I don’t care if anyone thinks 4014 is overrated! He deserves all the fame he has, and I was blown away when I saw him in person. I was delighted to see 4018, 4006, and 4012, as well. Absolutely UP’s largest and finest.
I was more impressed to see 4014 already pull quite the train and at the same time, help push a stalled train up the grade at the very same time. That's intense power for an ancient locomotive
@@mcnielentertainment Generally speaking steam locos at that scale are capable of putting down more tractive effort than a similar sized diesel. The diesel has the steam trains on basically everything else. But it's still awesome watching a big old train just SHOVE a revenue train while on it's way to it's next tour stop.
I certainly don't think #4014 (or any of the other Big Boys) are overrated. I had the opportunity to see that magnificent engine (along with UP #844) in Utah about five years ago, and it was indeed an experience that couldn't be replicated with watching videos. I've also seen #4012 on display at Steamtown, though it's been a while since I last was there.
@jesseusgrantcanales To be precise, that's actually not right either. The last run revenue run by a Union Pacific steam locomotive was made on, you are correct, July 21st 1959, but was made by 4015. The 4000's were placed in dead storage in various places and by 1961 were being donated or scrapped. 4005 actually sat in storage in the Green River roundhouse until 1967 before being donated.
Big Boy 4014 is not overrated. He deserves all the attention he gets. 4014 is incredible! He's huge and he actually works. And in 2023, 4014 proved to be a hero pushing that freight train. The Big Boy is amazing and 4014 absolutely worth keeping around and in steam.
My Dad was a Member of the US Army during WWII and Crossed the US from Michigan to the west Coast 4 times. He recounted to us the site of seeing a Big Boy, Maybe even 4014 Pulling Massive trains filled with War Materials. The sound was incredible, a roar like Heavy Navel gun fire. You could hear them miles away powering up and over the Rockies.
Agreed, (never heard of Dragola). AC/DC would have been expected, but equally epic. Always nice to see (or in this case, hear) something new and/or different. I don’t have anything else to say except......Rock on!
@@rainierbagatsing1073” in 1959 they took her off the line and wrote her off as progress for the time. no dry eye could be found in jungles or in towns where once big boy had rolled when in her prime”
@@ghidorahwarrior791the next line was supposed to be “Big Boy” was her name, and went on to railroad fame; as the largest engine on the UP line! The last of all her class, she survives from out the past to show the power of steam in modern times.
I remember seeing 4014 with my grandfather every time we went to the Pomona Fairplex ever since I was a little kid, until our last visit there in around 2011 or so. He would die the following year, I wish he could've seen it running again.
I love “Unspeakable Power”!! I was born and raised in Lima, Ohio; and live and work in Lima… So proud of our heritage and the legacy which is The Lima Locomotive Works. The Berkshires, and Allegheny/Blue Ridge class locomotives have a special place in my heart… But I love the UP # 4014 and UP # 844 a lot. I hope to see 4014 someday, and ride behind NKP # 765 on an excursion train in Indiana sometime. Thank you ‘History In The Dark’ for all that you do and the great video content that you put on RUclips here. I am a RailFan… but, come on, “You can take the boy from the steam locomotive; but you can’t take the steam locomotive from the boy”! Hahaha. Make Steam Locomotives Great Again!!! lol.
I think what one of the coolest things about them bringing the 4014 to the steam shop was the two engines they had in front and behind. The one in front was the current 4014 and behind it was 4884 which is the wheel arrangement.
4014s assistance with the freight train just shows that our locomotives are REALLY good at strength rather than speed like in the UK, and 4014 is a MAJOR example of that
Great video but there is one thing I missed…the SOUND of the Big Boy’s whistle. It’s an unmistakable baritone that sounds like nothing else. It reminds me of a ghost moving through the hills. Also, the Big Boy doing that little push of the freight train a few years back probably counts as its first revenue work since the 1950s. And while yes it’s an antique, it wouldn’t be any different as taking a Dusenberg out of Jay Leon’s garage and pushing it to 100 MPH…because that’s what it was designed to do. The Big Boys were made to get freight up the grade.
He’s not overrated. I only read about the Big Boy class as a young railfan. To actually see the 4014 under his own power and running excursions is amazing. My wife and I have seen 4012 at Kennefick Park in Omaha, I think in September 2017. She was amazed that an American steam locomotive was that large and in charge.
No one EVER thought we would EVER see a Big Boy run in our lifetime(s); but by the Gods they did it!!!! I remember watching her first test run on the livestream done by Trains Magazine (RIP Jim Wrinn)....I cried, wholeheartedly bawled my eyes out. It was a great day in history.
i saw 4014 in new orleans, my parents told me we were going shopping but then i realized that we were going to see one of my favorite steam locomotives even the blazing heat couldent make me not exited
I've taken the shop tour at Strasburg twice, they are one of the few shops in the world that can do certain things. Lots of old, very specialized tools, lots of knowledge in the people there. It's pretty impressive for as small a place as it is.
