HasanAbi reacts to Can YOU Fix Climate Change? by Kurzgesagt - In a Nutshell
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- HasanAbi reacts to Can YOU Fix Climate Change? by @kurzgesagt. Will HasanAbi finally go vegan to safe the plant from the imminent climate crisis?!
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hasan is kinda dumb there at the end. What is the science channel gonna do? tell the viewer to perform a proletariat uprising?
Maybe tell the viewer things that actually do work for solving climate change? There are more methods than those mentioned
@@edmondjoseph1637 it's a short summary video, not a lecture.
I mean, actual scientists have specifically called for radical departure from capitalism.
I would argue its unethical to consiously avoid politics when talking climate change science.
@@edmondjoseph1637 which methods did they miss? Realistically we can only vote for parties that advocate for climate policy
If it was a science channel, then don't propose a political solution at all. Instead, they promoted a liberal, individualistic understanding of climate change policy and change.
Gotta love how Hasan straight out forgot there are other countries with somewhat functional democracies
Lmao true. He thinks the video is talking about just americs.
To be fair, Canada and The U.S. are the biggest and most internationally powerful of these democratic societies. And of course Hasan talks most about america...he lives there
@@justininvader156 EU is arguably as important as US on world stage and it had an half good democracy
@@U.F.R.G fair point
@@justininvader156 US sure but Canada?? Germany, UK, France, Japan...the list goes on.
The switch on chat when they talked about rice being 1.3% of total greenhouse, and everyone starting pepelaugh, just to get rolled by the 57% of green gases produced by animals and all the vegans started to hasflex.
57% of food emissions not total green house emissions
@@Mochasin 26% is the total food emissions of global CO2,
so it's 1.3% of Global emissions for rice,
and 57% of 26% ( 14.82% ) of global emissions for meat
not eating meat will not help the climate
@@bearwynn that's worth it
@@ongobongo8333 BS
I like how both Hasan and Kurgusast are making the same argument about climate change and are even making the same exact points. Both mention the BP ad campaign to shift claim and both mention that I’d you can see this video now your a part of the problem. Yet Husan hates kurgasat just because he decided to hate them and they dared to say there was a democratic solution. Does he realize Kurgasat is German where there are multiple parties. 13 separate parties have seats in in the highest levels of government. They also have much higher labor union participation that Hasan is advertising for
Hasan probably just thought about American POV I assume (the react was also pretty much at the end of the stream (7h in))
Yeah I don't know much about Germany so it may be plausible but in America and other similar nations it's a laughable solution
Silly kurzgesagt, don't they know America = the world?
@@deathonion404 haha true!!!
the differing opinions were about the solution, not the problem. Hasan's solution is the abolition of capitalism, Kurg's video does the opposite of promote that. Hasan is advocating to organize leftist groups and unity, not "vote with your wallet"
I really dislike how Hasan handles topics like this. The entire video he keeps pausing to shit on the video only the have the video say the exact same thing he said 20 seconds later, then when we come to the conclusion and opinion piece on what to do about it Hasan says that will never work, you shouldn't bother trying, all while offering nothing else as a solution. It's like he's just given up on the subject as he apparently is also anti violent revolution and thus has no ideas at all on how to tackle the problem.
I enjoy a ton of his content, and he has some fantastic takes, but he really needs to come at the environmental approach differently because he currently adds nothing besides being anti vegan.
Yeah I’ve never once heard Hasan ever actually propose a solution to climate change except the overthrow of capitalism. I hate to say it, but that probably will never happen in the US and if it did, it’d be way to late to make any kind of impact.
Hasan has advocated for a carbon tax and decommodifying the energy sector so profit incentives will not sway people to ignore anthropogenic climate change. He talks about this on stream all the time outside of this RUclips clip. These short term goals aren't the "violent revolution" so many people strawman communists as being an advocate for (since Hasan isn't an ML)
@@traplover6357 don't those solutions line up with this video though? Thoes are absolutely things we should do, but Hasan says no to violent revolution which means voting and systemic change are the only ways to implement them which is exactly what the video asks for.
@@shift1109 There's protests and strikes, too. The point is that the system we have currently is too corrupt to do anything, so the best bet is to change the system, nor try to work within it.
He probably also cannot say he’s for violent revolution because he will no longer get paid if he promotes violence.
That sponsor at the end tho 🤣
I literally screamed, “noOOOOO, you ruined the whole video” when I saw that sponsorship. Way to never bring over the crazies.
I'm not there yet, gonna guess Soros or the Gate's foundation?
@@slartibartfast2977 ding ding ding
@@EroticInferno is it that bad to recognize the rich that at least cares somewhat for the sake of the planet?
