Note: Hey guys! After doing some post stream research I was entirely incorrect about the Dioscuri. Must have been a memory lapse on a different set of figures. But, given that both got it correct it would not effect the score outcome. Thought I'd clear that up!
Thought that it made sense if you accepted Fate's syncretism between Dioscuri and Lugalirra and Meslamtaea, the Mesopotamian twin gods of the Gemini constellation, but nope, somehow, across all of history, all gods associated with the Gemini were always both male.
It would be nice if type/moon was a bit more brave with creating servants. They made Edison into the abomination he is because adding a fatified president would get some Texan to send death threats to delight works
@@twinkiesmaster69 Nasuverse refers to the multiverse originally penned by Kinoko Nasu: The Garden of Sinners, Notes, Tsukihime, Fate Stay Night etc et cetera.
@@artofthepossible7329 That's one of the more interesting parts of the Nasuverse, a lot of the genderbends(or major lore changes) do have some sort of precedence. Just that precedence is usually based on obscure bullshit almost no one knows about. Like the fact there are older versions of the King Arthur legends that claim Arthur was a woman in disguise. It's just like 900 years old, and a version no one ever cared about.
The Daikokuten servant you roll in the gacha is 100% male. You never see him because he's too lazy to ever show up when you summon him. Every time you try, his maids just show up and go "sorry, Daikokuten couldn't make it this time, but he did send us to help you". So he's not a genderbend by any stretch. Just off-screen somewhere.
1:04:01 Yes, that is Cynthia fused with Garchomp and a being from Indian legends/mythology as part of the Pokemon Collab, following her research into another world. We also have Lusamine fused with Pheromosa and a famous valkyrie following the events of Sun/Moon and her wormhole research while trying to find her husband, while being overcome with madness as a result.
Are you confusing Pollux from the myth with one of their five sisters? Castor and Pollux are explicitly stated to be half-brothers. Their sisters are Timandra, Phoebe, Philonoe, Helen of Troy and Clytemnestra.
Nah they genderbent one of the two I forget which one I think Pollux into a girl. He said the only reason that’s apparent is so they could use a pair of twin voice actors
@@joa513quin I knew one was gender-bent. They kept going on in the video that that some legends make them brother and sister but I have never heard of that. Hence why I assumed Klidge confused Pollux with one of his sisters.
@@firepuppies4086 Yep. Next time I play P3P I am taking the Shinji route because that death hit me hard. I’ll try to get the ending where Chidori lives as well.
Fun fact on yangufei : china use to value a women who has a small feet which lead to every parent in that era to break their daughter feet(bone) in half and force them to wear small shoe to control feet growth, the process happen when the kid are young and it happen everyday. Hence the weird small feet
The term for that is "lotus feet". And the shoe being used is metal. I remember going to an exhibit where they have preserved corpses of people and that is one of the subjects. Imagine the feet being squeezed so that it is smaller.
That did exist earlier than the Qing dynasty (which was when it was big), but the Tang liked more rounded women. On top of that, she was a famous dancer so she couldn't have done it.
Ok in all honesty, Drake can be a trick question for people who don’t know AND people who know. Cause In grand order she’s actually genderbent Francis Drake. But in extra she’s not even Francis Drake, she’s Queen Elizabeth COSPLAYING as Francis Drake. So she could be a fast or a curve ball! Putting her in is kinda mean in of itself! Edit: shit he knew and still put it in.
Wait isn't kama a male in the nasuverse and it's just that he used sakura as a host? Plus we already have canon art of a male version from Kama's interlude
There is a male version of kama in game, which makes them one of three individuals to show up in both genders, og saber and another that can't spell the name of.
I saw Baobhan on the thumbnail so i had to come in and say this: The Fairy Knights are not genderbent version of the round table dudes, they're their own person who are just borrowing their saint graph.
Im just sad that with the main interlude of imaginary scramble coming to jp and the banners for it....we didn't get a single buff for him and other characters in the story
I mean.... that's not really a fair comparison, Mandricardo is a ST servant. Nemo is a farmer. Unless your farming 90++ nodes running Double Castoria and Oberon or something. Mandi is gonna do more damage alot of the times.