I still remember watching #4014 thunder by in Elkhart IA. I was expecting the UP to be taking it easy on her and drive it slow... nope. She came by doing about 40mph maybe faster. Theres nothing quite like it. She'll be coming back through IA later this year so maybe I'll catch her again.
@@haydendegrow945 I had the rare privilege this past Tuesday of watching 4014 roar by me, pulling a train at 40+mph, whistle blowing. This was in Northern Nevada, just after it left Winnemucca. It was an incredibly awesome, one-of-a-kind experience, and I do hope you get to have it one day yourself. 😀
Yoo! You going to see it in Roseville right? Heading over from Eureka with my old man to see it on saturday. I'll be wearing a fallout NCR shirt (because its white and going to be hot af lol), feel free to say hi!
I clicked so fast when I saw BIG CHUNGUS and a picture of 4014. I am loving every second of this video and I keep laughing especially at the part where the historical society gave it back. You've earned a sub and I can easily see this channel growing to over 1 million
Darkness, you *please* talk about Texas & Pacific 610 the next time you make a video about a steam locomotive? I know there are other notable steam giants worthy of their own videos, like 3985, 1218, 2156, and 643, but I feel like 610 doesn’t get enough love nowadays, and it has a very long history behind it. It was almost scrapped at some point in the 60’s, and it almost always got the short end of the stick in excursion service.
16:00 the stalled train is one I know well Eastbound MCHNP Manifest out of Chicago Illinois bound for the 8 mile long Bailey Yard in North Platte Nebraska. It had 8,800 horsepower but the second motor shut down and didn't come back up, the rails were also wet from rain the night before as well. The train consist was 4,400 horsepower and I believe 11,000 tons going up a steep but brief 0.8% grade MCHNP was underpowered as usual but he usually goes up with enough speed to make it up the hill. That day he didn't
Do the story on Big Boy 4023 and how it almost became Union Pacifics Big Boy to restore because it was in the roundhouse till the late 70s. The reason Union Pacific did not choose to restore 4023 was because they spent nearly 1 million dollars putting her on the hill where she is today
When i was about 8 years old in the mid 90s I remember being at Steamtown in Scranton and asking "will he ever run again?" I was emphatically told "no, it'll never happen" my surprise when he rode the high iron again
I have said before, and I’ll say again, I truly believe that Steve Lee would have been very proud of his old crew’s effort bringing 4014 back to live. Also, I got to see the big boy up close in 2019 at St. Paul/Minneapolis during her midwestern excursion tour.
Saw this locomotive back in 2019 with may parents and grandma. Definitely a sight to behold. Still not a fan that it stretched Union Pacific 844's frames. (I hear 844 will be back in steam next year)
As a note for anyone who is in position to railfan out of Roseville the weekend this video goes live, 4014 is supposed to pull a revenue freight *solo* out of Roseville at some point (I don't have the exact schedule), just to prove wrong all the naysayers who claim that the diesel is doing all the work. This... should be fun.
Small correction, where 4014 was sent in Southern California was pronounced incorrectly…Pomona has an “accent” on the POmona. Other than that, great narrative.
I had a little chuckle on hearing the pronunciation of Pomona as well. I've also heard (elsewhere, not here) some great pronunciations of Temecula (the best was "Temmy Coola").
I've had the honor of seeing the 4014 on display in Pomona and on multiple occasions during its excursion career. No video or photograph can truly convey its size and power. The engineering genius that led to its creation is simply incredible
The Wheel slip was caused by the tracks being slightly bowed down. So it was not the weight of the train. It was the condition of the track. And I love that video. I would have loved to have been in the cab, that day :)
Loved the ending with the "Dragula" cover. I do hope at some point you get a chance to talk about the Norfolk & Western Class A 2-6-6-4 articulated locomotives. Nearly as powerful as the Big Boy's, and capable of top speeds of over 70 mph. They were designed and built in-house by N&W's steam shops in Roanoke, VA. for heavy passenger and fast freight work through the Blue Ridge mountains. In service from 1937-60, there were 45 built, and the sole survivor of the class, Number 1218 ran excursions in the late 1980's and early 90's before being put on static display and the Virginia Museum of Transportation in Roanoke.
Wouldn't it be something to see The 4014, 3985 , 5511 and 844 4 different classes of UP engines together ,all under running condition ... That would be AWESOME
16:08 That is my favorite part of 4014's 2023 excursion! Pushing a stalled freight train, reminds me of Edward push trains over Gordon's hill. In fact I portrayed 4014 as Edward the blue engine just four years before this occurred, though I portrayed Daylight 4449 as Gordon.
The boy is *BIG* He’s the *BIG BOY* 😂 Seriously though… this locomotive is *MASSIVE* and *MAJESTIC* And as someone who loves trains, I am all here for it!