It not surprising why "Other" economic systems were so downplayed as a solution. Also why lobbying groups and Super PAC's funded by Billionaires weren't brought up as a contributing factor to obstruction of popular climate change legislation.
i feel like hasan doesn't pay attention to the videos he watches a lot and then reads his chat and attributes dumb takes to what the video is saying. he pauses all the time so he doesn't get to hear a full argument. He doesn't understand that Kurzgesagt is saying the same shit as him, they advocate for systemic change, but this video is about what YOU PERSONALLY can do, and the reality is not much.
Ostonox is on the Kurzgesat writing team and added the segment about meat specifically to trigger Hasan.
Wait really?
@@cybervoid8442 no
@@cybervoid8442 yea
Can someone explain why Hasan seems to dislike kurzgesagt so much? He said they were usually making "lib videos"? I've watched all of their videos and honestly never felt they took a political stance. They just present science in a nice format.
I think it's the fact what they present contradicts what they are. They're a big corp preaching progressive ideology, like contradictory? Not 100% sure but that's my guess.
Because he's a grifter who says what people who watch him want to hear for donations and gets angry/jealous when someone who actually researches a topic makes a valid point.
Yea, I actually think its more valuable that it isn't taking a stance politically. It only talks about the issues directly and implores people to be curious about them. If it was just outright "Yea, F the Republicans, you have to vote Dem", it would INSTANTLY turn away the people who are really the ones who need to see it, even if the direct advocacy is the better choice. Letting Republican voters discover how Republicans harm the environment through their policies, after they have been made aware of that they SHOULD care about the environment, is far more de-radicalizing than trying to force the information down their throats.
@@whitexflash they aren't preaching an ideology, they present well researched science. It is up to the viewer to reconcile the information with their political beliefs.
@@steven95N the grifter attacks are always my favourite since there almost always completely meaningless lol
Why are so many people upset with the video? I don't feel like Kurzgesagt said anything that would benefit large corporations but rather presented the truth in a very honest way. Yes I know the sponsor sucks but Kurzgesagt made clear (if you believe them) that their sponsors don't have influence on their scripts and opinions. Did they say or not say something in the video that is wrong or something? Let me know (actually interested)
Because people here believe that Hasan is god and anything he says is 100 right thing. And Hasan is dissing kurzgesagt for no reason.
@@vibhore753 I was really annoyed at his "imma for someone who says that they respect science but then don't do anything" like wtf? What else are you supposed to do? Should we end democracy and not vote? I really don't understand
@@slavioli this is first video where I am like wtf is Hasan talking about?
The bit about tight profit margins yet having trillions while whining about it.
@@vibhore753 Yeah I'm legit confused about this reaction from Hasan. It seems like he's complaining about things that were never said in the video. Kurzgesagt is one of the least biased channels in my opinion, the point is to look at the information they present and form a personal opinion on it.
I find this issue and video interesting since it shows the divide in Hasan’s audience. A decent portion are social democractic liberal types while the other portion are anti-capitalist leftists. Just an interesting observation.
I’m surprised there are so many Libs to be honest. Did they think Hasan’s Communist aesthetic was just an aesthetic? lol
@@inca6412 Many socdems watch leftist content creators but they have to gradually convert away from their capitalism realism syndrome the more they watch.
Given that liberalism is the more popular ideology overall, it's a good thing to blur the lines between it and anti-capitalism. It allows leftist ideas to sneak into mainstream discourse.
@@Soleilune1995 100% agree!
@@inca6412 i was a socdem, don't worry, if a socdem is watching content like the ones from Hasan soon they will be full on communists
Thanks Hasan for agreeing with everything but still being mad.
I'd be mad too if I paused every 60 seconds to respond to idiots in chat
"We don't know how to sustainably feed ourselves and we aren't trying very hard to learn."
@Are You Going To Do The 'Ora Ora' Thing? Try publicly funded research
@Are You Going To Do The 'Ora Ora' Thing?"Capitalism is also what drives research in climate science" this is literally wrong, like did you forget that oil companies have known about their effect on the climate for literally decades and have actively tried to stop and discredit any of that information from disseminating to the public. On what planet do you think that the fossil fuel industry is driving research into climate science, if anything history has shown us that they are doing the exact OPPOSITE of that.
The thing about this video that irks me and Hasan is that the video presents Clinate Change as an issue that capitalism can solve, and that our totally trustable institutions can fix it. But that is far from the truth. Capitalism, a system built on short term gains focuses more on less sustainable energy for profit. Those that benefit from that energy lobby government to get what they want, so in a way I guess certain people are 'voting with their wallet'
The argument is free markets. I think we all agree that the government is keeping these industries alive so a free market would basically put these polluting industries at risk. Look at Tesla and how successful its been. Legacy car manufacturers lobbied the government to limit the development of electric cars, but the market demanded them so the industry is shifting toward electric. Had the government refused to be influenced by car manufactures/oil companies and let the market do its job, we may have developed EV's much quicker. That said, I believe Free Markets can be a solution, but it is a long term solution for an immediate problem.
