Pulling The Power Out Of The 512 Stroker Raised Block - Part 2 - Engine Power S3, E10
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
- Team tops its 512 Mopar stroker with Trick Flow’s slick new big-block heads and intake, then hits the dyno.
0:00 - Intro
0:17 - Overview of Part 1
1:40 - Final Assembly of the Big Block
7:10 - Prepping the 512 Stroker for the Dyno
11:40 - Dyno Runs
16:40 - Tech Tip: Rocker Options
Watch Part 1: Turning A Junkyard 440 Into A 512 Stroker Raised Block
• Turning A Junkyard 440...
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PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
ARP: Assembly Lubricant, for Engine Assembly and Fastener Installation, Ultra Torque, 1 Pint, Each
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ARP: Main Studs, 2-Bolt Main, Mopar, Small, Big Block, B, LA, RB, Kit
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ARP: Cylinder Head Studs, Hex Nuts, Chrysler, Big Block, with Stock, Edelbrock RPM Heads, Kit
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Cometic Gasket, Inc.: Head Gasket, MLS, 4.250 in. Bore, .027 in. Compressed Thickness, Chrysler, Dodge, Plymouth, Each
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Comp Cams: Lifters, Hydraulic Roller, Vertical Link Bar, Mopar, Big Block, Set of 16
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E3 Spark Plugs: Spark Plug, E3, Tapered Seat, 14mm Thread, .440 in. Reach, Projected Tip, Resistor, Each
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Harland Sharp: Rocker Arms, Shaft Mount, 1.6 Ratio, Aluminum, Roller Rockers, Chrysler, Big Block, B/RB, Kit
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Hooker Headers: Headers, Super Competition, Full-Length, Steel, Ceramic Coated, Dodge, Plymouth, Big Block, B, RB, Pair
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Meziere Enterprises,Inc.: Water Pump, 300 Series, Electric, 55 gpm, Billet Aluminum, Black Anodized, Chrysler, Big Block/Hemi, Each
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MSD Ignition: Distributor, Pro-Billet, Magnetic Trigger, Mechanical Advance, Chrysler, 413, 426, 440, Each
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MSD Ignition: Spark Plug Wires, Super Conductor, Spiral Core, 8.5mm, Red, Multi-Angle Boots, Chrysler, 400/440, Set
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Quick Fuel Technology Inc.: Carburetor, Black Diamond Q-Series, 950 cfm, Mechanical Secondary, 4-Barrel, Square Bore, Drag Race, Each
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Summit Racing: Mopar Performance, Oil Pump Driveshaft, Distributor Gear, Chrysler, Dodge, Plymouth, Big Block, B/RB, Each
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Summit Racing: Wilson Manifolds, Carburetor Spacer, Aluminum, 1 in. Thick, Tapered Combo, Square Bore, Each
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Summit Racing: Valve Covers, Tall, Cast Aluminum, Polished, Plain, Big Block Chrysler, Pair
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Trick Flow Specialties: Cylinder Head, PowerPort® 240, Aluminum, Assembled, 78cc Chamber, Mopar, Big Block, Each
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Trick Flow Specialties: Intake Manifold, Track Heat®, Aluminum, Single Plane, High Rise, Square Bore, Chrysler 440, Each
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440Source.com: 512 Cubic-Inch Stroker Kit With Platinum Series Crank, Rods, And Pistons, With Clevite H Series Bearings And Total Seal Rings
Goodson Shop Supplies: Highly refined petroleum product Contains no lead, graphite or minerals, Wont corrode fie surfaces, Won't emulsify with cooling liquids, Surfaces stay lubed and protected, 4 oz tube
Pace Performance: Go EFI 8 - 1200HP Power Adder Plus, Eight-Injector Throttle Body EFI Suitable for up to 1200 HP
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Shacklett Automotive Machine: Family-owned and operated machine shop repairs cylinder heads, engines and motors; performance work and dyno testing available.
