You seem to have completely missed the point of a PHEVs compared to HEV, the Seal's 80km EV only range means people like me with solar panels can charge their car to go to work and never have to refuel their tank. This saves on average $3k per year or $30k over 10 years and better for the planet.
@@tedk-42EV is more expensive than PHEV, and for daily commute, we don't need that much of the range, and it is more convenient when you need to drive it intercity.
Sealion 6 PHEV is essentially an EV whereas Sportage is still a traditional hybrid petrol car. Not really an Apple-to-apple comparison. Sealion 6 is like a generation ahead.
The obvious but not mentioned is that when BYD become plugless and you don't charge it at all, it is still a full hybrid. So now you know who is better value. Like many other 2nd gen Chinese PHEVs and Mazda and Mitsi, it is the same. Unfortunately Kia still got this dated HEV to the market to compete.
@@IoniqIonityIonna again it's pointless comparing apple to orange. Full EV Sealion 7 is coming soon. Let's see which is better. BYD Sealion 7 vs Kia EV 5.
BYD DMI is quite different from other systems. In DMI, the gasoline engine mainly works as a generator, creating electricity to charge the battery or power the electric motor. In a regular hybrid, the engine usually drives the wheels directly, with the electric motor helping out during acceleration or at low speeds. Another lesser-known feature of BYD DMI is that it can use gasoline to generate power for VTL (Vehicle to Load). It’s like having a portable gasoline generator for camping or as a backup power source for your home, which is amazing!
Yeah it's pretty cool, the V2L function even features two power points via a handy dongle, shown in the video. The thing with the BYD is that if you're not regularly charging it you're lugging around an extra 150kg of weight, and this can make it quite thirsty acting purely as a generator.
The obvious but not mentioned is that when BYD become plugless and you don't charge it at all, it is still a full hybrid. So now you know who is better value. Like many other 2nd gen Chinese PHEVs and Mazda and Mitsi, it is the same. Unfortunately Kia still got this dated HEV to the market to compete.
Yeah pretty much. But look at what people are buying - Toyota hybrids by the 10s of thousands. Buyer inclinations will change with models like the Sealion 6 which are more affordable.
@@mingouczjcz3800 and these magical blade batteries failed while going at 100km/h. BYD didn’t want to replace the battery on warranty until the media intervened
The BYD leaves that Kia for dead. It goes quick without noise or fuss and just hangs on twisting open roads. And you don’t have to plug it in to keep the battery charged. You go easy with your right foot the petrol motor only charges the battery, even at highway speed.
I did exactly that 9 days ago, after considering the Sportage , outlander and Rav 4 , in the end it was not even a contest for me, I got the Premium Sealion 6 and couldn't be happier, I live in the inner west in Sydney, we go out once a fortnight out of Sydney, our Solar generates 100+ kw a day + 60 kw of battery storage, so for us plugging the car daily is so easy, Did not get a full EV, because we have a young family that on long trips I did not want to subject them to waits and charger availability with a fully EV car.
@@RichardJoashTan remorse will set in soon after your family and friends get the inferiority comment. No want wants to be seen in a PRC vehicle. It’s a reputation suicide owning one
BYD fine print warranty? BYD just being upfront on this. Have you seen KIA fine print warranty? They claim 7 years, but: "The items specified below are not covered by the KIA New Vehicle Warranty: • Replenishment or replacement of oil, fluids, coolant, wiper blades, fan belts, filters, brake and clutch linings, spark plugs, light globes, gaskets and so on, as a result of normal wear and tear", "12V Auxiliary Battery : The original engine electrical system battery is fully covered for the first 2 years", "The air conditioner refrigerant charge is covered for the first (1st) Year", "3 Year AV (Audio) and AVN (Audio + Navigation) Warranty"
Pick one or the other but if your gonna have a partner , pick the one who can get ya to shops or work locally on cheaper home electric miles , got a prettier or more sexy face and if on hols or weekends you decide to have a friend's or family picnic day trip which I guess is the Der Der Der Der drum roll , THE sea lion 😅 .
BYD ATTO3 owner in Canberra was denied battery warranty claim after the battery dies while he was travelling at 100km/h. Only after media intervention, BYD agreed to replace the battery but it took them 8 months. So much for BYD blade battery. No one wants as used BYd
@@yslee1401 They replaced his battery under warranty and refused to refund because 3 months already passed. Happens to all brands just google Toyota engine failure. There will be the same kind of articles about how Toyota won't help, the car died and so on.
I like the Sealion, although more expensive, you get more features, and if I can get at least 70 km pure EV, I may only be filling up 6-7 times per year saving me money and time
not a bad comparison review - up until the winner - the Kia? And for what? aussie-tuned suspension and not needing pluggin in? what a joke - the BYD is miles ahead in every possible metric including how its suspension is tuned - because it's tuned for comfort and a plush ride - we're talking chalk and cheese buddy.
It was an incredibly close call for the win, for sure, and the data shows that people are cross-shopping these vehicles. Did you know a lot of people cross shop the same brand too?
Did you say that the Kia runs only on 2km for it's pure EV settings? HUUUUGE deal breaker! What tf... that won't even take me halfway into my commute! The point of a Hybrid is that you should mostly be using the batteries and only use the petrol for long distances, in places where chargers are not easily accesible, or if you are going out of the city. I'll take the BYD thank you!
Kia's tiny battery and electric motor are there only to assist its petrol engine with start/stop and things like that. It was never designed to be a fully functional motor for the car. The same is true for all non-plugin hybrids.
6:25 The interior of Seal is definitely way more luxurious than Kia, All most on par with mid range Merc and Beamers and half the price, definitely a no brainer choice for me if I in the market for one...
Plug in by far. I think people are freaking out about the idea of charging their car overnight, when it's literally sitting idle. But when it saves you chunk of money at the pump it's a game changer.
True, but a lot of Australian's don't have off-street parking. So they must park on the street and often don't get to park near their dwelling. One of the reasons why regular HEVs are selling in much greater numbers than PHEVs.
@@carsales Hmmmm I've been hearing this alot but when you look at our sprawling suburbs it doesn't sound right. In the 2021 Census, only 16% reported their housing type as a unit, the majority of the rest are houses and town houses. Whilst I can't confirm, I'm sure the majority would have off street parking.