@@FloofyMinari EVs are a horrible solution. It's just rehashing the same, failed infrastructure. We need more public transit. Anything less is extremely wasteful. A free market will do nothing if the choices are limited and the public uneducated. Tesla is still just another for profit company trying to get your money. Nothing else. They don't give a shit about the environment as they've shown through their countless attempts to peddle their electric vehicles as the solution to mass transit.
@@danielr9708 I gave Tesla as an example of a business filling the demand in a market and breaking through big lobbyist groups who opposed it. EV's are a better alternative than Gas cars regardless on your views on the company or what is a more effective green strategy.
The video demands heavy regulation and forcing business to comply so I don't see how it's saying we need "capitalism" for this.
@@shift1109 Actually to quote the video "There is no reason that the profit interests of industries could not match the need to reduce carbon emissions as much as possible" Also socialism/anticapitalism isn't when regulations
Hassan's point, about organizing over violence, is the point.
yeah but never gonna happen. we're all just gonna die
Cringe. let’s do eco terrorism. Got some ticking packages to mail? I got you dawg
What does that even mean? Revolutionary Labor organizing sometimes require "violence. Then what? Soc Dem moment.
@@chicox3me when has violence ever done anything but harm to the climate reform movement?
Literally all violence ever accomplishes is pushing the public opinion even further away from agreeing with you. You become the bad guy, and everything you believe in becomes evil. Terrible strategy.
Hasan is literally a Conservative when it come to meat. So cringe.
Kurzgesagt is german (I think), where democracy works better and people have more options, including a green party. So that might influence their voting take.
As a German who just voted in yesterday's elections, trust me, our system is shit too and does not produce better results in this regard in the slightest. The Green party is a joke, they are neoliberal, pro-corporate hacks who do nothing but virtue signal but never address the real systemic issue behind climate change which is capitalism and the profit motive. Instead they do stupid counterproductive shit like get Germany to ban nuclear energy which is our single best hope of mitigating CO2 emissions in the short term. Germany decided to shut down its nuclear power plants and instead rely even more on coal. We are actively making this problem worse. The Greens, the Conservatives, the Social Democrats and the Liberals are all virtually indistinguishable in Germany, they are the four largest parties and they are all just various flavors of socdem market liberal. Between them they got 75% of the total vote and another 10% went to the far right AfD, a xenophobic party full of neonazis and bigots.
Only 5% went to the Left party, which isn't even revolutionary or communist, it's just the only one critical of capitalism and imperialism in any way, and even they are just moderate reformists who constantly compromise and have to dilute their platform to not get completely ostracized, which they still do a lot of the time since two of the four major parties flat out refuse to work with them and the other two are extremely wary of being seen as friendly to the Left.
Any party that gets less than 5% does not get into the Parliament.
Long story short Germany is pretty much fucking hopeless. The mindset of the people here sucks, they are extremely conservative (in the sense that they just want to keep the liberal soc dem status quo) and centrist, they are totally indoctrinated into capitalist realism, they benefit from welfare systems that are funded by profits gained from imperialism in the global south (and even imperialism inside the EU against poorer countries who get fucked by the rich ones).
Also our media sucks and they constantly propagandize against the Left, and also our unions suck and are completely defanged, constantly work together with bosses instead of against them, and they are heavily restricted by the government and can only strike in pre-approved ways for pre-approved things.
@@transsylvanian9100 Die Grüne ist neoliberal? Komm aus deiner linken Bubble raus.
@@transsylvanian9100 Hey Kumpel kommst du aus blödmannshausen?
I'm not into eco terrorism but vote at the ballot and with you wallet is not enough. Also, I'm kind of disappointed Kurzgesagt didn't talk more about degrowth.
Edit: For those interested in degrowth, read Jason Hickel. It's not about going backwards, it's about shifting to a post-growth economy.
I think for a lot of less engaged(and also their sponsors) de-growth is a harder concept to sell
Try selling the idea of degrowth to low income and poor countries and middle income countries
degrowth is fun when you are from us or Europe tell that to Africa , SA, India, Indonesia and so on where people are dying because of lack of growth. Eu and NA is mainly responsible for the co2 emission and made money out of it, now you want smaller and poor countries to make sure they remain poor. Yeah fair enough, it is great to say this when you commenting while having a good stake and ac on. :)
I do a lot of climate change activism stuff and de-growth is pretty fringe. Most people are counting on electrification and regenerative agriculture
@@ChadPANDA... i live in a poor country and yes, you can sell it. No one hates planned obsolescence more than poor people, we can't afford a new phone every 3 years. Good public transport is cheaper and faster than cars, so you can guess who enjoys it more. This are just some examples about how degrowth can make things better for people with low income. Also, a lot of countries that talk about climate change are poor, this is because poor countries will suffer the effect of climate change more than richer ones.