@@therailfanman2078 I know why it has theme songs and everything so that means it’s getting more famous and more famous because it runs through Las Vegas too and it’s getting more famous because it runs by itself
I work for UP as an Engineer in Southern California and the cities name is Pomona ( PO Moan ah )…I’ve got pictures of her in the yard at West Colton, CA. Were it sat for about a month..
Former SoCal resident here. Puh - moan- uh. (Pomona) Other than that, great video. I used to be able to play on 4014 when I was a kid, when my dad would take us down there for the off road expo at the fairplex.
Ive always perfered the Challengers, they look more balanced while running. I knew the 4000's were popular but Ill admit I thought they were over rated. But after seeing the Old Man running through Utah, Nevada and California. The Hype is real lol.
I had the chance to see 4014 when she was in my state (Louisiana) back in august 2021, but by the time I'd found out I'd already evacuated & came back because hurricane Ida was close to making landfall at the time as it was already in the gulf. Although it pisses me off that I had to miss out on that I will say this though. Now THAT is how you cap a video off, badass choice in music my dude
*looks around* Huh, no one flipping out about the Big Boys being referred to by the feminine pronouns. Nice change. So fun fact, Ed Dickens said in one of his talks that 4014 was his second choice. He originally wanted 4023, but he was told he couldn't have her, because it would be too difficult to get her down from her display site. He then settled on 4014, because he'd already earmarked her a few years before as a good restoration candidate. He also said that the story of UP looking at all the Big Boys was false. He knew what he wanted, and they didn't look at the others.
Most machines are referred to as she. The Big Boy is a unique example where both are acceptable it seams. Not gonna lie it feels weird to refer to it as a male. What does disney do with the Roger Brogie and Ernest S marsh? Id like to see their take. Probably still she.
@@JonsGarage89 Oh yes, I know. I do the same, but I've seen far, FAR too many comments on here about people getting huffy about it. "It's a big BOY, not a big GIRL." Completely ignoring that Ed Dickens has referred to 4014 as "she" and "her" a few times. I've read posts and comments on various places from the engine crews, and they all use the feminine pronouns, even if the engine has a male name. So the Ernest S Marsh, and the Ward Kimball, and all the others are still ladies.
I've got one of the 140 seats on the 4014 excursion Sunday from Roseville to Sparks. $$, but one item I can check off my bucket list. I am so looking forward to hearing and feeling that beast climb the Sierras!
Lobe the Big Boys! Just got a Broadway Limited version fir my model railway in Australia. Can I ask what the song was at the end of the video? It's very cool!
The 4014's oil conversion was at least thankfully successful. Which gives more justification to Durango & Silverton converting their coal powered designs.
You should do a video about UP 4014's smaller cousin, UP 3985, as she also has a very fascinating story behind her. There are also numerous other steam locomotives that I have been waiting to see you do a video on, including the following: Canadian Pacific 1293 & 6060 Northern Pacific 328 & 1070 Norfolk and Western 1218 & 2156 C.P. Huntington No. 17 York DM&IR 225, 227, & 229 Southern Pacific 4294 & 4274 New York Central 6721 That's all I can think of for now. Let me know of any of you want to see HITD do videos about any of these locomotives.
Write off steam at your peril! In the UK there is a project to convert an otherwise generally useless British Rail Class 60 to steam using Hydrogen or a compound thereof, e.g. ammonia, as fuel for the boiler - i.e. to operate as a turbo electric, retaining the original traction motors etc. In due course, to be carbon neutral, the 4014 may itself require conversion to burn hydrogen rather than oil.
Maybe that's the reason why 844 isn't running right now - they probably are in the process of installing PTC and probably looking at this tour of 4014 to see if it works.
I wish UP and CSX could get an agreement so 4014 could come to Florida. I can't get the time to travel to the west to see her. Kinda unfair for us gulf and east coasters... BTW the song should have been MASTER OF PUPPETS!!!
Steam Excursion stars: (Taunting 4014 while she is sadly on display in Pomona) The Engineer and crew will NEVER choose you again, they want lighter but far more impressive engines like US! Ed Dickens and the UP steam crew: (came to Railgiants museum to buy the Big Boy, and noticed 4014) Why are you sad, 4014? Would you like to go out? We need your help to celebrate 150th year of the first transcontinental railroad! Big Boy 4014: (happy) OH YES, PLEASE?
just never forget the previous most powerful operating excursion steam locomotive, N&W 1218 from 1987 to 1991. 3985 was the most powerful operating excursion steam locomotive before the 1218 from 1981 to 1986 but after the 1218's excursion retirement the 3985 took it back in 1992 :D Hmm does that also include the 844 as the world's most powerful operating excursion steam locomotive before 3985 and after 3985? Until 611 had a short stint with it in the latter half of the 2010's decade.
