I have 40 plus years installing commercial and residential, every type of pile you can probably name and some you have likely never heard of. A level loop as you are installing here should be row cut period. Sure you may hide the seam for now double-cutting but come back after it has gotten some traffic and vacuuming.Every loop that you cut will be frayed. (Always seal your seam) If you are going to do a direct glue down by yourself it helps to glue one side up to about 2 or 3 feet from the seam edge. ( I glue up to about 2 feet) that way when you glue out on the side you turned back half the width you can step over the other side if there are no doors to go through. Plus it makes it easier to work out any problems like bows etc. If you would take your glue and pull a border down and back up each side you could make all your trowel strokes cover un-glued floor rather than all the little mini stokes on glue already spread. You can take this as me trying to be sarcastic, (I am not) or you can take it as helpful tips from an installer that has NEVER in over 40 years gone back on a complaint on his own work. You have at your demand the www which I didn't have most of my career. Every product you will install has a manufacturers recommended procedure.. look for them and use them along with your own experience and have a complaint free business... Good luck..
Brother you wrote heck a lot of stuff but forget to mention about roller, don’t you roll your glue-down carpet either, 😂 You mentioned that you’ve been four decades in this business and haven’t had a single complaint, simply you are exaggerating if you are not lying!
If you do it right the first time you never have to go back! How in the world can you half-ass all of your work? , go back and replace half of it. And expect to make any money at all. ?
Listen, he did real good! You know as I do (being in the business for long time I'm guessing most of you have also "guessing") He got the job done, and with his own style (because for the fact' yea he cut free hand without straight edge says alot about his experience in doing this, he chose that, sure safety first but he looks well confided and knows what he's doing) no fricken messing around and no such thing as Only One Right Way to skin a cat. The end result was Satisfactory, nothing in short or at best you can do better yourself..because he did it.. Otherwise your just bashing for the sake of bashing..
Harry Digler. I wanna start by saying to futher explain myself, There's plenty of things he did I don't agree with "personally" but what I said was out if the fact that he did accomplish the job none the less, while others were bashing him harshly, yes he could of measured and cut the back of carpet with straight edge.. I've been doing quality work myself with carpets for homes, not so much commercial, though, I've done College campuses with berber working for Belfor (big company in disaster relief for many accounts, demo and re-installing them), the work he did didn't look half bad, as for your comment, it matters not to worry or judge my initial comment with another misdirection of opinions.. There just words..lol
I have installed this carpet a ton of times the best way to ensure a seam that does not Ravel is to run a row with a row finder then use a row cutter ..granted all carpets are not the same and there will be occasional flaws in the carpet due to manufacture and getting past quality control the only time I do serpentine seam is when the rows bow out or in to much..and when you do double cut dont lean your blade from one side to the other keep it directly parallel to avoid shearing the nap. Next you need to use a latex sealer or your general seam sealing adhesive (looks like honey) and you also need to seal both sides of these raw edges. Sealer is a MUST.
Some rugs you can't split a row (jumps, snags,rowfinder will not move )and some rows are snakey Row one side and trace cut with a cushion back row cutter If you can't row one side just straight edge with the pile direction and trace cut the other side (cushion back cutter) These carpets are getting so bad, that double cutting is becoming more tempting I am not there yet
All the bad comments make a video then what i learned in doing shit on your own is okay but we sometimes learned the best way from the masters but hey who say we going to be following the masters way of doing it for 20 years hell no there for you master the craft and do it to the level you comfortable at doing it like mom train you to piss sitting down but you got older and started pissing standing up ...............get the point people
In so many ways things could be done better. You should glue the floor 1st and then cut seam...helps prevent the carpet from moving on you! 2nd when glueing its best to glue straight lines on outside to help when folding carpet back. 3rd for god sake use some pliers on that seam, I'm sure there was some nap squished down and if lifted with pliers would make seam much better! 4th its always good to roll carpet afterward to prevent bubbles. 5th too much up and down, could have glued whole floor once and be done instead of multiple times glueing areas.
double cutting is ok but I wouldn't recommend without a straight edge and I would only do it if the rows were really tight with that super short nap any other kind of berber I would definitely row cut
The old double cut trick. You can only do this with commercial level loop carpet. Most of the time you have to separate a row with a dull flathead screwdriver and cut in between the rows with a seam cutter... you could row cut this carpet but its a big waste of time. The vid shows a glue-down install, if it were with padding underneath you'd need hot melt seaming tape and a seaming iron. It takes years to perfect this trade, good money but hard work. This looks easy but it's new construction & doesn't show him ripping out old glue-down, moving furniture around (taking apart beds etc.) or hauling the carpet in. It doesn't show him creasing the carpet and cutting it at the walls; I wanted to see how well he did; you have to crease it at the baseboards & freehand cut it flush - can't use a wall trimmer for a glue-down. I stopped using wall trimmers a long time ago for the most part.
