Float Height: Inspection and adjustment the RIGHT & WRONG way! Demo on: YZ250F

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  • Опубликовано: 15 сен 2016
  • In this video, I show you the two most common reasons for setting float height incorrect. Let’s look at them separately.
    - Carb orientation
    o You just want the float tab kissing the float needle BUT the needle is fully seated. Cleanliness is key along with needle to seat fitment. Think: no burs or damaged from removal that would cause the assembly to not work smoothly together!
    - A true understanding or how the float needle is designed
    o That little spring loaded point on the float needle acts as a cushion or damper to aid in the life of the needle. If you set your float height with this collapsed, it will be off.
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  • @mechtech0110
    @mechtech0110 7 лет назад +6

    thanks for making these videos. glad to see someone taking the time to teach people about craftsmanship. I'm a plumber by trade but I work on my own bikes etc and have always been diligent with my work. keep up the good work and keep on wrenching.

    • @mechtech0110
      @mechtech0110 7 лет назад

      Shane Conley thanks I wouldn't mind taking a trip on the bike down to see the lab at western Iowa tech sometime. looking into maybe renting a facility so I can gather more equipment and build bikes full time.

  • @lisajohnson8566
    @lisajohnson8566 3 года назад +2

    Dude you nailed it. I'm working on a friends bike that he received as a basket case. He's poured a ton of money in it and he brought the carb to me to completely disassemble, check and clean. I took every last part out of that carb and cleaned and checked each passage and all was well. So I'm going back together and the last thing I am doing is checking choke level. Now I'm not a Suzuki mechanic but just an old school carburetor mechanic and I'm checking the float level and I have EXACTLY what you're showing here which gave a low fuel level in the carb and thus leaned this bike out to the point it wouldn't run well. I'm following your instructions and I'm sure this will make a huge difference. Thanks for the great video.
    On why someone would set it that way in the first place you asked? A agree with your thoughts that they roll the carb level and they compress that little spring loaded pin and thus you end up with what we have found. Thanks again!!

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  • @shanemyers4142
    @shanemyers4142 Год назад +1

    I love your content. I have a friends bike and took me weeks and weeks of trouble shooting and taking carbs on and off just scratching head wondering why it keeps dying upon throttle when the carbs and jets are spotless and in good health. Well I've never had to do float adjustment before but somthin told me to check the floats cause everything checked out good and noticed they are just a tad bit uneven with each other. That makes me think they're not at the right hight. I'm fixin to give it a go and your vids are extremely helpful and explained very clear. Thanks for the motorcycle education. You're awesome.

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  • @200xcBruce
    @200xcBruce 7 лет назад +14

    Bowl leaked out overflow when gas was turned on and bike was sitting off. Owner or tech thought float level was too high. And actually needle and seat were compromised and not shutting off.

    • @gittyupalice96
      @gittyupalice96 4 года назад +1

      I've had carbs before where if you just tap on the side with a solid object (screw driver handle or plyers) then the float needle will seat and stop the fuel leaking out.. Or if its a dirt bike just by simply riding it off road is enough to jiggle the needle and keep it from sticking open. Of course if you can get a re-build kit then do it, but the tap the side method will keep a leaking carb from leaking temporarily. lol

  • @kyleewert5630
    @kyleewert5630 6 лет назад +7

    My guess is worn needle valve was causing over fill and previous owner adjusted tang to compensate

  • @jamier2642
    @jamier2642 4 года назад +2

    Thankyou very much. Perfect explanation. My bike runs as it should again🙏

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  • @jayryan7473
    @jayryan7473 2 года назад +1

    It's good to see someone going into detail on the valve spring and plunger. The mystery is figuring out how strong that spring should be. I just watched a video of a guy holding his carb completely upside down and his spring was fairly strong. That spring was strong enough to hold the float up and when he tapped on the float it would pop back up. I know the springs get weak over time (because mine did) and it's too bad we can't pull that spring out to stretch it out some.

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  • @armandojosemario2645
    @armandojosemario2645 3 года назад

    Very good videos. Keep doing the good work!

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  • @Sean-Aviation
    @Sean-Aviation 5 лет назад +4

    Your videos are excellent. very informative great shots. Good job!

