I always thought their excuse for no ship interiors was a lie. I mean,. if it were true, why in Gods name do we have to walk the entire length of a Cutter to get to the door of the hangar in stations? That's WAY more tedious than walking inside a ship.
@@jasonking5405if you jump on top of corvette, you can see how small the pilot seats are compared to player models, which tells us how fucked scaling is between whole game and odyssey, thats prob the reason they abandoned ship interiors
@@Сталкер-ь2х This could be resolved by having the interiors fit into an instance outside of your system or whatever. This could mean your ship is unusable when walking around but I would take it just for The Expanse vibes
Im not gonna lie, what brings me back is just the audio engineering the devs did for ED. Ill burn some time listening to a new album while listening to the sweet reverbs and synthesizing of events in space every so often. It needs alot, and it ignored its most ardent player base at times, but the audio is still king for the genre imo.
I understand the shortcomings, but I'm loving how good Elite is basically, or fundamentally. The nuts and bolts are there. An entire Milky Way Galaxy, fun ships, an economy, great graphics and sound, etc... I'm enjoying it. Its very immersive. I feel like a starship pilot, blazing a trail across the galaxy while making money/credits!
I agree, though I did find it hard to have a purpose or reason to play. That changed when I joined an active squadron. People to wing up with or chat about the game and furthering the cause with the BGS gave me a purpose and now I’m really enjoying the game again.
@@Andromeda_456 Absolutely. It REALLY helps to create a purpose or goal. Then you can dive in to go for it. I'm going for a Vette now, for the first time. Can't wait to get it!
You speak alot of truth, i look back at my time with the game and really enjoyed it and I will come back. But I stopped having such high hopes for it and this is way better for expectation management
Yes. If you look at it as a "finished" product that not geting more content, and you just enjoy the stuff you like time to time, it is quite good. Just don't hope anything, because it is a guaranteed disappointment.
I saw the other day that VR was only done in Elite because one of the original devs was a VR enthusiast, and he did it all in his own spare time. VR stopped being developed in Elite simply because that one single dev left the company, and no-one else knew what (or how) to do anything with it... and of course, FDev didn't bother getting a proper VR dev in to get all up and running in Odyssey. If they had, well, ED could have been soooo much better for it.
Completely agree. VR is the only way I’ve played ED and I am still feeling disenfranchised. FDev, I just don’t understand why you continue to ignore what your players want. Bring back VR.
@@Skylark42 Yes you can play Horizons in VR as before and you can play Odyssey in VR until you are walking then you get the 2D projection. I should have said, “please support VR for space legs”.
nah, that's complete BS. ""VR" is just HMD and head mounted displays suck for gameplay. Every game that was infected with that parasitic cancer went downhill. You can have game that's for "VR" HMDs or game that's fun
First login today in 4 years after spending 618hrs ingame. Had got Horizons, bought a fleet carrier, did the Low Temp Diamond/ overlapping hotspot mining subgame for a month or so then parked everything as the whole thing got so monotonous. Now back and has anything really changed ? Certainly doesn't seem it apart from the LTDs being decimated. I've read that surface Platinum mining is now the go-to and trying it today, I'm certainly no where near 150m creds/hour as advertised. And if Yamiks is right about player numbers, this only confirms my fears. What are the chances of Elite: Dangerous solo play being modified to be able to play offline ? At least that way, if Frontier and their servers do go belly up, the game can continue.
Even the Powerplay Overhaul isn't new. Sandro Sammarco was gathering ideas for it back in circa 2017-2018 before he left the Elite Dev team. So, who knows? the Powerplay stuff they've sat on for years now. Engineers needs doing way more than Powerplay. And they NEED to re-look at the offline Client and get that rolling again (as it was an original Kickstarter promise) and then open it up to mods, and let the community work on it instead. Been saying this now for YEARS.
I loved this game so fucking much while I was grinding with buddies and pushing power play. I know it's not exciting at all but it was something we could fuck around with. I've got an anaconda and a Vette both mid way engineered as well as tons of smaller ships. I might have to pick it back up if it kicks back off.
According to Steam, I last played ED on March 29, 2021. Lat time I played I was on my way to the second bubble area with some tourists. I am some place in the middle of nowhere. I intended to log back in and finish that mission. But, it has been nearly 3 years and I do not think that will happen.
I was on my way to the second bubble when they announced fleet carriers and resolved that I'll go to the second bubble and get back to the main bubble for the release, which I managed. But then the fleet carriers were such a letdown I just stopped playing.
I parked my python and realized I was about to deliver mail to become a rear admiral just so I could use a ship to blast away hundreds of ships and make less than I could make from mining for 10 minutes
My reason that it's still worth it is much different than everyone elses reason. It's my only relief from my job. Flying around and exploring helps get my shitty ass job off my mind. By the end of the day I am ready to burn down the building. But somehow, playing elite gets my mind off it.
This is so true. Against all the odds, contrary to all the wasted potential - Elite Dangerous has its special place in my heart. Its tough love, though.
Probably due to familiarity, but nobody ever mentions how awkward and burdensome the new player experience is in ED. More than once I've heard gamer youtubers say "I tried it but applied for a steam refund". That's people who are experienced with games and bought a game saying "the new player experience does not give me enough reason to keep playing it within my reasonable time frame". Two of my biggest issues there are the massive brick wall of the control setup to even start flying, and the lack of information for where to find systems / stations / factions for doing anything at all throughout the game. If your players need third-party tools to be able to *find the gameplay in your game*, that's a really big sign as to where to focus your improvement efforts.
People used to mention it, but since they improved the in game tutorials, people just started to talk about it less frequently. I started playing when it was released on ps4, and at the time, the tutorial was basically a handful of 5min missions with the bare minimum, plus a few links to youtube videos, all started from the main menu. No in depth explanations, no noob restricted star systems, no anything else.Took me hours of gameplay and trial and error to understand stuff that is pretty much basics and core elements, like ship modules for example.
I haven’t played for about two years. The engineering, nerfing trading, lack of new content and the focus of the aliens drove me away. It’s sad, It could have been great.
One thing, one little idea, that could add some interesting new fun to the game is the ability to COLONIZE star systems and planets!!!! It would give a meaningful reason to EXPLORE, MINE for resources, and have COMBAT ships to defend it. Find a star system with an ELW, explore it for resources. Explore neighboring systems for resources. Build a station in orbit on the ELW. Use it as a base of operations. Build a "city" on the ELW. If Thargoids or pirates show up, combat players can defend it. Your gameplay would actually matter in the universe, instead of a stupid virtual commodity market that has no tangible consequences. Shit, they could even toss in a new alien civilization that could either be an ally to humanity or another antagonist! Hey, maybe create some nomadic android civilization that was left behind by their creators due to some great cataclysm the wiped them out? Players could literally build a new bubble in another part of the galaxy few have ever ventured to.
Isn't some of this already possible with Player Owned Factions? Factions own entire star systems and factions can take over stations in orbit and on the ground by completing missions for the faction, engaging in combat against rival factions, etc...
@@silo_olisWhat I'm talking about is migrating to an unsettled star system and mining resources to build new civilizations, not take control of existing stations. Here's the idea, an FC brings a fleet of exploration and mining ships to a remote region to find mining resources and ELW's to settle. You mine for resources that are used to build stations and cities that don't yet exist there. Space truckers bring in goods like food and medicine until the star system becomes self-sufficient. Passenger ships haul in NPC workers. Pilots explore, mine, defend, and build new civilizations that didn't exist before.
Interesting idea. Guardian generation ships that avoided Skynet's destruction of the species. According to lore the Guardians were a lot like humanity in how they evolved and how their society was structured. Them being enemies to the Thargoids gives them the perfect reason to become allies with humanity when rediscovered. You could hire Guardian crew, buy Guardian ships, buy Guardian suits (if they're THAT close to humanity) and weapons, trade resources between humans and Guardians... fuck I just created X4: Foundations without the automatic player economy. Perhaps they would be very far away from the bubble, not too far but maybe 2,500 ly or so, just to encourage combat mains to explore a little bit and to engineer long range ships, just like new weapons and new ships alongside a bit of a profitability increase would encourage people who hate combat to maybe give it a shot.
After over 3000 hours and taking a multi year break due to BGS burn-out, I reinstalled recently, though I did not pickup odyssey. I changed out my old fleet, EXCEPT MY PYTHON (best ship in the game fight me) for some new ships and now I'm parked in Shinrarta awaiting the new ships while I scan systems in the bubble for Raxxla. So nice to jump in for 30 minutes and fly around for a while. Nothing else comes close to the feeling.
Grind, grind, grind all day, grind your brain away... :D Thanks Yamiks, for looking upt the lack of progress on E:D every once in a while so I don't have to and can keep nursing my nostalgia. Very much appreciated!
Thats why i love X4, you need to grind only until you aquire enough money to buy a few ships, then the grind is automated and you can do whatever you want.
@@efxnews4776That's why Devs invented secondary and tertiary ingame currencies, like Engineering Materials, that can't be crosstraded of course. You can't escape the grind in E:D! :D
@@DerKaetzer That's the true problem of the game indeed, if Engineering wasn't required (because now it kinda is to do some activities) it would be okay, but the fact that we almost need to engineer is what is killing the game. Spending so many hours just grinding for a single ship... IF it has to be necessary, then make so it doesn't cost so many ressources.
@@DerKaetzer make no mistake, X4 has some other types of currency wich are upgrade materials, but they aren't essential to the progress, is more like for your personal ships, the ones you would be using mostly. There's also "HQ Research" wich would be ways to aquire perks for the player, that cost resources, but is fully automated, it just take time, altough you could if you want direct deliver the resources speeding up the process.
