We have been searching for our 1st TT for about 9 months now. Trade show coming up in the midwest - be nice to see everything my 1/2 ton can tow in 1 spot!. hopefully can make our decision soon and hit the road early spring!. Josh's reviews are extremely helpful and the 22MLS is really nice. do you know if it has a curtain by the bedroom or option for 1 ?
I come for the amazing RV showcases, I stay for the Short Circuit references! 😂 I can't tell you how many times to this day I'll still randomly say "your momma was a snowblower!" 😂😂😂 This is an AWESOME couple's camper. I don't care for having the entrance right next to the bed and I personally prefer a true couch instead of theater seats, but it really feels like nitpicking when they've done such a great job on 98% of it. 👍😍
We love and use our 2023 22MLSWE (Western edition) often, from weekend trips to 8-9 day multi-State outings. Nice that the front storage compartment was opened up and created more walk around bedroom space, but, ugh... another hot vent added under the awning area (limits seating area, and scares the dog when the heater starts up). The front window doesn't do anything for us, we prefer our solid front wall. I like the shoe cubby under the dinette, we really like our full length dinette drawers for storing kitchen appliances (looks like the shoe cubby and water heater shortened them now). The kitchen sink swap is throwing us, we like ours on the left so it's more usable in road mode (we can fit a standard 13 gallon kitchen trash can under our sink). I'm 6'4" and a 'relatively' fit 230 lbs and I'm comfortable in the bathroom and shower. Nice to see they kept all of the bathroom countertop space and cabinets. We like bath towel hooks, that bar looked pretty small for two full sized towels. The theater seats are surprisingly comfortable, and the tv is in a great spot... we like that it doesn't obstruct the window. Heating/cooling is very capable... our max hi/lo outdoor temps are 95 and 26, and no issues maintaining inside thermostat set temps. Nice to see the suspension upgrade... we installed the MORyde system with 1/2" shackles and wet bolts. Yes, your propane tanks shrunk! We have the 400 watt solar package, two lithium batteries (200 Ah total), and a 2K inverter, so running a coffee pot or hair dryer plugged in one of the labeled inverter outlets is really nice while boondocking. Double check your listed holding tank capacities... ours is 54 gallons fresh, but, 38 gallons each for gray and black, not 30 gallons that you show... unless confirmed they shrunk, too! Road mode is really fantastic... so many times we plan our stops knowing we have access to the bathroom, sink for washing hands, our lunch is kept cool in the fridge, and we have a comfortable dinette to relax for a bit to eat/review maps/etc. Nice review and glad to see this camper is still doing so well. I'll add that it's easy to tow on the road, and really maneuverable (get the rear back-up camera installed) in gas stations/grocery store parking lots/campgrounds/etc.. I'm towing ours with a 2023 Ford F-150 crewcab XLT 4WD shortbed with the 3.5L ecoboost, 10-speed auto, 3.55 gears, with an Equalizer hitch and Firestone airbags. Cheers! Pete in Arizona - KI7LIL
Iiiiiinteresting - looking at a story I wrote about this same rig last year and the price has gone DOWN by about $4,000! These RV companies are making better rigs and really managing pricing. That ABS alone is a fantastic feature. Great job, Keystone. 👍 👍
You do THE BEST tours of RV’s. All the details are covered. I love a dinette! We are looking for a new camper for next year’s camping season and this is definitely a new one we will check out!
This camper is a WINNER!! I agree i like table and chairs instead of bench seating. Maybe they could consider a bench on one side and chairs on the other side in that same space. which keeps the water under the right bench. just a thought. 😊
Josh out of so many of the ones that you have done in the past I really like this floor plan. Not only that but in road mode I like the idea that you can still move around without killing yourself to try to jump over stuff lol. And the way that they are sectioning off the plumbing and wiring is definitely a winner. The thought of having even a minor leak and having it damage so many components has always been a worry for me whenever it comes to choosing a camper. But this one is definitely one of my favorites when it comes to the half ton series of trucks to be used to tow it. Although my Tacoma wouldn’t tow it the halftime we plan on getting definitely would. So keep on rocking those RVs buddy. I’m gonna find the perfect one yet with your reviews Josh 😁
@kfh227 The reason I said this is that my wife gets up earlier than me to make her coffee, so a curtain gives me a little break from this and keeps out the extra light.
Agreed. I often stay up later than my wife, so being able close off the bed area is important for us. It’s almost a deal breaker for us, but the right combination of “just love it” features could over ride the lack of bedroom privacy
When you showed the dining table and the bed in travel mode I said Wow ! Plus, the suspension and ABS package. Greatly needed for our bad roads in Quebec . I would buy it.
Thanks for the great video. I love the drawers in the bedroom since we need a place to put socks and underwear. And the suspension upgrade is very nice. I’m debating with myself we should have a private bedroom like 25MLE or 25RDS. But 22MLS will be my choice if we decided not to need a private bedroom. Two things I’ve recently noticed is that many travel trailer’s dining area do not have an electric outlet and that many sofa areas do not have USB plug-in ports (some have only wireless charger which is not useful if you want to use the phone while charging). I’m planning to use the dinette as a workstation which need an electric outlet for a laptop and a monitor and checking SNS with my phone sitting on couch rather than watching TV. Running long extension cords is not pretty. I hope Cougar will add an electric outlet at dining areas and USB plug-in charging ports if there isn’t one there yet.
Queen bed please, Western edition to get the larger holding tanks, bar on the left with Fireplace and two stools, 3000 watt inverter with extra solar panels and multiple lithium batteries, fold down seat in the shower, swivel table between the recliners.love the power jacks,
From an owner of a Keystone Cougar 26BHSW, BEWARE of the keystone claims of attention to detail and high quality workmanship etc blah blah blah. I've been in my unit since mid July 2024. It's an okay unit until it rains,gets cold then a lot of failures, no quality or attention to details become grossly apparent. For $60k cdn.its a blatant rip off.
I laughed because right before you asked, I said, "I hate cleaning the track on a slide shower door." People think the retractable doors are flimsy, but that seems to be inaccurate. My friends with Airstreams love them. Overall, I love this camper!
"Stephanie,... No disassemble!!! Johnny 5. is... alive!" (from the great movie "Short Circuit") Good to know I'm not the only one who appreciated this movie! I forget the actress who played Stephanie, but she was pretty hot!
I LOVE a traditional dinette with storage under the benches! And, I love it when behind one side there is a plain wall so that I can put up a picture or poster behind me. I do content creation and I work in the dinette. My partner prefers a free standing table and chairs, I hate the lost storage benches. But I can keep him happy with theater seating. This would work well for us. The only thing I worry about with this layout in every brand is the toilet space. Also, we prefer a true queen bed. Those few inches of storage are more important to us on the sides. And, we actually like each other, so we don’t need a giant bed! 😂
Thanks Josh. Watched you 2 yrs. Just retired as a couple. Trying to do 2 to 3 trips a year at 2 to 3 months each trip, so pretty much full timing it. Torn between this and the mini lite. Is there an outdoor shower? Can you custom order it? I like it by the steps. No kids, no pets but beach life it would pay off big.