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  • @wacio
    @wacio 7 лет назад +1

    Many service manuals including mine (Suzuki GZ250) specify to check floats with carb upside down. They mention "just touching the needle" though.

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  • @yabcontraband6623
    @yabcontraband6623 3 года назад

    U explained it the best way possible thanks man

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    Nicely done, thank you.

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  • @4ndr3w70
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  • @arielmotoshop
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    Thank you so much for this video bro. I learn a lot for this, always take care, im from manila philippines.

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  • @jdubya1976
    @jdubya1976 6 лет назад +4

    Great video! I just rebuilt my 06 CRF450R carb (my first time) and I'm pretty sure the same thing happened to mine that happened to the carb in this video. My theory is this... When removing the float and float needle, the needle was stuck in the hole and the tab got bent from pulling on the float trying to get it and the needle out. I didn't realize it until I had the bike reassembled. 😡

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    • @igeorgiev1984
      @igeorgiev1984 5 лет назад

      Hi Jason Warden,
      Did you have any start problems with the bad setting? I have on my WR 426 backfire while trying to start it and once it is started, the idle is not steady even with choker off. It revs by itself and once I drive it around for 30 seconds and then it stalls. Not enough fuel going to the carb? I forgot to mention I can only start it if I twist the gas three times before kicking it. Any help will be much appreciated! Thanks!
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    • @brodymclean5349
      @brodymclean5349 Год назад

      @@igeorgiev1984 sounds like my problem… did you get to the bottom of it? Checking the carb for the 4th time this year paying attention to the float valve scoring.

  • @only1max
    @only1max 3 года назад

    Just might try this on my own. Thanks

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  • @vwpier
    @vwpier 7 лет назад

    if the float is set to high.. to much gaz in the carb. can that be my back firing and non start issue?.only start to have that problem after i change my needle and decide to adjust my float ?

  • @fordguy8792
    @fordguy8792 7 лет назад +1

    Holy mother of mercy that's a huge carb! Say, think you can do a tuning/setup on those behemoths from my 01 Superhawk? I know they need to be cleaned and properly tuned for the exhaust and I've been dragging my feet on doing it since it currently performs well enough for me to get into trouble! Ever since another tech rode it and mentioned he couldn't get it to wheelie, that missing performance has bothered me!

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  • @goshjillespie904
    @goshjillespie904 3 года назад

    Fixed my problem thanks !!!

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  • @rogerbosman6518
    @rogerbosman6518 5 лет назад

    To answer your question I think the carburator body should be set to the same angle as if it was on the bike. than adjust the float parallel to the carb body. What does the maintenance manual state you should do?

    • @chadbrown8552
      @chadbrown8552 Год назад

      I know this is old, but if you tried to adjust it as if on the bike it would be upside-down and never even touch the needle.

  • @thetrailwaychildren
    @thetrailwaychildren Год назад

    My carb is jetted to spec but it's really rich even though the mixture screw is leaned out as far as it can go, the choke kills the engine every time and the plug is fouled. Is the float height the most likely suspect here?

  • @daddioisik8217
    @daddioisik8217 3 года назад

    My mikuni on my dirt bike is killing me. I rebuilt the carb,cleaned again and again but it only will get fuel in it when I turn the carb sideways. It then starts but idles erratically. Do you think it’s related to float needle adjustment? Does the needle need to be hanging with a tiny piece metal or is it okay for it to sit as it’s in the need housing? Thank you!

  • @Rico_B
    @Rico_B 4 года назад

    Great video--Thank you!

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  • @michaelabilez2731
    @michaelabilez2731 5 лет назад

    is this the same with all float carbs?

  • @Sean-Aviation
    @Sean-Aviation 5 лет назад +2

    Excellent video, thanks. I got a question about the spring clip that binds the float with the float valve. Is it suppose to hold the float tab tight on the valve pin (without compressing it of course) or dingle freely with a gap? I had the concept that he valve regulates the fuel flow so when the float compress the valve pin it stops the flow OR the float lifts the whole valve UP and by so allowing the fuel to flow through the tapered front of the valve (which in this case, the spring pin on the valve is just to dampen the vibration?