Hilarious ... so the Kia wins cos it has ''aussie tuned' suspension (there's so much jingoism in this from these reviewers) and you don't have to plug it in! So after about 2kms its noisy engine always kicks in costing you dollars 'cos the engine is cold and inefficient on short urban trips. I have the lower spec Dynamic, which is about the same price as this Kia, (but still offers more features). In city driving it does 90kms easy on pure EV, and has returned 5.1l/100 on highway trips, so thats a range of over 1,200kms. I charge the car about every 3rd night , a process that takes about a minute - and a full charge costs me about $3.50 for 90kms. The BYD is a comfortable drive and extremely quiet, as is the engine when it eventually comes on when you leave the city on long trips. BYD are going to do very well.
The obvious but not mentioned is that when BYD become plugless and you don't charge it at all, it is still a full hybrid. So now you know who is better value. Like many other 2nd gen Chinese PHEVs and Mazda and Mitsi, it is the same. Unfortunately Kia still got this dated HEV to the market to compete.
mate. they've harden up the suspension and call it "aussie tuned". Sealion 6 is built for comfort which most families prefer for urban driving. the reviewer will prob give Model Y full marks for car "dynamic" since it's rock hard with awesome cornering performance.
Also a Sealion 6 owner here. Go sign up for EV night saver plan buddy! It only costs me approx. $1.40 per charge every day. That's what I get thru AGL charging scheduled from 12am - 6am.
why not use the Dynamic model it's less money and also like the Kia its front wheel drive so it's direct competitor looks like this is a paid as for Kia by the presenter
Recent BYD software update included temperature and fan control fine tuning from any screen by using three finger swipe up/down, left/right to eliminate having to go into air con settings to change. Excellent update. However, fan direction is still from air con setting screen.
I think this company is just trying to sell whatever left of Sportage commitment they agreed to with Kia 😂, just my two cents after watching this review. As someone has said, I think it’s two different cars, I have had my SL6 for the past 2 weeks now and loving it, took the delivery in Hobart, and have driven it from Hobart to Launceston, the EV mode setup to 75% gave me about 80km before the HEV kicked in. And by the time I arrived in Lonnie, the HEV was about 112KM and EV was about 87km. I noticed it charged during down hill and brakes and gave me additional 7-8km. And the reason I chose this car was of the limited charging stations across Australia if one is to go for long distance, which I’m planning to do.
In China, the world's largest auto market, South Korean automakers have sold most of their production lines as their share of the market has fallen rapidly to 1 percent from a peak of 8 percent, as they have been unable to compete with a host of Chinese automakers led by BYD. Due to the lack of competitiveness, it is estimated that Korean cars will soon be forced to completely withdraw from the Chinese market, and the same situation will soon happen in other countries.
@@zimuli3549 PRC vehicle sales have tanked due to their economic implosion post collapse of China Evergrande and Country Garden. With Foxconn, Flexteonics, Sony, Panasonic & many other foreign firms pulling out, just a matter of time PRC becomes a banana republic
The worst presentation ever seen. How is it possible to compare 2 different cars, one full hybrid without full equipment and another plug in hybrid with full equipment and say that Kia does not have ventilation in the seats and other things.
@@carsales So why wasn't this part of your review. Seems significant that in the BYD you don't need to take your eyes off the road to adjust the air conditioning.
@@stephenhopkins4173press button on steering wheel it activates, and just say open sun shade and it replies and does it. Set temperature too 23, and it does it. Press button system turns off. Simples.
This is really useful information for me. It seems that none of the RUclips presenters pay much attention to the drive-train & battery technology, and the terms Hybrid, Plug-in Hybrid don't adequately indicate how they compare. I have no interest in the Toyota concept of a complex integrated ICE/Electric with a tiny NiMH battery. A Range extender concept such as the Chevrolet/Holden Volt, or the Nissan Electric Transmission needs different terminology to discriminate. The lack of understanding of the chemical difference between "Iron" and "Ion" is very disappointing. I'd buy a range-extender if there was a suitable offering, but it looks like it'll be a straight EV.
If you don't have off-street parking or anywhere to charge, it's a big issue. Hence why plug-in hybrids make up a small percentage of overall car sales at present. However, it is growing, along with infrastructure. Some cool innovations like wallbox chargers on suburban streets are being trialled which are good for inner-city types with on-street parking.
He says never needs plugging in as an advantage. The BYD doesn't 'need' plugging in either, you can keep driving it without plugging it in. Plugging in provides an additional advantage to use cheaper electricity to power it.
So the KIA never needs plugging in, but is still less economical than the BYD if you never plug it in either. Seems the theory is that having the ability to plug in is seen as a disadvantage, even when the vehicle is more economical if even if you can't or don't wish to plug in.
Sealion 6 smashes it out of the park. You can basically drive it for free if you have solar for your daily commute. So you are immune to petrol prices, yet you are also protected from range anxiety. Bit of an apples to oranges comparison. The only negative about BYD is stupidly complex warranty. Whoever came up with that idea needs to do a 3 year Marketing course, because it's a serious drawback, especially when BYD cars are well made and the LFP Blade batteries last basically for ever.
You can use sealion just like an ICE car, you can only refuel and never charge it, it's still have more fuel-efficient than Toyota and Kia's HEV system, Its engine functions only as a generator, running at a specific RPM, making it quieter and more efficient.
On a novated lease BYD pays no FBT. KIA pays full FBT. You also never need to plug in the BYD. And the range of the BYD's battery means for most people if you plug it in and drive around the city it is essentially an EV. Also, you can use voice control for most things on the BYD, including air conditioning so you can keep your eyes on the road. Its really simple, works well and yet the reviewer doesn't bother to even mention it. The review seems to miss the point on pretty much everything - really poor. Much better reviews out there.
All I know is that BYD battery warranty is as good as none. ATTO3 Canberra owner can attest to that. The system went belly up travelling at 100km/h. BYD denied warranty claim until media intervened
I took the Sealion for a test drive today and was absolutely blown away. After that, I tried the Tesla Model Y, but honestly, it felt a bit underwhelming. At 6'1" and a larger guy, I found the Sealion to be much more comfortable, especially with good headroom in the back-unlike the Tesla Model Y, where my head was hitting the roof. I was able to adjust my driving seat all the way back, leaving plenty of room for someone to sit behind me. I’m really impressed! I also tested the Camry, which was nice, but it just didn’t compare to the Sealion. Plus, I’m not too fussy about not having a spare tyre; I hardly drive, mainly in urban areas, and I always change my tyres when they’re nearing their expiration. I’ve never had any issues in the last 20 years. I'm definitely tempted!
