Now that is why I love steam engines. They are majestic as they go down the tracks, and they look and sound much more beautiful than the diesels do. Long live steam engines! May you never leave us.
@@gabetrain8834 If 3713 and 2317 are going to restore but not 3254. What will happen next to CN 3254 even though it's frame is bended back in that crash 99 years ago I think. They should just rebuild 3254s frame into a new frame from the 3D blueprint if not what will happen for the next 17 years
@@TrainMedia00 3254 will still be around, it just won’t be operated any more. So don’t worry about anything bad happening to it 👍 As for it’s frame problem, I think they can’t fix it due to how to government is treating the NPS. But hey, on the bright side we have 26 to keep some steam there at Steamtown
@@gabetrain8834 Hey I just love this steam locomotive my favourite mikado type. At least we have Southern railway 4501 and Grand Canyon Railway number 4960 these mikados are still out there. Hey I can't to see ATSF 2926 up and running the mainline in person I'm such a big fan of Santa Fe railway
I don't know about mechanical problems, it may be money money problems than anything else. They're dumping a lot of money into the Boston and Maine engine, and if there's anything wrong with 2317, I'm sure they are taking a back seat with her, and trying to get the B&M up and running so they still have two operable engines running on the mainline.
So 2317 has to go through the 15 year inspect first, then I'm guessing 3254 has to go in not that much later... Boy they better get that B&M together fast!
@@henrybrightonmusicuploads It won’t return. From people in the know, “The frame is bent like a fucking banana.” 2317 is unlikely to return as well, according to the 3713 project. The running gear is extremely worn, some parts beyond condemning.
@tachikoma747 The rule is a Federal Law. It was explained to me best by the head shop man Will at Steamtown. It's basically a 5 year rebuild, 1472 days if you ran the locomotives every day. No one operates their trains for 5 years without resting them. As long as you leave 15 lbs. of steam in the locomotive you can still run a few days without using one of your 1472 "days". But, the exception is that every fifteen years you MUST have the locomotion re-inspected. Goes for everyone.
@mdurdan 2317 is getting taken out of commission due to the 15 year inspection that is a Federal Law and thus the 2317 will be in rebuild for the foreseeable future. With Baldwin 26 being the next engine to be rebuilt, 2317 is likely to be finished behind 3713, then and only then, would they consider rebuilding any other locomotives. It's the understanding of many that we will not likely see Boston and Maine 3713 much sooner than 2012.
Haha, well she was on haitus... She hadn't ventured out onto the mainline in several years prior to this, and is now subject to the same fate once again. (She is no longer mainline certified anymore, she was only for the short time in 2007, I believe.)
I'm not sure if I used the right terminology, but basically 2317 isn't allowed to go out onto the main because she has several minor issues from what I've been told.
actualy the 2317 is stil runing. the othor 2 wil be done in aprox 5 years and no the big boy is not part of steamtowns colection it is privately owned although the curves ARE WIDE ENUF to fit the big boy it would take millions of dolars to get runing and permission from the owner.I think the main concern would be weight if they wer to get the big boy runing (witch their un fortunitely not planing)
sounds like it makes sense but I just don't know why they wouldn't then be letting 2317 run more than 3254. Don't they have to be inspected every 15 years? Because if that's the case maybe they are running 3254 like mad because it might have to go into repair before 2317 does, and maybe that's the real reason.
Oh Yeah! CP Pacific sounds 10 times better than CN Mikado hands down! I love Canadian Pacific and Toronto Hamilton and Buffalo Ry. the TH&B was own by NYC and CP and the biggest steamers TH&B had was 2 2-8-4's which are scrapped in 1953 and I just wonder how they sound back then. Thank you very much for posting this video. Very thing about this video made my day. :D
I hear Steamtown's running a re-dedication excursion to East Stroudsburg to re-dedicate the Dansbury Depot. The power will be Reading FP-7's 902 and 903. In my opinion, 3254 would be better looking. Or the Lackawanna F-3 units because the Lackawanna was the railroad that used the depot.
@Giants02122 I like how Strasburg seems to get around that rule. The story is the same as its always been: if you want to see consistently great steam, go to Strasburg. 4 operating locomotives and no annoying corporate trackage right issues.
Strasburg does not get around that rule. The 5-year (1472 day) rebuild does not have to last 5 years. It just must be completed every 1472 operating days, and in theory could be completed in weeks if nothing is wrong with the engine. Typically Strasburg has at least two other engines serviceable while one of them is down for a 1472.
@mdurdan I don't know where you get your information but you are 95% wrong. The only thing you right on is that the Big Boy will not run again. The Big Boy is owned by Steamtown and always has been part of the same collection since Blount purchased her. There is no track left that can support the weight and curvature that the Big Boy needs to run. Even if there is some still out there it's no where near the location of the 4012.