Is no one gonna point out that Pollux is a Genderbend? And it's not even an amalgamation vague genderbend like Sancho but a straight up genderbend without any reason whatsoever
I think it was meant to be a contrast to the twins in Olympus, possibly even more than that. But I feel if there was, the idea was likely scrapped or put aside.
Watched this whilst gathering QP for Van Gogh's skills with a friend's Summer B.B., she can be DISGUSTINGLY powerful if you manage to lock in two or three of her quick cards.
It's more that they're supposed to be mostly consistent, rather than randomly happening. That characters who are female in Fate are female... because they've always been. Artoria, in Fate's setting, was *always* a female. Same with most of them. Da Vinci is a female because he gave himself magical plastic surgery, post-summoning, and is an exception with an actual purpose. These aren't deep reasons, or Doylist reasons. But internally to the setting, characters don't suddenly change their sex after death. And then there's Jacques de Molay and Van Gogh. Who are because of Foreigner bullshit.
@@willofthewinds3222 Yes. Clytie would not be Van Gogh if not for foreigner bullshit - an outsider divinity manipulating a spirit origin in a way that wouldn't otherwise happen. Jacques is the same thing, but using a single Spirit Origin, not two fused ones.
Melusine and Vritra was so tricky that i started questioning my knowledge about myths and folklores I still waiting for Chopin, Copernicus or other servant from poland .... mostly those two I think Fgo Jesus is like the final step for them. First they should add Moses, Cain/Abel, Lot etc. ...in my opinion
We've gotta wait for Noah to get added but at least he's confirmed. I don't know the full details, but speculatively, Jesus would be a savior class from Extella lore, which is OP af
"Always been"? Lolno. Nemo is coping hard. There _have_ been good reasons for some of them, usually the ones that _didn't_ originate in FGO. Artoria (and by extension Mordred) being genderbent adds a lot to the character(s), Frankenstein's Monster makes perfect sense since they simply swapped the order Frankenstein created the male and female monsters in, and Jack the Ripper... isn't a genderbend by sheer technicality, though I like to think she could be summoned with the appearance of any of the kids within her Bounded Field and she simply appeared in the form most suitable to Reika. "The game is stupid." Yeah, the merging Heroic Spirits and alternate universe things are way out of hand, half the Servants aren't actually what they're supposed to be at this point. It actively makes me like Servants less; I'd much rather see interesting interpretations of the myths, legends, and history. It's true, Rin was so ignorant when she said the Archer class was made up of archers. "Anubis has the dog head" It's a jackal, technically. "She is an incarnation of Horus." All Pharaohs supposedly share that distinction, so it's not specific to her. Love the Kirby music, especially Air Ride.
I think you mean, "good reasons" as in Doylist ones. When Nemo is clearly talking about Watsonian reasons. Nemo doesn't care that Artoria being female is "interesting as a character arc", Nemo cares about "why is the king of the Britons a chick". Yes, Ushiwaka and others are pretty much just to rebalance the gender ratio, but from Nemo's perspective, they're the same person as they were in "history". Da Vinci did it himself. Musashi isn't actually Musashi. Etc. But a man being summoned as a female? Weird. There *should* be a meaningful reason that the Servant themselves can explain. On the other hand, there's Jacques de Molay, both of them. Who have "poor" Watsonian logic (a space alien did it), but good Doylist ones (unlike Van Gogh, being used to the male design beforehand ups the creepy factor significantly). Similarly, Van Gogh is female for a meaningful Doylist reason, it's just not executed as effectively. (Admittedly, Paul Bunyan is also the same case of weirdness, but let's accept that Riyo is some sort of monstrous space alien.)
As a Latina I cannot emphasize enough how excited I was when bird looking dude said “I KNOW THAT FACKER” and then pointed out DON QUIXOTE the legend When he comes out on NA easy grail to 90… maybe even 100 ngl.
