Choosing the Right Channel Strip with Joe Carrell
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- Which console is the best for your productions? Joe Carrell talks about the different channel strips of iconic manufacturers like SSL, NEVE, and Focusrite. This is your definitive guide to the Plugin Alliance channel strip collection.
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Thanks! If i wrote one wrong, please let me know.
00:00 Intro
02:40 Neve
03:24 Console N
04:20 Focusrite
05:18 SSL E
06:35 SSL 9000 E
07:50 Scrolling through Channel Strips
It's the SSL 9000 J, not "E". =)
Thank you, real MVP!
2:44 Lindell (1970s)
3:27 Neve (1980s)
4:25 Focusrite (1990s)
5:25 SSL 4000 E (1980s)
6:41 SSL 9000 J (2000s)
Thoughts: Most accustomed to SSL 4000 E sound. It felt home. Didn't expect to like the Lindell so much. I want to try this on some "larger than life" feeling songs. SSL 9000 K was very similar to Lindell...with a little more mid range clarity. But somehow "wow'd" me less than the Lindell? (edit: it wow'd me less because of the low end frequencies) I think Focusrite would sound great on Jazz/Classical music...its richness and warmness sounded the cleanest/least distortion...but I find it to be too boring for Pop/Rock. The Neve just screamed "Grunge and angry music" to me for some reason.
I am currently trying to take in many demo videos, I'm order to find each channel stripes strengths, weaknesses and specialties. In the end, there will be a reference chart; to help make each track's character and vibe precisely how I envision them. This will greatly improve workflow speed and reduce time for analysis and selection. If such a chart exists, I will use that instead (unless something is missing).
@@brian95240 hi, have you made the chart? I’d love to have a copy of it if you did, thank you.
Wooow, that console N is incredible for low-end! It's tight and polished
That's really awesome feedback. Thank you so much!
Love the Lindell 80!
@@gonebymidnight2881 Y E S !!!
Best video I have seen explaining this… I wish the Lindell API was out at the time of this.
As a singer songwriter... That Lindell is sounding amazing. So much vibe!!!
That Lindell just works perfectly for this song...sounds so beautiful, Second for me would be the 9000J on the E curve, those open highs sound really good
Thanks for letting us know!
Best channel strip comparison ever made, as far as I can find.
😎👍👍
Love the sound of the Lindell 80, use it all over my mixes and just adore the sound, the PA Lindell strips are AMAZING, I also love their Lindell X Channel, it's very affordable and just has a richness about it that just brings the sound out in a bright, yet warm way... PA strips are amazing!
We really appreciate the great feedback. Thank you very much!
I agree
I always use the Lindell 80 Bus with the 9000 J with Klanghelm DC8 comp or bx Townhome Comp
I think Joe Carell nails it.Once you identify each console's extra nice sections,i.e.the beautiful Lindell high end,fat fluffy low end,the almost foolproof musical EQ and dynamic sections of the SSL consoles,its really gratifying to knowingly reach for the right match for your source material.I love the tip about juicing the input of the console front end to invoke some extra mojo it's a very valid one,if you haven't,give at go,it's nice.P.S anyone else think the BX N console EQ is possibly the nicest all round EQ in these series?
It's funny because reviewing the Focusrite SC nobody really says too much in the comments about it, but he literally says he just used it on some records....
That's selling point. Missed it the first time but starting to appreciate the more transparent way this thing works.
Cheers.
We're glad to hear the magic is working for you. Thanks for the enchanting feedback!
The Focusrite is absolutely awesome in it's capabilities. It can definitely be used on rock music if you know what you're doing.
The Neve and SSL 9000 sound amazing to my ears. However I love the API in my mixes.