I watched the Big Boy, 4014. Leave Cheyenne Wyoming, on June 30th, heading west. And it did not have a Diesel Engine . I just finished watching a video of the 4014, taken on July 11th, in the Feather River Canyon with bridges. And Low and Behold the Diesel Engine was back. Which means that said Diesel is either needed for Braking, or perhaps even giving the 4014 a Push. I watched the 4014 and 844, deadheading west to Utah, for the 150 Anniversary of the finishing of the Trans Con Railroad back in 2019. It is the first video on my channel. And even though there where two big steam engines, it still needed a Diesel, for what ever reason. Frankly I wondered if that would happen. Yes, from Utah to Cheyenne, over the Wahsache mountains, and Sherman hill. The highest point on the UP line. And that was all.
My Empress will always be my No1 but Big Boy is just crazy. It is an American icon. UP deserves credit for choosing to resurrect one of the largest steam locomotives, not just any one they could find in decent condition. It just screams "America! F*ck yeah!"
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I don’t care if anyone thinks 4014 is overrated! He deserves all the fame he has, and I was blown away when I saw him in person. I was delighted to see 4018, 4006, and 4012, as well. Absolutely UP’s largest and finest.
@@NWCell1138 I just want to say funnily enough the big boy is a female
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I was more impressed to see 4014 already pull quite the train and at the same time, help push a stalled train up the grade at the very same time. That's intense power for an ancient locomotive
@@mcnielentertainment Generally speaking steam locos at that scale are capable of putting down more tractive effort than a similar sized diesel. The diesel has the steam trains on basically everything else. But it's still awesome watching a big old train just SHOVE a revenue train while on it's way to it's next tour stop.
I certainly don't think #4014 (or any of the other Big Boys) are overrated. I had the opportunity to see that magnificent engine (along with UP #844) in Utah about five years ago, and it was indeed an experience that couldn't be replicated with watching videos. I've also seen #4012 on display at Steamtown, though it's been a while since I last was there.
To be precise the Big Boy returned EXACTLY 60 years after it's retirement. This is - NUTS!
Uh...Not actually, he was steamed up months short, he last ran July 21, '59.
@jesseusgrantcanales To be precise, that's actually not right either. The last run revenue run by a Union Pacific steam locomotive was made on, you are correct, July 21st 1959, but was made by 4015. The 4000's were placed in dead storage in various places and by 1961 were being donated or scrapped. 4005 actually sat in storage in the Green River roundhouse until 1967 before being donated.
It doesn't meet California Air Resources Board (CARB) emission standards, but who cares?! Look at it go!
@@Sunset4Semaphores It still sucks that it doesn't meet emissions standards. Would be cool.
Big Boy 4014 is not overrated. He deserves all the attention he gets. 4014 is incredible! He's huge and he actually works. And in 2023, 4014 proved to be a hero pushing that freight train. The Big Boy is amazing and 4014 absolutely worth keeping around and in steam.
I actually have an N-scale model of him, and he pulls freight cars with no sweat.
My Dad was a Member of the US Army during WWII and Crossed the US from Michigan to the west Coast 4 times. He recounted to us the site of seeing a Big Boy, Maybe even 4014 Pulling Massive trains filled with War Materials. The sound was incredible, a roar like Heavy Navel gun fire. You could hear them miles away powering up and over the Rockies.
yes welcome thank you ❤
Dragula + Big Boy footage = epicness!
Agreed, (never heard of Dragola). AC/DC would have been expected, but equally epic. Always nice to see (or in this case, hear) something new and/or different. I don’t have anything else to say except......Rock on!
@@DixieRailProductions4018you rock on. I think the train kept rolling on
The union pacific big boy the King of the Rails
"A legend from the past is born again at last, to rumble over mountains and the plains"
“From the golden age of steam an engine seldom seen by those who never lived in bygone days Roll on big boy”
@@ghidorahwarrior791 "Roll on Big Boy rumbling across the Northern plains, Roll on Big Boy Roll on Big Boy Climbing up the wasatch mountain range"
@@rainierbagatsing1073” in 1959 they took her off the line and wrote her off as progress for the time. no dry eye could be found in jungles or in towns where once big boy had rolled when in her prime”
@@ghidorahwarrior791the next line was supposed to be “Big Boy” was her name, and went on to railroad fame; as the largest engine on the UP line! The last of all her class, she survives from out the past to show the power of steam in modern times.
@@DeadBBa1lsfrom the junkyards of the past 4014 is the last to carry on the legacy of steam
I remember seeing 4014 with my grandfather every time we went to the Pomona Fairplex ever since I was a little kid, until our last visit there in around 2011 or so. He would die the following year, I wish he could've seen it running again.
I love “Unspeakable Power”!! I was born and raised in Lima, Ohio; and live and work in Lima… So proud of our heritage and the legacy which is The Lima Locomotive Works.
