I'll admit I liked the first series of Derek because I was happy to see Gervais doing something different after Life's Too Short. Plus, although he was basically playing himself, Karl Pilkington was excellent and helped offset Gervais' phony sentimentality, which ultimately ruined the show. But the second Karl leaves, the wheels come off and it turns into the worst Robin Williams movie imaginable (Bless him.) It was embarrassingly bad. Cemetery Junction was just forgettable.
the trouble with cemetry junction is all the press people said its from the makers of the office all the time which made people think it would have the same flavour when in fact it was something completely different. however i think that alot of films are misrepresented in the trailers to bring in maximum audiences, the thing is films shouldnt do that because you then attract an audience, its like making the saw films look chick flicky you may get a larger female audience but theyd hate it
The thing is though, i don't think Cemetery Junction was a "comedy" really. It wasn't that the jokes failed, it was there there were no jokes for 90% of the film. Anyway The Office and (to a lesser extent Extras) were brilliant. Hopefully Lifes Too Short continues they're golden tv show streak :)
steph merchant is def not a bigger film geek than kermode...jut sayin gervais, just sayin... "a comedy doesnt have to make you laugh"- kermodes grrat but he really talks some bollocks sometimes- four Lions didnt make him laugh, but he liked it..
Honestly, I never understood Marks 6-laugh-rule. If a comedy makes you laugh only six times, I think it's a bad comedy. I know plenty of movies that aren't comedies, which make me laugh more than 6 times. I mean, a movie is usually approximatelly 100 minutes long... Cutting out a couple of minutes in the end for the credits and stuff would mean, with six laughs, that you laugh once every 15 minutes. How is this acceptable for a comedy?
Dooker Bewitt Obviously it's a personal thing. I can't remember ever laughing at a film in a cinema, even though I laugh quite a lot in conversation. People are wired differently.
MrGeorgFTW You're probably right. I don't know, I can't even tell you if I actually laugh out loud, or if, after a movie, can just tell you how many scenes I found actually funny. Because not every scene you find funny necessarily also makes you laugh. The only time I can really recall laughing like a mad man was when I want to watch "Scott Pilgrim"... Stangely, I was completly alone in the cinema, which makes it even weirder, since you usually don't laugh out loud when you're alone.
calling people nerd as an insult is unnecessary, childish and incredibly ironic when you're explaining Mark Kermode's theories on what makes a good fucking comedy.
You're whinging way more than he is; Kit's being reasonable from where I'm sitting. And actually, Kermode himself is pretty dogmatic about the six-laugh rule. As this is a Ricky Gervais video, have you seen Mark's review of The Invention of Lying? He and Simon spend at least three minutes talking about the number of times Kermode laughed. There's no need for name calling, guys. It's only fucking Cemetery Junction, the exact moment when Gervais' career started to take a nosedive. It's not worth getting upset about. I sometimes forget that I've even seen Cemetery Junction.
***** I literally told you I agreed with your point about the 6 laugh rule lmao. I've been noticing more and more lately that so many problems are a result of people just refusing to listen to each other. Peace
Hmmm...I may take issue with the mighty Mr. Kermode. A hallmark of a god comedy is that it makes you laugh. Of course the term 'comedy' can be pretty elastic. 'Romantic' comedies like Love actually or 50 first dates are not comedies to my mind but are actually soft focused romances with an off kilter slant. They are not funny, and I almost think not designed to be funny but they do adopt a slightly off centre postion. The laugh is as important to the comedy as the scream is to horror.
Never mind "Cemetery Junction" not being as good as "The Exorcist",I would prefer to be actually possessed by a bile spitting,head turning,crucifix fudding demon than have to sit through such a bland,ill conceived pile of tosh ever again!(and I think that "The Office" is a masterpiece!)
It annoys me how much Steve Merchant thinks Mark Kermodes opinion isn't valid because he likes the exorcist. Yet Steve thinks he's better because he was in Movie 43.
Steve Burley I don't suppose he's had much reason to mention him, but check out the review for 'Run For Your Wife', if you're insinuating Dyer has scared him.
Super String Having said, his most recent Dyer review, Vendetta, was lackluster. Many suspect the BBC told Kermode not to upset the new featured cast member on EastEnders. I wouldn't be surprised...
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Mark Kermode and Ricky & Stephen are great.
Yeah Steve you can slag off Mark all you want but at least mark wasn't in Movie 43.
Hahaha Steven Merchant is a weeb. That fits perfectly.
@tom jay it's a joke man. fuck me.
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I laughed out loud at bits of Cemetery Junction. It's probably because I've been tuned into Merchant's and Gervais's wavelength for so long.
Haha, he did a quick turn around..
"Don't knock him, he's a heavy hitter."
Lol.
Literally all I remember from Cemetery Junction this many years on was that it was like the first on screen appearance of Karl Pilkington .
I was in it and never forgotten it. RG was a very good director who finished eveyy day at 4,30 or thereabouts. Whats not to like`?
Cemetery junction was a bit less terrible than Derek. Probs because merchant ups that a bit. Derek is almost an utter nightmare.
I'll admit I liked the first series of Derek because I was happy to see Gervais doing something different after Life's Too Short. Plus, although he was basically playing himself, Karl Pilkington was excellent and helped offset Gervais' phony sentimentality, which ultimately ruined the show. But the second Karl leaves, the wheels come off and it turns into the worst Robin Williams movie imaginable (Bless him.) It was embarrassingly bad. Cemetery Junction was just forgettable.