This was my #2 model when we decided on a MicroLite. I do love the upgrades, particularly the slide that can be sat on. And Road Mode is my favorite feature of your reviews! Thank you for showing. Earlier models had the sink on the left which I liked because it made the two counters adjacent, but I appreciate you showing why they moved it and it makes sense. Push and Pull! With everything else they added, I'm surprised they didn't add an inverter stock. Finally, I don't understand the inner dock. It breaks up the pass through storage and I would rather it be on the side. Maybe just me.... 😄
Closest thing to what I'd want. Probably works but I don't know why no one makes a slightly larger table for the breakfast nook and do chairs on one side and both on the other. It would provide a large work surface for remote work (My use case) and hte chair could get tucked under the table (out of the way) for people to walk by (through the entrance) when not in use.
We are planning on purchasing a camper by next spring and I feel in love with this camper it has everything I’ve been looking for in a camper thanks for this amazing video josh!
Love this floor plan. Love the big kitchen. The bed is good. Love the open living area. The door side windows are ok. Love the storage around the bed its great. Love the colors. Don't like the bathroom right by the kitchen. Love the king bed. This is one of my favorite floor plans for 2025. Thank you!
I agree this is my favorite for couples. I am very impressed with making the left side of the bed walkable around the bed. I love the new changes definitely #1 ❤️
We ordered one in July and a 2025 is what came in. Like the sidewall changes and interior drawers. Disappointed the In Command was gone as we wanted to monitor Temps and AC for our pup. Also disappointed that the propane tanks were changed to 20s as the on demand uses more propane compared to a 6 gallon electric/propane heater. Also there is not an easy way to do a fresh water fill if you’re using water jugs. Ours has a different speaker system which is Bluetooth only with no radio or DVD😢. Currently we can’t use the speakers with the TV.
Josh, I love all the knowledge you provide; especially for first timers. Being that we are first timers I don’t want to jump into something too large and would like to tow it with our F-150. I’ve seen several of your 1/2 ton towable videos, but it would save a lot of time surfing through the thousands of videos if they were consolidated into a 1/2 ton towable playlist. I’m not sure how labor intensive that would be for you, but it would definitely be appreciated.
Great couples unit. Love the use of composites. Would definitely want the fireplace and hutch thingy vs. the dinette. Would rather have the squeegee shower screen.
Agree on all of the comments about the privacy curtain for the sleeping area. But also would like to see a 12v A/C option with upgraded battery solution. And auto-leveling. Otherwise - LOVE IT.
They got rid of the privacy curtains. I would like to see them come back. I go to bead earlier than my wife. I hope they decide to drop the tv a little bit or tilt it down some. I like the control panel better. A slide tray in the storage area would be nice. Thanks Josh for the video. Happy thanksgiving.
Composite is the future of the RV industry. More manufacturers will be adopting this approach and I think we’ll see a majority saturation in the next 10 years.
I really like that Cougar focused on fixing the details on this model. The bed is amazing, I love the new slide mechanics that allow usage when retracted and I love the trash can space. Looks really nice.
Could you explain the changes to the slide system. It is still a cable system which is my last choice. I have GD 22mle which is the perfect Floorplan for us like this trailer. I would trade quickly if I could find this Floorplan with rack and pinion suspension without going bigger. I don't want to tow more than 5300 to 5500 dry weight. Love this fp.
Road MODE, FTW! Absolutely love the details and why/how frequent features are present. Also, the SPECs layout is really, really nice visually and timed great. Stick with that change!
Love this..when I see other option I will decide because I need table/chairs with the hip issue... unless what they have will work. This is awesome otherwise!!! 😊
I love this model. I definitely need a curtain for the bedroom as others already mentioned. And I got a minor improvement suggestion that is to swap the location of the ladder and spare tire so that the kitchen window will have a non-obstructed view.
That is a very well thought out rv. I would go for the swap instead of the dinette. I still can’t get behind having a windscreen on a trailer, but it wouldn’t prevent me from buying the unit.
There are a few builders who don't offer the windshield like ► Imagine 22MLE ruclips.net/video/dg6JSMFKaBw/видео.html ► Ember 22MLQ ruclips.net/video/w0EKi0dshmU/видео.html ► Jay Flight 225MLS ruclips.net/video/sgXqYK2puCU/видео.html But... Cougar is the only one with a dinette swap
This 2025 Keystone Cougar TT would be perfect for me if the bed is a true queen so that I get more storage space. Thanks for all the 411, Josh! Keep up the great work!
I love this camper! Love the dinette; love the kitchen ❤; love the king bed; love the recliners. Two things I would like to see: * More storage. I would give up some kitchen cabinet space for a storage closet for blankets, clothes, etc. * small patio or rack on back to haul bikes, paddleboard, etc.
I should have mentioned, we currently have a NOBO 19.2 couples camper and we love it. But we want a non-Murphy bed, a dinette, lounge chairs, and more roomy kitchen - this does all that! But we’ve rarely found other campers that have the storage of a NOBO 19.2. It’s hard to beat.
I have heard so many people moving AWAY from murphy beds this year. It's interesting the shift May I ask what motivates you to prefer a fixed bed so I can better understand?
I have to say, I am so impressed with this camper. I love the layout. I love the fact they put drawers under the table and under the bed. I have a Montana 3793RD and just recently I purchased a Forest River Wildwood FSX (because a girl can not have too many campers and I needed something smaller than my fifth wheel, that I can tow on my girls trips that I do).Any way I have great storage in my Montana and drawers aren't really necessary but in the Wildwood FSX...Dear God... there is so little storage and what it does have is almost impossible to get to. It really is not worth the hassle to use them.
@@JoshtheRVNerd lol I still have my Montana I just am scared to pull something that big... I just have started pulling a trailer in the last year. My husband always drove before.
Love this common floorplan. Like to have larger black & gray tanks. Also a bedroom privacy curtain should be standard. My preference is folding entry steps outside the unit.
This model is still on the top of my list. Every year they’re making it a little bit better.👍 The few things I would like to see changed are… 1. High volume ceiling vent fans in both vents. At least as a factory option. 2. Lose the skylight in the shower since it already has good height and just put a nice bright flat LED panel in there with good lighting. This would eliminate a potential leak point not to mention a thermal rat hole. 3. As an option, I would like to see them match ember‘s largest solar option on the 201FBQ (my second choice). 1200 W of solar and two 270 amp hour lithium batteries. As to your shower door question, I have mixed feelings. Yes there’s always a chance for the glass door to break, especially if you forget to latch it down before traveling. But should it get water stained from high iron content or high mineral content water, I think you can use a little harsher cleaners on the glass. Then you can the plastic Shower curtain that rolls up. Thanks for all the hard work you put into these Josh and thank you new editor for me while you’re at it.
A Johnny 5 reference in a 2024 RV video? You've done it again Josh, combined my favorite RV Cougar makes with one of my favorite movies. Well played....
Appreciate the work you put in on the videos, Josh! A LOT to really like on this layout. Front compartment and bed walking space update is a gold star 🌟 for me!
when over a window, i like the high tv just as it is, that way i can see out both at same time.. not have tv blocking it like a drop down or televator.