The Berkshires, and Allegheny/Blue Ridge class locomotives have a special place in my heart… But I love the UP # 4014 and UP # 844 a lot. I hope to see 4014 someday, and ride behind NKP # 765 on an excursion train in Indiana sometime.
Thank you ‘History In The Dark’ for all that you do and the great video content that you put on RUclips here.
I am a RailFan… but, come on, “You can take the boy from the steam locomotive; but you can’t take the steam locomotive from the boy”! Hahaha.
Make Steam Locomotives Great Again!!! lol.
I think what one of the coolest things about them bringing the 4014 to the steam shop was the two engines they had in front and behind. The one in front was the current 4014 and behind it was 4884 which is the wheel arrangement.
4014s assistance with the freight train just shows that our locomotives are REALLY good at strength rather than speed like in the UK, and 4014 is a MAJOR example of that
yes thank you
Great video but there is one thing I missed…the SOUND of the Big Boy’s whistle. It’s an unmistakable baritone that sounds like nothing else. It reminds me of a ghost moving through the hills.
Also, the Big Boy doing that little push of the freight train a few years back probably counts as its first revenue work since the 1950s. And while yes it’s an antique, it wouldn’t be any different as taking a Dusenberg out of Jay Leon’s garage and pushing it to 100 MPH…because that’s what it was designed to do. The Big Boys were made to get freight up the grade.
I wish that the GG1s were still in service. :(
... those were magnificent machines... also infamously indestructable.
He’s not overrated. I only read about the Big Boy class as a young railfan. To actually see the 4014 under his own power and running excursions is amazing.
My wife and I have seen 4012 at Kennefick Park in Omaha, I think in September 2017. She was amazed that an American steam locomotive was that large and in charge.
Hate to be that guy but it's 4023 in omaha
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I couldn’t recall the correct number. I appreciate the info!
No one EVER thought we would EVER see a Big Boy run in our lifetime(s); but by the Gods they did it!!!!
I remember watching her first test run on the livestream done by Trains Magazine (RIP Jim Wrinn)....I cried, wholeheartedly bawled my eyes out. It was a great day in history.
i saw 4014 in new orleans, my parents told me we were going shopping but then i realized that we were going to see one of my favorite steam locomotives even the blazing heat couldent make me not exited
I've taken the shop tour at Strasburg twice, they are one of the few shops in the world that can do certain things. Lots of old, very specialized tools, lots of knowledge in the people there. It's pretty impressive for as small a place as it is.
I'm usually the first to cry foul at a ludicrous price tag, but the first words out of my mouth at the cab ride cost were "would if I could"
I still remember watching #4014 thunder by in Elkhart IA. I was expecting the UP to be taking it easy on her and drive it slow... nope. She came by doing about 40mph maybe faster. Theres nothing quite like it. She'll be coming back through IA later this year so maybe I'll catch her again.
I would give anything to watch this massive machine rumble by me. I'm awed by a CPR Hudson... Can't imagine what a BIG BOY would do to me.
@@haydendegrow945 I had the rare privilege this past Tuesday of watching 4014 roar by me, pulling a train at 40+mph, whistle blowing. This was in Northern Nevada, just after it left Winnemucca. It was an incredibly awesome, one-of-a-kind experience, and I do hope you get to have it one day yourself. 😀
yes welcome thank you
I'm going to see it this weekend. I love this Locomotive, it was a part of my childhood when I watched I love toy trains.
Yoo! You going to see it in Roseville right? Heading over from Eureka with my old man to see it on saturday. I'll be wearing a fallout NCR shirt (because its white and going to be hot af lol), feel free to say hi!
@pinga858 Yeah, I'm leaving Friday morning to get there. I'm heading there with my Dad, too. Hope I see you there.
I’ll be there as well
@@srajfnly2 Hope I see you there too.
That was incredible guys! Just got back home, realized really quick there was no way we were finding each other, that crowd was epic!
"BECAUSE SHE DOES NOT NEED ANYONE'S HELP! YOU NEED HER HELP! Great video!
Id also like to add the Big Boys were instrumental in hauling endless tons of military equipment during the WWII war effort
I clicked so fast when I saw BIG CHUNGUS and a picture of 4014. I am loving every second of this video and I keep laughing especially at the part where the historical society gave it back. You've earned a sub and I can easily see this channel growing to over 1 million
Darkness, you *please* talk about Texas & Pacific 610 the next time you make a video about a steam locomotive?
I know there are other notable steam giants worthy of their own videos, like 3985, 1218, 2156, and 643, but I feel like 610 doesn’t get enough love nowadays, and it has a very long history behind it. It was almost scrapped at some point in the 60’s, and it almost always got the short end of the stick in excursion service.
16:00 the stalled train is one I know well
Eastbound MCHNP
Manifest out of Chicago Illinois bound for the 8 mile long Bailey Yard in North Platte Nebraska.
