A week before Christmas I purchased a 2020 M4 cab comp with 6k on the clock in San Marino blue with white ivory leather, loads of carbon & with the bigger brakes👌
You’re having too much fun to let it go by the looks of it, looks like a very solid daily and you made some good points about how it suits you. I would go for it man!
Great review JB, really get a sense of what it’s like with the car. I’ve heard much about how little grip they have at the rear and how stiffly they are setup. Guess I gotta go and try one!
Couldn't have asked for a better time for this video JB, as I'm in the market for a "cheap" M4 or 440i. A 14 plate M4 goes for roughly the same price as a 17/18 plate 440i so I'm stuck on what I should get. M4 definitely the better drivers car, but the 440i will be more suited for somebody like me who lives in a city in constant stop start traffic.... but still, an M4 is an M4 😂😂 Guess it will all come down to the difference in running costs between the two. Personally what would you rather have, JB? Sick content as per usual btw 👊🏾
I would always feel like I had skimped out if I went for the 440i over the M4 - I know they're very similar on performance, but I would see someone in an M4 and think to myself "why didn't I just get the M4" considering the similar price! I didn't get the same feeling regarding the M4 and the Comp, which is a benefit too - so I reckon the M4 is definitely the one to go for!
@@CarsWithJB That's a very good point actually! Main reason why I am considering the 440i is due to the fact that I personally find it a lot nicer sounding than the M4 imho. But I can definitely see looking up to the M4 as like a big brother to the 440i which is can be off putting.
If there's someone out there looking for a bargain RWD BMW sports car, I hugely recommend the Z4 3.0si. Beautifully balanced, comfy for long journeys with a fantastic manual gearbox and available from around £8k. Basically getting a much more comfortable Z4M for less than half the price 😎
@@shelbyhaiketic4212 ...Im too scared of it too find out. There isn't much out there that beats in a straight line. Will try a couple of M4 track days, in someone else's car, to get to grips with it 😊
i had an estate c63s 205 and i could get 35mpg on motorway and 25 combined and its emisions are even better than the M4 engine.. I'm swaping my 6 series vert and currently leaning towards the E rather than F but the major engine related problems inherent in the E is puting me off a bit
what do you think of a 440/435i of the same era as a ‘cheaper’ option of the M4? and the potential that it may have when remapped or with other upgrades?
Interestingly the 440i isn't depreciating like the M4 at the moment so there's hardly a price difference. Personally I prefer the engine sound hugely too. Different handling, braking, etc though- along with different running costs. On an entirely non-objective note, if I see someone in an M4 I instantly assume they're a nobhead, whereas a 440i not so much (although it's still a BMW so...).
@@yg78t76t7 of course, a 440/435 cannot compare to the M4 when stock. however they still have decent power and would potentially be a good start for someone who simply does not yet have the money to pay for, insure, tax and run an M4.
I have one already F83 M4 white exterior with red leather interior on factory oem 763M’s gold and there’s still nothing I would like to trade for because here in the San Francisco BayArea it hardly ever rains last year it only rained twice and I don’t want a new one because the new ones are ragtop and they don’t make convertible teslas
Does seem like a bargain, but I suppose the obvious comment is- why are they depreciating so much? Especially when the car market in general is insane at the moment. When I bought my porker last year, I shortlisted the M4 and a cheaper one would have cost me pretty much exactly the same as the 981CS- £30k. Now the M4 is £25k and mine is £35k...I'm not trying to draw any conclusions without researching it, but clearly the market doesn't like these and there's got to be a good reason for that. All that said, they do look really good in any form. Sound is way worse than an I6 should be (M440i sounds nicer), interior is poor for a car of the price and they have all the wear and reliability issues for BMWs of the era. They're plenty comfy, practical and fun to drive though so overall I feel like they might be the best choice for someone who wants a sports car but needs the rear seats.
Ranked by carwow as the 14th most unreliable car of the past 10 years based on warranty claims. My boss had one, and an X6 M after, neither of which did he keep that long.
@@detailingshorts885 and thats why in the US so many people crash hellcats... You cant just start off with 700hp.. apprently the hellcat engines and are the most and probably only reliable engines FCA makes... But you never see them with high mileage because most crash them way before even crossing 50k miles
30k for a 6 year old car, you will probably want to spend another 5k at least for new tyres, brakes, shocks, bushes, wheel bearings and enjoy your drive :)
it sounds so bad ijust cant do it! id rather take a big risk on an E93 lol. Great car apart from that soundtrack which makes almost lose my lunch every time ihear it. Nice white interior btw
Quality of these videos some how continues to constantly improve every single one keep it up JB !!
Cheers Adam!
A week before Christmas I purchased a 2020 M4 cab comp with 6k on the clock in San Marino blue with white ivory leather, loads of carbon & with the bigger brakes👌
You’re having too much fun to let it go by the looks of it, looks like a very solid daily and you made some good points about how it suits you. I would go for it man!