@@yslee1401 At least they are actively shaking up the market by holding non-PRC companies accountable for improving their standards, particularly in interior quality and pricing. With at least five more PCR companies set to enter the market soon, it’s the same rhetoric surrounding Japanese cars in the 60s and 70s.
@@duccik5509 all PRC vehicle buyer remorse sets in within 7 days. Being seen in a PRC vehicle is a reputation kamikaze and the feeling of being looked down sets in really quickly. You would have lost 75% of the car value after signing on the dotted line. Look at the bright side, you will never make this mistake again
@@duccik5509 I am just reminding the public what BYD behavior has been for the Canberra ATTO3 owner. BYD refused warranty claim on a failed battery until the media intervened. They then took another 8 months to return the car.
@@yslee1401 Agree. Hopefully, they'll sort things out soon; otherwise, consumers won't be forgiving. Relying on a third-party distributor isn’t the most effective strategy, after all. I have decided to wait another year to see how the market evolves, especially EV and PHEV sectors. I’d prefer a PHEV from an established company, but they either tend to be unexciting or just out of budget.
Thanks for a great review . Was the 5.7 l/100 km in the BYD achieved with the battery fully charged from the mains before testing began, or is this the figure that could be expected if an owner ignored the plug in functionality ?
The parts (screen wipers, brake pads and filter) covered by 6 months warranty of Sea lion 6 are for the commercial usage which travels over 30,000 per year, such as taxi or Uber. For normal usage, who ever worries about these parts can break in 6 months. Or in other words, these parts will last a many times longer than 6 months for normal driving.
What on earth is a Aussie tuned suspension? Do we have different physics in Australia? Are our roads different? I’ve travelled to lots of places and I’m struggling to think of any significant differences other than the corrugations of dirt track country roads. Cities though are pretty much the same world wide.
6 month warranty on what is mainly consumable items. Atleast they state it - Kia will just fob you off saying they are consumable items when you go to claim. If thats the worst thing to complain about....
For me that drive 45 min to work the softer suspension is very nice, our smaller car is more fun , but the car we use for travel should be comfy like th BYD
Why Australia dont have PHEV toyota Rav4(Rav4 prime) or PHEV Kia sportage etc ?please tell me somebody🙏 Seems like PHEV market is behind here. Not so serious about electric life maybe?
This in not even a comparison. You didn’t really touch on fuel consumption. If you travel less than 70 km most days the BYD would cost much less to run or even for free with the right energy plan or solar panels at home. Very few buyers are interested in driving dynamics for a car that is basically a shopping trolley
Imagine, 60 Liter Gasoline Tank 60 / 5.7 L = 10.53 10.53 * 100 = 1,053 KM still its around 17-18kmpl which is still impressive the reason why it can get longer range is because you have a bigger gasoline tank, not because of the EV scheme
Another so called car expert that doesn't know the short cuts (finger drag across the screen) to adjust the A/C without having to go into a menu. Cudos for mentioning the VTL function on the BYD. That's a huge benefit. Totally agree that the BYD would really benefit from locally tuned suspension. It is quite soft but if you're a city driver, it's going to be comfortable. The whole idea of buying a PHEV is to charge it everyday and use the electric only range most of the time but you then can easily do long trips if you need too. You can fast charge it on long trips as well which is a bonus. My driving would mean that 90% of my trips would be on electric only which would be charged from solar panels for free or on the 8c per kw/h on the overnight electric car rate. The BYD would save me over $6,000 a year. The extra equipment in the BYD also makes it a compelling offer. Electric tailgate, twin wireless phone chargers, lots of extra USB ports, 360 degree camera, heated and ventilated front seat, all lights are LED and head up display.
WTF with every review about BYD cars and the HVAC. Why can't reviewers use the 3 finger swipe to change Temp or fan speed. This reviewer has done little research.
I would love to see a big comparison test with the Honda crv and Hyundai Tucson and kia Sportage and Subaru Forester and Toyota RAV4 and byd Sealion 6 and Mazda cx5 and Mitsubishi Outlander and haval h6 and chery tiggo7 and mahindra xuv700 and Mitsubishi Outlander and nissan Xtrail and ford escape and Honda ZRV and Volkswagen Tiguan and Peugeot 3008 and Renault Koleos and Skoda Karoq and mg hs and ssangyong torres when it arrives in Australia
The obvious but not mentioned is that when BYD become plugless and you don't charge it at all, it is still a full hybrid. So now you know who is better value. Like many other 2nd gen Chinese PHEVs and Mazda and Mitsi, it is the same. Unfortunately Kia still got this dated HEV to the market to compete.
So BYD with dual motors AWD, much bigger battery and 350kg heavier due to PHEV still beats FWD KIA HEV in fuel efficiency even in HEV mode just shows how far behind KIA and other legacy manufacturers.
Why didn’t they compare the GT version with all the bells and whistles instead of the plain Jane cheap model Sportage. At least compare apples with apples and not apples and onions.
Clearly you were paid handsomely by Kia. What an embarrassing comparison. The BYD is years ahead in every aspect and yet you nudge Kia because of its “tuning”. A 10 year old could have done a better comparison.
The Kia belongs to yesteryear technology because it is still a ICE car. While BYD is a NEV. whoever can not see the distinction between these two is unqualified to make such review.
@@IoniqIonityIonna This video is about PHEV Sealion. The BEV version of this vehicle uses the same chassis as this one hence it has less room because it has never been designed as BEV only platform and is not even sold outside China.
@@thearlongpark That can be arguably excuse. Ev3 is egmp but similar with Niro but has large room. Bmw i series, modified ice but has large room. Polestar, ev platform but small room. Ev5 is also not even sold outside China.
When will people understand that quality is directly proportional to price. The reason you buy low quality products is because you are poor. If it weren't for TEMU, you'd have no choice but to rob and get the goods.
@@IoniqIonityIonna Which is the BEV version of this car using the same chassis hence why it has smaller room inside because it never been designed as BEV only platform.
@@thearlongpark That can be arguably excuse. Ev3 is egmp but similar with Niro but has large room. Bmw i series, modified ice but has large room. Polestar, ev platform but small room.
