Turbo 2 precleaners work well. Donaldson also makes them. John Deere sells the Donaldson ones as well. On our combine we like to use a cordless leaf blower to blow things off they work well to blow out air filters as they are high flow low pressure so the risk of damaging filters is low
Right after Mount St Helens blew its top in 1980, I was trucking at the time and, out West, there was a lot of volcanic ash in Oregon, Idaho, and Washington even a few hundred miles from the actual mountain. We put pantyhose over the air intake on the trucks to act as a pre-filter. Worked great.
40 to 50 years ago, I used a service from our Wix supplier for air filter cleaning. It could only be used once on a filter, but it saved a ton of money.
Damn, I ran equipment for 35 years and every so often we just automatically blew out the air filters. That air filter was ridiculous. I'd thought you would know better.
After all my ownership gratification with the newer equipment I just go straight to cursing electronically controlled anything and the government mandates before i even start investigating the problem. Thank You for the time and effort You put into these videos. Best Wishes to You and Your Family Jeff. #D9G
Thanks Jeff for another great video. I wonder why they kept having a bunch of service calls/ had to desensitize the sensor/system. Electrical/placement issues or undersized filter system/poor precleaner (maybe all of these are factors??). Anyways, I think the Turbo II’s are the heaviest duty and are also very efficient. I’ve also used Donaldson TopSpins, which are very efficient as well, but at least some of the models are mostly made of plastic (you may be able to get metal versions, not sure) and I don’t think they are as tough as a result (however, they are a good deal lighter). The Turbo II’s are generally pricier per size. Have a good one.
Great video Jeff always enjoy watching your drone footage and the music. Nasty looking filter but the middle one was pretty clean after you pulled the primary out. Thanks for sharing stay safe Jeff.
I run three fertilizer spreaders in my operation. I can have a new filter look like that in two days. That being said it wasn't as bad as some I have seen in our area Jeff. That stupid desert powder gets into everything. The grease idea is going to help me out on my air filters. Thanks for the tip
A blocked filter will make the engine run hot, it can’t have been quite blocked completely. Those filters have huge capacity for dust. I had one of those pre-cleaners with the screen on it on my header (combine to some) and the screen used to block up about every half hour in some conditions. Every unload would see me out there pulling the screen off and cleaning it. If I didn’t she would get hot. Never blow a filter out even though the temptation is great. Put a new one in.
As the 336 is running watch if the dust flows over the hood close to the air intake on top of the hood . If it doe's raise up the intake pipe higher by 2' then add a predust cleaner that sucks out the dust out through the exhaust , they had some on Oliver 2255 tractors with the v8 CAT engines . Other tractors use the same system with good results . The Oliver pre cleaner was on the top of the intake pipe and the suction hose ran down through the hood to the exhaust pipe up the center of the exhaust to blow dust out the exhaust .
Donaldson makes a grrrrr8 "crap-trap" for your air cleaner. Problem is they work - you gotta clean them out all the time. I had a good one on a 6 cylinder Deutz diesel. Nice video - rhanks
Jeff, look into the Donaldson catalog. There are several levels of pre filtering that can be applied to the 336E. Yours is a Donaldson filter that CAT has branded.
G'day Jeff. Love your videos. Keep em coming!. Is there any point in raising the level of your air intake to as high as possible, for example to the top or the cab? Most trucks that work dirt roads here in Australia, have the intake almost at roof level, and some actually on the roof, to try and get out of the dust as much as possible. Just saying.
We are hay farmers. I personally clean out every filter of every tractor every day of use. Engine air filters ac air filters and blow out the radiator and hydraulic coolers and ac condensers. Everyday. It takes time but it's cheap than dusting an engine and over heating. Just my two cents.
Jeff you think you can find one of the precleaner bowl systems like the farm tractors have on them. It would help get some of the dirt out not so much in filter. One other thing I would make it a habit of cleaning it every day thx Jeff you win
Geoff and NZ we use a pre filter called a Donaldson pre filter ,excellent bit of equipment,all the big earth moving gear use the Donaldson pre filter,I don,t know if you can source these in the U S but they are top of the range out here,best of luck.
Oh my! The only time I had filters get that bad (farming and dozer work) was plowing in drought and cleaning up a waterway with cattails.....cat tails were hourly air and radiator clean.
And now that I think about it . I remember dumping the cup on the pre cleaner every morning. That 436 B was a sweet rig. You could run the AC and the heat at the same time. And I often did , in the rain. I think you should find the old-school cat pre cleaner , just for nostalgia sake.
