I know many of you who come to watch this video are having a particular problem going on with your steps right now. This video won't solve every power step issue, but it will solve 95% of them. When trying to figure out what’s going on with your steps, always start with the common issues first. Methodically check each item to eliminate what it isn't and that will reveal what the problem has to be. This video not only shows you the common things you can do to prevent problems in the first place, but if a problem does come up, you know where and how to staring looking. Throwing money at a problem is never the procedure. Diagnose the problem first. If a part has been proven to be bad, then replace that part. Controllers, motors, gear boxes and other operational parts can and do expire from age, or will not work properly when subjected to a lot of rain, humidity, salt water….like staying near beaches or salty environments ie salted roads in the winter and the most common one……lack of maintenance. So use this video as a syllabus or a workbook of sorts, to help guide you into these different areas to check when you do have a problem with your steps. And of course do these maintenance items once a year to help prevent problems from happening in the first place. Other than the parts sources I listed in the description test, here's some additional info on getting the right replacement parts...... The proper replacement motor and/or gear box sourced from an auto parts store can vary depending on your type and model of steps. Generally speaking many can be replaced with a 2006 Taurus window motor part# 742-240 but sometimes the bolt pattern isn’t correct and in one instance the 9-tooth gear was smaller then the original gear. More places to find motor & gear parts: 1) AM Equipment 402 E. Hazel St Jefferson, OR 97352, (541) 327-1546 the motor is $29 plus $7 shipping. 2) Replacement step motor at AutoZone. It's a Siemens "Window Lift Motor", part# WL43003. 3) Autozone. The brand is "Siemens" The ID tag lists the following numbers: 59720-20 121899 4) A 1986-1995 Ford Taurus left front window lift motor sometimes will match. NAPA part # BK655-1395 $63.99. Also from Auto-Zone Manufactured by Dorman part# 742-206. This has a lifetime Warranty and was $49.99. On disassembly of the motor if you find the plastic plugs severely lopsided due to all the years of strain, new plugs cost $8.00 at Autozone or Amazon. Some folks that have a 25 series Kwikee step motor can replace it with a with a Dorman 742-277 window lift motor for a 1986 Ford Taurus driver side window lift motor. Taurus has a high torque motor which is why the number ends with 277 meaning high torque. AutoZone has rebuild kits for Dorman window lift gear boxes (plastic gears). Always use old motor and gear box to match to the right new one for your steps.
Your video was a lifesaver! Our steps quit working the other day after 5 years of full-time use. I had watched several other RUclips videos and they weren’t specific enough to be helpful. Yours while preventative centric still have enough detail in the troubleshooting part to get me going. I’m not sure, but think it was the tapping the motor with the mallet, but I also tightened the connections. Bottom line: The steps are working again. And I lubed them off good. TFYHelp!
Thank you very much for this video, I just got problems with my RV step, suddenly stopped working, fortunately the step was retracted; I already fixed today thanks to your video, I went directly to check the ground cable and it was in the air, it came off of the ground screw. I cleaned it and re established the ground and bingo the step is working well, I took advantage to lubricate the step and now is working perfect. Thanks for your useful and educational videos.
As a Truck Driver, the safety circle walk around...is something I have used with ALL my vehicles as a GREAT Habit in driving ANYTHING! It has been a lifesaver in many instances not just on driving big rigs. Just FYI friends!
Have owned our ‘01 Kountry Star DP since ‘03. Steps didn’t extend for the first time today. Will go thru your checklist tomorrow morn. Thanks so much for the most thorough analysis of the Quickie step assembly!
Thank you for your continued help. I’m 70 year old women just starting my full time life and knew nothing about fixing especially mechanical things. PS I know and RV Tech who likes his channel. Thanks
That is one of the most informative and coherent instructional videos I've ever seen my entire life. Clear and concise language, that makes use of returning to a point made earlier in order to facilitate acquisition of the topic. Teacher stuff, man. (I'm not a teacher but my wife is) Excellent. I'm guessing the other vids are too. I'll check them all out eventually. Thank you, thank you.
And I forgot to mention your most important team member, your wife. Good job at showing steady shots of the area in question. Who does the editing? Good job there too. Thanks. I know that eats up a ton of time producing something like that video.
Well Mike.....I always try to create informative and coherent instructional videos that returns to a point I made earlier in order to facilitate acquisition of the topic. I'm so glad you noticed that technique. You're too kewl. Yes my wife is a very important Team Member who works the camera and audio and I do the editing and updating our YT channel. thx so much for taking the time to chime in and I hope you stay with us. 💗 👍
I love your videos. You are so good at explaining everything. I love your humor. Keep up the good work. God bless you and I’m sending prayers for a good out come for your cancer.
I was looking all over for the fuse that blew out on our steps. Bought a 2005 used motorhome and as usual, there were no wiring diagrams with the coach or available from the defunct manufacturer. Your video pointed it out nicely.
Thank you Martin and Joanie! We have a 38' Fleetwood Expedition. My RV steps were stuck in the "out" position. I didn't know it and I was driving through the RV gate to get propane. My gate is only 9 1/2 ft wide. As I was going through the gate, my wife started to yell at me to stop, but it was too late and I made it through the gate. I was lucky that I didn't wipe out the steps because I was only 2" or so away from the post. So with my wife's guidance, I backed the motorhome up into the RV access area so I could figure out how to get the steps back in. I couldn't figure out what was wrong. After watching your video, I got my hammer out started to use it. I hit the motor a few good times. I thought it wouldn't make a difference. Well surprise, surprise, surprise!!! When I closed the door, it started working. I felt like a little kid! I opened and closed the door a few times before it sunk in that it was actually working! Thank you for the awesome video and keep on doing the DIY stuff. We appreciate you!
Thanks for that testimony Mark. Thank God, your wife saw those stairs out even though you barely made it. That was close. When we first start to move ANYTIME, I always ask Joanie to verify the steps are in. 🔧 👍
Awwww... you didn't have to do that for us. Thanks for keeping the mechanically- challenged in mind & connecting the dots for the "whys" in all of the videos you've provided.
My step quit after not locking it down while loading for a trip. Thinking I blew a fuse I crawled under the RV several times trying to figure it out. I finally tapped the motor with a hammer a few times and that fixed the issue. Followed your cleaning and lubricant instructions and it works better than ever! Thanks for the great advice!
I just started my RV and many things don't work after a year of sitting up including the steps so I have subscribed and will get a lot of help from your videos, thanks for the information.
Great video you guys!! We laughed so hard with that intro!!! Great tips again Martin, the step carpets were a #1 priority for us even tho our steps are the Lippert manual fold type those carpet steps are just an added safety precaution and also keep the dirt from being tracked inside! The added adjustable step I saw that you have is on our list after we experienced during our two week shake down trip. The height difference from the last step to the ground was a knee killer and after I noticed a fellow rv’er who had the same step as yours we’ve been searching for one but they are sold out like many other rv things that this massive rv surg has taken North America by storm! I’ve since built a wooden step but allowed enough space to slip in extra wood to give it a sturdy step! Like always you guys, keep the camera rolling safe journeys ! 👍🇨🇦
Excellent, comprehensive video on this topic. One of the items that I am working on this winter is completing a comprehensive maintenance checklist - and then doing the maintenance work before we head out in the spring. I find that after you do an item a couple of times - you get proficient at it and it is not that big a deal. These videos help with the knowledge base greatly! Safe Travels!
