This review weirdly convinced me to buy the DERE M11 just now in December 2022. I have an Alienware R13 and HATE Windows 11 more than I hated Vista, so I see the fact that they won't force me to iron out bugs with updates twice a week as a Pro. I'm happy that they nerfed the display for the sake of better CPU/mobo/ram performance. That gaming screencap looked way better than I expected a $300 laptop to do. I love the oldschool physical card reader, usb 2.0 jack and gigabit jack, because we all have those old cables that collect dust but that we can't bear to throw away because they were top-flight in their heyday, and last but not least, look at that bezel minimalism and trackpad size! Look at that bright red that you can't miss even if your girlfriend kicks the laptop under the bed! This is a no-headache, no-expectation-of-being-upgraded-laptop that performs above its pricetag and that you never have to worry about because in 2023 it sells for about $280. I spent more on my R13's keyboard alone. One thing I want to note is that @TechTablets made a small mistake imho, by updating the drivers and junk. When you're buying a cheapo laptop, MAKE SURE TO UPDATE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Driver updates are designed to play nicest with the newest range of applications and protocols. They let you do more. But they do NOT help you do the old ordinary stuff better with older equipment, most of the time. Just use the thing how it comes out of the box and decline any and all update prompts. Troubleshoot only when necessary. Linus advises this, too. Unless you're a god amongst men, you're more likely to make things worse for yourself by fiddling with drivers/OC/bios/regedit/bootdrive stuff. I'm interested to do my own tests and see if the battery life is actually 3ish hours as he reports because low screen brightness usually means better battery life...
I've seen this a lot when looking for n5000 series laptops. It was too good to be true, I knew they would crap out on the build quality, hopefully a new generation of celeron laptops with excellent quality pops up. Still think the Gemibook is miles ahead compared to this!
Well we have Chuwi's new Larkbook X with Celeron N5100 Jasper Lake so hopefully it has a good screen and they have been improving the build quality as for late.
While there are many good and underrated products that come from China recently, it seems we also have to keep in mind that there are also this kind of products. Good thing keyboards stuff aren’t that bad but it’s also probably due to the lack of complex components like laptops.
This DERE brand is catching my attention recently. Can u please make a video of the DERE T30 PRO tablet pc🙏? I would love to see how good is that tab. Please please 🙏🙏🙏
In fact, I know many overseas friends who use DERE products, and I have not found any dissatisfaction with them.It's more like you took money from Chuwi and helped it spread the word
Oh I certainly had my moments with this one. It was a struggle to complete the review and wanted to throw my towel in. But at least it's done to warm others of just how terrible it is!
@@Techtablets You were professional and typically honest. I'm glad you haven't totally abandoned the budget tech, but perhaps the fuss about Infinix Note 10 Pro and the Cubot 7 inch phones are just hype? I thought if you're not reviewing them then they can't be worth my time. Anyway, keep up the great work.
Ah yeah some of those budget phones I cannot stand they look good but once you start using them they normally have terrible cameras and minor OS bugs etc. Just not worth my effort.
I'm also concerned by the apparent lack of HW acceleration for video rendering... Aside for that, how is the BIOS layout, is it fully unlocked? I'm asking because HWInfo showed a max power consumption of just over 10 W, but if the chip is designed to run at a higher power envelope maybe removing the cTDP levels via BIOS can at least give the poor thing a fighting chance. Great content as always and thanks for your dedication!
Thank you. I think it's better to get a mini PC for this kind of money and some cheap monitor if you don't need the mobility. Yeah, not very good laptop, but thanks for the review. Sorry for asking, bur are you gonna review the Realme GT Neo 2?
DERE has been quite existing for some time now, but looks like they still don't know what to actually sacrifice to reach affordability without compromising important stuffs. Still waiting for other Jasper Lake from more well known brands such as Chuwi, Teclast and Maibenben. I still don't like Bmax so I count it out, despite having the form factor I really want.
It struggles playing some 4K video, and isn't very good for gaming, So you decide it's only good for documents and web browsing? Willing to bet it's good for twitch streaming.
