I always remember the St Louis Rams offense (Mike Martz). You could probably have a entire showcase around the shifting and motion. That first and second year. Holy shit they were going nuts. Watching all the defender trying to communicate. You can see why they caused so much problems for defenses back then.
I remember reading in one of Bill Walsh's books, I think it was 'Finding The Winning Edge', where he talks about how he used motion and shifting in the West Coast offense. I remember reading how in Super Bowl 23, when the 49ers scored their game-winning touchdown, he put Jerry Rice in motion, the safety, because it was Jerry Rice moved over just a little bit which opened the lane for John Taylor to catch the touchdown. I think John Taylor was playing a tight end position on that play. Walsh was amazing.
I miss playing high school football more than most good things in life. 🏈 Our team was stacked, my school was allowed to travel to the field in the next town over, to play for them, so we had all their guys, plus the best of our school's guys. We only lost one game all year, and that was to a military school. I'm not sure if that military school was made up of guys older than us, or if they were all just that big, and that disciplined and organized. But that military school football team taught us humility. I can only imagine what would have become, if my school didn't drop the program. Either way, some of the best and most formative memories of my life. good times.
Thank you so much for this content! I am a youth football coach with 1 years worth of coaching experience and my playing experience at only the high school level. This video specifically has been helpful for me because our youth football leagues under 10 team's play selection was all spit balled, at best. Now I'm learning concepts, and hopefully this will result in some wins which will be much appreciated by our community next season. Thanks again for what you're doing.
I have listened to your post and podcast for 2-3 years and totally enjoy all of your knowledge and information I must say that I am SHOCKED about your mind set towards motion and shifts???
So many casual fans have no idea how motions, shifts, formations and personnel groupings limit the plays that can be called but they think they know so much about "elite" QB play (i.e. they swear a top tier QB can change any play to whatever he wants to/any play in the playbook).
@@terry7907 those two from the Mike Shanahan coaching tree (along with Matt LaFleur) are some of the main ones whose offensive schemes greatly limit the QB's ability to change plays at the line. Stupid fans blaming Matt Ryan for the SB loss for not checking to run plays when no such checks exist, for instance. You can even link them directly to articles where LaFluer (who was the QB coach under Shanahan in Atlanta) talks about how the offense wasn't designed for the QB to have freedom to audible and they'll still try to argue the point 🤡🤡🤡
Good video! Have you thought about doing a follow-up on the Dolphins offense and how they have used motion in the 2023 season? So far this year they have been the team to use motion the most on passing plays this year, and have seemingly been quite effective in doing so.
I appreciated your perspective as a player, and how motion can muddy things for the QB. As a coach that's an easy thing to forget, as we all tend to think we're whiteboard geniuses. If they can't execute it on the field, then it doesn't matter what it looks like on the board! :) However, years ago (2014), coaching an inside zone based spread to run offense, I compiled some data at the end of the season. We averaged 2 yard per play more when we motioned, regardless of the play call. I've been a fan of motion ever since, particularly in the run game and goal line situations.
Hey JT. I would love to hear your thoughts on how you could utilize motions and shifts to affect what Baltimore is doing on defense. I loved your breakdown on Lamar, and Purdy on the latest game, and I doubled back to watch this video. You’re the pro and I just watched film, Like this course here could really impact what Baltimore is able to do on defense.
I'm watching 👀 the Chief's opening drive in Germany vs the Dolphin's...their first play the motion TOTALLY put the Dolphin's in conflict...all 7 on the back end had to move and communicate! Also, both the Cheif's and Dolphin's motions creates leverage angles and miss matches for the WR's, TE's and RB's!!!
First thing that comes to mind when it comes to play calls with shifts and motions is the John Gruden trying to get Chris Simms to spit out "Scatter to west right tight F-left 372 Y stick Z spot" or the "Green Right X Shift to Viper Right 382 X stick Lookie" something i always liked about the gruden offense is the chaos it caused but i could only imagine the amount of confusion in the huddle as a QB that then has to break the huddle quickly get to the ball go through all the shifts and motions and snap it while keeping track of the defense running around like a chicken with its head cut off
Do you find a big difference between a high school & NFL offense? Are they light years away or similar but you’re dealing with tighter windows? Also, Patriot reports are always saying they dumbed down & run a dink & dunk offense. A defense would just take the short zones away & except for learning less plays, how do you dumb down an offense?
You should practice short stop. Those off body throws. It will help calibrate your brain to making throws of balance. So when the pocket breaks down and other QBs get flustered and lose accuracy. You won’t.