Nice haircut Joanie 😊 I did the maintenance on George’s steps the first month after we brought him home. Now that I know I missed the gear thingy... I’ll go under and do it again! Thanks Martin!
I went back and rewatched this video when our steps stopped working as we were leaving the Florida Keys! Ground wire was the issue. I also ordered the lubes mentioned from your link and I just love that Chain Wax lube. I am finding several uses for it. Keep up the good work Martin! Safe Travels!!
So glad our videos are making a impact and helped you. And thank you so much for using our Amazon Store when you need things. Joanie & I can't thank you enough. 🔧 👍
Great Video. My steps were stuck out. A few light taps and magic, the steps started working again. But being a preventative maintenance guy, I'm going to go ahead and order the motor and change it out, as well as do the additional cleaning and lube of all the parts in the video. You rock!
I greased my Super C Nexus Wraith with the information you provided. I bought the grease gun you suggested; it worked great. You might think about a video on braking systems used when towing a car. I use a RVi 3. Just got it. I had a RVi 2 for about 5 years. I replaced it 2 times under warranty. Otherwise it worked fine and was easy to install. I have yet to take a trip with the RV3. I bought and used your foam cannon. I have a water softener I got before your video. I was taking it in to be serviced every 2500 gallons. I thought the that the resin needed changing. They were just regenerating with salt. I paid $90.00 for the last service. With your video I will do this myself. I will now do your step service. Thanks for your maintenance tips
I've thought about a vid on braking systems but there are so many types of set ups and applications it would be impossible for me to do that correctly since my experience is with ours which is the Ready Brute Elite. But I do appreciate your suggestion Stephen.
Great info. We just bought a 97 Dolphin. Steps are down all the time, driving or not. Now I know where to start. Gonna binge you guys from the beginning now.
Thanks for the help. what I ran into was the pin that holds the gear assembly to the stairs was seized inside. Took quite a bit of effort to get it out without running anything.
Thank you for the Great video, can’t wait to get under r v & take a look at this! As an x auto tech. of 38 years and a big believer of maintenance, you taught me a lot in 20 minutes. ( P S it’s 4:00 a m in the morning, woke up & couldn’t go back to sleep, your channel came up on RUclips, now I have something to watch every morning)
You are awesome! I just got my 2017 Georgetown 364ts back from only big Ford Truck dealer that services RVs on the F53 Chasis in Cincinnati. I asked specifically to check front end and do the 30,000 mile checkup. Oil change and lube bearings on wheels. I told them the Jeep I was towing had bad wheel bearing and axle trouble after long trip. Also they have a 20 point inspection etc. I then was watching your channel for first time on TV about Air Filter changing. So I go down to where RV is stored inside open air filter housing and find almost black air filter. I called dealer service manager and he said can't believe his guy missed it. I took a photo and sent to him. Then I checked your video on lubricating front end 9 points. I go back down and sure enough it looks like they were not even touched. I have had it there 3 times before and looks like they have never greased the front end or anything else probably. Thanks to your videos I will be doing my own maintenance or checking who does it to be sure it is done correctly.
Good for you Dennis for going back and checking their work. But WOW. And you know what's sad...I've heard this same story a LOT. This is EXACTLY why we started this channel. To show folks step-by-step how-to do things and what tools you need. You by the tools once and they pay for themselves the first time you use them. Plus the job is done right. BTW...have you watched my greasing the front end video? ruclips.net/video/kJBG-5KXRLA/видео.html
RVstreet yes I have and I am going to go on your store website and buy those tools plus that cool valve for the drain plug when doing and maybe that soap for washing the rv
I just replaced a 1996 motorhome with a new to me 2018 Thor ACE. The steps on the new unit were a concern to me because they give about 1/4" - 1/2" when I put my weight on them. The step on the old unit was rock solid, it did not give at all when weight was put on it. I see that the steps on your unit do exactly the same thing that my unit's steps do. So, now I understand that the give must be due to the more complex multiple step mechanism compared to the single step design of the old unit. Your video has shown me what I need to do to prevent the slop becoming a problem down the road.
Yep, movement in the steps is common but that's why you support them underneath when parked. Otherwise that movement or bouncing up and down every time you step on them can cause premature wear and/or bind or break the gears in the gear box. Just support the steps and you'll be fine.
Martin always enjoy your video's. Purchased a class c couple of month's ago and already have a couple of projects to takle . liked your video on electric steps hopefully it will help me in my repair.
I liked your comment about the coach automatically pulling in the stairs when the engine is started...not so with the electric awning...but that's a story for another day. 😂
Great video. My steps go in and out but the motor continues to run several seconds which makes a banging noise, any suggestions? Again THANKS for all your advice on the RV steps.
Good info! It's also a good idea to lubricate the connecting rod that is just above the light, near the gear. It transfer all of the torque to the steps.
Like the new hairdo and I bet it's cooler too. Another think to check if your steps start acting up is the house battery. My battery was getting low on charge and the steps were getting jerky when going in and out and eventually stopped. Once I replaced the battery the steps worked like a charm.
You are right Martin regarding safety exiting and entering RV's. That can't be overstated. My wife has a coworker who slipped on a step and fell while entering their RV and ended up fracturing a cheekbone. Thanks for emphasizing that. Thanks again. Great video. Forgot how funny the beginning of this one was! "Makeup" right. Yeah, you do clean up good!! LOL
Yep. Many people don't think having good step covers is important UNTIL something bad happens. And it does happen often and especially when they're wet. You always have good comments. It was fun doing the make up thing. 😜
@@RVstreet Got up super early and watched a couple of your videos again. This one was spot on regarding the care and feeding of these KwiKee automatic stairs. Regarding using Chain wax lube: "Brilliant" I had to sell my motorcycle a few years ago so I thought I still had some chain wax/lube in the garage. Dang it! Must of dumped it that last time I cleaned up the garage. Well, I'll just go to the local motorcycle shop and pick up one of the smaller spray cans of chain wax. Lots of good info in this video Martin and Joannie!
The most excellent video! What a big help! Also your video about repairing the motor, only left with one problem... the stairs are reversed! Open the door and stairs retract, close the door and they extend... everything was put back the way it came apart, I'm confused!
Thank you Claude so much 👍 Just an FYI - here's my PLAYLIST page that's packed with other vid's that you may find helpful: ruclips.net/user/RVstreetplaylists
We have a class c, and thankfully it has an interlock where the steps retract when you start the engine, regardless of if you have them enabled or not.
Ha ha Martin ! I loved the start of this video! Man I loved the information you have given on the steps ! Just priceless!!!… Being a new Motorhome owner this is Awesome!… Thanks again!…… God bless you and Wife! Stay safe!
Thanks so much for the video. As a bit of an amatuer video maker myself (no illusions more than mom and local flying buddies are gonna watch mine though) I realize you put a lot of effort into making this. Just wanted to say thank you and commend you for a good job. I came across it as I'm planning this weekend to start troubleshooting my steps that stopped working recently. Based on your video, I'm hoping/guessing that it is a fuse on the underside like you showed. Already checked the fuse in the main fuse box(es) and they appear good. I recently had the main engine's alternator go bad such that the voltage regulator was allowing high (higher than 14v) to all the coach's systems. Got the alternator replaced and it seems the steps might be a casualty of the over-voltage. Anyway.... I am digressing.... back to your feedback... thanks for going through all the parts and talking about how it all works. This will be most helpful as I start diagnosing mine in the next day or two. Take care!