Hello, Dere v14s N5095 vs Chuwi gemibook pro's N5100 which one is better overalls, I know 6w vs 15W, 1.1 vs 2.0 base and N5095 has pro and cons, which one do u prefer since u had hands on both of them. Thank u
Great review ! I have some questions for those who have this laptop : - Does the keyboard fail like Teclast F15 ? - Does it heat ? It's allaliminium body ? Back case and front case ? I'm looking to buy this Dere M11 and HP 250 G8... which one you guys recommend ?
Hey @techtablets av been looking for a laptop like the chuwi core book pro x one I can use to do cad stuff on autocad and such like. Is the core book up to standard for the same?
Chris, are you sure you weren't inadvertently rendering those videos on CPU whilst using the capture card? The Intel GPU is more than capable of HW decoding those videos so seems highly likely that they were pummelling CPU instead.
I thought that and when I ran the videos on just the laptop and it's screen (not HMDI out) same issue, dropping frames at the start. Not sure what was up and also reinstalled the Intel GFX driver. Native HEVC and VP9 support etc. But it wasn't good.
Which is better, this or Alldocube GT Book? BTW, can't your review of that Alldocube GT anymore. I love your reviews, very very informative, keep it up!
Intel should not be selling this junk, it should be at least 8 cores for this price. a snapdragon 855 or 860 is 25% faster at half TDP and can be found for the price of a Poco X3 pro
Companies should think about ecology and don't produce an e-waste. All their thoughts about enviroment care ends up with thieving charger in your phone set
don't know why this results is so bad, but my celeron n5100 with 4GB 2933Mhz(in single chanel) absolutely normal playing this video in 4K and also support 8K, support bad but he run it I use Acer Extensa And in this notebooks i dont't see trottling on all 8K time. May you forgot install AV1 driver? Or instructions which Intel write on website really work?
they make them look nicer than what they are, backlit keyboard and all lol. they must have saved so much in parts by just throwing in random old garbage like that webcam and screen...
I was curious about this brand but I can't trust any of these Chinese brands since mi Chuwi tablet died after three months of use. I would stay with more reliable brands, tired of trying luck with this sort of products. :( (Not native speaker so I'm sorry for any broken English)
Ерыеы VERY strange results which only can be explained by video recording - it is just dont have enoght codec to record it and do work at same time. Screen is awfull - never buy laptop with not IPS screen
It should be sold for 350 with 8GB ram and no accessories. Windows is the problem here, background tasks are killing what little performance this chip has.
@@Techtablets ok boomer . I have it since 4 month's and I play every new games with it. For buying a western laptob with this ability I had to pay at least 2000 dollars
@@peymanmohamaditole9566 so games are compatible for this laptop? Buying a western based top brand is very expensive so I'm trying to find a cheap and compatible one
This review weirdly convinced me to buy the DERE M11 just now in December 2022. I have an Alienware R13 and HATE Windows 11 more than I hated Vista, so I see the fact that they won't force me to iron out bugs with updates twice a week as a Pro. I'm happy that they nerfed the display for the sake of better CPU/mobo/ram performance. That gaming screencap looked way better than I expected a $300 laptop to do. I love the oldschool physical card reader, usb 2.0 jack and gigabit jack, because we all have those old cables that collect dust but that we can't bear to throw away because they were top-flight in their heyday, and last but not least, look at that bezel minimalism and trackpad size! Look at that bright red that you can't miss even if your girlfriend kicks the laptop under the bed! This is a no-headache, no-expectation-of-being-upgraded-laptop that performs above its pricetag and that you never have to worry about because in 2023 it sells for about $280. I spent more on my R13's keyboard alone.
One thing I want to note is that @TechTablets made a small mistake imho, by updating the drivers and junk. When you're buying a cheapo laptop, MAKE SURE TO UPDATE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Driver updates are designed to play nicest with the newest range of applications and protocols. They let you do more. But they do NOT help you do the old ordinary stuff better with older equipment, most of the time. Just use the thing how it comes out of the box and decline any and all update prompts. Troubleshoot only when necessary. Linus advises this, too. Unless you're a god amongst men, you're more likely to make things worse for yourself by fiddling with drivers/OC/bios/regedit/bootdrive stuff.