The bill Gates sponsorship explains why they were able to basically identify the problem but then had to obfuscate and avoid actually stating it clearly with its proper solution
They didnt obfuscate its solution. They told you: vote at the ballot and vote with your dollar. Do everything you can, no matter how small, go vegan, take public transport and walk as much as you can and at the same time organise and fight for systemic change. make sure politicians cant get away with sweeping climate change under the rug or dragging thier feet. I dont see what is so obfuscated.
Alright, so.... Do you have the answer? I'm curious.
@@angusmarch1066 Might be easier if the 100 billion dollars Gates clearly doesn't need was funneled toward these projects instead of meagerly discarded to selfishly boost his philanthropic image.
@@QilinReggae very true, but remember philanthropy is also "lib shit" so if you are being honest, you probably wouldnt be satisfied with that either. The way I see it, Kurzgesagt had something of a solution. Was it a perfect solution? Not by a mile, but it was a damn sight better than Hasan's solution which was "errrr just errr organise! Annnd errrr....organise!".
@@angusmarch1066 "vote at the ballot and vote with your dollar." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The main thing is: Kurzgesagt has a very POLICY minded mindset. They care primarily about WHAT is done, not the system in which that is achieved. The reason their advice is kinda trash is because it´s not really their focus.
And the same is true for many leftists: a lot of them care principly much more about HOW decision are arrived versus WHAT decisions those are.
the first sentence is a very good thing. When you go for violent revolutions of sorts, you just cause sufferings with supply chain disruptions for atleast years to come whilst breaking everything that also worked.
Maybe the problem is that people like Hasan don't have a policy mindset at all.
Its the best we can do, everyone is not going too agree, and thats a fact, so we can only go by what we got. We got laws and policies, so we must do are best too solve it with what we hot as people are not going tpo get rid of it. Dosent matter if people are idiots, or think its fake, we should at least die trying, and at best we win, as its pointless too worry if it fails.
FYI, Happy British Voice is the worst way to talk about pending Apocalypse cause no one takes it seriously. Might I recommend Dour German Voice?
Seriously. Bet they didn't even *try* to get Werner Herzog to do it.
I guess Hassan is failing to understand that, if we were as scandalous against climate change detractors as we are to your usual Twitter drama instigators, maybe we could see a dent being made on the issue. If you just sit back, laugh at the argument, and brush it off because of isolated past examples without adding onto the idea pile, you are effectively a part of the problem.
Lefty Doomerism is only a part of the journey before they make their way to understanding democratic legislation, if only they had 5% of the motivation the far right has...
The crossover episode I never imagine I needed but now want more of❤️ two of my fav channels
He's done more.
@@degummybear naw what I needa see
@@eugenioalvarez3718 The one on arguments for and against legalizing weed. And some other ones.
i mean in germany, where kurzgesagt is from, you have multiple parties to choose from and the elections are very soon
Hasan just looked at that vote point in a very American way even tho this channel isn't American
edit: although u gotta admit that even our leftist and green parties don't do much and you really don't know what you should vote bc it feels like every politician is incompetent
Most green parties are not very influential because people dont vote for them.
The green party is actually pretty progressive on lots of issues. People have just had a chance to vote in politicians in Germany who would do more about climate change, but utterly failed to rise to the occasion, wanting to preserve the status quo instead. Which doesn't mean that it's a bad thing to try, but that it's hopeless if people like Hasan work against it.
Love how the video starts with “i gotta pee ill be right back” while the video is still playing 🤣 10/10 reacc
the ending was perfect lmao
I guess I still liked the vid bc it does counter the more neoliberal narrative of significant climate action through individual consumption behaviour and personal responsibility which seems rather prevalent in the public discourse. There is a lot of pertinent information regarding the reality of modern global industry and political economy (or at least it is being hinted at) which should serve as somewhat of a discourse changer.
That being said I guess where the vid hits its limits are the methods of action endorsed by liberal democracy more generally: Voting (with an emphasis on representative over direct) and maybe your occasional peaceful protest. Nothing on methods based on labour power (striking, slacking, etc.) has likely even been considered, and even it has, they likely would have had to keep it out for legal reasons alone given that "political strikes" are already criminalized in many countries (like my home country Germany for example). Makes you think.
And then the Gates sponsorship at the end. Only fair to have that leave a bad taste in your mouth. There is no reason to think that these things happen without a demand for narrative influence on some level. Although in all likelihood it is not as blatant as direct dictating and censorship of content, moreso a general narrative framework with subliminal limits backed up by a complete discretion to give or withdraw funding.
And even if it was all just downstream from Gates' self-written script, the whole vid should not be disregarded as complete counter-propaganda bc of that. To the contrary, most of what is being said is refreshingly accurate and salient in spite of the sponsorship. It is moreso about what is _not_ being said.