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    • @jastejrapper4724
      @jastejrapper4724 5 лет назад

      Spring counteracts potholes

  • @TheChapMX
    @TheChapMX 3 года назад +1

    Thank you, I wasn't sure on the necessary position of the needle valve. This cleared that up perfectly. Thanks. Sometimes the manual verbiage can be hard to understand.

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  • @alberto-cg7ox
    @alberto-cg7ox Год назад

    Hi Sir, I don't know if I understand.. but in mine manual it's right to upside down the carb, and I think that mean that I have to rotate the carb.. but you lay down the carb on a table.. so what I have to do? Thanx

  • @jefflee5113
    @jefflee5113 5 лет назад

    Thanks for the video great stuff. I have a 1987 YZ 490 and was wondering how you found out what the float height should be. You said it was 8mm, is there a place to go to find out the technical information on the float. My bike is running very rich and I have a sneaky suspicion it is the tab you just discussed with the float. I can adjust the fuel to about 3/4 closed and it gets better, but the mixture of the fuel is very rich. I would love to have anyone comment as I am stuck right now. Thanks

    • @amcgee-dl3cj
      @amcgee-dl3cj 4 года назад

      adjust what fuel to 3/4 closed? the mikuni and dellorto tuning manuals are both good and fairly easy to find a pdf for free and do a good job of explaining tuning ranges . also just so you know yamahas stock jetting for alot of the yz490s was on the rich side because when it was jetted nicely, it would ping because the engine had a bit too much compression so the rich jetting was a "band aid" from yamaha. if it was mine, i'd mix in half race gas in with my gas can and jet it just a little bit leaner than yamahas jetting.

  • @dfindlin
    @dfindlin 3 года назад +1

    Maybe the carb was having an issue with flooding out because a worn float seat.

  • @MagisMoto
    @MagisMoto 3 года назад

    Thanks for sharing very helpful

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  • @frederic1000001
    @frederic1000001 Год назад

    How high has it to be able to be opened ? I mean how high the pin has to go out to let the fuel quickly replace the fuel in the carb tank ?

  • @vernmantoani3874
    @vernmantoani3874 6 лет назад +5

    Just repaired my DRZ 400 by watching your setting the carb video. Thanks

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  • @paulblaize8649
    @paulblaize8649 3 года назад

    Thanks Shane. I think Kyle might be right. Anyone know where to find float height specs for Mikuni carbs? Mine is a VM 20. There’s nothing in the service manual on that.
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      The only correct place you will find it is in the EXACT year make and model OEM service manual (some forum may have it screenshot). You cannot look for float height by carb model as different manufactures may orientate to carb different causing the need for a different float height spec. Same manufacture but different country of origin will change this too and from year to year. A great site to purchase OEM manuals cheap is www.tradebit.com/G/manuals This will give you everything possible for the model. Also text a photo or the "manual" you have. MEMBER only...lol

  • @marchlander1
    @marchlander1 5 лет назад +2

    I randomly clicked here. I was thinking that main jet on mine is too small. It doesn't idle well, when I stop at the light, it runs higher but after few seconds it almost dies and again gets higher. I had many things adjusted, now I'll check the float. Hope this is it.

    • @sixpacksandsrts9122
      @sixpacksandsrts9122 5 лет назад

      marchlander1 Main jet is for fill in throttle. The pilot jet is what controls the idle. Also could be the air mix screw

  • @brianb5779
    @brianb5779 3 года назад

    Do you think by applying pressure and the moment pressure builds is the correct spot to measure? This smaller carb im dealing w has all kinds of movement between movement of needle and float (plastic float).

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  • @socialdestroyer4112
    @socialdestroyer4112 6 лет назад +1

    I just bought a Yamaha Banshee because gas was pouring out of the carbs overflow wish me luck LOL

  • @markcottrell9752
    @markcottrell9752 7 лет назад +1

    hi can you tell me why I find fuel being spat out of the carburettor inlet, I can see it coming from around the needle,could this be related to float valve adjustment?

