People dont get how intensely dangerous it is for the crews themselves to do direct fire, usually in range of your own ordinance. Though this is from experience on M-777 . 2-11 FAR 2 SBCT now IBCT.
Newer model dosent recoil nearly as far. These are the old Variable Recoil models from the look of it. Definitely A2 models. Also never saw a reason to have 2 guys in trails and a third gunning, happy they kinda changed that to just one in trails.
Welllll..... Speed vs Safety. They were decently fast but that AG putting in the Jack Strut made an extremely unsafe move having his whole body under the trails. Seen that fall on someones leg and I would rather take a few extra seconds to ensure we keep a guy in the fight especially if its just for training.
yeah... I was at Ft Richardson and Ft Greely Alaska in the 80's with the M102. frozen ground you couldn't dig proper spade holes and ice gets in the wheel brake sprocket.... saw some wild and hairy stuff... especially direct fire
if there were British army soldiers next to them they would just call this l118 because this Howitzer was originally made in the United Kingdom then exported to the United States
There are no AP rounds for artillery in US inventory. There was a 105mm HEAT round available in the past (M662) but I don't personally know whether that's even been produced, let alone issued, in recent decades. In contrast, larger 155mm artillery would have much better effect by simply using HE and either aiming for weak points or (if possible) airbursting rounds directly over the engine decks of MBTs. Shells of that size have enough explosive mass to threaten any tank that currently exists.
@@meadervanwyk4722 FACT. WWII five inch crews were drilled and drilled until they achieved "inhuman perfection"... "Sea of Thunder" Evan Thomas. naval gunnery is different in every way from land artillery. five inch class naval weapons these days are fully automatic.
@BjarneLinetsky I do apologize I was referring to a 5.5 inch field gun the best we could achieve was eight rounds per minute . Normal rapid fire was classed at four rounds per minute. We achieve this during a operation in Angola in the eighties
@@meadervanwyk4722 At that time, i was knocking around Westpac on a frigate (FF) we were the test bed for the new CIWS vulcan phalanx, those cute little R2D2 things that you see on most naval vessels. First weapon to use DU rounds.
There was one time we were observing some enemy mortar fire on our FOB in Iraq so I hit the ground behind a pile of gravel that was to be used for road surfaces in the motorpool. A few rounds impacted about 150 meters from where I was. As I lie there in the gravel, I remember thinking to myself, "Hey, I finally blend in some of the terrain here."
Not really. This m119 has a 4 feet of recoil which makes it a little slower. A3’s now have 2 feet so it’s faster to open the breach. Opening an closing the breach is easy and wouldn’t make a difference in time if it were auto eject
This is a M119 105mm howitzer. Unless it's an old T-62, you won't do much to a modern tank... With a direct hit from a M777 155mm howitzer however, you could potentially knock out the crew of a modern MBT and maybe even rupture its armor!
Cool piece of History All in all super out of date, dangerous and ineffective, all in a plethora of ways Beautiful Humanistic Art Just 7 Men Freedoming hard or hardly Freedoming They know their duty and how many Lives depend on them to Continue or Cease by their command Atleast I hope But the 105s are so far past their prime I just can’t see anyway to justify keeping them, atleast as they are, relative to their Good performance Because they just aren’t enough The Hawkeye program or simply going all in on M777s, in several ways, seem to be drastically better in most regards Might be a little scary expensive at first, vaguely expensive by US standards, but drastically cheaper in the long term anyways so that’s not much of a complaint These are just holdovers Good enough for future Medium to Lesser Wars, think Proxy Wars and liquidated stock, but not reaching for anything Even if upgraded; probably not worth keeping in the US Military Ukraine probably enjoy’s them though, numerous and Capable with a big stockpile of old ammo But they’re only Good there because the Medium of War is far lower than it could be If pushed to perform; they simply couldn’t And I guarantee in Ukraine, as has been documented with several older artillery models; they’re not enough
Come on USA.... its about time to innovate these 105s and build with self eject. Too many bodies, too much personnel tied up in one gun. WW2 German 88s offered auto ejection.
