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The reasons for traditional ebonite feeds are numerous.
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- Опубликовано: 28 апр 2022
- This film is an attempt to convey why ebonite feeds have greater range and utility with a wider variety and scope of inks than plastic materials - particularly untreated plastic. It is also an attempt at finally enabling the camera to show ink as it flows through flex nibs and ebonite feeds in 4K to the extent focus permits with unusual light sourcing. Additional mention is made regarding the state of the art in plastic feed technology (hint: it is older than you think) and other feeds such as capillary flow through classic brush and felt to ink-ball systems.
Thanks for the great video, Nathan. I don't know why Noodler's gets so much hate online; it is completely undeserved. I try to defend when I can, but haters can't be reasoned with. You do amazing work, both with your inks and your pens. Thanks for sharing your talent with all of us. Keep up the great work!
@@aadityakiran_s I think the answer to most Noodler’s inks (crazier concept inks like Whaleman’s Sepia withstanding) is to realize that Nathan’s ideas on giving his customers as much product as possible for the money means that most of his inks are more saturated than they need to be, enabling the user to dilute with distilled water and stretch the amount of product even further than what’s in the bottle.
@@aadityakiran_s Black is good, but I've used Heart of Darkness and Zhivago on everything. Those are both great for writing in the fine and medium nibs.
I agree with you about the pens quality control. I have a few Ahabs and they all required effort before I liked what I had. They are fun, now, but they weren't easy to figure out when I was just starting with fountain pens.
@@aadityakiran_sYou don’t know nearly as much as you think you do.
I like a nice visual demonstration
Thank you so much for your kindness in sharing your extensive knowledge and experience with those of us who love fountain pens. When I see you have published a new video, I immediately watch it before watching any others. I have many of your pens and inks and I love them all (and I plan to buy more). Thanks so much for all you do!
Thanks for the info, sir.
It's baffling to me that there is general agreement about the superiority of ebonite for feeds, yet so few pen manufacturers provide them, not even for high-end models. Not even when the body of the pen is made of ebonite!
Not at all boring! I love your videos. Thank you for sharing your pen wisdom.
All I can say is, "Haters gonna hate!", Mr. Nathan. People want the *illusion* of choice, not the actual potential application of it you offer at a phenomenal price point. I can only imagine how tired you get of folks constantly saying stuff like, "Well, this $25 pen designed from the ground up to be disassembled and adjusted by my own hand to match nearly any potential use at the most reasonable price point possible doesn't write like my $500+ 14kt+ gold-nibbed hand-polished by an in-house nib technician Japanese/German job where the warranty is voided if I cough too hard with 3 feet of it let alone make it write the way I want it to".
You don't say? Imagine that!
Wow...based on your example, you must have neither pen.
A $500 pen comes with a warranty that is easily used if there should be a problem. Given that you didn't get taken by an Ebay grifter, you'd have that option available and know it.
A $25 Noodlers Ahab is a beginners pen. Rough cut in every way and requiring constant tinkering to function daily as other pens do without so much effort.
And they stink.
@@Detman101 As a person that voided their warranty on their Pilot Custom 823 by merely disassembling it, let alone modifying it in any way, I beg to differ. Also, my Ahab has been tip-top straight out the box just like my new Konrad.
@@psychophipps Ditto. My Ahab and Konrad worked wonderfully right out of the box and my Triple Tail is a delight to use. One of the many things I like and respect about Nathan's pens is that most of them allow you to see all the internal parts and, if your little heart desires, you *can* tinker with them. That, alone, significantly increased and improved my knowledge, confidence _and enjoyment_ with using my more expensive pens.
FYI: My more expensive pens include a Pelikan M800, Sailor 1911 L, Pilot Custom 823. Not bragging; simply showing that I'm not comparing Nathan's pens' performance with cheap knockoffs.
@@Detman101You obviously don’t own a Noodler’s pen. They don’t necessarily require tinkering. But they are made so you can easily tinker with them. They are not “beginners pens”. Because you stated they need to be “constantly tinkered with”. What beginner starts out working on their pens? Beginners buy Kakuno or Metripolitans. LOL!! Your logic is so flawed in so many ways. I suspect you’re here because you were directed by your masters to hate on Noodler’s over the past load of hyper sensitive snowflakes piling on. Go away little fellow and take your garbage opinions with you. Go play with your Kakuno’s and Jinhao Shark pens.