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  • @stevenertle2876
    @stevenertle2876 7 лет назад +1

    Hey great video I just rebuilt the carburetor and it's running horribly Rich it's an xr100 Honda and I can't get it to idle the idle screw doesn't do anything when I turn in or out I don't know what the problem is with that one driving me nuts thank you for your input

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    • @jastejrapper4724
      @jastejrapper4724 5 лет назад

      Jets too big,esp pilot.

  • @earlstewart9419
    @earlstewart9419 6 лет назад +1

    I'm wondering after rebuilding carb on polaris mikuni it idles wonderful when reaching top rev it cuts out. Do you think the float is too high.?

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  • @ethanclark6859
    @ethanclark6859 4 месяца назад

    Man idk why but I can’t get this carb I’m currently working on to quit leaking out of the overflow. I swapped out the needle valve entirely, and I keep setting it to 8mm laying sideways with calipers, and I even went a little over and under in hopes it would make a difference. Idk what is going on😭😭

  • @beyondupnorth
    @beyondupnorth 6 лет назад +1

    My 08 Z250f state the setting exactly the way you do. Carb not full upside down. The issue Im having I thing my float level is too high, the bike does not leak when sitting, but leaks while riding it with the slightest little bumps on the trail. It runs good though. If I lower the level I think it will fix this just hope I'm not going to make it go too lean. Other part is it starts well and does not seem to flood. So i hope I'm on the right train of thought lowering the level. Has anyone else experienced this issue?

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  • @WILLY52368
    @WILLY52368 Год назад

    Can you do a video on "Deceleration Air Valve" and why it causes bike to backfire when you let off on the throttle please? I know this may sound stupid but did you ever work on a carb that had no air/fuel mixture screw on it, reason why I ask is I could not find one on my carb which my mechanic said is from a XR650R. He built my bike but anything to do with it I don't discuss because of a blow-out we had in the meantime I was stuck with this unknown carb issue that I had take on myself with no tuning skills only from what I see on youtube. My bike runs ok but still has that popping on deceleration and burps or more like has a vacuum effect in the exhaust everytime I shut the bike down. Your input on this would be greatly appreciated, and the only thing I did before this happened was take off my headers to do a wrap, replace the gasket and put it back together.

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  • @scottthomson700
    @scottthomson700 7 лет назад +3

    It was leaking petrol out the over flow when the gas was left on. So they thought that was the problem and over adjusted it to stop that. When it was proberbly the valve seat or needle that needed changed or both. ??????

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    • @SantinoDeluxe
      @SantinoDeluxe 7 лет назад

      this is exactly why im here lol

  • @davidrubensson8322
    @davidrubensson8322 Год назад

    So I don't understundom was it running lean or rich in the begining?

  • @crazedmoto6944
    @crazedmoto6944 6 лет назад +1

    I can't really see the top of your carb but it looks identical to mine does it have that electric solenoid thing and do you know anything about them I think might quit it always bogs down when I go it gas It's a main jet shut off or something I have heard I would like to know if I go to pop it out if your Springs or something in there that I'm going to release or is it just a swap a new one in you know anything about it.

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  • @bigballzcritic
    @bigballzcritic 4 года назад +1

    Quick question I have a 04 yfz 450 it’s an kihein fcr carb on it, all the videos show that you have to change the screen we’re the float needle sits and the o ring but I don’t have that in this carb.. is it supposed to be there? was something changed out I don’t know about? cause I’m leaking gas out the overflow as well, I’m gonna try your tip and see if that works..

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  • @strongislandjetskis
    @strongislandjetskis 3 месяца назад

    So the crank seal (right side) springs facing towards you. I have a cr85

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  • @michaelillig568
    @michaelillig568 7 лет назад +1

    bought a brand new KTM 300 xc. after the first ride I noticed I was leaking gas out of the over flow. when I tipped the bike towards me I noticed It was leaking gas out of the over flow. is this a common problem with the new mikuni carbs. which direction should I bend the tab or would you recommend taking it in since I do not have the correct measuring tools. I believe it's not off much.