Haha it was definitely tough giving it back to the owner! Glad I got the experience though and definitely food for thought 👀
One of my favourite cars, hope one day I can afford one nice review jb!
I back you to get there boss!
Good video, one thing - it weighs around 250 Kg more than the coupe. That is not “slightly more”, it’s a huge amount more.
Yes bro levelling up! Your getting better with every upload ✊🏿
Haha appreciate it man! Doing my best
I was just watching 1 of your old videos then this pops up!!!....Nice!!!😎
Haha hope you enjoyed!
I own the F83 since 2015. Daily drive + occasional track. 0 issue so far. More reliable than my Lexus LX.
Nice to see you away from the PC and behind the wheel. Get them Doug De muro numbers of subscribers
Great review JB, really get a sense of what it’s like with the car. I’ve heard much about how little grip they have at the rear and how stiffly they are setup. Guess I gotta go and try one!
Definitely try to get a go in one and experience for yourself! They're super fun for sure
Absolute quality video! More like these!!!
Appreciate it boss, glad you thought so!
Couldn't have asked for a better time for this video JB, as I'm in the market for a "cheap" M4 or 440i. A 14 plate M4 goes for roughly the same price as a 17/18 plate 440i so I'm stuck on what I should get. M4 definitely the better drivers car, but the 440i will be more suited for somebody like me who lives in a city in constant stop start traffic.... but still, an M4 is an M4 😂😂 Guess it will all come down to the difference in running costs between the two. Personally what would you rather have, JB? Sick content as per usual btw 👊🏾
I would always feel like I had skimped out if I went for the 440i over the M4 - I know they're very similar on performance, but I would see someone in an M4 and think to myself "why didn't I just get the M4" considering the similar price! I didn't get the same feeling regarding the M4 and the Comp, which is a benefit too - so I reckon the M4 is definitely the one to go for!
@@CarsWithJB That's a very good point actually! Main reason why I am considering the 440i is due to the fact that I personally find it a lot nicer sounding than the M4 imho. But I can definitely see looking up to the M4 as like a big brother to the 440i which is can be off putting.
I had the same delima and went M4- if you get a 440, you will regret it every time you see an m4
If there's someone out there looking for a bargain RWD BMW sports car, I hugely recommend the Z4 3.0si. Beautifully balanced, comfy for long journeys with a fantastic manual gearbox and available from around £8k. Basically getting a much more comfortable Z4M for less than half the price 😎
Very fair, and I love the coupes!
Finally bit the bullet and bought myself a 2017 M4 competition convertible..... Wish i had done it sooner I absolutely love it!
Must be a Garry thing, So have I .
@@garrycurrid3297 ...Enjoy, its a wonderful thing 😄
Is it too heavy or does it still feel like a beast in the corners ?
@@shelbyhaiketic4212 ...Im too scared of it too find out. There isn't much out there that beats in a straight line. Will try a couple of M4 track days, in someone else's car, to get to grips with it 😊
Thankyou buddy! Most informative!!
Glad it was helpful!
Nice work bro
Cheers!
i had an estate c63s 205 and i could get 35mpg on motorway and 25 combined and its emisions are even better than the M4 engine.. I'm swaping my 6 series vert and currently leaning towards the E rather than F but the major engine related problems inherent in the E is puting me off a bit
awesome content youll crack 100k subs this year with vids like this...
Hope so!
My neighbour used to have one. On a cold start it sounded like a bag of hammers in a cement mixer.
what do you think of a 440/435i of the same era as a ‘cheaper’ option of the M4? and the potential that it may have when remapped or with other upgrades?
Interestingly the 440i isn't depreciating like the M4 at the moment so there's hardly a price difference. Personally I prefer the engine sound hugely too. Different handling, braking, etc though- along with different running costs.
On an entirely non-objective note, if I see someone in an M4 I instantly assume they're a nobhead, whereas a 440i not so much (although it's still a BMW so...).
M4 is an M car. Just remember that.
@@yg78t76t7 of course, a 440/435 cannot compare to the M4 when stock. however they still have decent power and would potentially be a good start for someone who simply does not yet have the money to pay for, insure, tax and run an M4.
Im not gonna I've been seeing alot of these bmw convertibles around n they look gorgeous
Mate same, I need one!
@@CarsWithJB first the alfa now this i wonder whats next 😂🤔
@@JoshSmith-tw3fk Haha hopefully I can afford both!
