LDAC is not obviously noticeable but subtle in most music. However, it is most noticeable in FLAC/WAV ASMR files. LDAC really improves the asmr experience.
Recently bought the Air 3 Deluxe HS for my Galaxy S21 Ultra. The sound quality is good, especially when streaming Apple Music in regular Lossless (haven't tried the Hi-Res one). I think the LDAC codec will work mostly on Android devices, but on iOS devices will work on AAC codec instead.
The Air3 Deluxe HS does a great job for a non Apple device. Great sound and noise-cancelling. I think it's the best earbuds for less than $50, but even better than most that cost over one hundred dollars. The App needs to be updated, so it doesn't have issues when you use it.
This video saved my user experience with my Edifier Neo buds pro. I'm getting frequent audio cut-offs using LDAC codec with my Lenovo Legion 2 phone. It's very annoying. After changing the codec to AAC at the system settings/developers option, no more sound cutoff. And it didn't reduce the sound quality imo. I'm not an audiophile. Just an avg Spotify listener.
@@dexterm7666 I agree. I can’t hear the difference between ldac and sbc/aac. I’d much rather the more stable connection and the better battery life that you get with the so called ‘inferior’ codecs. I am beginning to suspect that LDAC is marketing snake oil.
@@TomMurphy-gx7zr it's not snake oil. Ya'll listening via streaming which is already a hell of an experience. To have a smooth experience, it's better to use local files and preferably lossless like flac, wav, etc. I have both lossless and lossy which is m4a (aac), opus, flac and wav. I can say LDAC does make a difference compared to AAC but not for Aptx. LDAC/Aptx improve sound quality by 10%~ is what I would say. This is Sony WH-1000XM4 and Sabbat E12 Ultra
Thanks for the upload! The issue is that bluetooth audio is the second encoding and it's literally the same as, say, transcoding mp3 to aac. As we all know lossy to lossy is bad and this is what is happening with bluetooth audio. This is why I do not mind to listen to my 128kbps Opus with LDAC: The smaller the second generation loss the better, and I do indeed notice a subtle difference in select details compared to bt aac. Delivering 128k Opus with 990k LDAC may look weird but it's the closest to getting the Opus 1 to 1 onto the earbud! I'm longing for the day Opus gets employed in the bluetooth world itself.
This one opened my eyes about using BT earbuds! So much talk about CODECS and many times we forgot that BT Audio is REENCODING the source! It's like video "transcoding" (that i avoid at all costs, because the source is generally reencoded - who has bluray anyway?? :D)
I can confirm Android defaults LDAC to "Adaptive", but after forcing it to 990/909 and toggling down to 330/303, testing with some high-res files of different genres, I can't hear the difference with these speakers. It still sounds better than AAC. Open ear buds are rare these days, so these are some of the best you can get these days at any price. They DESTROY the $150 Sony Linkbuds in sound quality, for anybody comparing them. I skipped the sketchy SoundPeats app, you don't need it if your phone has its own EQ app.
Wow! Thanks for such a good explanation of the codecs and sound! But.. with Soundpeats.. I have always said they really need to put the effort that do with their hardware into their app support to.. as it is really lagging behind with the competition! Especially when you own a few pairs of their ear buds.. you notice it. Nicely done.. 👍
Nice review! I've agreed on almost all of your points. But I have some minor refining. 1) Your statement at 01:33 "if you have Android 8 and above you will have LDAC build-in" is not 100% correct. The quote you've sited "enabling every OEM to integrate this standard into their own Android devices freely" means that OEM have to hire software developers to do the job. In the real world there are Android devices ver.8 and above without LDAC because developers have to implement LDAC codec support. 2) 60 ms of LDAC delay you've measured in a latency test was highly likely not a LDAC codec (or at least not the latency of LDAC itself) but some other codec because in published tests LDAC do not capable of such low delays, usually it measures above 200 ms. It's hard to verify which codec really was used in certain time, but checking Android Developers settings after the test (after you switch to gaming mode and stays in this mode) may help. Also such low latency could be a software sync of RUclips - many videoplays provides software methods of audio/ video synchronization in the case of Bluetooth connection.
Salamat pagi! My friend! The inner workings of the buds themselves are the things most of us that may more tech savy. I am glad you did the research and shared this most misunderstood subject.
Good 👍🏽 But, it's been a long time since the Airpod 2 are no longer a reference in the world of half in ear, I think most of us would have liked to have a vs with the Airpod 3 in terms of sound quality. 🙏🏽
Yeah I was thinking about the 2nd Gen AirPods comparison but at the moment its the best I could do. Having said that I'll try and see if I can get the 3rd gen next!
Its all in the cymbals. That's where I can hear a difference with LDAC, if any, and maybe 3% max. As all things audio go, law of diminishing returns is in effect, hardware and software matter, and our brain has its own DSP that sometimes just gets wonky and tricks us. Sound wise, LDAC doesnt make as much of a difference as it did 5+years ago and now that everything is truly wireless its hard to justify its use, especially on semi-in ears. LDAC receiver on a Fiio or Qudelix bluetooth amp with wired iems, now thats a different story. Thanks for the review!
Completely agree with you on all points! I personally use LDAC on my FiiO BTR5 to make the best out of bluetooth (not to forget set it at 990kbps) I would love to hear the differences back then but thanks for the pointer! Will definitely focus on the cymbals when comparing codecs next 😁
This is a great topic!! If the driver and tune is good enough that it can benefit from getting more bandwidth, only then LDAC is worth the power consumption..