The Light Gun, both the L118 and L119 (M119) are designed as a very light no-nonsense heli portable gun, they are kept as simple as possible and are very easy to maintain in the field and any unnecessary frills like 'auto-ejection' (which I haven't seen on modern any gun/howitzer) are not incorporated. The gun crew is usually six and the crew member who operates the breech and unloads the spent cartridge also rams the round, so if you got rid of him, you would have to build in an auto-rammer, more weight and another failure point. One other point, these guns have the ability to fire High Angle - in this mode the gun barrel points almost straight up - an auto-ejection system could cause some problems and probably damage equipment and possibly damage the crew. "Too many bodies, too much personnel tied up in one gun". Often in training, ammunition expenditure is limited and it does seem like a full crew of six is surplus to requirements, however when you start upping the rate of fire, ammunition handling becomes a problem. Ammunition has to be securely packed to withstand transportation over dubious roads, so when the ammo truck dumps 30 rounds of ammo on your gun position (which wont last long given the standard 'treatment'' of a target is 5 rounds Fire for Effect) that's a lot of unpacking of sturdy crates to do. The shells come in a steel box, two to a box (box weighs about 70lbs), the boxes are built to take some rough treatment so have to be kicked open, then the shells are in cardboard tubes that have to be eased out, and prised open (a total bastard in the rain), the shell then can be dumped with the rest. The cartridges are lighter but come in bigger boxes which once again are steel and are resistant to a casual attempt to open them, once the box is opened the cartridges are found to be encased in big plastic tubes and the caps on these can be a bugger to rive off. The amount of litter from the packing is unbelievable and you have to deal with the 'empties' on a rational basis - in other words keep a tidy platform - or the crew would grind to a halt in a pile of empty steel boxes and carboard tubes. Now that's just for plain HE - if you have exotic shells (smoke, illuminating, HESH or marker) then you have the added complication of different fuzes, which - yes you have guessed it - come with a lot of protective packaging. All in all ammo humping is heavy work and if you are one of the three ammo numbers you are guaranteed bleeding hands and ripped fingernails. Now I'm lucky enough to never have been involved in a real shooting war, however I have been on exercises were the rounds fired were just not funny and especially as End-Ex looms (and the ranges are due to close) the ammo expenditure moves away from conservative and reasonably sane levels to outrageous almost Battle of the Somme levels (returning unboxed ammunition is a admin and logistic nightmare). One particular Brigade level exercise (two light gun regiments and a FH70 regiment) ended up with the last set of Fire Orders as something like 'Fire Mission Brigade, Lone Sniper in a Tree, expend ammunition'. My gun (one of eight in our Battery) fired off about 35 rounds in minutes, a lot of which needed unpacking and at one point I had the RSM and the Padre helping my ammo numbers in the unboxing and prep. TLDR You need hands and muscle to back those hands to bust caps. Ubique.
They're doing tables not a training exercise, all rounds and fuzes should have been verified before the test began. And if their proctor didn't let them do that to prepare, then he's a jerk lol
Well my unit moved onto the L118 from the 5.5's (WW2 vintage) so the Light Gun was a dream. I crewed on an L119 during a Crew Commanders course at Larkhill and while it's much of a muchness, I didn't like the ammunition system as much as the L118's.
@@ronhall9394 If deployed as a direct fire weapon, there is not enough calibers to be a excellent field gun. I prefer the ancient PAK 40 over this. As a indirect fire weapon it is truly accurate at four miles maybe five. Lastly I don't like the exhaust gas in my face. It has no fume extractor which is a bummer. That said the gun is not the all singing all dancing the U.S. Army promised to be. It is over nearly 50 years old and not a timeless machine. However these guys got a mission to do and criticism is not allowed.
While you're sitting your ass on your couch, you're the coward. You don't have the balls or physical strength to be in the Army. I bet your a fat fuck eating cake obese boy.
you can really see how excited they are
People dont get how intensely dangerous it is for the crews themselves to do direct fire, usually in range of your own ordinance. Though this is from experience on M-777 . 2-11 FAR 2 SBCT now IBCT.
charlie btry in Hawaii?
Its crazy how close they are when the gun recoils.
Newer model dosent recoil nearly as far. These are the old Variable Recoil models from the look of it. Definitely A2 models. Also never saw a reason to have 2 guys in trails and a third gunning, happy they kinda changed that to just one in trails.
Well done! Some fine work there by some highly motivated gunners.
Amazing speed. That’s a well polished crew.