Thanks, Nathan - I always look forward to your informative and entertaining videos. This one was educational and appreciated!
Thanks. It was a MELE (meaningful enjoyable learning experience). Having pens and inks that work well on everyday papers and with assorted nibs makes this hobby fun and utilitarian ….. not to mention permanent.
Nathan is a treasure, there is not another one like him.
Macro Microbe - "MELE" - I like that and it truly applies to Nathan's videos.
Always a delight when you post, educational and fun as well. i do wish you would someday give the explanation, or story, of all the titles you use; I know that your knowledge of history and your talent for explaining things, would make the understanding of the titles accessible for all of us. Keep up the great work and thanks for all you do.
I have a second lamp on my desk with a blacklight bulb _specifically_ for using Blue Ghost & Whiteness of the Whale. I recently upgraded from my old, standard/basic (395nm) black light bulb to a 365nm one - it was a noticeable step up in price, but totally worth it! Basic BL bulbs emit semi-visible, near-UV light waves, which casts a sort of blue-ish / purple-ish glow. The 365nm bulb emits a truer “black light” - so there isn’t a visible glow, and fluorescent, reactive objects glow even more vibrantly. Def recommend for use with yr Ghostie buddy! D:
Thank you… I’ve been hand balling UV torches the ones you look for Pee in the hotel bedroom 😊 anyway I’m going to get a UV light as you described , you’ve saved me from making a mess of the choice…👌👍✅💙
Thanks for providing this info, Steven. I've been sourcing bulbs (for the ink). It's serendipitous that your post saved me from buying a less-than-optimal bulb. Will get a 365nm.
I'm really happy to see you back. As a jewish woman I was glad to see your sincere apology and actions since which were above and beyond. Anyway, I have always been a fan of your products and these RUclips videos.
Keep these videos coming they are a great education. They have provided me a source of information of how fountain pens work of all ages and has helped me to modified to my liking. Also your inks of amazing properties and value.
WE LOVE NATHAN! WE LOVE NOODLERS!
Thank you, Nathan. Fascinating. I am going to save this for future reference.
That’s a powerful illustration of the described effects of ebonite!
NATHAN- please do not go 'woke', I have been a follower an fan of yours for years and own dozens of bottles of your great inks. Don't let THAT pen company intimidate you; I have cut all connections to them and will use other, better companies for my pen needs. Stay strong, Nathan! You are the best!
Yep, I no longer consider Goulet for any purchases and, I hate to say this, but I also won't be purchasing any Noodler's inks or products until they're no longer represented by Luxury Brands (the ones that gave into wokeness) and some of their original color names are reinstated, specifically Censor Red. Seriously... the irony of *_Censor Red_* being censored. And colors like Tiananmen and Park Red? It's pretty clear who the woke fascists are pandering to.
Nathan, I know this was a business decision led by the company you trusted to represent and distribute your products to the world. I respect you and your opinions greatly, even if I don't agree with all of them. What I don't respect is bowing to wokeness. The people that were offended have vowed to never buy your products again anyway, and now you've lost people that did agree with you. Look at brands like Goya that held their ground, now compare that to companies that have gone woke. I understand that the fountain pen community, unfortunately, seems to be a bunch of liberal hipsters. I think you best move would have been (and perhaps could still be) to stand your ground on ink names and bottle designs, then to invest in some advertising on conservative and Libertarian youtube channels and social media. I have a feeling that the majority of viewers on those channels would jump on the politically charged designs and the ties to the way the Founding Fathers did their writing.
Amen!! I love my Bernanke ink with the horns on one who is deserving of them. No relation to religion but in deed. End the fed!
@@ParadigmUnkn0wn to late
Great info here thanks. I love how adjustable these pens are as an artist.
Hello Nathan,
this jewish man here would like to have you back!
I wish you all the best!
