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Great job btw . I would have said eating a baby is same as eating nails or mouth saliva... The difference is larger materials or cells clustered together from your body. Many animals do that we don't do it now that's all.
it was a fallacy to say 'slice a baby into pieces and eat it isn't wrong, right?' because the guy position is 'there is no right or wrong', which means that If I say 'Yes' to the question that it's not wrong, this won't make it 'right', it's both not 'objectively right nor wrong', so the right answer is 'Yes, it's not wrong, and not right either', so is it okay to eat a baby objectively after slicing it? Yes, it's neither wrong or RIGHT, but subjectively it is.. (for me & my group of secular humanists and westerners) and those examples are just absurd, because you may ask me the question ' so it's okay to take care of your wife ? ' and my answer would also be like it's not 'right or wrong' objectively but subjectively it is .. This will take you to how to know what's good or bad for us as humans (without this objective ruling) and again we'll go to the laws that somehow translates our moral codes And Good & Bad are not objective and you admit it anyways in the beggining (in our worldview), so you should ask what's good & bad for seculars societies ? like the chinese or european or americans ? when they try to explain what's 'good' they never use objective terms, Good is what makes society moving with less problems and everyone live peacefully, which is a pragmatic definition not a mathematical definition, it's not either 1 or 0 And the absurduty of your question can be more visible in this scenario, imagine your have a worldview of only 'red or yellow' things, and you point out at something 'green' and ask me, 'is it red ?' and I say, no it's not, therefore you conclude it's then 'yellow', this is a clear misconception here 20:12
He was very impatient easily triggered. For normal cases all laws are done. But there are new cases n discoveries that needs rethinking n not clearly stated in the Quran Hadiths. A new guide like how do you pray n fast in space. How do you determine the time n kiblah, With advance in science there will more space travel.
@@RizmaLaban His open the camera condition is not acceptable. If he relaxes it for some really well behaved mulhideens and murtideens then either I or someone from my team is definitely willing to talk to him.
I'm glad I could never settle on being atheist, I was agnostic coming out of Christianity and realized that my exact idea of God is what Islam explain, Alhamdulilah.
Arrogance is intolerance of people who believe different from yourself because you believe you are the only one who ist right, so who is the arrogant one?
@MsAaprill I dont believe, I know Islam is the truth, because there are clear evidences for it being so. We also believe people are free to believe in and follow what they want. However, if youre going to come on and have a debate about Islamic morals, whilst pushing the idea that there is no right and wrong and stating that doing vile things is not actually wrong, whilst rejecting basic facts, then yes that makes you a hypocrite and arrogant. Arrogance is not 'intolerance of people who believe differently'. Many people think men can be women, and women can be men, or that you can be neither or both. That is not true, and I reject it and I dont tolerate the idea. Does that make me arrogant? No. It means I humbly accept the truth and the reality that is presented to me by God. Arrogance is rejecting the truth even when it is clearly placed in front of you, when you realise the arguments youre making dont make sense but still continue to beat down on them, when you put your own opinions and thoughts above the truth and above God.
This guy was ashamed of what he said at the end and you can see it in his face. Maybe it's a wake-up call for him. May Allah guide him and keep us on the right path.
The stronger someone believes in atheism, the more arrogant they might be. On the other hand, the more you follow Islam, the more humble you tend to become.
Religious people tend to believe they are better than and more moral than non religious people ( read the comments if you need proof of that). Out of ALL the religions you believe yours is the only true one and all the others are wrong and all the other gods don’t exist . That’s quite arrogant don’t you think?
@@matthenley3886 Arrogance is having delusions about your status. So if a Muslims believes their religion is morally superior to other, it is fact not arrogance. The central concept in Islam is moral supremacy. Judaism is about racial supremacy. Capitalism is about financial supremacy. Etc. Laws are decided by the rich.
@@matthenley3886 Muslims don't think they are better than others, but they do believe that Islam is the true religion. They see Islam as having the highest moral teachings. Islam provides detailed guidance on all aspects of life, from personal behavior to family and societal relationships, and even governance. It offers advice for every stage of life, from birth to death. Islamic teachings on these matters are detailed in books on Islamic jurisprudence, which cover everything one might encounter in life. These teachings are comprehensive and not found in any other religious books to this extent. Therefore, the beliefs in Islam can be clearly seen and understood, unlike in some other religions like Hinduism, Christianity, Judaism, or Buddhism.
@@matthenley3886 For example, consider how different religions handle divorce. In Christianity, Catholicism, Hinduism, and Buddhism, the rules about divorce according to their holy books are not clear, so they often have to rely on secular, or non-religious, laws made by people. In contrast, Islam provides clear guidelines for divorce. It covers who gets custody of the children, who should pay child support, and the rights of both parents and children. It even outlines who should keep the house. All of this is explained in detail in Islamic teachings. I encourage you to be open-minded and learn about Islam. Many atheists struggle to embrace religion because they still hold a Christian perspective, finding it nonsensical, which I understand. I suggest reading the Quran and the Seerah of Muhammad (peace be upon him), as well as books on Islamic jurisprudence, to get a better understanding.
@@adnaancassiem2856A karen is a nickname typically given to women who are entitled to anything that doesn't satisfy them, they get mad about anything that it isn't in their preferred way. Sometimes people call men karen as well😂
He literally said *YES* about the question of his Mom 😮 and that’s the people who are trying to educate us (non western world) about morality and ethics 🤦♂️. There you go… your progressive Western culture in a nutshell!!
When you have no objective morality in the society anything can go. Bringing up Mao and Stalin who were atheists was smart. Between those two countries more than 100 million people died during wars, famines and purges. It was horrendous.