Great couples travel trailer from the door back. We camp for 3 months in the winter in our 29 foot couples camper. You really need a private bedroom. Curtains would be OK, but a bedroom with a door makes it easy for people that don't always go to bed or wake up at the same time. The without a door is a deal killer.
Try this - same layout but with privacy doors for the bed: ruclips.net/video/zZGp-EpcJ8w/видео.html Or try this: ruclips.net/video/loy8nKOOj_Q/видео.html Slightly longer cougar with a fully private bed & expanded living but still under 30ft
I'm known as someone that will say leave its ashes at Burning Man for the slightest of flaws. This.. This is something you pull up to the peraly gates 🍻 🙇♂️
Loved Loved Loved our Cougar 22 MLS, but quit towing to a small motorhome. Loved the dinette! Great for playing games with the grandkid. People need to know the insulation in this is fantastic! Great updates! Kind of makes me rethink towing. I used magnetic vent covers on the floor when we didn't need the vents. Those crazy screw heads! Ha ha That Dog bark got me. 😂 Thanks Josh!
Sweet! A very nice unit. I didn't see anything that I would want to change. It's very towable, very good-looking. Maybe a dining bar with a tootsie toaster, but what this has works well. I totally agree with you, Josh. This is doing it right.
I think that RV reviewers such as yourself, as well as upcoming brands such as Alliance, are pushing the bar and we're getting better RVs across the board. Pushing manufacturers out of their comfort zone will continue to improve our products and make them better companies. Kudos to Keystone for continuing to listen.
Another excellent video, Josh! This is a great couples camper. We currently have a Micro Minnie 2108DS and would gladly trade that in on this trailer, but we're likely going full time when I retire with a DRV 5th wheel.
Josh!!! You hit a home run with this travel trailer! LOVE the kitchen with the great counter space , all the drawers, the large fridge, BUT NO drawers in the bathroom 😢 Also the bedroom and the storage is much better with the drawers. The only thing I don't like is why no curtains for in front of the bed. Like the fact that you can move around so we'll when the slide is closed, nice that it has azdel type material on all the walls. Very nice and how Much?
I have a 2022 model and I have to say the bigger passthrough and the no toe smasher slide is a huge winner. Road Armor right off the showroom floor is massive too! I still believe this model needs two air conditioners because in the South, the blazing heat with sun beating down, it can get toasty inside. IMO, 440 watts of solar with an inverter is the way to go because when boondocking, there MUST BE hot coffee in the morning.
I love everything about this… but I noticed you didn’t (or haven’t yet, still watching) mention the 4 seasons or hot/cold ratings. Are there not-Azdel composite walls also have the same insulation (R7?) properties? Edit: I agree that 20 lb. Propane tanks are readily available, but the cost per pound/gal. of the propane is more expensive. Also, I like that they are continuing to use white AC/vent covers. Sounds silly but if you’re in Texas, that makes a difference!
I hate the bed right when you walk in the door...if they could move the dinette down close to the bed so the door could be on the other side of the dinette on the end where the bathroom and kitchen is that would be PERFECT❣️❣️❣️
My wife and I like everything cougar did with floorplan. We would love to see cougar continue to do what they did here on this floorplan with the rest of the travel trailer lineup and the half ton fifth wheels. The only thing missing on this floorplan is maybe a privacy curtain between the bed and the rest of the trailer.
We are also looking at the 22MLS as our next rig and have been doing a ton of research on this unit. This unit actually has the older problematic Accu-Slide system not the Exact-Slide System as you described in the video. As there was some conflicting info on the 22MLS Facebook page I reached out to Keystone and received this answer, "Hello Glendon, The Cougar 22MLS uses the Norco G4 Accu-slide system". Carmen Westlake KEY CONNECT PRODUCT SPECIALIST | KEYSTONE RV COMPANY. Needless to say I was pretty excited when you said Exact-Slide, but with this new knowledge we will be looking at other options.
They finally got rid of the carpet and added drawers to the bedroom area! Those were two of the things that I really hated about the Cougar version of this model. Too bad they didn't do it sooner. I like the dinette table over the pedestal we have in our GD 22MLE. This should be easier to convert to a bed and not matter the quality of the pedestal shouldn't have that pedestal wobble. The big pass-through storage doors are a good improvement. They would allow us to store our Weber Q grill without having to remove the lid first. I'll stop here but they did a great job on the update. As to Johnny 5 I still think the 3 stooges scene is one of the funniest in the movie.
Great video content 👍. Love the layout including the dinette. Love the bed layout. But can not get past all the white..just to much. Love to see your small travel trailer videos. Thanks again.
Thanks Josh for a great video. I am very excited about the hutch and fireplace option. Do you know when they might have one for you to video? Also what are your personal thoughts on the exact cable slide? I have seen videos on the old slide system and the issues scared me. Thanks again for all you do!!! Steven
As ALWAYS... GREAT VIDEO!!! I would like to see a higher cargo allowance. 1300+ lb.s does not allow for much "stuff" after considering your needs of water, LP, food, clothing, etc.. Other than that... it might be the best so far. Thanks Josh!!!
For the bathroom, I think the retractable door is a much better bet. You don't have to worry about glass breakage and it's squeegees itself clean when you close it
A small camper like this would be the ideal trial spot for a company to implement the sofa that transforms into a bunkbed. It takes up less room than a fold out sleeper and would allow to bring 2 small children along. Just food for thought
So, I like the dinette with the chairs. It always annoyed me to not see that as an option in some models. But now knowing that I'm in the 2% of buyers, I don't blame them at all. Not even mad. I totally get it. Thanks for that tidbit of info!
They always offered table/chairs before which I preferred but I get why they made the changes and why it's not offered anymore I actually think if more dealers stocked it with table/chairs, then it would've remained a popular option
I just boughta 2024 22MLS, I should not have watched this. The location of the hot water heater is a big deal, having a on demand hot water heater and a long run quite a bit of water ends up in the gray tank. I am going to try and see and I can get a shower miser installed. I am jealous of the drawers under the bed and dinnette.
Hey Josh, might want to add “Cougar” to the stock search link… it turns up a ton of non cougar units right now. And I’m 100% with you in camp Towel Bar!
For us as senior citizens they fail in 3 areas. 1) The entry stairs . First step is to tall. Think bad knees and hips. They need to think ADA compliant for elderly couples. 2) the front storage intrudes to much into the bedroom making it hard to make the bed. 3) There needs to be a table and chair option no questions asked. Of course the furnace would need to be relocated. Probably easy to do. Just my opinion and some are deal killers.
A number of neat features, like the isolated docking cubby, but not a fan of the floorplan. 1st, get the poop station away from the food prep station. 2nd, needs a wall separating the bed from the living area. 3. I'd want a slide with the dinette and sofa together and the entertainment across from them so everyone can watch the game. 4. As I said, sofa, or start putting the the cup holders in the outside arm so the "couples" can sit without the divider and 5. on the subject of couples, a 60 x 80 queen with more hanging locker space would work better - at least in our world. All that said, really appreciate the show and tell videos, Josh.