Stephens Performance: Pictures and Edit Material
The Industrial Depot: Fasteners, Hardware, and Shop Supplies
Trend Performance: Custom Length 3/8 dia. Pushrod Set, Mopar 
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Great power and torque on that mopar.
I will always stick to a carburetor for my older vehicles.
Me being a Mopar dude, I say thank you for the build. I love the ideas. I’m building one big engine for a drag car. That build is very nice.
the heads are much better than the Edelbrock heads.
#Mopar
Nice build guys. Thank you for building a 440 MoPar. Though they are 7 decades old, they can still make enough power to be respectable on the street or strip and do it reliably as well. Bravo, good job. 631hp and 643LbFt is enough to put even a heavy old B-Body in the 10's on pump gas.
The 440 engine weighs in at about 670. Not bad. At it's creation in '58, it was a light weight modern replacement for the very heavy 1st gen Hemi. 😊😊
With aluminum heads intake and water pump you can knock off over 100 lb of the weight you posted@@managementhawaiianisles3235
Oh boy you guys make my mouth water with these mopar builds
You must have missed the small block 410 stroker build
@@BuckI2Bdad nope got that one saved
@@BuckI2Bdad never saw the dyno session for that 410 build: did it ever air?
@@joeljenkins2876 no sir
Any engine rebuild videos that pop up automatically gets my attention. Gearhead by heart.
Fantastic for a mismatched setup. With an engine that larg and high rev intake you should have used the 270 heads as thay flow more and are higher reving heads.
Do a comparison, I'd love to watch.
The big MOPAR wedge engine ✊🏻👍👌
Carb for the win again lol!! Not as good for everything but Wide open they make them scoot!
Not just wide open. The entire curve.
Fitech is not the standard for efi. It's more or less the base level. Just saying.
@@rudybarton1171 You are correct, but the end results are the same when comparing a carb to fi. FI meaning fuel injection as a whole, not a specific type. A Holley Sniper, apples to apples, comes the closest to matching power.
850 cfm 34 degrees of timing don't think I would have went with the dish more of a flat but it would have raised the compression
@@rudybarton1171 - FiTech is Chinese junk. I used to respect the guys on the show but I now see them in as marketing agents for second tier products like FiTech and E3 (junk) spark plugs.
replace Hydralic lifters with solid rollers and camshaft tighten lobe seperation, then switch to T/F 270 power ports, along with ported intake match ports and pick up 50 75 more HP
Thank you for showing the true value of a carburetor!!!
Always great content sure miss Saturday mornings with the power block! That was my Saturday morning go to for years, but I'm sure glad to try to keep up with you guys on RUclips! Thank you very much
Look at that, the carb beats the brand new tech in power
The carb is new tech. The EFI is better at fuel economy and over time will prove more reliable, easier starts, better engine wear due to a lack of soaking the cylinder walls with an over rich mixture.
No it wont
No it wont
No it wont
No it wont
This is art love watching you two.
I just love all your budget builds.
Nothing better than a good ole carb sitting on top
Nice work guys…I have that same set up in an 88 trk. Dan Dvorak built it a few years back as well as a couple others for me. RIP Dan…MOPAR2YA 🇺🇸
So much for the EFI! Carbs forever here!
I like the fact that guys are sharing their ideas online like this. If I could change one thing, it would be to ditch the 1.6 rocker ratios for 1.7. If you don't pick up improved head flow from that, on a modest duration cam, then you have cylinder heads that aren't worth using. 1.7 ratio does increase effective duration but only a tiny bit. There is a reason so many GM crate engines don't mince around with 1.5 or 1.6 any more. The same scientific principal applies to big blocks. Yes, the 1.7 is not in the catalog, but you guys already had a custom cam made, so why not have T&D make your rockers. They just borrow the heads for a month. No extra charge.
The Performance Industry must live.... Forever!