@@MHiggins Mao believed he was doing things for ""the greater good"", that the country would benefit in the end even if tens and tens of millions had to die so he could industrialize the nation as fast as possible.
@@ramunasstulga8264 How about evaluating if these teachings never existed, how animalistic and primordial humans would be without divine guidance? It's a hypothetical, but without religion telling humanity to conduct themselves, humans would ALWAYS commit to actions that were most beneficial to them. The atheist in this video made it clear that if he were socially conditioned to believe having incestuous intercourse is permissible, then there is nothing stopping him from doing it. The "harm principle" which is advocated by so many people who take agnostic/atheistic worldview would not have come to this conclusion if it wasn't for religious guidance, and this is after so many millennia to come to such a conclusion backed up by the fact that this is what most religions espoused to begin with, what would've happened for 100s of thousands of years if that wasn't the case even up until now? I swear this is the dumbest argument. Wars and atrocities didn't happen because of religion, it happened because of self-gain and misusing religion as a tool for that self-gain.
I am absolutely amazed how Brother Muhammad cornered the atheist guy with the last question. That was brilliant and the atheist Guy kept digging his grave deeper and deeper.
Let a atheist talk about his “morality” and see how fast he comes to the most extreme inconsistencies and horrific consequences of its subjective judgment.
After I have read the Quran, I realized that all what humanity needs is this heavenly law. “The legislation of Quran will spread all over the world, because it agrees with the mind, logic and wisdom.” - Leo Tolstoy .
@@AJ-pc9gu Unfortunately you haven't studied Leo Tolstoy. Most of you have never heard of him before because you don't know history. It's all about studying.
@@JesusisaMuslim lol I read anna karenina last month and am aware he had some correspondence with a tatar. Why do you assume so much incorrectly? Quran 49:12
That last incest part was very disturbing from Max.... May Allah guide us and keep us on Islam to prevent us from getting into this confusion and lostness.
But the atheist is right. If humanity were to follow their most base desires, many would act upon it if it wasn't for an innately divine connection. Incest is commonplace in many animals. Many good Muslims have homosexual feelings and repress them because they know it is not right, and there are many who cannot stop the temptation so in shaa Allah God has mercy on them for other good deeds they may commit. Men and women don't cheat because they know it is not right, but that doesn't mean a base desire doesn't exist for them to do it. There are many humans who act upon many other disgusting things such as bestiality, if there wasn't a societal stipulation (which has mostly been given due to the fact we have a fitra and divine guidance) that it's disgusting, you would see many more people who would act upon such things. There are base desires that YOU YOURSELF have to repress for the good of yourself, your soul, and society, and because it has been commanded by God. God has given everyone base desires to repress, aoo'dhubillah and may God give you patience and mercy if you have even more devious ones.
@@ItsJustZeeBTWi beg to differ on what you said as our base desire as humans. You said that many good muslims have tendency towards homosexuality and bestiality. That it is their basic desire. Just like animals do. How do you get this? That is NOT human's base desire. Not at all. That is corruptions and that can happen only when one is exposed to that kind of immoral acts. Also human and animals are different. Where in the Quran says that we are the same as animals? Animals have instinct to procreate like we do but they cannot distinguish right from wrong. Also even animals will NOT naturally choose to mate with its own kin. Most of the cases of inbreeding occurs for animals in captivity or when they do not have other options like facing extinction. For example, lions. Male lion when they reached the age of maturity will be forced to leave the pact. This is fitrah. When one have desire to do those things (homosexual etc) they are going against the fitrah. Against their basic desire. They only have this weird thoughts because of exposures & because they are being manipulated by satan.
The Atheist did come strong at the beginning, but after some explanation, he seemed to come around at the end. I hope Allah guides him because he seems sincere.
"And they say, "There is not but our worldly life; we die and live, and nothing destroys us except time." And they have of that no knowledge; they are only assuming." Al-Jathiyah 24
"Have you seen he who has taken as his god his [own] desire, and Allāh has sent him astray due to knowledge1 and has set a seal upon his hearing and his heart and put over his vision a veil? So who will guide him after Allāh? Then will you not be reminded?" Al-Jathiyah 23
Its’s always a pleasure to watch an atheist start off strong and with an arrogant disposition but then when questioned about their belief or viewpoint regarding their subjective morals they tend to fizzle
Naah its just what happens when falsehood is challenged so eloquently with truth. He was sadly squirming and being somewhat facetious at times to soften the blows given by Mohammed ma-sha-Allah (As God wills)❤
@@Shabs2456 Bro he asked a question and while MA was answering he started to flip his head and frown like as if someone trying to start a fight with him which pathetic to be honest.
Nope. He only argued that he doesn’t see things as ‘right or wrong’ but rather bases things on cause and effect. Did he condone that action? Nope. He said you could do it in a country where it was legal ( if you wanted) but that there would still be social repercussions I.E people would come and find you.
@@Khalid-Haji You’re trying to imply that he condoned it in some way but he didn’t. If there were no social consequences or repercussions for any action imaginable then yes you could in theory commit any action you wanted, however for certain actions ( like the one mentioned) there will always be repercussions so it’s a stupid point.
@@Khalid-Haji Essentially he said that there would always be repercussions for that action. So you saying ‘ in other words if there weren’t any then you could do it’ is meaningless’ since *he didn’t even acknowledge the possibility of that situation* . You’re being disingenuous
@@matthenley3886 so theres nothing wrong with the main comment. You were just upset, because he gave an example that's clearly bad from society stand point. But the point still stand. As long as theres no repercussions, you can do basically anything, is what he is saying.
Bro you are destroyed the atheist mindset in seconds that was crazy, he was speechless after that 😂😂 It is always good to see open minded and casual discussion like these with respect to each other!