So there are three classes of genderbent characters from what I can tell: The Incorrect Information, who are figures who were stretched to fit the idea that we just misinterpreted their identities. This one tends to have the ones that are the biggest stretches imo. Artoria, Ushi, Jing Ke, Pollux, etc. The Actual Genderbends, who directly change gender in-story despite being in-universe the other. This includes Pseudo-Servants who would be possessing a character of a different gender. Red Hare, Van Gogh, Ganesha, Quetz, Foreigner de Molay, etc. The Joke characters, who are genderbent specifically because Fate/ is making fun of itself about how often its done so. Okita and Bunyan are the iconics of this group.
I might want to point out that besides some joke characters who Type/Moon never addresses why they are female, most gender ends, especially serious story ones, have excuses for them. Be it as simple as “history was wrong/falsified”, or they are divinities who live by body jumping and the god just chose that vessel (Quetz), or they were forcibly genderswapped (future servant), etc. Yeah, the excuses may be flimsy but that does not mean Nemo is incorrect.
Wukong (Monkey King) is actually the protagonist of journey to the west. Sanzang, while being the most important person, is merely a plot device. I mean... the first couple chapter(?) of the story revolves around Wukong alone...
You'd think that the world would be a matriarchy considering how many genderbends are in this game. That throughout history females would be draft eligible, work in mines, etc. etc.
Caenis is, funnily enough, a reverse genderbent, Caenis was born female, one so beautiful that Poseidon raped her. He then concede her as a sort of compensation and she asked for becoming a male with an impregnable body to never have to go through that again and changed her name to Caenus. Because this is Caenis and not Caenus, she is summoned as a woman but with a similar constitution to her male counterpart.
@@eduardopantoja9115 They'll probably put Saver class servants under a pre-existing class like how they put the Voyager class into Foreigner and the Faker class into Pretender
The gender thing has to do with in lore, there is always some reason as to why the gender is different. Whether that reason is good or makes sense is an entirely different story. The Irl reason is obviously because history and mythology are heavily on the male side, so they need to even things out a bit. Caenis/Caenus is the sole exception that was gender bent in their own story.
not true.... caenis in both lore and myth is a man... a trans man in that case fgo making him look like a woman is at best a genderbent and at worst pretty disrespectful to his myth... considering everything he went through
@@KikadaArty Caenis in myth is literally only a woman, she changed her name when becoming a man. From the Wikipedia: "Caeneus was originally a woman named Caenis who was transformed into a man[6][7] by the sea-god Poseidon.[8]"
@@KikadaArty except Caenis is the woman from Thessaly, and Caeneus is the Tyrant King. FGO Caenis has her female body, but has the personality of Caeneus. As such Caenis really doesn’t care if you call them he/she as long as you don’t insinuate they’re acting like some weak willed woman. Hell, they even accept that, currently, they are a woman, whether they like it or not. Wodime called Caenis by male pronouns, but the player character and Chaldea members refer to them by female pronouns. The only reason for Caenis having Caeneus’ personality, from a lore standpoint, is that when Caeneus died, Poseidon’s gift was undone, and so he returned to being Caenis before transforming into a golden bird and flying away. From a game perspective, it’s just an excuse to have Caeneus be female without bending the rules too much.
@@adrastos8401 did u read what you said? TRANSFORMED INTO A MAN.... he was born a woman but became a man.... you literaly just wrote that directly from Wikipedia... became a man
@@KikadaArty Yes. " he was born a woman but became a man." aka he was both in myth. Also notably "Caenis" specifically refers to them as a female. What contradicts what I said or supports you in any way, shape, or form? Them transforming into a man at one point, doesn't mean Fate genderbent them.