I'm interested to do my own tests and see if the battery life is actually 3ish hours as he reports because low screen brightness usually means better battery life...
Your recent reviews are better than the products 🤭😂
I've seen this a lot when looking for n5000 series laptops. It was too good to be true, I knew they would crap out on the build quality, hopefully a new generation of celeron laptops with excellent quality pops up. Still think the Gemibook is miles ahead compared to this!
Well we have Chuwi's new Larkbook X with Celeron N5100 Jasper Lake so hopefully it has a good screen and they have been improving the build quality as for late.
8:12 I'm running Windows 11 on a laptop from 2007, so if you bypass the hardware check, then you can install Windows 11 on this one too.
While there are many good and underrated products that come from China recently, it seems we also have to keep in mind that there are also this kind of products. Good thing keyboards stuff aren’t that bad but it’s also probably due to the lack of complex components like laptops.
Thanks for your sacrifice 😅
No problem haha this one was a hard one to review. Sadly now and then I get such lemons!
This DERE brand is catching my attention recently. Can u please make a video of the DERE T30 PRO tablet pc🙏? I would love to see how good is that tab. Please please 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks for the review!
In fact, I know many overseas friends who use DERE products, and I have not found any dissatisfaction with them.It's more like you took money from Chuwi and helped it spread the word
Sounds like you work for DERE just watch my video and you’ll see that stuff I showed can’t be made up.
Wow. An Intel celeron. What year is this?
Yeah well they still make them and the new 10nm chip with minor changes over Gemini Lakes 14nm
This Celeron has more core than my i7 laptop luckily my i7 has hyper thread
I also have a question. Does the processor stick to the socket or not? Can it be upgraded?Thanks🙋
Disaster of a machine. You're very patient, Chris.
Oh I certainly had my moments with this one. It was a struggle to complete the review and wanted to throw my towel in. But at least it's done to warm others of just how terrible it is!
@@Techtablets You were professional and typically honest. I'm glad you haven't totally abandoned the budget tech, but perhaps the fuss about Infinix Note 10 Pro and the Cubot 7 inch phones are just hype? I thought if you're not reviewing them then they can't be worth my time. Anyway, keep up the great work.
Ah yeah some of those budget phones I cannot stand they look good but once you start using them they normally have terrible cameras and minor OS bugs etc. Just not worth my effort.
@@Techtablets Understood. I suspect some of those positive reviews are 'sponsored'... ah well.
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i used to have gemini lake and the hevc video performance wasnt as disappointing
I know something is up with it as the N5095 mini PC I review was much better smooth. Yet whatever I do this mini PC the video lags and drops frames.
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156 MB not GB
I'm also concerned by the apparent lack of HW acceleration for video rendering... Aside for that, how is the BIOS layout, is it fully unlocked? I'm asking because HWInfo showed a max power consumption of just over 10 W, but if the chip is designed to run at a higher power envelope maybe removing the cTDP levels via BIOS can at least give the poor thing a fighting chance. Great content as always and thanks for your dedication!
It's unlocked the bios. But it was very odd that native HEVC decoding wasn't doing the job.
You se this smae chipset in a mini PC now performance was as expected and video playback good ruclips.net/video/DAQ2ZuqUqgk/видео.html
166 nits TN panel. Enough said!
I don`t think there`s anything wrong for a plastic keyboard, cuz if you want a good bonce,the plastic still the ideal material.
I totally agree with what you said
Thank you. I think it's better to get a mini PC for this kind of money and some cheap monitor if you don't need the mobility. Yeah, not very good laptop, but thanks for the review. Sorry for asking, bur are you gonna review the Realme GT Neo 2?