Absolutely! But it’s quite a sensitive one haha Let’s say we’re talking of flagships from Sony, NUARL, or even the Moondrop Alice I think they might be able to show a clearer difference and make it worth the costs But again it’s a very personal thing, and some might be able to perceive the difference enough that they turn it on even if they have 3 hours something battery left, but hey if you enjoy it then I’m happy right! Haha
I can't decide whether I should get this or the FIIL CC Nano. The soundpeats seems to have a better sound quality, but the design makes me gripe on the FIIL more. Can anyone suggest if the sound quality has a huge difference or not? My other consideration is the mic quality (which I think both work fine).
Thank you so much for this video, i have been looking for this comparison since they launched, and who better than you to talk about it (my taste in sound is pretty similar to yours, so you are my first option in the youtube tws world lol) So, just to be totally sure, I have a stuborn question: . . . . Does the HS sound better in sbc than the OG in AptX Adaptive? 🤔
Hahaha hey man, I’m glad I made it in time! And yeah just to really nail it down once more, the HS sounds better than the OGs even on AptX Adaptive In my experience where AptX Adaptive really shines is when it can automatically reach low latency while gaming but QCC3040 is not it (at least you need QCC3046 like on Air3 Pro) This is something real useful cause I’m too lazy to turn on game mode (haha well jk only sometimes), but sound quality wise to be honest it’s too small to discern, and in all seriousness SBC is just fine 😆
Air3 Deluxe is their best earphones to date! Got mine last week and love it so much..I got my Wife a pair as well. This video was amazing because I cross shopped them against Apple's Airpod Pro 2 as well. May as well save the money! These are amazing 👏🏾 Have you tested any of the Airpod clones like the HuiLian H2Sultra? Would love to see how they compare to these since the price point is the same
Thank you for this video review, I am Planning to buy nextweek between Soundpeats air3 deluxe or Sabbat x12 ultra 2022 version, i was wondering which of these 2 has a better bass and sound quality?
Big no, the battery consumption is not worth it. As much as I enjoy ANC, I find that I rarely use it because i find that most of the time, the battery life is more important. Let alone LDAC's consumption rate, I do not think I'll ever use it. I have good headphones for that, which is better than any wireless headphones at any price.
Exactly, in an extremely portable and tiny earbuds like these battery life is really limited and I just can't afford to spend even more battery for some 5% improvement when I'm really looking for it haha ANC is good nowadays tho, my latest sub 100 recommendation can last 6-8 hours easily with that on so it's cool!
I agree, LDAC in TWS and even Bluetooth adapters is a bad combination for battery. My Shanling UP4 battery is on it's last legs, I realise now if I hadn't used LDAC I would have gone through less charge cycles and the battery might still be good. I also have a Hidizs H2, LDAC playtime is a joke on it but it default starts on LDAC, you can switch off "HD audio" on phone settings and get SBC or use their app which is not good. Now I use "Bluetooth Codec Changer" app from Play store, it's an awesome app, I can quickly switch it to APTX HD and get more battery time, and I can't hear the difference!
I think that most people doesn't even know what is a codec... LDAC just allows more data transmitted in the same time than AAC or Aptx, and a wider sampling frequency. So if the speaker is bad, it will be worse because you will ear more noise. In this case, these tws seem to be good enough. For 50$ you also have the Fiil T1 pro or lite which sounds better but without anc or english prompt
Hey man. I love your videos .. But i have a suggestion.. You do compare the mic of airpods pro vs others. Next video , we would like to see you enable noise canceling in airpods pro( it only enabled on phone calls and using iphone) Please do a comparison in real phone calls
Great review as usual, how do these compare to the SOUNDPEATS TrueAir 2 ? I love the TureAir 2 but if I talk on the phone and it's windy, the noise suppression cuts out my voice.
first thing I bought the SoundPEATS Air3 Deluxe HS but then after various videos that talk about aptx adaptive I bought the Air 3..... I was disappointed they cost almost the same but the quality of the material of the air 3 it seems cheaper. as far as the sound is concerned, trust me you don't notice the difference..... I repeat, they cost the same; better to take the deluxe hs because they have more battery and the material seems more premium
I have 2 units of Soundpeats Air3 (4 buds = 2 left buds + 2 right buds) one unit's left bud's battery is gone, another unit's right bud's battery is gone, so can I merge the good one's to a unit ?? I mean now the situation is faulty left + working right = one unit of Air3, and working left + faulty right = another unit of Air3. But I want to merge the good buds into a unit, possible??
What pair of earbuds would you recommend to buy for about 60 dollars. And which ones for 30 dollars. I'm looking at soundpeats mini (30 dollars) or should I invest in soundpeats mini pro (60 dollars). Also I see that there is soundpeats mini pro hs. Which one is the best for 60 dollars and which one for 30 dollars? Thank you
Personally I'm skeptical about LDAC in tiny earbuds. I have some over hear, overpriced, Sopy headphones with LDAC. it's noticable and it sounds amazing. But what good would be the LDAC codec in drivers I doubt will take advantage of it. I had some wired earbuds that were Hi-Res certified. But they were wired and they were on the big side. They had like 5 drivers or something like that. But now there are this really tiny Bluetooth earbuds. They fit the BT and DAC and battery in. They can't really fit that much driver. I did not expect the latency of LDAC and game mode on to be sooo low. Wow.
Great video thank you so much for the explaining. I really have a difficulty in choosing which one to buy. I usually use the earphones for asmr and gaming can you please tell me if i should by the air 3 deluxe or deluxe hs on any other model
Thank you very much for the info and review. So, would you say this Air3 Deluxe HS has the best sound quality of all open earphones in the market? Would't you recommend any other, independently of the price tag and regardless of other features such as ANC?