Thanks for the video, very helpful to see it done vs just reading the how to. The liquid seem seeler is a great tip too, didnt know that stuff existed.
Mate next time glue it all down first then double cut it it would be so much easier and you only cut with the nap not against it you will get a perfect join on short loop pile any other pile need to cut from underneath or the back
I've been doing this over 15 years.. I have the same stretcher and knife. I'm doing comercial carpet this week in a church. I was checking it out to see if he did anything different.. and he did do a couple thing different than me... like he put a crease in the carpet when he folded it back to put the clue down.. you don't do that. and I used to use a trial to spread my glue but now I use a paint roller cause it works just as good and 10 times faster I cut my seems the exact same way though, done pretty good.. carpet was ugly though
You have successfully put the carpet on the ground. Everything else is wrong except that you DID seal the seams! So many of you have commented on how nice it looks or that you might change this or that. There is a "bible" out there that will tell you right from wrong. It is the CRI 104&105 (carpet and rug institute commercial and residential). If you ever are called on the carpet (pun intended) for a customer complaint the inspector will check to see if you have adhered to their specs. If not, you will eat the job!
I could still slightly see the seam. Through experience, I know that video doesn't show as bad as in person. You should seriously consider running the row method. It works every time with no hassle. You are a true glue slinger though haha.
I mean in 99% of carpet I run a row… but there are a few that I’ve ran into that you simply can’t, they have interlocking fibers or the rows are so bad as far as being straight if you are doing long seams you absolutely can’t do it… but yes 99% should be ran
Really like your videos. Thanks for taking the time to do them. I lay carpet on side. I have problem with doorway seams. Really crosscut seams. Maybe you could do a video on this. The different ways you can do crosscut seams. I know how to row run carpet. Anyways thanks for the awesome videos.
He needs a row cutter.. The white glue is the cheap stuff.. The honey color dries with no color.. I can see the seam on video, it's gotta be more noticeable in real life.. Start all over..
if this guy was working for me,the only thing i would let him do is spread the glue .possibly the worst seam cutting method i have ever seen.try a row finder and a cushion back cutter, and a 100 pound roller for starters.this video should be called " how not to seam a glue down carpet!!
I always double cut except I use a utility knife, the blade doesn’t flex. Also I put a slight wiggle to the seam, much harder to see than a straight seam
right! fist row run,so you split the rows so you don't cut across the rows and cause them to fray even if you seam seal! and he even used a kicker to line up his seam, an pushed away in other spots! so dont worry about bows and queues in the carpet. another thing use a flat roller!! that one will grab the rows in berber and level loop carpet! its for frieze and plush carpet! and you other hacks have been doing it WRONG!! sorry! the real carpet guy! Dave C. Floor Ya!
lacks info thru installation guide. installer up and down constantly pick up bucket spread glue fold carpet, back to glue, going in circles. certainly mentioning removal of seam sealer bottle lid was funny. common sense. again piss poor installation techniques.
I have 40 plus years installing commercial and residential, every type of pile you can probably name and some you have likely never heard of. A level loop as you are installing here should be row cut period. Sure you may hide the seam for now double-cutting but come back after it has gotten some traffic and vacuuming.Every loop that you cut will be frayed. (Always seal your seam)
If you are going to do a direct glue down by yourself it helps to glue one side up to about 2 or 3 feet from the seam edge. ( I glue up to about 2 feet) that way when you glue out on the side you turned back half the width you can step over the other side if there are no doors to go through. Plus it makes it easier to work out any problems like bows etc.
If you would take your glue and pull a border down and back up each side you could make all your trowel strokes cover un-glued floor rather than all the little mini stokes on glue already spread.
You can take this as me trying to be sarcastic, (I am not) or you can take it as helpful tips from an installer that has NEVER in over 40 years gone back on a complaint on his own work.
You have at your demand the www which I didn't have most of my career. Every product you will install has a manufacturers recommended procedure.. look for them and use them along with your own experience and have a complaint free business...
Good luck..
👏 u the best master
Stop the B.S.!! EVERY installer has had a complaint!! That's how you get better learn from your mistakes.
Brother you wrote heck a lot of stuff but forget to mention about roller, don’t you roll your glue-down carpet either, 😂
You mentioned that you’ve been four decades in this business and haven’t had a single complaint, simply you are exaggerating if you are not lying!
If you do it right the first time you never have to go back! How in the world can you half-ass all of your work? , go back and replace half of it. And expect to make any money at all. ?