I tried X4 but i didn't get on with it found myself stuck for an hour trying to work out what to do but gave up reminded me of when i first played Elite no instructions no clear plan on what to do next @@efxnews4776
I've restarted my flying sessions lately, after about 2years away, working on engineers (just unlocked Marco Quent and now need to farm mats before starting Professor Palin... sight). I really wish the rework of Powerplay might give a better "meaning" for gameplay. But i fear that base building will require Odyssey, because i only use Horizon (i don't even own Odyssey) and usually fly with TrackIR and sometimes even use VR. ... Reducing engineer mat grind would be such a quick win...
ALL the "current gameplay" they have done has been locked behind the half-assed NMS clone pay-gate that is odyssey. I decided to skip the middle man and just play NMS. i miss the space-combat of Ed (even with it's nerfed flight-mechanics of no-rudder the turret, gimbal and variety of hardpoints and sub-systems generally made for an engaging knife-fight even if it was 99% decided by the spin-to-win angular velocity) but EVERY other aspect outside of the space-rock mining is far superior and more immersive in NMS. hel i say this as someone who only really likes NMS because of the side-track distractions and the RNG timing "expedition" live-events. tho i do need to try the atlas path main/original quest again now the recent update "changed" it. NMS is paper thin, miles wide, just like Ed but they were far better at adding things that made the game more interesting rather than simply more of a grind to feel as powerful as you started out.
Easy fixes that can be accomplished by the devs in an afternoon and will make this game a lot better: - either reduce grinding for materials and guardian modules by at least 75-90% or make engineering way less important to actually play late game content, otherwise there will never be new players - power play only in open - power play modules unlocked forever once you first earn them - double the jump range of everything - native index tool with eddb/inara functionalities - remove carrier upkeep, even if initial purchase price goes up - cut the "sponginess" of FPS targets by at least half - remove asp scout Harder things to implement but that we really need on the game - at least 2 new ships per year - ship interiors - base building - remove solo play. Only open play, but with a pvp flag for who wants to engage in pvp. No flag, no interdiction. - make it so player groups cannot influence NPC factions out of existence, thereby making ot impossible for newer players to earn certain system permits
How insane would it be if the new feature would actually be Ship Interiors. It would 100% be better than Base Building ... Which is why it will probably be Base Building XD
Because the walk from ship door to elevator door is long enough thank you. And if ones ship is getting blasted it dosent help adding time from door to cockpit
@@lindinle Yeah. Thx for this copy-paste reply. Let me debunk it very quickly: A. How about ... we just keep the blue-circle? Mind blown I know. B. How about ... you just insta-teleport back when you take dmg? Mind blown again ... I know.
* looks at my 1,014 hours counter on E:D * YAMIIIIIIIIIIIIKS! I jest - found your channel only recently and i enjoy watching your videos on this subject, as well as others
It was a fucking good game but missing some of the things that liked the most like being able to walk in your ship (may seems accessory but when i started playing Star citizen it blew my mind)
all i wanted was a fun and engaging space-game i could fight my way through and have an excuse to move around within looking for interesting things. Now all i can see is that simply staying in one place in the bubble next to an RES area resetting the instance is the ENTIRE combat gameplay other than the thargoid fights that mandate ONE specific playstyle, 3-4 specific builds/fits and don't seem to provide any meaningful reward beyond simply existing. Oh and to get those fits/builds you needed to engage with the RNG "resource farming" system and RNG output engineering, and the toiling of getting thousands of the right kind of trade-good (handed out by the ten) to faction grind your way into access to the engineers. At which point i walked away hoping for something to change (it didn't), and eventually installed a myriad of other games instead (including NMS and warframe that despite being focussed on walking-sim/third-person-horde-shooting respectively have way BETTER flight and combat encounters, tho not quite flight mechanics than ED ever has). That NMS can throw in a generic "capital ship fight" and it outperforms ED with it's way more detailed systems is damning, I just wisht he WF community hadn't over-farmed then rejected the railjack system so hard (as a solo/duo player with 2+Ai crew gun/engi it's a fun experience, HORRIBLE with 3-4 players/randoms tho) as the potential for alternate ships/builds/encounters was huge.
Other builds are also reliable, just there is one meta that everybody follows. Rewardwise, it gives you credit and plenty engineer material. So there is reward. But not at the Titan. That is useless really. Otherwise I kinda agree.
and unfortunately, unlike with X4, the RNG based engineering can't be modded out because it's online only. I doubt it will happen but hopefully with their dying breath, Frontier makes ED an offline game, even if it doubles the filesize (meaning it would rival RDR2 in just how much space it takes up on your PC). This would enable a whole new world of shenanigans with mods and cheats and third party programs to make it as much of a sandbox as it is a simulator. Also, exchange arx for ingame credits since I feel like very few players actually use the ship cosmetics due to either having to buy them or having to grind for months to build up enough arx to get even one cosmetic pack. Hell it took me three weeks just to get a fucking paint job for my anaconda.
new player here, dove into ED a couple of months ago, and 180 hours of gameplay later, I'm really loving it. the exploration, ship building, economy, and spaceship flying/combat are unmatched within current space games imo (aint counting Star Citizen, it aint finished). it achieves nearly everything I wanted from it. I came off of playing no mans sky, and therefore I wasn't needing or expecting the level of on planet exploration or base building that game had. No Mans Sky lives within a much more vast universe that goes for a fantasy setting. ED works perfectly as a more realistic space sim game, I don't need massive generated earth like worlds or city building to enjoy this game. I'm hopeful for the future of the game even despite its age. I'm super excited for the power play update. power play was one of the elements that originally stood out to me from ED from afar, but I was disappointed by how little its implemented in the actual game. hopefully it becomes more of a factor and drives PvP and gives an actual reason to pledge/work for a faction. Also if the base building thing is true, that's hype for me. I'm an explorer, and the idea of going into the black and being able to build an actual home base/outpost is really fuckin cool.
Base building?, like for real? I still can't walk inside my ship, heck I can't not even watch the back of the cabin if I don't use the free camera.... and they are working on base buildings?, what for? Are we even going to be able to go inside? (I really don't care), Why would I want a planetary base of my own?, I usually avoid them because of the time it takes to land on them? Most people playing Elite are grown ups, we don't have time to waste, we want space combat, different trading experiences, mining, etc. I play ETS2, I try to spend the smallest time I can inside my garage and the more time I can driving my truck, Who cares about base building? I hope they really get us new ships to the game, its been a while, and hope they are not just copy paste of the old ones with one more or less hardpoint. After all this years, dissapointing players on this last point would really be the dead of Elite Dangerous. Cheers!
The saddest thing about Elite Dangerous is that we will never get full atmospheric worlds with dinosaurs and such that I seem to remember them talking about waaaayyyyy back when. I guess the best I'll get is the cartoon version (no man's sky). Still enjoyed hundreds of hours of what we got. Nothing beats demolishing things in a Python/Corvette, and then getting lost in the stars after grinding thousands of passenger missions/space trucking/mining.
Yeah. I remember Braben saying about how fleshed out the earth-like worlds were gonna be, you could be a big game hunter and even earn a reputation as such! .. And now we're 10 years into the games lifecycle and you can still only land on planets slightly more lifelike than our moon. Everything in Elite: Dangerous honestly felt so groundbreaking at the time that felt reasonable if they kept up the pace. This game will always hold a special place in my heart because of what it achieved but it will always be bittersweet because of the things that were NOT achieved. It will always be a huge step forward in the 'Space-sim' (Sim-Lite?) genre though, and I'm hopeful new cool stuff will continue getting developed until we inch ever closer to that sweet, sweet, full fidelity immersive space sim universe with ACTUALLY no limits. That'll be a day to be a space fan!
As much as i enjoy the core gameplay of Elite Dangerous, I just haven't been able to enjoy it since engineering was introduced, It's not even the grind so much as the gradual drift away from space SIM to space RPG witch so many other games do better.
Haven't played ED since Horizons. It was a fun albeit super grindy experience. Not sure how many hours I spent, but I had a fully engineered Corvette and Anaconda with a full assortment of engineered components to use it for combat, mining, trading, exploration... anything really. I started playing while waiting for SC development, but when SC starting making meaningful progress I dropped ED. I have fond memories.
The grind is a choice. You don't actually need to grind all the engineers either, just pick the ones you want/need. Still a very accurate description of the current situation Yam.
That's still a grind, though. You still have to go fuck-all out of your way to get the resources you need in order to upgrade your ship with the Engineers, and then you have to do it over and over again for each part you want to Engineer. Instead of... you know... just being able to buy all of the shit you need off of the market, like you should be able to in what is this future sci-fi universe that's literally full of every resource imaginable. I don't have to go out into the desert and blast rocks in real life if I want to improve my Sedan. Why do I have to do that to improve a space ship in the future? The grind isn't a choice when the only way to progress your ship's advancement is a grind by its very nature and design. Which it is. The _worst_ thing is, it wasn't always like this! Letter-grading ship parts was a much cleaner and more understandable way of ship upgrades, but then they had to go ahead and fuck it all up by adding this absolutely batshit granularity that was The Engineers. instead of keeping it simple and branching out from there, they added this impossible-to-balance complexity and turned it into an absolute chore. Typical Frontier.
saying that "grind is a choice" is downright stupid. If you consider "not progressing" in a game as valid, acceptable option/choice then I fear to think what you consider even mildly bad?! you do realize that you are willingly ignoring the game structure..that the game is built to throw at you countless easy/unchallenging, but extremely time consuming tasks for you/your ship/what ever to progress/improve. Grind is not challenging nor is it beneficial in ANY kind of capacity, so defending it with "well it doesn't feel like it's that bad" or "bro, it's just a choice" is attempting to excuse objectively bad progression systems with your "feeeeeewings".
@@TheYamiks You calling me stupid boy? Care to step outside and repeat that? 🧐 But seriously, let me give you an example. You don't _need_ the longest jumping ship if you want to explore. Just get the pre-engineered FSD and slap it in your Phantom. But your neighbours fully pimped out Anaconda jumps 5 ly further? Who gives a flying rats ass? As he's filing all his components to make them super light and fragile, you could be half way across the galaxy in your off the shelf Phantom. There's the grind and nearly all the content creators show you how to do it, then complain about the grind. Or you can play the game, have fun and progress a bit slower. After all “It's not the destination, it's the journey.”