The saddest thing, they think they have better morals than Muslims. He literally said he probably would sleep with his mother if she was his type 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Nice one Max for not letting your anger and irritation get the better of you, by remaining calm we all enjoyed the flow of the conversation, hats off to MA he has such good manners. May Allah guide us and keep us steadfast on His religion Islam, the alternatives would be soul destroying, literally
@@prodes1249 Hey may be honest. But no man with common sense would utter these words unless he just want to defend his argument so he doesn't seem hypocrite. I just wish he can reflect on what he said and give it a thought and may Allah guide him
"I will turn away from My signs those who act unjustly with arrogance in the land. And even if they were to see every sign, they still would not believe in them. If they see the Right Path, they will not take it. But if they see a crooked path, they will follow it. This is because they denied Our signs and were heedless of them." Quran (7-146)
damn.. this was such a clean argument by ML.. showing how atheism is a lose lose situation, and how dumb to back it up.. making connection between atheism and distopia, and leave viewers with same position with a gift of thoughts.. for those with intelligent and atheism position, your best bet is theism(and best of them is Monotheism, and best of them/actually the only one is islam), for you and everyone you care about. well done, well done.. you are a very very good Da'i, may allah bless you with more knowledge and firdaws
How disgusting he is thinking about his mom with this way and laughed saying that his mother isn't his type. His mum must be so embarrassed and ashamed of her son
Watch the atheists forehead. Body language is everything, eveytime our brother answers a question with eloquence and fluidity, the atheist gets loud and his forehead creases 😅
I see lots of beneficial knowledge from this discussion (hence you picked and uploaded this one). Jazakallah, may ﷲ preserve and increase your knowledge
Good questions posed by Max the Atheist. Good study material for Muslims. Mohammed, brother, advising to prepare better for such questions, so that we get better understanding from learned people like you. JazakAllah
That's funny, there's no right and wrong or good and bad, but when you give him a scenario and ask him, he immediately be like I would arrest you even if you're on different country in which such action is legal..and he even go so far as to get his country to wage war to against it 😂
This very reason is making israel a hero in the eyes of such people!! "Hamas got what it deserved" not seeing at general public being un alived, or even thinking children are all terrorist. This is their morality 😐
one thing i like about the muslim lantern is that he vibrates at the same frequency as his guests, and allows them all freedom to speak their mind and keeps honesty at upmost front. thanks to u, Alhamdulillah... and my prayers are with u
His actions and anger remind me of this verse {Do you not consider how We unleash the devils on the unbelievers, inciting them with incitement} 19:83 ALHAMDULLILAH FOR ISLAM MAY ALLAH GUIDE HIM
I legitimately don’t understand why he was getting so mad and butthurt the whole time. Ask, listen to the full answer and don’t interrupt until he’s done. Then talk all you want. How difficult is that? mo nailed it, in every atheist video the atheist always gets upset and starts shouting for no reason😭 why do they always do that? Your life is meaningless and you choose to be mad of all possibilities?
@@badroboudjerda4394Lantern himself would say that no Muslim is perfect and all Muslims Sin, so how are you concluding that religious people are more moral than atheists?
@@jojos9788 There’s a popular Muslim preacher called Muhammed Hoblos who said that missing prayer is worse than r@ping children, murdering and dealing drugs *COMBINED* . As much as you wish it were true, religious people don’t have a monopoly on morality.
@@matthenley3886and how exactly do you differentiate between a ‘bigger’ vs a ‘lesser’ sin may I ask? Muslims base their morality on the Quran and the Hadiths and if there’s evidence from the religion that if someone misses one of the 5 daily prayers it’s more repulsive than sexually assaulting a child then Muslims have to agree upon the severity of missing their prayers…however atheism doesn’t even have a ground to stand upon to differentiate good vs evil…good vs evil for atheists is what they were socially conditioned to believe in
Very informative and it was a good exchange I wish it was much longer though. My opinion is Muhammad Ali came like a shining star The Atheist guy did not have much to say he even fumbled few times
"Convince me', he said while smirking. All Muslims : "Not every one will get Hidayah. Not up to you. Sorry." Some people will always be "covered" / "closed" (I don't know the correct English word).
People will get the truth But not all of them will follow it Some will choose not to believe in it despite knowing it's the truth That's what it means Not your twisted version
I think the guest noticed the issue with athiesm, and did fear it at the end, but he asked good questions and as usual mohamed knows the answers very well for these questions
The arrogance of an athiest is his badge of dishonor. He clearly does not want to understand anything. He just wants to poke his finger into your chest & say "I am right, you are wrong!".
These people come on and willingly admit that chopping up and eating a baby and having intercourse with your own mother is not morally wrong and even that in certain environments they may do it themselves. But have the audacity to question and argue against Islamic morals. SubhanAllah.
Whats amazing about these discussions is the more islam is challenged, the stronger and more rational it actually looks. Not everybody will accept it, but at least the positions become clear.
The only thing i loved about this interaction was how respectful it was. Max got frustrated a couple of time but you see how soon he smiles or realizes that he made a mistake by interrupting Muhammed, and especially brother Muhammed's ability to turn a heated interaction into a laughing conversation is truly amazing. Lastly, the compliments in the end from both parties won by heart.
He smiles because Muhammad was smart enough to see through his deception. Has nothing to do with admitting he was wrong. His arsenal had low quality weaponry.
The Godfather 1 The Godfather 2 The Godfather 3 Atheist "is the Godfather 3 the final one"? Muslim "Yes" Atheist " what are those books behind you"? Muslim " they are commentaries and analysis of the 3 Godfathers movies" Atheist " so how can The Godfather 3 be the last movie"? Muslim " 🥱😒🥱😒🥱😒🥱😒" Why is the modern human so disingenuous, do they listen to themselves when they ask such disingenuous questions. 20:31 is the mask off moment for the Atheist. UNBELIEVABLE! I can not believe these people think they are more righteous than religious people. Absolute lunacy!