It had 8,800 horsepower but the second motor shut down and didn't come back up, the rails were also wet from rain the night before as well.
The train consist was 4,400 horsepower and I believe 11,000 tons going up a steep but brief 0.8% grade
MCHNP was underpowered as usual but he usually goes up with enough speed to make it up the hill. That day he didn't
Do the story on Big Boy 4023 and how it almost became Union Pacifics Big Boy to restore because it was in the roundhouse till the late 70s. The reason Union Pacific did not choose to restore 4023 was because they spent nearly 1 million dollars putting her on the hill where she is today
When i was about 8 years old in the mid 90s I remember being at Steamtown in Scranton and asking "will he ever run again?" I was emphatically told "no, it'll never happen" my surprise when he rode the high iron again
I'd be pretty darn proud if I was that engineer, he was honored to be with BB!❤😊
I just want to say as both a train nerd and someone who grew up on 90s Nickelodeon, great use of that Good Burger reference lol
I have said before, and I’ll say again, I truly believe that Steve Lee would have been very proud of his old crew’s effort bringing 4014 back to live. Also, I got to see the big boy up close in 2019 at St. Paul/Minneapolis during her midwestern excursion tour.
Saw this locomotive back in 2019 with may parents and grandma. Definitely a sight to behold. Still not a fan that it stretched Union Pacific 844's frames. (I hear 844 will be back in steam next year)
844 back in steam? Do tell. What did you hear, cause I can't find jack about her anymore.
As a note for anyone who is in position to railfan out of Roseville the weekend this video goes live, 4014 is supposed to pull a revenue freight *solo* out of Roseville at some point (I don't have the exact schedule), just to prove wrong all the naysayers who claim that the diesel is doing all the work. This... should be fun.
Heading down to Roseville to see it! It’s gonna be (one of, if not) the best day of my life (so far)!!!
Same, Good thing Darkness made this vid in time
If only it went through my town in California.
Oh hey, nice to see you here.
@@atsf47legit Same here, you too!
@@Voucher765 nice to see you here
Small correction, where 4014 was sent in Southern California was pronounced incorrectly…Pomona has an “accent” on the POmona. Other than that, great narrative.
OMG thank you! I was wondering why no one was saying that!
I had a little chuckle on hearing the pronunciation of Pomona as well. I've also heard (elsewhere, not here) some great pronunciations of Temecula (the best was "Temmy Coola").
@@FreihEitner 😂😂👍
Very well done video Darkness, loved it!
i was there at the Ogden ceremony and the Promontory one! i nearly cried, it was so amazing to see this queen of the rails back in steam
KING, 😅
KING 🤴
@@오정원-q6f it was just habit. I, like most people, refer to locomotives as she
Pushing that freight train was very, very impressive!
I've had the honor of seeing the 4014 on display in Pomona and on multiple occasions during its excursion career. No video or photograph can truly convey its size and power. The engineering genius that led to its creation is simply incredible
The Wheel slip was caused by the tracks being slightly bowed down. So it was not the weight of the train. It was the condition of the track. And I love that video. I would have loved to have been in the cab, that day :)
19:25 I don’t know the song someone tell me
Dragula by The Jump Off
yes thank you 💚
I'm not even American but 4014 pushing that freight train made me want to start chanting U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Loved the ending with the "Dragula" cover. I do hope at some point you get a chance to talk about the Norfolk & Western Class A 2-6-6-4 articulated locomotives. Nearly as powerful as the Big Boy's, and capable of top speeds of over 70 mph. They were designed and built in-house by N&W's steam shops in Roanoke, VA. for heavy passenger and fast freight work through the Blue Ridge mountains. In service from 1937-60, there were 45 built, and the sole survivor of the class, Number 1218 ran excursions in the late 1980's and early 90's before being put on static display and the Virginia Museum of Transportation in Roanoke.
Wouldn't it be something to see The 4014, 3985 , 5511 and 844 4 different classes of UP engines together ,all under running condition ... That would be AWESOME
16:08 That is my favorite part of 4014's 2023 excursion! Pushing a stalled freight train, reminds me of Edward push trains over Gordon's hill. In fact I portrayed 4014 as Edward the blue engine just four years before this occurred, though I portrayed Daylight 4449 as Gordon.
The boy is *BIG*
He’s the *BIG BOY* 😂
Seriously though… this locomotive is *MASSIVE* and *MAJESTIC*
And as someone who loves trains, I am all here for it!
People who call 4014 overrated dont actually understand WHY Big Boy is so famous
@@therailfanman2078 I know why it has theme songs and everything so that means it’s getting more famous and more famous because it runs through Las Vegas too and it’s getting more famous because it runs by itself
Gotta hand it to ya Darkness that music montage was 🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌 muah on point!!!!