@@JoshtheRVNerd thanks for your attentiveness to your followers. I've usually liked the interiors of the Cougar line. I had seen (and liked) your review on the 25 and the layout is a big improvement over the 22. It still has the seating on opposite sides so only the theater seats get to watch TV. Also, I'm in my mid-60s and still don't get the need for a king mattress vs. a little more hanging locker and drawer space. I don't mind sleeping close to my wife, and she likes clothes for all occasions.😉 As Milton seems aimed straight for our FL area, the idea of having our northern home being our basecamp and trailering over the winter is gaining appeal. As always, thank you for your content.
My Cougar 24SABWE with propane (prob not full), 2 batteries, and a full pass thru is around 750-800lbs tongue weight depending on factors. Weight in the rear, like 3 bikes on the hitch, and take some off the front for example. This floor plan is awesome. I'd consider this if it was out when I got our 24SABWE. I love the kitchen, that alone would make me consider this over what we have. But I also really love our bedroom. We can close the doors and just heat that area at night if needed with a small 300 watt heater in the PacNW.
Also I swapped our stock suspension with a Road Armor I won't ever have an RV without one now. It is that big of a difference. And yah Josh, they probably were 30 lbs, that is what ours is. I kind of like it because I use it for our fire pit as well.
When our teenage High school kids are out of the nest, this is the camper that I want for my wife and I. I think it is the perfect size for state park hopping. I would like to see laminate countertops come back for the “budget line” of campers. Our first 2010 Forest River Serria had them. Our new GD 27BH has these thermafoil tops and I’m just not a fan.
Thermofoil and laminate counters are the same thing btw. They just handle their edges differently The problem isn't thermofoil. It's the industry's drive to build everything for less money which means they're using a worse glue
@ I have to respectfully disagree with you on this one. Thermafoil and laminate like Formica are two different things. Thermafoil is a thin plastic sheet that is heated and then vacuumed formed over the mdf substrate. Laminate such as Formica is a much thicker sheet of material that is applied with contact adhesive to the substrate and the back of the laminate then applied, rolled out, and trimmed with a trim router. The laminate is much less sensitive to heat and impact damage than the thermafoil. You just can’t get the fancy ogee style edge with the laminate. But yes these manufacturers are trying to build them as cheap as possible, and not necessarily cheap as in poor quality just not ideal materials is certain areas. This is also to make these units as lightweight as they can also. It’s all about the bottom line which i understand from a business standpoint. I can only compare the last camper I had for almost 14 years to this new one I have had for about 7 months. Anyway thanks for taking the time to respond. I have been watching your channel for years. I think back since around 2012 or so. Always enjoy your videos. Hope you and your family have a nice thanksgiving.
I like the build aspects, but I prefer the bedroom walled off because I like to stay up late and wife goes to bed early, also that gives us two zones to watch different stuff on the tube with out bothering the other.
We took 5 years to make a decision on a TT, almost purchased a Mini-Lite until we went inside the 22MLS. Signed the papers that day. Thanks Uncle Josh
nice pick!
@michellebreau1124 we took about 10 yrs then went with a Heartland Mallard IDM223RK which it turned out is too small
We have been searching for our 1st TT for about 9 months now. Trade show coming up in the midwest - be nice to see everything my 1/2 ton can tow in 1 spot!. hopefully can make our decision soon and hit the road early spring!. Josh's reviews are extremely helpful and the 22MLS is really nice. do you know if it has a curtain by the bedroom or option for 1 ?
@@marcm8209 I have a 2023 and mine came with the privacy curtain. We removed the curtain but left the track. I am not sure about the 2025 model.
I come for the amazing RV showcases, I stay for the Short Circuit references! 😂
I can't tell you how many times to this day I'll still randomly say "your momma was a snowblower!" 😂😂😂
This is an AWESOME couple's camper. I don't care for having the entrance right next to the bed and I personally prefer a true couch instead of theater seats, but it really feels like nitpicking when they've done such a great job on 98% of it. 👍😍
It's really the references that make the video I think lol :)
We love and use our 2023 22MLSWE (Western edition) often, from weekend trips to 8-9 day multi-State outings. Nice that the front storage compartment was opened up and created more walk around bedroom space, but, ugh... another hot vent added under the awning area (limits seating area, and scares the dog when the heater starts up). The front window doesn't do anything for us, we prefer our solid front wall. I like the shoe cubby under the dinette, we really like our full length dinette drawers for storing kitchen appliances (looks like the shoe cubby and water heater shortened them now). The kitchen sink swap is throwing us, we like ours on the left so it's more usable in road mode (we can fit a standard 13 gallon kitchen trash can under our sink). I'm 6'4" and a 'relatively' fit 230 lbs and I'm comfortable in the bathroom and shower. Nice to see they kept all of the bathroom countertop space and cabinets. We like bath towel hooks, that bar looked pretty small for two full sized towels. The theater seats are surprisingly comfortable, and the tv is in a great spot... we like that it doesn't obstruct the window. Heating/cooling is very capable... our max hi/lo outdoor temps are 95 and 26, and no issues maintaining inside thermostat set temps. Nice to see the suspension upgrade... we installed the MORyde system with 1/2" shackles and wet bolts. Yes, your propane tanks shrunk! We have the 400 watt solar package, two lithium batteries (200 Ah total), and a 2K inverter, so running a coffee pot or hair dryer plugged in one of the labeled inverter outlets is really nice while boondocking. Double check your listed holding tank capacities... ours is 54 gallons fresh, but, 38 gallons each for gray and black, not 30 gallons that you show... unless confirmed they shrunk, too! Road mode is really fantastic... so many times we plan our stops knowing we have access to the bathroom, sink for washing hands, our lunch is kept cool in the fridge, and we have a comfortable dinette to relax for a bit to eat/review maps/etc. Nice review and glad to see this camper is still doing so well. I'll add that it's easy to tow on the road, and really maneuverable (get the rear back-up camera installed) in gas stations/grocery store parking lots/campgrounds/etc.. I'm towing ours with a 2023 Ford F-150 crewcab XLT 4WD shortbed with the 3.5L ecoboost, 10-speed auto, 3.55 gears, with an Equalizer hitch and Firestone airbags. Cheers! Pete in Arizona - KI7LIL
Love the input! TY Pete!
Iiiiiinteresting - looking at a story I wrote about this same rig last year and the price has gone DOWN by about $4,000! These RV companies are making better rigs and really managing pricing. That ABS alone is a fantastic feature. Great job, Keystone. 👍 👍
I'll have to text you some extra insights on that
You do THE BEST tours of RV’s. All the details are covered.
I love a dinette! We are looking for a new camper for next year’s camping season and this is definitely a new one we will check out!
Thanks, I’m glad you like it!
This camper is a WINNER!! I agree i like table and chairs instead of bench seating. Maybe they could consider a bench on one side and chairs on the other side in that same space. which keeps the water under the right bench. just a thought. 😊
Get rid of the slide and I am in!