I thought Derek was decent enough
the trouble with cemetry junction is all the press people said its from the makers of the office all the time which made people think it would have the same flavour when in fact it was something completely different. however i think that alot of films are misrepresented in the trailers to bring in maximum audiences, the thing is films shouldnt do that because you then attract an audience, its like making the saw films look chick flicky you may get a larger female audience but theyd hate it
I thought Ricky was pretty funny in this
Mark Kermode did a cameo on Extras I think they probably all get on alright!
No he didn't.
@@PaulWilliamArnold erm yes he did. It’s during series 2 when he’s discussing When The Whistle Blows on Newsnight
Kenmore hasn't been the same since Danny Dyer slapped him.
The thing is though, i don't think Cemetery Junction was a "comedy" really. It wasn't that the jokes failed, it was there there were no jokes for 90% of the film. Anyway The Office and (to a lesser extent Extras) were brilliant. Hopefully Lifes Too Short continues they're golden tv show streak :)
Merchant. Don't slag The Exorcist off.
The Office and Extras didn't make me laugh, more made me cringe and I regard it as one of the funniest tv shows i've ever watched.
That's what they were focusing on, more intentionally cringe-worthy stuff. It pioneered that sort of humour really.
Also greetings from 2021!
ha when gervais says " i like mark kermode" it really DOES sound like " i like my commode".... funny accent.
@Gallifrey1991
He just doesn't find it to be the all time best though. I can respect that, and I definitely, definitely agree.
@TulseLuper No this is an actual bone fide fact...
steph merchant is def not a bigger film geek than kermode...jut sayin gervais, just sayin... "a comedy doesnt have to make you laugh"- kermodes grrat but he really talks some bollocks sometimes- four Lions didnt make him laugh, but he liked it..
@jimb92 THANK YOU!
Cemetery Junction is pretty good, not that funny but it's more of a drama anyway.
Honestly, I never understood Marks 6-laugh-rule.
If a comedy makes you laugh only six times, I think it's a bad comedy. I know plenty of movies that aren't comedies, which make me laugh more than 6 times.
I mean, a movie is usually approximatelly 100 minutes long... Cutting out a couple of minutes in the end for the credits and stuff would mean, with six laughs, that you laugh once every 15 minutes.
How is this acceptable for a comedy?
Dooker Bewitt Obviously it's a personal thing. I can't remember ever laughing at a film in a cinema, even though I laugh quite a lot in conversation. People are wired differently.
MrGeorgFTW
You're probably right.
I don't know, I can't even tell you if I actually laugh out loud, or if, after a movie, can just tell you how many scenes I found actually funny. Because not every scene you find funny necessarily also makes you laugh.
The only time I can really recall laughing like a mad man was when I want to watch "Scott Pilgrim"... Stangely, I was completly alone in the cinema, which makes it even weirder, since you usually don't laugh out loud when you're alone.
calling people nerd as an insult is unnecessary, childish and incredibly ironic when you're explaining Mark Kermode's theories on what makes a good fucking comedy.
You're whinging way more than he is; Kit's being reasonable from where I'm sitting. And actually, Kermode himself is pretty dogmatic about the six-laugh rule. As this is a Ricky Gervais video, have you seen Mark's review of The Invention of Lying? He and Simon spend at least three minutes talking about the number of times Kermode laughed.
There's no need for name calling, guys. It's only fucking Cemetery Junction, the exact moment when Gervais' career started to take a nosedive. It's not worth getting upset about. I sometimes forget that I've even seen Cemetery Junction.
***** I literally told you I agreed with your point about the 6 laugh rule lmao. I've been noticing more and more lately that so many problems are a result of people just refusing to listen to each other. Peace
@90mv Yeah but I don't think he was trying to be that funny. That said, I find Merchant a lot funnier in general.
Cemetery Junction was shit
This comment was more amusing than anything Gervais has ever said. Well done you XD
Hmmm...I may take issue with the mighty Mr. Kermode. A hallmark of a god comedy is that it makes you laugh. Of course the term 'comedy' can be pretty elastic. 'Romantic' comedies like Love actually or 50 first dates are not comedies to my mind but are actually soft focused romances with an off kilter slant. They are not funny, and I almost think not designed to be funny but they do adopt a slightly off centre postion. The laugh is as important to the comedy as the scream is to horror.
Never mind "Cemetery Junction" not being as good as "The Exorcist",I would prefer to be actually possessed by a bile spitting,head turning,crucifix fudding demon than have to sit through such a bland,ill conceived pile of tosh ever again!(and I think that "The Office" is a masterpiece!)
Wheres this froom?
@JRHartly1984 Or they just have a different opinion. Get over yourself.
zing!
@hippotoast
nope
Yep still not funny. Will the flock kindly return to their Office box sets and continue to lie to themselves.
lol that dont make any sense if ts called a comedy you expect it to be funny
It annoys me how much Steve Merchant thinks Mark Kermodes opinion isn't valid because he likes the exorcist. Yet Steve thinks he's better because he was in Movie 43.
Steve is a comedian.
His humour is usually character based and he’s on the radio.
You can’t take it serious
@weejockpoopongmcplop No, no he's not...
wow gervais wasn't funny there at all
@JRHartly1984 Baaa.
Baa!
Kermode still buttsore from getting a slap in 2011 from Danny Dyer.
Steve Burley Well, that's what Dyer SAID he was going to do.
TulseLuper Sorry but it's what he did do. He didn't get a caution for it. Kermode hasn't mentioned him since.
Steve Burley I don't suppose he's had much reason to mention him, but check out the review for 'Run For Your Wife', if you're insinuating Dyer has scared him.
Super String Having said, his most recent Dyer review, Vendetta, was lackluster. Many suspect the BBC told Kermode not to upset the new featured cast member on EastEnders. I wouldn't be surprised...
It's entirely possible. We are talking about the BBC.