I feel like this is one of those designs that _could_ work as its own thing if it was less of a blatant meshing of parts. Like keep the silhouette and general idea, but make it more distinct instead of quite literally slamming two hull parts together.
Now this is what a hybrid should look like! Everything just flows together, almost to the point where it's hard to tell where the parts from one ship end, and the other begins. Yeah, she was barely able to handle a pair of Valdores, but since they seem to be a replacement for the D'deridex Class, that's actually kinda impressive.
I love the Sovereign class and adore the Akira class and while this kitbash has potential it is very rough and therefore hard to look at. the secondary hull makes a strange curve to include Akiras deflector dish. but the ship has quite a few beautyshot angles which proves the potential in the design. might need a little touch up.
😲oh my gosh... I love this ship.. MSR made wicked , mixes of all the great ships and Akira.. perfect..as Boimler would say '' ooooh'' lol.. Yes at first I saw that too so wasn't sure about that lol... NX.. Akira..lol Oh geez.. I wrote before seeing it, still great ship.. needs more.. lol. Here the Valdore are tough. wow.. like that style.. ouff, nice tactics Admiral.. 😨huh.. eeh ouch.. Still a nice ship but something missing.,, second round was wow , the Valdores took it out easily.. hmm.. 😊🖖
I have to say, as Frankenstein as the ship is, she is a BEAUT (98% is, at least). Btw great vids, wasn't until stumbling onto your vids that I saw how passionate the fanbase is about this game. Well ahead of its time.
In the first fight, with the second Valdore, it looked like they were trying to cloak and you hit them with a volley of Quantum torpedoes at the same time. They had their shields down to cloak. That's why you scored major hull damage to them.
Yeager class will always be my favourite Frankenstein ship, but the transition from the different ships could of been a little smoother, just a thought, but its a good kitbash.
Hey man. Just wanted to say that I love your videos! They remind me of my childhood playing this game for hours on end and loving it. You’ve inspired me to reinstall this game and start playing again. :)
@@RetroBadgerGaming for sure! Question for you. I’m going to download the remastered mod but can you also download other ships that aren’t included in the remaster? Like have multiple mods running at the same time including the remaster?
Holy crap I was surprised how quickly you took out the Invincible when you were playing the Valdore. Ya it was personal when you were up close at the end and unleashed everything lol. Regarding the design...it's rather interesting. I think the design would work if it was literally fleshed out more.
If I'm not mistaken I remember reading that the Invincible was the largest ship the Federation ever made and is one of only a small few that has a designation Fleet carrier / battleship
The Valdor is such a great design and I will forgive Nemesis a lot in return for giving us the Valdor. I've never thought it weak, it was more a demonstration how insane the Scimitar was. I think I'd want to play the Invincible class a bit to decide whether I like it. It looks a little awkward in places but overall I think it's a decent design. I think this might go in the same bucket as the Yeager; a weird but cool member of the "Franken-Fleet" (That is a compliment), and props to the designer for coming up with it.
@@RetroBadgerGaming when I first was using NavPoints in battle, I got comboed by disruptor fire, which usually led to my demise. On another note, if the AI is Cloak Happy, using NavPoint/Orbit Planet can force the AI to decloak as it reacts to a distant target
I think you won as the Federation ship because of a very unfortunate cloaking accident where they cloaked, dropped their shields just to be hit with about 4 Quantum torpedoes.
The Invincible looks really good mixing three ships together and the design works very well. However besides its looks the ship has some problems. Without the Akira's weapons pod the dorsal portion of the ship has only a single phaser array and the ventral section has 3 phaser arrays. While the number of quantum torpedoes that be fired is impressive, the phaser arrays are severely lacking. Adding two phaser arrays along the two catamarans and two small phaser arrays on the sovereigns warp nacelles would greatly increase dorsal firepower and close that gap in its dorsal firing arc. Add phaser arrays on the ventral nacelles of the sovereigns hull with a array on the bottom of each warp nacelle and the phaser arrays give true 360 degree firing. Also the ship seems to be pretty slow considering it has at minimum 6 impulse engines and looks like two additional ones under the catamarans. that many impulse engines this ship should be cooking on speed but seems no faster than a sovereign with it's two massive impulse engines.