I can’t claim as such as everyone’s got their own tastes but detail wise it is one of the best I’ve yet to hear, at least for a half in-ear And of course we don’t talk about ANC cause naturally a half in-ear purpose is to let you hear your surroundings
Damn, why i feel worry about new redmi buds 4 pro with the same LDAC codec upgrade from the previous one, PLEASE KENN, if you review redmi buds 4 pro, Use redmi buds 3 Pro for your comparison like this video, i really-really need it🙏
Haha man don’t worry about it, like I said LDAC may not be the only change happening behind an upgrade, and I’m sure the Buds 4 Pro will be a great earbuds I’ll see what I can do with that one tho, hopefully early next year since December is full 😁
I have never owned a pair of headphones/earbuds with LDAC capability. I do own Sony headphones and OnePlus Bullets Wireless 2 earbuds that use aptX HD. I recently switched to iPhone, but kept my OnePlus 7 Pro because of the better support of Bluetooth audio CODECS vs Apple still using SBC.
I'm using TrueAir 2 now and I like its sound profile so much! So, Is this Air 3 Deluxe HS is even better than TrueAir 2 or TrueAir 3 or Air3 or Air3 Pro?
I still can understand when Nerding about IEM & DAC But when it came to TWS is too complicated for me especially About their SQ since Codec is a thing on TWS There is Quality on ANC & Ambience mode too, I started to give up on TWS, Nekocake SE is the last TWS i bought Now decided to back on Wired with Truthear Hexa with Moondrop Dawn DAC Still dunno if you could feel the difference between Hi-Res on TWS or no, Unlike IEM + DAC
Haha tell me about it, hopefully I can try out the Truthear Hexa soon since man there are so much good words around it, but I agree in the IEM world a good DAC will really make the difference, although some of the cheaper ones may be hard to differentiate, I would just say go for the built-in dongle 😂
@@namedkenn The bass sounds like Truthear Zero's bass because it uses the same DD, even though the tuning is different. The bass extension is great, the bass is fast The mid is a balance between a female and male, a bit warm and thick. The position is not too intimate. The male vocals are the right weight, thick and it's just really good for the price, the female vocals are also sweet Treble sounds really good, Clean, Extended & Airy (good deal when you looking alternative from Planar IEM) (Tested with Poco X3 Pro + Moondrop Dawn DAC & music player UAPP)
Yo @kenneth Tanaka love your videos! I need to find a pair of open TWS like these as the in ear canal phones buds don't fit me. Are these Air3 Deluxe HS the best out there? Have you got any thoughts on the Xiaomi buds 4? Any recommendations for the best option appreciated.
What is difference between SOUNDPEATS Air 3 and SOUNDPEATS Air 3 Deluxe HS? Do You recomment for me SOUNDPEATS Air 3 Deluxe HS or find something other like 50$ price?
For me, i bought the sony XM4's, which also have LDAC support. The wireless range is insane. I can go to the batthroom approximately 15 meters and 3 walls between my pc and my earphones and have absolutely no stutter or even noticable decline in audio quality. Greetings from germany! I mean the audio quality from the xm4's is rather midrange, but i bought them mainly for noise cancelation while programming at the office.
How is the case size compared to Airpods gen 2? That's honestly the most important part for me, not in anyway an audiophile but I need to be able to carry around the case in my watch pocket without it being annoying or in the way.
I recently used Haylou W1 which I bought on your recommendation and I love the sounds of it. Now I want to know if there is any tws earbud better than W1 in Soundpeats lineup for upgrading. Please give me a worthy recommendation as I'm your die hard fan. 😍
10:47 Not to be that guy but Aptx & Aptx Adaptive has a much lower latency than SBC. This test should have compared the LDAC and APTX Adaptive latency.
Hi, bought my soundpeats air3 deluxe hs with your guidance. But I have a problem having it connected with an app in my iPhone, how do set equaliser using iOS? Also, it seems like my right pair gets drain faster compare to the other one.
Thanks! Actually it goes back to the listener and what suits their tastes right 😁 the Sony XM4s are actually one of the rare ones that has acceptable battery life on LDAC, although it comes at the cost of well… size haha
@@namedkenn that`s right every time i use ldac i wonder what people say about battery and ldac it does really desrve the cost size is not a proplem with spinfit medium size i`m 176 cm tall and i found them very compatible with my ear size body ratio i open my mouth a little and push them they are very comfort and secure🤩
When the source is aac and the codec receiver is tuned on aac does it re encode or does it play natively ? Can't find this info. On the other hand if the source is lossless LDAC takes obviously (at least if we consider a higher bitrate to be more efficient than AAC @250 kbps for instance) advantages over SBC Aptx etc. otherwise totally useless imo
So does soundpeats mini earbuds series use the same concept ？ Like mini，mini pro and mini pro hs🤣 Btw which one do you recommend？ Or any other suggestion for soundpeats earbud？😬
Just got my hands on them but I'm kinda disappointed with their sound loudness but sound quality is top-notch.. so anything that I'm missing to increase the sound loudness?
I don't buy Soundpeats products anymore since a I had the Sonic. After 2 month usage the push button on the left earpiece stopped working. I turned to the customer support and they advice to put back and take out the earphone from the charging case several times. Obviously it did not work, so I got back to them that it was not successful. Then they blocked me and did not talk to me ever since.🤷♂️
Sorry to hear that! My Sonic is still good although the case battery’s dead, and when I checked where I bought it I realized I don’t have any warranty I agree a bit challenging when it comes to aftersales, so you have to ask before anything to see how’s the warranty, and for sure those with local distributor presence will fare better (although still this might be tricky) Anyway, mind telling me the other brands you prefer nowadays with better support?