And Neil Gaiman loves you too!
Nathan, you are the man & your inks are the bomb..NEVER STOP !
I learned some of this the hard way! I have an affordable German pen that had issues with Noodler's Air Corps. My new Konrad wrote with it beautifully right out of the box (after I easily flushed it with some soapy water). Then I tried another brand of ink in the Konrad. It was a bit wet, so I wiggled the nib and feed around for a few minutes, and now the pen writes beautifully with that ink as well. Imagine that! 😂
Thanks for all the great videos explaining why these things work the way they do. You've got me hooked! No more literal trash pens for me (disposables/refills that are basically a pen in another pen).
i got things in my mind to worry about, im guessing as anyone else. But when i watch the mechanics of this beautiful tool it makes me smile and feel creative. Thank you, Nathan. You have a consistent viewer from Greece.
Thanks for the video. I’m a bit impatient by nature, so I scroll some back and forth and watch several times instead of following the video from start to finish.
To me, the Noodler’s clip is near perfect!
On my resin Konrads I had to glue back the finials to make them stay after reassembling the clip. That’s fine, because I never had to redo it.
Excellent as always. Thank you.
How could anyone hate a pen that's easy to disassemble for cleaning and adjustment? That's my favourite thing about Noodler's! Your pens are fantastic!
I noticed the clip on one of my Charlie pens was a bit loose and even I was able to figure out just taking off the clip and tightening it with a slight bend.
All the hate you get is quite undeserved, especially because your an all American company with quality products made in America! That's how it should be! As long as you are making pens and ink I'll be wanting to get my hands on them.
I thought the pens were made in India? Honestly, the pens work and are great for their price, but I can't stand them. The inks on the other hand... I'm not sure how I'm gonna live without now. I refuse to support any company that goes woke. I gave up Coke, then Netflix, and now Noodler's. On the other hand, I somehow wound up with an overpriced pillow filled with scrap foam cutoffs and a shelf full of Goya products.
@@ParadigmUnkn0wn Please pm how noodler's went Woke. I am out of context.
always appreciate your uploads, Nathan. I was actually using Blue Ghost in a Charlie pen earlier for a practical application and it was awesome.
Thanks for another great video Nathan! I thoroughly enjoy your in-depth multi-angled explanations. Noodler's are my favorite pens and favorite inks. And people who give disparaging comments are actually speaking of themselves...our reactions are just a mirror of our own lives.
Keep Calm
And
Ink On!
Hope you come back. Merry Christmas to you and yours from Texas
HEY! Mr. Noodler guy! First off I just want to say I LOVE your inks! I love ALL of them, like for real... im your biggest fan here, I collect all of them, no one else loves them more than I do 😅.... Secondly... There are some Ahabs that have a particular look to them that I want to buy for my collection but they are all sold out or the business I buy them from dont carry. Is there anyway to purchase them directly from you? Also please dont ever change your design style on your ink bottles, they are so cool and are such cool display pieces to have laying out. Also please dont change up the philosophy of the Ahab because honestly I really love tinkering with them and I even mix/match and change out the caps with others one to make them look even cooler. Please keep going and creating! Would LOVE to see you add acrylics or other cool designs to your brush pen! Those would be soo cool to collect too!
Thanks for the video. Recently I've had a chinese lamy-style plastic feed just break on me while removing the nib so brittle the plastic was!
The same thing happened to my Noodlers Ahab when it arrived from Goldspot Pens.
Tried to remove the nib and feed to adjust the ink flow and the feed fins crumbled. Chunks of the feed missing. The pen never wrote properly for months.
So after months of frustration I ordered a replacement feed and it was too small for the Ahab...wtf!?
Buried the whole box of ramshackle junk in the backyard...stinky broken trash.
Thankfully I only spent $5 with the coupon I received on the junk.
@@Detman101 That never happened to my Ahab and the feed feels pretty tough every time i try to adjust it, so I really don't know what to say... About the replacement feed, some other noodlers pens use smaller feeds, didn't you get one of those by accident?
Epic video! It was interesting to see the works of the air/ink interchange.