The galaxy sim that Dr. Kay put together for Elite is amazing. The variety of celestial objects, the crazy orbital systems possible... I never fail to appreciate finding and learning about some new and real phenomena out in deep space. I hope Frontier fleshes out xbio and planet surfaces one day so exploration on planets becomes as deep as in space.
I still play, actually. But I play with the idea of having fun, not to min max or do high-end stuff since I don't have time for that anyway. I love the world and environments. Raiding settlement or scavenging in abandoned places is fun. Space combat is still a good time.
Elite Dangerous has kept me going through lock down and the grind is real, I've been grinding factions around the Cemiess star system doing passenger and trade missions. The game is so massive that I'm nowhere near finished completing the afore mentioned grind, Frontier must be doing something right as I've been playing Elite for more than two thousand hours. With that said I'd like to see more gameplay elements that draw players toward Thargoids, you need to go out of your way for Thargoid combat as even with my play time I've never seen a Thargoid.
Honestly, before I started dogfighting, what really attracted me of this game was exploration. They should work on that, make it more interesting, work on the planets and make them more interactive. Imagine having air traffic between cities on terraformed planets, and in-planet missions that would require small fighters and ships. Something to cast aside the grinding and actually focusing on gameplay, make it fun to play over and over again.
I think they mean because it doesn't work in Odyssey on-foot. All you get is like a giant monitor to look at in VR, not you being in a VR world. I saw a video the other day that explained why it's like this now. It turns out that VR was only added to Elite in the first place because one of the devs was a VR enthusiast, and he did it all in his own spare time. The only reason it wasn't added to Odyssey is because he left the company before Ody was made. And of course, FDev didn't bother getting a replacement dev to do anything with the VR side of the game, so they just left it as is.
Because the player base convinced themselves it was an actual supported feature they were maintaining. It actually was merely enabled and worked fine for a very long time, but the performance requirements of odyssey content made VR unfeasible in those areas. They are calling it dead because it doesn't work for the full game(although you dont have to interact with odyssey content so it doesn't really matter).
I played Starfield for a bit, but every minute of playing it just screamed at me to play Elite: Dangerous / Odyssey instead. Elite: Dangerous is a space sim / game, whereas Starfield is an RPG where you go to space sometimes.
I was thinking the same thing. get the new ships, learn the new power play. but unless something changes we are getting near the end of this game. I love it. spent MONTH playing it each night to do distant worlds 2. probably the best game I have ever played.
I am actually re-installing for this update and to fly my Type 9 again. I have played Star Citizen but I am a space trader. Not a smuggler, pirate, or a combat enthusiast.
if elite dangerous would finally make it able to walk around inside ships they could make a big comback in the space sim genre Boarding missions, interacting with other players, mounting the guns etc. So much potential but instead they focus on the thargoids (its nice and all but not what all the players want in the end)
7:52 I like core mining as much as the next guy but SC has it beat, even currently. Dropping a couple charges then shooting a few fragments. Not super compelling, it's fun splitting the 4 different asteroids but it gets old quick and selling doesn't have much gameplay I won't mention laser mining, you'd have to be pretty bored. No planet mining (besides shooting a rock with the srv) no refining, no coop mining, no real customization or upgrades
I played ED for a few weeks after abandoning it for SC, but I've been considering coming back to ED for a long time now as I really enjoyed mining in ED quite a lot.
Still always drop into ED, by far my fav space sim game. I just hope the "end" is far away long after i've moved on, be very sad to not be able to play (perhaps a solo port would come around, who knows)
The best space game mining is in Space Engineers. In SE you actually feel like you are mining (the ship gets heavier, the mining leaves a hole - you can tunnel into the ground/asteroid), it doesn;t feel like you are playing a mini game (all this after you build your own mining rig/ship of course).
I love Space Engineers, but I disagree that they have a better mining system. true, SE has a little bit better faked physics in case of cargo weight, but I love that deep-core minigame from ED, with great sound and a pinch of luck. however, in SE you just rebound voxels, with boring sound and visual effects, and you need to have a luck to not be destroyed by clang if you dare to create huge and complicated mining machine...
I'm still playing this game Just for the fact that it can be played on both Keyboard and the hotas setup it's pretty neat and the controls are expectedly smooth. My hotas is literally the only reason to play this game for that level of Immersion.
Awesome ship- scenery- and sound design, and the best dogfighting in space games ever, meets shallow-ass game mechanics and placeholder everything. They shouldn't have made "customization" a pay-only thing, but should have integrated it into the game as rewards. They should have replaced "supercruise" by a more integrated mechanic for quick travel. They should have given the game more variety, by actually allowing fluctuating prices etc.
im just glad one of the big Elite-Tubers mentioned the console abandoment...i mean, im no game dev, but with how much they're pumping out, good or bad, youd assume consoles would have some news. but no, even the API extension is gone (at least on INARA)
Elite is great. I don't have much of a problem with the space legs thing as it's not a big draw for me anyway more of a little bonus. I am keen to see what they do with power play as I've never interacted with it and maybe it would open up something new for me. The biggest thing that stops me playing elite is the engineering grind. I love to get a ship and customise it for a purpose, but an hour after I started I couldn't be bothered.
Preach, brother yamiks! Thargoid could have been its own title, more arcad-y and brought in more cash for people who want that gameplay, which could have been spend on shoring up ED
There are plenty of problems with the game, but if you're looking for an immersive space game that can draw you in and surround you with ..space and stuff.. it's still easily the best-in-genre, and you haven't officially jaded yourself, it's still worth it. As worth it as it's ever been at least. Certainly, for a new player, the state of the game is better than ever. It's a solid experience, at least - and more newbie-friendly than it used to be, that's for sure. I'm a member of the "had to learn to land manually" club. That isn't to say I don't think the other big space games don't have their own reason and specialties.. I like ED, I like NMS, and I like X4 - I'm glad I don't have to choose just one.
After a few hundred hours and billions of credits, plus most but not all engineering done; I just come back in for a day or two every year or so to see what's new. The Thargoid conflict was interesting for awhile, but after killing hundreds of them in base defense; rescuing refugees by the thousands; and providing thousands of tons of emergency supplies, it gets old like everything else in-game. Nothing related to the titans themselves caught my interest since there was so little to do there for so long with "minimal consequences' to the conflict outcome! Including what was just released today for some group combat on the Titan itself. With such a solid base game, (Better than almost all other space games for ship control/ship combat/mining/shipping/passenger transport/exploration/planet landing mechanics; but sadly not on atmospheric planets which was a huge miss-step among many) it's a shame they squandered its long term potential. We needed reasons to come back, (Not just capitol ship maintenance costs, LOL) like every 6 months to add some detailed story arc related to the factions that had you chasing a mystery around the bubble or farther out in the black; with tangible rewards like special gear or a special ship as an end reward. Or something more like Eve where player organizations could carve out a foothold in a certain regions on the edge of the bubble. As an explorer, the dev's could of created numerous large trigger zones so as you go out in the black and run into a zone: an alien race region/weird signal is detected/or finding a lost/stranded expedition and a series of missions commences from that. Galnet messages could be received of the discoveries so other players could experience the same content. So much potential, wasted away year after empty year! The original passionate and creative dev's that made such a great base game literally handed the reigns over to a bunch of lazy corporate employees with no creative abilities or drive whatsoever!
I have had the game for months now. Got it free on Epic. I am just watching this to see if it is worth installing and sinking hours into. Thanks for the update!
I just ported my console profile over to PC, best thing I’ve done in a while, the game is still one of the best in its genre in my opinion. I’ve been on console since 2015, on PC now it’s like a new game to me.
Well, after sitting in a corner of my Steam list and collecting dust for I don't even know how long, I finally decided to give this thing a go a few days ago, and... yeah... 10 mins later I was Googling and Youtubing to figure out how to even operate the damn thing. Ran into your beginner's guide and had a a lot of good laughs. Sounds to me like this game and its developers are to you what Skyrim and Fallout 4 and Bethesta are to me. I'm still very new so I have yet to discover a lot of the issues that a lot of people have been pointing out, but decided to give it a shot while being aware of them. It's nowhere near Eve, but it does have a few things going for it.
best thing in this game i experienced was when i was total newb and ran out of fuel without a fuel scoop. i alt tabbed and searched what to do when you run out of fuel... basically i ran into fuel rats website. basically group of people that offer rescues to out of fuel people that get stranded. it was very professional service and it was free for some reason. i dont know if they are always free... but i was amazed with it and it was what made me continue play it.
Frontier should realize that ED is what made them and breathe new life into it. They already have a solid foundation and a complete overhaul would be more welcome and easier for them then a sequel ever would be.
Still fun after 500 hours. Half in pancake (collecting materials not need VR), half in VR (Thargoids battles and Titan core crack in VR is best). I still hope devs add vr on foot.
9:15 -- RE: ED being Immersive, "... It Truly Is..."; Well, I'll be magnanimous and grant you, it can be immersive, but the "feeling I'm really there" is an illusion no different than going to a movie theater. That is to say, because the players can *SUSPEND THEIR DISBELIEF* it is immersive, *But* once that suspension of disbelief stops, pal, that's the end of the immersion too. For starters, I cannot imagine that what I'm flying in ED is a Ship any longer, because I know the cockpit is actually a HUD and my "spaceship" is actually just fighting in a FPS, without any ground to walk or bunny hop over. In other words, ED is no better than Descent, at the end of the day, especially if the VR goes from excellent to busted / removed.
I know this was a month ago, but I’ve gotta be honest… I’m glad I got it for free so many years ago from the Epic store (I think 3-4 years ago). I’ve spent like… 150 hours in it and just recently just redownloaded and completely restarted.
Damn, I wish you had more influence! I'm one of those old players that came back, I got billions of credits, so aside from the grind to sup up my suit, there isn't really any game play left.