3:00 What would be the point if they don't include the torpedo pod of the Akira-class? I would test this design against the Sovereign-class to see how much of an improvement it really is.
Oof. That's a bit kluged. The concept is actually quite interesting of having the Akira's pylons flow into the nacelles with the secondary hull pylons. However, you'd have to get into the vertices and new textures.
STO isnt canon. You are destroying dozens of borg ships with your starter Miranda Class in the very first mission. The movie makers and show runners make the ships as strong as they need to be for telling the story. Voyager did amazing when it really shouldnt for example. They even fought a tactical borg cube. lol. Major plot armor. I think the Valdores were intended to be "strong" and modern "top of the line" ships in the movie. They were there to show how strong the Scimitar really was. Taking those two ships out in a few minutes and almost totally disabling Enterprise (Shinzon did not want to destroy the Enterprise initially).
@Gentleman...Driver and there's t6 versions also, hell they've got a t6 tos Connie lol....everything is weak or strong bases off what the story calls for.
Looks like it just has too much mass slowing down it's turn rate... and then on top of that it loses out on what makes both ships good, for instance the maneuverability and power of the Sovereign Class and the carrier flight deck and omni-directrional torpedo rollbar of the Akira Class. But don't get me wrong visually I do like the design just needs a bit of a conceptual rethink, to really nail down its purpose beyond just hybrid for the sake of it.
If the secondary hull or “engineering section” of the Akira and sovereign flowed smoothly into each other instead of an obvious mash up it’d look good but I can’t get past that.
I know you mostly do ship battles on bridge Commander but based on your comments on ship design👍in vids. Maybe you could do a vid or tier list ranking (live or not) where you look at Starfleet ships from memory alpha/memory beta/ex-astris-scientia/STO & give us your opinion on the design. Also could get your viewers to suggest ships to look at.
Interesting ship design. Could have done without the Excel impulse drive. The ship already had plenty of those. What would have made this thing a beast is if the topside torpedo pod was kept.
They combined three ugly ships to produce one just as ugly of a ship, lol Don't get me wrong the guy who did the ship did a good job meshing them together.
I thought that was the class of Romulan ship... Please let Dina Meyer get into an escape pod. She suffered a horrible enough death in Starship Troopers. 😄 Edit: Hilarious how so many torpedoes missed. It makes me wonder who was at tactical... must have been a Spaceball. 😄 When you said to go for the bridge, I immediately thought... he wants to look me in the eye. 😀
I don't think the Valdore actually came out as weak in Nemesis. we saw bridgeshots of the scimitar were she quite felt the impact of Valdores disrupters. and we are talking about the scimitar that tanked quantum torpedoes like a champ and is Canonbraking overpowered. Shinzon claims and proves (twice but who is counting) that he could destroy even the Enterprise at any time if he ever wished to do so...
You fight two ships and didnt come out doing torpedo bursts and multi targeting come on this is a good looking hybrid stop turning to starboard great vid
I don't think the Valdor from nemesis was weak. I think the Scimitar was massively OP. When you watch the battle you see and here that the enterprise was to be disabled or crippled but not destroyed. Shinzon had no restraint or restrictions with the warbirds.
That second Valdaur shoukd have won that. You just got lucky hitting them while they were cloaking. Otherwise, you would not have won. I do not like how the Invicibke has impulse engines right beside the warp ones. Not a good idea abd why does it need 6 impulse engines? Can it split in 3 like the Prometheous lol?