Josh out of so many of the ones that you have done in the past I really like this floor plan. Not only that but in road mode I like the idea that you can still move around without killing yourself to try to jump over stuff lol. And the way that they are sectioning off the plumbing and wiring is definitely a winner. The thought of having even a minor leak and having it damage so many components has always been a worry for me whenever it comes to choosing a camper. But this one is definitely one of my favorites when it comes to the half ton series of trucks to be used to tow it. Although my Tacoma wouldn’t tow it the halftime we plan on getting definitely would. So keep on rocking those RVs buddy. I’m gonna find the perfect one yet with your reviews Josh 😁
yeah it's nice not having to slide thru the like the dukes of hazard jumping over the hood of their car
Wow, I really love this trailer! Thanks again for including road mode.
You bet
Love the dinette! Great for card games with another couple
I LOVE this model! We appreciate both a couch & dinette, we like the open floor plan, the windows are great and the bathroom is not tiny.
absolutely one of my favorites
Thanks for the Heng's fan suggestion.
I installed one in my bathroom last summer 😊and it works great.
202rble surveyor
Love it!
Thanks Josh 😁
Good stuff! Glad it worked out
I’m always open to getting a quick review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review in return for the hand btw!
Max the roof with solar panels only. Drop the cables inside and hook up your own portable power station.
Thank you Josh!
The one thing they seem to have missed is a privacy curtain for the bed
Not usure it's needed. Not a bunk house and the couch isn't a sleeper sofa. Who else is going to be in their other than a couple?
@@kfh227 well, there are windows. You'd have to pull all the shades.
@kfh227 The reason I said this is that my wife gets up earlier than me to make her coffee, so a curtain gives me a little break from this and keeps out the extra light.
Correct, need private bedroom even with just a couple, don’t always eat, sleep, nap, change clothes etc, etc, etc. at the same time/schedule.
Agreed. I often stay up later than my wife, so being able close off the bed area is important for us. It’s almost a deal breaker for us, but the right combination of “just love it” features could over ride the lack of bedroom privacy
Love this - they did a fantastic job with this one!
Thanks for the Great Tour!! ❤👍
You bet!
When you showed the dining table and the bed in travel mode I said Wow ! Plus, the suspension and ABS package. Greatly needed for our bad roads in Quebec .
I would buy it.
Awesome! TY for tuning in :)
I think this is just what I'm looking for. Thank you.
Great choice!
Thanks for the great video.
I love the drawers in the bedroom since we need a place to put socks and underwear.
And the suspension upgrade is very nice.
I’m debating with myself we should have a private bedroom like 25MLE or 25RDS. But 22MLS will be my choice if we decided not to need a private bedroom.
Two things I’ve recently noticed is that many travel trailer’s dining area do not have an electric outlet and that many sofa areas do not have USB plug-in ports (some have only wireless charger which is not useful if you want to use the phone while charging).
I’m planning to use the dinette as a workstation which need an electric outlet for a laptop and a monitor and checking SNS with my phone sitting on couch rather than watching TV. Running long extension cords is not pretty.
I hope Cougar will add an electric outlet at dining areas and USB plug-in charging ports if there isn’t one there yet.
Really like the floor plan but those Accu-Slides are a deal breaker. Come on Keystone! You are so close. Thanks for another video Josh
Why a deal breaker? Sounds wonderful that you can sit on the couch when the slide is retracted.
At about 11:00, he says it's an Exact-slide, which (according to Jacob Rigor) has a lot less problems that the Accu-slide.
I'm sure they're just fine. Do you have any experience with them? You can replace them right? I'm sure they work well enough
@@juangallegos7178…. I don’t think you are supposed to set on any slide when retracted….
They told me at the factory that is was fine to sit on the couch with the slide retracted.
Queen bed please, Western edition to get the larger holding tanks, bar on the left with Fireplace and two stools, 3000 watt inverter with extra solar panels and multiple lithium batteries, fold down seat in the shower,
swivel table between the recliners.love the power jacks,
A drop down TV bracket is a available. I was watching a tiny house video, and it showed a large TV that dropped down very nicely.
Cougar uses one in the 260 for over a year now lol
But thats weirdly the only model
Thanks Uncle Josh! We have a 2205 mini lite that we love. I think we would enjoy the dinette for a little extra seating. Keep up the great work! 👍👍😎😎
WOW! That is a very, very nice trailer, Josh! If there was an outside fridge, I'd call it perfect!
Try this one! ruclips.net/video/X3GWa1lkVxE/видео.html
From an owner of a Keystone Cougar 26BHSW, BEWARE of the keystone claims of attention to detail and high quality workmanship etc blah blah blah. I've been in my unit since mid July 2024. It's an okay unit until it rains,gets cold then a lot of failures, no quality or attention to details become grossly apparent. For $60k cdn.its a blatant rip off.
I prefer either a shower curtain, or the retractable doors to the plastic/solid doors.
Ty
Glass doors
I laughed because right before you asked, I said, "I hate cleaning the track on a slide shower door." People think the retractable doors are flimsy, but that seems to be inaccurate. My friends with Airstreams love them. Overall, I love this camper!
Awesome thank you!
"Stephanie,... No disassemble!!! Johnny 5. is... alive!" (from the great movie "Short Circuit") Good to know I'm not the only one who appreciated this movie! I forget the actress who played Stephanie, but she was pretty hot!
Ali McGraw was the actress who played Stephanie in Short Circuit.
@@EricaBlackmon-th5wv That's Ally Sheedy, actually. And what a great movie that was! One of my favorites from my childhood.
Wouldn't You Like to Be a Pepper Too?
@@briscoe2007yep Ally Sheedy! Also in The Breakfast Club and War Games with Mathew Broderick
nonsense, you have a life and it is to enricher our lives with valuable camper information, which I know we all appreciate. Thx Josh.
lol
I LOVE a traditional dinette with storage under the benches! And, I love it when behind one side there is a plain wall so that I can put up a picture or poster behind me. I do content creation and I work in the dinette. My partner prefers a free standing table and chairs, I hate the lost storage benches. But I can keep him happy with theater seating. This would work well for us. The only thing I worry about with this layout in every brand is the toilet space. Also, we prefer a true queen bed. Those few inches of storage are more important to us on the sides. And, we actually like each other, so we don’t need a giant bed! 😂
Yeah bath space is tricky sometimes with the space available
@@theartistjodievans a queen-size mattress will work well, as many owners change out the mattress anyway.
You could get the free standing table and get a couple of storage ottomans for seating. You lose a back support but keep the storage.
Thanks Josh. Watched you 2 yrs. Just retired as a couple. Trying to do 2 to 3 trips a year at 2 to 3 months each trip, so pretty much full timing it. Torn between this and the mini lite. Is there an outdoor shower? Can you custom order it? I like it by the steps. No kids, no pets but beach life it would pay off big.
Color match and rotate those vent covers and you have a 10 for 10 camper!
This was my #2 model when we decided on a MicroLite. I do love the upgrades, particularly the slide that can be sat on. And Road Mode is my favorite feature of your reviews! Thank you for showing. Earlier models had the sink on the left which I liked because it made the two counters adjacent, but I appreciate you showing why they moved it and it makes sense. Push and Pull! With everything else they added, I'm surprised they didn't add an inverter stock. Finally, I don't understand the inner dock. It breaks up the pass through storage and I would rather it be on the side. Maybe just me.... 😄
Hard to beat a Rock/Staff product! Which Micro did you go with?