Welllll..... Speed vs Safety. They were decently fast but that AG putting in the Jack Strut made an extremely unsafe move having his whole body under the trails. Seen that fall on someones leg and I would rather take a few extra seconds to ensure we keep a guy in the fight especially if its just for training.
That was intense. Adrenaline pumps lol doing this with a M777 howitzer was brutal lol
hell yeah! outstanding work!
1 st round d range in 1:31 seconds good job!
Started a little slow it seemed, but once first round out things went smooth as butter.
All those guys chilling inside the trails on charge 7. Smh that’s super dangerous
yeah... I was at Ft Richardson and Ft Greely Alaska in the 80's with the M102. frozen ground you couldn't dig proper spade holes and ice gets in the wheel brake sprocket.... saw some wild and hairy stuff... especially direct fire
WrathchildNH I can only imagine😂😂
I was in Apache Company when this was recorded.
Badass!! UBIQUE
Ой, Привет МАСТИМУС!
Here's one for the Gunners. What's in action when the gun is out of action, but out of action when the Gun is in action?🤔
I got's to know?
@@TheDustysix the barrel clamp. 😉
@@terryteed1903 sorry for being late (I'm not in the military, nor ex military) the enemy tanks?
@@hobogrifter no mate. The barrel clamp. It's in action when the gun is out of action and blah blah lol.
Anti Personnel and Vehicles. Not the best on Tanks. British have HESH I believe.
if there were British army soldiers next to them they would just call this l118 because this Howitzer was originally made in the United Kingdom then exported to the United States
We need some Guillotines.
Direct dire. One last shot on earth for the gunners. Enemy tanks are right in front of you. One shot. Then you run for your life.
Always…the King of Battle! 🇺🇸
Designed in Britain. So is the M777.
king of Battle
1 dude....turns whole gun around :D keep it up!!!
love those AT/Artys
I’m proud that this and the M777 are British designs.
In Australian Artillery we were never allowed to stand inside the trails.
In knew a PF Bombardier that nearly had his head taken off from the recoil of the gun
Team work.. that's a big boys gun 💪
What is this, an alpha section vs bravo section completion for a platoon in an artillery battery.
No it looks like bravo btry
Would they use AP rounds for direct fire against tanks?
There are no AP rounds for artillery in US inventory. There was a 105mm HEAT round available in the past (M662) but I don't personally know whether that's even been produced, let alone issued, in recent decades.
In contrast, larger 155mm artillery would have much better effect by simply using HE and either aiming for weak points or (if possible) airbursting rounds directly over the engine decks of MBTs. Shells of that size have enough explosive mass to threaten any tank that currently exists.
Brits had HESH I think.
ATGW's are the way today. The USMC ditched it's Tanks, for several reasons, and greatly reduced tube Artillery.
Hit the Tube or a Tread. Look out if you miss.
@@TheDustysix what is this ATGW?
OOO SHA YOU DAMN REDLEGS......OOO SHAAA !!!!!
first draw at 1:30, not bad 👌
Fuck that base plate for real haha
Hi Sir👋still active,hope more video soon
During WWII a crew-served naval 5 " gun could rip out 20 rounds in a minute. And 30 when a kamikaze was headed there way.
Bullshit
@@meadervanwyk4722 FACT. WWII five inch crews were drilled and drilled until they achieved "inhuman perfection"...
"Sea of Thunder" Evan Thomas. naval gunnery is different in every way from land artillery. five inch class naval weapons these days are fully automatic.
@BjarneLinetsky I do apologize I was referring to a 5.5 inch field gun the best we could achieve was eight rounds per minute . Normal rapid fire was classed at four rounds per minute. We achieve this during a operation in Angola in the eighties
@@meadervanwyk4722 At that time, i was knocking around Westpac on a frigate (FF) we were the test bed for the new CIWS vulcan phalanx, those cute little R2D2 things that you see on most naval vessels. First weapon to use DU rounds.
WOW LOOK OUT DIRECT FIRE KABOOM
“March order!!!”
Ty
Big Dogs in action, 😉👍
how long is that range (as they seem to fire direct fire)? Was there a competition between 2 gun crews, hence what was the reason of this competition?
Where’s the canister? Ducks be hurtin’.
DIRECT FIRE BABY
I hated that camo pattern. It didn't blend into anything.
