@@douglaspope-gz1eqI'm optimistic because the batting average for Gearbox when it comes to story has been really good. 1 and 3 have boring or offensive stories while the rest are serviceable or great. Even looking at the dlc's most are just good enough and in the case of BL3 are a stark improvement. I feel it's not well documented but BL3 was in Unreal Engine 3, using the same engine they've been using the first game, until I wanna say a year or so in they switched to Unreal Engine 4. You can feel the improvement that came from this switch in the gameplay but all the time wasted in the older engine meant something had to give to release 3 on time. That's why 3's story feels bloated because it's a draft of a story that they didn't get proof read enough before launch. This is why the dlcs I feel were immediately better because they were able to do all the quality insurance that's needed with writing. There's just too many knocks out of the park (Voyage dlc, Dragon Keep, Bounty of Blood, Amazing Grace side mission in 3, etc) that I fully sucking down the copium that 3's story was just a fluke. Also for all the shit given to 3's story as being the worst part about the game it's not *that* bad when you compare and contrast. Gearbox ain't no David Cage level bad.
I liked the lack of NG+ on BL3 because I was already replaying the story in order to make additional characters. But now that's sort of a moot point since BL3 allows us to create new max-level characters after maxing out one character.
In hopes someone from Gearbox is listening, please for the love of god give options to reduce bloom or turn off visual effects. I need to see what I’m shooting shouldn’t be a problem in an FPS. Rip Fl4k GITM fade away players.
With few exceptions (Heavyweight Harker), the number of dedicated items in an enemies drop pool has NO effect on the drop rate of each. It can just seem that way if the one you want is not dropping while the others are.
@someoldguyinhawaii4960 yea, it wasn't my intention to make it seem like the chances were lower I'd there was more loot in the pool, but just how insanely discouraging it can be to want 1 of the 5 different items from the source
@@ConstantCanadian But that's just it - it's strictly psychological - and yet still real. We would feel better if the pool was only the one Item we wanted even if it took as long to drop
My only expectation for BL4 is that I expect to wait until after release to decide if BL4 is worth playing. That's two consecutive games in the series now...
the biggest thing im afraid of for BL4 is Gearbox listening to youtubers like HellFire who want post-legendary rarities to sabotage the game, BL3 already had massive issues with weapons just being useless, having that be an intentional feature would be horrible i remember BL2 and how half of the seraph weapons were just reskinned uniques and legendaries and it was so pointless
I don't think post legendaries was really the problem, rather that gearbox are just bad developers especially when it comes to balance. If instead of being considered beyond legendaries, alternative end game rarities could be a good system to add diversify & section off specific mechanics. Imagine if all seraph weapons had a unique mechanic they all shared on-top of their individual ones, off the top of my head, like seraphim rage, dealing X amount of damage or killing X amount of enemies triggers a generous buff to stats. so they could still have weaker on average individual effects than legendaries but have this overall effect regardless of weapon to make them valuable. But hay that's why overhaul modders are the better borderlands developer's, community creativity is just better.
@@Willow4526 I thought about a way to redo Seraph rarity with a unique mechanic (cause that's the only way you can make rarities above Legendaries really interesting). Make them dedicated drops only on Invincibles (cause I also thought about redoing the loot system too) and on top what they already doo, they have the side effect/mechanic of the Boss they drop from. So let's say something pretty basic. You drop the Seraph pistol on the Invincible who can generate corrosive novas, that samedi pistol will produce that same nova on top of his bullet patern.
I think Gunfire Reborn reworked their lifesteal in a great way. Since they were having the same issues of dmg being so high that all lifesteal was op, they made it so that all lifesteal effects instead heal a missing percentage of your hp per shot landed with a cd of 0.5 seconds.