In regard to the superiority of ebonite feeds, they have much wetter flow than plastic feeds and can be customized easily. But, from my experience, the sophisticated Asian nibs are better at controlling ink burps. For this reason, I find pens such as the Majohn Q1 to be good for everyday carry. Although the Q1 is a nice EDC pen, nothing beats my Konrad at calligraphy and art. Honestly, after digging deeper channels into the feed, it's impossible to get that pen to skip.
Thanks, Mister Tardiff, for the video. I think a video about the benefits of complicated plastic feeds would be cool, btw.
I agree. There has not been one plastic feed that I haven't been able to increase the ink flow on. When done correctly, plastic feeds outperform ebonite due to their durability and low cost of replacement if you DO mess them up.
I can buy 12 JOWO #6 feed/housing units for the price of one ebonite feed/housing unit. For that level of cost savings, it was in my best interest to learn how to mod plastic feed/housing units that don't stop working after changing the nib twice (Unlike weak ebonite feed/housing units).
@@Detman101 how do you modify your plastic feeds?
I've been using a carving tool to cut the ink-channel deeper, which works ok, but it's a little inconsistent.
Heat setting doesn't seem to work as well, the plastic seems to go back to its original shape eventually.
@@forgotMyUsername100 This sounds like something DoodleBud would know. They are very knowledgeable with fountain pens. Maybe they will know. You can find them on RUclips.
@@forgotMyUsername100 Heat setting doesn’t work on plastic feeds.
@@Detman101Did you get your Jinhao Shark pens working better? Are you still licking windows? Ebonite feeds are superior to plastic feeds you dunce. That’s why many expensive pen makers use them. Plastic feeds are used for mass production.
Hi! So um… the Commonwealth Pen Show. I don’t see you on the list. Are you actually not coming, or is this a mistake? Now I’m not sure if I want to go, meeting you was the highlight of my last visit.
I've long held that ebonite is superior because it allows you to do the quality control yourself with no need to send the pen in
Fascinating. Well worth repeat viewing. Thank you Nathan.
Awesome demonstrations with Blue Ghost in the feeds, Nathan. Fantastic idea. It's cool to see you add a custom thumbnail graphic to this video.
This is THE best demonstration I’ve ever seen as it relates to the flow differences between ebonite and plastic. There’s no doubt that ebonite is superior in every way! Thanks Nathan🙏
I am a fan of your work. Love the inks, names and the pens. You, Sir are the Willy Wonka of fountain pen ink.
Hands down the most informative videos out there. Always happy to see a new one go up. Thank you sir.
Just got your Baystate Blue it's my first ink.
Starting out in fountain pens and plan on getting more.
Loving thus far the Charlie Pen and ink keeps up with my writing speed better than my Platinum Preppy, can't write faster than it can write and I can out pace rollerball and ballpoints at full speed.
Hi Nathan, I'm very much opposed to your political beliefs but I love and buy your inks and I love the way you express your ideas in them. Please don't go PC on us.
I'm a big fan of your pen design philosophy.
I have had success cutting a plastic feed's ink-channel deeper/wider for more flow with flex nibs, but ebonite is easier to work with.
Always engaging and stimulating, Nathan. Thank you, sir.
Thank you Nathan. I would love to sit and listen to you speak on your knowledge of history. I fantasized about new a channel on this god forsaken youtube today. The only ink I buy is yours as I am an advocate of our dear lady Liberty. A resident in MA too. The only reason I am still here is family. Need a new color matters not what but I see the American Constitution on the label. My Brother all my best you have peaked my interest in seeking out the Quakers. Liberty or Death you friend in philosophy and life, Jonathan
Can’t edit my grammatical error for some reason my browser or youtube won’t allow it a glitch in the matrix I suppose.
What I would give to sit down and smoke a cigar with this man
Wow, thanks for showing this
Always appreciate the depth of the information you provide! Thanks Nathan
Thank you, Nathan. You are educational and enjoyable, always.
My breather tube went down the drain the other day. What size was it? The Tripletail writes fine without it, but I want to replace the tube.
You’re a hero, Mr. Tardif!
What a Brilliant Video!