Closest thing to what I'd want. Probably works but I don't know why no one makes a slightly larger table for the breakfast nook and do chairs on one side and both on the other. It would provide a large work surface for remote work (My use case) and hte chair could get tucked under the table (out of the way) for people to walk by (through the entrance) when not in use.
We are planning on purchasing a camper by next spring and I feel in love with this camper it has everything I’ve been looking for in a camper thanks for this amazing video josh!
You bet! This thing is a rock star
Great presentation as always we would be very interested in seeing the breakfast bar arrangement situation. And btw number 5 is alive 😂
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Love this floor plan. Love the big kitchen. The bed is good. Love the open living area. The door side windows are ok. Love the storage around the bed its great. Love the colors. Don't like the bathroom right by the kitchen. Love the king bed. This is one of my favorite floor plans for 2025. Thank you!
Thanks so much!
I agree this is my favorite for couples. I am very impressed with making the left side of the bed walkable around the bed. I love the new changes definitely #1 ❤️
We agree!
We ordered one in July and a 2025 is what came in. Like the sidewall changes and interior drawers. Disappointed the In Command was gone as we wanted to monitor Temps and AC for our pup. Also disappointed that the propane tanks were changed to 20s as the on demand uses more propane compared to a 6 gallon electric/propane heater. Also there is not an easy way to do a fresh water fill if you’re using water jugs. Ours has a different speaker system which is Bluetooth only with no radio or DVD😢. Currently we can’t use the speakers with the TV.
I’d have to see what speaker system they may be using. The ones I’ve seen often allow for tv use but that may vary by tv type as well
Josh, I love all the knowledge you provide; especially for first timers. Being that we are first timers I don’t want to jump into something too large and would like to tow it with our F-150. I’ve seen several of your 1/2 ton towable videos, but it would save a lot of time surfing through the thousands of videos if they were consolidated into a 1/2 ton towable playlist. I’m not sure how labor intensive that would be for you, but it would definitely be appreciated.
Really like this one! Looks good inside and out. Really like the kitchen
Glad you like it!
Thanks Nerd! I prefer the retractable shower door over the 3 pane "glass" shower door. This look fabulous!!!
Awesome! Glad you like it!
Great couples unit. Love the use of composites. Would definitely want the fireplace and hutch thingy vs. the dinette. Would rather have the squeegee shower screen.
Awesome ty
Agree on all of the comments about the privacy curtain for the sleeping area. But also would like to see a 12v A/C option with upgraded battery solution. And auto-leveling. Otherwise - LOVE IT.
Rockwood is one of the only ones I've seen with a 12v A/C feature - and only on their power package off-grid system
They got rid of the privacy curtains. I would like to see them come back. I go to bead earlier than my wife. I hope they decide to drop the tv a little bit or tilt it down some. I like the control panel better. A slide tray in the storage area would be nice. Thanks Josh for the video. Happy thanksgiving.
Yeah I think that might been been a prototype oversight. I need to verify
Composite is the future of the RV industry. More manufacturers will be adopting this approach and I think we’ll see a majority saturation in the next 10 years.
i suspect you're right
I really like that Cougar focused on fixing the details on this model. The bed is amazing, I love the new slide mechanics that allow usage when retracted and I love the trash can space. Looks really nice.
I love how they really took customer input to heart to dial this in even further
Could you explain the changes to the slide system. It is still a cable system which is my last choice. I have GD 22mle which is the perfect Floorplan for us like this trailer. I would trade quickly if I could find this Floorplan with rack and pinion suspension without going bigger. I don't want to tow more than 5300 to 5500 dry weight. Love this fp.
@@brucevangsnes7979amen …heavy appliances on cable slide? Nope, nope,.
Road MODE, FTW! Absolutely love the details and why/how frequent features are present.
Also, the SPECs layout is really, really nice visually and timed great. Stick with that change!
will do!
Love this..when I see other option I will decide because I need table/chairs with the hip issue... unless what they have will work. This is awesome otherwise!!! 😊
We have a 2023 with dinette and 4 chairs. We leave two of the chairs at home. Provides great space
@@Hoosiervolfan thats what I wanted but it was said that was no longer avaliable in video. 😔💙
I love this model. I definitely need a curtain for the bedroom as others already mentioned. And I got a minor improvement suggestion that is to swap the location of the ladder and spare tire so that the kitchen window will have a non-obstructed view.
Not sure the ladder could swap due to some of the shower stuff
You dont want a skylight RIGHT in front of the ladder for instance
That is a very well thought out rv. I would go for the swap instead of the dinette. I still can’t get behind having a windscreen on a trailer, but it wouldn’t prevent me from buying the unit.
There are a few builders who don't offer the windshield like
► Imagine 22MLE ruclips.net/video/dg6JSMFKaBw/видео.html
► Ember 22MLQ ruclips.net/video/w0EKi0dshmU/видео.html
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But... Cougar is the only one with a dinette swap
This 2025 Keystone Cougar TT would be perfect for me if the bed is a true queen so that I get more storage space. Thanks for all the 411, Josh! Keep up the great work!
Factory doesn't offer different mattress sizes but they built it so you could put in a normal queen without issue so that's absolutely possible
As I prep to finally buy my first rv next week, watching these video's make me want to up my budget😂
What are you getting?
I love this camper! Love the dinette; love the kitchen ❤; love the king bed; love the recliners.
Two things I would like to see:
* More storage. I would give up some kitchen cabinet space for a storage closet for blankets, clothes, etc.
* small patio or rack on back to haul bikes, paddleboard, etc.
I should have mentioned, we currently have a NOBO 19.2 couples camper and we love it. But we want a non-Murphy bed, a dinette, lounge chairs, and more roomy kitchen - this does all that!
But we’ve rarely found other campers that have the storage of a NOBO 19.2. It’s hard to beat.
I have heard so many people moving AWAY from murphy beds this year. It's interesting the shift
May I ask what motivates you to prefer a fixed bed so I can better understand?
I have to say, I am so impressed with this camper. I love the layout. I love the fact they put drawers under the table and under the bed. I have a Montana 3793RD and just recently I purchased a Forest River Wildwood FSX (because a girl can not have too many campers and I needed something smaller than my fifth wheel, that I can tow on my girls trips that I do).Any way I have great storage in my Montana and drawers aren't really necessary but in the Wildwood FSX...Dear God... there is so little storage and what it does have is almost impossible to get to. It really is not worth the hassle to use them.
wow.. from a montana to an FSX.. what a culture shock! :)
@@JoshtheRVNerd lol I still have my Montana I just am scared to pull something that big... I just have started pulling a trailer in the last year. My husband always drove before.
Love this common floorplan. Like to have larger black & gray tanks. Also a bedroom privacy curtain should be standard. My preference is folding entry steps outside the unit.
TY for the step preference!