if the story is even more worst than bl3 then it's going to be dead to me. And with things like New Tales of the Borderlands existence I'm not getting my hopes up that they will deliver
i feel like the majority of points you made only really effect the 5% of hardcore players. i've played a lot of the series but none of these issues have ever been a problem for someone like me. also saying "this will destroy borderlands 4" after every issue is dramatic. from the perspective of a filthy casual like me, the biggest mistake they need to avoid is simply the millennial ass writing of BL3. i like the concept of the calypsos, but their dialogue and performance makes me wanna fucking kill myself. not to mention ava and lorelei, nothing makes me wanna stick screwdrivers in my ears more than listening to them speak
The language is a bit exaggerated. Most casual gamers probably can’t relate to any of the issues since most just play it for the novel experience, and chances are they’ll just move on to the next game after completing the story or two, but for the gamers that want time sinks, he’s on point with most of the problems. The balancing is what keeps the players playing for years and excited for content. It sucks that if everyone just bought the game regardless of the quality which doesn’t greatly incentivize the company to seek quality. And that’s why indie developers can succeed because they have to focus on quality because it’s not just going to be an instant success. Focusing both on the story and long term playability. Sadly, as long as people are buying games, the long term quality will just greatly suffer unless it’s a deeply believed in core value of the developers (or when corporations give the leniency to trust developers rather than focus on profits). Also, I don’t think adding more hp is the main problem. There’s some games that do it well where adding absurd hp to end game content helps force players to actually care about mechanics and skills like the mythics system in WoW. Yes it’s tedious, but people do it and like it because of the necessity to reach end game content in a popular game. So it can’t just be implemented in the gameplay of Borderlands because there’s not a great incentive to really get better by yourself. So one of the problems with bullet sponges in a single player (for long term gamers) is the appropriate balancing of the whole game. I don’t mind some bullet sponges (even with mobs) when it forces me to actually interact and pay attention to content if it mattered. Why would I play the game with a self handicap of playing with subpar gear if I can just get better gear where it just obliterates the whole content. The problem with the legendaries in BL3 is either you’re struggling and having a good time, or get the best gear (lucky or not) and you start breezing through the content even in Mayhem 10/11. Once you understand the game, the game is too easy. But adding hp feels pointless and tedious if you don’t have to do it. But I will say though, problems will always exist. Even if we get the changes we want, it’s probably going to affect the game with casual gamers which can affect the finical success of the game which can affect the next iteration of the franchise. It sucks, but it’s a balancing act of being able to run studios long term and developing a piece people actually believe in.
The only way I'm playing 4 is if i get it free with a new pc part. Happened with 3 and honestly i never would've spent money on the game in the first place.
Mayhem levels are such a pointless mechanic, between the constant slow release of them to the modifiers, than to MH11 all be it a good addition so ppl can just play the game normally, you can literally just max level a character turn it on find a decent gun for base game mob grinding or go to the storm complex to gear up enough to go through a DLC until you can get one of the only consistently usable weapons for all characters... Id also like to add the game on console to this day, a console gen later, still has a guaranteed crash after X time bug.
Just put out a completed game with only ONE SEASON PASS. A season pass is just that, not an opportunity to bash consumers for some extra money. They've had 4 or 5 BL games and a ton of DLC to get it right and with the way gamers are at the minute this needs to be a bloody good game or it'll make a loss.
I just enjoy the gameplay in general, but I'm really bad at the game. Still figuring out good build without checking online. Kinda want to make a build by myself
@@vanMrMann it doesn't. I thought it did at one point too, but then after hours of testing, there's no difference in Badasses based on tvhm or mayhem mode
Borderlands 3 was subpar story telling. Over whelming usage of legendary drops that ruins the grind for them. It's tons of filler tasks without having them be entertaining. And again that storyline
The story is whatever. I just ignore it and besides, it has some sections that are decent. Plus the DLCs being so good make up for it. The constant legendary drops don’t bother me too much. I think they’re fun honestly.
@@XxPuffyWolfxX realistically they can just make an option to turn off legendary world drop rates for those who don't like it. I mean even mods exist in BL3 that do this already
I hope they do away with handsome jack-esque villians. The reason why jack worked cuz his humor was of the times, toilet humor. Trying to do that in bl3 and ttwl made the dialogue feel dated and corny.
@ConstantCanadian eh, he was amusing. But his entire persona can be boiled down to youtube poop humor with a veneer of menace. Tps is where he truly shines
I don't think there is much chance of Bl4 being a bomb, or especially ruining the franchise. Mistakes are made, things aren't always perfect on release, or ever sometimes. But the games are always amazing overall & at the very least good enough to maintain a player base years later. I have faith GBX will make a great game yet again.