Hello Martin, I also like to take care of things before they break. We are weekend campers so we keep a small pocket tablet in which we make notes, add things needed and or repaired as they come up so at the end of the trip, rip that page out and we take it in the house so we can start working on the list or prepare or what is needed to be done. As for that step motor, similar to what I have for my awning. I paid dearly for the new motor from the manufacturer. Next time I will head to the auto parts store. Thank you!
Great info. Thanks for sharing. I once heard someone say, always carry a torque wrench with you and check your wheel lug nuts before leaving each trip. Also, check your tire pressure with a tire pressure gage even if you have a t.p.m.s. installed. 👍👍
Martin, thank you! right now we are stranded with our 2005 Four Winds. Steps wont retract. When I went under saw green wire not attached, ring terminal had rusted thru. I replaced and reset in new location. That did'nt make step work tho. I went ahead a used lube and checked for any debree in linkages. nothing. was trying to find info to manually retract step so could get to place to have worked on, not successful yet.. We do use a step just like yours we are using and bracing under steps. but wish had seen your video sooner. While watching I saw the magnets on door so checked and lo and behold, our magnets are not meeting. the screen door where magnet is attached is warped and not meeting inside part of door frame, now I know what I need to address, not sure if can fix myself, but don't feel as stupid. I will be adding your information to my maintenance schedule. Thank you!!
Spot on. Having had problems with my steps before, you hit all the items. Never thought about protectant on ground...you know what I will be doing today. What is “chain wax” and where do you buy? Wife wants to know how dirty the step carpet gets going down the road, especially following a rain. How do you clean? I have a feeling that is my next honey do!
Go back to the video and right underneath the video you'll see SHOW MORE, click that, scroll down and you'll see links to all the products I use right there. Using our links to purchase products is a great way to say "thank you" for making these video's because it supports our channel. They don't get dirty at all while underway even in the rain. To clean, we just use a broom from time to time and then when I do a full wash & detail which is twice a year, I power wash them along with everything else. If you’ll go to our main YT Channel page-ruclips.net/user/RVstreet-and click PLAYLISTS, then on that page click “RV Motorhome Upgrades, Maintenance and DIY How-To’s” there’s already a wealth of information there. Look for my video in that PLAYLIST titled "Keep your RV looking new & protect it from damaging UV". Thanks Ralph. 👍
Also check with Lippert the serial number for the stairs....there has been a recall on the turn buckle linkage...mine failed/broke when I stepped on it to enter the RV after checking in at a campground and the stairs retracted from my weight and trapped my foot between the steps...good thing I had a good grip on the hand rail and door or things would of been really bad.🤠👍
Another great and important video. I saw a step repair vid not long ago where they used a caulking hammer to “repair” them! Btw, the hair looks good! The golf swing was a great homage. Oh- the one thing? Going to redistribute storage this week and next week go for the 4-corner weigh. Also replacing stock halogen headlight bulbs with LED.
Awesome video thanks for sharing. Have an issue with my steps, fuse keeps popping immediately and step won’t work. Do you think it could be the control box? Motor works independently
Your video came at exactly the right time! My step was working fine however it makes no difference if I have the key in the ignition in off or on position , and if the steps switch is on or off. Every time I open the door the steps comes out and close it it goes back in. It recent got stuck in the out position so I replaced the controller, as well as the motor and gear assy. It works again just as it did before-all the time! My rig is a 1997 Dutchstar DP-3757. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for all you do!
*Every time I open the door the steps comes out and close it it goes back in* So I'm confused. This is the way it's supposed to work. *It recent got stuck in the out position so I replaced the controller, as well as the motor and gear assy. It works again just as it did before-all the time!* So I don't understand your question for help. It's working as it did before. That's the way it's supposed to work. Clarify if I'm not understanding you right.
@@RVstreet Thanks for getting back to me Marty, I will try to clarify. If I open the door from the outside the steps extends out and then if I turn the step switch in the off position , shouldnt the step stay down unless I put the key in the ignition or turn the key on? If I am parked at a camp site with jacks down no key in ignition I thought with the steps extended and switch of the steps shouils stay extended until I turn the ignition on or turn the steps switch back on, now the steps come out and go back in every time I open the door. Thanks again for your input!
@@aldsldr.3589 *If I open the door from the outside the steps extends out and then if I turn the step switch in the off position , shouldnt the step stay down unless I put the key in the ignition or turn the key on?* Yes. Ok so for example, we're parked right now in a CG. Jacks are down and slides out. Step Switch is in the OFF position. Now we can go in and out of the door and the steps stay put. This is the way it should be set and work when parked. If I turn ON the step switch, the steps will deploy and retract every time I open and close the door. On the ignition switch....it over rides the switch. When you put in the key and turn it it tells the steps "I'm going to start the RV now, so bring in the steps". Since you put in the key and turned it, the steps assume you're going to start the engine and it doesn't want you to leave with the steps deployed. So it retracts them. If you open the door it will deploy the steps. If you keep the door open the steps will stay deployed. Again... the ignition switch....over rides the step switch. It's a safety feature. Just putting in the key into ignition doesn't do anything, it's when you turn it that over rides the step switch.
@@RVstreet I read through your instructions and when I tried it again, it worked just as you said it should. I think maybe I was turn the switch to the off position before exiting the coach, so when I exited the coach and then reached in and turned the switch it worked perfectly- Shazaam! (As Gomer used to say LOL!) Thanks again!
Just saw your video and happy to find you online. Very imformative on a comfortable platform .we just prchased our first rv and the second day the steps would not retract with the door action but only by turning the key. Where should I check first ? Appreciate any help.
Good job again Martin. I don’t even have those stairs and I watched to the whole video! You inspire me to keep our Vegas in tip top shape. Would love to see a video on how you keep all your information organized like you mentioned in the other maintenance video. BTW, your haircut looks great and I’m jealous cause you still have more hair than I do. 🤫
As far as maintenance logs, I just keep a large running document. I use Adobe InDeign to do this but you could use Microsoft WORD or a basic text doc. 33 pages and growing. I enter the date, where I was at the time, what I did, parts and tools I used and any special notes. I keep this on my laptop. All my hard copies of manuals are kept in black bag but I also have additional PDF's that I have downloaded from the web in assorted folders and kept in alphabetical order. 👍
RVstreet perfect, thanks, I see you are up early too! You are retired you know! Me, not so much. Off to work. Got an addition to build before winter. Thanks for all the great videos and prompt replies.