There was one time we were observing some enemy mortar fire on our FOB in Iraq so I hit the ground behind a pile of gravel that was to be used for road surfaces in the motorpool. A few rounds impacted about 150 meters from where I was. As I lie there in the gravel, I remember thinking to myself, "Hey, I finally blend in some of the terrain here."
@@slayer8actual The weird shit you think about when you're in mortal danger. Love it.
Especially two inside trails...smh. but...pretty fast and reckkess
Works on the shooting range not in real combat
No auto ejection of spent cases? Seems like a slow rate of fire.
Not really. This m119 has a 4 feet of recoil which makes it a little slower. A3’s now have 2 feet so it’s faster to open the breach. Opening an closing the breach is easy and wouldn’t make a difference in time if it were auto eject
Not true. We could have another shell up the breach before full recoil run out. I kind of miss the cordite farts hahahahaha.
@@terryteed1903 hell yea dude damn i miss artillery King of battle bitches!
Seems like the rate was limited by the preparation of rounds off screen
No ear pro? Ouch
@@Freshavadado12 no, ear pro is mandatory now for artillery teams
Fucking love it
Watch "AMG HMMWV/Mandus Hawkeye" video. FOOBS 105mm on a Hummer. Shoot and scoot.
They got canister rounds for direct fire?
No not anymore
im m777 myself its really weird seeing a whole different crew drill for the same purpose lmao
Both British guns.
До чего же допотопная техника! Не стыдно такой пользоваться?
Can this really destroy the tank?
If needed to yes. Tanks aren’t invincible. Artillery is best used for indirect fire like halting advancing enemies, destroying buildings etc
This is a M119 105mm howitzer. Unless it's an old T-62, you won't do much to a modern tank...
With a direct hit from a M777 155mm howitzer however, you could potentially knock out the crew of a modern MBT and maybe even rupture its armor!
Notice how good they worked without some hyped up bombadier screaming for a promotion shouting ....
I would not want to be on the other side of that.
Cool piece of History
All in all super out of date, dangerous and ineffective, all in a plethora of ways
Beautiful Humanistic Art
Just 7 Men Freedoming hard or hardly Freedoming
They know their duty and how many Lives depend on them to Continue or Cease by their command
Atleast I hope
But the 105s are so far past their prime
I just can’t see anyway to justify keeping them, atleast as they are, relative to their Good performance
Because they just aren’t enough
The Hawkeye program or simply going all in on M777s, in several ways, seem to be drastically better in most regards
Might be a little scary expensive at first, vaguely expensive by US standards, but drastically cheaper in the long term anyways so that’s not much of a complaint
These are just holdovers
Good enough for future Medium to Lesser Wars, think Proxy Wars and liquidated stock, but not reaching for anything
Even if upgraded; probably not worth keeping in the US Military
Ukraine probably enjoy’s them though, numerous and Capable with a big stockpile of old ammo
But they’re only Good there because the Medium of War is far lower than it could be
If pushed to perform; they simply couldn’t
And I guarantee in Ukraine, as has been documented with several older artillery models; they’re not enough
1:40
Base plate was slow af😈
الآن ايها الأمريكيون الحرب انتهت بالهزيمة في افغانستان التي لا يشوبها شك، أما امل الانتصار على أفغانستان موجود، و من حقكم تجدوه في"سينما هوليوود"....
👌
Yush
No way the guy has the same name as me lol
Safety doesn't surpass time...EVER!
Come on USA.... its about time to innovate these 105s and build with self eject. Too many bodies, too much personnel tied up in one gun. WW2 German 88s offered auto ejection.
The Light Gun, both the L118 and L119 (M119) are designed as a very light no-nonsense heli portable gun, they are kept as simple as possible and are very easy to maintain in the field and any unnecessary frills like 'auto-ejection' (which I haven't seen on modern any gun/howitzer) are not incorporated.
The gun crew is usually six and the crew member who operates the breech and unloads the spent cartridge also rams the round, so if you got rid of him, you would have to build in an auto-rammer, more weight and another failure point. One other point, these guns have the ability to fire High Angle - in this mode the gun barrel points almost straight up - an auto-ejection system could cause some problems and probably damage equipment and possibly damage the crew.
"Too many bodies, too much personnel tied up in one gun".