@@CENsystem also that inspection hasn't started yet since steamtown is restoring 3713 and is said to maybe operational by 2021 and then 2317 will begin its next overhaul and then eventually 3254 as well
Steamtown does not own the track, I am not sure who does, but I think Norfolk Southern has their hands in there somewhere. I hope someone more knowledgeable can jump in here and correct me if I'm wrong.
I loved the 2317 but shame on the park service its not the B and M engine I call I a big farce and I wonder if they can take it some were they can open it p to more the 30MPH or the Reading 2124 for there should be one reginal engine running the feelings are strong a lot of money spent not much to show for it. when the mike need repaire I think that would be it an the ParkService wilol not give one dam
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I can't get enough of that whistle.
Beautiful sound.
Can't believe this video is 15 years old!!!
Now that is why I love steam engines. They are majestic as they go down the tracks, and they look and sound much more beautiful than the diesels do. Long live steam engines! May you never leave us.
Brilliant these films!
Wow Joe! Great Job! I'm glad you enjoyed yourself with 2317. I know I did.
I saw this locomotive in 2016 in person with 3254 Very nostalgic I wish they come to operation and becoming new excursion stars 🥺🙏
If steamtown ever gets B&M 3713 done, 2317 is gonna be restored next. And I pray the whistle sounds just like it did back in 2007
@@gabetrain8834 If 3713 and 2317 are going to restore but not 3254. What will happen next to CN 3254 even though it's frame is bended back in that crash 99 years ago I think. They should just rebuild 3254s frame into a new frame from the 3D blueprint if not what will happen for the next 17 years
@@TrainMedia00 3254 will still be around, it just won’t be operated any more. So don’t worry about anything bad happening to it 👍 As for it’s frame problem, I think they can’t fix it due to how to government is treating the NPS. But hey, on the bright side we have 26 to keep some steam there at Steamtown
@@gabetrain8834 Hey I just love this steam locomotive my favourite mikado type. At least we have Southern railway 4501 and Grand Canyon Railway number 4960 these mikados are still out there. Hey I can't to see ATSF 2926 up and running the mainline in person I'm such a big fan of Santa Fe railway
@@TrainMedia00 gonna be nice to see 2926 running on the main for sure
Great video - love that scene coming out of Scranton. If you get any closer to that train you'll need a ticket. Keep up the good work.
I just love her whistle, it so in your face!
I never got to ride behind it, but I remember seeing it in the shops.
MMMM!!!!! THAT WHISTLE THOUGH!!!
That stack talk at 1:00 sounds FANTASTIC!
That’s how you know a steam locomotive is working hard
R.I.P CP 2317
nice video I like the wheels shot on the 5th run buy
nice whstle action too
When 2317 returned where was 3254
I was on an excursion to Moscow and back behind the 2317 in 2007
great video as always NOTHING BUT THE BEST
1:16 So Much Power! & NICE ANGLE!
Steamtown National Locomotive 2317
0:45 [train whistle] 0:55 [train chugging]
3:53 [train whistle] 0:55 [train chugging]
1:21 [wheels clacking] 2:38 [wheels clacking]
I love her five chime wishal
I don't know about mechanical problems, it may be money money problems than anything else. They're dumping a lot of money into the Boston and Maine engine, and if there's anything wrong with 2317, I'm sure they are taking a back seat with her, and trying to get the B&M up and running so they still have two operable engines running on the mainline.
Let’s hope that this locomotive comes back one day!
The chances are very unlikely I’m afraid as it’s said 2317 is in poor condition following 30 years of use by steamtown
@@atsfevan0242 who knows with enough time and money she might be back someday!
@@rudycarlson8245 well steamtown is more focused on getting B&M 3713 completed.
@@atsfevan0242 do you know if there’s any more progress on Boston and Maine 3713?
I like his whistle
Good to see her runnin again. When I was there they were repairing her rear axle.
I said... Beautiful the step of the train for the bridge of the river... Regards...
Lets Pray..
You're tellin' me!
So 2317 has to go through the 15 year inspect first, then I'm guessing 3254 has to go in not that much later... Boy they better get that B&M together fast!
Unfortunately 3254 has a slim chance of ever returning
@@henrybrightonmusicuploads It won’t return. From people in the know, “The frame is bent like a fucking banana.”
2317 is unlikely to return as well, according to the 3713 project. The running gear is extremely worn, some parts beyond condemning.
@@blackbirdgaming8147 I love that choice of wording, but it’s still sad.
@tachikoma747 The rule is a Federal Law. It was explained to me best by the head shop man Will at Steamtown. It's basically a 5 year rebuild, 1472 days if you ran the locomotives every day. No one operates their trains for 5 years without resting them. As long as you leave 15 lbs. of steam in the locomotive you can still run a few days without using one of your 1472 "days". But, the exception is that every fifteen years you MUST have the locomotion re-inspected. Goes for everyone.
what whistle is that
@mdurdan 2317 is getting taken out of commission due to the 15 year inspection that is a Federal Law and thus the 2317 will be in rebuild for the foreseeable future. With Baldwin 26 being the next engine to be rebuilt, 2317 is likely to be finished behind 3713, then and only then, would they consider rebuilding any other locomotives. It's the understanding of many that we will not likely see Boston and Maine 3713 much sooner than 2012.