I totally agree with you
I mean but they're right, the only realistic thing you can do is vote and to be fair, there's nothing else they can advocate for otherwise bye-bye sponsors sadly but yeah the bill gates sponsor definitely leaves a sour taste to the video lol
" "political strikes" are already criminalized in many countries (like my home country Germany for example)" Wait, WHAT? You're not allowed to protest the government in Germany???
@@Vesta_the_Lesser I am talking about strikes, not just protests. Ofc those are fairly unrestricted.
So "political" strikes in this case mean strikes that are explicitly targeting anything _besides_ employment contract negotiations that have been officially declared and are backed up by state-recognized unions.
So for example that already excludes wildcat strikes even if they are not "political" in this very narrow sense.
And beyond that it excludes strike efforts for any other issue, be it regarding climate policy, civil rights, foreign policy, what have you.
On top of that German civil society is divided into three legally-binding castes based on profession. The highest of these, called "Beamte", are prohibited from _all_ strike action in their workplaces, full stop. These include many public officials and well-respected professions deemed essential (physicians, professors, many teachers, etc. and pretty much anyone working in the public sector who makes an upper middleclass income).
For all the progress Germany is lauded with regarding labour issues, it has an incredibly repressive strike law in international comparison.
Part of the reason for this is some juridical precedent from the Nazi era. Pretty sus, right?
Germany has completely sterilized its pathways for labour action. It is certainly well possible, but only within the narrow limits pre-approved by the government.
@@vantahawk2834 Out of curiosity, do you have any source material for these laws?
That "Wow" at the end. 🤣🤣🤣
Yes, imagine a f'ing billionaire like Gates supporting more progressive ideas than Hasan.
Idk how you guys watch this guy, i like his politics but holy shit this guy is just pushes my buttons
The animation style they use is nice, ngl.
Man I feel for Hasan, he's starting to get as jaded as I was when I was on FB everyday
You could have a RUclips channel explain how to solve cancer and you would still have 25% of chat doing “ painschamp “ or “ monkalib video “
Just saw this video and am now excited for his reaction
Yes fellow robot.
Sad you will be disappointed
@@vibhore753 no disappointment for me, had a good time
@@JCH_BEATS :s??
Pre-watch Andy over here
ind another person. Individually add up how much it costs to sustain you and/or your lifestyle and combine what’s left over with them and have them do the same. Each taking turns in spending every other payday.
Your jobs will provide the income and the combined surplus will make it easier to pursue hobbies or climb the societal ladder. Including more and more people will add to the over all supply that each person in the network will have access to, thereby compounding the process.
For added security (insurance) have each person in the network find others to rely on. With that you’ll have overlapping security.
Supplant anything of value to you personally for the “income” portion and as long as you’re covering for yourself first and foremost, all goods (including for luxury) will get distributed across a wider system in accordance to how you relate to other people. Use cost cutting measures to increase any holdings and share information.
With that added insurance, use any and all surplus to invest in people most capable of bringing about change, including local chapters and environmental projects. Tell them about this process and aid them in building up a web of support and you can scale up any system, company or self-governance.
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kurzgesagt: heres our op-
*pause*
hasan: so your opinion is to not change and stay with capitalism. ok dude
This guy kept trying to predict what was going to happen and didn't seem to actually be paying attention, like his mind was already made up
Bruh I just watched this and it’s by far the best video depicting this ever Hasan bro! Hire me my man! Wallowing in MS blues over here 😢 👈
Oh daaaamn Kurzgesagt, finally POG
Love how he brings up rice instead of fossil fuels
Its not a video about america, its a video for the world. I feel like Hasan was talking exclusively from an american perspective
The end is made from a very german perspectiv. We have the Option to vote for the Green Party here. In may it looked like they could win the elections dam it.
Yeah for America, it’s essentially impossible to vote for anyone who isn’t a staunch capitalist.
@@Josef_1186 It has to become mainstream before Democrats adopt it as an acceptable solution.
The green party in germany is a party of virtue signaling neoliberal capitalist shills who actively make climate change worse by being against nuclear power. They are not leftists and them winning seats is no different from any of the other neoliberal shill parties winning seats. The only party that is even just mildly anti-capitalist and anti-imperialist in Germany is the Left party and they got 5% in the elections. The fascists got 10% by the way. That is the deplorable state of German politics.
@@transsylvanian9100 Die Linke is schilling to russia so they are nö solution either
@@lathalassa You mean they refuse to fall in line with the NATO/EU aggression and propaganda against Russia? Yeah, that's a good thing! They are the only major party with a good foreign policy. They are the only ones not falling in line with the imperialist line against Russia and China. They are the only ones who call for solidarity with Palestine against the criminal occupation of the Zionist apartheid state. They are the only ones who don't fall for the bullshit about Iran or Syria, Venezuela or Cuba, they never acknowledged Juan Guaido as so-called "president", they protested the EU support for the fascist coup in Ukraine and the Kiev mafia's war against the Donbass, and they aren't supporting that neonazi Navalny just because he is against Putin.