Often in training, ammunition expenditure is limited and it does seem like a full crew of six is surplus to requirements, however when you start upping the rate of fire, ammunition handling becomes a problem. Ammunition has to be securely packed to withstand transportation over dubious roads, so when the ammo truck dumps 30 rounds of ammo on your gun position (which wont last long given the standard 'treatment'' of a target is 5 rounds Fire for Effect) that's a lot of unpacking of sturdy crates to do.
The shells come in a steel box, two to a box (box weighs about 70lbs), the boxes are built to take some rough treatment so have to be kicked open, then the shells are in cardboard tubes that have to be eased out, and prised open (a total bastard in the rain), the shell then can be dumped with the rest. The cartridges are lighter but come in bigger boxes which once again are steel and are resistant to a casual attempt to open them, once the box is opened the cartridges are found to be encased in big plastic tubes and the caps on these can be a bugger to rive off. The amount of litter from the packing is unbelievable and you have to deal with the 'empties' on a rational basis - in other words keep a tidy platform - or the crew would grind to a halt in a pile of empty steel boxes and carboard tubes.
Now that's just for plain HE - if you have exotic shells (smoke, illuminating, HESH or marker) then you have the added complication of different fuzes, which - yes you have guessed it - come with a lot of protective packaging. All in all ammo humping is heavy work and if you are one of the three ammo numbers you are guaranteed bleeding hands and ripped fingernails.
Now I'm lucky enough to never have been involved in a real shooting war, however I have been on exercises were the rounds fired were just not funny and especially as End-Ex looms (and the ranges are due to close) the ammo expenditure moves away from conservative and reasonably sane levels to outrageous almost Battle of the Somme levels (returning unboxed ammunition is a admin and logistic nightmare). One particular Brigade level exercise (two light gun regiments and a FH70 regiment) ended up with the last set of Fire Orders as something like 'Fire Mission Brigade, Lone Sniper in a Tree, expend ammunition'.
My gun (one of eight in our Battery) fired off about 35 rounds in minutes, a lot of which needed unpacking and at one point I had the RSM and the Padre helping my ammo numbers in the unboxing and prep.
TLDR
You need hands and muscle to back those hands to bust caps.
Ubique.
Tube/Rocket Artillery is Obsolete.
Direct fire, unusual for artillery
it is made in thaiand
Winchester Silvertip's eh.
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M.
Didnt even check fuse
They're doing tables not a training exercise, all rounds and fuzes should have been verified before the test began. And if their proctor didn't let them do that to prepare, then he's a jerk lol
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Where the FUCK is their safety...coil spring g covers still on? Lifting trails with gunner on trails? So unsafe
Direct fire? Not much trajectory. 😆
Can only fire on super charge
RAM RAM
Up
my ears are bleeding
Didnt even truly verify rounds...shame on chief
Man its automatic to know that it fires HE its an artillery man.
Lol
Russian Howitzer much better
😂😂😂😂😂😂
women are allowed to do this now? they will be recording record of fire instead of heavy lifting
Not necessarily. They can fulfill any of the duties of a 13B #1,2 as well as ATC, and AG
@@stephenachievin Watch Finnish artillery videos. Women are carrying rounds.
Eeeee
I hate this gun. I really do. I will explain if you must.
Well my unit moved onto the L118 from the 5.5's (WW2 vintage) so the Light Gun was a dream. I crewed on an L119 during a Crew Commanders course at Larkhill and while it's much of a muchness, I didn't like the ammunition system as much as the L118's.
@@ronhall9394
If deployed as a direct fire weapon, there is not enough calibers to be a excellent field gun. I prefer the ancient PAK 40 over this. As a indirect fire weapon it is truly accurate at four miles maybe five. Lastly I don't like the exhaust gas in my face. It has no fume extractor which is a bummer.
That said the gun is not the all singing all dancing the U.S. Army promised to be. It is over nearly 50 years old and not a timeless machine.
However these guys got a mission to do and criticism is not allowed.
Slow AF
Lol these guys are slow
Bunch of cowards
mete un you are so idiot you dont even know about it, you're welcome
While you're sitting your ass on your couch, you're the coward. You don't have the balls or physical strength to be in the Army. I bet your a fat fuck eating cake obese boy.
How about you join the army? I wanna see how long you can last on the battlefield.
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I love aa guns and anti aircraft guns especially a hotwizer