It is always the same, they get so emeotionell and changing subject and missunderstanding.... Iam so mimpressed by your patiance!! May Allah bless you for your good work!!
This was EPIC!!!’ I’m so proud of you bro. Mashallah Allah has blessed you with immense knowledge and great patience and etiquettes! Your videos are truly inspiring!
Correction regarding the Hanafi school position, i was referring to the need of a Wali in the marriage ceremony and just noticed i incorrectly said 2 witnesses instead.
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Great job btw .
I would have said eating a baby is same as eating nails or mouth saliva...
The difference is larger materials or cells clustered together from your body.
Many animals do that we don't do it now that's all.
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it was a fallacy to say 'slice a baby into pieces and eat it isn't wrong, right?' because the guy position is 'there is no right or wrong', which means that If I say 'Yes' to the question that it's not wrong, this won't make it 'right', it's both not 'objectively right nor wrong', so the right answer is 'Yes, it's not wrong, and not right either', so is it okay to eat a baby objectively after slicing it? Yes, it's neither wrong or RIGHT, but subjectively it is.. (for me & my group of secular humanists and westerners)
and those examples are just absurd, because you may ask me the question ' so it's okay to take care of your wife ? ' and my answer would also be like it's not 'right or wrong' objectively but subjectively it is ..
This will take you to how to know what's good or bad for us as humans (without this objective ruling) and again we'll go to the laws that somehow translates our moral codes
And Good & Bad are not objective and you admit it anyways in the beggining (in our worldview), so you should ask what's good & bad for seculars societies ? like the chinese or european or americans ? when they try to explain what's 'good' they never use objective terms, Good is what makes society moving with less problems and everyone live peacefully, which is a pragmatic definition not a mathematical definition, it's not either 1 or 0
And the absurduty of your question can be more visible in this scenario, imagine your have a worldview of only 'red or yellow' things, and you point out at something 'green' and ask me, 'is it red ?' and I say, no it's not, therefore you conclude it's then 'yellow', this is a clear misconception here 20:12
He was very impatient easily triggered.
For normal cases all laws are done. But there are new cases n discoveries that needs rethinking n not clearly stated in the Quran Hadiths. A new guide like how do you pray n fast in space. How do you determine the time n kiblah, With advance in science there will more space travel.
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Atheism will never get on top of Islam in any discussion with any person.
I would not say with any person as you need knowledgeable person to have that effect like our brother here who knows both sides well enough
@@sunset2.00 true but you can easily disprove a man brelif Islam is a religion of God
You haven't heard some real good objections to Islam or theism in general. You might want to give us a listen.
@@UnveilingFaithif you have a better arguement than speak with him when he goes live and prove otherwise brother.
@@RizmaLaban His open the camera condition is not acceptable. If he relaxes it for some really well behaved mulhideens and murtideens then either I or someone from my team is definitely willing to talk to him.
I'm glad I could never settle on being atheist, I was agnostic coming out of Christianity and realized that my exact idea of God is what Islam explain, Alhamdulilah.
Alhamdulillah ❤
It was pretty haunting discovering Islam because every question I had was answered, Alhamdulilah@@rebeccab4560
Alhamdulillah
Alhamdulillah may Allah make everything easy for all of us.
subhanallah! same here, i was looking for rigidity and guidance and after six years i reverted.
People like this would rather continue to humiliate themselves than accept the truth. May Allah protect us from such arrogance.
@user-tuppsot May Allah guide you, you are laughing at yourself.
Ameen
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Arrogance is intolerance of people who believe different from yourself because you believe you are the only one who ist right, so who is the arrogant one?
@MsAaprill I dont believe, I know Islam is the truth, because there are clear evidences for it being so. We also believe people are free to believe in and follow what they want. However, if youre going to come on and have a debate about Islamic morals, whilst pushing the idea that there is no right and wrong and stating that doing vile things is not actually wrong, whilst rejecting basic facts, then yes that makes you a hypocrite and arrogant. Arrogance is not 'intolerance of people who believe differently'. Many people think men can be women, and women can be men, or that you can be neither or both. That is not true, and I reject it and I dont tolerate the idea. Does that make me arrogant? No. It means I humbly accept the truth and the reality that is presented to me by God. Arrogance is rejecting the truth even when it is clearly placed in front of you, when you realise the arguments youre making dont make sense but still continue to beat down on them, when you put your own opinions and thoughts above the truth and above God.
This guy was ashamed of what he said at the end and you can see it in his face. Maybe it's a wake-up call for him. May Allah guide him and keep us on the right path.
Aameen
Yes he was very appreciative in the end. May Allah guide him
@@scriptkiddie1614 true
100% agree with you
Ameen
ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّٰهِ
Islam has saved us from this degeneracy
It also saves us from depression because it is the opposite of atheism, which the brother points out....leads to the belief that life is meaningless
The stronger someone believes in atheism, the more arrogant they might be. On the other hand, the more you follow Islam, the more humble you tend to become.
Religious people tend to believe they are better than and more moral than non religious people ( read the comments if you need proof of that). Out of ALL the religions you believe yours is the only true one and all the others are wrong and all the other gods don’t exist . That’s quite arrogant don’t you think?
@@matthenley3886
Arrogance is having delusions about your status.
So if a Muslims believes their religion is morally superior to other, it is fact not arrogance.
The central concept in Islam is moral supremacy.
Judaism is about racial supremacy.