This ist not an acurate Invincible class. Granted, it's higly debatable if the fanmade vanguard alternate timeline (from wich the Invincible emerged) can be considered plausible, but if you take a ship from it and put it into a game, make the ship at least close to what it is in its own lore. The Invincible is a "Fleet-Carrier Command Battleship" and the largest ship Starfleet operated in the 24th century and probably well into the 25th. It's 1607 meters long, 764 meters wide and 306 meters high. It dwarfs the dominion battlecruiser, is as wide as the Sovereign class is long and it is higher than Kirks Enterpise 1701 was long. It has 2 warpcores, 4 computer cores, 24 Type XII Phaser Arrays, 12 forward Type XII triple pulse phaser connons, 12 Type XII rotary triple pulse laser turrets, 12 foreward Torpedo launchers, 6 after Torpedo launchers, 9 starboard and 9 Port Mini Torpedo phalanx Arrays, 50 transphasic, 750 quantum, 1500 high-yield photon and 3600 quantum mini torpedoes. The shields are regenerative, redundant, multiphasic, multispectrum, unimatrix defense shields that deny borg tractor- and cutting beams and borg transporter Operations. It has ablative hull armor like the defiant and regenerative ablative armor plating like the returned Voyager from endgame, but with multiple redundant emitters all over the ship. And it carries 2 Defiant Class tactical frigates, 4 Valiant class corvettes, 144 Valkyrie advanced tacticle flyers, 8 Venture Scout ships, 8 Flyer Heavy Shuttles, 12 Type11 Medium and 12 Type9 light Shuttles. It was such a huge and expensive ship that starfleet only ever built 4. The Invincible would have smoke both Valdores simultanious in a few seconds.
No she isn’t, every bit of scaling is completely off. For instance the Akira class is much smaller than the Sovereign class so the Sov’s saucer is bigger, and the size and number of windows bare that out. But this maker didn’t bother to modify Akira’s hull at all with windows and Aztec hull pattern size, and instead just chose to stretch it to fit. This is just plain lazy
To answer your question, I don't like the ship one bit. I think it's just an ugly, unnecessary kit bash. I cringe looking at it. There are scaling issues, unnecessary tech blending that doesn't make sense, and it is a lazy design. Care could have been taken to make a new ship, and incorporate desired design elements, but no, they literally just slapped an Akira on top of a Sovereign.
That ship looks almost as hideous as the "official" Medusa-Class, and easily as terrible as much of the Franken-fleet covered in the DS9 technical manual. Edit: I've never been a fan of kitbashed ships of any kind. They always end up looking goofy, at best.
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"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should."
Haha! Word!
And they forgot the Akira torpedo pod. WTF?
@@brentbartley6838 Yeah, lose the Excelsior engines and add back the pod. Also the "hangar" should be a phaser lance.
I feel like this is one of those designs that _could_ work as its own thing if it was less of a blatant meshing of parts. Like keep the silhouette and general idea, but make it more distinct instead of quite literally slamming two hull parts together.
Now this is what a hybrid should look like! Everything just flows together, almost to the point where it's hard to tell where the parts from one ship end, and the other begins. Yeah, she was barely able to handle a pair of Valdores, but since they seem to be a replacement for the D'deridex Class, that's actually kinda impressive.
I love the Sovereign class and adore the Akira class and while this kitbash has potential it is very rough and therefore hard to look at. the secondary hull makes a strange curve to include Akiras deflector dish. but the ship has quite a few beautyshot angles which proves the potential in the design. might need a little touch up.
The AI of the Invincible was so confused by the ship shape that it just flew in a straight line to it's death.
@@Nicolas_Cage_Bees 😂😂😂
😲oh my gosh... I love this ship.. MSR made wicked , mixes of all the great ships and Akira.. perfect..as Boimler would say '' ooooh'' lol.. Yes at first I saw that too so wasn't sure about that lol... NX.. Akira..lol Oh geez.. I wrote before seeing it, still great ship.. needs more.. lol. Here the Valdore are tough. wow.. like that style.. ouff, nice tactics Admiral.. 😨huh.. eeh ouch.. Still a nice ship but something missing.,, second round was wow , the Valdores took it out easily.. hmm.. 😊🖖
I very much like the look of the ship.