5:35 that is the steam engine I used to play on as a kid
10grand to ride in the cab of 4014??? that's cheap at twice the price!! What a ride...
yes thank you 💚
Good to see old steel fired up again.
When the diesels can't pull the weight, Call in the BIG BOY problem solved.
The time 4014 helped a diesel sounded straight put of a Thomas episode
Henry actually did something like that in the original book series. The story is called "Super Rescue" from the book "Enterprising Engines"
I work for UP as an Engineer in Southern California and the cities name is Pomona ( PO Moan ah )…I’ve got pictures of her in the yard at West Colton, CA. Were it sat for about a month..
I got a model of Big Boy!!!! He runs great!!!!!
I love them ... Im more of a Dreyfus Hudson man but I saw it when it was in Louisiana and it's a beautiful piece of American locomotive history
I got to see her 2 days ago in Greeley, thing is my great grand father was the engineer for this one! I am going to Cheyenne to clime all over it!
I would love to see them rebuild another big boy and keep her on coal. Oil is a whole lot easier, but coal is just cooler.
Well done. Thanks for sharing.
You need HER HELP! Crazy that it pushed a modern length train on top of its own load. Great Video
Former SoCal resident here.
Puh - moan- uh. (Pomona)
Other than that, great video. I used to be able to play on 4014 when I was a kid, when my dad would take us down there for the off road expo at the fairplex.
9:24 there used to be door behind that white sign that says danger
Actually, fun fact, UP 4018 was considered to be restored to star in a movie that was essentially Old 587 Great Train Robbery, but with a Big Boy
But the question is.. Will they do it?
@@Merica_official50 No, at the time they ran out of funding after they painted up the engine
@@joeythecat7482 darn
I got to see it today. It shook the sidewalk I was standing on.
My favorite Union Pacific locomotive! Maybe my favorite locomotive ever! Saw her in 2019 and 2021 and can’t wait to see her again this year!
Now if CSX can bring one of the preserved Kanawahs up to steam, despite Dark's inability to pronounce the class name correctly.
Darkness, Another great video. For another video idea, what about a history about the old kid's show, Shining Time Station?
Ive always perfered the Challengers, they look more balanced while running. I knew the 4000's were popular but Ill admit I thought they were over rated. But after seeing the Old Man running through Utah, Nevada and California. The Hype is real lol.
I had the chance to see 4014 when she was in my state (Louisiana) back in august 2021, but by the time I'd found out I'd already evacuated & came back because hurricane Ida was close to making landfall at the time as it was already in the gulf. Although it pisses me off that I had to miss out on that I will say this though. Now THAT is how you cap a video off, badass choice in music my dude
Darkness loving Big Chungus with Unspeakable Power. I also like the music to the last bit of the video. What's the name of the singer and song please.
Dragula, by The Jump Off. Very nice cover, if I must say, and oddly fitting for 4014.
*looks around* Huh, no one flipping out about the Big Boys being referred to by the feminine pronouns. Nice change.
So fun fact, Ed Dickens said in one of his talks that 4014 was his second choice. He originally wanted 4023, but he was told he couldn't have her, because it would be too difficult to get her down from her display site. He then settled on 4014, because he'd already earmarked her a few years before as a good restoration candidate. He also said that the story of UP looking at all the Big Boys was false. He knew what he wanted, and they didn't look at the others.
Most machines are referred to as she. The Big Boy is a unique example where both are acceptable it seams. Not gonna lie it feels weird to refer to it as a male. What does disney do with the Roger Brogie and Ernest S marsh? Id like to see their take. Probably still she.
@@JonsGarage89 Oh yes, I know. I do the same, but I've seen far, FAR too many comments on here about people getting huffy about it. "It's a big BOY, not a big GIRL." Completely ignoring that Ed Dickens has referred to 4014 as "she" and "her" a few times.
I've read posts and comments on various places from the engine crews, and they all use the feminine pronouns, even if the engine has a male name. So the Ernest S Marsh, and the Ward Kimball, and all the others are still ladies.
@@shimesu443 Well theres our answer. People get huffy about the dumbest things nowadays. Oh well.
Yeah well, I still prefer calling Big Boy a he since I'm with the majority on that anyways.
It is right in the name after all: Big BOY
@@JonsGarage89 Yup, saw that one coming.
Roll on big boy 4014!
yes thank you 💚
I've got one of the 140 seats on the 4014 excursion Sunday from Roseville to Sparks. $$, but one item I can check off my bucket list. I am so looking forward to hearing and feeling that beast climb the Sierras!
Preservation railways: we dont have that much cash for these trains
UP: FUCK IT WE BALL
Lobe the Big Boys! Just got a Broadway Limited version fir my model railway in Australia. Can I ask what the song was at the end of the video? It's very cool!
The 4014's oil conversion was at least thankfully successful. Which gives more justification to Durango & Silverton converting their coal powered designs.