Great video! I learned a lot, thank you for posting this.
Regarding the lady that posted about the clip tightness, I think the most likely scenario is that she wasn't DIY-savvy and didn't inherently try to take the clip off for adjustment like you or I may have done. I sincerely don't think it's just to "bash Noodler's" though that may have been a tongue-in-check estimation on your part 😂
Most people, especially fountain pen users, are too afraid to try to fix something themselves.
I hope you put out a new video this quarter.
Thank you for this video, i always wondered why ebonite instead of say gold or what ever price suitable material.
Love U, sorry, but I really appreciate what you do
Something i don't understand. You could just mold a cartridge converter plastic nipple and jam it in the same housing as an ebonite feed to have the best of both worlds. Cartridge compatibility and ebonite ink flow.
Perhaps an odd place to ask this but I found myself infatuated by the pens you produce and began collecting them, currently owning a Nib Creaper, Ahab, Konrad Jersey devil (My favorite pen to date), and a Konrad Rollerball. I began looking into the somewhat pricier Neponset but noticed that in spite of the listing on your website of both Ebonite and Acrylic models that I can find very few in stock online (namely the ones I really wanted like Marbled Marianna).
When I asked a friend they suspected the Neponset was discontinued and replaced with the triple tail. Is this true?
And if it is are there any plans to release the triple tail in more than just clear in the future, as I'm not really a fan of clear pens and if I was going to buy a pricier pen I'd rather wait for one available that I want to look at for years to come?
Where did you get a clear plastic spoon feed I want one
More videos please :)
Nathan, will you think of making more x-feather colors available? I was watching an old video of yours and realized you had demo'd several x-feather inks including green at a pen show; i'd love if x-feather green was widely available.
The problem with ebonite feeds is that you can’t have as many intricate fins to deal with ink overflow after extended writing. Every Indian pen i have used starts burping after 10 minutes of writing. This might not be the case with ultra high end feeds like the namiki emperor.
I think that the emperor feed is urushi coated plastic. Aurora makes ebonite feeds with nice fins.
That "Triple-tail" nib is impressive!!
It’s got an ebonite feed and it “requires constant tinkering”. It’s not for you.
I am not sure about the labor differences in the manufacturing of ebonite versus plastic feeds. Would you care to comment? It seems like the plastic feeds are easier to manufacture in an automated (injection molding) fashion. I understand ebonite feeds are only manufactured in India, due to labor requirements. Is this accurate ?
And plastic feeds are more reliable overall.
This is the reason why they are the standard.
The most inexpensive/available ebonite feeds are all from India (AFAIK), but Pilot, ASC, and several Italian companies make ebonite feeds for their pricier pens.
@@Detman101They are standard because they can be quickly injected molded by the box load and idiots like you will pay for them.
Absolutely outstanding!
a lot
Thinking of you, Nathan! Stay strong. I do not support all of this wokeism and almost willful misunderstanding of your products. It sucks! I’m sorry you’re being forced to rename most of your products. I will continue to be a loyal Noodler’s customer. And I will no longer be a Goulet customer. Done with them and their greedy ways. Much love and support to you, Nathan! 👊
Same. I am glad I picked up a bottle of both of the Goulet exclusive Noodler's inks (Nakihama Whaleman Sepia and Liberty's Elysium) especially noe that they probably won't be made anymore, but I doubt I'll buy from them again as long as this keeps up.
Yes, GOULET is now part of the cancel culture, and I will never again spend a penny with them.
Wait, I’m out of the loop. What did the Goulets do to make him change ink names? They’ve always been pretty supportive of his orneriness in the past.
They lost my business too. Done with those against the 1st Amendment.
“It invalidates your warranty if you so much as look at this pen cross-eyed.” 😂
Bravo
Amen on clips and their impact on shits and jackets
Sir you have done many demonstrations about how your inks are forgery resistant. But what about a demonstration of their archival ability? I do not doubt it but I would like to know how you test for it other than just time. I love your polar green but would like to know if the colour would be consistent on the page even after 100+ years in the future. Why? because that is the only way I can think to express myself that far down the line.