100 correct! Real iem audiophiles know this. I have 20 chifi iems and 9 daps. I have the og monarch, og clairvoyance, og oracle to name a few. Wired audiophile generally never eq. Tune your driver correctly.
i thought i have a defective unit but now i know its really a cons of Air 3 Deluxe HS the sudden break of the sound balance between the left and right earbuds, its annoying i hope software update fix it..
AptX doesn’t necessarily mean low latency, there is a specific version of it called AptX LL that does, but even basic SBC can be made very low latency (around 150ms total, 50ms you said is just on the earbuds, not considering the phone) And even lower nowadays you can look for LC3 codec, or those with dedicated dongles that bypass the phone latency
Thanks for such good video you are the best. I want to ask you i have the tronsmart spunky beat and The sound for me is amazing but for phone calls sucks.can you please tell me air3 deluxe hs is better in sound quality?? Can you suggest me one with spunky beat sound quality or better but i can make calls with no problem to hear me?? Thanks
Have you found a solution to sound shifting from right to left earbuds? I have this problem now and can't seem to fix it by switching from EQ presets and custom EQs. My Air3 DHS now has unbalanced sound.😢
normally i listen to classical musics and lots of instrumentations, and you can really tell the difference with LDAC. on the other hand if your listening to modern music with very minimal instruments and only got synthesizers, drum beats, guitars etc. youll probably wont hear the difference.
There are different frequencies in my app EQ and I see on reddit that other have the same. Is it after some update? Could you recommend some new EQ config? Is the Soundpeats preset ok after firmware update?
bought the redmi buds pro 4, a week old now and i think features the same as these. has LDAC too but to me the volumes are so low with TWS these days, seems like air pods pro lives up to it's name?
Given that it's the same headset, would you pay more (like 10$ more) for an upgrade from SBC to LDAC + better noise cancelling and wireless hi res? Talking about edifier w820nb
Great content appreciate. Between the 3 soundpeats, Air 3 vs Air 3 deluxe vs Air 3 deluxe HS . Which is excellent for quality especially outdoor environment. Currently using Samsung buds live which is really good for call quality as it has 3 mic in each plus bone conduction but pain for longer duration calls. Kindly advise if any other in semi in ear design. Thank you
My air3 deluxe hs always stutters or out of range when my phone is in my pocket or atleast 2 meters distance. Should I return this? Cos it's so buggy for me
Hey ken can you do the Edifier W240 tn review. Saw that on your mic test video and thought it's a good pick for year end sales. Saw W240tn for 50-55$ range
Well it might take a couple more weeks before we get to that (it’s already scheduled!) and I’ve seen the $50 price tag, that’s a killer deal! I’ve talked a bit more about it here ruclips.net/video/tlbPKBIB13w/видео.html
U has them the mics were so bad I had to return them. I was trying to talk on the phone in my car with the windows up no one could hear me. The sound was ok
LDAC is not obviously noticeable but subtle in most music. However, it is most noticeable in FLAC/WAV ASMR files. LDAC really improves the asmr experience.
Nice
Recently bought the Air 3 Deluxe HS for my Galaxy S21 Ultra. The sound quality is good, especially when streaming Apple Music in regular Lossless (haven't tried the Hi-Res one). I think the LDAC codec will work mostly on Android devices, but on iOS devices will work on AAC codec instead.
The Air3 Deluxe HS does a great job for a non Apple device. Great sound and noise-cancelling. I think it's the best earbuds for less than $50, but even better than most that cost over one hundred dollars. The App needs to be updated, so it doesn't have issues when you use it.
The difference between SBC and LDAC is quite noticeble... at least for me... The difference between AAC and LDAC is quite subtle though.
This video saved my user experience with my Edifier Neo buds pro.
I'm getting frequent audio cut-offs using LDAC codec with my Lenovo Legion 2 phone. It's very annoying.
After changing the codec to AAC at the system settings/developers option, no more sound cutoff. And it didn't reduce the sound quality imo. I'm not an audiophile. Just an avg Spotify listener.
You cant ear the difference cause spotify doesnt support ldac audio you will need tidal to experience ldac audio quality
@@samlay.x does apple music work for ldac
@@dexterm7666 I agree. I can’t hear the difference between ldac and sbc/aac. I’d much rather the more stable connection and the better battery life that you get with the so called ‘inferior’ codecs. I am beginning to suspect that LDAC is marketing snake oil.
@@TomMurphy-gx7zr it's not snake oil.
Ya'll listening via streaming which is already a hell of an experience. To have a smooth experience, it's better to use local files and preferably lossless like flac, wav, etc.
I have both lossless and lossy which is m4a (aac), opus, flac and wav. I can say LDAC does make a difference compared to AAC but not for Aptx. LDAC/Aptx improve sound quality by 10%~ is what I would say.
This is Sony WH-1000XM4 and Sabbat E12 Ultra
That was a pretty great test/review! I'm impressed by the mic quality of this Deluxe HS.
Thanks for your time and research.
I’m glad you think so! The mic test definitely surprised me as well 😆
@@namedkenn Hi, does the mic differ between the Deluxe HS and the Deluxe-only Version?
Thank you for this review! I think there's a noticeable improvement in the recent versions Air4 and Air4 Lite so we'd appreciate a review of them too
Thanks for the upload! The issue is that bluetooth audio is the second encoding and it's literally the same as, say, transcoding mp3 to aac. As we all know lossy to lossy is bad and this is what is happening with bluetooth audio. This is why I do not mind to listen to my 128kbps Opus with LDAC: The smaller the second generation loss the better, and I do indeed notice a subtle difference in select details compared to bt aac. Delivering 128k Opus with 990k LDAC may look weird but it's the closest to getting the Opus 1 to 1 onto the earbud! I'm longing for the day Opus gets employed in the bluetooth world itself.