Capitalism is about financial supremacy. Etc. Laws are decided by the rich.
It’s more arrogant to reject the Truth when it’s shown so plainly before you.
@@matthenley3886 Muslims don't think they are better than others, but they do believe that Islam is the true religion. They see Islam as having the highest moral teachings. Islam provides detailed guidance on all aspects of life, from personal behavior to family and societal relationships, and even governance. It offers advice for every stage of life, from birth to death. Islamic teachings on these matters are detailed in books on Islamic jurisprudence, which cover everything one might encounter in life. These teachings are comprehensive and not found in any other religious books to this extent. Therefore, the beliefs in Islam can be clearly seen and understood, unlike in some other religions like Hinduism, Christianity, Judaism, or Buddhism.
@@matthenley3886 For example, consider how different religions handle divorce. In Christianity, Catholicism, Hinduism, and Buddhism, the rules about divorce according to their holy books are not clear, so they often have to rely on secular, or non-religious, laws made by people. In contrast, Islam provides clear guidelines for divorce. It covers who gets custody of the children, who should pay child support, and the rights of both parents and children. It even outlines who should keep the house. All of this is explained in detail in Islamic teachings.
I encourage you to be open-minded and learn about Islam. Many atheists struggle to embrace religion because they still hold a Christian perspective, finding it nonsensical, which I understand. I suggest reading the Quran and the Seerah of Muhammad (peace be upon him), as well as books on Islamic jurisprudence, to get a better understanding.
The Karen in him is trying to escape😂
Well at least he was trying his hardest. Too bad for him, this is the natural reaction of atheism.
Grizzle what is a karen. Please educate me.
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@@adnaancassiem2856A karen is a nickname typically given to women who are entitled to anything that doesn't satisfy them, they get mad about anything that it isn't in their preferred way. Sometimes people call men karen as well😂
Thsnkyou guys for educating me. Lol
He literally said *YES* about the question of his Mom 😮 and that’s the people who are trying to educate us (non western world) about morality and ethics 🤦♂️.
There you go… your progressive Western culture in a nutshell!!
When you have no objective morality in the society anything can go. Bringing up Mao and Stalin who were atheists was smart. Between those two countries more than 100 million people died during wars, famines and purges. It was horrendous.
@@MHiggins evaluate how many people were killed for disbelieving their religion
@@MHiggins Mao believed he was doing things for ""the greater good"", that the country would benefit in the end even if tens and tens of millions had to die so he could industrialize the nation as fast as possible.
@@ramunasstulga8264 How about evaluating if these teachings never existed, how animalistic and primordial humans would be without divine guidance? It's a hypothetical, but without religion telling humanity to conduct themselves, humans would ALWAYS commit to actions that were most beneficial to them. The atheist in this video made it clear that if he were socially conditioned to believe having incestuous intercourse is permissible, then there is nothing stopping him from doing it. The "harm principle" which is advocated by so many people who take agnostic/atheistic worldview would not have come to this conclusion if it wasn't for religious guidance, and this is after so many millennia to come to such a conclusion backed up by the fact that this is what most religions espoused to begin with, what would've happened for 100s of thousands of years if that wasn't the case even up until now? I swear this is the dumbest argument. Wars and atrocities didn't happen because of religion, it happened because of self-gain and misusing religion as a tool for that self-gain.
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Pray 5 times guys , and please read the Quran with tafseer ponder on it, follow it to the best of your abilities proud of brother Muhammad.
@@HamadAl-zb2puso cute ma Shaa Allah for your reponse🍓🍒⚘
@@sarahqamar6377what did i miss
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Yes it is very important to understand the Quran ayah and not just blindly read it. May Allah grant us His wisdom in understanding the Quran
I am absolutely amazed how Brother Muhammad cornered the atheist guy with the last question. That was brilliant and the atheist Guy kept digging his grave deeper and deeper.
He's confused between guidance and revelation 🤣 And he got heated.
😂😂😂
Yeah, I was surprise when he asked that question..
Heeeh.. and I frown my face tried to understand his point of view.. 😅
He may not know the difference between those two.
He is learning insha allah he will know more
I don't think he fully grasp what revelation entails.
This atheist thinks he’s some brilliant knowledgeable scholar but in reality most of the points Muslim lantern said flew over his head
He understood them. He was being deceptive.
Yeah a lot of the questions he asked later were actually already answered previously but it seems he failed to pick up on them.
Cuz he don't speak English
Arrogant
It’s always the atheist that loses his mind after answering them logically 😂
😂😂😂
Yet he said at the beginning that atheism is humbling…
He also said it is Insightful even.
exactly
Because they're used to weak Christian arguments
A consistent atheist is the best case to expose the absurdity of this position
Let a atheist talk about his “morality” and see how fast he comes to the most extreme inconsistencies and horrific consequences of its subjective judgment.
Exactly 🤢
After I have read the Quran, I realized that all what humanity needs is this heavenly law. “The legislation of Quran will spread all over the world, because it agrees with the mind, logic and wisdom.” - Leo Tolstoy
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MashaAllah I am surprised to find you commenting on almost all Dawah contents . What you are doing is really great .
bro I like what you're doing but that quotation has been consistently and falsely attributed by you
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Unfortunately you haven't studied Leo Tolstoy. Most of you have never heard of him before because you don't know history. It's all about studying.
@@JesusisaMuslim lol I read anna karenina last month and am aware he had some correspondence with a tatar. Why do you assume so much incorrectly? Quran 49:12
That last incest part was very disturbing from Max.... May Allah guide us and keep us on Islam to prevent us from getting into this confusion and lostness.