@@IoniqIonityIonna it is not an excuse it's a reality that any PHEV platform has a smaller interior due to having to house engine and transmission and also BYD has other SUV BEV platforms to compete in this segment anyway i.e. Sealion 7 and Song L. BMW i series has smaller interior space compared to BYD Seal and Tesla Model 3. Polestar 2 is not a BEV platform hence why it has a small interior.
Kia is still a fuel car, outdated technology. If you really understand hybrid technology, you will know that BYD is on another level. In addition, for me who works in the city, Hiace can save me a lot of fuel costs. Pure electricity is enough unless I go camping.
You seem to have completely missed the point of a PHEVs compared to HEV, the Seal's 80km EV only range means people like me with solar panels can charge their car to go to work and never have to refuel their tank. This saves on average $3k per year or $30k over 10 years and better for the planet.
Just get an EV dude.
@@tedk-42why if you can have both for peace of mind.
@@tedk-42EV is more expensive than PHEV, and for daily commute, we don't need that much of the range, and it is more convenient when you need to drive it intercity.
@@billshi6005Base model Y cost just as much as Sealion
@@andyyuen84 short range Model Y is $3K more than top of range Sealion 6
Sealion 6 PHEV is essentially an EV whereas Sportage is still a traditional hybrid petrol car. Not really an Apple-to-apple comparison. Sealion 6 is like a generation ahead.
The obvious but not mentioned is that when BYD become plugless and you don't charge it at all, it is still a full hybrid. So now you know who is better value. Like many other 2nd gen Chinese PHEVs and Mazda and Mitsi, it is the same. Unfortunately Kia still got this dated HEV to the market to compete.
@@Deandzzzzzz Kia will have much better resale value than BYD
Sealion is a joke compared to EV5. EV5 is smaller but bigger headroom, legroom, trunk, frunk.
@@IoniqIonityIonna again it's pointless comparing apple to orange. Full EV Sealion 7 is coming soon. Let's see which is better. BYD Sealion 7 vs Kia EV 5.
@@Deandzzzzzz Okay but i'm talking of Song Plus BEV, which looks same as Sealion. Is it different with Sealion 7?
BYD DMI is quite different from other systems. In DMI, the gasoline engine mainly works as a generator, creating electricity to charge the battery or power the electric motor. In a regular hybrid, the engine usually drives the wheels directly, with the electric motor helping out during acceleration or at low speeds. Another lesser-known feature of BYD DMI is that it can use gasoline to generate power for VTL (Vehicle to Load). It’s like having a portable gasoline generator for camping or as a backup power source for your home, which is amazing!
Yeah it's pretty cool, the V2L function even features two power points via a handy dongle, shown in the video. The thing with the BYD is that if you're not regularly charging it you're lugging around an extra 150kg of weight, and this can make it quite thirsty acting purely as a generator.
@@dicky-duck6632 Mitsubishi and Nissan has been using this technology for ages now
@@yslee1401 Mitsubishi and Nissan can use gasoline to supply VTL?
Sealion is a joke compared to EV5. EV5 is smaller but bigger headroom, legroom, trunk, frunk.
and where Mitsubishi and Nissan car?@@yslee1401
Currently only Byd is into the battery-age hybrid technology , while others, such as Toyota and Hyundai, are still in ICE-age hybrid ones.
The obvious but not mentioned is that when BYD become plugless and you don't charge it at all, it is still a full hybrid. So now you know who is better value. Like many other 2nd gen Chinese PHEVs and Mazda and Mitsi, it is the same. Unfortunately Kia still got this dated HEV to the market to compete.
Yeah pretty much. But look at what people are buying - Toyota hybrids by the 10s of thousands. Buyer inclinations will change with models like the Sealion 6 which are more affordable.
@@mingouczjcz3800 but BYDs along with all PRC vehicles have no resale value at all
@@mingouczjcz3800 and these magical blade batteries failed while going at 100km/h. BYD didn’t want to replace the battery on warranty until the media intervened
Sealion is a joke compared to EV5. EV5 is smaller but bigger headroom, legroom, trunk, frunk. 😂
The BYD leaves that Kia for dead. It goes quick without noise or fuss and just hangs on twisting open roads. And you don’t have to plug it in to keep the battery charged. You go easy with your right foot the petrol motor only charges the battery, even at highway speed.
BYDead always dream.. 😂😂
Bring same PHEV from Sportage you little china boy.
That BYDead is so afraid of Sportage PHEV so dreaming PHEV vs HEV...
@21:38 But the true winner is the BYD Sealion 6 because I will buy it fully loaded anyway.
I did exactly that 9 days ago, after considering the Sportage , outlander and Rav 4 , in the end it was not even a contest for me, I got the Premium Sealion 6 and couldn't be happier, I live in the inner west in Sydney, we go out once a fortnight out of Sydney, our Solar generates 100+ kw a day + 60 kw of battery storage, so for us plugging the car daily is so easy, Did not get a full EV, because we have a young family that on long trips I did not want to subject them to waits and charger availability with a fully EV car.
@@RichardJoashTan remorse will set in soon after your family and friends get the inferiority comment. No want wants to be seen in a PRC vehicle. It’s a reputation suicide owning one
Sealion is a joke compared to EV5. EV5 is smaller but bigger headroom, legroom, trunk, frunk. 😅
@@RichardJoashTan CNY0.50 for you
BYD fine print warranty? BYD just being upfront on this. Have you seen KIA fine print warranty? They claim 7 years, but: "The items specified below are not covered by the KIA New Vehicle Warranty:
• Replenishment or replacement of oil, fluids, coolant, wiper blades, fan belts, filters, brake and
clutch linings, spark plugs, light globes, gaskets and so on, as a result of normal wear and tear", "12V Auxiliary Battery : The original engine electrical system battery is fully covered for the first 2 years", "The air conditioner refrigerant charge is covered for the first (1st) Year", "3 Year AV (Audio) and AVN (Audio + Navigation) Warranty"
no duh.. oil, oil filters, spark plugs, headlight bulbs are all consumables that you don't just get covered 7 years free😂
@@Digwind i think this video is sponsored by Kia
Pick one or the other but if your gonna have a partner , pick the one who can get ya to shops or work locally on cheaper home electric miles , got a prettier or more sexy face and if on hols or weekends you decide to have a friend's or family picnic day trip which I guess is the Der Der Der Der drum roll , THE sea lion 😅 .