Why does fate genderbend one simple reason fan service. Yet they exclude my exclude the service I want cause im a gay male maybe ( just a joke). Id spend my whole wallet on a summer a Iskander or Napoleon or Leonidas in thongs or less( not a joke ). Though Leonidas kinda does already.
man, this video was actually tricky okita was a lucky guess because I was fairly certain the other two could not possibly be it, I legit didn't know about sanzang and the third turn I have no clue either
depends on the version, not much importance is given to pollux in myths as s/he is death fodder to motivate castor, as a result versions vary on whether pollux is male or female
It kind of still is tho. The servant should and kind of still is Katsushika. But thaks to Cuthulu doing shit he manefested as the squid and pulled her daugther with him to act in his behalf. Thst counts
Note: Hey guys! After doing some post stream research I was entirely incorrect about the Dioscuri. Must have been a memory lapse on a different set of figures. But, given that both got it correct it would not effect the score outcome. Thought I'd clear that up!
I was so sure that Sancho was the trick question one because you were going to say "she is dulcinea so it doesn't count as genderbend"
Thought that it made sense if you accepted Fate's syncretism between Dioscuri and Lugalirra and Meslamtaea, the Mesopotamian twin gods of the Gemini constellation, but nope, somehow, across all of history, all gods associated with the Gemini were always both male.
Thank you. No goat stew for now.
The Dioscuri do have two sisters, Helen and Clytemnestra. Maybe that's where your confusion came from.
Surely their must be one culture that looked at the constellation as brother and sister
Gender bent Jesus would collapse the very fandom into a Singularity. And she would still have the hardest abs.
It would be nice if type/moon was a bit more brave with creating servants. They made Edison into the abomination he is because adding a fatified president would get some Texan to send death threats to delight works
No doubt due to all that CrossFit
Divinity ex, Jacobs limbs, he'd join the luchador wrestling club
While Genderbent Jesus would be hilarious, I want (Jo)shua son of (Jo)sef. Collab event with Araki. Literally was the first JoJo.
@@2ndlegend125 shit, you right
49:10 you reckon they'd survive a 'Guess which fate servant is an archer' game? lol
Don’t give me ideas cause I’ll do it
@@klidge Do it please!
@@klidge 😉
Easy: a gun is a bow, a sword is a bow, your bare hand is a bow, a wand is a bow and in desperate measures a bow can serve as a bow
@@jvts8916 sheep and dolphins as well
you know you have been far too deep in the nasu rabbit hole, that it took you a minute to realise okita is genderbent
Tbf, Okita Souji being portrayed as a female (or played by one) has plenty of precedence.
Whats nasu
@@twinkiesmaster69 Nasuverse refers to the multiverse originally penned by Kinoko Nasu: The Garden of Sinners, Notes, Tsukihime, Fate Stay Night etc et cetera.
@@twinkiesmaster69 Nasu is the creator of our crippling addiction.
@@artofthepossible7329 That's one of the more interesting parts of the Nasuverse, a lot of the genderbends(or major lore changes) do have some sort of precedence. Just that precedence is usually based on obscure bullshit almost no one knows about. Like the fact there are older versions of the King Arthur legends that claim Arthur was a woman in disguise. It's just like 900 years old, and a version no one ever cared about.
The Daikokuten servant you roll in the gacha is 100% male. You never see him because he's too lazy to ever show up when you summon him. Every time you try, his maids just show up and go "sorry, Daikokuten couldn't make it this time, but he did send us to help you".
So he's not a genderbend by any stretch. Just off-screen somewhere.
1:04:01 Yes, that is Cynthia fused with Garchomp and a being from Indian legends/mythology as part of the Pokemon Collab, following her research into another world.
We also have Lusamine fused with Pheromosa and a famous valkyrie following the events of Sun/Moon and her wormhole research while trying to find her husband, while being overcome with madness as a result.
Are you confusing Pollux from the myth with one of their five sisters? Castor and Pollux are explicitly stated to be half-brothers. Their sisters are Timandra, Phoebe, Philonoe, Helen of Troy and Clytemnestra.
Nah they genderbent one of the two I forget which one I think Pollux into a girl. He said the only reason that’s apparent is so they could use a pair of twin voice actors
@@joa513quin I knew one was gender-bent. They kept going on in the video that that some legends make them brother and sister but I have never heard of that. Hence why I assumed Klidge confused Pollux with one of his sisters.