Man, I used to have a buddy who mixed on an SSL 9000J and I'd pay him some cash to run my mixes through his console....he was working on an old Mac Pro 2 core, so it would take 5hrs just to load my files from a usb stick to his computer so he could run them through the SSL from there, then re-record them it was a couple hours as well. Man come to think of it, I owe him a couple more bucks....uggghhh! Anyway the 9000j does have this high end cleanness that all other's do not have! And when it's gone you totally miss it! And I didn't realize I was missing it till this video...so thank you! That's exactly what I've been trying to get on my mixes with my mixbuss eq...which is generally the V3 eq and then some widening with Nugen Qudio Steroizer and Monofilter. But that magic air and sheen you get from the 9000J might be just what the Dr. needed to save a shit ton of time and searching to replace that magical sheen on every single....source!!! Copied from Paul Allen:Wouldn't it be great if you could cycle through these channel strips keeping the same settings to decide which 'flavour' you wanted with one instantiation of a plugin? Plugin Alliance - if you're listening?
love the lindel audio and 9000 punch clarity depth & width...
Use all of these. Mega Bundle is the way to go. Waiting on a Trident channel strip
I agree
Plugin alliance definately best Plugins online
after everything i still love the 4000! the definition and clarity in the mid range is just so good, and i find the low end and high end easier to control and get right
Joe Carrell is a guarantee
KNIGHTEAR RECORDS thanks man!
I'm sold, he's great teacher. :) thanks for this awesome insight, Joe! as well as plugin alliance for great products. huge fan of both !
It was this video that sold me on the SSL J. Just running signal through it without any EQ saturates the sound in a a very classy and pleasing way and feels like 50% of the way toward making raw tracks sound like a record. I've played the field for a long time and was seriously dating the Neve N but it's so nice to finally have a default strip I can settle down with. Also, I was skeptical of tolerance modelling but now I'm sold. Really a top-shelf plug.
Thanks for the great support and sharing your experience!
TMT is wow i got the J
4 real this is a good product, never without it again
my 1st wow was with arturia fx bundle and also softube model 84 (soooo real)
the software algos are fool proof these days
thx Pa 4 doin what u doin u earned a customer
@@starkid9736 The PA SSL J is my longest running keeper plug. My workflow now is to track my MIDI compositions through the J with the compressor just barely lighting up at a very low ratio, then printing the output to audio file stems. I then have another channel strip that I mix those tracks through, actually a small combination of strips (the PA Amek strip can work for this), but its a super solid no-brainer system that _just works_ and sounds fantastic . Cheers-
@@jfilbert i use amek and the 9000j in altering combinations maybe a driven summit eq or the siemens here and there and i got all crucial possibilitys covered
this all u need 2 place sound objects on the mix canvas
before those strips i had 2 remember whats up in my efx chain and fiddle there 2 place the sounds
but now its done with these 2 simple GUIs (feels like 2 easy)
The SSL 9000 J has a two end clarity I really like. The bass and mids are good, too, as are they are in the other channel strips, but the clarity of the sounds helped me dive into the music.
That's great to hear. Thanks for the wonderful feedback and sharing your experience!
That SSL 9000 J is pretty good.
We're really glad to hear that. Thanks for the nice feedback!
I have the Focusrite and recently I decided to use it. And is a very good one.. I am really impressed . But he second VST in my speakers sound it better. The snare wasn't muddy . The third one in my speakers sound it like transients were cut of very settle.. All of them are very good. I guess it depends what kind of music are you mixing . Thank you so much for this rich video..
between that 4000 and 9000 they both sound good to me
Thanks for the nice feedback!
SSL 9000 J for the win,Lindell is a close second place 👍
You were looking for the word "creamy" when you described the Lindell Neve plugins... You're welcome. :-) The SSL E sounds nice too.
Lindell and SSL 9000 sound great for me. Already have the Lindell, I'll definitely get the 9000. I'm waiting for an API style from Plugin Alliance!
I would so much rather have an api console then the Telefunken compressor/saturator they just put out.