BYD ATTO3 owner in Canberra was denied battery warranty claim after the battery dies while he was travelling at 100km/h. Only after media intervention, BYD agreed to replace the battery but it took them 8 months. So much for BYD blade battery. No one wants as used BYd
@@yslee1401 They replaced his battery under warranty and refused to refund because 3 months already passed. Happens to all brands just google Toyota engine failure. There will be the same kind of articles about how Toyota won't help, the car died and so on.
I like the Sealion, although more expensive, you get more features, and if I can get at least 70 km pure EV, I may only be filling up 6-7 times per year saving me money and time
not a bad comparison review - up until the winner - the Kia? And for what? aussie-tuned suspension and not needing pluggin in? what a joke - the BYD is miles ahead in every possible metric including how its suspension is tuned - because it's tuned for comfort and a plush ride - we're talking chalk and cheese buddy.
It was an incredibly close call for the win, for sure, and the data shows that people are cross-shopping these vehicles. Did you know a lot of people cross shop the same brand too?
@@carsales not close at all judging by the everyday man and woman. You guys are suppose to be the experts. How much did KIA pay you?
A person who gives a win to a hev over an phev have no clue what he is talking about, this tell you the kind of people who work carsales …😢
Did you say that the Kia runs only on 2km for it's pure EV settings? HUUUUGE deal breaker! What tf... that won't even take me halfway into my commute! The point of a Hybrid is that you should mostly be using the batteries and only use the petrol for long distances, in places where chargers are not easily accesible, or if you are going out of the city. I'll take the BYD thank you!
Kia's tiny battery and electric motor are there only to assist its petrol engine with start/stop and things like that. It was never designed to be a fully functional motor for the car. The same is true for all non-plugin hybrids.
6:25 The interior of Seal is definitely way more luxurious than Kia, All most on par with mid range Merc and Beamers and half the price, definitely a no brainer choice for me if I in the market for one...
@@passby8070 but BYD has no resale value at all.
Sealion is a joke compared to EV5. EV5 is smaller but bigger headroom, legroom, trunk, frunk. 😂
@@yslee14013 year old atto 3s still going for 40ks
Just for the fact that Toyota is giving up its own hybrid design and signs up for BYD’s, it probably proves BYD is better
Sealion is a joke compared to EV5. EV5 is smaller but much bigger headroom, legroom, trunk, frunk.
@@IoniqIonityIonnanot the same segment n price range. Not a fair comparison..
@@albertchun6890 It is a same price and segment.. song plus ev and ev5 in China.
@@IoniqIonityIonna EV5 is a joke price in AU, plus you can only get most of the features on GT model.
Plug in by far. I think people are freaking out about the idea of charging their car overnight, when it's literally sitting idle. But when it saves you chunk of money at the pump it's a game changer.
True, but a lot of Australian's don't have off-street parking. So they must park on the street and often don't get to park near their dwelling. One of the reasons why regular HEVs are selling in much greater numbers than PHEVs.
@@carsales Hmmmm I've been hearing this alot but when you look at our sprawling suburbs it doesn't sound right. In the 2021 Census, only 16% reported their housing type as a unit, the majority of the rest are houses and town houses. Whilst I can't confirm, I'm sure the majority would have off street parking.
@@carsales But of course, if you don't have a safely accessible plug, it may not be the right technology mix for you.
Hilarious ... so the Kia wins cos it has ''aussie tuned' suspension (there's so much jingoism in this from these reviewers) and you don't have to plug it in! So after about 2kms its noisy engine always kicks in costing you dollars 'cos the engine is cold and inefficient on short urban trips. I have the lower spec Dynamic, which is about the same price as this Kia, (but still offers more features). In city driving it does 90kms easy on pure EV, and has returned 5.1l/100 on highway trips, so thats a range of over 1,200kms. I charge the car about every 3rd night , a process that takes about a minute - and a full charge costs me about $3.50 for 90kms. The BYD is a comfortable drive and extremely quiet, as is the engine when it eventually comes on when you leave the city on long trips. BYD are going to do very well.
The obvious but not mentioned is that when BYD become plugless and you don't charge it at all, it is still a full hybrid. So now you know who is better value. Like many other 2nd gen Chinese PHEVs and Mazda and Mitsi, it is the same. Unfortunately Kia still got this dated HEV to the market to compete.
mate. they've harden up the suspension and call it "aussie tuned". Sealion 6 is built for comfort which most families prefer for urban driving. the reviewer will prob give Model Y full marks for car "dynamic" since it's rock hard with awesome cornering performance.
@@markus6664 KIAs will have much better resale value
Sealion is a joke compared to EV5. EV5 is smaller but bigger headroom, legroom, trunk, frunk. 😂
Also a Sealion 6 owner here. Go sign up for EV night saver plan buddy! It only costs me approx. $1.40 per charge every day. That's what I get thru AGL charging scheduled from 12am - 6am.
why not use the Dynamic model it's less money and also like the Kia its front wheel drive so it's direct competitor looks like this is a paid as for Kia by the presenter
Hiya, we tried for the Dynamic but BYD couldn’t supply us one to test and film.
@@carsales Looking at the reactions might seem to suggest that your conclusions are not necessarily shared with the 'public' opinion as suggested.
@@tonyhove981 Yeah probably.
Recent BYD software update included temperature and fan control fine tuning from any screen by using three finger swipe up/down, left/right to eliminate having to go into air con settings to change. Excellent update. However, fan direction is still from air con setting screen.
Seriously, orange vs apple?
I think this company is just trying to sell whatever left of Sportage commitment they agreed to with Kia 😂, just my two cents after watching this review. As someone has said, I think it’s two different cars, I have had my SL6 for the past 2 weeks now and loving it, took the delivery in Hobart, and have driven it from Hobart to Launceston, the EV mode setup to 75% gave me about 80km before the HEV kicked in. And by the time I arrived in Lonnie, the HEV was about 112KM and EV was about 87km. I noticed it charged during down hill and brakes and gave me additional 7-8km.
And the reason I chose this car was of the limited charging stations across Australia if one is to go for long distance, which I’m planning to do.
In China, the world's largest auto market, South Korean automakers have sold most of their production lines as their share of the market has fallen rapidly to 1 percent from a peak of 8 percent, as they have been unable to compete with a host of Chinese automakers led by BYD.
Due to the lack of competitiveness, it is estimated that Korean cars will soon be forced to completely withdraw from the Chinese market, and the same situation will soon happen in other countries.