R U Subbed Kellie? I've got bunch of really good stuff coming up. Or maybe check these vid's out. They also may be helpful to ya. ruclips.net/user/RVstreetplaylists
@@RVstreet I'm overwhelmed with stuff!! LOL 😆 I'm on my own with getting my rig straight!! Got tpms coming next week and a duel wireless camera setup also. Need new monitoring system!! This one lies!!! LOL!!! Major PM is in full swing!! I'm watching 👀
@@littleweasel1957ify thx Kellie. I totally understand how some people can get overwhelmed. It seems like a lot when you first start out. You've probably heard me say in some of my videos that I took 18 months to get our rig ready before we went FT. BUT....don't get overwhelmed, make yourself a punch list, put top priority things at the top of the list and then take them one at a time. Complete that item and then check it off the list. Over time you'll see that list shrink and you'll see that you're really starting to make some progress. I'm proud of the fact that you're motivated and determined to tackle these things and Major PM is in full swing. GO Kellie. 🔧 💗
You never cease to amaze me on your commitment to maintaining your rig. My motorhome is 4 years old and the kwikee steps are rusting already. Do you have any suggestions for grinding the rust and repainting the steps and hinges? Thank you.
Do not grind off rust. To abrasive. Remove any step covers, lightly sand and give it a couple three coats of black Rust-oleum. OR....I actually have a dealing with light RUST vid coming out in the near future if you want to wait and watch that first. Or do what I said above. Once re-painted, do a full service on the steps. thx Neil. 👍
Thanks for great video and info. Steps rebuilt and working smooth:)) But when retracted, the dash alert shows step meaning it is out...Cannot figure out how to get it to go off when retracted...Perfect otherwise...any info appreciated..Tnx
Thanks for the great video. I was hoping to find a solution to my specific problem. When on shore power, my steps work perfectly..but when on battery, they keep trying to go out or retract even though they have performed properly. In other words, they will retract and keep clicking as if they have not retracted and vice versa the other way depending on the function of the door.
Well, this video won't solve every issue, but it will solve 95% of them. Have you cleaned and checked *ALL your electrical connections* including the ground and the main controller connector as I showed? Check the fuse, it may be corroded and the power signal may be getting interrupted from the batt bay.....etc...etc... Always start with the common issues first. Methodically check each item to eliminate what it isn't and that will reveal what the problem has to be. Check your factory wiring diagrams for that area and see how it's wired into your house batt's. Then trace all connections to there and do the same as above, Clean and check. It's definitely an electrical issue and that could-and I mean could-include that the controller went bad. Don't buy a new one until you do all what I outlined above and more. Throwing money at it is not the procedure. Diagnose the problem, if a part has be proven to be bad, then replace that part. I don't know the history of your RV, but controllers and other operational issues can and do go out from age, subjected to a lot of rain, humidity, salt....like staying near beaches or salt water and the main one......lack of maintenance.
Thanks Martin! I have to reseal all the holes under our coach with foam. So I will do the steps too. Had a weird thing happen on a trip. It was raining and we were getting quite a bit of water coming out of the shower while driving. After getting home, I got under the coach and found old foam and poorly installed. Went under to clear out the old foam and couldn't believe what I found. Thor had cut a 9"x9" hole through the floor under the shower drain. I am guessing that they used the block that was cut out as a plug and taped it up on the bottom. At some point the tape let go and the plug is gone. So exposed water pipes, electrical wiring, heat ductwork, and exposed drains. The hole is above the driverside dual wheels. Very hard to see. Again, thank you for the step video! Respectfully, Kevin
I know right? Crazy. It would be a very good thing if everybody got up under their coach and inspect everything inch-by-inch under their RV for any possible failure points and deal with with them now. When we initially got our coach, I spent 3 days doing those very things. Found lots of stuff that needed tending to. 👍
Martin, Got under the coach today. Expanding foamed all the holes that had bad foam, filled the 9x9 hole with 2.5" closed cell hard foam and Flexsealed it black to match the bottom, and for good measure cleaned and lubed the steps. Thank you so much for the info you show in your videos! Respectfully, Kevin
Martin.. thankyou for doing this video.. my steps on my 2011 Vista have been giving me some difficulties ... the steps open to there full length then come in about an inch then out to the full length .. this happens about 5 times and makes a banging noise ... so bizarre. They steps retract and do the same thing.. Now after watching the video I am confident its the motor and gear so I will change them. I will of course speak to the rep from AM and/or Kwikie steps first before I order to confirm its not the controller. Just wanted to say thanks again for your great video. Cheers from Canada
Look at the magnetic switch on the door first. That is a big culprit of these kind of symptoms. If that doesn't work try my other troubleshooting tips. If none of those work, then replace the motor & gear box.
Great video Martin Our 2014 Georgetown 328 steps go half way then stop and make a horrible grinding noise I suspect gear box is off track or damaged somehow Keith
Do the routine maintenance first then re-assess. If that doesn't fix it, then by your description it does sound like a trashed gear box. If that's the case, I'd replace both the motor and gear box while your at it. Then just perform your routine maintenance from there on out and they should last for years and years. 👍
I know many of you who come to watch this video are having a particular problem going on with your steps right now. This video won't solve every power step issue, but it will solve 95% of them. When trying to figure out what’s going on with your steps, always start with the common issues first. Methodically check each item to eliminate what it isn't and that will reveal what the problem has to be.
This video not only shows you the common things you can do to prevent problems in the first place, but if a problem does come up, you know where and how to staring looking.
Throwing money at a problem is never the procedure. Diagnose the problem first. If a part has been proven to be bad, then replace that part. Controllers, motors, gear boxes and other operational parts can and do expire from age, or will not work properly when subjected to a lot of rain, humidity, salt water….like staying near beaches or salty environments ie salted roads in the winter and the most common one……lack of maintenance.
So use this video as a syllabus or a workbook of sorts, to help guide you into these different areas to check when you do have a problem with your steps. And of course do these maintenance items once a year to help prevent problems from happening in the first place.
Other than the parts sources I listed in the description test, here's some additional info on getting the right replacement parts......
The proper replacement motor and/or gear box sourced from an auto parts store can vary depending on your type and model of steps. Generally speaking many can be replaced with a 2006 Taurus window motor part# 742-240 but sometimes the bolt pattern isn’t correct and in one instance the 9-tooth gear was smaller then the original gear.
More places to find motor & gear parts:
1) AM Equipment 402 E. Hazel St Jefferson, OR 97352, (541) 327-1546 the motor is $29 plus $7 shipping.
2) Replacement step motor at AutoZone. It's a Siemens "Window Lift Motor", part# WL43003.
3) Autozone. The brand is "Siemens"
The ID tag lists the following numbers:
59720-20
121899
4) A 1986-1995 Ford Taurus left front window lift motor sometimes will match. NAPA part # BK655-1395 $63.99. Also from Auto-Zone Manufactured by Dorman part# 742-206. This has a lifetime Warranty and was $49.99.
On disassembly of the motor if you find the plastic plugs severely lopsided due to all the years of strain, new plugs cost $8.00 at Autozone or Amazon.
Some folks that have a 25 series Kwikee step motor can replace it with a with a Dorman 742-277 window lift motor for a 1986 Ford Taurus driver side window lift motor. Taurus has a high torque motor which is why the number ends with 277 meaning high torque.
AutoZone has rebuild kits for Dorman window lift gear boxes (plastic gears).
Always use old motor and gear box to match to the right new one for your steps.
My motor is making a clicking noise but it’s not moving my steps anymore. Have you experienced this issue ?
@@Turboromee No I haven't, but more than likely the gear box is shot.
Your video was a lifesaver! Our steps quit working the other day after 5 years of full-time use. I had watched several other RUclips videos and they weren’t specific enough to be helpful.