But the atheist is right. If humanity were to follow their most base desires, many would act upon it if it wasn't for an innately divine connection. Incest is commonplace in many animals. Many good Muslims have homosexual feelings and repress them because they know it is not right, and there are many who cannot stop the temptation so in shaa Allah God has mercy on them for other good deeds they may commit. Men and women don't cheat because they know it is not right, but that doesn't mean a base desire doesn't exist for them to do it. There are many humans who act upon many other disgusting things such as bestiality, if there wasn't a societal stipulation (which has mostly been given due to the fact we have a fitra and divine guidance) that it's disgusting, you would see many more people who would act upon such things. There are base desires that YOU YOURSELF have to repress for the good of yourself, your soul, and society, and because it has been commanded by God. God has given everyone base desires to repress, aoo'dhubillah and may God give you patience and mercy if you have even more devious ones.
@@ItsJustZeeBTWi beg to differ on what you said as our base desire as humans. You said that many good muslims have tendency towards homosexuality and bestiality. That it is their basic desire. Just like animals do. How do you get this? That is NOT human's base desire. Not at all. That is corruptions and that can happen only when one is exposed to that kind of immoral acts. Also human and animals are different. Where in the Quran says that we are the same as animals? Animals have instinct to procreate like we do but they cannot distinguish right from wrong. Also even animals will NOT naturally choose to mate with its own kin. Most of the cases of inbreeding occurs for animals in captivity or when they do not have other options like facing extinction. For example, lions. Male lion when they reached the age of maturity will be forced to leave the pact. This is fitrah. When one have desire to do those things (homosexual etc) they are going against the fitrah. Against their basic desire. They only have this weird thoughts because of exposures & because they are being manipulated by satan.
his heart knows islam is the truth but his arrogance will be something he must overcome to avoid the fire
In the end you can see him humbled,he realised maybe atheism is not something you should be proud of.
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what is the small ps?
Allahuma Ameen
@@salty9133 the flag emoji isnt loaded for you
Alhamdulillah. A new video 🙌, comment to boost the video to more people 👍
This atheist is a pro at picking up lines that weren't there
He already has a position and he wants to fit the discussion in that position no matter what.
I see Muslim Lantern, I click
I watch the video, I learn
I want to support, I like and comment
Alhamdulilah, it's always a step forward for non Muslims to at least ask the questions. This is the best place to come.
Thanks
may allah grant u jannah al firdaws 🤗
Thanks to you too brother
Such an eloquent way to describe information about Islam.
The Atheist did come strong at the beginning, but after some explanation, he seemed to come around at the end. I hope Allah guides him because he seems sincere.
"And they say, "There is not but our worldly life; we die and live, and nothing destroys us except time." And they have of that no knowledge; they are only assuming." Al-Jathiyah 24
When pushed and prodded, atheism falls flat on its face
This poor man is in pain. You can see the frustration. May Allah guide him.
His haircut is pain in itself. Just accept he's going bald.
"Have you seen he who has taken as his god his [own] desire, and Allāh has sent him astray due to knowledge1 and has set a seal upon his hearing and his heart and put over his vision a veil? So who will guide him after Allāh? Then will you not be reminded?" Al-Jathiyah 23
Jazakhallahu Khairan.
What this atheist just admitted would be ok to do is beyond disgusting
The bit about eating children? He didn’t justify it so why are you trying to imply that?
@@matthenley3886no, the bit about his mom being his type. Disgusting.
@@juggurnott You do realise he was joking?
@@matthenley3886 he wasn't joking. And he clearly said that it's not morally wrong to eat the baby, whether he justified it or not is irrelevant.
@@ha.alamin He pretty much said a country might start a war over that. So how did you conclude that he said it wasn’t morally wrong?
Its’s always a pleasure to watch an atheist start off strong and with an arrogant disposition but then when questioned about their belief or viewpoint regarding their subjective morals they tend to fizzle
I think the message got through to him, he was in deep thoughts. Nice guy, twisted ideas. May Allah guide him and us all.
Keep remember him in your prayers
إِنْ شَاءَ ٱللَّٰهُ
Thanks!
You are an inspiration for the whole Ummah, May Allah bless you
Fair play he mentioned a Muslim invented Algebra at the end, so he has knowledge of the Islamic Golden Age. May Allah guide him insha'Allah.
Hi I miss u Muhammad Ali I love for the sake of ALLAH and His Beloved prophet Muhammad (saw) .I wish u SALAM from the Gambia West Africa.
I love you too brother
@@UmarKhan-qo6hdI love you three brother for the sake of Allah
Alhamdulillah for Islam
This guy has a bad temper
Seems like he’s sitting on a jalapeño
Naah its just what happens when falsehood is challenged so eloquently with truth. He was sadly squirming and being somewhat facetious at times to soften the blows given by Mohammed ma-sha-Allah (As God wills)❤
😂😂😂
👏👏🤣🤣🤣 a very hot jalapeno
He is trying to understand, stop being ……he is polite, MA needs to tone down a bit and respect that this man is seeking answers to his puzzlements.
@@Shabs2456 Bro he asked a question and while MA was answering he started to flip his head and frown like as if someone trying to start a fight with him which pathetic to be honest.
In other words, “if there is no social consequences, you can put your kid in an oven, cook and eat as a breakfast” 🤦♂️
Nope. He only argued that he doesn’t see things as ‘right or wrong’ but rather bases things on cause and effect. Did he condone that action? Nope. He said you could do it in a country where it was legal ( if you wanted) but that there would still be social repercussions I.E people would come and find you.
@@matthenley3886 you are trying to sound smart, but you just said what I already said in longer paragraph 🤦♂️
@@Khalid-Haji You’re trying to imply that he condoned it in some way but he didn’t. If there were no social consequences or repercussions for any action imaginable then yes you could in theory commit any action you wanted, however for certain actions ( like the one mentioned) there will always be repercussions so it’s a stupid point.