From in your dream 🦇🐀🍲
@@zimuli3549 PRC vehicle sales have tanked due to their economic implosion post collapse of China Evergrande and Country Garden. With Foxconn, Flexteonics, Sony, Panasonic & many other foreign firms pulling out, just a matter of time PRC becomes a banana republic
@@zimuli3549 CCP is playing dirty by providing subsidies to local manufacturers. That’s why EU and US imposed massive tariffs on PRC imports
Chinese always dream under Samsung and Hyundai... Korea don't care China market but always king.
Sealion is a joke compared to EV5. EV5 is smaller but much bigger headroom, legroom, trunk, frunk.
The worst presentation ever seen. How is it possible to compare 2 different cars, one full hybrid without full equipment and another plug in hybrid with full equipment and say that Kia does not have ventilation in the seats and other things.
If you need to adjust something, use voice control, don’t need to go near the screen for most common adjustments, including windows. And it works.
Agreed,
@@carsales So why wasn't this part of your review. Seems significant that in the BYD you don't need to take your eyes off the road to adjust the air conditioning.
@@stephenhopkins4173press button on steering wheel it activates, and just say open sun shade and it replies and does it. Set temperature too 23, and it does it. Press button system turns off. Simples.
The BYD uses Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO4). Not Lithium Ion (Li-ion). LiFePO4 shits all over Li-ion.
This is really useful information for me. It seems that none of the RUclips presenters pay much attention to the drive-train & battery technology, and the terms Hybrid, Plug-in Hybrid don't adequately indicate how they compare. I have no interest in the Toyota concept of a complex integrated ICE/Electric with a tiny NiMH battery. A Range extender concept such as the Chevrolet/Holden Volt, or the Nissan Electric Transmission needs different terminology to discriminate. The lack of understanding of the chemical difference between "Iron" and "Ion" is very disappointing. I'd buy a range-extender if there was a suitable offering, but it looks like it'll be a straight EV.
BYD ATTO3 Canberra owner disagrees. Warranty was denied until media intervention. Took BYD 8 months to return the vehicle
21:32 Never needs to plugging in is a boon??? Since when less is more???
If you don't have off-street parking or anywhere to charge, it's a big issue. Hence why plug-in hybrids make up a small percentage of overall car sales at present. However, it is growing, along with infrastructure. Some cool innovations like wallbox chargers on suburban streets are being trialled which are good for inner-city types with on-street parking.
@@carsales Ummm - And the BYD is a hybrid so you don't need to plug it in...
He says never needs plugging in as an advantage. The BYD doesn't 'need' plugging in either, you can keep driving it without plugging it in. Plugging in provides an additional advantage to use cheaper electricity to power it.
So the KIA never needs plugging in, but is still less economical than the BYD if you never plug it in either.
Seems the theory is that having the ability to plug in is seen as a disadvantage, even when the vehicle is more economical if even if you can't or don't wish to plug in.
@@onefiniteplanet but Kia has better resale value, so the TCO is much lower
Sealion is a joke compared to EV5. EV5 is smaller but much bigger headroom, legroom, trunk, frunk.
Sealion 6 smashes it out of the park. You can basically drive it for free if you have solar for your daily commute. So you are immune to petrol prices, yet you are also protected from range anxiety. Bit of an apples to oranges comparison. The only negative about BYD is stupidly complex warranty. Whoever came up with that idea needs to do a 3 year Marketing course, because it's a serious drawback, especially when BYD cars are well made and the LFP Blade batteries last basically for ever.
Yeah. 12 months later, the care will be worth less than 25% of its sticker price provided the used car dealership accepts your vehicle
Canberra owner disagrees. His ATTO3 battery died at 15 months but BYD refutes the warranty until media intervention
@@yslee1401 that wouldn’t be the battery. That’s something else.
@@John-p7i5g ruclips.net/video/xcv9Tk-jON8/видео.htmlsi=fYlguxEc13eEvV0v
It is the battery
@@John-p7i5g it was the battery. BYD replaced it and it took them 8 months
That kia looks so dated 😅
You can use sealion just like an ICE car, you can only refuel and never charge it, it's still have more fuel-efficient than Toyota and Kia's HEV system, Its engine functions only as a generator, running at a specific RPM, making it quieter and more efficient.
On a novated lease BYD pays no FBT. KIA pays full FBT. You also never need to plug in the BYD. And the range of the BYD's battery means for most people if you plug it in and drive around the city it is essentially an EV. Also, you can use voice control for most things on the BYD, including air conditioning so you can keep your eyes on the road. Its really simple, works well and yet the reviewer doesn't bother to even mention it.
The review seems to miss the point on pretty much everything - really poor. Much better reviews out there.
Are you telling me Kia warranty covers brake pads, fluids, wiper and all consumables. Wow😮
All I know is that BYD battery warranty is as good as none. ATTO3 Canberra owner can attest to that. The system went belly up travelling at 100km/h. BYD denied warranty claim until media intervened
I think what we are missing here is if the sealion was a Kia we would be getting charged 80-90k
I saw other tests for 0 to 100 for byd, put hev mode and put it in sport mode. Then put on launch control in settings.
Let me get this straight, the BYD using HEV mode is still somehow more fuel efficient than Kia?
And has more horsepower with a smaller motor. If the kia is the best non Chinese competitor than BYD is way a head of the game
@@azzamatic4190 Korean EVs are totally dependent on marketing hypes.
@@hermesliteratus882 I really do like the interior and exterior styling of modern Kia's but they really do feel cheap in quality
@@azzamatic4190 Korean made battery is another issue...
@@GForce162 GM had issues with LG chem batteries
“Mum, put on some Black Eyed Peas”…man how old are your kids…30!
I took the Sealion for a test drive today and was absolutely blown away. After that, I tried the Tesla Model Y, but honestly, it felt a bit underwhelming. At 6'1" and a larger guy, I found the Sealion to be much more comfortable, especially with good headroom in the back-unlike the Tesla Model Y, where my head was hitting the roof. I was able to adjust my driving seat all the way back, leaving plenty of room for someone to sit behind me. I’m really impressed!
I also tested the Camry, which was nice, but it just didn’t compare to the Sealion. Plus, I’m not too fussy about not having a spare tyre; I hardly drive, mainly in urban areas, and I always change my tyres when they’re nearing their expiration. I’ve never had any issues in the last 20 years. I'm definitely tempted!