Wow Jeff, with your “legendary” close type relationship, and being on a first name basis and all with those “CAT” engineers (not).., you could provide valuable input to them about how “F’ed-up” their thinking is on allowing 50 pounds of dirt & debris to become built up in all the filters, before any warning…, absolutely unbelievable…! BTW, I saw the 14G there feeling kinda left out, hope you give her some attention (video footage of her in action out there).
There’s always a little debate and opinions on cleaning air filters. Some say that frequent removal and re-installation increases the chances of dust getting in the intake or an improper seal. Some say that blowing a filter out daily can weaken the integrity of the filter media, ultimately allowing dust to penetrate it. You have to find a happy medium for the application. You have to trust the person that’s cleaning/changing it. I wouldn’t want just anybody cleaning/changing air filters in my equipment. A restriction gauge will certainly help. I’m surprised Cat didn’t send a letter out. All my equipment had gauges, and even they required maintenance sometimes Dust is the enemy. I wouldn’t be surprised if Jeff had a little prayer meeting over this.
Manufactures are the ones making the statements... not they, not them. Companies like Donaldson, CAT, Fleetguard test the resuls. They are the ones dealing with warranty. Once a filter is installed it is to remain in place for the duration. Every imprint is a potential leak.
Jeffrey with PM maintenance like that no wonder everything‘s tore apart. Just kidding kinda, happens to everybody now and then. Would love to meet the genius engineer or accountant that decided dust cups aren’t needed.
That machine doesn’t have an aspirator on it? Most farm tractors and combines have an aspirator to suck a significant amount of dust out through the exhaust…….
I have a question, Jeff. In New England, there are stone walls just everywhere from who knows when; I asked about them one time and the response was that as the farmers worked their fields, the stones popped up and were moved to the edges of the field and they built those walls with them. I see where you live, there is the same situation with just enormous amounts of stones popping up in the fields. Do y'all have those random stone walls in some places there like they have in New England?
First thing Ide do is extend that air pipe up about five or six foot up out of harms way! that air filter you have there doesnt appear to have any kind of a pre cleaner on it??!
Turbo 2 precleaners work well. Donaldson also makes them. John Deere sells the Donaldson ones as well. On our combine we like to use a cordless leaf blower to blow things off they work well to blow out air filters as they are high flow low pressure so the risk of damaging filters is low
Turbo 2 time tested
Right after Mount St Helens blew its top in 1980, I was trucking at the time and, out West, there was a lot of volcanic ash in Oregon, Idaho, and Washington even a few hundred miles from the actual mountain. We put pantyhose over the air intake on the trucks to act as a pre-filter. Worked great.
Best i remember? Operator is supposed to check on things regularly. Maybe operator needs an air compressor to blow things off and out daily.
He should be cleaning that filter daily in those dusty conditions... Thank goodness he's family...😉
NEVER open air filters unless you are replacing them.
Blowing out a filter is a great way to ruin it and eventually your engine.
We used to have a place that washed the filters but i dont think they are around any longer
I had to dust off my screen after watching this.
40 to 50 years ago, I used a service from our Wix supplier for air filter cleaning. It could only be used once on a filter, but it saved a ton of money.
Damn, I ran equipment for 35 years and every so often we just automatically blew out the air filters. That air filter was ridiculous. I'd thought you would know better.
After all my ownership gratification with the newer equipment I just go straight to cursing electronically controlled anything and the government mandates before i even start investigating the problem.
Thank You for the time and effort You put into these videos.
Best Wishes to You and Your Family Jeff.
#D9G
Cat makes a pre-cleaner, demo air cleaner
Holy hell, pre-cleaner is definitely in your future!
Thanks Jeff for another great video. I wonder why they kept having a bunch of service calls/ had to desensitize the sensor/system. Electrical/placement issues or undersized filter system/poor precleaner (maybe all of these are factors??). Anyways, I think the Turbo II’s are the heaviest duty and are also very efficient. I’ve also used Donaldson TopSpins, which are very efficient as well, but at least some of the models are mostly made of plastic (you may be able to get metal
versions, not sure) and I don’t think they are as tough as a result (however, they are a good deal lighter). The Turbo II’s are generally pricier per size.
Have a good one.
Turbo 2 best ive used on heavy equipment. You can see the dust dropping out of them.Saying from Australia.Enjoy youre weekly uodates.
The air breathers that use a venturi hooked to your exhaust work the best.
Thanks Jeff for drone views.