Oh my God, it's, it's a Mopar !!!!!!
great build guys . Don't forget the 2 steel bars for the end of the valley pan . Possible oil leak down the road . Keep up the great work !
I saw that miss also. Only mopar guys would see that! 👍🏻
Yes the steel bars. Understand we have to offer leaneancy for the chevy guys, who try hard, but really don't know MoPars.😅
Great work as always. I like the 02 sensor fitting..
Yes love it , watching you I learn things all the time. just got to remember it right right well see y’all next time see ya bye.
I’d like to see a 440 with multi-point fuel injection and a mild cam with a turbo, I bet it would wake right up and perform well
You get what your given ..
The head design for a stock style 440 is terrible and limited to roughly 240cfm. To look at an LS head and compare it visually to a 440 I dont see much difference, but there is alot, like 100 cfm difference. a 440 with a big cam and turbo at 15psi might make 600-900hp. a LS/GenIII Hemi is gonna make alot more than that on 15psi and street gas.
@@Arthagnou did he say ls? no. he said 440.
@@Arthagnou - Yep, while the heads on this engine are a big improvement over stock they still don’t flow as well as a good LS head. This is shown by the power curve with HP below peak torque. Heads are holding back this engine.
@@danmyers9372 B1 heads and the acompanying parts puts this engine normally aspirated anywhere you want it,mopar speaking,with a turbo who knows,i've never seen one pressurized,i know they put gmc blowers on them in the old days,just weeks before the 426 hemis come out and stayed on top,forever
An I love that you guys are well aware that any almost any radical change in the valve train of a mopar requires a custom length pushrod. Due to shaft rockers lifter plunger depth cannot be easily adjusted otherwise.
Loved this show
MOPAR! One of the things we love America :D
This duo is without a doubt amazing.
🤣🤣. These guys are marketing whores for companies pushing junk products like FiTech and E3.
Great vid, really enjoyed!! 👍👍👍
Excellent build. I played around with 383s back in the early '70s. 😉
Enjoy your show been watch for some time any person has an AMERICAN CAR can really do they own work after watching your shows. Good information wish I could find a show like this on Japanese cars, that what I been working on FOREVER lol. Kudos for your show good craftsman work. I understand engine are basically the same but like anything knowledge money make all the difference.
I've been looking for this setup for a while, it's what I have almost exactly.. going into a 1955 f100 ford truck restomod.. Torque-apotomus!
Lookin to do the same with 55 dodge C1 truck
Gave up to soon, still a lot of power left in tuning, timing and fuel ratio adjustment. What temperature was It? A few degrees will make,or lose power. Don't get me wrong, great build, can't get enough of those Mopars! Keep up the good work!!!!
Very cool build
Great engine
Good video guys.
Nicely done. 👍👍
man I love this channel
Beautiful!!
I would like to see you guys build an engine for an RV. Taking into account durability and torque for hillclimbing in the Rocky Mountains to cooling in Death Valley.
These are Chevy guys, they’d struggle to find the power where it needs it. But it would be interesting, especially on a low compression, high dynamic pure torque build.
All engines do is compress air. Take the numbers, letters and symbols off them and they’re fundamentally the same. Brand is irrelevant.
@@jaredmayer3960 lol no. noooo.
@@jaredmayer3960 The quality of components matter.
@@phonebackup8132 yep the quality of components matters. I don’t get what you mean here? Any component from Ford, GM or Dodge are fundamentally the same.
That is some gooooood N/A power.
Thus is old but cool.
Not bad for a VERY conservative, build, but those 240 heads, out of the box intake and pedestrian camshaft, belong on 440ci pump gas deal. Not on a 512. If you're going to build an engine that small (4.25 stroke), out of a 10.720 deck height block, the head should be the Indy 440-1, with the Indy intake and a camshaft to match. The Max Wedge port window is a must on a stroked 440/400 unless it's for an extremely low rpm land yacht.