It's a bit hard to demonstrate something's ability to hold up over time without time passing. But generally, archival materials are declared such because of their chemistry. Being pH neutral, stable under UV exposure, and resistant to degradation by ambient humidity. Properties which are rather hard to display in an engaging way. Showing the pH on a test meter is dull. Shining UV light on a page that doesn't change at all, also dull. Showing a page at 20-60% humidity sitting there, unchanging.... boring, right?
Maestro… a great video and demonstration,,, I don’t know of anyone who goes to this extent to show … how it works.
When I got back into using pens and ink about 2013 it was great to find Noodlers products and how you could take them to bits. Ebonite, what a great material for pens especially the feed but I couldn’t understand why you had to to buy a pen costing s t u p I d money from the big name pen makers to get them to deign to put an ebonite feed in ? Yet I can get a great pen in the UK costing £20 - £40 quid that i can take apart and fix it the way I want and put other nibs in if I wanted 💎
Will you consider re doing the video “The Magic of Ebonite“ where you do the ink channel then the air channel … with knives and a dremmel ,,, you posted it about 11years ago but the lighting was a bit too dark to follow 100%… it would be great if you would review it please 🙏… you only had a couple of table lights not the setup you’ve got now.
AS for the detractors and the whining whimpering bastards who float in an unflushed toilet with their mates… there’s a lovely island where they all should go , it’s called Phuket, or is it Phukum. ? Not sure.
Thanks for this video Nathan … it’s always nice to hear from you. 👌👍✅💯x💯
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Hi Nathan, Another interesting video. I hope you are wearing UV blocking sun glasses when you are making these videos. To much UV will damage your eyes. Take care, Dave
The amount of UV from a small lamp like that pales in comparison to natural sunlight. On the high end we're talking maybe 3 watts.
About a year ago I had an ebonite feed and housing that used to perform greatly and regulated ink properly. After a year of use and changing nibs and reinserting the unit into my pen...it no longer regulates ink the way it once did. I'm guessing that's due to the end of the ebonite feed rubbing away through all the flex nib changes and being reinserted into the ebonite housing. Now it just blobs ink all over the place and is pretty much unusable in any pen.
6 months since that experience, I've gone back to using the standard plastic JOWO feed/housings in my flex pens and haven't had this particular problem any longer. I've tried soaking the ebonite feed/housing in ink to get it to soak up fluid and plump up...no resolve, still dribbles. At this point it seems like the only solution would be adding material back to the end of the feed that seals the housing and is exposed to the ink reservoir. I've tried wax in the past and may give it a shot with this feed/housing as well...but I dont' expect much. I refuse to replace it, that would be $40 to start this cycle of stupidity all over again.
In my opinion, Ebonite is only superior if you do not modify your pens. Ebonite is far too lacking in durability for the everyday tinkerer/modder. Plastic is superior in every way.
Hello.. have you tried gently warming up the ebonite housing because it has a memory also you can see Nathan’s demonstration of the ebonite qualities in the video list… it’s one of the earlier posts.
If you weren’t a fool, you would know how to fix it. But you like plastic feeds….. so keep doing stupid things. Next time try being smarter than the object you’re operating.
Maybe I’ve been living under a rock, but what’s going on with Noodler? Something about being woke?
They got to him. He changed A BUNCH of the inks names. Look up Censor Red and ANYTHING with an Indian name.
I get that he had to choose his business security over his ideals, but even if I didn't agree with everything Nathan does, but I like that he held his ideals. Also I miss some of his ink bottle designs. And things like Navajo turquoise or apache sunset.. is it offensive to use native American localities in ink names? I wouldn't say so.
@@mikafoxx2717No it’s not offensive. I’m a member of the Chickasaw Nation and I would have considered it an honor for my tribes name to grace the bottles of Noodler’s ink. By having our tribal names on things it’s keeping people aware of the fact that we as tribal citizens and tribal nations are still here.
Do you think your first employer would still be smiling? Maybe it’s time to bring back Suffragist Carmine since you couldn’t rely on states to respect the rights of their citizens. You’re a rights guy... right? Or are you a “state’s rights” guy?