As of the new dev stream today Elite is getting a price drop, 21.99 pounds for a pack with the base game and Odyssey. Might make picking the game up for the first time more appealing
I wonder what would come of handing Elite’s codebase to another company in the future, even though I imagine that’s extremely implausible. I’d love to see what another company can create with Elite’s amazing foundation, considering Frontier as a company is unfortunately looking like a three-legged stool right now.
Every month I get the craving to dust off my HOTAS and take one of my babies for a spin. But then I think about what I would do aside from hunting in haz-rez sites and be bored after 15 minutes, so the dust collects
Exactly how I feel. I've used my HOTAS on every other flight sim _except_ Elite, specifically because I just can't be arsed to boot that game up again. Why bother?
I think they shot themselves in the foot by adding FPS content. They should have just expanded on the ship combat by progressing towards EVE(larger scale). If they gave you the ability to own larger ships, which could have smaller AI ships slaved to them, they could have expanded the scope of battles. Doing so, all of these alien encounters could have been massive and immersive fleet battles instead of the boring DPS check that they are now. That way, you would have something to grind towards. Eventually, they could have expanded it to have ownable PVP territories, the same way EVE does. At this point, I don't expect this game to outcompete Star Citizen. If they focused on one thing and made it really good, they might have been able to.
The FPS content coulda been alright, but I find myself giving way more of a fuck about the potential of spacelegs for exploration and immersion. Imagine if there were more alien structures and even wrecked human exploration ships randomly scattered throughout space, and you could collect interesting things from them and display them throughout your ship.
i just recently came back to do a little space trucking. I was midway through a trip to Colonia so now I'm there. When I got there, non-stop 50 mill bertrandite missions. I thought "hell yeah thats why I was coming back out here" but then the missions either dried up or someone is taking all of them.
I got it for the VR experience (or really, I got VR specifically to try it in Elite) but dropped it cold over the simultaneous introduction of space legs and FDev's bafflingly poor handling of the """slaver""" controversy. Oddly satisfied that I left a sinking ship.
I follow the financial markets as part of what I do and I've seen this before. First they lay off as many staff as possible to cut costs and increase what little profit margin they have. Now they're adding these 'new' features which are low effort leftovers which they can enable with the few developers they have left. Why? It's one of the last games they have with any kind of reliable player base. All this to eek out the last bit of profit to make the company more attractive to potential buyers. I would bet you'll see the remaining assets of Frontier up for sale within a couple of years.
10:10 - nailed it Thanks, this answered most of my questions, looking back from the odyssey launch. Except, does Odyssey planet tech still look like a stack of books under a blanket? Also I assume that not mentioning fixing multi-crew means it still isnt viable.
Its a great game, Im still enjoying playing it, smashing thargs, watching a titan get obliterated, its all good. As you say, you can just fly around and pew, mine, truck, you dont need to grind the engineering to play.
Balanced Video, Yamiks, They should really have Stuck to ships as they were very very good at this, apart from the engineering Grind, but ships and ship fighting was far better than SC and I play that a lot...roughly 16500hrs in Elite over the years. I personally gave up 3 years ago. I believe it was the Carrier (cost/time) update that ruined it for me.
The only 'hard' thing about carriers now, is the initial 5 billion cost. Running costs are so easy to get these days that they are literally insignificant now. I can get my weekly upkeep simply by doing just one high intensity on-foot conflict zone, and have cash to spare. Granted, my carrier only has rearm/refuel/repair installed, so a weekly cost of 9.5 million, but a 20 minute CZ easily gets me that, and about 100-120 Arx at the same time. Four of them will easily cap my weekly Arx, and net me anywhere between 40-60 million, all in less than a couple of hours.
Ever since the Great Disjunction (We will live Forever...in Legacy) left me behind... ... apparently 21st century retailers don't accept the Warm Fuzzys i get paid in as Valid Curreny... ... I've had issues with maintaining my persona. Especially given that BGS manipulation was the thing that actually hooked me. (I singlehandedly spread my Best Faction Friend to 20 systems and even negotiated it's survival when the Blue Wings of everyone's favorite Mystic Anime Space Princess swept through my neighborhood) The recent announcement of new ships is Even Worse. Why? I deliberately chose to be a 34th century SnakeShip Salesman & Not a 21st century SnakeCoin Salesman for a reason (yes i could have made a killing fleecing rubes with Brooklyn Bridge NFTs and such), that being that much like the Sleek Brick-like Styling of the Keelback i come equipped with Morals and a soul 😇. The thought that my Insane Ravings might cause some poor kid to spend Real World money on a (poorly optimized apparently) PTW ShipFriend fills me with dread. I will probably drop my "So long & thanks for all the Fish" post this Kraitsmas season for those Poor Unfortunate Souls who seem to like me. I owe them that much for sure. Have Fun&Post Dangerous -Lakon Marketing Division, Keelback Office -'Only ship in the Galaxy to come equipped with a soul 😇'
What really got me to quit the game was the fact that when engaging with the BGS (minor faction systems and such) players that play solo mode can affect what you are doing, even against you, and there is nothing you can do about it. It was especially bad for me and my group of friends since we got our own minor faction to manage and were undermined by "solo" players. While things like this dont change our group wont be coming back to play, sadly.
I'm so tossed up on Elite. I love it and it's one of my favorite space games. Even though I've invested real money in Star Citizen, I still think Elite is the better "space Sim". But I don't have a lot of time in it, maybe a couple of hundred hours, and engineering grind is killer for those busy with jobs and family. I really want to come back but I feel like I may end up putting in time for nothing if they shut down in the next year or two.
I stopped playing a couple of years ago out of boredom. I came back a month ago because I bought a pc that can more than handle VR (5600x 3070ti). Turns out it can't handle Elite Dangerous in VR so i'm gone again.
@@iamatlantis132GB minimum for Elite in VR. It was almost 30 GB RAM last time I played. 3070Ti is held back by idiots that put 8GB of VRAM on it. That card should have came with 16. All 3070Ti models need recalled, and full refund. But, they will get away with that stupidity. As always
Maybe they are trying to increase its apparent value before selling it off. Anyway, I'll keep riding it until it's over. Our squadron has actually gotten a few newbie players fairly recently.
The problem is that although I have a few bil and most ships (all that matter) and most ranks topped (not all, got bored before that) and thousands of hours, I would be a complete noob if I return I barely remember to fly, let alone the intricacies of the game.
I have high hopes for the future of this long-running game series. I am completely enamored and obsessed with it and i guarantee to be playing it for a long time. As a new player i have yet to experience "The Grind" but I'm glad i am sufficiently prepared for it. = -) I completely agree with you but i gladly take the good with that bad. Ever since the days of Freelancer have i awaiting a game like this and I'm definitely a life-long fan. Great video man, keep on rockin' in the free stars! 👍😎👍
I'd check it out again but I'm a console player and I've no idea what's going on with the game outside of them abandoning console development. Didn't end up hearing about the PC transfer they were meant to be doing.
Base building huh, from the same developers who claimed that walking through my ship would be boring.
Can't wait to watch Yamiks video about it. o7
I always thought their excuse for no ship interiors was a lie. I mean,. if it were true, why in Gods name do we have to walk the entire length of a Cutter to get to the door of the hangar in stations? That's WAY more tedious than walking inside a ship.
@@jasonking5405if you jump on top of corvette, you can see how small the pilot seats are compared to player models, which tells us how fucked scaling is between whole game and odyssey, thats prob the reason they abandoned ship interiors
@@Сталкер-ь2х This could be resolved by having the interiors fit into an instance outside of your system or whatever. This could mean your ship is unusable when walking around but I would take it just for The Expanse vibes
Looks they're just doing some changes to signage in stations in relation to powerplay.
Im not gonna lie, what brings me back is just the audio engineering the devs did for ED. Ill burn some time listening to a new album while listening to the sweet reverbs and synthesizing of events in space every so often. It needs alot, and it ignored its most ardent player base at times, but the audio is still king for the genre imo.
Audio engineering in this game is absolutly amazing.
you're totally right. it's unmatched in my opinion.
The audio is amazing in this game. It's so immersive!
If they put their minds to it.. Would it truly be so difficult to make an ingame commercial trade data base?
Have you seen the outdated, unscalable game code of the Cobra Game Engine??? Not just gonna happen because they put their minds to it.
You would think they could make something like a grand exchange but multiple instances.
@@Mr.Free2Play no, but i'd be interested to. How have you seen it?
That would be beneficial to the players, so FDEV will make that a hard no.
I understand the shortcomings, but I'm loving how good Elite is basically, or fundamentally. The nuts and bolts are there. An entire Milky Way Galaxy, fun ships, an economy, great graphics and sound, etc... I'm enjoying it.
Its very immersive. I feel like a starship pilot, blazing a trail across the galaxy while making money/credits!
I agree, though I did find it hard to have a purpose or reason to play. That changed when I joined an active squadron. People to wing up with or chat about the game and furthering the cause with the BGS gave me a purpose and now I’m really enjoying the game again.
@@Andromeda_456 Absolutely. It REALLY helps to create a purpose or goal. Then you can dive in to go for it.
I'm going for a Vette now, for the first time. Can't wait to get it!
this game, it’s literally another job lmao
The economy isn’t real…
You speak alot of truth, i look back at my time with the game and really enjoyed it and I will come back. But I stopped having such high hopes for it and this is way better for expectation management
was I speaking LIES before/after/??? wut!?
@@TheYamiks boy that escalated quickly
Yes. If you look at it as a "finished" product that not geting more content, and you just enjoy the stuff you like time to time, it is quite good.
Just don't hope anything, because it is a guaranteed disappointment.
@@TheYamiks he said "you speak a lot of truth"
it's not like he said "...in this video" or anything like that
'nuff said
i'm out
I feel the same way. For me, I don’t play anymore Yet I still watch videos and keep up with the updates.
I don’t do this for any other game.