Why do I say this??? Because I ran a 4.380 x 4.375 combination, with the 440-1 head/manifold, 11.2-1 compression, a camshaft that made peak power at 6700rpm and made 811hp and 696tq on 93 octane, with a 1050 dominator carb. I drove it around like gas was free and ran consistent 9.40s at a tick over 3400lbs.
Any place we can go to see the total cost of this build?
Needed the 1350cfm of the old 6 pack for that 440. 😉
Nice build
Should have put the front and back bars on the valley pan. You're putting a lot of faith in the 3 bolts and thin pan.
I didn't see an oil pan gasket used between the windage tray & oil pan either. I had to rewind & look again to make sure
How many pens from the pocket were used in the build of this engine?
Also mention checking the plugs to determine the heat range of the plugs.
Good stuff!👍🏽👍🏽
I agree Reg!
Carborator are The king!!!
I'm all in mopar 👍🏻
Shouldn't have to manually change timing if they actually used the timing control. Set the base, make sure it matches the ecu setting, and go from there
I'd like to see it under the hood of my 65' Coronet 500!!!
For the average guy who is a street racer this is a big dollar motor but a good option for a bracket racer at the track. A 6.4 Gen 3 hemi with a mild cam,porting the heads and a upgraded intake and you are close in power for a lot less money.
😂 the carburetor spanked that Smart E.F.I
If you had used an MSD Atomic EFI unit the timing could have been EFI unit controlled and completely tunable to build your own curve in that locked out MSD distributor. That means more power across the entire RPM range. It's also boost ready turbocharging centrifugal blower or a roots style blower and can be used with E-85 just add 20% more cubic inches during setup on the handheld tuner.
Stock 429CJ uses guide plates from the factory. Stock heads are awful, but Trick Flow can help out greatly 👍
Also emphasize using dielectric grease one the plug boots!!!
محرك جبار اليس كذالك 💪💪💪👍👍👍👍
I would love to see you guys build a Chrysler 230 flathead L6.
1 point on parts check while installing are the rocker adjuster so it gets kit by oil when the cup of the pushrod is in the up/no pressure position.I made an oil restrictor for the rocker arms supply in the rocker stand I put a Mig welding tip drilled to .080/.100" and cut to length where the stud will hold it in the stand.
Nice 😁
Question you guys don't sandwich the valley cover with gasket?
I'd like to see you do a build on regular gas, $5 gal for high grade gas in northern states
What ever happened to the stroker small block Mopar you guys built last year? I never saw a Dyno run on that one.
@Jay Riley yup if u watch close you can see the cup and ball push rods they require for LA , didn’t even have the correct rockers either,Ouch…. I have a 408 mag with the trick flows my push rods are ball and ball with oil passage.
@Jay Riley LOL i remember that.
Hey fellas, what carb and cfm did you use there?? Great video! Mopar or no car. Carb all day long for me. Free hp is amazing.
I'm not a Mopar guy but I've heard that the 400 std deck block has a bigger bore. Didn't Hot Rod Garage put a shorter deck stroker in a Fury wagon?
I have a Mopar 360 that's bored, stroked and internally balanced to 408ci. I got a good deal on it, so why not. I want to build it for performance daily driving and retain the 89 octane requirement. I can appreciate videos builds like this to put in perspective what I'm trying to do.
They did a 408
537hp 550trq.check out link.ruclips.net/video/lb7kKjQcR9w/видео.html
@@dtruth5769 I'll check it out and report back in a few. Thanks
It'a ALL in the heads.
I like everything other than the spark plugs should’ve been champion
How did you control the distributor with the carb? It was plugged into the EFI earlier...
Stupid question…. Those NOS bosses on the intake runners…. Could you drill those for injectors and use a throttle body for air control? Like to upgrade to EFI…
When you guys are finished with these engines, what happens to them? Are they for sale?