@pacthe6376 dude, you're optimism is so refreshing. There's not much of that left in the community, I have faith too, I just know there's always a chance, and Gearbox has made some bad decisions lately
Man if the story wont be good... It will be forsaken. Also- DLC characters are better than new part of a a skill tree imo. EDIT: More rareties should come back. atleast pearls, They really added rainbow tier to a single expansion and the proceeded to make legendary the higest. Some might argue that Pearls and legendaries are the same, so this is what I think they should do. Legendaries that are too OP could just be pearls. make them even more rare than usual but remove bad rolls or keep a single roll possible. Weapons like the DP Harold could be pearl. Instead of gutting a weapon, keep it, buff it slightly and make it a pearl.
What I think would totally ruin Borderlands right now would be an open world experience every game if they took like that and made it open world experience, it became trash like Fallout the other thing that would totally ruin it is to put any woke BS in it😮
I could agree on some points and disagree on the others but id say u kinda make it js a looter shooter game, for me js want a funny story not lame like bl3 and interesting vault hunters and not flashy asf end game
I agree with dedicated drops but the loot pool I think they need to make sure they become usable maybe making a system that levels up weapons or rerolls stats with some sort of system would it make it more fun and have a lot of content which a lot of people enjoy
Eh. It's going to fail no matter what. Too many people have decided what the lore is and will be outraged by even the slightest deviation from it. People will find fault with any and every aspect of the game play. The story will disappoint many people. On top of which is an entire industry based on outrage that needs constant feeding. BL4 will fail because more people will find satisfaction in it failing than in it succeeding.
Yes! i very much agree about the useless amount of weapon in borderlands 3 and i want an end game content not DLC, but a real proper end game. i kinda hate arena end game content like the borderlands 2 digistruct peak. they miss a big opportunity in BL3, where we were given 4 planets but still lack content the mission feels like: "'Hi, do this, bye", like in Athena where the point of that place is just to pick up Maya and Ava. i dont expect BL4 to be an Open world but at least make the area more explorable.
@soulverse8622 I definitely feel that Borderlands 3 lacks a lot of explorability, and yea despite us having 4 dlc 'planets' we didn't get any new endgame content with them. Though there is still a bunch to do for BL3's endgame
@ i seen the teaser/trailer for bl4 on steam, it seems it might have the same mistake as bl3 giving many planets/world but not much else, lets hope im wrong.
@soulverse8622 from what I've gathered through the little info we have, I think, and HOPE that we're mostly going to be on the planet that is featured in the trailer
Biggest mistake they could make? Letting Randy Pitchford take the wheel again. He was lucky to catch lightning in a bottle twice with BL1 and BL2, everything since then has been pretty solid, but not legendary like the first two games were. Much deserved shade aside, I think one of the biggest mistakes they could make is to not let the story take itself seriously; I think the biggest testament to how important it is for the story to take itself seriously is the contrast between Handsome Jack and the Calypso twins in how much of a threat they are treated as by the team. Jack was a threat at every step, plans against him backfire, small gains are lost again quickly, and the entire tone of "If this goes right, we might have a shot" that carries throughout makes his eventual demise an underdog story, where with the Calypso twins, it's just 'Ugh, get of a load of these assholes, amirite?' instead of the calypso twins being taken as any sort of threat; sure, everyone admits that they're dangerous, but there's no point where the team is merely hoping that they can take them down, there's no narrative stakes because everyone is so confident they can win, and even when that burns them, instead of having that be a hinge point where their strategy shifts, they just keep 'running towards the fire' since the one time they *did* get burned, they still ultimately progressed in their plans against Troy and Tyreen.
@Aderon I mean, having a better writing can certainly help the game out, And I do think that Borderlands 3's was subpar. Having a good story will only get them so far though, most of Borderlands is played at the endgame. Meaning that once you've gotten your 4 characters to max level the story has pretty much 0 bearing on the game anymore. My theory is that the reason for BL3's crappy story is that it wasn't really meant to be about the story. A Dev has gone on record saying that the reason for no great war in 3 was because they wanted to expand the world first before they did that. So my guess is they kind of just made A story that exists as a narrative to drive the world building. As if you dig deeper than the main story, there's a lot of more important lore/implications through the games challenges, and collectibles. It certainly seems like BL3's story put the comic relief above anything else, hopefully BL4 fixes that.