@@Khalid-Haji Essentially he said that there would always be repercussions for that action. So you saying ‘ in other words if there weren’t any then you could do it’ is meaningless’ since *he didn’t even acknowledge the possibility of that situation* . You’re being disingenuous
@@matthenley3886 so theres nothing wrong with the main comment. You were just upset, because he gave an example that's clearly bad from society stand point.
But the point still stand. As long as theres no repercussions, you can do basically anything, is what he is saying.
See this guy
Dont be this guy
Be Muslim and Sane
Bro you are destroyed the atheist mindset in seconds that was crazy, he was speechless after that 😂😂
It is always good to see open minded and casual discussion like these with respect to each other!
@22:30 I cringed hard. How can he say that and laugh about it. A'udu Billah!
The saddest thing, they think they have better morals than Muslims. He literally said he probably would sleep with his mother if she was his type 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I swear to ALLAH I felt the same cringe 😬
@@MrMudassaranwaraudhubillah😢😢
Nice one Max for not letting your anger and irritation get the better of you, by remaining calm we all enjoyed the flow of the conversation, hats off to MA he has such good manners. May Allah guide us and keep us steadfast on His religion Islam, the alternatives would be soul destroying, literally
Keep making duas for all oppressed all around the world
Always, with all my heart and soul
Alhamdulillah for being guided to the truth and not down this dangerous path. 🤲🏼
✨His mother isn’t his type ✨
22:28 How can someone even say this🤕🤕🤕
Alhamdulillah For islam
Disgusting really
The laugh with MA face like 😐 just killed me of laughter
at least he was honest , no need to mock him
@@prodes1249 Hey may be honest. But no man with common sense would utter these words unless he just want to defend his argument so he doesn't seem hypocrite. I just wish he can reflect on what he said and give it a thought and may Allah guide him
Alhamdulilah for Islam May Allah swt bless you brother Muhammad Ali ❤
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All love from Egypt 🇪🇬❤
THIS….. was a GREAT VIDEO. something so meticulously dissected. May Allah accept from you and allow your work to further spread. Allahumma baarik
"I will turn away from My signs those who act unjustly with arrogance in the land. And even if they were to see every sign, they still would not believe in them. If they see the Right Path, they will not take it. But if they see a crooked path, they will follow it. This is because they denied Our signs and were heedless of them." Quran (7-146)
May Allah bless you, brother Muhammed. Your videos are always interesting to watch and very educational. AllhamdulelAllah.
damn.. this was such a clean argument by ML.. showing how atheism is a lose lose situation, and how dumb to back it up.. making connection between atheism and distopia, and leave viewers with same position with a gift of thoughts.. for those with intelligent and atheism position, your best bet is theism(and best of them is Monotheism, and best of them/actually the only one is islam), for you and everyone you care about.
well done, well done.. you are a very very good Da'i, may allah bless you with more knowledge and firdaws
How disgusting he is thinking about his mom with this way and laughed saying that his mother isn't his type. His mum must be so embarrassed and ashamed of her son
That laugh really made me cringe, and you can see the discomfort in Mohammed Ali's face as well.
This guy 😩😭😂 It came to "Not My Type"
Mohammad is very precise with his words and statements. A very important stand. In medicine and law this is very important.
MashaAllah,may Allah increase brother Muhammad Ali in knowledge and faith, Ameen
You know how logical it would be when someone made you reconsider your birth and your whole life, mashallah brother Muhammad Ali, May Allah bless you
He started smart and asked brilliant questions and got brilliant answers, then from one question the glass crushed.
Max please come to Islam
Watch the atheists forehead. Body language is everything, eveytime our brother answers a question with eloquence and fluidity, the atheist gets loud and his forehead creases 😅
If you read this;
Say "SubhanAllah" 33x
Say "Alhamdulillah" 33x
Say "Allahu akbar" 34x
May Allah reward you.
May Allah guide us to the right path.
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I see lots of beneficial knowledge from this discussion (hence you picked and uploaded this one). Jazakallah, may ﷲ preserve and increase your knowledge
شكرًا
@Question-please وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته
الحمد لله اخي، وفقك الله 🌹
Beautifully explained what is Islamic position and exposed the position of morality and humanity of atheistic position.
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Good questions posed by Max the Atheist. Good study material for Muslims.
Mohammed, brother, advising to prepare better for such questions, so that we get better understanding from learned people like you.
JazakAllah
That's funny, there's no right and wrong or good and bad, but when you give him a scenario and ask him, he immediately be like I would arrest you even if you're on different country in which such action is legal..and he even go so far as to get his country to wage war to against it 😂
That sounds too familiar to me! You invade another country to spread your freedom.
This very reason is making israel a hero in the eyes of such people!!
"Hamas got what it deserved" not seeing at general public being un alived, or even thinking children are all terrorist. This is their morality 😐
The best part of your videos is that you don't involve ego when you talk to people. From the bottom of my heart. May Allah Bless you
He was left so speechless at the end he began to compliment you 😂 May Allah guide that brother
one thing i like about the muslim lantern is that he vibrates at the same frequency as his guests, and allows them all freedom to speak their mind and keeps honesty at upmost front. thanks to u, Alhamdulillah... and my prayers are with u
His actions and anger remind me of this verse
{Do you not consider how We unleash the devils on the unbelievers, inciting them with incitement} 19:83
ALHAMDULLILAH FOR ISLAM MAY ALLAH GUIDE HIM
I legitimately don’t understand why he was getting so mad and butthurt the whole time.