This model is still on the top of my list. Every year they’re making it a little bit better.👍 The few things I would like to see changed are…
1. High volume ceiling vent fans in both vents. At least as a factory option.
2. Lose the skylight in the shower since it already has good height and just put a nice bright flat LED panel in there with good lighting. This would eliminate a potential leak point not to mention a thermal rat hole.
3. As an option, I would like to see them match ember‘s largest solar option on the 201FBQ (my second choice). 1200 W of solar and two 270 amp hour lithium batteries.
As to your shower door question, I have mixed feelings. Yes there’s always a chance for the glass door to break, especially if you forget to latch it down before traveling. But should it get water stained from high iron content or high mineral content water, I think you can use a little harsher cleaners on the glass. Then you can the plastic Shower curtain that rolls up.
Thanks for all the hard work you put into these Josh and thank you new editor for me while you’re at it.
1.) YESSSS
2.) I think more Rvs need to start considering this
A Johnny 5 reference in a 2024 RV video? You've done it again Josh, combined my favorite RV Cougar makes with one of my favorite movies. Well played....
lol ):
Appreciate the work you put in on the videos, Josh! A LOT to really like on this layout. Front compartment and bed walking space update is a gold star 🌟 for me!
Awesome TY!
when over a window, i like the high tv just as it is, that way i can see out both at same time.. not have tv blocking it like a drop down or televator.
Ty
Great couples travel trailer from the door back. We camp for 3 months in the winter in our 29 foot couples camper. You really need a private bedroom. Curtains would be OK, but a bedroom with a door makes it easy for people that don't always go to bed or wake up at the same time. The without a door is a deal killer.
Try this - same layout but with privacy doors for the bed: ruclips.net/video/zZGp-EpcJ8w/видео.html
Or try this: ruclips.net/video/loy8nKOOj_Q/видео.html
Slightly longer cougar with a fully private bed & expanded living but still under 30ft
I'm known as someone that will say leave its ashes at Burning Man for the slightest of flaws. This..
This is something you pull up to the peraly gates 🍻
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Loved Loved Loved our Cougar 22 MLS, but quit towing to a small motorhome. Loved the dinette! Great for playing games with the grandkid. People need to know the insulation in this is fantastic! Great updates! Kind of makes me rethink towing. I used magnetic vent covers on the floor when we didn't need the vents. Those crazy screw heads! Ha ha That Dog bark got me. 😂 Thanks Josh!
Extend the screws out a wee bit more and it's the perfect place for your Eat Pray Love or Adventure is waiting signs.
lol :)
@@DisMindy5767 😆
Sweet! A very nice unit. I didn't see anything that I would want to change. It's very towable, very good-looking. Maybe a dining bar with a tootsie toaster, but what this has works well. I totally agree with you, Josh. This is doing it right.
Awesome TY!
I think that RV reviewers such as yourself, as well as upcoming brands such as Alliance, are pushing the bar and we're getting better RVs across the board.
Pushing manufacturers out of their comfort zone will continue to improve our products and make them better companies. Kudos to Keystone for continuing to listen.
Man I appreciate this. TY so much
Another excellent video, Josh! This is a great couples camper. We currently have a Micro Minnie 2108DS and would gladly trade that in on this trailer, but we're likely going full time when I retire with a DRV 5th wheel.
Nice picks!
Great travel mode! Physical switches over touch panel is a big plus, loose the Outside speakers and the Floor Vents!
Good call!
Josh!!! You hit a home run with this travel trailer! LOVE the kitchen with the great counter space , all the drawers, the large fridge, BUT NO drawers in the bathroom 😢 Also the bedroom and the storage is much better with the drawers. The only thing I don't like is why no curtains for in front of the bed. Like the fact that you can move around so we'll when the slide is closed, nice that it has azdel type material on all the walls. Very nice and how Much?
Pricing for in stock models at www.bishs.com/rv-search?stocknumber=22mls&s=true
I have a 2022 model and I have to say the bigger passthrough and the no toe smasher slide is a huge winner. Road Armor right off the showroom floor is massive too! I still believe this model needs two air conditioners because in the South, the blazing heat with sun beating down, it can get toasty inside. IMO, 440 watts of solar with an inverter is the way to go because when boondocking, there MUST BE hot coffee in the morning.
Yeah that suspension package is painfully underrated
Love the inside layout!! Missing the outside kitchen and shower. Nice RV!!
Has outside shower. Heritage Glen version does a mini camp kitchen
I love everything about this… but I noticed you didn’t (or haven’t yet, still watching) mention the 4 seasons or hot/cold ratings. Are there not-Azdel composite walls also have the same insulation (R7?) properties?
Edit: I agree that 20 lb. Propane tanks are readily available, but the cost per pound/gal. of the propane is more expensive. Also, I like that they are continuing to use white AC/vent covers. Sounds silly but if you’re in Texas, that makes a difference!
all cougars are and have been 0-110 degree proven
I really like this RV and I like the glass doors on the shower, much easier to clean. King bed is also a big plus!
TY!
If you go to the Keystone Cougar site you can see the optional seating that replaces the Dinette in the floorplan illustration
oh awesome! I recorded this so early they hadnt even updated their site for 2025's yet!
I hate the bed right when you walk in the door...if they could move the dinette down close to the bed so the door could be on the other side of the dinette on the end where the bathroom and kitchen is that would be PERFECT❣️❣️❣️
Try this one ruclips.net/video/loy8nKOOj_Q/видео.html
Definitely a privacy curtain for bedroom and agree there should be options for dinette area then it is perfect!
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Privacy curtain?? It’s a couples camper….pull the blinds and get busy.
My wife and I like everything cougar did with floorplan. We would love to see cougar continue to do what they did here on this floorplan with the rest of the travel trailer lineup and the half ton fifth wheels. The only thing missing on this floorplan is maybe a privacy curtain between the bed and the rest of the trailer.
Their equipment would be consistent thru the family if that's what you mean
Place for coffee maker..Woohoo!
Places for trash cans.....Woohoo!
Place for kitty litter box..Woohoo!
Austin RV Show this weekend. I plan to go.
Curious to know what you think once you've seen it!
We are also looking at the 22MLS as our next rig and have been doing a ton of research on this unit. This unit actually has the older problematic Accu-Slide system not the Exact-Slide System as you described in the video. As there was some conflicting info on the 22MLS Facebook page I reached out to Keystone and received this answer, "Hello Glendon, The Cougar 22MLS uses the Norco G4 Accu-slide system". Carmen Westlake KEY CONNECT PRODUCT SPECIALIST | KEYSTONE RV COMPANY.
Needless to say I was pretty excited when you said Exact-Slide, but with this new knowledge we will be looking at other options.
that was 100% an error on my part. Full stop
I was batch recording a TON of rvs and my brain was just going on auto pilot
Thanks for this update about the new slide system. I’m curious what other models you’re considering. Thanks
They finally got rid of the carpet and added drawers to the bedroom area! Those were two of the things that I really hated about the Cougar version of this model. Too bad they didn't do it sooner.
I like the dinette table over the pedestal we have in our GD 22MLE. This should be easier to convert to a bed and not matter the quality of the pedestal shouldn't have that pedestal wobble.
The big pass-through storage doors are a good improvement. They would allow us to store our Weber Q grill without having to remove the lid first.