Yours while preventative centric still have enough detail in the troubleshooting part to get me going. I’m not sure, but think it was the tapping the motor with the mallet, but I also tightened the connections. Bottom line: The steps are working again. And I lubed them off good. TFYHelp!
Thank you very much for this video, I just got problems with my RV step, suddenly stopped working, fortunately the step was retracted; I already fixed today thanks to your video, I went directly to check the ground cable and it was in the air, it came off of the ground screw. I cleaned it and re established the ground and bingo the step is working well, I took advantage to lubricate the step and now is working perfect. Thanks for your useful and educational videos.
As a Truck Driver, the safety circle walk around...is something I have used with ALL my vehicles as a GREAT Habit in driving ANYTHING! It has been a lifesaver in many instances not just on driving big rigs. Just FYI friends!
Great tip!
Having trouble with my steps. Knew which channel to "tune" to. I know you're now with us in spirit......great video as always.
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Have owned our ‘01 Kountry Star DP since ‘03. Steps didn’t extend for the first time today. Will go thru your checklist tomorrow morn. Thanks so much for the most thorough analysis of the Quickie step assembly!
Thank you for your continued help. I’m 70 year old women just starting my full time life and knew nothing about fixing especially mechanical things. PS I know and RV Tech who likes his channel. Thanks
I'm so glad the channel is helpful to you. As Martin would say "you can do this" 👍
That is one of the most informative and coherent instructional videos I've ever seen my entire life. Clear and concise language, that makes use of returning to a point made earlier in order to facilitate acquisition of the topic. Teacher stuff, man. (I'm not a teacher but my wife is) Excellent. I'm guessing the other vids are too. I'll check them all out eventually. Thank you, thank you.
And I forgot to mention your most important team member, your wife. Good job at showing steady shots of the area in question. Who does the editing? Good job there too. Thanks. I know that eats up a ton of time producing something like that video.
Well Mike.....I always try to create informative and coherent instructional videos that returns to a point I made earlier in order to facilitate acquisition of the topic. I'm so glad you noticed that technique. You're too kewl.
Yes my wife is a very important Team Member who works the camera and audio and I do the editing and updating our YT channel.
thx so much for taking the time to chime in and I hope you stay with us. 💗 👍
I love your videos. You are so good at explaining everything. I love your humor. Keep up the good work. God bless you and I’m sending prayers for a good out come for your cancer.
I was looking all over for the fuse that blew out on our steps. Bought a 2005 used motorhome and as usual, there were no wiring diagrams with the coach or available from the defunct manufacturer. Your video pointed it out nicely.
Thank you Martin and Joanie! We have a 38' Fleetwood Expedition. My RV steps were stuck in the "out" position. I didn't know it and I was driving through the RV gate to get propane. My gate is only 9 1/2 ft wide. As I was going through the gate, my wife started to yell at me to stop, but it was too late and I made it through the gate. I was lucky that I didn't wipe out the steps because I was only 2" or so away from the post. So with my wife's guidance, I backed the motorhome up into the RV access area so I could figure out how to get the steps back in. I couldn't figure out what was wrong. After watching your video, I got my hammer out started to use it. I hit the motor a few good times. I thought it wouldn't make a difference. Well surprise, surprise, surprise!!! When I closed the door, it started working. I felt like a little kid! I opened and closed the door a few times before it sunk in that it was actually working! Thank you for the awesome video and keep on doing the DIY stuff. We appreciate you!
Thanks for that testimony Mark. Thank God, your wife saw those stairs out even though you barely made it. That was close. When we first start to move ANYTIME, I always ask Joanie to verify the steps are in. 🔧 👍
thanks so much. the tapping worked for me. I cleaned it and lubed it. And now I know how to replace the motor when it comes time.
Holy crap, you are extremely thorough. People need this. Good stuff, thank you.
Sticker, round.
Awwww... you didn't have to do that for us. Thanks for keeping the mechanically- challenged in mind & connecting the dots for the "whys" in all of the videos you've provided.
Our pleasure Larry 💋
My step quit after not locking it down while loading for a trip. Thinking I blew a fuse I crawled under the RV several times trying to figure it out. I finally tapped the motor with a hammer a few times and that fixed the issue. Followed your cleaning and lubricant instructions and it works better than ever! Thanks for the great advice!
Best RV channel on YT. Love it. Keep it up!
Wow, thanks so much Byron. You're the man.
Thank you for your time I making this video . Very informative, our steps went out on day 2 of a 3 week trip.
I just started my RV and many things don't work after a year of sitting up including the steps so I have subscribed and will get a lot of help from your videos, thanks for the information.
Love the hair cut 🤩
As always an excellent video.
Blessings, take care and stay safe 🤗🐞
😊 thank you. 🙏
Great video you guys!! We laughed so hard with that intro!!! Great tips again Martin, the step carpets were a #1 priority for us even tho our steps are the Lippert manual fold type those carpet steps are just an added safety precaution and also keep the dirt from being tracked inside! The added adjustable step I saw that you have is on our list after we experienced during our two week shake down trip. The height difference from the last step to the ground was a knee killer and after I noticed a fellow rv’er who had the same step as yours we’ve been searching for one but they are sold out like many other rv things that this massive rv surg has taken North America by storm! I’ve since built a wooden step but allowed enough space to slip in extra wood to give it a sturdy step! Like always you guys, keep the camera rolling safe journeys ! 👍🇨🇦
Thanks guys. That intro was fun to do. I like doing quirky little stuff like that in vids. I don't like being like everybody else. It's just me.
Myk I'll hmm
Very important thing is -----------> " Stick Around " 😊 I`m addicted to your videos. ❤
Thank you so much. I think you just saved my steps and my wallet. Much respect to you sir.
Excellent, comprehensive video on this topic. One of the items that I am working on this winter is completing a comprehensive maintenance checklist - and then doing the maintenance work before we head out in the spring. I find that after you do an item a couple of times - you get proficient at it and it is not that big a deal. These videos help with the knowledge base greatly! Safe Travels!
Ya most of this stuff really doesn't take that long to do in real time.
Thanks again guys so much.
Y'all are awesome. Can't get enough of your videos!
Nice haircut Joanie 😊 I did the maintenance on George’s steps the first month after we brought him home. Now that I know I missed the gear thingy... I’ll go under and do it again! Thanks Martin!
I went back and rewatched this video when our steps stopped working as we were leaving the Florida Keys! Ground wire was the issue. I also ordered the lubes mentioned from your link and I just love that Chain Wax lube. I am finding several uses for it. Keep up the good work Martin! Safe Travels!!
So glad our videos are making a impact and helped you.
And thank you so much for using our Amazon Store when you need things. Joanie & I can't thank you enough. 🔧 👍
Well done. Very informative. Thanks for making the video.
Great Video. My steps were stuck out. A few light taps and magic, the steps started working again. But being a preventative maintenance guy, I'm going to go ahead and order the motor and change it out, as well as do the additional cleaning and lube of all the parts in the video. You rock!
Martin. We were just given a 2002 rv. Set for 12 years. Your channel will help us tremendously. Thanks
Thank you David.
I greased my Super C Nexus Wraith with the information you provided. I bought the grease gun you suggested; it worked great.
You might think about a video on braking systems used when towing a car. I use a RVi 3. Just got it. I had a RVi 2 for about 5 years. I replaced it 2 times under warranty. Otherwise it worked fine and was easy to install. I have yet to take a trip with the RV3.