Foreign policy is their strongest point, it's 90% of the reason i still vote for them. Domestically the Linke compromise too much and are too much of a pushover. I would much rather vote for DKP if there wasn't that shitty 5% rule.
It definitely does a lot more good than harm. For the average liberal, it introduces them to the idea that your personal responsibility for climate change is bullshit, and that systemic approaches with a strong governmental hand are the only thing that can effectively work.
Also, there are a lot of first world countries that have democracies that aren't as broken as the US, where you CAN actually vote for candidates that put in effective carbon taxes, green energy incentives, etc.
Agreed, while i feel like the video could’ve done better in some areas, i feel like ultimately it does more good. Even with the gates sponsorship, they were able to talk about a lot of criticisms that you could apply to bill gates. So the fact that they were able to get away with the stuff they said even with the sponsorship, and spread awareness of climate change with decent ideas that people haven’t been exposed much too is good enough for me.
Edit: also i don’t believe they spread any ideas that are harmful. The worst thing i could think of is them indirectly reinforcing the belief that capitalism is the best shot we got. But i feel that this video is a good enough pathway for people to walk into being more active for stopping climate change.
You do realise that you are a part of the system, right? And that changing human behaviour, especially in a situation like climate reform is also a part of moving toward systemic change? For instance, what do you think would happen if you suddenly banned meat, without educating people about the M&D industry and got them to change thier minds on thier own?
While the first world countries export both polluting industries and trash to countries with less strict labor and environmental laws?
So funny to see all the comments saying "eat the rich" when they don't realize they're literally talking about themselves lmao
I am indian student.
Glasgow was the uk second most important
city.beautiful building,beautiful streets,a gorgeous city. when i see cities like this I think also about the other side of it you know. there's phrase from walter benjamin every monument of civilization is also a monument of barbarism. I think of the famines in bengal. the jute worker in bengal,sending jute to dundee through the glasgow port.I think of human being from africa, enslaved and brought from ghana to the new world and all those profits getting sucked into cities like london and glasgow. you know,between 1765 and 1938,the british stole £45 trillion from india.we never got paid for that.when the british left india, when we threw the british out,our literacy rate was 13%.so much of several 100 years of so- called civilization meanwhile,our landscape were destroyed. you know, coal was foisted on india. you foisted coal on us. you were the ones that came and made us coal dependent.and then you left now you.dare to condescend to us.when I listen to boris johnson,when i listen to joe biden, when i listen even more to emmanuel macron.all I can think of how condescending you are. you condescending to us years ago and today. you only know condescension because for you. you're the one principally to blame. you signed the rio formula in 1992.the united states 4-5% of the world population.still uses 25% of the world resources. you outsource production to china and then you say china is carbon polluter.china is producing your bucket, nuts and bolts,phones. come to our societies.and tell us here the money we are giving you... no,it our money! what future? children in african continent, in asia,in latin america they don't have future.they don't have present! What future? That's middle class bourgeois western slogan. you got to be worried about now!2.7 billion people can't eat now. how does this sound to a child who hasn't eaten in days? This otherwise, the movement will have no legs in the third world.
Oh, I watched this too. This is gonna be a spicy reaction.
25:00 got a better solution?
Ostanox is punching the air rn
This guy is a walking bladder, always has to pee
Hasan talks to early ngl
He just talks and talks and talks.
For a cool mil, seems like most politicians will sell society up the river.
the time has come and so have i
4:35 lololol
i searched access to internet and it says 65%
Hes not talking about america when the video is talking about voting hasan.
I want to work on R&D for tasty lab grown meats! But, I don't want to move to some unsustainable mega city to commute for an hour each way to that company.... I love how resilient Cleveland is to the inevitabilities of climate change and I don't trust my family's chances of survival in a place like California or New Jersey. I wish the barriers to entry were lower for new companies so I could contribute more than voting with my tiny vote and buying (or more realistically not buying) things.
7:27 lmao
We really should eat less meat for those of us who wanna keep eating meat. I don't think it would be too unAmerican to eat like most people used to: mostly plant based meals with some meat on the side, instead of a big meat dish with plants as the side dishes.
fyi america is not the only one that eats meat, in fact in a couple of decades east asia will surpass western meat consumption volumes
@@waitwhat3547 1. I know
2. Has nothing to do with what I said.
If you were Chinese, the same principle applies, it wouldn't be unChinese or unpatriotic to eat less meat.
Overturning 'Citizens United' and enacting ranked choice voting would go a long way.