I'll stop here but they did a great job on the update.
As to Johnny 5 I still think the 3 stooges scene is one of the funniest in the movie.
Very nice and not a bad price. And FINALLY a slide you can sit in! Bout time.
Right?!
Great video content 👍. Love the layout including the dinette. Love the bed layout. But can not get past all the white..just to much. Love to see your small travel trailer videos. Thanks again.
You bet!
I love this floor plan.
I do too!
Thanks Josh for a great video. I am very excited about the hutch and fireplace option. Do you know when they might have one for you to video? Also what are your personal thoughts on the exact cable slide? I have seen videos on the old slide system and the issues scared me. Thanks again for all you do!!!
Steven
I'm not sure when I might get ahold of a hutch model
I'm good with Exact slide systems. i'd own one myself
As ALWAYS... GREAT VIDEO!!! I would like to see a higher cargo allowance. 1300+ lb.s does not allow for much "stuff" after considering your needs of water, LP, food, clothing, etc.. Other than that... it might be the best so far. Thanks Josh!!!
It's fairly minimal for sure. TY for sharing
For the bathroom, I think the retractable door is a much better bet. You don't have to worry about glass breakage and it's squeegees itself clean when you close it
TY Kyle!
A small camper like this would be the ideal trial spot for a company to implement the sofa that transforms into a bunkbed. It takes up less room than a fold out sleeper and would allow to bring 2 small children along. Just food for thought
I could totally see it
I like this model so much when we get our next rv this design may be the one :D
Nice pick!
So, I like the dinette with the chairs. It always annoyed me to not see that as an option in some models. But now knowing that I'm in the 2% of buyers, I don't blame them at all. Not even mad. I totally get it. Thanks for that tidbit of info!
They always offered table/chairs before which I preferred but I get why they made the changes and why it's not offered anymore
I actually think if more dealers stocked it with table/chairs, then it would've remained a popular option
I just boughta 2024 22MLS, I should not have watched this. The location of the hot water heater is a big deal, having a on demand hot water heater and a long run quite a bit of water ends up in the gray tank. I am going to try and see and I can get a shower miser installed. I am jealous of the drawers under the bed and dinnette.
"i should not have watched this" lol
J5 reference! Kudos!
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Hey Josh, might want to add “Cougar” to the stock search link… it turns up a ton of non cougar units right now.
And I’m 100% with you in camp Towel Bar!
TY. This model has become crazy popular so others have just copied the floor plan designator
I guess it's nice to see options?
Thanks for continuing the crusade against outdoor speakers! Great video as always!
Always!
For us as senior citizens they fail in 3 areas. 1) The entry stairs . First step is to tall. Think bad knees and hips. They need to think ADA compliant for elderly couples. 2) the front storage intrudes to much into the bedroom making it hard to make the bed. 3) There needs to be a table and chair option no questions asked. Of course the furnace would need to be relocated. Probably easy to do. Just my opinion and some are deal killers.
and I appreciate you sharing them. Perspective is a wonderful thing and this helps
A number of neat features, like the isolated docking cubby, but not a fan of the floorplan. 1st, get the poop station away from the food prep station. 2nd, needs a wall separating the bed from the living area. 3. I'd want a slide with the dinette and sofa together and the entertainment across from them so everyone can watch the game. 4. As I said, sofa, or start putting the the cup holders in the outside arm so the "couples" can sit without the divider and 5. on the subject of couples, a 60 x 80 queen with more hanging locker space would work better - at least in our world.
All that said, really appreciate the show and tell videos, Josh.
Try this one: ruclips.net/video/loy8nKOOj_Q/видео.html
@@JoshtheRVNerd thanks for your attentiveness to your followers. I've usually liked the interiors of the Cougar line. I had seen (and liked) your review on the 25 and the layout is a big improvement over the 22. It still has the seating on opposite sides so only the theater seats get to watch TV. Also, I'm in my mid-60s and still don't get the need for a king mattress vs. a little more hanging locker and drawer space. I don't mind sleeping close to my wife, and she likes clothes for all occasions.😉
As Milton seems aimed straight for our FL area, the idea of having our northern home being our basecamp and trailering over the winter is gaining appeal.
As always, thank you for your content.
Josh, here is the buffet, desk, eating area and fireplace.
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I love it. Great video. Thx so much.
You're welcome! Glad you liked it!
Looks like they took a really good little camper and made it into a little great little camper
seriously!
Still my favorite of all the half ton towable couples camper. But wasn't there a privacy curtain for the bed area?
I feel like there was.. it's possible this was an early-look 2025 that didn't have one put up?
My Cougar 24SABWE with propane (prob not full), 2 batteries, and a full pass thru is around 750-800lbs tongue weight depending on factors. Weight in the rear, like 3 bikes on the hitch, and take some off the front for example. This floor plan is awesome. I'd consider this if it was out when I got our 24SABWE. I love the kitchen, that alone would make me consider this over what we have. But I also really love our bedroom. We can close the doors and just heat that area at night if needed with a small 300 watt heater in the PacNW.
Also I swapped our stock suspension with a Road Armor I won't ever have an RV without one now. It is that big of a difference. And yah Josh, they probably were 30 lbs, that is what ours is. I kind of like it because I use it for our fire pit as well.
When our teenage High school kids are out of the nest, this is the camper that I want for my wife and I. I think it is the perfect size for state park hopping. I would like to see laminate countertops come back for the “budget line” of campers. Our first 2010 Forest River Serria had them. Our new GD 27BH has these thermafoil tops and I’m just not a fan.
Thermofoil and laminate counters are the same thing btw. They just handle their edges differently
The problem isn't thermofoil. It's the industry's drive to build everything for less money which means they're using a worse glue
@ I have to respectfully disagree with you on this one. Thermafoil and laminate like Formica are two different things. Thermafoil is a thin plastic sheet that is heated and then vacuumed formed over the mdf substrate. Laminate such as Formica is a much thicker sheet of material that is applied with contact adhesive to the substrate and the back of the laminate then applied, rolled out, and trimmed with a trim router. The laminate is much less sensitive to heat and impact damage than the thermafoil. You just can’t get the fancy ogee style edge with the laminate. But yes these manufacturers are trying to build them as cheap as possible, and not necessarily cheap as in poor quality just not ideal materials is certain areas. This is also to make these units as lightweight as they can also. It’s all about the bottom line which i understand from a business standpoint. I can only compare the last camper I had for almost 14 years to this new one I have had for about 7 months. Anyway thanks for taking the time to respond. I have been watching your channel for years. I think back since around 2012 or so. Always enjoy your videos. Hope you and your family have a nice thanksgiving.
I like the build aspects, but I prefer the bedroom walled off because I like to stay up late and wife goes to bed early, also that gives us two zones to watch different stuff on the tube with out bothering the other.
Same general layout from bullet actually offers privacy doors for the bedroom as seen here! ruclips.net/video/zZGp-EpcJ8w/видео.html
I’m wondering about air flow to the back of the trailer I didn’t see an air vent back by the kitchen or did I miss that I really like this floor plan
Love this RV. Cougar nailed it.
agreed!