Honestly man, if you just work through this channel's content that would be pretty massive. Im a former LB, so I knew the coverages and the run fit stuff, but JT has helped me learn so much about QB processing, mechanics, route concepts. This is a cool channel, should help you man! Good luck!
I'm a little confused. In the beginning you reference Manning and how he (and you) preferred the clean static look to see what the defense is in. Yet 20 minutes in (little less) you discuss how motion can show you what the defense is in, and that's a strength. I completely buy into motion revealing what the defense is in, so I guess I have a hard time understanding exactly how you knew, from a static formation, the defensive coverage. Is it the basic 2 high vs 3 high, positioning of the CBs kind of thing? Are you narrowing it down pre-snap (2 man or cover 2) and reading it thru post-snap? Completely buying the motion strengths, just a little confused as to how you and that other guy, Peyton something, read the coverage from static formations. Also a huge fan of how Shanahan uses motion in the run game. I swear he's got 20 different ways to call a classic Lombardi power sweep without ever pulling both guards. He'll motion the FB or the H and at the snap that player is the essentially the lead guard with another player becoming the trail guard. Awesome stuff JT, thanks for the channel.
I totally disagree that 1. Motion is a waste of energy 2. It takes away from your Vertical Game 3. It's to much to learn! It assist in 1. Reading coverages 2. Forces defense to change on the fly 3. Puts defenders in conflict by creating miss matches 4. Not every pass play is a Vertical pass! The Chief's and Dolphin's are proving that their Jet-Bolt Motion is pretty effective giving WR's, TE's and RB's a leverage advantage!!!
I always remember the St Louis Rams offense (Mike Martz). You could probably have a entire showcase around the shifting and motion. That first and second year. Holy shit they were going nuts. Watching all the defender trying to communicate. You can see why they caused so much problems for defenses back then.
It was cray
I remember reading in one of Bill Walsh's books, I think it was 'Finding The Winning Edge', where he talks about how he used motion and shifting in the West Coast offense.
I remember reading how in Super Bowl 23, when the 49ers scored their game-winning touchdown, he put Jerry Rice in motion, the safety, because it was Jerry Rice moved over just a little bit which opened the lane for John Taylor to catch the touchdown. I think John Taylor was playing a tight end position on that play. Walsh was amazing.
Yes he was
I miss playing high school football more than most good things in life. 🏈
Our team was stacked, my school was allowed to travel to the field in the next town over, to play for them, so we had all their guys, plus the best of our school's guys. We only lost one game all year, and that was to a military school. I'm not sure if that military school was made up of guys older than us, or if they were all just that big, and that disciplined and organized. But that military school football team taught us humility. I can only imagine what would have become, if my school didn't drop the program. Either way, some of the best and most formative memories of my life. good times.
“Red brick wall” ... never forget that crowd chant.. always love checkin in. 🙏
ha
Nice touch with the moving camera in a video about motion
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The Patreon is awesome!
This video was much more interesting than I thought it was going to be !! Nice 👌
Never thought of motion being a negative....
Thank you so much for this content! I am a youth football coach with 1 years worth of coaching experience and my playing experience at only the high school level. This video specifically has been helpful for me because our youth football leagues under 10 team's play selection was all spit balled, at best. Now I'm learning concepts, and hopefully this will result in some wins which will be much appreciated by our community next season. Thanks again for what you're doing.
I have listened to your post and podcast for 2-3 years and totally enjoy all of your knowledge and information I must say that I am SHOCKED about your mind set towards motion and shifts???
So many casual fans have no idea how motions, shifts, formations and personnel groupings limit the plays that can be called but they think they know so much about "elite" QB play (i.e. they swear a top tier QB can change any play to whatever he wants to/any play in the playbook).
McVey and Shanahan have entered the chat, laughing their a**** off.
Crazy that you tried to sound smart but used “I.e.” as for example. It’s e.g. bro go to school
@@terry7907 those two from the Mike Shanahan coaching tree (along with Matt LaFleur) are some of the main ones whose offensive schemes greatly limit the QB's ability to change plays at the line. Stupid fans blaming Matt Ryan for the SB loss for not checking to run plays when no such checks exist, for instance. You can even link them directly to articles where LaFluer (who was the QB coach under Shanahan in Atlanta) talks about how the offense wasn't designed for the QB to have freedom to audible and they'll still try to argue the point 🤡🤡🤡
@@idontwatchfilm no one asked for your useless 2 cents. Try to stay on topic about play calling.
Good video! Have you thought about doing a follow-up on the Dolphins offense and how they have used motion in the 2023 season? So far this year they have been the team to use motion the most on passing plays this year, and have seemingly been quite effective in doing so.