Always wondered how perfect, invisible seams were created. Of course, it makes sense now! Overlap both carpets and cut! Thank you
Listen, he did real good! You know as I do (being in the business for long time I'm guessing most of you have also "guessing") He got the job done, and with his own style (because for the fact' yea he cut free hand without straight edge says alot about his experience in doing this, he chose that, sure safety first but he looks well confided and knows what he's doing) no fricken messing around and no such thing as Only One Right Way to skin a cat.
The end result was Satisfactory, nothing in short or at best you can do better yourself..because he did it..
Otherwise your just bashing for the sake of bashing..
Harry Digler. I wanna start by saying to futher explain myself, There's plenty of things he did I don't agree with "personally" but what I said was out if the fact that he did accomplish the job none the less, while others were bashing him harshly, yes he could of measured and cut the back of carpet with straight edge..
I've been doing quality work myself with carpets for homes, not so much commercial, though, I've done College campuses with berber working for Belfor (big company in disaster relief for many accounts, demo and re-installing them), the work he did didn't look half bad, as for your comment, it matters not to worry or judge my initial comment with another misdirection of opinions.. There just words..lol
Wave cut glued down seams with basic commercial carpet.. free hand and make the cut wavy.. double cut both carpets.
I have installed this carpet a ton of times the best way to ensure a seam that does not Ravel is to run a row with a row finder then use a row cutter ..granted all carpets are not the same and there will be occasional flaws in the carpet due to manufacture and getting past quality control the only time I do serpentine seam is when the rows bow out or in to much..and when you do double cut dont lean your blade from one side to the other keep it directly parallel to avoid shearing the nap. Next you need to use a latex sealer or your general seam sealing adhesive (looks like honey) and you also need to seal both sides of these raw edges. Sealer is a MUST.
I’ve got to join 2 cheap foam backed rugs together. Would latex seam sealer bond the 2 sections together?
that method of overlap triming. works great with glue downs but if there is space to do so it's also easier to use a pen and a loop pile cutter
Is there a subsitute for seam sealant? Dont have it here in chile
شكرا لك ما هذه الماده التى وضعتها فى لحا م السجاد
How comes when I glue out its all up the skirting and dripping off the trowel .an I've been fitting for forty years!!!!
Some rugs you can't split a row (jumps, snags,rowfinder
will not move )and some rows are snakey
Row one side and trace cut with a cushion back row cutter
If you can't row one side just straight edge with the pile direction and trace cut the other side (cushion back cutter)
These carpets are getting so bad, that double cutting is becoming more tempting
I am not there yet
All the bad comments make a video then what i learned in doing shit on your own is okay but we sometimes learned the best way from the masters but hey who say we going to be following the masters way of doing it for 20 years hell no there for you master the craft and do it to the level you comfortable at doing it like mom train you to piss sitting down but you got older and started pissing standing up ...............get the point people
In so many ways things could be done better. You should glue the floor 1st and then cut seam...helps prevent the carpet from moving on you! 2nd when glueing its best to glue straight lines on outside to help when folding carpet back. 3rd for god sake use some pliers on that seam, I'm sure there was some nap squished down and if lifted with pliers would make seam much better! 4th its always good to roll carpet afterward to prevent bubbles. 5th too much up and down, could have glued whole floor once and be done instead of multiple times glueing areas.
Do you have a video? To demonstrate? I'd LOVE to watch it!
Glad to see I'm not the only one that uses more then one kind of glue on one single job. Lol
What was it we called when u left a spot without glue, a holiday?
if everyone who comments already knows methods so much better than why in the hell are you watching a how to video?
twitdaddy that's what I was thinking lmfao....fucking trolls
To hopefully keep people from butchering their carpet installs
What's the white bottle for?
This is clearly how you do not cut carpet that’s going to be seemed.
This is exactly how you seam level loop commercial carpet.
double cutting is ok but I wouldn't recommend without a straight edge and I would only do it if the rows were really tight with that super short nap any other kind of berber I would definitely row cut
The old double cut trick. You can only do this with commercial level loop carpet. Most of the time you have to separate a row with a dull flathead screwdriver and cut in between the rows with a seam cutter... you could row cut this carpet but its a big waste of time. The vid shows a glue-down install, if it were with padding underneath you'd need hot melt seaming tape and a seaming iron. It takes years to perfect this trade, good money but hard work. This looks easy but it's new construction & doesn't show him ripping out old glue-down, moving furniture around (taking apart beds etc.) or hauling the carpet in.
It doesn't show him creasing the carpet and cutting it at the walls; I wanted to see how well he did; you have to crease it at the baseboards & freehand cut it flush - can't use a wall trimmer for a glue-down. I stopped using wall trimmers a long time ago for the most part.
Thanks for the video, very helpful to see it done vs just reading the how to. The liquid seem seeler is a great tip too, didnt know that stuff existed.