Realme GT Neo 2 I don't think so now
Thank you sir, for the info♥️👍🏻
I have bought it China on line but it is not written in cover the brand type Ichosen before Oder that is HP.
Just when I thought Chinese companies are becoming like Japanese quality focused at low prices but no, this pops up.
DERE has been quite existing for some time now, but looks like they still don't know what to actually sacrifice to reach affordability without compromising important stuffs. Still waiting for other Jasper Lake from more well known brands such as Chuwi, Teclast and Maibenben. I still don't like Bmax so I count it out, despite having the form factor I really want.
Impossible for teclast, they still stuck at N4120 series...
@@altuser2051 yeah, crazy to see they sell 3 different models of F7 Plus with almost identical specs...
@@leledumbo 🤣🤣🤣, perhaps they took too much stock (chipset)
@@leledumbo next round will be f7 plus 4, and f15 plus 3
Hi. Which of these three laptops would be a better choice. Dere M12, Kuu flexone and the Bmax y13?
It struggles playing some 4K video, and isn't very good for gaming, So you decide it's only good for documents and web browsing? Willing to bet it's good for twitch streaming.
Can review the T-Bao X10 laptop with AMD 3150U chip? Thank you.
Not sure if I would buy that one to review. Very weak chipset the 3150U, only a dual core.
basic video editing? (cut, transition and music layout?) can this handle it?
1080p maybe if super basic but definitely not 4K
@@Techtablets thanks..
Hello, Dere v14s N5095 vs Chuwi gemibook pro's N5100 which one is better overalls, I know 6w vs 15W, 1.1 vs 2.0 base and N5095 has pro and cons, which one do u prefer since u had hands on both of them. Thank u
Great review ! I have some questions for those who have this laptop :
- Does the keyboard fail like Teclast F15 ?
- Does it heat ? It's allaliminium body ? Back case and front case ?
I'm looking to buy this Dere M11 and HP 250 G8... which one you guys recommend ?
Hey @techtablets av been looking for a laptop like the chuwi core book pro x one I can use to do cad stuff on autocad and such like. Is the core book up to standard for the same?
Well it's 8259U is the better of the chipsets for the price tag. As long as it's not too heavy if so you would need a dedicated GPU.
I can add Desktop Video Card with Express Card Reader Dock?
i have so good deals on ebay theres a symbol where ebay says that if i dont get the product they will refund is it safe?
Think I will skip on this purchase. Thank you for the review (or warning). "Build quality...mmm...yes" Brilliant lol.
Wise move!
Can you review Machenike laptop?
Hello Sir. Can you review Beelink U59, a mini pc with the same CPU?
Yes I can. Video coming today!
Here you go: ruclips.net/video/DAQ2ZuqUqgk/видео.html
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Chris, are you sure you weren't inadvertently rendering those videos on CPU whilst using the capture card? The Intel GPU is more than capable of HW decoding those videos so seems highly likely that they were pummelling CPU instead.
I thought that and when I ran the videos on just the laptop and it's screen (not HMDI out) same issue, dropping frames at the start. Not sure what was up and also reinstalled the Intel GFX driver. Native HEVC and VP9 support etc. But it wasn't good.
Is there anything decent in this price range Chris? -Thanks great review
Well some of the Chuwi ones have been much better with good IPS screens but N4100 chipsets or the 8259U Corebook X Pro now that is still a good CPU.
laptops with amd 3150u is better
Which is better, this or Alldocube GT Book? BTW, can't your review of that Alldocube GT anymore. I love your reviews, very very informative, keep it up!
laptops with amd 3150u is better, like tbao x10
Do you have the part number for the CPU heatpipe and fan?
Sorry I don’t
Two out of all thode extra things i would use.
What amazing build quality.. if you could even call it that...
Is it good for AutoCAD ?
Not at all too underpowered
Seems like hardware acceleration of video playback isn't working.
Exactly it seemed all via software but my Intel drivers where up to date so couldn't explain as to why it performed so bad here.
Hi guys i‘m not a gamer I need a laptop for work (home office). Would that one be fine for me or can you recommend me one please?