Also the story in BL3 was fuckin garbage. Again BL2 had a great story that I will always continue to replay especially with the options of overpowered playthroughs with increased difficulty and better loot drop chance
Honestly BL3 made it too easy to get legendary drops in my opinion. Don't get me wrong I love getting legendary drops, but when I can get 3+ legendaries within 5 minutes of getting on the game that's a lil overkill. BL2 was the absolutely perfect fuckin game, idk what changes or why but if Gearbox can get back to the BL2 model this game will probably sell more copies than any game ever
Anything Woke will kill it I could barely stand playing Tiny Tina's Wonderlands and AVA was pure garbage to the story I'll be waiting to see how bad it is along with how unfinished it is still remember grinding a weapon then after a hot-fix or update and it's garbage now all those hours wasted no thanks Please FINISH the game before release
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Gameplay is gonna be good
The story is gonna be a let down again
I mean you could be wrong in the end be a little more optimistic
@@douglaspope-gz1eqI'm optimistic because the batting average for Gearbox when it comes to story has been really good. 1 and 3 have boring or offensive stories while the rest are serviceable or great. Even looking at the dlc's most are just good enough and in the case of BL3 are a stark improvement.
I feel it's not well documented but BL3 was in Unreal Engine 3, using the same engine they've been using the first game, until I wanna say a year or so in they switched to Unreal Engine 4. You can feel the improvement that came from this switch in the gameplay but all the time wasted in the older engine meant something had to give to release 3 on time. That's why 3's story feels bloated because it's a draft of a story that they didn't get proof read enough before launch. This is why the dlcs I feel were immediately better because they were able to do all the quality insurance that's needed with writing. There's just too many knocks out of the park (Voyage dlc, Dragon Keep, Bounty of Blood, Amazing Grace side mission in 3, etc) that I fully sucking down the copium that 3's story was just a fluke. Also for all the shit given to 3's story as being the worst part about the game it's not *that* bad when you compare and contrast. Gearbox ain't no David Cage level bad.
you forget the most important necessity of good story ,dialogs ,game play and characters
Bl3 already has gameplay down
I liked the lack of NG+ on BL3 because I was already replaying the story in order to make additional characters. But now that's sort of a moot point since BL3 allows us to create new max-level characters after maxing out one character.
I understand that. At least it's still there as an option though for those who want it
In hopes someone from Gearbox is listening, please for the love of god give options to reduce bloom or turn off visual effects. I need to see what I’m shooting shouldn’t be a problem in an FPS. Rip Fl4k GITM fade away players.
With few exceptions (Heavyweight Harker), the number of dedicated items in an enemies drop pool has NO effect on the drop rate of each. It can just seem that way if the one you want is not dropping while the others are.
@someoldguyinhawaii4960 yea, it wasn't my intention to make it seem like the chances were lower I'd there was more loot in the pool, but just how insanely discouraging it can be to want 1 of the 5 different items from the source
@@ConstantCanadian But that's just it - it's strictly psychological - and yet still real. We would feel better if the pool was only the one Item we wanted even if it took as long to drop
I'd go for that - make farming more focused.
My only expectation for BL4 is that I expect to wait until after release to decide if BL4 is worth playing. That's two consecutive games in the series now...
the biggest thing im afraid of for BL4 is Gearbox listening to youtubers like HellFire who want post-legendary rarities to sabotage the game, BL3 already had massive issues with weapons just being useless, having that be an intentional feature would be horrible
i remember BL2 and how half of the seraph weapons were just reskinned uniques and legendaries and it was so pointless
@@edenengland1883 Hellfire is one of the worst content creator we got in this franchise cycle.
I don't think post legendaries was really the problem, rather that gearbox are just bad developers especially when it comes to balance.
If instead of being considered beyond legendaries, alternative end game rarities could be a good system to add diversify & section off specific mechanics.
Imagine if all seraph weapons had a unique mechanic they all shared on-top of their individual ones, off the top of my head, like seraphim rage, dealing X amount of damage or killing X amount of enemies triggers a generous buff to stats. so they could still have weaker on average individual effects than legendaries but have this overall effect regardless of weapon to make them valuable.
But hay that's why overhaul modders are the better borderlands developer's, community creativity is just better.