Re: Taking out the Romulans, It helps when they cloak just as you fire a bunch of quantum torpedoes.
I have to say, as Frankenstein as the ship is, she is a BEAUT (98% is, at least). Btw great vids, wasn't until stumbling onto your vids that I saw how passionate the fanbase is about this game. Well ahead of its time.
4:29 you got soooo lucky. You caught them with a quantum spread as they were cloaking 😂.
The Valdor is a Beautiful ship. Reminds me of a Black Widow spider. Beautiful AND EXTREMELY vicious and calculating.❤
That's one nasty looking ship.
That was a cool battle. And the Invincible is a decent looking ship!
Definitely, has the "NX Refit" style to it.
In the first fight, with the second Valdore, it looked like they were trying to cloak and you hit them with a volley of Quantum torpedoes at the same time. They had their shields down to cloak. That's why you scored major hull damage to them.
I love mix-n-match ships. Every ship I had in STO was put through the ship designer to make the ship I thought looked the best.
@@SIXPACFISH you should look into Kenjar's ships in BC for some creative kitbashes from early BC.😎😉😂
Love your mix match encounter battles. Just pure Guy fun!
Evidently, when the Invincible was created, someone forgot to ad torpedo tracking. Those quantums missed from point blank range.
Yeager class will always be my favourite Frankenstein ship, but the transition from the different ships could of been a little smoother, just a thought, but its a good kitbash.
Now if only the Trieste was in BC...
Or....better to not be...😂😂😂
Hey man. Just wanted to say that I love your videos! They remind me of my childhood playing this game for hours on end and loving it. You’ve inspired me to reinstall this game and start playing again. :)
Cheers about the videos. That’s great! So glad it got you back into the game. It’s a great time to play it, with all of the mods available, enjoy🖖
@@RetroBadgerGaming for sure! Question for you. I’m going to download the remastered mod but can you also download other ships that aren’t included in the remaster? Like have multiple mods running at the same time including the remaster?
Indeed! If you google gamefront bridge commander, most of those ships are fully compatible 🖖
Holy crap I was surprised how quickly you took out the Invincible when you were playing the Valdore. Ya it was personal when you were up close at the end and unleashed everything lol.
Regarding the design...it's rather interesting. I think the design would work if it was literally fleshed out more.
Msr1701 remains my personal hero
Just remember tho... I am easily impressed
LOL, thx!😂
This was one of Phoenix Bondi's early mods, his TOS works... oh my, he gives WileyCoyote and GMunoz competition 😂
i liked that one. thanks for your time
Thanks for watching 🖖
The 2nd Valdor cloaked and you hit it with about 4 quantum’s. That’s why they were finished off so quickly.
If I'm not mistaken I remember reading that the Invincible was the largest ship the Federation ever made and is one of only a small few that has a designation Fleet carrier / battleship
They had a cloaking mishap. They are quantum while unshielded... That's how you scored the hull damage.
The Valdor is such a great design and I will forgive Nemesis a lot in return for giving us the Valdor. I've never thought it weak, it was more a demonstration how insane the Scimitar was.
I think I'd want to play the Invincible class a bit to decide whether I like it. It looks a little awkward in places but overall I think it's a decent design. I think this might go in the same bucket as the Yeager; a weird but cool member of the "Franken-Fleet" (That is a compliment), and props to the designer for coming up with it.
It's a fairly attractive ship, I just wish it had stronger shields.
Not just a combination of Sovereign, Akira and a little bit of Excelsior mixed in there, but also a little Intrepid class sprinkled on top.
how so?
i love the look of the invincible it looks so good 😊
It looks nice, but to me it needs the weapons pod to be complete.