This one opened my eyes about using BT earbuds! So much talk about CODECS and many times we forgot that BT Audio is REENCODING the source! It's like video "transcoding" (that i avoid at all costs, because the source is generally reencoded - who has bluray anyway?? :D)
I can confirm Android defaults LDAC to "Adaptive", but after forcing it to 990/909 and toggling down to 330/303, testing with some high-res files of different genres, I can't hear the difference with these speakers. It still sounds better than AAC. Open ear buds are rare these days, so these are some of the best you can get these days at any price. They DESTROY the $150 Sony Linkbuds in sound quality, for anybody comparing them. I skipped the sketchy SoundPeats app, you don't need it if your phone has its own EQ app.
Android AAC sucks, Apple AAC is amazing.
Wow! Thanks for such a good explanation of the codecs and sound! But.. with Soundpeats.. I have always said they really need to put the effort that do with their hardware into their app support to.. as it is really lagging behind with the competition! Especially when you own a few pairs of their ear buds.. you notice it. Nicely done.. 👍
Appreciate the comment! I do agree especially on the app side, it’s pretty jarring at this point 😅 again thanks for watching!
damn it sounds way better with your custom eq! Thanks kenneth, i'm copying that for sure!
I’m glad you found it useful! Enjoy mann ✊🏻
Where can I find this eq config 👀
Nice review! I've agreed on almost all of your points. But I have some minor refining.
1) Your statement at 01:33 "if you have Android 8 and above you will have LDAC build-in" is not 100% correct. The quote you've sited "enabling every OEM to integrate this standard into their own Android devices freely" means that OEM have to hire software developers to do the job. In the real world there are Android devices ver.8 and above without LDAC because developers have to implement LDAC codec support.
2) 60 ms of LDAC delay you've measured in a latency test was highly likely not a LDAC codec (or at least not the latency of LDAC itself) but some other codec because in published tests LDAC do not capable of such low delays, usually it measures above 200 ms. It's hard to verify which codec really was used in certain time, but checking Android Developers settings after the test (after you switch to gaming mode and stays in this mode) may help. Also such low latency could be a software sync of RUclips - many videoplays provides software methods of audio/ video synchronization in the case of Bluetooth connection.
Salamat pagi! My friend!
The inner workings of the buds themselves are the things most of us that may more tech savy. I am glad you did the research and shared this most misunderstood subject.
Good 👍🏽
But, it's been a long time since the Airpod 2 are no longer a reference in the world of half in ear, I think most of us would have liked to have a vs with the Airpod 3 in terms of sound quality.
🙏🏽
Yeah I was thinking about the 2nd Gen AirPods comparison but at the moment its the best I could do. Having said that I'll try and see if I can get the 3rd gen next!
Its all in the cymbals. That's where I can hear a difference with LDAC, if any, and maybe 3% max.
As all things audio go, law of diminishing returns is in effect, hardware and software matter, and our brain has its own DSP that sometimes just gets wonky and tricks us.
Sound wise, LDAC doesnt make as much of a difference as it did 5+years ago and now that everything is truly wireless its hard to justify its use, especially on semi-in ears.
LDAC receiver on a Fiio or Qudelix bluetooth amp with wired iems, now thats a different story.
Thanks for the review!
Completely agree with you on all points! I personally use LDAC on my FiiO BTR5 to make the best out of bluetooth (not to forget set it at 990kbps)
I would love to hear the differences back then but thanks for the pointer! Will definitely focus on the cymbals when comparing codecs next 😁
This is a great topic!!
If the driver and tune is good enough that it can benefit from getting more bandwidth, only then LDAC is worth the power consumption..
Absolutely! But it’s quite a sensitive one haha
Let’s say we’re talking of flagships from Sony, NUARL, or even the Moondrop Alice I think they might be able to show a clearer difference and make it worth the costs
But again it’s a very personal thing, and some might be able to perceive the difference enough that they turn it on even if they have 3 hours something battery left, but hey if you enjoy it then I’m happy right! Haha
@@namedkenn At home I don't use my TWS at all because of my IEMs 😂....and thanks for the detailed reply🤍
For better sound quality, which other in-ear airbuds do you suggest?
I can't decide whether I should get this or the FIIL CC Nano. The soundpeats seems to have a better sound quality, but the design makes me gripe on the FIIL more. Can anyone suggest if the sound quality has a huge difference or not? My other consideration is the mic quality (which I think both work fine).
So, which one did you buy? I bought both and after using them, i sold the Soundpeats haha Fiil CC Nano have way better sound imo
Looking forward to hearing your overall thought (not just sound) on the new soundpeats life compared to these. Thank you!
Thank you so much for this video, i have been looking for this comparison since they launched, and who better than you to talk about it (my taste in sound is pretty similar to yours, so you are my first option in the youtube tws world lol)
So, just to be totally sure, I have a stuborn question:
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Does the HS sound better in sbc than the OG in AptX Adaptive? 🤔
Hahaha hey man, I’m glad I made it in time! And yeah just to really nail it down once more, the HS sounds better than the OGs even on AptX Adaptive
In my experience where AptX Adaptive really shines is when it can automatically reach low latency while gaming but QCC3040 is not it (at least you need QCC3046 like on Air3 Pro)
This is something real useful cause I’m too lazy to turn on game mode (haha well jk only sometimes), but sound quality wise to be honest it’s too small to discern, and in all seriousness SBC is just fine 😆
Air3 Deluxe is their best earphones to date! Got mine last week and love it so much..I got my Wife a pair as well. This video was amazing because I cross shopped them against Apple's Airpod Pro 2 as well. May as well save the money! These are amazing 👏🏾
Have you tested any of the Airpod clones like the HuiLian H2Sultra?