@@calebgoodman3028 ah I gotcha sorry bout that
Just gotta remember for those two, Akihiko and Shinjiro
@@firepuppies4086 Yep. Next time I play P3P I am taking the Shinji route because that death hit me hard. I’ll try to get the ending where Chidori lives as well.
Yang Gui Fei probably has messed up feet because of art, but if you want a historical justification, several empires in China practiced footbinding.
I love how they can have it correct the first time.....and then they start arguing and getting things wrong....
Fun fact on yangufei : china use to value a women who has a small feet which lead to every parent in that era to break their daughter feet(bone) in half and force them to wear small shoe to control feet growth, the process happen when the kid are young and it happen everyday. Hence the weird small feet
U3u boutique feets
I'm not even sure what you mean. They're not that small. Look at her final ascension art.
Yeah I heard a lot about this tradition in china it was called footbinding I guess? It became very popular in 10th century for some weird reason
The term for that is "lotus feet". And the shoe being used is metal. I remember going to an exhibit where they have preserved corpses of people and that is one of the subjects. Imagine the feet being squeezed so that it is smaller.
That did exist earlier than the Qing dynasty (which was when it was big), but the Tang liked more rounded women. On top of that, she was a famous dancer so she couldn't have done it.
Ok in all honesty, Drake can be a trick question for people who don’t know AND people who know.
Cause In grand order she’s actually genderbent Francis Drake. But in extra she’s not even Francis Drake, she’s Queen Elizabeth COSPLAYING as Francis Drake.
So she could be a fast or a curve ball! Putting her in is kinda mean in of itself!
Edit: shit he knew and still put it in.
Is this a meme? It's just some fan theory right?
@@ARandomGuy24 nope. In the moon, Drake isn’t genderbend Drake, but grand order say it IS genderbend Francis Drake.
@@destroyercreater98pretty sure it's just the main characters not knowing that Drake is actually Queen Elizabeth
Wait isn't kama a male in the nasuverse and it's just that he used sakura as a host?
Plus we already have canon art of a male version from Kama's interlude
The guy become genderfluid and lost his identity after getting burned by Shiva
@@williamkwl6153 shout out to conceptualy becoming formless, got to be my favorite gender.
There is a male version of kama in game, which makes them one of three individuals to show up in both genders, og saber and another that can't spell the name of.
I saw Baobhan on the thumbnail so i had to come in and say this: The Fairy Knights are not genderbent version of the round table dudes, they're their own person who are just borrowing their saint graph.
Nemo NP1 can also be outdamaged when not on a water field by a 3*. Mandricardo is an excellent servant
or nemo is just avg to bad....dont get me wrong i love my boi but they need to get him his buff
@@thereddeads fair. But I love my grailed Mandricardo so I tend to bring him to fights anyway.
Im just sad that with the main interlude of imaginary scramble coming to jp and the banners for it....we didn't get a single buff for him and other characters in the story
@@thereddeads ouch that sucks.
I mean.... that's not really a fair comparison, Mandricardo is a ST servant. Nemo is a farmer. Unless your farming 90++ nodes running Double Castoria and Oberon or something. Mandi is gonna do more damage alot of the times.
it was always fun seeing people get confuse and try to process fate genderbend char
Is no one gonna point out that Pollux is a Genderbend? And it's not even an amalgamation vague genderbend like Sancho but a straight up genderbend without any reason whatsoever
But they're are brother and sister a few legends outside of fate that's a reason
I owe you a apology my bad my fault i believe something online without confirming
I think it was meant to be a contrast to the twins in Olympus, possibly even more than that. But I feel if there was, the idea was likely scrapped or put aside.
@@seishinaozora5839 I think the actual reason was so they could hire an Older Sister and Younger Brother who are both famous Seiyuu.
They did not have to give an excuse because they are gods and the only important thing is that they are twins.
Watched this whilst gathering QP for Van Gogh's skills with a friend's Summer B.B., she can be DISGUSTINGLY powerful if you manage to lock in two or three of her quick cards.