Mate next time glue it all down first then double cut it it would be so much easier and you only cut with the nap not against it you will get a perfect join on short loop pile
any other pile need to cut from underneath or the back
Hack you never cut thru loop carpet if you can help it. Use a row cutter and seam locc
I've been doing this over 15 years.. I have the same stretcher and knife. I'm doing comercial carpet this week in a church. I was checking it out to see if he did anything different.. and he did do a couple thing different than me... like he put a crease in the carpet when he folded it back to put the clue down.. you don't do that. and I used to use a trial to spread my glue but now I use a paint roller cause it works just as good and 10 times faster I cut my seems the exact same way though, done pretty good.. carpet was ugly though
I use a paint roller when I'm doing carpet tile.....ways faster and less messy
@@montbrink4700 yeah it is.. I learned that about about 3 years ago
You should do what the professionals do and get a crystal cutter you will have that seam double cut within two seconds!
Love the Name Show Me The Floor..Mike Tyson would show you the floor lol Anyway, your a pro...just like my Mrs....
nice trowel work!
You have successfully put the carpet on the ground. Everything else is wrong except that you DID seal the seams! So many of you have commented on how nice it looks or that you might change this or that. There is a "bible" out there that will tell you right from wrong. It is the CRI 104&105 (carpet and rug institute commercial and residential). If you ever are called on the carpet (pun intended) for a customer complaint the inspector will check to see if you have adhered to their specs. If not, you will eat the job!
I could still slightly see the seam. Through experience, I know that video doesn't show as bad as in person. You should seriously consider running the row method. It works every time with no hassle. You are a true glue slinger though haha.
Can you explain running the row method plz
I mean in 99% of carpet I run a row… but there are a few that I’ve ran into that you simply can’t, they have interlocking fibers or the rows are so bad as far as being straight if you are doing long seams you absolutely can’t do it… but yes 99% should be ran
Ur from ct...? I see your pro source shirt
Really like your videos. Thanks for taking the time to do them. I lay carpet on side. I have problem with doorway seams. Really crosscut seams. Maybe you could do a video on this. The different ways you can do crosscut seams. I know how to row run carpet. Anyways thanks for the awesome videos.
Thanks for the video!
He needs a row cutter.. The white glue is the cheap stuff.. The honey color dries with no color.. I can see the seam on video, it's gotta be more noticeable in real life.. Start all over..
Good seam,a double cut always goes back together,the seam sealer keeps it from fraying. no nap,no gap & no overlap.
you can see the seam from air plain......
Pull a row than use cushion back row runner and follow it
No.a commercial u cut from the top i can follow a row in the yarns
if this guy was working for me,the only thing i would let him do is spread the glue .possibly the worst seam cutting method i have ever seen.try a row finder and a cushion back cutter, and a 100 pound roller for starters.this video should be called " how not to seam a glue down carpet!!
Nice job brother!
row cutter, definitely.
there's a few things done wrong here. but hey its down. and he must be from south Florida with that prosource shirt on
Someone wrote the “bible” weirdo. I could get along with this guy.
After 30 years of experience installing, this is definitely NOT how to cut carpet for making an invisible seam.
gbuddy funny thing is the seam was and still is invisible!
that's ease carpet come to my world I show u how to do bussines carpet I did those schools when I start bussines
Stop talking shit you garbage ass helper!! Lol
Anyone who uses the word “invisible” when talking about a seam either ain’t an installer or they think way too much of themselves
u good on a glue run I give u 100
a day
I thought he said seem glue.
Who needs a show roller?
I always double cut except I use a utility knife, the blade doesn’t flex. Also I put a slight wiggle to the seam, much harder to see than a straight seam
use box tractor
I guess everyone here is a "professional " carpet layer..
this is the worst way to do a seam for a glue down you ever hear of a row runner?
That's not how we do it you're supposed to straight edge those ends
newbbb all his tools are from home depot haha
lol your funny
Better than dollar tree!
good good helper come work for me I give u start 175
i serpentine all my seams in Glue Down Carpet it hides the seams much better than a straight double cut
Thanks for a useful, succinct video performed by a talented carpet technician.
right! fist row run,so you split the rows so you don't cut across the rows and cause them to fray even if you seam seal! and he even used a kicker to line up his seam, an pushed away in other spots! so dont worry about bows and queues in the carpet. another thing use a flat roller!! that one will grab the rows in berber and level loop carpet! its for frieze and plush carpet! and you other hacks have been doing it WRONG!! sorry! the real carpet guy! Dave C. Floor Ya!
Id hire him in a second
I couldn't agree more,this guy is a butcher
yah .this is so wrong.i quit carpet years ago to specialize in commercial resiliant.i cant stand this.
lacks info thru installation guide. installer up and down constantly pick up bucket spread glue fold carpet, back to glue, going in circles. certainly mentioning removal of seam sealer bottle lid was funny. common sense. again piss poor installation techniques.