@@Willow4526 I thought about a way to redo Seraph rarity with a unique mechanic (cause that's the only way you can make rarities above Legendaries really interesting). Make them dedicated drops only on Invincibles (cause I also thought about redoing the loot system too) and on top what they already doo, they have the side effect/mechanic of the Boss they drop from. So let's say something pretty basic. You drop the Seraph pistol on the Invincible who can generate corrosive novas, that samedi pistol will produce that same nova on top of his bullet patern.
I think Gunfire Reborn reworked their lifesteal in a great way. Since they were having the same issues of dmg being so high that all lifesteal was op, they made it so that all lifesteal effects instead heal a missing percentage of your hp per shot landed with a cd of 0.5 seconds.
@@theycallmetiger7340 yea, either lifesteal should be like tenths of a percent or it's just bound to be op in Borderlands
if the story is even more worst than bl3 then it's going to be dead to me. And with things like New Tales of the Borderlands existence I'm not getting my hopes up that they will deliver
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i feel like the majority of points you made only really effect the 5% of hardcore players. i've played a lot of the series but none of these issues have ever been a problem for someone like me. also saying "this will destroy borderlands 4" after every issue is dramatic. from the perspective of a filthy casual like me, the biggest mistake they need to avoid is simply the millennial ass writing of BL3. i like the concept of the calypsos, but their dialogue and performance makes me wanna fucking kill myself. not to mention ava and lorelei, nothing makes me wanna stick screwdrivers in my ears more than listening to them speak
The language is a bit exaggerated. Most casual gamers probably can’t relate to any of the issues since most just play it for the novel experience, and chances are they’ll just move on to the next game after completing the story or two, but for the gamers that want time sinks, he’s on point with most of the problems. The balancing is what keeps the players playing for years and excited for content. It sucks that if everyone just bought the game regardless of the quality which doesn’t greatly incentivize the company to seek quality. And that’s why indie developers can succeed because they have to focus on quality because it’s not just going to be an instant success. Focusing both on the story and long term playability. Sadly, as long as people are buying games, the long term quality will just greatly suffer unless it’s a deeply believed in core value of the developers (or when corporations give the leniency to trust developers rather than focus on profits).
Also, I don’t think adding more hp is the main problem. There’s some games that do it well where adding absurd hp to end game content helps force players to actually care about mechanics and skills like the mythics system in WoW. Yes it’s tedious, but people do it and like it because of the necessity to reach end game content in a popular game. So it can’t just be implemented in the gameplay of Borderlands because there’s not a great incentive to really get better by yourself. So one of the problems with bullet sponges in a single player (for long term gamers) is the appropriate balancing of the whole game. I don’t mind some bullet sponges (even with mobs) when it forces me to actually interact and pay attention to content if it mattered. Why would I play the game with a self handicap of playing with subpar gear if I can just get better gear where it just obliterates the whole content. The problem with the legendaries in BL3 is either you’re struggling and having a good time, or get the best gear (lucky or not) and you start breezing through the content even in Mayhem 10/11. Once you understand the game, the game is too easy. But adding hp feels pointless and tedious if you don’t have to do it.
But I will say though, problems will always exist. Even if we get the changes we want, it’s probably going to affect the game with casual gamers which can affect the finical success of the game which can affect the next iteration of the franchise. It sucks, but it’s a balancing act of being able to run studios long term and developing a piece people actually believe in.
The only way I'm playing 4 is if i get it free with a new pc part. Happened with 3 and honestly i never would've spent money on the game in the first place.
Mayhem levels are such a pointless mechanic, between the constant slow release of them to the modifiers, than to MH11 all be it a good addition so ppl can just play the game normally, you can literally just max level a character turn it on find a decent gun for base game mob grinding or go to the storm complex to gear up enough to go through a DLC until you can get one of the only consistently usable weapons for all characters...
Id also like to add the game on console to this day, a console gen later, still has a guaranteed crash after X time bug.
@Willow4526 modifiers were a decent concept, but at the end of the day they're more annoying than anything
Just put out a completed game with only ONE SEASON PASS. A season pass is just that, not an opportunity to bash consumers for some extra money. They've had 4 or 5 BL games and a ton of DLC to get it right and with the way gamers are at the minute this needs to be a bloody good game or it'll make a loss.
I just enjoy the gameplay in general, but I'm really bad at the game. Still figuring out good build without checking online. Kinda want to make a build by myself
@captain_Kickapoo that's an awesome position to be in. This game's got so much cool stuff to discover. Good luck with your build dude!