Swap those pistons and increase the compression, then add in a bit kore aggressive cam and that engine should see closer to 700
Since the fitech is supposed to be the all th@t how did the carb get one up? Jets and a leaner burn, ?
Awesome! Carburetor for the horsepower win! No wires needed.......
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You put NoS in the big block Ford with pump gas. I’d like to know if this Mopar will break 1000hp on NoS also?
Did I miss something? Is this efi system using a trigger wheel or just using distributor as a trigger?
what is that specific torque wrench that clicks that hes using, i desperately need one
Why did the carb make more power? Wish they would have discussed that. I would assume that the FI would provide as much fuel as the carb and the fuel delivery looks great, so why the difference?
Being that it’s 2 bolt main block and considering everything they did to the engine I’m surprised they didn’t install a stud girdle?
Would be nice to see that engine with a six pack manifold.
Would it be okay to use dielectric grease on the boots on the wires
So the carb put out MORE power and torque than the fuel injection?
Hey Pat, Thank you for using "Pound Feet" instead of "Foot Pounds". For a Mechanic it means the same, but for an Engineer it is different. Cheers, Ed
Thank you for running the 440 / 500 motor. 9.00 second et s are nothing the laugh at
thank you for bringing him back.. the other guy was not worth it!
why don't you guys build a low deck with B1 original heads that have been flowed? a full race application like the 532 BBC you built or the big block ford?
Why is an episode from 2016 just now being posted? 🤨
This was a nice, but what would it take to reach 700hp?
Love your guys stuff! Maybe one day you guys would wanna have fun with a Toyota 5vz-fe with the supercharger….
I agree bro the 3.4 is a good v6 i think they had trd models with a m90... dude above is lame btw... what a fu*kn tool...
I love mini trucks rock crawled the shit outa my 81.
@@bigboreracing356 bruh I have a 6.4 scatpack but I like to go into the mountains with my runner. Because well if you had a half a brain you’d understand I prefer not to slam my expensive car on a bunch of boulders. Idk why you so angry. It’s shocking how little control over your emotions you have. You need to chill. Besides the 3.4 is a fantastic engine it has the red supercharger on it and makes great power. Idk what ur problem is. Chill.
@@jonathanschrader7881 🤝😆 hah thanks! Lotta those 6cylinders are great! The Cherokee in-line 6 is just as durable and torque capable as the 3.4 v6. The 81 is a gorgeous machine! I’m glad it got to see usage! Besides Toyota’s last forever so it’s fun to see how time affects it!
That’s about the engine I put in my wife’s car. 71 Challenger with a Sixpack
Compression is kinda low for big valve aluminum heads? 11 1/2 to 1 would make way more power and still run on pump gas!
Now swap a 4500 style carb and a tapered 4500 to 4150 adapter on it . I have a 512 with a 1195 demon and it makes 770 hp...
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Swap those Harland Sharpe rockers out for a Comp ProMagnum stainless set, T&D or Hughes Engines rockers. Crane and Harland aluminum rockers will fail its only a matter of time with a healthy cam.
Hey can you guys do something with the 5.2 engine that was in the 2nd gen Dakota? I'm getting one for free and would like to know what I can do with it.
Was this block ever checked for core shift with Sonic testing?
93 octane gas is great! Now where the heck do you find it?
Your advertisement for E3 is wrong. They do not make a plug for my 2018 Silverado 5.3l. According to the search box on their website.
I didn't hear the camshaft specs mentioned, unless I missed it? I heard him say custom grind though.
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I'm going to build the 440 I have to this spec. Looking at the Harland/Sharp rockers assemblies onnthe Summit sight I see many options. Can you provide me with the part number for the 1.6 ratio Rockers you used? The only ones I can assume by the price you mentioned are 1.5. Great info and well put together video. Thanks, Jeff
My engine builder had to do some machining to fit those rockers properly on the 240 Trickflow heads. Just an FYI