I saw the other day that VR was only done in Elite because one of the original devs was a VR enthusiast, and he did it all in his own spare time. VR stopped being developed in Elite simply because that one single dev left the company, and no-one else knew what (or how) to do anything with it... and of course, FDev didn't bother getting a proper VR dev in to get all up and running in Odyssey. If they had, well, ED could have been soooo much better for it.
Completely agree. VR is the only way I’ve played ED and I am still feeling disenfranchised. FDev, I just don’t understand why you continue to ignore what your players want. Bring back VR.
@@cmdramphetamine6855 Wait what? You can't play Elite in VR now?
@@Skylark42 Yes you can play Horizons in VR as before and you can play Odyssey in VR until you are walking then you get the 2D projection. I should have said, “please support VR for space legs”.
nah, that's complete BS. ""VR" is just HMD and head mounted displays suck for gameplay. Every game that was infected with that parasitic cancer went downhill. You can have game that's for "VR" HMDs or game that's fun
First login today in 4 years after spending 618hrs ingame. Had got Horizons, bought a fleet carrier, did the Low Temp Diamond/ overlapping hotspot mining subgame for a month or so then parked everything as the whole thing got so monotonous. Now back and has anything really changed ? Certainly doesn't seem it apart from the LTDs being decimated. I've read that surface Platinum mining is now the go-to and trying it today, I'm certainly no where near 150m creds/hour as advertised. And if Yamiks is right about player numbers, this only confirms my fears.
What are the chances of Elite: Dangerous solo play being modified to be able to play offline ? At least that way, if Frontier and their servers do go belly up, the game can continue.
Even the Powerplay Overhaul isn't new. Sandro Sammarco was gathering ideas for it back in circa 2017-2018 before he left the Elite Dev team. So, who knows? the Powerplay stuff they've sat on for years now.
Engineers needs doing way more than Powerplay. And they NEED to re-look at the offline Client and get that rolling again (as it was an original Kickstarter promise) and then open it up to mods, and let the community work on it instead. Been saying this now for YEARS.
This
I loved this game so fucking much while I was grinding with buddies and pushing power play. I know it's not exciting at all but it was something we could fuck around with. I've got an anaconda and a Vette both mid way engineered as well as tons of smaller ships. I might have to pick it back up if it kicks back off.
Same here Corvette and Anaconda plus almost every ship in game. I left when they introduced Fleet Carriers as new "content"
EDDB shutting down was when I stopped playing
Wow I didn't even know it shut down, that's so gay
I started playing two days ago, and saw online I should be using EDDB and couldn’t find it. Is it useful?
Yes, that was my go-to! Lots of cargo mining painite. EDDB and staff, thank you for my billions of credits, ....to spend?!🤷
INRA took over
It's why I never came back
According to Steam, I last played ED on March 29, 2021. Lat time I played I was on my way to the second bubble area with some tourists. I am some place in the middle of nowhere. I intended to log back in and finish that mission. But, it has been nearly 3 years and I do not think that will happen.
I was on my way to the second bubble when they announced fleet carriers and resolved that I'll go to the second bubble and get back to the main bubble for the release, which I managed.
But then the fleet carriers were such a letdown I just stopped playing.
I parked my python and realized I was about to deliver mail to become a rear admiral just so I could use a ship to blast away hundreds of ships and make less than I could make from mining for 10 minutes
Your poor tourists in space: 💀💀💀
My reason that it's still worth it is much different than everyone elses reason. It's my only relief from my job. Flying around and exploring helps get my shitty ass job off my mind. By the end of the day I am ready to burn down the building. But somehow, playing elite gets my mind off it.
True so true
This is so true. Against all the odds, contrary to all the wasted potential - Elite Dangerous has its special place in my heart. Its tough love, though.
5980 hours space trucking in elite dangerous and listening to TheYamiks videos.
Nice I'm around 4500 on main and few hundred on each alt.
@Make_Canada_Trudeau-Less-Again I liked PET too bad his kid is such a muppet lol.
@Make_Canada_Trudeau-Less-AgainWell if we're being THAT raw, maybe PET should have encouraged his eldest to love to ski lol.
Probably due to familiarity, but nobody ever mentions how awkward and burdensome the new player experience is in ED. More than once I've heard gamer youtubers say "I tried it but applied for a steam refund". That's people who are experienced with games and bought a game saying "the new player experience does not give me enough reason to keep playing it within my reasonable time frame".
Two of my biggest issues there are the massive brick wall of the control setup to even start flying, and the lack of information for where to find systems / stations / factions for doing anything at all throughout the game. If your players need third-party tools to be able to *find the gameplay in your game*, that's a really big sign as to where to focus your improvement efforts.
People used to mention it, but since they improved the in game tutorials, people just started to talk about it less frequently. I started playing when it was released on ps4, and at the time, the tutorial was basically a handful of 5min missions with the bare minimum, plus a few links to youtube videos, all started from the main menu. No in depth explanations, no noob restricted star systems, no anything else.Took me hours of gameplay and trial and error to understand stuff that is pretty much basics and core elements, like ship modules for example.
I haven’t played for about two years. The engineering, nerfing trading, lack of new content and the focus of the aliens drove me away. It’s sad, It could have been great.
One thing, one little idea, that could add some interesting new fun to the game is the ability to COLONIZE star systems and planets!!!! It would give a meaningful reason to EXPLORE, MINE for resources, and have COMBAT ships to defend it. Find a star system with an ELW, explore it for resources. Explore neighboring systems for resources. Build a station in orbit on the ELW. Use it as a base of operations. Build a "city" on the ELW. If Thargoids or pirates show up, combat players can defend it. Your gameplay would actually matter in the universe, instead of a stupid virtual commodity market that has no tangible consequences. Shit, they could even toss in a new alien civilization that could either be an ally to humanity or another antagonist! Hey, maybe create some nomadic android civilization that was left behind by their creators due to some great cataclysm the wiped them out?
Players could literally build a new bubble in another part of the galaxy few have ever ventured to.
Isn't some of this already possible with Player Owned Factions? Factions own entire star systems and factions can take over stations in orbit and on the ground by completing missions for the faction, engaging in combat against rival factions, etc...
@@silo_olis yes but with base building
@@silo_olisWhat I'm talking about is migrating to an unsettled star system and mining resources to build new civilizations, not take control of existing stations. Here's the idea, an FC brings a fleet of exploration and mining ships to a remote region to find mining resources and ELW's to settle. You mine for resources that are used to build stations and cities that don't yet exist there. Space truckers bring in goods like food and medicine until the star system becomes self-sufficient. Passenger ships haul in NPC workers. Pilots explore, mine, defend, and build new civilizations that didn't exist before.
Interesting idea. Guardian generation ships that avoided Skynet's destruction of the species. According to lore the Guardians were a lot like humanity in how they evolved and how their society was structured. Them being enemies to the Thargoids gives them the perfect reason to become allies with humanity when rediscovered. You could hire Guardian crew, buy Guardian ships, buy Guardian suits (if they're THAT close to humanity) and weapons, trade resources between humans and Guardians... fuck I just created X4: Foundations without the automatic player economy. Perhaps they would be very far away from the bubble, not too far but maybe 2,500 ly or so, just to encourage combat mains to explore a little bit and to engineer long range ships, just like new weapons and new ships alongside a bit of a profitability increase would encourage people who hate combat to maybe give it a shot.
After over 3000 hours and taking a multi year break due to BGS burn-out, I reinstalled recently, though I did not pickup odyssey. I changed out my old fleet, EXCEPT MY PYTHON (best ship in the game fight me) for some new ships and now I'm parked in Shinrarta awaiting the new ships while I scan systems in the bubble for Raxxla. So nice to jump in for 30 minutes and fly around for a while. Nothing else comes close to the feeling.
Just buy an eagle and a grade it, then fly around with flight assist off, it's the real fun in this game
Grind, grind, grind all day, grind your brain away... :D Thanks Yamiks, for looking upt the lack of progress on E:D every once in a while so I don't have to and can keep nursing my nostalgia. Very much appreciated!
Thats why i love X4, you need to grind only until you aquire enough money to buy a few ships, then the grind is automated and you can do whatever you want.
@@efxnews4776That's why Devs invented secondary and tertiary ingame currencies, like Engineering Materials, that can't be crosstraded of course. You can't escape the grind in E:D! :D
@@DerKaetzer That's the true problem of the game indeed, if Engineering wasn't required (because now it kinda is to do some activities) it would be okay, but the fact that we almost need to engineer is what is killing the game. Spending so many hours just grinding for a single ship... IF it has to be necessary, then make so it doesn't cost so many ressources.
@@DerKaetzer make no mistake, X4 has some other types of currency wich are upgrade materials, but they aren't essential to the progress, is more like for your personal ships, the ones you would be using mostly.
There's also "HQ Research" wich would be ways to aquire perks for the player, that cost resources, but is fully automated, it just take time, altough you could if you want direct deliver the resources speeding up the process.
I tried X4 but i didn't get on with it found myself stuck for an hour trying to work out what to do but gave up reminded me of when i first played Elite no instructions no clear plan on what to do next
@@efxnews4776
I came back from Star Citizen to Elite Dangerous
I've restarted my flying sessions lately, after about 2years away, working on engineers (just unlocked Marco Quent and now need to farm mats before starting Professor Palin... sight).
I really wish the rework of Powerplay might give a better "meaning" for gameplay.
But i fear that base building will require Odyssey, because i only use Horizon (i don't even own Odyssey) and usually fly with TrackIR and sometimes even use VR.
... Reducing engineer mat grind would be such a quick win...
ALL the "current gameplay" they have done has been locked behind the half-assed NMS clone pay-gate that is odyssey.
