The theory to this method is quite flawed. The harmonics at the 5th and 7th frets shouldn't match, they're close but not quite there. Once you reach the high E string the compound error is significant enough to sound off tune. The guitar is tuned in 12 equal divisions of the octave which is a different tuning system to the notes of the harmonic series. Each note on the guitar should be a tiny bit sharp (one 12th of a Pythagorean coma). It's the reason 5ths sound reassuring and our minor 3rds suck however it also allows us to modulate keys. A guitar properly tuned to the harmonic series (just intonation) would need different fret positions for each key. It's unfortunate this method continues to be taught I have friends that still use it and can't tell that they are out of tune as it eventually conditions your ear to think the error is correct.
Use a tuner or the frets if the guitar is good ! Harmonics should not match ! Some idiot taught me this method and it took me 20 years to work out why the little e was wrong when I got there , I thought my guitar was bad , it’s not , it’s a Japanese strat, and when I discovered about Pythagorean comma it was an EPIPHANY ! The maths behind it is pretty deep , just IGNORE this video please ! Only good for absolute beginners
Only the octaves (fret 12 and 5) are perfect. The frets approximate 12TET, so tuning the B in just intonated Major 3rd to G could clash with some chord voicings. I like to tune by 4th from E to G, tune by fret between G and B, and then tune by 4th for the last B to E. The harmonic major 3rd is about 14 cents flat from 12TET major 3rd, which is enough for some people to notice in the wrong contexts. Fo context, the perfect 5th and perfect 4th is only 3 cents difference, which is unnoticeable to even a trained ear.
That would be a perfect 5th interval. Standard tuning is a perfect 4th except the G to B strings, which is a major 3rd. Tuning by 5th would result in E-B-F#-C#-D#-A#, starting al low E. This would be confusing at best, and possibly break your High B and E strings.
This is wrong! You’ll get an out of tune guitar!😰🥺 Why? The open A string when perfectly in tune will vibrate at 110Hz. The 5th fret natural harmonic vibrates at 440Hz. This is universally accepted concert pitch.👆Check with a tuning fork! The 7th fret harmonic for the A string vibrates at 330Hz. The low E string (Wiki) vibrates at 82.41Hz. It’s 5th fret harmonic will vibrate at 4x82.41= 329.64Hz! [2 octaves higher]. Not at 330 Hz! Appreciate the difference in frequencies by the slight out of tune “beating”. Doing it like this across all the strings will compound the errors and hence the guitar will not be in tune with itself! 😰🥺CHECK THIS OUT seriously! Only 12th fret harmonics should be used. They’ll work with fretted notes. Understand the Physics properly!👆
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This is cool! Can you explain the theory behind this tuning technique?
The theory to this method is quite flawed. The harmonics at the 5th and 7th frets shouldn't match, they're close but not quite there. Once you reach the high E string the compound error is significant enough to sound off tune. The guitar is tuned in 12 equal divisions of the octave which is a different tuning system to the notes of the harmonic series. Each note on the guitar should be a tiny bit sharp (one 12th of a Pythagorean coma). It's the reason 5ths sound reassuring and our minor 3rds suck however it also allows us to modulate keys. A guitar properly tuned to the harmonic series (just intonation) would need different fret positions for each key. It's unfortunate this method continues to be taught I have friends that still use it and can't tell that they are out of tune as it eventually conditions your ear to think the error is correct.
@@alex84950 so what would method would you propose to avoid wrong conditioning?
Use a tuner or the frets if the guitar is good ! Harmonics should not match ! Some idiot taught me this method and it took me 20 years to work out why the little e was wrong when I got there , I thought my guitar was bad , it’s not , it’s a Japanese strat, and when I discovered about Pythagorean comma it was an EPIPHANY ! The maths behind it is pretty deep , just IGNORE this video please ! Only good for absolute beginners
LOL it's not even good for beginners.@@pauljames9934
LOL, "Pythagorean coma". I've been in a few of those.@@alex84950
You can do the 457 method on strings 3 2 1 it's the same note sry not trying to be any kind of way just what I use 😉
Only the octaves (fret 12 and 5) are perfect. The frets approximate 12TET, so tuning the B in just intonated Major 3rd to G could clash with some chord voicings. I like to tune by 4th from E to G, tune by fret between G and B, and then tune by 4th for the last B to E.
The harmonic major 3rd is about 14 cents flat from 12TET major 3rd, which is enough for some people to notice in the wrong contexts. Fo context, the perfect 5th and perfect 4th is only 3 cents difference, which is unnoticeable to even a trained ear.
Thank you!!!!
Is it possible to do this with the 7th and 12th fret ?
That would be a perfect 5th interval. Standard tuning is a perfect 4th except the G to B strings, which is a major 3rd.
Tuning by 5th would result in E-B-F#-C#-D#-A#, starting al low E. This would be confusing at best, and possibly break your High B and E strings.
Very good lesson, but how do i tune the E string? (6th string)
E tuning fork or piano
Neat 🙂
This is wrong! You’ll get an out of tune guitar!😰🥺 Why? The open A string when perfectly in tune will vibrate at 110Hz. The 5th fret natural harmonic vibrates at 440Hz. This is universally accepted concert pitch.👆Check with a tuning fork! The 7th fret harmonic for the A string vibrates at 330Hz. The low E string (Wiki) vibrates at 82.41Hz. It’s 5th fret harmonic will vibrate at 4x82.41= 329.64Hz! [2 octaves higher]. Not at 330 Hz! Appreciate the difference in frequencies by the slight out of tune “beating”.
Doing it like this across all the strings will compound the errors and hence the guitar will not be in tune with itself! 😰🥺CHECK THIS OUT seriously! Only 12th fret harmonics should be used. They’ll work with fretted notes. Understand the Physics properly!👆
Oh wait a minute 12th to 3td sting a
Ahhhh it's why I keep climbing higher out of tune😮
Ahhhhhhhhhh
Wtf
Thank you sir
He said attacked that note