I mean, the video isn't wrong. If we just voted we could solve it. But in the US, 50% of the population simply doesn't vote. On top of that we have half the people that do vote, voting for a fascist party who can't see past their own nose in regards to long-term issues. Really its just a matter of education and counter-propaganda. If people voted for the better choice, Republicans would be extinct. If there was only a Democratic party, you'd see it splinter into the more Progressive wing and the Corporate Dems. But if we were at that point were the voting population was educated and cared enough to recognize that those politicians are compromised between doing what the people want versus what corporations want, we'd have solved this issue decades ago.
In short, the only way voting will solve this is a massive public education tour to inform people about politics and radicalize the non-voters into action. There is really no other way. No protest, forceful or violent action will stop climate change. Disagree all you want with the ending, but this video is a step in the right direction regardless.
Furthermore, I think its actually quite effective from an advocacy standpoint to bring up these issues without delving super deep into the existing politics behind them. How effective would this video be at convincing certain people if the last third was just promoting Democrats and shitting on Republicans? Not explicitly because Dems are so cool and good and awesome, but because they're the party that even at least even pays lip service to the issues at hand. Sure it would get to the ultimate point, but with tribalism how it is now, I'm pretty sure most Republicans would just instantly switch off and become combative.
But when you leave it open-ended like this, it can help people explore topics that they normally wouldn't otherwise. They might sit down and actually look one or two things up on their own, maybe engage in something amounting to scientific curiosity, and from there they can finally look into political advocacy. THAT is when they slowly come to the realization that the Republican party is essentially doing everything they can to expedite climate change, almost to the point of being intentional by now. That sort of self discovery is immensely de-radicalizing, because people feel like they achieved it on their own without someone holding their hand or worse, trying to shove their face into the evidence.
ye, republicans are going to improve the education of the youth so the educated would vote fo dems. Keep dreaming.
No you wouldnt. Not even if you lived in Germany, or France, or anywhere in Europe.
I know how political parties work here. Voting isnt a solution short term or long term.
@@arditlika9388 Exactly. There is simply no hope, let's just accept it and start preparing to deal with what's to come - hundreds of millions dead, massive refugee crises, wars like never seen before in the human history (Balkans, Eastern Europe, Africa and so on will be in flames) etc. Saudis are even making a city they can wall off from the rest of the world when the push comes to shove, because they know what's about to happen (Neom). Let's face it, nothing will be done before it's too late. It's not doomerism anymore, it's just how it is - humans only learn after the fact.
@@mariusamber3237 so your solution is to... sit there and do nothing?
some astrophysists theorize that venus is what earth will look like if we dont fix climate change
GigaChad start video
GigaChad ok, ill be back
14:34 There is one prominent Polish politician who does
Kinda hard in the end comparing the american political system with the german one.
Man im so glad i dont live in america it sounds horrible
We need an international proletarian struggle
That video was optimistic for doomers like me
Just spray clouds in the sky to protect from the sun oh wait we already doing it
Dude your content is so easy to make lmao
what's organizing
Organize and agitate bois
Organizing is very important but Hasan could also remind people that it also implies act of civil disobedience and resistance, which will be construed as violence or (eco)terrorism by mass media. So for anyone striving for social change talking about violence lightly is never a good idea; acknowledge that the subject is complex and that resistance many times has positive outcomes, regardless of the optics.
Carbon footprint=bunk
kurzgesagt: we're fucked.
I love how chat just blatantly lies to him about the video not being paid by some billionaire, almost like chat just disagrees with him by default.
??? the video was pretty anti big industry.
@@tylerhedge7168 It was still sponsored by a bajillionare douche bag who likely has a vested interest in making sure fighting climate change doesn't harm his profits
@@Ry_TSG they need the money to make videos though. They've always been very open with their sponsors and make an extra contract that ensures what content is presented in a video is onto Kurzgesagt, the sponsor decides nothing.
@@zombor8249 all ads and sponsors will bias a creator in some capacity. For example, the content creator won't vindicate Bill Gates's company for the amount of pollution they have done alongside electronic waste. They will just vaguely gesture at all companies and giving a haphazard individualistic solution like voting.
Did y’all miss the fact that they promoted carbon capture (which doesn’t even work btw, that shit is retarded), something Bill Gates is working on? Or how about the concrete problem, something Bill Gates also talked about in the past and even made a video on. Its pretty obvious the sponsor had at-least *some* impact on the content of the video.
have you thought about not cutting out the parts where hasan goes to the toilet? i usually watch these vids without having watched the original video and now i've missed 1:30 of it :(
The individual responsibility route actually leads to people mounting pressure on those that pull the levers so... Maybe we should be more nuanced about how we approach this.