Wait isn't Bazette an original Type-Moon character?
Bazette is. But she's pseudo servant for Mannan Mac Lir
Her body was used for another Servant. Like they did with Sakura, Taiga, Rin and Waver.
@@calebgoodman3028 Pretty sure that Waver is the consciousness in control of Zhiang.
I love how long it took them to understand exactly how this worked.
im pretty sure that the line of nemo was an intentional joke about the genderbends from the writters.
It's more that they're supposed to be mostly consistent, rather than randomly happening. That characters who are female in Fate are female... because they've always been. Artoria, in Fate's setting, was *always* a female. Same with most of them. Da Vinci is a female because he gave himself magical plastic surgery, post-summoning, and is an exception with an actual purpose.
These aren't deep reasons, or Doylist reasons. But internally to the setting, characters don't suddenly change their sex after death.
And then there's Jacques de Molay and Van Gogh. Who are because of Foreigner bullshit.
@@AusSP Isn't Van Gogh female specifically because she's mostly a nymph, while only barely providing any actual Van Gogh?
@@willofthewinds3222 Yes. Clytie would not be Van Gogh if not for foreigner bullshit - an outsider divinity manipulating a spirit origin in a way that wouldn't otherwise happen. Jacques is the same thing, but using a single Spirit Origin, not two fused ones.
You know it's a Klidge Quiz if the contestants take more than five minutes to think of an answer and still get it wrong.
Melusine and Vritra was so tricky that i started questioning my knowledge about myths and folklores
I still waiting for Chopin, Copernicus or other servant from poland .... mostly those two
I think Fgo Jesus is like the final step for them. First they should add Moses, Cain/Abel, Lot etc. ...in my opinion
We've gotta wait for Noah to get added but at least he's confirmed. I don't know the full details, but speculatively, Jesus would be a savior class from Extella lore, which is OP af
@@RoostaTeetha i mean Noah is added, just not in mobile, he’s grand rider in arcade
@@ubermario You are correct, however, I refuse to acknowledge the existence of Arcade out of spite
I want Job or Jeremiah to be added
Cain should be a Grand Assassin candidate, or maybe a Grand Berserker.
His Noble Phantasm should be the Murder Rock.
"Always been"? Lolno. Nemo is coping hard. There _have_ been good reasons for some of them, usually the ones that _didn't_ originate in FGO. Artoria (and by extension Mordred) being genderbent adds a lot to the character(s), Frankenstein's Monster makes perfect sense since they simply swapped the order Frankenstein created the male and female monsters in, and Jack the Ripper... isn't a genderbend by sheer technicality, though I like to think she could be summoned with the appearance of any of the kids within her Bounded Field and she simply appeared in the form most suitable to Reika.
"The game is stupid." Yeah, the merging Heroic Spirits and alternate universe things are way out of hand, half the Servants aren't actually what they're supposed to be at this point. It actively makes me like Servants less; I'd much rather see interesting interpretations of the myths, legends, and history.
It's true, Rin was so ignorant when she said the Archer class was made up of archers.
"Anubis has the dog head" It's a jackal, technically.
"She is an incarnation of Horus." All Pharaohs supposedly share that distinction, so it's not specific to her.
Love the Kirby music, especially Air Ride.
I think you mean, "good reasons" as in Doylist ones. When Nemo is clearly talking about Watsonian reasons. Nemo doesn't care that Artoria being female is "interesting as a character arc", Nemo cares about "why is the king of the Britons a chick".
Yes, Ushiwaka and others are pretty much just to rebalance the gender ratio, but from Nemo's perspective, they're the same person as they were in "history". Da Vinci did it himself. Musashi isn't actually Musashi. Etc. But a man being summoned as a female? Weird. There *should* be a meaningful reason that the Servant themselves can explain.
On the other hand, there's Jacques de Molay, both of them. Who have "poor" Watsonian logic (a space alien did it), but good Doylist ones (unlike Van Gogh, being used to the male design beforehand ups the creepy factor significantly). Similarly, Van Gogh is female for a meaningful Doylist reason, it's just not executed as effectively.