Great video Jeff always enjoy watching your drone footage and the music. Nasty looking filter but the middle one was pretty clean after you pulled the primary out. Thanks for sharing stay safe Jeff.
I kid you not, Kamala is advertising on the Jay paydirt channel. That's freaky😮 Make it stop😢
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I run three fertilizer spreaders in my operation. I can have a new filter look like that in two days. That being said it wasn't as bad as some I have seen in our area Jeff. That stupid desert powder gets into everything. The grease idea is going to help me out on my air filters. Thanks for the tip
Hi Jeff. I would recommend the Enginaire Pre cleaner. I saw them at Con Ex some years ago and was very impressed with the way they work.
Turbo 2 or Turbo 3 precleaners seem to be the most popular these days.
Yep it is sure plugged up bro. Easy fix though. Safe travels. Ken.
That 14 was looking lonesome.
#JeffWins
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Lot of folks in my area run a Turbo brand precleaner.
A blocked filter will make the engine run hot, it can’t have been quite blocked completely. Those filters have huge capacity for dust. I had one of those pre-cleaners with the screen on it on my header (combine to some) and the screen used to block up about every half hour in some conditions. Every unload would see me out there pulling the screen off and cleaning it. If I didn’t she would get hot. Never blow a filter out even though the temptation is great. Put a new one in.
As the 336 is running watch if the dust flows over the hood close to the air intake on top of the hood . If it doe's raise up the intake pipe higher by 2' then add a predust cleaner that sucks out the dust out through the exhaust , they had some on Oliver 2255 tractors with the v8 CAT engines . Other tractors use the same system with good results . The Oliver pre cleaner was on the top of the intake pipe and the suction hose ran down through the hood to the exhaust pipe up the center of the exhaust to blow dust out the exhaust .
04:16, NOW that's really bad where it blends in with the actual dirt! Hello from TEXAS!
geezz, you lucky bastards, wish i had all those rocks to put around my pond
Donaldson makes a grrrrr8 "crap-trap" for your air cleaner. Problem is they work - you gotta clean them out all the time. I had a good one on a 6 cylinder Deutz diesel. Nice video - rhanks
Awesome Drone Shot Jeff!
Jeff, look into the Donaldson catalog. There are several levels of pre filtering that can be applied to the 336E. Yours is a Donaldson filter that CAT has branded.
I'd be shocked if he spend that kind of money. We will see though.
Thanks for the show Jeff 🍻
Nothing Like "Greasing the Rim" while in the field... 🤫💪
😍😍😍😍😍 THANKS JEFF FOR YOUR VIDEO, -- ESPECIALLY THE DRONE FOOTAGE !!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Turbo 2 precleaners work well... ran a turbo 2 thru mt st Helens and only had to clean filter every few weeks
G'day Jeff. Love your videos. Keep em coming!.
Is there any point in raising the level of your air intake to as high as possible, for example to the top or the cab? Most trucks that work dirt roads here in Australia, have the intake almost at roof level, and some actually on the roof, to try and get out of the dust as much as possible. Just saying.
Mercy that that's a lot of ROCKS make some expensive fatness ground. Roll on BIG MOMMA
Mr Paydirt, id love to have some of that dirt for my yard . All we have is flintrocks 😮😮.
Donaldson pre filter on my machines, I add an extension pipe depending on how the air/ dust is blowing.,also I blow out radiator and hydraulic cooler
We are hay farmers. I personally clean out every filter of every tractor every day of use. Engine air filters ac air filters and blow out the radiator and hydraulic coolers and ac condensers.
Everyday. It takes time but it's cheap than dusting an engine and over heating. Just my two cents.
Jeff you think you can find one of the precleaner bowl systems like the farm tractors have on them. It would help get some of the dirt out not so much in filter. One other thing I would make it a habit of cleaning it every day thx Jeff you win
Turbo 2 precleaner, change the cab filter to we change cab filters very oilchange when working in a rockquarry
Geoff and NZ we use a pre filter called a Donaldson pre filter ,excellent bit of equipment,all the big earth moving gear use the Donaldson pre filter,I don,t know if you can source these in the U S but they are top of the range out here,best of luck.
Oh my! The only time I had filters get that bad (farming and dozer work) was plowing in drought and cleaning up a waterway with cattails.....cat tails were hourly air and radiator clean.
You are sourcing them from the USA... I'll be shocked if Jeff springs for their solution... but we shall see.
Use the Turbo brand spinner. They have been around a long time and I believe in their product.