I decided to skip the middle man and just play NMS. i miss the space-combat of Ed (even with it's nerfed flight-mechanics of no-rudder the turret, gimbal and variety of hardpoints and sub-systems generally made for an engaging knife-fight even if it was 99% decided by the spin-to-win angular velocity) but EVERY other aspect outside of the space-rock mining is far superior and more immersive in NMS.
hel i say this as someone who only really likes NMS because of the side-track distractions and the RNG timing "expedition" live-events. tho i do need to try the atlas path main/original quest again now the recent update "changed" it.
NMS is paper thin, miles wide, just like Ed but they were far better at adding things that made the game more interesting rather than simply more of a grind to feel as powerful as you started out.
Easy fixes that can be accomplished by the devs in an afternoon and will make this game a lot better:
- either reduce grinding for materials and guardian modules by at least 75-90% or make engineering way less important to actually play late game content, otherwise there will never be new players
- power play only in open
- power play modules unlocked forever once you first earn them
- double the jump range of everything
- native index tool with eddb/inara functionalities
- remove carrier upkeep, even if initial purchase price goes up
- cut the "sponginess" of FPS targets by at least half
- remove asp scout
Harder things to implement but that we really need on the game
- at least 2 new ships per year
- ship interiors
- base building
- remove solo play. Only open play, but with a pvp flag for who wants to engage in pvp. No flag, no interdiction.
- make it so player groups cannot influence NPC factions out of existence, thereby making ot impossible for newer players to earn certain system permits
remove asp scout real asf. Also PLEASE PLEASE SHIP INTERIORS WHAT IS LEGS WITHOUT INTERIORS
@@bananuuu1879 ...just empty, leg-shaped husks...
The asp scout was personal
This was all good but please don't remove the Asp. We need more ships , not less and the way to do it is to give the Asp a reason fir existing
@@bananuuu1879 why is the asp scout hated so much
How insane would it be if the new feature would actually be Ship Interiors.
It would 100% be better than Base Building ...
Which is why it will probably be Base Building XD
XD
Because the walk from ship door to elevator door is long enough thank you. And if ones ship is getting blasted it dosent help adding time from door to cockpit
@@lindinle Yeah. Thx for this copy-paste reply.
Let me debunk it very quickly:
A. How about ... we just keep the blue-circle?
Mind blown I know.
B. How about ... you just insta-teleport back when you take dmg?
Mind blown again ... I know.
@@LukazChrom so you just want them to add a vestigial feature that would mean nothing...very mind blowing. 9_9
@@lindinle Perhaps "nothing" to you.
* looks at my 1,014 hours counter on E:D *
YAMIIIIIIIIIIIIKS!
I jest - found your channel only recently and i enjoy watching your videos on this subject, as well as others
It was a fucking good game but missing some of the things that liked the most like being able to walk in your ship (may seems accessory but when i started playing Star citizen it blew my mind)
all i wanted was a fun and engaging space-game i could fight my way through and have an excuse to move around within looking for interesting things.
Now all i can see is that simply staying in one place in the bubble next to an RES area resetting the instance is the ENTIRE combat gameplay other than the thargoid fights that mandate ONE specific playstyle, 3-4 specific builds/fits and don't seem to provide any meaningful reward beyond simply existing.
Oh and to get those fits/builds you needed to engage with the RNG "resource farming" system and RNG output engineering, and the toiling of getting thousands of the right kind of trade-good (handed out by the ten) to faction grind your way into access to the engineers.
At which point i walked away hoping for something to change (it didn't), and eventually installed a myriad of other games instead (including NMS and warframe that despite being focussed on walking-sim/third-person-horde-shooting respectively have way BETTER flight and combat encounters, tho not quite flight mechanics than ED ever has). That NMS can throw in a generic "capital ship fight" and it outperforms ED with it's way more detailed systems is damning, I just wisht he WF community hadn't over-farmed then rejected the railjack system so hard (as a solo/duo player with 2+Ai crew gun/engi it's a fun experience, HORRIBLE with 3-4 players/randoms tho) as the potential for alternate ships/builds/encounters was huge.
Other builds are also reliable, just there is one meta that everybody follows.
Rewardwise, it gives you credit and plenty engineer material. So there is reward. But not at the Titan. That is useless really.
Otherwise I kinda agree.
railjack even with its barebones missions is so fun, real shame
can you please show me those non-meta builds?
this request is coming from t10 ax pilot, @@Neo-vz8nh
and unfortunately, unlike with X4, the RNG based engineering can't be modded out because it's online only. I doubt it will happen but hopefully with their dying breath, Frontier makes ED an offline game, even if it doubles the filesize (meaning it would rival RDR2 in just how much space it takes up on your PC). This would enable a whole new world of shenanigans with mods and cheats and third party programs to make it as much of a sandbox as it is a simulator. Also, exchange arx for ingame credits since I feel like very few players actually use the ship cosmetics due to either having to buy them or having to grind for months to build up enough arx to get even one cosmetic pack. Hell it took me three weeks just to get a fucking paint job for my anaconda.
@@lsswappedcessna ha, buying arx! I couldnt buy them even if i wanted to. Its impossible to buy anything from fdev legaly in my country
new player here, dove into ED a couple of months ago, and 180 hours of gameplay later, I'm really loving it. the exploration, ship building, economy, and spaceship flying/combat are unmatched within current space games imo (aint counting Star Citizen, it aint finished).
it achieves nearly everything I wanted from it. I came off of playing no mans sky, and therefore I wasn't needing or expecting the level of on planet exploration or base building that game had. No Mans Sky lives within a much more vast universe that goes for a fantasy setting. ED works perfectly as a more realistic space sim game, I don't need massive generated earth like worlds or city building to enjoy this game.
I'm hopeful for the future of the game even despite its age. I'm super excited for the power play update. power play was one of the elements that originally stood out to me from ED from afar, but I was disappointed by how little its implemented in the actual game. hopefully it becomes more of a factor and drives PvP and gives an actual reason to pledge/work for a faction.
Also if the base building thing is true, that's hype for me. I'm an explorer, and the idea of going into the black and being able to build an actual home base/outpost is really fuckin cool.
Base building?, like for real?
I still can't walk inside my ship, heck I can't not even watch the back of the cabin if I don't use the free camera.... and they are working on base buildings?, what for?
Are we even going to be able to go inside? (I really don't care), Why would I want a planetary base of my own?, I usually avoid them because of the time it takes to land on them?
Most people playing Elite are grown ups, we don't have time to waste, we want space combat, different trading experiences, mining, etc.
I play ETS2, I try to spend the smallest time I can inside my garage and the more time I can driving my truck, Who cares about base building?
I hope they really get us new ships to the game, its been a while, and hope they are not just copy paste of the old ones with one more or less hardpoint. After all this years, dissapointing players on this last point would really be the dead of Elite Dangerous. Cheers!
The saddest thing about Elite Dangerous is that we will never get full atmospheric worlds with dinosaurs and such that I seem to remember them talking about waaaayyyyy back when. I guess the best I'll get is the cartoon version (no man's sky). Still enjoyed hundreds of hours of what we got. Nothing beats demolishing things in a Python/Corvette, and then getting lost in the stars after grinding thousands of passenger missions/space trucking/mining.
im confident were gonna get a newer game that isnt tied down to last gen consoles but they could of done that with 4.0 but who knows
Yeah. I remember Braben saying about how fleshed out the earth-like worlds were gonna be, you could be a big game hunter and even earn a reputation as such!
.. And now we're 10 years into the games lifecycle and you can still only land on planets slightly more lifelike than our moon. Everything in Elite: Dangerous honestly felt so groundbreaking at the time that felt reasonable if they kept up the pace. This game will always hold a special place in my heart because of what it achieved but it will always be bittersweet because of the things that were NOT achieved. It will always be a huge step forward in the 'Space-sim' (Sim-Lite?) genre though, and I'm hopeful new cool stuff will continue getting developed until we inch ever closer to that sweet, sweet, full fidelity immersive space sim universe with ACTUALLY no limits. That'll be a day to be a space fan!
nobody need dinosauries, theyre anyways just a lie to stable the evolution theory dogshit.
As much as i enjoy the core gameplay of Elite Dangerous, I just haven't been able to enjoy it since engineering was introduced, It's not even the grind so much as the gradual drift away from space SIM to space RPG witch so many other games do better.
Haven't played ED since Horizons. It was a fun albeit super grindy experience. Not sure how many hours I spent, but I had a fully engineered Corvette and Anaconda with a full assortment of engineered components to use it for combat, mining, trading, exploration... anything really. I started playing while waiting for SC development, but when SC starting making meaningful progress I dropped ED. I have fond memories.
The grind is a choice. You don't actually need to grind all the engineers either, just pick the ones you want/need.
Still a very accurate description of the current situation Yam.
That's still a grind, though. You still have to go fuck-all out of your way to get the resources you need in order to upgrade your ship with the Engineers, and then you have to do it over and over again for each part you want to Engineer. Instead of... you know... just being able to buy all of the shit you need off of the market, like you should be able to in what is this future sci-fi universe that's literally full of every resource imaginable. I don't have to go out into the desert and blast rocks in real life if I want to improve my Sedan. Why do I have to do that to improve a space ship in the future?
The grind isn't a choice when the only way to progress your ship's advancement is a grind by its very nature and design. Which it is. The _worst_ thing is, it wasn't always like this! Letter-grading ship parts was a much cleaner and more understandable way of ship upgrades, but then they had to go ahead and fuck it all up by adding this absolutely batshit granularity that was The Engineers. instead of keeping it simple and branching out from there, they added this impossible-to-balance complexity and turned it into an absolute chore. Typical Frontier.
saying that "grind is a choice" is downright stupid.
If you consider "not progressing" in a game as valid, acceptable option/choice then I fear to think what you consider even mildly bad?!
you do realize that you are willingly ignoring the game structure..that the game is built to throw at you countless easy/unchallenging, but extremely time consuming tasks for you/your ship/what ever to progress/improve. Grind is not challenging nor is it beneficial in ANY kind of capacity, so defending it with "well it doesn't feel like it's that bad" or "bro, it's just a choice" is attempting to excuse objectively bad progression systems with your "feeeeeewings".