Would love to see how they compare to these since the price point is the same
Thanks So Much for the Detailed Review. I own the Air 3 and this was extremely helpful for a better understanding
How's the experience with air 3?
Great review as always Kenneth
Thank you so much!
I'm still getting this because i like open ear than bud types and this is the best sounding Air3 among all the variants
Yeah man you’re getting a great earbuds for the price!
Thank you for this video review, I am Planning to buy nextweek between Soundpeats air3 deluxe or Sabbat x12 ultra 2022 version, i was wondering which of these 2 has a better bass and sound quality?
Big no, the battery consumption is not worth it. As much as I enjoy ANC, I find that I rarely use it because i find that most of the time, the battery life is more important. Let alone LDAC's consumption rate, I do not think I'll ever use it. I have good headphones for that, which is better than any wireless headphones at any price.
Exactly, in an extremely portable and tiny earbuds like these battery life is really limited and I just can't afford to spend even more battery for some 5% improvement when I'm really looking for it haha
ANC is good nowadays tho, my latest sub 100 recommendation can last 6-8 hours easily with that on so it's cool!
I agree, LDAC in TWS and even Bluetooth adapters is a bad combination for battery. My Shanling UP4 battery is on it's last legs, I realise now if I hadn't used LDAC I would have gone through less charge cycles and the battery might still be good. I also have a Hidizs H2, LDAC playtime is a joke on it but it default starts on LDAC, you can switch off "HD audio" on phone settings and get SBC or use their app which is not good. Now I use "Bluetooth Codec Changer" app from Play store, it's an awesome app, I can quickly switch it to APTX HD and get more battery time, and I can't hear the difference!
Great review as always! Will you be reviewing the Mini Pro HS as well? Can you provide a comparison between them?
Great video thanks! What settings do you use on the eq please? I prefer a warm soft sounding music with less bass and more softness please
I think that most people doesn't even know what is a codec... LDAC just allows more data transmitted in the same time than AAC or Aptx, and a wider sampling frequency. So if the speaker is bad, it will be worse because you will ear more noise. In this case, these tws seem to be good enough. For 50$ you also have the Fiil T1 pro or lite which sounds better but without anc or english prompt
Awesome vid! Do a ranking of half in ears pls!
Hey man. I love your videos ..
But i have a suggestion..
You do compare the mic of airpods pro vs others.
Next video , we would like to see you enable noise canceling in airpods pro( it only enabled on phone calls and using iphone)
Please do a comparison in real phone calls
Great review as usual, how do these compare to the SOUNDPEATS TrueAir 2 ? I love the TureAir 2 but if I talk on the phone and it's windy, the noise suppression cuts out my voice.
first thing I bought the SoundPEATS Air3 Deluxe HS but then after various videos that talk about aptx adaptive I bought the Air 3..... I was disappointed they cost almost the same but the quality of the material of the air 3 it seems cheaper. as far as the sound is concerned, trust me you don't notice the difference..... I repeat, they cost the same; better to take the deluxe hs because they have more battery and the material seems more premium
I have 2 units of Soundpeats Air3 (4 buds = 2 left buds + 2 right buds)
one unit's left bud's battery is gone, another unit's right bud's battery is gone, so can I merge the good one's to a unit ??
I mean now the situation is faulty left + working right = one unit of Air3, and working left + faulty right = another unit of Air3. But I want to merge the good buds into a unit, possible??
What pair of earbuds would you recommend to buy for about 60 dollars. And which ones for 30 dollars. I'm looking at soundpeats mini (30 dollars) or should I invest in soundpeats mini pro (60 dollars). Also I see that there is soundpeats mini pro hs. Which one is the best for 60 dollars and which one for 30 dollars? Thank you
Personally I'm skeptical about LDAC in tiny earbuds. I have some over hear, overpriced, Sopy headphones with LDAC. it's noticable and it sounds amazing. But what good would be the LDAC codec in drivers I doubt will take advantage of it. I had some wired earbuds that were Hi-Res certified. But they were wired and they were on the big side. They had like 5 drivers or something like that. But now there are this really tiny Bluetooth earbuds. They fit the BT and DAC and battery in. They can't really fit that much driver. I did not expect the latency of LDAC and game mode on to be sooo low. Wow.
soundpeats air 3 vs soundpeats air 3 deluxe?
Great video thank you so much for the explaining.
I really have a difficulty in choosing which one to buy.
I usually use the earphones for asmr and gaming can you please tell me if i should by the air 3 deluxe or deluxe hs on any other model
Thank you very much for the info and review. So, would you say this Air3 Deluxe HS has the best sound quality of all open earphones in the market? Would't you recommend any other, independently of the price tag and regardless of other features such as ANC?
I can’t claim as such as everyone’s got their own tastes but detail wise it is one of the best I’ve yet to hear, at least for a half in-ear
And of course we don’t talk about ANC cause naturally a half in-ear purpose is to let you hear your surroundings
I miss the conclusion section at the end 😔
Hi, what EQ did you use to improve the sound?
Thank you
Damn, why i feel worry about new redmi buds 4 pro with the same LDAC codec upgrade from the previous one, PLEASE KENN, if you review redmi buds 4 pro, Use redmi buds 3 Pro for your comparison like this video, i really-really need it🙏
Haha man don’t worry about it, like I said LDAC may not be the only change happening behind an upgrade, and I’m sure the Buds 4 Pro will be a great earbuds
I’ll see what I can do with that one tho, hopefully early next year since December is full 😁
I have never owned a pair of headphones/earbuds with LDAC capability. I do own Sony headphones and OnePlus Bullets Wireless 2 earbuds that use aptX HD. I recently switched to iPhone, but kept my OnePlus 7 Pro because of the better support of Bluetooth audio CODECS vs Apple still using SBC.