You will be blown further away after 12 months when the PRC car is worth less than 25% of new value
@@yslee1401 At least they are actively shaking up the market by holding non-PRC companies accountable for improving their standards, particularly in interior quality and pricing. With at least five more PCR companies set to enter the market soon, it’s the same rhetoric surrounding Japanese cars in the 60s and 70s.
@@duccik5509 all PRC vehicle buyer remorse sets in within 7 days. Being seen in a PRC vehicle is a reputation kamikaze and the feeling of being looked down sets in really quickly. You would have lost 75% of the car value after signing on the dotted line. Look at the bright side, you will never make this mistake again
@@duccik5509 I am just reminding the public what BYD behavior has been for the Canberra ATTO3 owner. BYD refused warranty claim on a failed battery until the media intervened. They then took another 8 months to return the car.
@@yslee1401 Agree. Hopefully, they'll sort things out soon; otherwise, consumers won't be forgiving. Relying on a third-party distributor isn’t the most effective strategy, after all. I have decided to wait another year to see how the market evolves, especially EV and PHEV sectors. I’d prefer a PHEV from an established company, but they either tend to be unexciting or just out of budget.
BYD Sealion 6 is much better
@@xiasage still no resale value
@@xiasage chinaman car is always temu car
Sealion is a joke compared to EV5. EV5 is smaller but bigger headroom, legroom, trunk, frunk. 😂
Let sales figure say who’s the winner 😂
V2H and V2G is the game changer!
Are you sure about the boot size of the Sealion 6? 574L? The brochure says 425L.
bro good review 90% things are better in BYD but the winner is KIA.
@@luappaul3062 Not me, the real winner is the BYD
And KIA has way better resale value than BYD
@@yslee1401 And I will buy a fully loaded BYD Sealion 6 anyway
@@yslee1401 100 % correct , when i buy mobile, grocery, tv, laptop i do i quick google search which product got resale value. i am with you bro.
@@RichardJoashTan I saw a toy version of the Sealion on Temu as well
Thanks for a great review . Was the 5.7 l/100 km in the BYD achieved with the battery fully charged from the mains before testing began, or is this the figure that could be expected if an owner ignored the plug in functionality ?
There is no Comparison. BYD is pure winner. Please compare apple to apple 😅
The parts (screen wipers, brake pads and filter) covered by 6 months warranty of Sea lion 6 are for the commercial usage which travels over 30,000 per year, such as taxi or Uber. For normal usage, who ever worries about these parts can break in 6 months. Or in other words, these parts will last a many times longer than 6 months for normal driving.
Tell that to ATTO3 Canberra owner. Battery died at 15 months
What on earth is a Aussie tuned suspension? Do we have different physics in Australia? Are our roads different? I’ve travelled to lots of places and I’m struggling to think of any significant differences other than the corrugations of dirt track country roads. Cities though are pretty much the same world wide.
6 month warranty on what is mainly consumable items. Atleast they state it - Kia will just fob you off saying they are consumable items when you go to claim. If thats the worst thing to complain about....
The Sealion 6 is getting Aussie Tuned suspension soon. BYD responded to feedback. Will be interested to see the difference.
what would be the cost to replace or repair the BYD's screen after the 3 years warranty, it won't be in a hundreds I guess.
For me that drive 45 min to work the softer suspension is very nice, our smaller car is more fun , but the car we use for travel should be comfy like th BYD
I have ordered BYD. It's miles ahead of anything Kia and hyundai make.
Why Australia dont have PHEV toyota Rav4(Rav4 prime) or PHEV Kia sportage etc ?please tell me somebody🙏
Seems like PHEV market is behind here.
Not so serious about electric life maybe?
This in not even a comparison. You didn’t really touch on fuel consumption. If you travel less than 70 km most days the BYD would cost much less to run or even for free with the right energy plan or solar panels at home. Very few buyers are interested in driving dynamics for a car that is basically a shopping trolley
😂😂 he was the one who said the byd is good in 98% of the driving that you gonna need, but the Kia win ???
Sealion is a joke compared to EV5. EV5 is smaller but much bigger headroom, legroom, trunk, frunk.
BYD has super low resale value
@@yslee1401 Not many for sale 2nd hand and they are same/dearer than new.
@@petervincent7720 used car dealerships don’t accept PRC vehicles as insurance companies have a specific clause nullifying PRC BEV fires
Imagine, 60 Liter Gasoline Tank
60 / 5.7 L = 10.53
10.53 * 100 = 1,053 KM
still its around 17-18kmpl which is still impressive
the reason why it can get longer range is because you have a bigger gasoline tank, not because of the EV scheme
Byd's rival is not Sportage but Sorento. Both of sea lion(seal-u dmi) is d segment vehicles. Sportage is c segment and its rival is atto 3.
Another so called car expert that doesn't know the short cuts (finger drag across the screen) to adjust the A/C without having to go into a menu.
Cudos for mentioning the VTL function on the BYD. That's a huge benefit.
Totally agree that the BYD would really benefit from locally tuned suspension. It is quite soft but if you're a city driver, it's going to be comfortable.
The whole idea of buying a PHEV is to charge it everyday and use the electric only range most of the time but you then can easily do long trips if you need too. You can fast charge it on long trips as well which is a bonus. My driving would mean that 90% of my trips would be on electric only which would be charged from solar panels for free or on the 8c per kw/h on the overnight electric car rate. The BYD would save me over $6,000 a year.
The extra equipment in the BYD also makes it a compelling offer. Electric tailgate, twin wireless phone chargers, lots of extra USB ports, 360 degree camera, heated and ventilated front seat, all lights are LED and head up display.
credibility of carsales are going down from this. How did the virdict conclude the KIA won? Did you watch their own review?
Seen another RUclipsr get 5.1 sec to 100
not mention voice command in Sealion 6,seriously?
What's the point of testing a plugin hybrid with a non plug in hybrid? It's just completely stupid.
WTF with every review about BYD cars and the HVAC. Why can't reviewers use the 3 finger swipe to change Temp or fan speed. This reviewer has done little research.