I bought and used your foam cannon.
I have a water softener I got before your video. I was taking it in to be serviced every 2500 gallons. I thought the that the resin needed changing. They were just regenerating with salt. I paid $90.00 for the last service. With your video I will do this myself.
I will now do your step service.
Thanks for your maintenance tips
I've thought about a vid on braking systems but there are so many types of set ups and applications it would be impossible for me to do that correctly since my experience is with ours which is the Ready Brute Elite. But I do appreciate your suggestion Stephen.
Thanks for another very informative maintenance video.
Martin...you almost look civilized...lol! Thanks....AGAIN...for sharing your knowledge....it sure is appreciated.
Ya, but I'm still an animal sometimes. Growl........🐻
Thank you Martin for the Class A tutorial. We are now Martinizing are new to us used 2011 Itasca Sunstar 35F that we purchased a week ago.
Best stair video thus far! Thank you!
Great info. We just bought a 97 Dolphin. Steps are down all the time, driving or not.
Now I know where to start.
Gonna binge you guys from the beginning now.
EXCELLENT advice, clear and concise. I subbed!
Thanks for the help. what I ran into was the pin that holds the gear assembly to the stairs was seized inside. Took quite a bit of effort to get it out without running anything.
Don't have any Kwikee steps, but I watched your video. Very detailed and informative post. Thank you.
Looking good my friend.
Love this channel!
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Thank you for the Great video, can’t wait to get under r v & take a look at this! As an x auto tech. of 38 years and a big believer of maintenance, you taught me a lot in 20 minutes. ( P S it’s 4:00 a m in the morning, woke up & couldn’t go back to sleep, your channel came up on RUclips, now I have something to watch every morning)
Thx Robert so much. And coming from 38yrs. as an auto tech...I'm humbled. 😜
You are awesome! I just got my 2017 Georgetown 364ts back from only big Ford Truck dealer that services RVs on the F53 Chasis in Cincinnati. I asked specifically to check front end and do the 30,000 mile checkup. Oil change and lube bearings on wheels. I told them the Jeep I was towing had bad wheel bearing and axle trouble after long trip. Also they have a 20 point inspection etc. I then was watching your channel for first time on TV about Air Filter changing. So I go down to where RV is stored inside open air filter housing and find almost black air filter. I called dealer service manager and he said can't believe his guy missed it. I took a photo and sent to him. Then I checked your video on lubricating front end 9 points. I go back down and sure enough it looks like they were not even touched. I have had it there 3 times before and looks like they have never greased the front end or anything else probably. Thanks to your videos I will be doing my own maintenance or checking who does it to be sure it is done correctly.
Good for you Dennis for going back and checking their work.
But WOW. And you know what's sad...I've heard this same story a LOT. This is EXACTLY why we started this channel. To show folks step-by-step how-to do things and what tools you need. You by the tools once and they pay for themselves the first time you use them. Plus the job is done right.
BTW...have you watched my greasing the front end video?
ruclips.net/video/kJBG-5KXRLA/видео.html
RVstreet yes I have and I am going to go on your store website and buy those tools plus that cool valve for the drain plug when doing and maybe that soap for washing the rv
@@dennisking8556 There ya go. thx Dennis so much and now you'll know everything is done right. 👍 🔧
I just replaced a 1996 motorhome with a new to me 2018 Thor ACE. The steps on the new unit were a concern to me because they give about 1/4" - 1/2" when I put my weight on them. The step on the old unit was rock solid, it did not give at all when weight was put on it. I see that the steps on your unit do exactly the same thing that my unit's steps do. So, now I understand that the give must be due to the more complex multiple step mechanism compared to the single step design of the old unit. Your video has shown me what I need to do to prevent the slop becoming a problem down the road.
Yep, movement in the steps is common but that's why you support them underneath when parked. Otherwise that movement or bouncing up and down every time you step on them can cause premature wear and/or bind or break the gears in the gear box. Just support the steps and you'll be fine.
Martin always enjoy your video's. Purchased a class c couple of month's ago and already have a couple of projects to takle . liked your video on electric steps hopefully it will help me in my repair.
I hope it all worked out for you. Thank you for watching.
I liked your comment about the coach automatically pulling in the stairs when the engine is started...not so with the electric awning...but that's a story for another day. 😂
Still learning from you Martin. God speed.
Great video. My steps go in and out but the motor continues to run several seconds which makes a banging noise, any suggestions? Again THANKS for all your advice on the RV steps.
I just changed the RV Electrical cord in my RV. I’m so proud! 😂 Now for the stairs
Good info! It's also a good idea to lubricate the connecting rod that is just above the light, near the gear. It transfer all of the torque to the steps.
Yep. Lube everything under there. Forgot to mention that item. It's the way videos go sometimes. Thanks for reminding everyone.
Luv it! You two rock 🎸
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Like the new hairdo and I bet it's cooler too. Another think to check if your steps start acting up is the house battery. My battery was getting low on charge and the steps were getting jerky when going in and out and eventually stopped. Once I replaced the battery the steps worked like a charm.
Good point Carl. Yes bad or low house batt's can also be the culprit of malfunctioning steps. Yeah you. 😜
You are right Martin regarding safety exiting and entering RV's. That can't be overstated. My wife has a coworker who slipped on a step and fell while entering their RV and ended up fracturing a cheekbone. Thanks for emphasizing that.
Thanks again. Great video. Forgot how funny the beginning of this one was! "Makeup" right. Yeah, you do clean up good!! LOL
Yep. Many people don't think having good step covers is important UNTIL something bad happens. And it does happen often and especially when they're wet. You always have good comments. It was fun doing the make up thing. 😜
@@RVstreet Got up super early and watched a couple of your videos again. This one was spot on regarding the care and feeding of these KwiKee automatic stairs. Regarding using Chain wax lube: "Brilliant"
I had to sell my motorcycle a few years ago so I thought I still had some chain wax/lube in the garage. Dang it! Must of dumped it that last time I cleaned up the garage. Well, I'll just go to the local motorcycle shop and pick up one of the smaller spray cans of chain wax. Lots of good info in this video Martin and Joannie!
I'm always smiling at the end of your videos. Thanks to you and Joanie
Our pleasure! Happy New Year. 💗
The most excellent video! What a big help! Also your video about repairing the motor, only left with one problem... the stairs are reversed! Open the door and stairs retract, close the door and they extend... everything was put back the way it came apart, I'm confused!
Your videos are super helpful! Thanks!
What a great informative video! Great explanations and tips for these steps! I will save the video for future reference! Kudos to your videographer! 👍
Thank you Claude so much 👍
Just an FYI - here's my PLAYLIST page that's packed with other vid's that you may find helpful:
ruclips.net/user/RVstreetplaylists
Thank You 🙏. My Tioga steps just started making a ratcheting noise when the steps go all the way in. A 09 Tioga SL.
Another awesome video!! Love that ending!!
Ya, that was fun to do. 😜
Well shown and explained, THANK YOU! ☺
.martin what i need to do is get me a maintenance log book going great tip!
We have a class c, and thankfully it has an interlock where the steps retract when you start the engine, regardless of if you have them enabled or not.
I've done this, your lesson was excellent.