Turret/disruptor fire does mess with the NavPoint/Orbit Planet travel, which makes Romulans tough foes to evade😅
Thanks for confirming that, wasn't a 100% 🖖
@@RetroBadgerGaming when I first was using NavPoints in battle, I got comboed by disruptor fire, which usually led to my demise.
On another note, if the AI is Cloak Happy, using NavPoint/Orbit Planet can force the AI to decloak as it reacts to a distant target
That ship kinda reminds me of that villian sidekick in the original RoboCop who crashed into that commercial toxic goo 😅
Hope you do some scenarios from the enterprise era of the Romulan war 😁👍
That’s a nice looking ship. If the Invincible and the Curry made a movie it would be called Twins.
My brain is confused 🤣
"relatively weak" against the freaking Scimitar. Everything is relatively weak versus that thing.
could ya do the excalibur (biggo ship) vs the dominion battleship?
When you were trying to fly away, it looked like the plasma injectors needed a good clean 🖖
Awesome ship!
I'm loving the look of the new fed ship, now just have to hope it becomes an official ship
Nice looking ships that is inv
You got incredibly lucky that 2nd Valdor was trying to cloak.
IRW Valdore Named after Admiral Valdore in star trek enterprise and Commander Donatra!
5:15 A very grueling battle, but you won in the end. It's a good thing you were in the
*cue title card*
Invincible
Should try a 1 vs 1! Ty for the video and LLAP!
Love the new ship... excelsior refited part?
Yes, the Impulse Engines at the back in the middle on the saucer. It's such a mish mash. Wonder why they used something from such an old design 🖖
@@RetroBadgerGaming Random or what they like!
I think you won as the Federation ship because of a very unfortunate cloaking accident where they cloaked, dropped their shields just to be hit with about 4 Quantum torpedoes.
Looks like an evolution of the nx 01 to me
The Valdore deserves the RBG treatment imo
What program is used to build these 'kit bash' ships?
USS Invincible got defeated. Recommending renaming the ship to USS Ironic. 🖖
And the bridge it’s like the intrepid class one
The Invincible looks really good mixing three ships together and the design works very well. However besides its looks the ship has some problems. Without the Akira's weapons pod the dorsal portion of the ship has only a single phaser array and the ventral section has 3 phaser arrays. While the number of quantum torpedoes that be fired is impressive, the phaser arrays are severely lacking. Adding two phaser arrays along the two catamarans and two small phaser arrays on the sovereigns warp nacelles would greatly increase dorsal firepower and close that gap in its dorsal firing arc. Add phaser arrays on the ventral nacelles of the sovereigns hull with a array on the bottom of each warp nacelle and the phaser arrays give true 360 degree firing. Also the ship seems to be pretty slow considering it has at minimum 6 impulse engines and looks like two additional ones under the catamarans. that many impulse engines this ship should be cooking on speed but seems no faster than a sovereign with it's two massive impulse engines.
In the words of Homer Simpson, "I am invincible! INVINCIBLE!! Ooowwwww!!"
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I like the look of this Federation ship
i wonder if bridge commander will ever do romulan ship destruction right i mean they don't explode if the singularity pops they kinda just vanish
I hope so someday. Star Trek Online does a great job 🖖
3:00 What would be the point if they don't include the torpedo pod of the Akira-class?
I would test this design against the Sovereign-class to see how much of an improvement it really is.
Why two...why not one....did you by chance....play before hand
Today on Junkyard Wars, who can build a starship to take on 2 Romulan Valdores using pre-dominion war parts!
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Catamaran type and no weapon pod....really lacking, what's the point of the extra upper hull, if not weapon placement.
Oof. That's a bit kluged. The concept is actually quite interesting of having the Akira's pylons flow into the nacelles with the secondary hull pylons. However, you'd have to get into the vertices and new textures.
The romulan ship is tier 3 in star trek online. It's probably a week ship.