@@CarsWithJB what a video tht would be 🤩
Hoping to get mine this year 👊🏼great video mate
I have one already F83 M4 white exterior with red leather interior on factory oem 763M’s gold and there’s still nothing I would like to trade for because here in the San Francisco BayArea it hardly ever rains last year it only rained twice and I don’t want a new one because the new ones are ragtop and they don’t make convertible teslas
The hard top convertible M4 vs the new one? I don't really like the leather convertible top , sun and rain could destroy it
Does seem like a bargain, but I suppose the obvious comment is- why are they depreciating so much? Especially when the car market in general is insane at the moment. When I bought my porker last year, I shortlisted the M4 and a cheaper one would have cost me pretty much exactly the same as the 981CS- £30k. Now the M4 is £25k and mine is £35k...I'm not trying to draw any conclusions without researching it, but clearly the market doesn't like these and there's got to be a good reason for that.
All that said, they do look really good in any form. Sound is way worse than an I6 should be (M440i sounds nicer), interior is poor for a car of the price and they have all the wear and reliability issues for BMWs of the era. They're plenty comfy, practical and fun to drive though so overall I feel like they might be the best choice for someone who wants a sports car but needs the rear seats.
But the serious Q is... should I buy an F83 M4, or an E93 M3... Hmmm
@@CarsWithJB There's no point buying a convertible if it doesn't sound good, so the E93 wins that contest by miles!
@@ApothecaryTerrycan’t you mod it?
I was literally JUST looking at manual convertible M4s (Because I’ll DEFINITELY be able to afford one in the future *sighs*)
I own one of these seem to be a magnet for issues
Really - what issues?
I’ve had mines, same spec for 3 years and had very few issues
Ranked by carwow as the 14th most unreliable car of the past 10 years based on warranty claims. My boss had one, and an X6 M after, neither of which did he keep that long.
Really? Can you reference that ranking- I can’t find it and my experience has been the opposite.
im planning to get this car the m4 variant but hows the roof slope in person and roof reliability cheers man !!
Wow I should have got an m4 i get 30mpg in eco mode mostly at best if I careful drive my 435d convertible. 25mpg round town if I thrash it 😅
Just the video I was looking for, btw just wondering how much would it cost to insure one of these for a new driver under 25
Depends on a lot of factors, but at 25 I could get into one at around £600!
@@CarsWithJB 600... damn why do people complain that they 25 and will be 30 in a couple years... they definitely looking at it the wrong way.
Lol new driver and under 25.. stupid learn to control these first. Thays why insurance is so much
@@detailingshorts885 and thats why in the US so many people crash hellcats... You cant just start off with 700hp.. apprently the hellcat engines and are the most and probably only reliable engines FCA makes... But you never see them with high mileage because most crash them way before even crossing 50k miles
I currently own a e93 but the hard top not worth it
you should get a M4 then take it to evolve
they know there stuff
also M4 is much better for everyday driving than the comp
Yeah that’s a great shout - and agree re daily point, I would only have one as a daily anyway!
@@CarsWithJB big brother for the mx-5
Think this will be my upgrade from my m140i
Definitely worth it!
Similar to the old 3 series coupe roof line to me anyway
How tall are you? Enough space in the Front?
6ft, plenty 🤙🏽
30k for a 6 year old car, you will probably want to spend another 5k at least for new tyres, brakes, shocks, bushes, wheel bearings and enjoy your drive :)
5k for all of that? Your getting ripped a new one
Here from the cheap BMWs video
it sounds so bad ijust cant do it! id rather take a big risk on an E93 lol. Great car apart from that soundtrack which makes almost lose my lunch every time ihear it. Nice white interior btw
What fuel did you put in car bro 😳
99RON - which is within the recommended range so all good!
My cars for sale 65 plate Pearl white cab only 19k miles fully loaded top spec all factory extras, totally standard
Sold it yet?
@@garygrant6220 changed my my mind then, but now it’s winter and I haven’t used it
The colour is silverstone 2 not stone grey
The interior is also silverstone leather
Looks like Gareth potter still has not sold his m4
You could buy 25 polos for that much!
More than 50 Skoda Fabia Estates!
How tall are you bro?
6ft
Nice cars ..saying that this one is a complete dog.....the damage the dodgy placed front plate.
My cousin bought that and crashed it
Nobody looking?... Leave them they're uncultured
*sips tea*
Haha if they're not interested, they're probably not opinions you should care about!
Ah JB shut up 😂😂 why you telling everyone am looking to buy one soon
Init what a clown.
Haha apologies - shooting myself in the foot too as I want one 👀
@@CarsWithJB if we both get one we need to meet up in a car meet some time
Yeah it’s not a bargain when it almost only raining in your country. I live in Belgium so I know what it is. If not four wheel drive I don’t buy it.
Why would I want looks/attention 😂 does anyone over the age of like 21 actually want to show off their car
Watford drivers....
Tell me about it man
The sound is shit though
I wasn't impressed at all with how it sounded 👎
Yeah it’s no V8!
He restarted his sentence on depreciation 3 times
Great review, thanks JB.
Glad you enjoyed it!