Love the hair...you look younger and (with all due respect) smarter haha...love your channel!
Thank you Karen. And ya know....I feel smarter too. 💕
Love your channel. Thank you so much.
Ha ha Martin ! I loved the start of this video! Man I loved the information you have given on the steps ! Just priceless!!!… Being a new Motorhome owner this is Awesome!… Thanks again!…… God bless you and Wife! Stay safe!
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Thanks so much for the video. As a bit of an amatuer video maker myself (no illusions more than mom and local flying buddies are gonna watch mine though) I realize you put a lot of effort into making this. Just wanted to say thank you and commend you for a good job. I came across it as I'm planning this weekend to start troubleshooting my steps that stopped working recently. Based on your video, I'm hoping/guessing that it is a fuse on the underside like you showed. Already checked the fuse in the main fuse box(es) and they appear good. I recently had the main engine's alternator go bad such that the voltage regulator was allowing high (higher than 14v) to all the coach's systems. Got the alternator replaced and it seems the steps might be a casualty of the over-voltage. Anyway.... I am digressing.... back to your feedback... thanks for going through all the parts and talking about how it all works. This will be most helpful as I start diagnosing mine in the next day or two. Take care!
Glad the vid was helpful FS. Just take your time and troubleshoot all areas and I'm sure you'll find the issue. 🔧👍
Hello Martin, I also like to take care of things before they break. We are weekend campers so we keep a small pocket tablet in which we make notes, add things needed and or repaired as they come up so at the end of the trip, rip that page out and we take it in the house so we can start working on the list or prepare or what is needed to be done.
As for that step motor, similar to what I have for my awning. I paid dearly for the new motor from the manufacturer. Next time I will head to the auto parts store. Thank you!
That's the way to do it. Staying on top of this stuff. 👍
Thanks so much for your video I didn't know the motor was a window crank motor and I might be able to find a replacement at a auto parts
Great video. Just had to electric motor fail on our steps. I also use Boeshield T9 lubricant/protectant to lube almost everything.
Great info. Thanks for sharing. I once heard someone say, always carry a torque wrench with you and check your wheel lug nuts before leaving each trip. Also, check your tire pressure with a tire pressure gage even if you have a t.p.m.s. installed. 👍👍
Martin, thank you! right now we are stranded with our 2005 Four Winds. Steps wont retract. When I went under saw green wire not attached, ring terminal had rusted thru. I replaced and reset in new location. That did'nt make step work tho. I went ahead a used lube and checked for any debree in linkages. nothing. was trying to find info to manually retract step so could get to place to have worked on, not successful yet.. We do use a step just like yours we are using and bracing under steps. but wish had seen your video sooner.
While watching I saw the magnets on door so checked and lo and behold, our magnets are not meeting. the screen door where magnet is attached is warped and not meeting inside part of door frame, now I know what I need to address, not sure if can fix myself, but don't feel as stupid.
I will be adding your information to my maintenance schedule. Thank you!!
Way to go Kate. 😍
Spot on. Having had problems with my steps before, you hit all the items. Never thought about protectant on ground...you know what I will be doing today. What is “chain wax” and where do you buy? Wife wants to know how dirty the step carpet gets going down the road, especially following a rain. How do you clean? I have a feeling that is my next honey do!
Go back to the video and right underneath the video you'll see SHOW MORE, click that, scroll down and you'll see links to all the products I use right there. Using our links to purchase products is a great way to say "thank you" for making these video's because it supports our channel.
They don't get dirty at all while underway even in the rain. To clean, we just use a broom from time to time and then when I do a full wash & detail which is twice a year, I power wash them along with everything else. If you’ll go to our main YT Channel page-ruclips.net/user/RVstreet-and click PLAYLISTS, then on that page click “RV Motorhome Upgrades, Maintenance and DIY How-To’s” there’s already a wealth of information there. Look for my video in that PLAYLIST titled "Keep your RV looking new & protect it from damaging UV". Thanks Ralph. 👍
Also check with Lippert the serial number for the stairs....there has been a recall on the turn buckle linkage...mine failed/broke when I stepped on it to enter the RV after checking in at a campground and the stairs retracted from my weight and trapped my foot between the steps...good thing I had a good grip on the hand rail and door or things would of been really bad.🤠👍
Thank you for all your time, effort, and videos!
Glad you like them! Thx Robert.
Great video! Thank you!!
Extremely helpful thank you!
Thank you Kathy. 💗
A great service video. Thank you!
My pleasure!
Another great and important video. I saw a step repair vid not long ago where they used a caulking hammer to “repair” them!
Btw, the hair looks good! The golf swing was a great homage.
Oh- the one thing? Going to redistribute storage this week and next week go for the 4-corner weigh. Also replacing stock halogen headlight bulbs with LED.
I also replaced my stock halogen headlight bulbs with LED's. It was plug and play. Have worked great the past 4yrs. Good luck. 👍
RVstreet an idea for a future video!
After I watch your maintenance videos, I go do it on my coach. And yes I even get some of the recommended tools and lubricants you use.
Thank you Charles so much. It's folks like you that make this channel possible. 👍
Awesome video thanks for sharing. Have an issue with my steps, fuse keeps popping immediately and step won’t work. Do you think it could be the control box? Motor works independently
I'm sad to say that Martin has passed away and I don't have the answer to your question. Sorry
Your video came at exactly the right time! My step was working fine however it makes no difference if I have the key in the ignition in off or on position , and if the steps switch is on or off. Every time I open the door the steps comes out and close it it goes back in. It recent got stuck in the out position so I replaced the controller, as well as the motor and gear assy. It works again just as it did before-all the time! My rig is a 1997 Dutchstar DP-3757. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for all you do!
*Every time I open the door the steps comes out and close it it goes back in*
So I'm confused. This is the way it's supposed to work.
*It recent got stuck in the out position so I replaced the controller, as well as the motor and gear assy. It works again just as it did before-all the time!*
So I don't understand your question for help. It's working as it did before. That's the way it's supposed to work.
Clarify if I'm not understanding you right.
@@RVstreet Thanks for getting back to me Marty, I will try to clarify. If I open the door from the outside the steps extends out and then if I turn the step switch in the off position , shouldnt the step stay down unless I put the key in the ignition or turn the key on? If I am parked at a camp site with jacks down no key in ignition I thought with the steps extended and switch of the steps shouils stay extended until I turn the ignition on or turn the steps switch back on, now the steps come out and go back in every time I open the door. Thanks again for your input!
@@aldsldr.3589 *If I open the door from the outside the steps extends out and then if I turn the step switch in the off position , shouldnt the step stay down unless I put the key in the ignition or turn the key on?*
Yes.
Ok so for example, we're parked right now in a CG. Jacks are down and slides out. Step Switch is in the OFF position. Now we can go in and out of the door and the steps stay put.
This is the way it should be set and work when parked.
If I turn ON the step switch, the steps will deploy and retract every time I open and close the door.
On the ignition switch....it over rides the switch. When you put in the key and turn it it tells the steps "I'm going to start the RV now, so bring in the steps". Since you put in the key and turned it, the steps assume you're going to start the engine and it doesn't want you to leave with the steps deployed. So it retracts them. If you open the door it will deploy the steps. If you keep the door open the steps will stay deployed. Again... the ignition switch....over rides the step switch. It's a safety feature.