😂😂😂😂 lol don't play online somebody might drop u a gift they'll ruin the game 4 u 😂😂😂😂😂 get a unbreakable shield and it's over
TVHM increases eg the chance of badass enemies. There is a difference.
@@vanMrMann it doesn't. I thought it did at one point too, but then after hours of testing, there's no difference in Badasses based on tvhm or mayhem mode
Borderlands 3 was subpar story telling. Over whelming usage of legendary drops that ruins the grind for them. It's tons of filler tasks without having them be entertaining. And again that storyline
The story is whatever. I just ignore it and besides, it has some sections that are decent. Plus the DLCs being so good make up for it. The constant legendary drops don’t bother me too much. I think they’re fun honestly.
@@XxPuffyWolfxX realistically they can just make an option to turn off legendary world drop rates for those who don't like it. I mean even mods exist in BL3 that do this already
100% agree
More legendary for sake of it. 95% are dismal sometimes worse then purples
It's a good story...just not great. Definitely feels like it was designed for multiple playthroughs
I hope they do away with handsome jack-esque villians. The reason why jack worked cuz his humor was of the times, toilet humor. Trying to do that in bl3 and ttwl made the dialogue feel dated and corny.
@@sirgrass263 but handsome jack was perfect!!! /s
@ConstantCanadian eh, he was amusing. But his entire persona can be boiled down to youtube poop humor with a veneer of menace. Tps is where he truly shines
I don't think there is much chance of Bl4 being a bomb, or especially ruining the franchise. Mistakes are made, things aren't always perfect on release, or ever sometimes. But the games are always amazing overall & at the very least good enough to maintain a player base years later. I have faith GBX will make a great game yet again.
@pacthe6376 dude, you're optimism is so refreshing. There's not much of that left in the community, I have faith too, I just know there's always a chance, and Gearbox has made some bad decisions lately
Man if the story wont be good... It will be forsaken.
Also- DLC characters are better than new part of a a skill tree imo.
EDIT: More rareties should come back. atleast pearls, They really added rainbow tier to a single expansion and the proceeded to make legendary the higest.
Some might argue that Pearls and legendaries are the same, so this is what I think they should do. Legendaries that are too OP could just be pearls. make them even more rare than usual but remove bad rolls or keep a single roll possible. Weapons like the DP Harold could be pearl.
Instead of gutting a weapon, keep it, buff it slightly and make it a pearl.
@frozi1541 AFAIK that's a pretty common thought regarding DLC trees. I would much rather have 2 extra character as well
What I think would totally ruin Borderlands right now would be an open world experience every game if they took like that and made it open world experience, it became trash like Fallout the other thing that would totally ruin it is to put any woke BS in it😮
Truthfully, if they make borderlands 4 an open world experience, I will not buy it
I personally don't think we need to worry but i understand why people are irritated
My hopes are pretty high for the next game. Maybe a little too high, but we will see soon enough
I could agree on some points and disagree on the others but id say u kinda make it js a looter shooter game, for me js want a funny story not lame like bl3 and interesting vault hunters and not flashy asf end game
Tiny Tinas Wonderland does have dedicated drops xd
@@hanshameke2062 I guess if you count the chaos bunnies as a dedicated source
@@ConstantCanadianno it has actual dedicated drops there are several uniques that aren't in the world drop pool or a quest reward
I agree with dedicated drops but the loot pool I think they need to make sure they become usable maybe making a system that levels up weapons or rerolls stats with some sort of system would it make it more fun and have a lot of content which a lot of people enjoy
I enjoyed bl3, and TTW.
@robert9595 I love BL3 too. TTW is fun, but there just isn't enough endgame content to keep me invested unfortunately
Eh. It's going to fail no matter what.
Too many people have decided what the lore is and will be outraged by even the slightest deviation from it. People will find fault with any and every aspect of the game play. The story will disappoint many people.
On top of which is an entire industry based on outrage that needs constant feeding.
BL4 will fail because more people will find satisfaction in it failing than in it succeeding.
Last chance???