    • @CamiloSantana
      @CamiloSantana 7 лет назад

      Michael Illig bend the tab in towards the float pin/body to get the needle to seat earlier. you don't need special tools to check. they're nice and name the job faster/easier and more exact but you can get a good measurement by attaching a clear hose to the bottom of the carb and bend it up along the side of said carb. the level you're shooting for is right at the San where the float meets the body. Search RUclips for "carb float height check" and you have your solution there​

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    @martin562909 3 года назад

    Thanks

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  • @stevenwileman7088
    @stevenwileman7088 3 месяца назад

    Mine leaks just the same I will be striping Mine 2 moz thanks 4 the info

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  • @scottlilly4091
    @scottlilly4091 6 лет назад +2

    What would make a float height change? Or why would anyone change it from a factory setting?

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    • @jastejrapper4724
      @jastejrapper4724 5 лет назад

      Richer setting

  • @mikejd35d23
    @mikejd35d23 6 лет назад

    So you still didn't mention how to law the carb on the bench, the most important part. Laying it the way you did has a few variables such as the idle cable affecting the angle.

  • @janjakus3596
    @janjakus3596 2 года назад

    I adjusted the float like you showed in the video and fuel is still leaking from the drain hose….any suggestions?

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  • @TOMVUTHEPIMP
    @TOMVUTHEPIMP 3 года назад

    You said to set the float hight with the carb at an angle so the pin in just barely getting touched. Then when you break out the calipers you claim its set right with the carb sitting on its side This is going to be two wildly different heights. Which is it?

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  • @mikeburton5482
    @mikeburton5482 3 года назад

    ,I just read something about measuring from the tip or bottom I suppose of the main jet with a special tool for mine. It's a kiehn on a crf 100. Like everyone has that tool. I have a set of digital calipers. Also that thread shows 12.5 and other threads that do not mention the tool say 21. 5 or 21 . Man all sounds crazy. I thought I was lean but I left fuel and removed the bowl and it was up on the gasket so it would be rich being that fui correct?

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  • @ethanwoodfin2423
    @ethanwoodfin2423 5 лет назад

    I got a ssr125 with a brand new carb and you can't start it at all and it sprays gas out of the intake like 2 feet out every time you kick it please help

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  • @CrossFitRingwood
    @CrossFitRingwood 7 лет назад +1

    o ring leaked allowing raw fuel in. set to allow for extra fuel as bandaid. float hight set in the incorrect with tang pressing on the needle.

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  • @chrissysunshine
    @chrissysunshine 7 лет назад +7

    I bet that someone rebuilt the carb, but didn't understand how to adjust that, and likely got rid of the bike because they couldn't figure it out.... exactly how I ended up with my 02 yz125 for $600!

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    • @lynnh7694
      @lynnh7694 5 лет назад +1

      Good comment, I'm just about ready to sell mine. I have been messing around with this float adjustment time and time again.

    • @Alex-pj8eu
      @Alex-pj8eu 5 лет назад

      @@lynnh7694 i am mechanically inclined and work on shit all the time and i have NEVER understood "float adjustment" I have messed with my carburetor and watched video after video.. can someone just explain if you put the carb on its side and measure or what.. I am just not following these videos.. I understand how they work but dont know how they need to be set, and arent certain models different.. In simple english please.. Seems way too technical, i dont care how the last guy set it i just need to understand the process.. I understand the concept.. I KNOW how it works.. It CAN let in too much fuel.. But WHERE and HOW does it need to be set and is this the same for ANY bike??.. I have watched video after video on dirt bike and small engine carbs and i still do not know if the carb needs to be upside down, on its side at 45 degrees, or just regular.. Not following.. I love engines but i f'n hate carburetors with a passion..i can re jet them and change the floats but as far as setting the floats and changing the needle valve seat o ring.. Atleast on my cr i do not understand AT ALL how to do it, my needle seat valve o ring wont even come out and has no bolt.. I understand how they work and that they can leak but no good explanation on youtube yet.. Not even his.. Atleast for my application..a 3 minute video just can't explain this kind of stuff, there's so many variables, different designs, and basics they dont cover.. I still don't understand how he set this float..

  • @mr.kenpeluso5685
    @mr.kenpeluso5685 2 года назад

    Good video.