Also 3:12 I'd be careful here my dude. Don't act like there aren't massive distinctions between you and I. You are the part of the rich, people like me just happen to live around people like you. People like me are homeless and have our skin color working against us, the fact that I can watch you on an Obama phone or a cheap chromebook doesn't put me in the same category as you. I am part of the working class homeless, I can afford a laptop by saving over 6 months and I still have to hurt myself to accomplish this but I don't make enough to pay rent inside of a month, I can't even afford to maintain a fucking car and am at risk of having all my shit stolen if I catch the eye of the wrong people and they realize I have no where safe to put what little I have.
Don't be a troglodyte my dude, I am not part of the rich just because I sleep on the pavement of a rich nation. What a fucking insult.
Now, all that said. I'm actually a huge fan of yours and I hope you learn to take criticism a little better.
I can’t wait the see the first picture of the earth being brown
So Kids, we need to fight for climate justice i guess
why does this video look so grey
What a nice twitch streamer, I hope he’s very intellectual about this topic…
Why is he wearing a Korea veteran hat? Wtf?
Hassan always has to pee lmao
I don’t agree, but I also don’t like scapegoating. Rothbard was making the point that adoption is already a market for selling children at a price cap of $0. So he said, “why not get the govt out of the way to allow for incentive to give kids for adoption.”
“Everyone will be a little unhappy and it will be okay” I mean sure probably but what a fucking “centrist” statement
I would be willing to go 90% vegan. I think a 90% reduction in meat consumption is enough of a sacrifice. But I'm having a bbq steak on my b-day! Edit: OK maybe 75% vegan.....
Do your part. Everyone cannot go vegan . It's not possible but any reduction will help. Thanks :)
Most vegan and vegetarian people would literally say that's very cool of you, even having 50% of the meat we consume normally its a big change, especially when most people are more willing to eat less meat, than eating no meat
Not eating meat won't change the fact that there's not enough resources for this many people on earth, we can't keep multiplying forever
@@CHClNOfullmelt at the current situation if all the land that is used for grazing animals to produce meat can support easily a population of 10billion. So I don't know what are you saying
@@mariaj1702 On the flip side, the "eat less meat" marketing also gives factory farming-based corporations license to continue doing what they've done for decades, because it's an ambiguous slogan that doesn't really exert much pressure in a concrete way. Considering that the average American eats meat at almost every meal, eating less meat for that person could simply mean eating 14 meals with meat per week instead of 21, but the former scenario would still be excessive, harmful, and unsustainable.
1:52 BASED KURSGESACT
Mass transit and bike riding lowers emissions a lot more than gas or electric cars but in the large scale of things, it's probably a small drop. We SHOULD give up being able to eat red meat whenever we want and end fuel subisidies (even if that means higher cost of living)
Except energy use is the biggest causer of emissions are you willing to give up electricity?
The solution already exists and has been existing for millions of years, is called TREES!
I think humans should just live underground.
You should do it universal basic income video the channel that your commenting on is really good
How did he and everyone else miss the Bill Gates sponsorship stinger at the end? He even foreshadowed it at the start of the video.
Edit* I have been corrected and humbled by the tireless patience of my comrades.
I don't think he missed it, he threw his hands up and walked off camera in disgust. I also would have liked more commentary on it though.
He literally walked off camera and said "wow" *because* he called it.
@@Purpletrident Really seemed like he was walking off anyway and said wow sarcastically about the video but idk.
@@Purpletrident Watched again and yeah you are right. Thankyou for holding me accountable.
I mean, it looks off but it doesn't take away anything said in the vid.
I wish the sponsor for that video was declared at the beginning...
tbh it makes the react so much better when we realize at the end why it was so libbed up. I already saw the video but clicked just to see hasan react to the gates notes part
Yeah, but the points being made were not all totally trash. Like, they COULD have simply ignored the fact that abandoning capitalism is a valid argument and that the wealthy contribute the most to the problem. They made that pretty clear.
16:09 Let's! 💚🍀🌺🍃🌷🌴💚
This video isn’t as disappointing as I thought it’d be- phew
I JUST SAW THE SPONSOR LMAOOO
@@anapaulapedro7025 they explain the sponsorship too
@@anapaulapedro7025 that doesn't make the video bad on it's own though, but i get it.
@@masterchief9291 I never said that, I was just surprised, that's all
@@masterchief9291 It's sponsored by Bill Gates. Therefore, we should all actually do the exact opposite of what it says to do.
Brb, setting a bunch of plastic and gasoline on fire in my backyard to save the planet.
The problem seems to be the humans
We’re dead
23:00 International Socialist Revolution needed
"Cheer up everyone! There's always time for democratic reformism!"
That's realistically the only option though
@@PeidosFTW by whose sense of reality?
@@bgiv2010 everybody (??) Do you honestly think there's a chance at a revolution lol
@@PeidosFTW as long as there's an exception to the 13th amendment, I have to hope so
@@PeidosFTW historically revolutions have never had the odds in their favor, this is just a dumb sentence lmao
Chair reacts
Em-eat or die
Maybe Thanos was right