Yes! i very much agree about the useless amount of weapon in borderlands 3 and i want an end game content not DLC, but a real proper end game. i kinda hate arena end game content like the borderlands 2 digistruct peak. they miss a big opportunity in BL3, where we were given 4 planets but still lack content the mission feels like: "'Hi, do this, bye", like in Athena where the point of that place is just to pick up Maya and Ava. i dont expect BL4 to be an Open world but at least make the area more explorable.
@soulverse8622 I definitely feel that Borderlands 3 lacks a lot of explorability, and yea despite us having 4 dlc 'planets' we didn't get any new endgame content with them. Though there is still a bunch to do for BL3's endgame
@ i seen the teaser/trailer for bl4 on steam, it seems it might have the same mistake as bl3 giving many planets/world but not much else, lets hope im wrong.
@soulverse8622 from what I've gathered through the little info we have, I think, and HOPE that we're mostly going to be on the planet that is featured in the trailer
I just want good writing
@@gamescape7758 me too
Biggest mistake they could make? Letting Randy Pitchford take the wheel again. He was lucky to catch lightning in a bottle twice with BL1 and BL2, everything since then has been pretty solid, but not legendary like the first two games were.
Much deserved shade aside, I think one of the biggest mistakes they could make is to not let the story take itself seriously; I think the biggest testament to how important it is for the story to take itself seriously is the contrast between Handsome Jack and the Calypso twins in how much of a threat they are treated as by the team. Jack was a threat at every step, plans against him backfire, small gains are lost again quickly, and the entire tone of "If this goes right, we might have a shot" that carries throughout makes his eventual demise an underdog story, where with the Calypso twins, it's just 'Ugh, get of a load of these assholes, amirite?' instead of the calypso twins being taken as any sort of threat; sure, everyone admits that they're dangerous, but there's no point where the team is merely hoping that they can take them down, there's no narrative stakes because everyone is so confident they can win, and even when that burns them, instead of having that be a hinge point where their strategy shifts, they just keep 'running towards the fire' since the one time they *did* get burned, they still ultimately progressed in their plans against Troy and Tyreen.
@Aderon I mean, having a better writing can certainly help the game out, And I do think that Borderlands 3's was subpar. Having a good story will only get them so far though, most of Borderlands is played at the endgame. Meaning that once you've gotten your 4 characters to max level the story has pretty much 0 bearing on the game anymore.
My theory is that the reason for BL3's crappy story is that it wasn't really meant to be about the story. A Dev has gone on record saying that the reason for no great war in 3 was because they wanted to expand the world first before they did that. So my guess is they kind of just made A story that exists as a narrative to drive the world building. As if you dig deeper than the main story, there's a lot of more important lore/implications through the games challenges, and collectibles. It certainly seems like BL3's story put the comic relief above anything else, hopefully BL4 fixes that.
Did fatal mistakes 3 times already lol..
@andythoms8130 they weren't fatal at that point, it's the fact that they've been done 3 times already that'll make it fatal for Borderlands 4
They need to take notes from Dragon Age Veilgaurd and understand that they need to write a story for gamers and not a modern audience.
"Modern Audience" will DOA this. Not bothering with Gearbox anymore.
Also the story in BL3 was fuckin garbage. Again BL2 had a great story that I will always continue to replay especially with the options of overpowered playthroughs with increased difficulty and better loot drop chance
Please get rid of LASERS!!!!! All that garbage covering my screen and taking away the wasteland vibe is killing the game
Visual pollution is a big issue all around that I hope gets addressed in BL4
@ConstantCanadian yea on console you can't turn it down or off
@@kingamongmen7455 I don't think there's a way on PC either. Unless there's a mod for it? I'm not sure though
Honestly BL3 made it too easy to get legendary drops in my opinion. Don't get me wrong I love getting legendary drops, but when I can get 3+ legendaries within 5 minutes of getting on the game that's a lil overkill. BL2 was the absolutely perfect fuckin game, idk what changes or why but if Gearbox can get back to the BL2 model this game will probably sell more copies than any game ever
BL2 is not perfect.
Women Empowerment, Ava, DEI and Modren Audience can demolish it
Anything Woke will kill it I could barely stand playing Tiny Tina's Wonderlands and AVA was pure garbage to the story I'll be waiting to see how bad it is along with how unfinished it is still remember grinding a weapon then after a hot-fix or update and it's garbage now all those hours wasted no thanks Please FINISH the game before release
The Borderlands franchise is already dead.
A 4th part will be the tombstone!