I'm using TrueAir 2 now and I like its sound profile so much! So, Is this Air 3 Deluxe HS is even better than TrueAir 2 or TrueAir 3 or Air3 or Air3 Pro?
I still can understand when Nerding about IEM & DAC
But when it came to TWS is too complicated for me especially About their SQ since Codec is a thing on TWS
There is Quality on ANC & Ambience mode too,
I started to give up on TWS, Nekocake SE is the last TWS i bought
Now decided to back on Wired with Truthear Hexa with Moondrop Dawn DAC
Still dunno if you could feel the difference between Hi-Res on TWS or no,
Unlike IEM + DAC
Haha tell me about it, hopefully I can try out the Truthear Hexa soon since man there are so much good words around it, but I agree in the IEM world a good DAC will really make the difference, although some of the cheaper ones may be hard to differentiate, I would just say go for the built-in dongle 😂
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The bass sounds like Truthear Zero's bass because it uses the same DD, even though the tuning is different. The bass extension is great, the bass is fast
The mid is a balance between a female and male, a bit warm and thick. The position is not too intimate. The male vocals are the right weight, thick and it's just really good for the price, the female vocals are also sweet
Treble sounds really good, Clean, Extended & Airy (good deal when you looking alternative from Planar IEM)
(Tested with Poco X3 Pro + Moondrop Dawn DAC & music player UAPP)
Yo @kenneth Tanaka love your videos! I need to find a pair of open TWS like these as the in ear canal phones buds don't fit me. Are these Air3 Deluxe HS the best out there? Have you got any thoughts on the Xiaomi buds 4? Any recommendations for the best option appreciated.
Good pm sir kenneth. In your own honest opinion, which is better Soundpeats air3 deluxe hs or soundpeats sonic pro? Thank you
What is difference between SOUNDPEATS Air 3 and SOUNDPEATS Air 3 Deluxe HS? Do You recomment for me SOUNDPEATS Air 3 Deluxe HS or find something other like 50$ price?
Kenneth, what do you think is best for call and listening to rock music between Earfun Air S and Soundpeats Air 3 Pro?
For me, i bought the sony XM4's, which also have LDAC support. The wireless range is insane. I can go to the batthroom approximately 15 meters and 3 walls between my pc and my earphones and have absolutely no stutter or even noticable decline in audio quality. Greetings from germany!
I mean the audio quality from the xm4's is rather midrange, but i bought them mainly for noise cancelation while programming at the office.
I have a grocery store across the road and my XM5s keep playing from my laptop at home when I'm almost inside the store haha
When I switched AptX On and off on my Sonic Pro's I could definitely tell a difference.
It depend on the phone you used even if the phone support all those codecs if the connections is not strong it can sound as loud what you're expecting
Not sure what point we're talking about here, but codec doesn't have anything to do with loudness right
How is the case size compared to Airpods gen 2? That's honestly the most important part for me, not in anyway an audiophile but I need to be able to carry around the case in my watch pocket without it being annoying or in the way.
I recently used Haylou W1 which I bought on your recommendation and I love the sounds of it. Now I want to know if there is any tws earbud better than W1 in Soundpeats lineup for upgrading. Please give me a worthy recommendation as I'm your die hard fan. 😍
Please give me a reply 🥺
when i tried same buds in both aac and sbc, i only heard difference in sound signature not sound quality, even tho it was only a bit different
Whoa why was youtube playback out of sync like that, i have not seen anything like that
10:47 Not to be that guy but Aptx & Aptx Adaptive has a much lower latency than SBC. This test should have compared the LDAC and APTX Adaptive latency.
Hi res is not noticeable vs 320kbps mp3 except on paper.😒😒
Nice videos as always, can you review the new redmi buds 4 pro?
Hi, bought my soundpeats air3 deluxe hs with your guidance. But I have a problem having it connected with an app in my iPhone, how do set equaliser using iOS? Also, it seems like my right pair gets drain faster compare to the other one.
great review. one question, will the deluxe hs charge on og case?
Thanks and yes! The earbuds have exactly the same shape
okay2 i'm buying the HS now, thank u!
Hope you enjoy it!
you are right in many things about ldac vs sbc . but i feel that on my sony xm4 ldac is a little more smooth or gentle or easy to listen than sbc
Thanks! Actually it goes back to the listener and what suits their tastes right 😁 the Sony XM4s are actually one of the rare ones that has acceptable battery life on LDAC, although it comes at the cost of well… size haha
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that`s right
every time i use ldac i wonder what people say about battery and ldac
it does really desrve the cost
size is not a proplem with spinfit medium size
i`m 176 cm tall and i found them very compatible with my ear size body ratio
i open my mouth a little and push them
they are very comfort and secure🤩
For me, AptX Adaptive is good enough for sound quality and lower latency. LDAC might have higher bitrate but the latency is pretty bad.
Yeah if we’re talking latency LDAC is not really it 😁 on the other hand AptX Adaptive strikes a good balance
When the source is aac and the codec receiver is tuned on aac does it re encode or does it play natively ? Can't find this info. On the other hand if the source is lossless LDAC takes obviously (at least if we consider a higher bitrate to be more efficient than AAC @250 kbps for instance) advantages over SBC Aptx etc. otherwise totally useless imo
So does soundpeats mini earbuds series use the same concept ？
Like mini，mini pro and mini pro hs🤣
Btw which one do you recommend？
Or any other suggestion for soundpeats earbud？😬
Just got my hands on them but I'm kinda disappointed with their sound loudness but sound quality is top-notch.. so anything that I'm missing to increase the sound loudness?