Ask, listen to the full answer and don’t interrupt until he’s done. Then talk all you want. How difficult is that?
mo nailed it, in every atheist video the atheist always gets upset and starts shouting for no reason😭 why do they always do that? Your life is meaningless and you choose to be mad of all possibilities?
last sentence killed me
Yes, Finally! ❤
سؤال محمد كان في الصميم .. وفقك اللـــه سددك اللــه
Morality in Atheism 😂
That's an oxymoron
@@badroboudjerda4394Lantern himself would say that no Muslim is perfect and all Muslims Sin, so how are you concluding that religious people are more moral than atheists?
@@badroboudjerda4394 true lmao
@@jojos9788 There’s a popular Muslim preacher called Muhammed Hoblos who said that missing prayer is worse than r@ping children, murdering and dealing drugs *COMBINED* . As much as you wish it were true, religious people don’t have a monopoly on morality.
@@matthenley3886and how exactly do you differentiate between a ‘bigger’ vs a ‘lesser’ sin may I ask? Muslims base their morality on the Quran and the Hadiths and if there’s evidence from the religion that if someone misses one of the 5 daily prayers it’s more repulsive than sexually assaulting a child then Muslims have to agree upon the severity of missing their prayers…however atheism doesn’t even have a ground to stand upon to differentiate good vs evil…good vs evil for atheists is what they were socially conditioned to believe in
Brother. I am extremely proud of you and the work you do. I’m older than you but I humble myself to say you make me want to be more like you
Bruh this guy for sure is trying to catch Ali on smth. His reaction shows it all 🤐
yeah he got caught big time instead!! i wonder what his mom thinks! probably frantically embrace Islam after watching this
Very informative and it was a good exchange I wish it was much longer though. My opinion is Muhammad Ali came like a shining star The Atheist guy did not have much to say he even fumbled few times
"Convince me', he said while smirking. All Muslims : "Not every one will get Hidayah. Not up to you. Sorry."
Some people will always be "covered" / "closed" (I don't know the correct English word).
People will get the truth
But not all of them will follow it
Some will choose not to believe in it despite knowing it's the truth
That's what it means
Not your twisted version
@@rebeccab4560 what is wrong about islam is the question
Provide a verse or Hadeeth for evidence
We see Muhammed Ali got the last smirk. Muhammed trapped him sooo good to prove a very crucial point
Thanks!
May Allah guide him, he seems like a respectful person regardless of his position
The respect at the end was good to see..
Insh'Allah he rethinks his stance..
I think the guest noticed the issue with athiesm, and did fear it at the end, but he asked good questions and as usual mohamed knows the answers very well for these questions
When this atheist heard the word "no", the jinn qorin inside him wanted to show his existence!😂
😂😂😂😂
Bruh😂😂😂
bro😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
May Allah reward you
The arrogance of an athiest is his badge of dishonor. He clearly does not want to understand anything. He just wants to poke his finger into your chest & say "I am right, you are wrong!".
These people come on and willingly admit that chopping up and eating a baby and having intercourse with your own mother is not morally wrong and even that in certain environments they may do it themselves. But have the audacity to question and argue against Islamic morals. SubhanAllah.
Whats amazing about these discussions is the more islam is challenged, the stronger and more rational it actually looks. Not everybody will accept it, but at least the positions become clear.
بارك الله فيك وجزاك الله خير الجزاء أخي محمد
The only thing i loved about this interaction was how respectful it was. Max got frustrated a couple of time but you see how soon he smiles or realizes that he made a mistake by interrupting Muhammed, and especially brother Muhammed's ability to turn a heated interaction into a laughing conversation is truly amazing.
Lastly, the compliments in the end from both parties won by heart.
He smiles because Muhammad was smart enough to see through his deception. Has nothing to do with admitting he was wrong. His arsenal had low quality weaponry.
The Godfather 1
The Godfather 2
The Godfather 3
Atheist "is the Godfather 3 the final one"?
Muslim "Yes"
Atheist " what are those books behind you"?
Muslim " they are commentaries and analysis of the 3 Godfathers movies"
Atheist " so how can The Godfather 3 be the last movie"?
Muslim " 🥱😒🥱😒🥱😒🥱😒"
Why is the modern human so disingenuous, do they listen to themselves when they ask such disingenuous questions.
20:31 is the mask off moment for the Atheist. UNBELIEVABLE!
I can not believe these people think they are more righteous than religious people. Absolute lunacy!
والله اني احبك في الله يا محمد .. أخلاقك جميلة ، اسلوبك في النقاش والاقناع ماشاء الله perfect .. بارك الله فيك وفي علمك
آمين
This guy is agitated for no reason
Which "guy" though❓️⁉️🤔🤔🤔
@@Joorawon.M.Yousuf who do you think 🥴
@@Joorawon.M.Yousuf the atheist, many of them are very depressed! may Allah guide them.
@Tim-Man007 I wouldn't be asking you if I knew ⁉️‼️🤔👀 But on the other hand you're asking me the same question as if I'm a mind reader ⁉️‼️🧐👀🧐
I remember you streamed this on youtube and the livechats where soo funny.
I'm glad that this man asked these questions because I as a Muslim had the same questions.
فتح الله عليك وزادك من العلم بارك الله فيك
الله يدعو الى الهدى والذين فروا لا يدعون لشيء انت قلت قولا حقا ان الالحاد هو اخطر فكر
It is always the same, they get so emeotionell and changing subject and missunderstanding.... Iam so mimpressed by your patiance!! May Allah bless you for your good work!!
This was EPIC!!!’ I’m so proud of you bro. Mashallah Allah has blessed you with immense knowledge and great patience and etiquettes! Your videos are truly inspiring!
There's so much wisdom we can derive from the life of Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W).