I appreciated your perspective as a player, and how motion can muddy things for the QB. As a coach that's an easy thing to forget, as we all tend to think we're whiteboard geniuses. If they can't execute it on the field, then it doesn't matter what it looks like on the board! :) However, years ago (2014), coaching an inside zone based spread to run offense, I compiled some data at the end of the season. We averaged 2 yard per play more when we motioned, regardless of the play call. I've been a fan of motion ever since, particularly in the run game and goal line situations.
Same every year since?
@@TheQBSchool Unfortunately I don't have that data. I'll make it a point to track it this year.
Thank you J.T. This channel is just awesome!!!!
Very cool. Thank you.
Hey JT. I would love to hear your thoughts on how you could utilize motions and shifts to affect what Baltimore is doing on defense. I loved your breakdown on Lamar, and Purdy on the latest game, and I doubled back to watch this video. You’re the pro and I just watched film, Like this course here could really impact what Baltimore is able to do on defense.
Welcome back. This is really, really good.
Awesome. Glad to be back.
I'm watching 👀 the Chief's opening drive in Germany vs the Dolphin's...their first play the motion TOTALLY put the Dolphin's in conflict...all 7 on the back end had to move and communicate!
Also, both the Cheif's and Dolphin's motions creates leverage angles and miss matches for the WR's, TE's and RB's!!!
Thank you!
First thing that comes to mind when it comes to play calls with shifts and motions is the John Gruden trying to get Chris Simms to spit out
"Scatter to west right tight F-left 372 Y stick Z spot" or the "Green Right X Shift to Viper Right 382 X stick Lookie" something i always liked about the gruden offense is the chaos it caused but i could only imagine the amount of confusion in the huddle as a QB that then has to break the huddle quickly get to the ball go through all the shifts and motions and snap it while keeping track of the defense running around like a chicken with its head cut off
Especially, when it was to just throw a flat.
Some nerd is going to come at me sideways... great quote.
I wish you were the QB coach for the Lions. Goff needs you. Go Lions!
Nah.
Do you find a big difference between a high school & NFL offense? Are they light years away or similar but you’re dealing with tighter windows?
Also, Patriot reports are always saying they dumbed down & run a dink & dunk offense. A defense would just take the short zones away & except for learning less plays, how do you dumb down an offense?
As a freshman high schooler what videos do you think would be helpful for me starting out as a QB?
You should practice short stop. Those off body throws. It will help calibrate your brain to making throws of balance. So when the pocket breaks down and other QBs get flustered and lose accuracy. You won’t.
Honestly man, if you just work through this channel's content that would be pretty massive.
Im a former LB, so I knew the coverages and the run fit stuff, but JT has helped me learn so much about QB processing, mechanics, route concepts. This is a cool channel, should help you man! Good luck!
Good idea for vid.
Where does the term 3 by 1 or 2 mean? Whos getting counted,?
I'm a little confused. In the beginning you reference Manning and how he (and you) preferred the clean static look to see what the defense is in. Yet 20 minutes in (little less) you discuss how motion can show you what the defense is in, and that's a strength. I completely buy into motion revealing what the defense is in, so I guess I have a hard time understanding exactly how you knew, from a static formation, the defensive coverage. Is it the basic 2 high vs 3 high, positioning of the CBs kind of thing? Are you narrowing it down pre-snap (2 man or cover 2) and reading it thru post-snap? Completely buying the motion strengths, just a little confused as to how you and that other guy, Peyton something, read the coverage from static formations. Also a huge fan of how Shanahan uses motion in the run game. I swear he's got 20 different ways to call a classic Lombardi power sweep without ever pulling both guards. He'll motion the FB or the H and at the snap that player is the essentially the lead guard with another player becoming the trail guard. Awesome stuff JT, thanks for the channel.
Talking about how you don’t like motion while your camera is in motion.
🤯🤯🤯
I totally disagree that 1. Motion is a waste of energy 2. It takes away from your Vertical Game 3. It's to much to learn!
It assist in 1. Reading coverages 2. Forces defense to change on the fly 3. Puts defenders in conflict by creating miss matches 4. Not every pass play is a Vertical pass!
The Chief's and Dolphin's are proving that their Jet-Bolt Motion is pretty effective giving WR's, TE's and RB's a leverage advantage!!!
When u say motion a quarterback out what do u mean sprint out waggle?
No.
And motion will pull a defender out of his normal position to be able to throw the ball in that hole that he vacated!
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@@TheQBSchool sorry coach, I can only work with what I got 😁