STO isnt canon. You are destroying dozens of borg ships with your starter Miranda Class in the very first mission. The movie makers and show runners make the ships as strong as they need to be for telling the story. Voyager did amazing when it really shouldnt for example. They even fought a tactical borg cube. lol. Major plot armor. I think the Valdores were intended to be "strong" and modern "top of the line" ships in the movie. They were there to show how strong the Scimitar really was. Taking those two ships out in a few minutes and almost totally disabling Enterprise (Shinzon did not want to destroy the Enterprise initially).
@Gentleman...Driver and there's t6 versions also, hell they've got a t6 tos Connie lol....everything is weak or strong bases off what the story calls for.
Should have kept the Akira Rollbar on! More Torp spam!
Looks like it just has too much mass slowing down it's turn rate... and then on top of that it loses out on what makes both ships good, for instance the maneuverability and power of the Sovereign Class and the carrier flight deck and omni-directrional torpedo rollbar of the Akira Class.
But don't get me wrong visually I do like the design just needs a bit of a conceptual rethink, to really nail down its purpose beyond just hybrid for the sake of it.
If the secondary hull or “engineering section” of the Akira and sovereign flowed smoothly into each other instead of an obvious mash up it’d look good but I can’t get past that.
I know you mostly do ship battles on bridge Commander but based on your comments on ship design👍in vids. Maybe you could do a vid or tier list ranking (live or not) where you look at Starfleet ships from memory alpha/memory beta/ex-astris-scientia/STO & give us your opinion on the design. Also could get your viewers to suggest ships to look at.
That’s a neat idea. I’ll look into it. Thanks for the suggestion 🖖
I don't know why bur this is one of few starfleet ships I think are beautiful
Interesting ship design. Could have done without the Excel impulse drive. The ship already had plenty of those. What would have made this thing a beast is if the topside torpedo pod was kept.
They combined three ugly ships to produce one just as ugly of a ship, lol
Don't get me wrong the guy who did the ship did a good job meshing them together.
I thought that was the class of Romulan ship...
Please let Dina Meyer get into an escape pod. She suffered a horrible enough death in Starship Troopers. 😄
Edit: Hilarious how so many torpedoes missed.
It makes me wonder who was at tactical... must have been a Spaceball. 😄
When you said to go for the bridge, I immediately thought... he wants to look me in the eye. 😀
Invincible needs more topedo launchers.. otherwise it's best kitbash I've ever seen
Hey Badger how about a Wrath of Kahn battle but with the Enterprise D and a Nebula instead of Enterprise refit and Miranda?
Invincibles shields are to weak and it should have side mounted torpedo's like the Akira.
Whats the strongest star fleet ship? Is there uss Vengeance? Was the invincible in any shows did it have fighter ships in it? Defiant?
I don't think the Valdore actually came out as weak in Nemesis. we saw bridgeshots of the scimitar were she quite felt the impact of Valdores disrupters. and we are talking about the scimitar that tanked quantum torpedoes like a champ and is Canonbraking overpowered. Shinzon claims and proves (twice but who is counting) that he could destroy even the Enterprise at any time if he ever wished to do so...
You fight two ships and didnt come out doing torpedo bursts and multi targeting come on this is a good looking hybrid stop turning to starboard great vid
Did the Valdore try to cloak? lol While u were firing Quantum Torpedos lol!
Your right, it looks like thats what happened.
That thing is pretty silly looking.
Constantly showed your weak side. Always turn to starboard in ALL YOUR VIDEOS.
I'd have been happy if that had been the new enterprise
It looks like the Invicible has no lower shields?
That’s what I thought. It did have them, just there was no shield diagram 😂
Needs more refinement....
Just what I was thinking.
Magic Schoolbus vs the Death Star.
I don't think the Valdor from nemesis was weak. I think the Scimitar was massively OP. When you watch the battle you see and here that the enterprise was to be disabled or crippled but not destroyed. Shinzon had no restraint or restrictions with the warbirds.