Let’s get it PA
Jared Loiben the API is coming 👊🏼
Joe Carrell Don’t do that. Don’t give me hope
Console_API_!cool
@@jloiben12 its release date is in october
Focusrite for me. Warm sound without being muddy. I would add a 10k shelf on top of it.
It's just what you like that matters. I like a 'live organic' sound.
I'm a big fan of the lindell, the low end is so amazing to my ears. I also like the other Neve, but the 9000 surely has a place as well. Great video for helping us knowing which one to grab depending on the context.
The Lindell and the SSL 9000 is a winner for me. I definitely like the bottom in and top smooth part of the SSL 9000. Can't wait for you guys to make the API style plugins. Great job as always Joe!
Thanks for the nice feedback!
They already made an API Channel Strip!Check Lindell 50 in the Plugin Alliance website. Really lovely plugin🙌🏻
Lindell 80 is one of the few things i have on my mixbus, it just helps everything sound better.
Yep. Lindell and the SSL 9000 like others have said. I wandered in the wilderness of the Schepp's Omni for a while, but I'm going back to the SSLs.
This is a great video. Thank you so much.
I have the SSL E and the Neve strips. I've listened to the phase differences of both and they do change the sound even without any processing applied. Interestingly, the SSL mainly colours only the low-end but the Neve colours the entire spectrum. The difference is very subtle (especially with no processing) but try running audio through multiple strips and you will hear the difference!
What would You say about Neve strip? What are Your impressions of usage?
@@OCTO8R It's all very good
The EQ has a shiny top end, fat mids and a really full bottom - all features I'd expect to hear from experience using the UAD 88RS. It can also do a tighter Q's than the SSL. Unless I want to focus on a single frequency, you can definitely get 'surgical' with it.
On some sources the compressor does compete with the stand-alone compressor plugins I own as it definitely brought something new to the palette - In some situations I might choose it over a compressor plugin, especially if I'm already using the strip for the EQ's. I also learned from it that you can't judge the sound too much based on what type of compressor it is (VCA) as it did have a particular warmth to it, not what I'd usually expect from a VCA.
I tend to not use channel strip gates much because they do lack lookahead which is quite important for transparency and retaining transients imo.
The TMT is cool. Wouldn't really care if it didn't have it though.
One very small issue I have with it is that the knobs don't move very smoothly
@@TheOgruffydd Thank You!!!
Just came across your mixes today. These sounds are tugging on my heart making' me cry man!
"What we're trying to do here is focus on the nature of the circuit itsef". Matching settings not only couldn't ever do that (hardware or software). Either at any settings or pushed where each of these channel strips also shine in their own right. Particularly, the SSL, and Focusrite SC. I mean, it's what they all do. Albeit with slightly different characteristics. Thanks for the review. You are right about them all being excellent. The bx Console series are all tremendous. The Focusrite and N are my two favorites. Getting just the right sound from Preamps really help. The Focusrite SC with acoustic instruments is or seems to really shine over the others. IMO.
Cheers and thanks again for the tease : )
Thank you Joe. This taught me so much. Even more than you were showing us. Very much appreciated.
I really needed this video !
this review workflow is the most complete and straightforward . very good ! side by side 9000J shines for my ears, next is Lindel.
Thanks man, we'll done comparisons. They really all have their place.
All right, Joe and PA. Time to add the Lindell 50 to a back to back video!
That and the 9099 both need to find their way into some vids!! Our friends at PA are dripping so many new toys I can’t keep up! 😂😂. Have a good weekend Sean 👊🏼✌🏼
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell The AMEK 9099 has quickly become my new favorite! Headroom to rival the SSL 9kJ and enough utility to need little else. AND THE SOUND! Sheesh. Looking forward to your take on the latest. CHEERS!
Joe, I absolutely lovvve ur vids! Many thnx 2 plug-in alliance!
Thank YOU for the nice feedback!
Love the video. I have all of them except the Lindell 80 which I will get it soon or later. I already have the new Neold V76U73 which sounds amazing. I'm about that channel strip life!