@@TheYamiks You calling me stupid boy? Care to step outside and repeat that? 🧐
But seriously, let me give you an example. You don't _need_ the longest jumping ship if you want to explore. Just get the pre-engineered FSD and slap it in your Phantom. But your neighbours fully pimped out Anaconda jumps 5 ly further?
Who gives a flying rats ass? As he's filing all his components to make them super light and fragile, you could be half way across the galaxy in your off the shelf Phantom.
There's the grind and nearly all the content creators show you how to do it, then complain about the grind.
Or you can play the game, have fun and progress a bit slower. After all “It's not the destination, it's the journey.”
The galaxy sim that Dr. Kay put together for Elite is amazing. The variety of celestial objects, the crazy orbital systems possible... I never fail to appreciate finding and learning about some new and real phenomena out in deep space. I hope Frontier fleshes out xbio and planet surfaces one day so exploration on planets becomes as deep as in space.
I still play, actually. But I play with the idea of having fun, not to min max or do high-end stuff since I don't have time for that anyway.
I love the world and environments. Raiding settlement or scavenging in abandoned places is fun. Space combat is still a good time.
Aye I do the same, I don't care about the thargoids or grind. So I just hunt bounties and fuck about
@@markspc1285 Yeah I find the missions involving raiding settlements or restoring power. When interdicted drop out of super cruise to fight.
Elite Dangerous has kept me going through lock down and the grind is real, I've been grinding factions around the Cemiess star system doing passenger and trade missions. The game is so massive that I'm nowhere near finished completing the afore mentioned grind, Frontier must be doing something right as I've been playing Elite for more than two thousand hours.
With that said I'd like to see more gameplay elements that draw players toward Thargoids, you need to go out of your way for Thargoid combat as even with my play time I've never seen a Thargoid.
I still don’t understand why they did Odyssey when they could have adapted that style gameplay to SRV’s and it could have been so much more fun.
Honestly, before I started dogfighting, what really attracted me of this game was exploration. They should work on that, make it more interesting, work on the planets and make them more interactive. Imagine having air traffic between cities on terraformed planets, and in-planet missions that would require small fighters and ships. Something to cast aside the grinding and actually focusing on gameplay, make it fun to play over and over again.
Why is Elite VR Dead? (legit curious) I used VR with Elite last week and it was fun
I think they mean because it doesn't work in Odyssey on-foot. All you get is like a giant monitor to look at in VR, not you being in a VR world.
I saw a video the other day that explained why it's like this now. It turns out that VR was only added to Elite in the first place because one of the devs was a VR enthusiast, and he did it all in his own spare time. The only reason it wasn't added to Odyssey is because he left the company before Ody was made. And of course, FDev didn't bother getting a replacement dev to do anything with the VR side of the game, so they just left it as is.
Because the player base convinced themselves it was an actual supported feature they were maintaining. It actually was merely enabled and worked fine for a very long time, but the performance requirements of odyssey content made VR unfeasible in those areas. They are calling it dead because it doesn't work for the full game(although you dont have to interact with odyssey content so it doesn't really matter).
The Titan battles are amazing, loving the game right now.
I played Starfield for a bit, but every minute of playing it just screamed at me to play Elite: Dangerous / Odyssey instead. Elite: Dangerous is a space sim / game, whereas Starfield is an RPG where you go to space sometimes.
I was thinking the same thing. get the new ships, learn the new power play. but unless something changes we are getting near the end of this game. I love it. spent MONTH playing it each night to do distant worlds 2. probably the best game I have ever played.
I am actually re-installing for this update and to fly my Type 9 again. I have played Star Citizen but I am a space trader. Not a smuggler, pirate, or a combat enthusiast.
if elite dangerous would finally make it able to walk around inside ships they could make a big comback in the space sim genre
Boarding missions, interacting with other players, mounting the guns etc. So much potential but instead they focus on the thargoids (its nice and all but not what all the players want in the end)
7:52 I like core mining as much as the next guy but SC has it beat, even currently. Dropping a couple charges then shooting a few fragments. Not super compelling, it's fun splitting the 4 different asteroids but it gets old quick and selling doesn't have much gameplay
I won't mention laser mining, you'd have to be pretty bored. No planet mining (besides shooting a rock with the srv) no refining, no coop mining, no real customization or upgrades
I played ED for a few weeks after abandoning it for SC, but I've been considering coming back to ED for a long time now as I really enjoyed mining in ED quite a lot.
why abandon SC?
@@BLACKICEXlV never said I abandoned SC, simply saying I am considering playing ED again.
Everything is true. Still best VR space game out there.
Great Video !
Thank you.
Cheers to the future of Space Sim games and may Elite forever be amongst the genres finest. 🥂💥
Still always drop into ED, by far my fav space sim game. I just hope the "end" is far away long after i've moved on, be very sad to not be able to play (perhaps a solo port would come around, who knows)
The best space game mining is in Space Engineers. In SE you actually feel like you are mining (the ship gets heavier, the mining leaves a hole - you can tunnel into the ground/asteroid), it doesn;t feel like you are playing a mini game (all this after you build your own mining rig/ship of course).
You can do that in Empyrion too.
I love Space Engineers, but I disagree that they have a better mining system. true, SE has a little bit better faked physics in case of cargo weight, but I love that deep-core minigame from ED, with great sound and a pinch of luck. however, in SE you just rebound voxels, with boring sound and visual effects, and you need to have a luck to not be destroyed by clang if you dare to create huge and complicated mining machine...
If you want some amazing space mining try Delta V Rings of Saturn.
I'm still playing this game Just for the fact that it can be played on both Keyboard and the hotas setup it's pretty neat and the controls are expectedly smooth. My hotas is literally the only reason to play this game for that level of Immersion.
Awesome ship- scenery- and sound design, and the best dogfighting in space games ever, meets shallow-ass game mechanics and placeholder everything.
They shouldn't have made "customization" a pay-only thing, but should have integrated it into the game as rewards. They should have replaced "supercruise" by a more integrated mechanic for quick travel. They should have given the game more variety, by actually allowing fluctuating prices etc.
im just glad one of the big Elite-Tubers mentioned the console abandoment...i mean, im no game dev, but with how much they're pumping out, good or bad, youd assume consoles would have some news. but no, even the API extension is gone (at least on INARA)
If VR support comes back , I will come back and even spend a little if needed.
Elite is great. I don't have much of a problem with the space legs thing as it's not a big draw for me anyway more of a little bonus. I am keen to see what they do with power play as I've never interacted with it and maybe it would open up something new for me. The biggest thing that stops me playing elite is the engineering grind. I love to get a ship and customise it for a purpose, but an hour after I started I couldn't be bothered.
So true, the same thing happened with star citizen. Incompetence got in the way and we are 10 years in and nowhere close to release.
Preach, brother yamiks! Thargoid could have been its own title, more arcad-y and brought in more cash for people who want that gameplay, which could have been spend on shoring up ED
There are plenty of problems with the game, but if you're looking for an immersive space game that can draw you in and surround you with ..space and stuff.. it's still easily the best-in-genre, and you haven't officially jaded yourself, it's still worth it. As worth it as it's ever been at least. Certainly, for a new player, the state of the game is better than ever. It's a solid experience, at least - and more newbie-friendly than it used to be, that's for sure. I'm a member of the "had to learn to land manually" club.
That isn't to say I don't think the other big space games don't have their own reason and specialties.. I like ED, I like NMS, and I like X4 - I'm glad I don't have to choose just one.
After a few hundred hours and billions of credits, plus most but not all engineering done; I just come back in for a day or two every year or so to see what's new. The Thargoid conflict was interesting for awhile, but after killing hundreds of them in base defense; rescuing refugees by the thousands; and providing thousands of tons of emergency supplies, it gets old like everything else in-game. Nothing related to the titans themselves caught my interest since there was so little to do there for so long with "minimal consequences' to the conflict outcome! Including what was just released today for some group combat on the Titan itself. With such a solid base game, (Better than almost all other space games for ship control/ship combat/mining/shipping/passenger transport/exploration/planet landing mechanics; but sadly not on atmospheric planets which was a huge miss-step among many) it's a shame they squandered its long term potential. We needed reasons to come back, (Not just capitol ship maintenance costs, LOL) like every 6 months to add some detailed story arc related to the factions that had you chasing a mystery around the bubble or farther out in the black; with tangible rewards like special gear or a special ship as an end reward. Or something more like Eve where player organizations could carve out a foothold in a certain regions on the edge of the bubble. As an explorer, the dev's could of created numerous large trigger zones so as you go out in the black and run into a zone: an alien race region/weird signal is detected/or finding a lost/stranded expedition and a series of missions commences from that. Galnet messages could be received of the discoveries so other players could experience the same content. So much potential, wasted away year after empty year! The original passionate and creative dev's that made such a great base game literally handed the reigns over to a bunch of lazy corporate employees with no creative abilities or drive whatsoever!
Have you heard of outer wilds that's a great exploring game but it's a 1 time experience
Thanks, I have heard of it. It is on my to-do gaming list some time; appreciate the recommendation.@@BLACKICEXlV
I have had the game for months now. Got it free on Epic. I am just watching this to see if it is worth installing and sinking hours into. Thanks for the update!
I just ported my console profile over to PC, best thing I’ve done in a while, the game is still one of the best in its genre in my opinion. I’ve been on console since 2015, on PC now it’s like a new game to me.
Well, after sitting in a corner of my Steam list and collecting dust for I don't even know how long, I finally decided to give this thing a go a few days ago, and... yeah... 10 mins later I was Googling and Youtubing to figure out how to even operate the damn thing. Ran into your beginner's guide and had a a lot of good laughs. Sounds to me like this game and its developers are to you what Skyrim and Fallout 4 and Bethesta are to me. I'm still very new so I have yet to discover a lot of the issues that a lot of people have been pointing out, but decided to give it a shot while being aware of them. It's nowhere near Eve, but it does have a few things going for it.