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  • @DirtbikeDad
    @DirtbikeDad 2 года назад

    Got to do this on my yz 125. Is the carb the same for a 250 ?

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  • @Ry93P
    @Ry93P 3 года назад

    Would this carb be the same as the 450 wr 2007 and previous video

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  • @Alex-pj8eu
    @Alex-pj8eu 5 лет назад

    I'm going to have to look at my float inlet needle/ seat again on my cr 125, Im very mechanically inclined but i hate carburetors, my hands are big and parts are so tiny.. My bike fouls plugs, put a new plug in it and its fine, ride it, runs great let it idle and stop, it doesnt load up any more than other bikes ive had, or even turn it off start it again, starts on first kick.. You could ride it all day without it fouling.... BUT park it go out to ride the next day, always starts right up perfect...let the bike idle for 20 seconds and the plug starts fouling the very next day after putting in a fresh plug the day prior, any idea what this could be??? I've had tons of bikes, replaced a ton of stuff on this bike and I got no idea, electrical is ALL new and checked out so ruled out, jetting should be ok I even put in a jd jet kit didn't help although bike runs better and cleans out splooge when you open it up better, float height should be ok but i will double check, could it be the needle seat, or the needle seat o ring?? Im talking a bike with a new top end, new crank seals(on the wet side), all new electrical (stator, coil etc.), stock pipe, stock reeds, proper jetting, the only thing it can be is the carb or sucking in crankcase oil which i wouldnt understand with new crank seals.. Does this sound like a carb issue?? So confused..

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    • @jastejrapper4724
      @jastejrapper4724 5 лет назад

      Get a new valve pin

  • @jamesbrantner4528
    @jamesbrantner4528 6 лет назад +1

    Perhaps whoever was last in the carbs was having issues with engine flooding/bogging.

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  • @michaelpresey2273
    @michaelpresey2273 2 года назад

    I watched this after I did it and put it back on LOL i was trying to angle the carb so it was just making contact with the float needle but the float valve kept popping up with the float and made it way way to rich now flames shoot out my exhaust lol

    • @michaelpresey2273
      @michaelpresey2273 2 года назад

      Will defiantly try setting it with the carb laying on its side seems a lot more easier and can get it more accurate

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  • @lynnh7694
    @lynnh7694 5 лет назад +1

    You didn't set the float while holding it at a 22° angle?

  • @oakleydelo614
    @oakleydelo614 11 месяцев назад

    Clogged , or it wasn't closing the valve at all and gas was pouring out of the over flows

  • @teninchrichard4016
    @teninchrichard4016 5 лет назад +2

    It looked to me that the wire that is connected to the float needle was on a 45. shouldn't it run perpendicular to the metal tang on the float?

  • @mitchmendez7411
    @mitchmendez7411 7 лет назад

    needle and seat on it was bad so they tended to stop overflow

  • @marjanboo4196
    @marjanboo4196 3 года назад

    i actually just set the float to being paralel to the base of carb with bowl off obviously an it worked better than measuring

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      @marjanboo4196 3 года назад

      @@How2Wrench mine shouldn't have liked the parallel way but it did tmx38 the distance should have been out but iv seen a few guys say it an it worked the float is a good way to get your carb running perfectly as you can lean an richen with the float

  • @legacy_gaming7722
    @legacy_gaming7722 3 года назад

    I am super lost and don’t want to mess this up could I please get help by someone when knows what todo

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  • @earlstewart9419
    @earlstewart9419 6 лет назад +1

    sorry meant to say too low. it is parallel to the body.

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  • @tylercoon4619
    @tylercoon4619 Год назад

    This video is old but I imagine they probably had fuel leaking out of the overflow and they were trying to prevent it from happening

  • @JRW809
    @JRW809 2 года назад

    I think it might be the wrong needle... the needle is most likely taller than the previous needle. The other thing that happens is the gasket weather fiber or aluminum is thicker that the original, this will impact float height. A small difference in float height makes a huge difference in Float Bowl fuel level. I would go as far as to say a 1mm change in Float height makes a 10mm difference in fuel level in the bowl.