I use the Lindell 80 and I really like it. I would really like a Trident A Console channel strip by Brainworx, it would be kick-ass for vintage rock.
Thanks for letting us know!
@@PluginAllianceTV Yes I have really wanted that as well! Or the holly grail EMI TG12345, Id go absolutely crazy for an EMI TG series desk. Or any model TG
I liked the Console N and SSL 9000 J.
I got the bx Focusrite SC (free) after buying a Scarlett Solo but after listening to the comparison with earbuds, the SSL 9000J sounded so good I went out and bought it from Plugin Alliance. It sounds WAY clearer.
Super cheap with their PICK* vouchers if you find at least something else to stick in the cart.
Thank you for this. I am a novice. 😊
This is exactly the video I needed as a new mega bundle subscriber 🤌
Awesome, we're glad to hear it helped. Thanks for the nice feedback and enjoy your new tools!
Lindell 80 rules then the SSL 9000 J !
Thank you!
Great video! It is good to see this kind of real-life comparison between the different channel strips and hear the difference. Much appreciated!
My faves were Lindell 80 and J9000 for this mix.
Lindel 80 sounds great, but for this song I like the SSL9000J
Love them all! One thing to note is that the 80 series is the only one that's using compression in the comparison.
Awesome Joe glad they put you up to this😂
This was so great at explaining and showing the differences. I have no one to guide me and have been going in blind for a while now and struggled to properly understand channel strips. I love the SSL and have been trying to properly understand how it works. This was a great door opener for me! Im getting it now lol thanks for this!
We're glad to hear the video is helpful. Thank YOU for sharing and enjoy your sessions!
Great, thanks!
Thanks for the nice demonstration. Quite right what you said: There isn´t one "the best". They all have their characters. Also at the end it comes down to your taste and how you can handle these different channel strips. Cheers, Mario.
so cool, i really like the 9000
Yeh that was my fav although the Lindel sounded great too.
All sound great, but I like the most the Focusrite.
Great demonstration. Thanks, Joe!
I come back to this video again and again to develop a strategy for each group of tools.Thank you so much Joe Carell for your efforts!
5:28 The high pass and low pass filters on the bx 4K are engaged by default.
Even at 20hz / 22K you'll definitely hear the slope.
That's why the 9K sounds more open and less tight 7:05
Great shootout Joe; Thanks!
Given the amount of channel strips in PA bundle this video is super useful 👍👍👍
We're glad to hear it's helping. Thanks for the nice feedback!
I like Focusrite and 9000 more than others. The sound so pleasing
What a great video
Thank you very much!
What a great tutorial!!!. THANK YOU SO MUCH JOE & ALLIANCE
That's fantastic feedback, thanks!
I like the Lindell 80 and the 9000 J but I'm still learning how to use them.
If I had to pick 2 of those I’d say the 9000 J would be my top pick for modern music (rap pop etc) but for those more accoustic tracks like the one in this example I think that Neve Console N sounds great. The focusrite seemed dull to me in this example but I’m sure it fits some genres
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Really interesting and fun comparison! Thanks!
The SSL 4000 E sounded best for me and the Lindell 80 is also very nice for 70s style music.
The Focusrite has a lot of punch in the lower midrange but sounds a little bit too dark and muddy for me (maybe other settings are necessary here).
Not every spice suits every dish. Thanks for sharing your experience!
The Focusrite EQ curves are broader and need to be pushed harder than SSLs. The sound can open up much more than is heard here. Also, he isn't using the low-mid EQ (for whatever reason), which is where thinning out the darkness and roominess can happen and allow the FR to sound much more open.
Highly appreciate this! Thank you Plugin Alliance. Love the Lindell.
Lindell 80 and SSL9000J but Lindell 80 is better for me!
I agree, but for this song I like the SSL9000J
Great Way to explain and compare the sonic characteristics of each emulation. Really helpful. Thank you 🙌🏾.