That second Valdaur shoukd have won that. You just got lucky hitting them while they were cloaking. Otherwise, you would not have won. I do not like how the Invicibke has impulse engines right beside the warp ones. Not a good idea abd why does it need 6 impulse engines? Can it split in 3 like the Prometheous lol?
My Guy, battle tactics, learn them.
Invinci...nope!
Where do you go to play this BC mod?
Gamefront 🖖
The regular Akira with a quantum launcher is a much better design.
This ist not an acurate Invincible class. Granted, it's higly debatable if the fanmade vanguard alternate timeline (from wich the Invincible emerged) can be considered plausible, but if you take a ship from it and put it into a game, make the ship at least close to what it is in its own lore.
The Invincible is a "Fleet-Carrier Command Battleship" and the largest ship Starfleet operated in the 24th century and probably well into the 25th. It's 1607 meters long, 764 meters wide and 306 meters high. It dwarfs the dominion battlecruiser, is as wide as the Sovereign class is long and it is higher than Kirks Enterpise 1701 was long. It has 2 warpcores, 4 computer cores, 24 Type XII Phaser Arrays, 12 forward Type XII triple pulse phaser connons, 12 Type XII rotary triple pulse laser turrets, 12 foreward Torpedo launchers, 6 after Torpedo launchers, 9 starboard and 9 Port Mini Torpedo phalanx Arrays, 50 transphasic, 750 quantum, 1500 high-yield photon and 3600 quantum mini torpedoes. The shields are regenerative, redundant, multiphasic, multispectrum, unimatrix defense shields that deny borg tractor- and cutting beams and borg transporter Operations. It has ablative hull armor like the defiant and regenerative ablative armor plating like the returned Voyager from endgame, but with multiple redundant emitters all over the ship. And it carries 2 Defiant Class tactical frigates, 4 Valiant class corvettes, 144 Valkyrie advanced tacticle flyers, 8 Venture Scout ships, 8 Flyer Heavy Shuttles, 12 Type11 Medium and 12 Type9 light Shuttles. It was such a huge and expensive ship that starfleet only ever built 4. The Invincible would have smoke both Valdores simultanious in a few seconds.
It cannot pretend to descend from an Akira if it doesn't have side firing torpedoes! Ridiculous!
She's beautiful
No she isn’t, every bit of scaling is completely off. For instance the Akira class is much smaller than the Sovereign class so the Sov’s saucer is bigger, and the size and number of windows bare that out. But this maker didn’t bother to modify Akira’s hull at all with windows and Aztec hull pattern size, and instead just chose to stretch it to fit. This is just plain lazy
@@tommytmt she's rough around the edges but the spirit's there
To answer your question, I don't like the ship one bit. I think it's just an ugly, unnecessary kit bash. I cringe looking at it. There are scaling issues, unnecessary tech blending that doesn't make sense, and it is a lazy design. Care could have been taken to make a new ship, and incorporate desired design elements, but no, they literally just slapped an Akira on top of a Sovereign.
Invincible = Akira/Sovereign class lol
Excelsior class REFITTED LOL almost missed that part! lol
That ship looks almost as hideous as the "official" Medusa-Class, and easily as terrible as much of the Franken-fleet covered in the DS9 technical manual.
Edit: I've never been a fan of kitbashed ships of any kind. They always end up looking goofy, at best.
Go home Mr. Starfleet Engineer, you’re drunk.
Poor aft weapons coverage.
it need more laser points its way underpowered, and missing any sort of rear laser arch ,
Phasers... its Phasers in Star Trek.
@@Gentleman...Driver yep couldn't think of the words thanks
I really dislike these fanfic ships. They're always ridiculous looking, preposterously overpowered and pointless.
Hot Garbage.
Needs the Akira-class’s Torpedo Pod, other than that an okay design for the USS Invincible
Well, it's better looking than a kitbashed maquis raider/intrepid.