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  • @socialdestroyer4112
    @socialdestroyer4112 6 лет назад +1

    Because they had the wrong size jets in it and they were trying to compensate by the floats

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  • @itsSktzy
    @itsSktzy 6 лет назад +1

    hey my float dosent bounce when i toch it like that why s that

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    • @michaelthomas788
      @michaelthomas788 4 года назад

      Polly gummed up inside the needle valve need to be replaced can't fix that no matter how hard you try it'll always gum up

    • @michaelthomas788
      @michaelthomas788 4 года назад

      how much time you going to spend trying to clean it when you should just run down to the bike shop and buy a rebuild kit when you're cleaning out the carburetor and setting the float anyway you do not reuse old carburetor parts to set your floats

    • @michaelthomas788
      @michaelthomas788 4 года назад

      I will personally refuse to clean out somebody's carburetor if they refuse to buy a kit to rebuild it because you do not always get all of the junk out of the Jets and the kit comes with all new Jets this is also a good idea to make sure all of your ports in the carburetor are free of debris because a plug Venturi will cause you a lot of headaches sometimes you can use a torch tip cleaner set what works best to is a broken clutch cable strand of wire or a red twisty tie strip all the plastic off and use the bare wire as a needle to prod through the 5 orifice openings in front of your carburetor slide they are located on the top and bottom are the carburetor in front of your slide they end up going through your jets Main and idle and your choke

  • @IanHoltzhauzen
    @IanHoltzhauzen 4 года назад +1

    Why would my Idling be sky high after adjusting it to the spec?

    • @liveandletlive2894
      @liveandletlive2894 4 года назад

      You can be running now rich or lean, play with the chole and idle screw to determine which one.

    • @IanHoltzhauzen
      @IanHoltzhauzen 4 года назад

      @@liveandletlive2894 when I pull my chock or hot start lever is out nothing happens does that mean I am running to rich?

    • @liveandletlive2894
      @liveandletlive2894 4 года назад

      @@IanHoltzhauzen sound like your running rich....a choke just richens the mixture so if that didnt affect it I'd assume your running rich but I can be 25 different things...did you try adjusting your idle screw?

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  • @martyyork8258
    @martyyork8258 2 года назад

    Mechanic not knowing the proper way to set the float height. I found out that a lot of people will take them hold them upside down until the float is level and call it good.

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  • @andrewharissiadis9810
    @andrewharissiadis9810 7 лет назад +1

    I have a 08 crf 450 that starts , idles and excelerates perfect but when throttle is constant at 1/3 to 3/4 it pops and hesitates ..
    could it be float height..?

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    • @jbraz8
      @jbraz8 6 лет назад +1

      Andrew Harissiadis I got the same bike. Start by cleaning your air filter. Then you want to pull your carb out, clean out the Jets check the float but I'm guessing your float is fine. Put it all back together turn your idle down a little below normal idle speed and adjust your fuel air screw on the bottom side of your carburetor untill you get the smoothest idle. Another way to check your air fuel screw is to pull the hot start and if the engine revs just slightly then you have it set properly but you don't want it on the high side of the low side you wanted in the middle so once you get your motor to rev up slightly using the hotstart start, find it in the middle in terms of the fuel air screw. Hope that helps. Worst part is if you don't already know is that you need a specific tool from Honda to adjust that fuel screw or take your cover part to adjust it or remove it by taking your carb out and apart to install an after-market fuel air screw that you can adjust from the outside of the carburetor easily.

  • @dylansteele8842
    @dylansteele8842 6 лет назад +1

    Wasn't laying it on the bench so that all of the wait was off of the valve instead he probably had it standing up as you showed earlier in the video which would result in the float weight being on the needle valve and from a standing straight up and down it would look like it sets just perfect but as you showed when you lay it down on its side it's incorrect very very easy mistake not very many people would think about it

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  • @onthemoney7237
    @onthemoney7237 3 года назад

    If the float level is off will the engine run lean and stall during idle I have lots of new parts and everything is very clean bing 54 carbs ? Thanks comments please . 👍

    • @onthemoney7237
      @onthemoney7237 3 года назад

      Air fuel screw set at factory half turn out tried moving it some didn’t help carbs are synchronized

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  • @mrdancehard
    @mrdancehard 6 лет назад +1

    I put my carburator back an teh bike start and then go off and don't start again like to much gasoline 125 cr honda 1991

  • @jimmadonna1436
    @jimmadonna1436 5 лет назад

    The person who adjusted the float height wasn't holding the carb at a 45 degree angle.