I have been spitting on my fingers and getting the sealing surface wet before install , since the 436 B was new. I think i will try the grease.
And now that I think about it . I remember dumping the cup on the pre cleaner every morning. That 436 B was a sweet rig. You could run the AC and the heat at the same time. And I often did , in the rain. I think you should find the old-school cat pre cleaner , just for nostalgia sake.
Can we have the sing-a-long copyright busting version of Bonanza again sometime please Jeff...I miss your dulcit tones...! 😉🤔😆🥴
Life. Get one.
@Failure_Is_An_Option Uh-Oh....Are you one of those serious local chapter union boyz who watch Jeff's video..? 🙄
...that's why they call him Dusty....
Wow Jeff,
with your “legendary” close type relationship, and being on a first name basis and all with those “CAT” engineers (not).., you could provide valuable input to them about how “F’ed-up” their thinking is on allowing 50 pounds of dirt & debris to become built up in all the filters, before any warning…, absolutely unbelievable…!
BTW, I saw the 14G there feeling kinda left out, hope you give her some attention (video footage of her in action out there).
Wonder if you could rig up some kind of Dysons (tornado type) particulate filter prior to the air filter?
There’s always a little debate and opinions on cleaning air filters. Some say that frequent removal and re-installation increases the chances of dust getting in the intake or an improper seal. Some say that blowing a filter out daily can weaken the integrity of the filter media, ultimately allowing dust to penetrate it.
You have to find a happy medium for the application. You have to trust the person that’s cleaning/changing it. I wouldn’t want just anybody cleaning/changing air filters in my equipment.
A restriction gauge will certainly help. I’m surprised Cat didn’t send a letter out.
All my equipment had gauges, and even they required maintenance sometimes
Dust is the enemy. I wouldn’t be surprised if Jeff had a little prayer meeting over this.
Manufactures are the ones making the statements... not they, not them. Companies like Donaldson, CAT, Fleetguard test the resuls. They are the ones dealing with warranty. Once a filter is installed it is to remain in place for the duration. Every imprint is a potential leak.
Jeffrey with PM maintenance like that no wonder everything‘s tore apart. Just kidding kinda, happens to everybody now and then. Would love to meet the genius engineer or accountant that decided dust cups aren’t needed.
Cab filter and engine air filter on a different schedule? Better have a chat.
Donaldson makes good pre cleaners .
Nice farm views out there.
Can you set a timer on the machine to blow out the filters every hundred hours or is blowing out filters not worth it?
That machine doesn’t have an aspirator on it? Most farm tractors and combines have an aspirator to suck a significant amount of dust out through the exhaust…….
if you would have read the title for the video, you wouldn't need to call anyone to find out whats going on
You could grow taters in that air filter lol.
clean it out often before for it becomes an issue
So what kind of job are y’all doing in this video?
I have a question, Jeff. In New England, there are stone walls just everywhere from who knows when; I asked about them one time and the response was that as the farmers worked their fields, the stones popped up and were moved to the edges of the field and they built those walls with them. I see where you live, there is the same situation with just enormous amounts of stones popping up in the fields. Do y'all have those random stone walls in some places there like they have in New England?
Yes in NewEngland,my friend in Minnesota piles there rockes up every spring as they appear from frost heaving.
we had equipment we got that much dirt out every day
At a minimum, we blow our outer filters out each friday. I replace inner 1 time per year.
Good thing it wasn't the dpf
Just start hauling that rock down to Nebraska so I can crush it and retire in two months thanks
First thing Ide do is extend that air pipe up about five or six foot up out of harms way! that air filter you have there doesnt appear to have any kind of a pre cleaner on it??!
look into sy-klone prefilters alot of manufacturers run them
Aircon filltes must be full to .every day blow out in all filters in that dust . Lot of rocks ..portable jaw crusher be good .hv fun
Instead of waiting until it's completely "Plugged" , why not just clean IT at the end of each week of work ?????
Cat make a demo air cleaner
Turbo 2 pre cleaner
A damn guage fir air filter? Why dontvhe just check it from time to time smh!!! It's sad yiur son gets it get that bad!!
There's no restriction gauge
Although it’s putting money in your pocket, that’s got to be an expensive way to get more plantable land! Too bad the rock can’t be sold for gabion.
Turbo II pre cleaner
And blow filter and radiator out every Friday
Surprised your operator doesn’t blow air filter out daily
Get a linde forklift spinner they grab a ton of dirt before it brings it to the filter