(Admittedly, Paul Bunyan is also the same case of weirdness, but let's accept that Riyo is some sort of monstrous space alien.)
@@AusSP FGO Musashi is actually the Musashi from another Earth that doesn't exist anymore.
After watching Edison's Frankenstein I think FGO's depiction of monster frankenstein pretty acurate in lore.
As a Latina I cannot emphasize enough how excited I was when bird looking dude said “I KNOW THAT FACKER” and then pointed out DON QUIXOTE the legend
When he comes out on NA easy grail to 90… maybe even 100 ngl.
So there are three classes of genderbent characters from what I can tell:
The Incorrect Information, who are figures who were stretched to fit the idea that we just misinterpreted their identities. This one tends to have the ones that are the biggest stretches imo. Artoria, Ushi, Jing Ke, Pollux, etc.
The Actual Genderbends, who directly change gender in-story despite being in-universe the other. This includes Pseudo-Servants who would be possessing a character of a different gender. Red Hare, Van Gogh, Ganesha, Quetz, Foreigner de Molay, etc.
The Joke characters, who are genderbent specifically because Fate/ is making fun of itself about how often its done so. Okita and Bunyan are the iconics of this group.
I want Fate fans trying to guess Servants by looking at historical pictures.
I might want to point out that besides some joke characters who Type/Moon never addresses why they are female, most gender ends, especially serious story ones, have excuses for them. Be it as simple as “history was wrong/falsified”, or they are divinities who live by body jumping and the god just chose that vessel (Quetz), or they were forcibly genderswapped (future servant), etc. Yeah, the excuses may be flimsy but that does not mean Nemo is incorrect.
i absolutely NEED the kirby song at 13:15 i remember it vividly but i cant remember its name
Heyyooo folks it's me
i changed up my PFP for Halloween! 🎃
Wukong (Monkey King) is actually the protagonist of journey to the west. Sanzang, while being the most important person, is merely a plot device.
I mean... the first couple chapter(?) of the story revolves around Wukong alone...
Perfection but of friends hanging out talking about gender bends lol
You'd think that the world would be a matriarchy considering how many genderbends are in this game. That throughout history females would be draft eligible, work in mines, etc. etc.
i never noticed anne bonnys wierd stomach until now, she looks pregnant.
.........she did have several children.........and the other did die in labor................
Caenis is, funnily enough, a reverse genderbent, Caenis was born female, one so beautiful that Poseidon raped her. He then concede her as a sort of compensation and she asked for becoming a male with an impregnable body to never have to go through that again and changed her name to Caenus.
Because this is Caenis and not Caenus, she is summoned as a woman but with a similar constitution to her male counterpart.
1:04:08 wow he get it unintentionally that there dragon except for one of them
If they put Jesus then he would be the saver class.
He would have a guts skill, i just know it
@@NoOne-ds7pw A delayed guts by 3 turns.
But I'm not sure how they'll implement the savior class gameplay wise
@@eduardopantoja9115 They'll probably put Saver class servants under a pre-existing class like how they put the Voyager class into Foreigner and the Faker class into Pretender
@@reshiram36 Saver under Ruler maybe?
The gender thing has to do with in lore, there is always some reason as to why the gender is different. Whether that reason is good or makes sense is an entirely different story.
The Irl reason is obviously because history and mythology are heavily on the male side, so they need to even things out a bit.
Caenis/Caenus is the sole exception that was gender bent in their own story.
Paul Bunyan
1:40 Sanest Fate Genderbend Enthusiast
Is Caenis genderbent if she was genderbent in her story? So confusing. Knew she was gonna show up
Arent the daikokuten just 2 mice given self awareness and not the god himself so does it count
They’re appearing under the saint graph of Daikokuten so I’m allowing it
@@klidge ah ok
@@klidge as a none fate fans these words are either a demonic ritual instructions or reason to start a crusade
45:20 So much Nya on this
I disagree on Caenis. In both lore and Fate she/he can appear in either gender
not true.... caenis in both lore and myth is a man... a trans man in that case
fgo making him look like a woman is at best a genderbent and at worst pretty disrespectful to his myth... considering everything he went through
@@KikadaArty Caenis in myth is literally only a woman, she changed her name when becoming a man.