  • @gypsymanjeff2184
    @gypsymanjeff2184 4 года назад +1

    overflow provlem

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  • @kingfishstacy
    @kingfishstacy 2 месяца назад

    Leaky carb float needle not seating

  • @shanemyers4142
    @shanemyers4142 Год назад

    Probably cause it was not set at the right angle is my guess.

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  • @rusticb2850
    @rusticb2850 4 года назад +1

    Lean due to high altitude.. possibly

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  • @brettfinley5158
    @brettfinley5158 Год назад

    I think you have a bit of parallax error in your measurement at 3:28. The only real accurate way to measure that height is to have some sort of device that can sit on the seal surface with an arm that hovers over to the float at a 8.0 mm height.

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  • @michaelthomas788
    @michaelthomas788 4 года назад +1

    It is obvious the person that was in there before you did not know what they were doing they had no experience around motorcycles.

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  • @Dropsix
    @Dropsix 5 лет назад +1

    I’m lost. Manual for the 2004 yz450f says to hold the carb upside down.
    See this post.
    thumpertalk.com/forums/topic/553485-08-yfz-450-float-level/?do=findComment&comment=5296233
    Just want to make sure I’m understanding this correctly. I don’t want to install my carb on my bike until I’m 100% as it’s a bitch to install.

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  • @otteroptimistic6426
    @otteroptimistic6426 3 года назад

    He took a shortcut is what it seems

  • @beeasy4360
    @beeasy4360 3 года назад

    People read books most books don’t tell u set at a angle like the Honda Odyssey fl350 real pain book says 16 mm but 16 mm look crazy lean

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    • @beeasy4360
      @beeasy4360 3 года назад

      @@How2Wrench also will putting a k and n air filter on a 2 stroke make it more lean or should I stay with stock set up does it make a difference it’s a fl350 Honda Odyssey 1985

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      @beeasy4360 3 года назад

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  • @thomasdavis5421
    @thomasdavis5421 Год назад

    Float was probably set incorrectly because these are notorious for leaking when the fuel is on and the engines off or they lacked knowledge.

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  • @VanHorny
    @VanHorny 5 месяцев назад

    Smaller fuel line

  • @user-tr4pj5dr8v
    @user-tr4pj5dr8v 23 дня назад

    так надо чтоб язычек касался или давил на кончик иглы который пружинит?

  • @ArJuna22
    @ArJuna22 5 лет назад

    This is the fourth video I've watched to learn how to set the float adjustment on my 2004 Yamaha YZ-250F and NONE of them ever shows how to adjust and only just how high it should be. I just rebuilt the entire carburetor because it was leaking fuel. It had a ton of black large particles in it. Now it's extremely clean with all the critical parts and it still leaks. I'm assuming the floats needs adjustment, but the service manual gives no indication of how to do this. Neither do any of the videos like this one that claim to show this.

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  • @jclose634
    @jclose634 6 лет назад

    Yamaha actually states to adjust it when upside down

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    • @jclose634
      @jclose634 6 лет назад +1

      Shane Conley your video asked why it would be set the way it may have been. My reply was simply a theory as to why. For example 4-11 of a 2003 yz250 2 stroke manual says with it upside down. If one didn't understand the notes below that comment, one could easily set it the way the one in the video was. I just went thru the same issues as your video did on a friends bike. I had to ref the manual as I wasn't sure of the target height. Wasn't saying your method was wrong.

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    @MrBlps Год назад

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  • @jacobschonert9540
    @jacobschonert9540 5 лет назад +2

    The guy lived in high altitude

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  • @keatonhannah5735
    @keatonhannah5735 4 года назад

    Cracked reeds

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  • @elihood2546
    @elihood2546 4 года назад

    Whoever, set it upside down on the bench to set float level. Because I just did, lol.

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