What if when 3985 restoration/ overhaul is done, that 844 , 3985 and 4014 do a triple Header and a side by side photoshoot
OH YEAH!
You should do a video about UP 4014's smaller cousin, UP 3985, as she also has a very fascinating story behind her. There are also numerous other steam locomotives that I have been waiting to see you do a video on, including the following:
Canadian Pacific 1293 & 6060
Northern Pacific 328 & 1070
Norfolk and Western 1218 & 2156
C.P. Huntington
No. 17 York
DM&IR 225, 227, & 229
Southern Pacific 4294 & 4274
New York Central 6721
That's all I can think of for now. Let me know of any of you want to see HITD do videos about any of these locomotives.
You had me at Big Boy!
I was at the Strasburg Railroad while they had the driving wheels of 4014
What song did you use at the end?
Dragula fits this locomotive perfectly!
Write off steam at your peril! In the UK there is a project to convert an otherwise generally useless British Rail Class 60 to steam using Hydrogen or a compound thereof, e.g. ammonia, as fuel for the boiler - i.e. to operate as a turbo electric, retaining the original traction motors etc.
In due course, to be carbon neutral, the 4014 may itself require conversion to burn hydrogen rather than oil.
Just something to think about, imagine seeing a big boy running at 80+miles per hour!😂🚀
When are they gonna run 844 again they should put a PTC system in 844
Maybe that's the reason why 844 isn't running right now - they probably are in the process of installing PTC and probably looking at this tour of 4014 to see if it works.
I wish UP and CSX could get an agreement so 4014 could come to Florida. I can't get the time to travel to the west to see her. Kinda unfair for us gulf and east coasters... BTW the song should have been MASTER OF PUPPETS!!!
Awesome video….As usual.
Steam Excursion stars: (Taunting 4014 while she is sadly on display in Pomona) The Engineer and crew will NEVER choose you again, they want lighter but far more impressive engines like US!
Ed Dickens and the UP steam crew: (came to Railgiants museum to buy the Big Boy, and noticed 4014) Why are you sad, 4014? Would you like to go out? We need your help to celebrate 150th year of the first transcontinental railroad!
Big Boy 4014: (happy) OH YES, PLEASE?
2023:
Diesels: Hey! I got stuck on this hill
Rail Director: Say, we got this giant steam engine right here
4014: Put me in coach
@@seanwhitman8353
Diesels: No use at all! A Steam engine!? She will never get us over the hill!
4014: Just wait and see!
I saw the stalled Train!!!
Maybe one day 4014 might doublehead with 3985 once it has been restored back by RRHMA but so far there is no such intention but it be nice
just never forget the previous most powerful operating excursion steam locomotive, N&W 1218 from 1987 to 1991. 3985 was the most powerful operating excursion steam locomotive before the 1218 from 1981 to 1986 but after the 1218's excursion retirement the 3985 took it back in 1992 :D
Hmm does that also include the 844 as the world's most powerful operating excursion steam locomotive before 3985 and after 3985? Until 611 had a short stint with it in the latter half of the 2010's decade.
BIG BOY MENTIONED RAHHHHHHHHH🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
"WHAT THE FŰ&K IS A KILOMETER"
A Decently Large Fellow even
Id love to see a chessie H-8 go head to head with a Decently Large Fellow.
yes thank you 💚
Darkness you are the ONE!!!!👍😎😲
Can you do the Baltimore and Ohio EM-1
I seen 4006, 4012, 4014, and just today 4023.
🎶Well he's a big big boy the biggest boy, he's a big big boy the biggest boy, he's a big big boy the biggest boy, he's a big big boy the biggest boy!🎶
I watched the Big Boy, 4014. Leave Cheyenne Wyoming, on June 30th, heading west. And it did not have a Diesel Engine . I just finished watching a video of the 4014, taken on July 11th, in the Feather River Canyon with bridges. And Low and Behold the Diesel Engine was back. Which means that said Diesel is either needed for Braking, or perhaps even giving the 4014 a Push. I watched the 4014 and 844, deadheading west to Utah, for the 150 Anniversary of the finishing of the Trans Con Railroad back in 2019. It is the first video on my channel. And even though there where two big steam engines, it still needed a Diesel, for what ever reason. Frankly I wondered if that would happen. Yes, from Utah to Cheyenne, over the Wahsache mountains, and Sherman hill. The highest point on the UP line. And that was all.
To everyone going to Roseville Saturday, I'll be in a fallout NCR shirt and feel free to say hi! Going to be amazing and hope to meet ya'll there!
I will be seeing her at Ogden union station next Saturday.
My Empress will always be my No1 but Big Boy is just crazy. It is an American icon. UP deserves credit for choosing to resurrect one of the largest steam locomotives, not just any one they could find in decent condition. It just screams "America! F*ck yeah!"
we need a video on 844 now