Just putting in the key into ignition doesn't do anything, it's when you turn it that over rides the step switch.
@@RVstreet I read through your instructions and when I tried it again, it worked just as you said it should. I think maybe I was turn the switch to the off position before exiting the coach, so when I exited the coach and then reached in and turned the switch it worked perfectly- Shazaam! (As Gomer used to say LOL!) Thanks again!
Just saw your video and happy to find you online. Very imformative on a comfortable platform .we just prchased our first rv and the second day the steps would not retract with the door action but only by turning the key. Where should I check first ? Appreciate any help.
I'm sorry to say that Martin has passed away and I don't have the answer to your question. So sorry💔
Good job again Martin. I don’t even have those stairs and I watched to the whole video! You inspire me to keep our Vegas in tip top shape. Would love to see a video on how you keep all your information organized like you mentioned in the other maintenance video. BTW, your haircut looks great and I’m jealous cause you still have more hair than I do. 🤫
As far as maintenance logs, I just keep a large running document. I use Adobe InDeign to do this but you could use Microsoft WORD or a basic text doc. 33 pages and growing. I enter the date, where I was at the time, what I did, parts and tools I used and any special notes. I keep this on my laptop. All my hard copies of manuals are kept in black bag but I also have additional PDF's that I have downloaded from the web in assorted folders and kept in alphabetical order. 👍
RVstreet perfect, thanks, I see you are up early too! You are retired you know! Me, not so much. Off to work. Got an addition to build before winter. Thanks for all the great videos and prompt replies.
It's on my PM list!! Thank you 😊 Your so smart!!
R U Subbed Kellie? I've got bunch of really good stuff coming up.
Or maybe check these vid's out. They also may be helpful to ya.
ruclips.net/user/RVstreetplaylists
@@RVstreet I'm overwhelmed with stuff!! LOL 😆 I'm on my own with getting my rig straight!! Got tpms coming next week and a duel wireless camera setup also. Need new monitoring system!! This one lies!!! LOL!!! Major PM is in full swing!! I'm watching 👀
@@littleweasel1957ify thx Kellie. I totally understand how some people can get overwhelmed. It seems like a lot when you first start out. You've probably heard me say in some of my videos that I took 18 months to get our rig ready before we went FT. BUT....don't get overwhelmed, make yourself a punch list, put top priority things at the top of the list and then take them one at a time. Complete that item and then check it off the list. Over time you'll see that list shrink and you'll see that you're really starting to make some progress. I'm proud of the fact that you're motivated and determined to tackle these things and Major PM is in full swing. GO Kellie. 🔧 💗
@@RVstreet Thanks for the advice!! Appreciate you guys!!
Hysterical Martin
You never cease to amaze me on your commitment to maintaining your rig. My motorhome is 4 years old and the kwikee steps are rusting already. Do you have any suggestions for grinding the rust and repainting the steps and hinges? Thank you.
Do not grind off rust. To abrasive.
Remove any step covers, lightly sand and give it a couple three coats of black Rust-oleum. OR....I actually have a dealing with light RUST vid coming out in the near future if you want to wait and watch that first. Or do what I said above. Once re-painted, do a full service on the steps.
thx Neil. 👍
Thanks for great video and info. Steps rebuilt and working smooth:)) But when retracted, the dash alert shows step meaning it is out...Cannot figure out how to get it to go off when retracted...Perfect otherwise...any info appreciated..Tnx
I have to say with a heavy heart that Martin has passed away and I don't have the answer to your question. Sorry
I her hair cut 👍 good work 👍
Really good video
Thank you Martin. Watch your video My steps quit working. Will use your video. Will up date when I am to
Great video! Nice haircut too! But I think you can still rock the bandana.... signature rv street
Thanks for the great video. I was hoping to find a solution to my specific problem. When on shore power, my steps work perfectly..but when on battery, they keep trying to go out or retract even though they have performed properly. In other words, they will retract and keep clicking as if they have not retracted and vice versa the other way depending on the function of the door.
Well, this video won't solve every issue, but it will solve 95% of them. Have you cleaned and checked *ALL your electrical connections* including the ground and the main controller connector as I showed? Check the fuse, it may be corroded and the power signal may be getting interrupted from the batt bay.....etc...etc...
Always start with the common issues first. Methodically check each item to eliminate what it isn't and that will reveal what the problem has to be.
Check your factory wiring diagrams for that area and see how it's wired into your house batt's. Then trace all connections to there and do the same as above, Clean and check.
It's definitely an electrical issue and that could-and I mean could-include that the controller went bad. Don't buy a new one until you do all what I outlined above and more. Throwing money at it is not the procedure. Diagnose the problem, if a part has be proven to be bad, then replace that part. I don't know the history of your RV, but controllers and other operational issues can and do go out from age, subjected to a lot of rain, humidity, salt....like staying near beaches or salt water and the main one......lack of maintenance.
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Thanks Martin! I have to reseal all the holes under our coach with foam. So I will do the steps too.
Had a weird thing happen on a trip. It was raining and we were getting quite a bit of water coming out of the shower while driving. After getting home, I got under the coach and found old foam and poorly installed. Went under to clear out the old foam and couldn't believe what I found. Thor had cut a 9"x9" hole through the floor under the shower drain. I am guessing that they used the block that was cut out as a plug and taped it up on the bottom. At some point the tape let go and the plug is gone. So exposed water pipes, electrical wiring, heat ductwork, and exposed drains. The hole is above the driverside dual wheels. Very hard to see.
Again, thank you for the step video!
Respectfully, Kevin
I know right? Crazy. It would be a very good thing if everybody got up under their coach and inspect everything inch-by-inch under their RV for any possible failure points and deal with with them now. When we initially got our coach, I spent 3 days doing those very things. Found lots of stuff that needed tending to. 👍
Martin, Got under the coach today. Expanding foamed all the holes that had bad foam, filled the 9x9 hole with 2.5" closed cell hard foam and Flexsealed it black to match the bottom, and for good measure cleaned and lubed the steps. Thank you so much for the info you show in your videos!
Respectfully, Kevin
Wow I really learned a lot from your video! Thanks so much!
You are so welcome!
Martin.. thankyou for doing this video.. my steps on my 2011 Vista have been giving me some difficulties ... the steps open to there full length then come in about an inch then out to the full length .. this happens about 5 times and makes a banging noise ... so bizarre. They steps retract and do the same thing.. Now after watching the video I am confident its the motor and gear so I will change them. I will of course speak to the rep from AM and/or Kwikie steps first before I order to confirm its not the controller. Just wanted to say thanks again for your great video. Cheers from Canada
Look at the magnetic switch on the door first. That is a big culprit of these kind of symptoms. If that doesn't work try my other troubleshooting tips. If none of those work, then replace the motor & gear box.
Great video Martin
Our 2014 Georgetown 328 steps go half way then stop and make a horrible grinding noise
I suspect gear box is off track or damaged somehow
Keith
Do the routine maintenance first then re-assess. If that doesn't fix it, then by your description it does sound like a trashed gear box. If that's the case, I'd replace both the motor and gear box while your at it. Then just perform your routine maintenance from there on out and they should last for years and years. 👍
Good stuff on the hair cut.
Looks good.
Thank you❤
Nice haircut, Thanks I really enjoy your videos
I appreciate that!