I would love to see a big comparison test with the Honda crv and Hyundai Tucson and kia Sportage and Subaru Forester and Toyota RAV4 and byd Sealion 6 and Mazda cx5 and Mitsubishi Outlander and haval h6 and chery tiggo7 and mahindra xuv700 and Mitsubishi Outlander and nissan Xtrail and ford escape and Honda ZRV and Volkswagen Tiguan and Peugeot 3008 and Renault Koleos and Skoda Karoq and mg hs and ssangyong torres when it arrives in Australia
I wouldn't watch this if I knew he'll say Kia wins. Nonsense. 9 out of 10 wil choose BYD in my opinion
Hybrid is like riding a bike with training wheels.
选择电动车的人，压根就不会使用千斤顶，更别提自己换轮胎了。即使有备胎，她/他们也会选择打电话叫拖车。
电动车车主相对于燃油车车主，对于车辆本身的了解更少，也就是更懒。
Where is Nadine?
The obvious but not mentioned is that when BYD become plugless and you don't charge it at all, it is still a full hybrid. So now you know who is better value. Like many other 2nd gen Chinese PHEVs and Mazda and Mitsi, it is the same. Unfortunately Kia still got this dated HEV to the market to compete.
Sealion is a joke compared to EV5. EV5 is smaller but much bigger headroom, legroom, trunk, frunk.
cannot compare,
Sealion is an EV using petrol to charge the battery. Kia is not EV and not using petrol to charge the battery.
So BYD with dual motors AWD, much bigger battery and 350kg heavier due to PHEV still beats FWD KIA HEV in fuel efficiency even in HEV mode just shows how far behind KIA and other legacy manufacturers.
What a nonsense Apple and Orange. BYD is far behind KIA PHEV.
Yeah BehindYD is far behind KIA, so they didn't bring Sportage PHEV.
Why didn’t they compare the GT version with all the bells and whistles instead of the plain Jane cheap model Sportage. At least compare apples with apples and not apples and onions.
Clearly you were paid handsomely by Kia. What an embarrassing comparison. The BYD is years ahead in every aspect and yet you nudge Kia because of its “tuning”. A 10 year old could have done a better comparison.
The Kia wins yet again? So today I ordered the Seal U. ;)
BYD is SO much better
Is this reaaaaaly a comparison video ?
The Kia belongs to yesteryear technology because it is still a ICE car. While BYD is a NEV. whoever can not see the distinction between these two is unqualified to make such review.
Sealion is a joke compared to EV5. EV5 is smaller but much bigger headroom, legroom, trunk, frunk.
Quite possibly the worst haircut I have ever seen 💇♂️
0-100km/h took 6.9 sec for BYD, are you serious in tetsting?
Sealion is a joke compared to EV5. EV5 is smaller but much bigger headroom, legroom, trunk, frunk.
@@IoniqIonityIonnaEV5 is BEV not PHEV. Not everyone wants a full BEV. Apple and Orange comparison.
@@thearlongpark I'm talking Song Plus BEV.
@@IoniqIonityIonna This video is about PHEV Sealion. The BEV version of this vehicle uses the same chassis as this one hence it has less room because it has never been designed as BEV only platform and is not even sold outside China.
@@thearlongpark That can be arguably excuse. Ev3 is egmp but similar with Niro but has large room. Bmw i series, modified ice but has large room. Polestar, ev platform but small room. Ev5 is also not even sold outside China.
Nah...i prefer BYD.
Common man byd is clearly winner 😂😂😂😂is this a joke or what???
@@nagendrashah3564 Are you Chinese? 😂😂😂😂
Sealion is a joke compared to EV5. EV5 is smaller but much bigger headroom, legroom, trunk, frunk.
PRC cars depreciates more than 75% in 12 months
😜😜😜
Not a fan 🪭 of touch screens to change the temperature. It's a no go for me 🙅
@@buster_1972 Not me, I will buy a fully loaded Sealion 6
@@RichardJoashTan congratulations, I'll be sticking to my 20 year old Pajero.
Dishonest review.
Why would you buy a Chinese vehicle? So unappealing.
Why would you buy a OnePlus phone, or an Asus pc, quality/price unbeatable in the market.
These Chinese vehicles are also known as Temu Teslas
When will people understand that quality is directly proportional to price. The reason you buy low quality products is because you are poor. If it weren't for TEMU, you'd have no choice but to rob and get the goods.
Tesla's are temu Tesla's 😂😂
@@ChitraDurga-is7xm a 4 month old little pink troll account
Don’t tell Mercedes A class buyers. And a whole pile of other mainstream Euro brands. You ain’t informed much.
An opinion of poor people that never had a car 😂. I bet you're struggling with a cost of living 😂😂😂.
The Kia everyday. No question
But for me, BYD ALL YEAR LONG. NO QUESTION AND EXCLAMATION POINT.
@@RichardJoashTan once a loser always. Deal with it.
@@bazinga615 Stop crying 😂😂. BYD everyday
@@ChitraDurga-is7xm cope harder.
Nice one 😂. Kia everyday 😉
Sealion is a joke compared to EV5. EV5 is smaller but bigger headroom, legroom, trunk, frunk. 😂
EV5 is BEV not PHEV. Not everyone wants a BEV. Apple and Orange comparison.
@@thearlongpark I'm talking of Song Plus BEV.
@@IoniqIonityIonna Which is the BEV version of this car using the same chassis hence why it has smaller room inside because it never been designed as BEV only platform.
@@thearlongpark That can be arguably excuse. Ev3 is egmp but similar with Niro but has large room. Bmw i series, modified ice but has large room. Polestar, ev platform but small room.
@@IoniqIonityIonna it is not an excuse it's a reality that any PHEV platform has a smaller interior due to having to house engine and transmission and also BYD has other SUV BEV platforms to compete in this segment anyway i.e. Sealion 7 and Song L. BMW i series has smaller interior space compared to BYD Seal and Tesla Model 3. Polestar 2 is not a BEV platform hence why it has a small interior.
Complete rubbish review with the reviewer having zero knowledge of the difference between parallel hybrid vs series hybrid. Just clueless.
Kia is still a fuel car, outdated technology. If you really understand hybrid technology, you will know that BYD is on another level. In addition, for me who works in the city, Hiace can save me a lot of fuel costs. Pure electricity is enough unless I go camping.
BYD & fuel car lolol ahahahahahahah
It is not a fuel car, it is an EV with a generator, and all journalists of automotive say it on another level.
@@saahan-nn1fe but PRC vehicles have no resale value at all
Chinese temu dream 😂 Kia always decades ahead dated Bye.
Sealion is a joke compared to EV5. EV5 is smaller but much bigger headroom, legroom, trunk, frunk.