Elite grind isn't bad if you don't min max several ships at once.
best thing in this game i experienced was when i was total newb and ran out of fuel without a fuel scoop.
i alt tabbed and searched what to do when you run out of fuel... basically i ran into fuel rats website.
basically group of people that offer rescues to out of fuel people that get stranded.
it was very professional service and it was free for some reason.
i dont know if they are always free...
but i was amazed with it and it was what made me continue play it.
Frontier should realize that ED is what made them and breathe new life into it. They already have a solid foundation and a complete overhaul would be more welcome and easier for them then a sequel ever would be.
Still fun after 500 hours. Half in pancake (collecting materials not need VR), half in VR (Thargoids battles and Titan core crack in VR is best). I still hope devs add vr on foot.
You need to cover Spaceship Simulator... It's coming!
9:15 -- RE: ED being Immersive, "... It Truly Is..."; Well, I'll be magnanimous and grant you, it can be immersive, but the "feeling I'm really there" is an illusion no different than going to a movie theater. That is to say, because the players can *SUSPEND THEIR DISBELIEF* it is immersive, *But* once that suspension of disbelief stops, pal, that's the end of the immersion too. For starters, I cannot imagine that what I'm flying in ED is a Ship any longer, because I know the cockpit is actually a HUD and my "spaceship" is actually just fighting in a FPS, without any ground to walk or bunny hop over. In other words, ED is no better than Descent, at the end of the day, especially if the VR goes from excellent to busted / removed.
Whoever readint this, yes Elite Is worth playing in 2024
I know this was a month ago, but I’ve gotta be honest… I’m glad I got it for free so many years ago from the Epic store (I think 3-4 years ago). I’ve spent like… 150 hours in it and just recently just redownloaded and completely restarted.
Damn, I wish you had more influence! I'm one of those old players that came back, I got billions of credits, so aside from the grind to sup up my suit, there isn't really any game play left.
As of the new dev stream today Elite is getting a price drop, 21.99 pounds for a pack with the base game and Odyssey. Might make picking the game up for the first time more appealing
Thank you for making this, just got my new system and haven't played since early 2022.
I wonder what would come of handing Elite’s codebase to another company in the future, even though I imagine that’s extremely implausible. I’d love to see what another company can create with Elite’s amazing foundation, considering Frontier as a company is unfortunately looking like a three-legged stool right now.
Every month I get the craving to dust off my HOTAS and take one of my babies for a spin. But then I think about what I would do aside from hunting in haz-rez sites and be bored after 15 minutes, so the dust collects
Exactly how I feel. I've used my HOTAS on every other flight sim _except_ Elite, specifically because I just can't be arsed to boot that game up again. Why bother?
I think they shot themselves in the foot by adding FPS content. They should have just expanded on the ship combat by progressing towards EVE(larger scale). If they gave you the ability to own larger ships, which could have smaller AI ships slaved to them, they could have expanded the scope of battles. Doing so, all of these alien encounters could have been massive and immersive fleet battles instead of the boring DPS check that they are now. That way, you would have something to grind towards. Eventually, they could have expanded it to have ownable PVP territories, the same way EVE does.
At this point, I don't expect this game to outcompete Star Citizen. If they focused on one thing and made it really good, they might have been able to.
The FPS content coulda been alright, but I find myself giving way more of a fuck about the potential of spacelegs for exploration and immersion. Imagine if there were more alien structures and even wrecked human exploration ships randomly scattered throughout space, and you could collect interesting things from them and display them throughout your ship.
i just recently came back to do a little space trucking. I was midway through a trip to Colonia so now I'm there. When I got there, non-stop 50 mill bertrandite missions. I thought "hell yeah thats why I was coming back out here" but then the missions either dried up or someone is taking all of them.
I love elite so much and i hope its getting more love from a devs perspective
The fact that ED requires it to be a second job really turned me off it.
I got it for the VR experience (or really, I got VR specifically to try it in Elite) but dropped it cold over the simultaneous introduction of space legs and FDev's bafflingly poor handling of the """slaver""" controversy.
Oddly satisfied that I left a sinking ship.
I follow the financial markets as part of what I do and I've seen this before. First they lay off as many staff as possible to cut costs and increase what little profit margin they have. Now they're adding these 'new' features which are low effort leftovers which they can enable with the few developers they have left. Why? It's one of the last games they have with any kind of reliable player base. All this to eek out the last bit of profit to make the company more attractive to potential buyers. I would bet you'll see the remaining assets of Frontier up for sale within a couple of years.
I just want a Clipper mk2 :3 back into the beautiful asteroid fields I shall go!
10:10 - nailed it
Thanks, this answered most of my questions, looking back from the odyssey launch. Except, does Odyssey planet tech still look like a stack of books under a blanket?
Also I assume that not mentioning fixing multi-crew means it still isnt viable.
Just the ability to walk inside the ships and do relevant stuff there would improve the game so much.
I'm coming back to ED if they implement base building, and I'm bringing my friends in too if they make it less grindy hehe
Still love this dead horse lol
smack!
Its a great game, Im still enjoying playing it, smashing thargs, watching a titan get obliterated, its all good. As you say, you can just fly around and pew, mine, truck, you dont need to grind the engineering to play.
Balanced Video, Yamiks, They should really have Stuck to ships as they were very very good at this, apart from the engineering Grind, but ships and ship fighting was far better than SC and I play that a lot...roughly 16500hrs in Elite over the years. I personally gave up 3 years ago. I believe it was the Carrier (cost/time) update that ruined it for me.
The only 'hard' thing about carriers now, is the initial 5 billion cost. Running costs are so easy to get these days that they are literally insignificant now. I can get my weekly upkeep simply by doing just one high intensity on-foot conflict zone, and have cash to spare. Granted, my carrier only has rearm/refuel/repair installed, so a weekly cost of 9.5 million, but a 20 minute CZ easily gets me that, and about 100-120 Arx at the same time. Four of them will easily cap my weekly Arx, and net me anywhere between 40-60 million, all in less than a couple of hours.
Ever since the Great Disjunction (We will live Forever...in Legacy) left me behind...
... apparently 21st century retailers don't accept the Warm Fuzzys i get paid in as Valid Curreny...
... I've had issues with maintaining my persona. Especially given that BGS manipulation was the thing that actually hooked me.
(I singlehandedly spread my Best Faction Friend to 20 systems and even negotiated it's survival when the Blue Wings of everyone's favorite Mystic Anime Space Princess swept through my neighborhood)
The recent announcement of new ships is Even Worse. Why?
I deliberately chose to be a 34th century SnakeShip Salesman & Not a 21st century SnakeCoin Salesman for a reason (yes i could have made a killing fleecing rubes with Brooklyn Bridge NFTs and such), that being that much like the Sleek Brick-like Styling of the Keelback i come equipped with Morals and a soul 😇.
The thought that my Insane Ravings might cause some poor kid to spend Real World money on a (poorly optimized apparently) PTW ShipFriend fills me with dread.
I will probably drop my "So long & thanks for all the Fish" post this Kraitsmas season for those Poor Unfortunate Souls who seem to like me. I owe them that much for sure.
Have Fun&Post Dangerous
-Lakon Marketing Division, Keelback Office -'Only ship in the Galaxy to come equipped with a soul 😇'
What really got me to quit the game was the fact that when engaging with the BGS (minor faction systems and such) players that play solo mode can affect what you are doing, even against you, and there is nothing you can do about it. It was especially bad for me and my group of friends since we got our own minor faction to manage and were undermined by "solo" players. While things like this dont change our group wont be coming back to play, sadly.
I'm so tossed up on Elite. I love it and it's one of my favorite space games. Even though I've invested real money in Star Citizen, I still think Elite is the better "space Sim".
But I don't have a lot of time in it, maybe a couple of hundred hours, and engineering grind is killer for those busy with jobs and family.
I really want to come back but I feel like I may end up putting in time for nothing if they shut down in the next year or two.
Very fair summary. I liked it.
I stopped playing a couple of years ago out of boredom. I came back a month ago because I bought a pc that can more than handle VR (5600x 3070ti). Turns out it can't handle Elite Dangerous in VR so i'm gone again.
Do you try VR in Legacy game ?
3070ti cant handle it? damn. Maybe upgrade to 32gbs of system ram if you dont have?
@@iamatlantis132GB minimum for Elite in VR. It was almost 30 GB RAM last time I played. 3070Ti is held back by idiots that put 8GB of VRAM on it. That card should have came with 16. All 3070Ti models need recalled, and full refund. But, they will get away with that stupidity. As always
havent played elite in years but i never had any problems in VR with a 1080ti and 7700k
How do you do that? There is no option to choose a different beta in properties.@@semibiotic
Yamiks, PLEASE. I thought i kicked my ED habit for good...
Maybe they are trying to increase its apparent value before selling it off. Anyway, I'll keep riding it until it's over. Our squadron has actually gotten a few newbie players fairly recently.
The problem is that although I have a few bil and most ships (all that matter) and most ranks topped (not all, got bored before that) and thousands of hours, I would be a complete noob if I return I barely remember to fly, let alone the intricacies of the game.
I just jumped ship (!) to NMS, it's improved massively over the years. PS5 VR implementation is fantastic.
I have high hopes for the future of this long-running game series. I am completely enamored and obsessed with it and i guarantee to be playing it for a long time.
As a new player i have yet to experience "The Grind" but I'm glad i am sufficiently prepared for it. = -)
I completely agree with you but i gladly take the good with that bad.
Ever since the days of Freelancer have i awaiting a game like this and I'm definitely a life-long fan.
Great video man, keep on rockin' in the free stars! 👍😎👍
I'd check it out again but I'm a console player and I've no idea what's going on with the game outside of them abandoning console development. Didn't end up hearing about the PC transfer they were meant to be doing.
The yamiks knows a lot about horses. Love this guy
I started on PS4 last week. Def worth it. Took a sec to figure some shit out but yeah it’s sick.