I don't buy Soundpeats products anymore since a I had the Sonic. After 2 month usage the push button on the left earpiece stopped working. I turned to the customer support and they advice to put back and take out the earphone from the charging case several times. Obviously it did not work, so I got back to them that it was not successful. Then they blocked me and did not talk to me ever since.🤷♂️
Sorry to hear that! My Sonic is still good although the case battery’s dead, and when I checked where I bought it I realized I don’t have any warranty
I agree a bit challenging when it comes to aftersales, so you have to ask before anything to see how’s the warranty, and for sure those with local distributor presence will fare better (although still this might be tricky)
Anyway, mind telling me the other brands you prefer nowadays with better support?
Thanks for this test video!! 👍
Happy to help! 😁
Good review.Have you heard about the edifier w240tn? It is truly amazing. You should review it!
He did a review on in few weeks ago. However, how good is Edifier W240TN in making calls especially on noisy environment?
100 correct! Real iem audiophiles know this. I have 20 chifi iems and 9 daps. I have the og monarch, og clairvoyance, og oracle to name a few. Wired audiophile generally never eq. Tune your driver correctly.
does soundpeats air 3 ear pods can fit on soundpeats air 3 deluxe hs charging case?
Which models os soundpeats support multipoint functionality? Air3? Deluxe? HS?
i thought i have a defective unit but now i know its really a cons of Air 3 Deluxe HS the sudden break of the sound balance between the left and right earbuds, its annoying i hope software update fix it..
Not sure if it’s technically possible for the game mode to have 50ms latency without aptx codec on iphone
AptX doesn’t necessarily mean low latency, there is a specific version of it called AptX LL that does, but even basic SBC can be made very low latency (around 150ms total, 50ms you said is just on the earbuds, not considering the phone)
And even lower nowadays you can look for LC3 codec, or those with dedicated dongles that bypass the phone latency
What's the best custom EQ settings that you would recommend from this? Just purchased one recently
Air 3 HS deluxe or air4 lite ?
What about movies and lip sync? Any issues or stand out winners there?
As far as videos are concerned most earbuds have no problem playing them as they all sync perfectly
Nice and usefull informations, thanks a lot.
Thanks for such good video you are the best. I want to ask you i have the tronsmart spunky beat and The sound for me is amazing but for phone calls sucks.can you please tell me air3 deluxe hs is better in sound quality?? Can you suggest me one with spunky beat sound quality or better but i can make calls with no problem to hear me?? Thanks
Which one (deluxe HS vs. non deluxe) would you recommend for the google pixel 6a when both of them are the same price?
Have you found a solution to sound shifting from right to left earbuds? I have this problem now and can't seem to fix it by switching from EQ presets and custom EQs.
My Air3 DHS now has unbalanced sound.😢
normally i listen to classical musics and lots of instrumentations, and you can really tell the difference with LDAC. on the other hand if your listening to modern music with very minimal instruments and only got synthesizers, drum beats, guitars etc. youll probably wont hear the difference.
Requesting your honest review with realme Air Buds 3 neo🙏 please
There are different frequencies in my app EQ and I see on reddit that other have the same. Is it after some update? Could you recommend some new EQ config? Is the Soundpeats preset ok after firmware update?
I liked your videos but I got confusion about does Soundpeats air3 deluxe Hs sound better then Haylou W1
what u think guys, what should i pick, these ones or oppo enco air 2?
Hi men, Which of the two has better bass?
Call quality is good. Too bad has no multipoint connection feature 😢
How's the latency between soundpeats air3deluxe HS vs non HS?
How did you use a bluetooth microphone for a video recording if it was not possible on Android devices?
I use Filmic Pro or Blackmagic Cam, as written in the video actually
Which is the best headphone without silicone? The microphone is very important to me, but?
At the moment here is my recommendations ruclips.net/video/rftgiuA7WbY/видео.html
bought the redmi buds pro 4, a week old now and i think features the same as these. has LDAC too but to me the volumes are so low with TWS these days, seems like air pods pro lives up to it's name?
Given that it's the same headset, would you pay more (like 10$ more) for an upgrade from SBC to LDAC + better noise cancelling and wireless hi res? Talking about edifier w820nb
Worth it🎉, has SBC n LDAC 🎉u can chg codec LDAC to SBC if Don t like it
I cant even get Ldac to stay on for my s10+ and aptx is greyed out. I give up.
Great content appreciate. Between the 3 soundpeats, Air 3 vs Air 3 deluxe vs Air 3 deluxe HS . Which is excellent for quality especially outdoor environment. Currently using Samsung buds live which is really good for call quality as it has 3 mic in each plus bone conduction but pain for longer duration calls. Kindly advise if any other in semi in ear design.
Thank you
My air3 deluxe hs always stutters or out of range when my phone is in my pocket or atleast 2 meters distance. Should I return this? Cos it's so buggy for me
Excellent video !
Hello. Kennet pls review the final z8000 tws and the latest FiiO FW5 they are amazing!
Hey ken can you do the Edifier W240 tn review. Saw that on your mic test video and thought it's a good pick for year end sales. Saw W240tn for 50-55$ range
Well it might take a couple more weeks before we get to that (it’s already scheduled!) and I’ve seen the $50 price tag, that’s a killer deal!
I’ve talked a bit more about it here ruclips.net/video/tlbPKBIB13w/видео.html
U has them the mics were so bad I had to return them. I was trying to talk on the phone in my car with the windows up no one could hear me. The sound was ok
Great vídeo, there are many more important things about how It sounds, ldac is far from that important, most people Will get placebo effect from it