Just wondering if you have tested the Tripltek 8" phablet yet. I am keen to use it as a navigation tablet on my sailboat. Thanks
No I haven't sorry
@@Techtablets haven't yet??😜
there is good budget laptops i3 and ryzen 3 under $400 but beware of TN screens good brands like acer and lenovo
That's the issue normally you get a rubbish TN screen.
I honestly feel the other way. It's a $400 laptop you guys...
I've seen better for the price.
How about 13gb ram 512gb SDD inter celeron N5095 Can handle autocad or editing? I hope you’ll get to see this comment.❤
It's better to buy nothing than buy Celeron based laptop. It's working so slow it even can not launch windows without being frozen
Intel should not be selling this junk, it should be at least 8 cores for this price. a snapdragon 855 or 860 is 25% faster at half TDP and can be found for the price of a Poco X3 pro
"Do not powerful pounding" - 5:30
Good spotting, powerful pouding!
alldocube gt book 14 compare it to dere m1
Companies should think about ecology and don't produce an e-waste. All their thoughts about enviroment care ends up with thieving charger in your phone set
This laptop yes was a waste of resources
don't know why this results is so bad, but my celeron n5100 with 4GB 2933Mhz(in single chanel) absolutely normal playing this video in 4K and also support 8K, support bad but he run it
I use Acer Extensa
And in this notebooks i dont't see trottling on all 8K time. May you forgot install AV1 driver? Or instructions which Intel write on website really work?
I can' explain it either bit it ran bad, is yours the same model?
10:16 lol this thing scores almost 2 times higher than my old i5-5200u while consuming less power
No secure boot is a big letdown.
looks like that laptop was straight from the Wish website! 😂
Pretty much!
the price now is 839.99
they make them look nicer than what they are, backlit keyboard and all lol. they must have saved so much in parts by just throwing in random old garbage like that webcam and screen...
Clearly the would have a random garbage TN screen no other brands would use and then rubbish webcam.
Wow I didn't even know that CPU existes haha
Well, we'll have to wait until a better machine uses it
Beast ❤️
tbao x10 with amd 3150u (vega 3) is better
Yes it would be better
$100 maybe i'll buy that
Is good for games
Can you also make a review on the dere m12.TYVM
They ask too much for a CPU that isn't even mainstream level hardware.
When i get a laptop i always get a external keyboard and mouse.
Same I often use it plugged it a monitor.
I was curious about this brand but I can't trust any of these Chinese brands since mi Chuwi tablet died after three months of use. I would stay with more reliable brands, tired of trying luck with this sort of products. :(
(Not native speaker so I'm sorry for any broken English)
You will never be exused
Ерыеы VERY strange results which only can be explained by video recording - it is just dont have enoght codec to record it and do work at same time. Screen is awfull - never buy laptop with not IPS screen
It's NOT cheap, it's an average laptop.And the price is too much for these specs!!!
No well $100 more and you have a decent older used Core i5 laptop or a bit more and a modern Core i3 or lower end AMD. Well over priced this one!
It should be sold for 350 with 8GB ram and no accessories. Windows is the problem here, background tasks are killing what little performance this chip has.
You get what you paid for.
Certainly here you do!
Oh Dere...
Jester Lake, more like Potato Lake
Jester Lake haha. Well this one is the worst seen as the Beelink Mini PC I@m reviewing now with N5095 does so much better with video playback!
Wow just buy a used laptop even 2 generations would be more powerful than this and Better quality
Exactly and 8259U laptop would be a good pick
No secure boot? No thanks
Great design but garbage screen
ewaste territory
e-waste
Kinda sus.
Is this a good laptop for Fortnite
It’s not good for anything especially gaming
@@Techtablets ok boomer . I have it since 4 month's and I play every new games with it. For buying a western laptob with this ability I had to pay at least 2000 dollars
@@peymanmohamaditole9566 so games are compatible for this laptop? Buying a western based top brand is very expensive so I'm trying to find a cheap and compatible one