From the Wikipedia:
"Caeneus was originally a woman named Caenis who was transformed into a man[6][7] by the sea-god Poseidon.[8]"
@@KikadaArty except Caenis is the woman from Thessaly, and Caeneus is the Tyrant King. FGO Caenis has her female body, but has the personality of Caeneus. As such Caenis really doesn’t care if you call them he/she as long as you don’t insinuate they’re acting like some weak willed woman. Hell, they even accept that, currently, they are a woman, whether they like it or not. Wodime called Caenis by male pronouns, but the player character and Chaldea members refer to them by female pronouns. The only reason for Caenis having Caeneus’ personality, from a lore standpoint, is that when Caeneus died, Poseidon’s gift was undone, and so he returned to being Caenis before transforming into a golden bird and flying away.
From a game perspective, it’s just an excuse to have Caeneus be female without bending the rules too much.
@@adrastos8401 did u read what you said? TRANSFORMED INTO A MAN.... he was born a woman but became a man.... you literaly just wrote that directly from Wikipedia... became a man
@@KikadaArty Yes. " he was born a woman but became a man." aka he was both in myth. Also notably "Caenis" specifically refers to them as a female.
What contradicts what I said or supports you in any way, shape, or form? Them transforming into a man at one point, doesn't mean Fate genderbent them.
1:45 *buru nyuu*
Why is there no audio?
Just double checked and there’s audio on my end. Could be a YT issue on yours?
Sorry no audio as well
Weird I have fine audio
@@HappyGamer-em3wl no audio for a while ,then I switch to another video, and switch back
@@A_itsar yeah seems like a RUclips bug
Channel got wiped, can't see the image
Wait okita souji is genderbent? Man I could've sworn it was gintama that genderbent souji into sougo
Yes!! I love these types of vids
Using Caenis is such a troll 😅
Yessss I love these videos!
1:20:13 Hehehe I sneaky moments
Sancho is funny name cuz it translates as side chick 👀
Why does fate genderbend one simple reason fan service.
Yet they exclude my exclude the service I want cause im a gay male maybe ( just a joke). Id spend my whole wallet on a summer a Iskander or Napoleon or Leonidas in thongs or less( not a joke ). Though Leonidas kinda does already.
Bro you sus asf and i like it
Ye I'm not gay, but I can appreciate art, give us male summer servants already lasagna!
man, this video was actually tricky
okita was a lucky guess because I was fairly certain the other two could not possibly be it, I legit didn't know about sanzang and the third turn I have no clue either
Yang Guifei is Sanzang's wife in real life
Loved this stream
18:00 currently have her
Wait, isn't Pollux Genderblend as well?
depends on the version, not much importance is given to pollux in myths as s/he is death fodder to motivate castor, as a result versions vary on whether pollux is male or female
Hokusai Katsushisa is not genderbent, the girl is his daughter.
Hokusai Oi actually assisted him paint and drew paintings of her own.
Even better, her dad, Hokusai Katsushisa is the optopus that accompanies her
That's why this servant is called simply Hokusai.
It kind of still is tho. The servant should and kind of still is Katsushika. But thaks to Cuthulu doing shit he manefested as the squid and pulled her daugther with him to act in his behalf. Thst counts
i find the lack of Raikou disturbing
32:45 geez you made it too easy lol
Also, checking...No, there are no Polish Servants in FGO....
nor Brazilians
and one middle eastern when their are so many more
@@durrangodsgrief6503 wait isnt Arash a figure in Iranian mythology?
1:24:15 lol
The one piece
klidge ur friends are based af hahahaha im rofl rn hahahaha
Team Roblox on top💀
I want auto-sub.
Jesus is confirmed a Savior class servant
1:04:10 wow he get it unintentionally that there dragon except for one of them