Haha, well she was on haitus... She hadn't ventured out onto the mainline in several years prior to this, and is now subject to the same fate once again. (She is no longer mainline certified anymore, she was only for the short time in 2007, I believe.)
I'm not sure if I used the right terminology, but basically 2317 isn't allowed to go out onto the main because she has several minor issues from what I've been told.
Man the 2317 has a beautiful horn....
It’s called a whistle
They do but its sat in the same spot ever since i can remember. I don't think it will ever run.
Perhaps her original CP-5 Chime... Sounds Great on '17!
Such a classic
3:53 that should be good for trainz
Trainguy2929 Productions It already is by good ol' ALW.
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actualy the 2317 is stil runing. the othor 2 wil be done in aprox 5 years and no the big boy is not part of steamtowns colection it is privately owned although the curves ARE WIDE ENUF to fit the big boy it would take millions of dolars to get runing and permission from the owner.I think the main concern would be weight if they wer to get the big boy runing (witch their un fortunitely not planing)
It's all active mainline, used by the Delaware-Lackawanna Railroad.
Ok thanks. It sounded great.
sounds like it makes sense but I just don't know why they wouldn't then be letting 2317 run more than 3254. Don't they have to be inspected every 15 years? Because if that's the case maybe they are running 3254 like mad because it might have to go into repair before 2317 does, and maybe that's the real reason.
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Oh Yeah! CP Pacific sounds 10 times better than CN Mikado hands down! I love Canadian Pacific and Toronto Hamilton and Buffalo Ry. the TH&B was own by NYC and CP and the biggest steamers TH&B had was 2 2-8-4's which are scrapped in 1953 and I just wonder how they sound back then. Thank you very much for posting this video. Very thing about this video made my day. :D
Shame shes no longer running
Nice train.
just wait a minute,,,
O_O
Isn't that the Polar Express whistle??!!! 8D
3:52 ALLLLL ABOOOOARD!!!
I hear Steamtown's running a re-dedication excursion to East Stroudsburg to re-dedicate the Dansbury Depot. The power will be Reading FP-7's 902 and 903. In my opinion, 3254 would be better looking. Or the Lackawanna F-3 units because the Lackawanna was the railroad that used the depot.
@JoMiFu So during this hiatus, was she actually inoperable, or just limited to yard shuttles?
@Giants02122 I like how Strasburg seems to get around that rule. The story is the same as its always been: if you want to see consistently great steam, go to Strasburg. 4 operating locomotives and no annoying corporate trackage right issues.
Strasburg does not get around that rule. The 5-year (1472 day) rebuild does not have to last 5 years. It just must be completed every 1472 operating days, and in theory could be completed in weeks if nothing is wrong with the engine. Typically Strasburg has at least two other engines serviceable while one of them is down for a 1472.
What type of whistle was on the 2317?
I know this is redundant, it’s been 13 years, but it’s a Canadian Pacific 5 chime.
well what are are the minor issues?
JoMiFu when will 26 operate
No DL Alco footage on the return trip?
@mdurdan I don't know where you get your information but you are 95% wrong. The only thing you right on is that the Big Boy will not run again. The Big Boy is owned by Steamtown and always has been part of the same collection since Blount purchased her. There is no track left that can support the weight and curvature that the Big Boy needs to run. Even if there is some still out there it's no where near the location of the 4012.
@Robofish12 its called a whistle
Are they still running this one yet if comment if they do please
no 2317 retired in 2010, she is going under a FRA inspection, have you not realize this was out of service?
@@CENsystem also that inspection hasn't started yet since steamtown is restoring 3713 and is said to maybe operational by 2021 and then 2317 will begin its next overhaul and then eventually 3254 as well
@@atsfevan0242 yea, I know that, let's hope they can get the 3713 restoration speeding up
Steamtown does not own the track, I am not sure who does, but I think Norfolk Southern has their hands in there somewhere. I hope someone more knowledgeable can jump in here and correct me if I'm wrong.
I just subscribed
Check out rollinswitch for the Alco stuff.
Sorry i did the word wrong
Great video. Must of been a bitch to grease these locomotives, before the power greasers.
2317 el tren video
I loved the 2317 but shame on the park service its not the B and M engine I call I a big farce and I wonder if they can take it some were they can open it p to more the 30MPH or the Reading 2124 for there should be one reginal engine running the feelings are strong a lot of money spent not much to show for it. when the mike need repaire I think that would be it an the ParkService wilol not give one dam
Lmmmk