Great comparison, I use them too, on different tracks. And with TMT inside you have hundreds of different channel strips.
Thank you for doing this straight forward , easy to understand comparison.
Really great video, man. I still need the Lindell and a 9000. Gotta have 'em all!
Great video, thanks a lot. My fave is LINDELL 80, I just love what it does to the low end...
Thanks a lot Joe. This demonstration video helped me make a decision as to which channel strip is my next purchase...
Awesome! Hope you’re getting great results with it.
I want to see Joe with the Amek 9099. Which has become my favorite recently. Still love SSL on guitars and drums. But, if I have to have one it’s now the AMEK.
Thanks for letting us know!
Tremendously helpful video, thank you
You're very welcome!
honestly I love all PA channel strips. I wish they made more compressors like a Distressor or 2500,3A,33609
Thanks for great feedback and letting us know!
I leaned back HARD when the SSL J came on
What a great video! I can see the benefit of the focusrite when I need to produce more Jazz 😁
We're glad to hear it helped. Thanks for the nice feedback!
like this guy. he really understands his stuff, beyond just the mechanical repetition of marketing slogans, like most people. i'm a sucker for consoles, as well. but i stay away from pa stuff, even though i have about half of them, because they don't have a tape insert after the preamp. using tape like that makes all the difference in the world, and really completes the console workflow. putting it after the channel strip just isn't the same. the only ones that do that are the mixhub and soc. if pa put an insert slot on their consoles, i'd be sold, for the sheer variation of consoles alone, not to mention the tmt. plus i really like that focusrite.
Damn. I got the ssl 4k e, 4k g and the focusrite. But the Lindell is slaying them all for me
Just starting to decipher this stuff... thank you for the elegant, concise presentation! Loving the Lindell but also the N.
Great vid! I was just messing around with these a few hours ago. Perfect timing, thanks.
That 9000J sounded great for this song. It reminded me sonically of Take My Breath Away by Berlin.
This is was an amazingly clear comparison.
I'm only a hobbyist, but the Lindell does it for me. Listening on quality cans, and hearing them side by side like that, is frightening. The extra octave on the J is stunning, perhaps too stunning. The focusrite is a completely horrible narrow squashed mess. The SSL's well take your pick. The N Console, made the soundstage appear tiny. All in my unprofessional opinion. Cheers Joe!
Great video brother! best one i have seen. Keep it up really informative
Thanks Joe, great lesson. Very eye/ear opening.
Wouldn't it be great if you could cycle through these channel strips keeping the same settings to decide which 'flavour' you wanted with one instantiation of a plugin? Plugin Alliance - if you're listening?
I appreciate not all channel strips will have exactly the same layout/options..
I was just thinking this while watching. Check out the PSP InfiniStrip. It allows you to switch styles of EQ, comp, etc without changing the settings themselves
McDSP's compressors are like that
eq's aswell
@@DouglasComical yes this is our go to strip. Very convenient and sounds good.
My favorite from these examples is either the console N or SSL 9000. The console N has this tight clarity but also felt like the mids were scooped or something, the guitar sound was really pleasing. The 9000 felt the most modern and exciting, but also had some frequencies I didn’t dig as much in the mid range
Right, the snare on the N was amazing! I could see doing his mix with the 9k and then the N on just the snare.
It would be awesome to see you guys get into api and more neve channel strips :)
MidniteBeats the API is coming! 😉 near future my friend.
We do! 😉
I enjoyed this one. More like this please! Pass the knowledge
We're on it. Stay tuned!
Focusrite and SSL 9000
Very professional comparison, and true.
SSL 9000 E was the best to me, Neve next
Thanks for letting us know and enjoy your sessions!
The Focusrite is growing on me.
Track thru Neve(UAD or HW). Mix Thru SSL9000
HW you mean hardware?
Yep!
Currently I use the Chandler TG2 for all my tracking
Thanks!