Happy Monday everyone! It’s an early start but we have another video posting at 9am EST today as well! If you guys have been waiting for an electric version of your Lexus RX, the wait is finally over! Just be sure that you don’t need to take too many long road trips or use your old Lexus or borrow one of the loaner vehicles from your dealership to do that 😅
Sofyan I feel sorry that you fell victim to Lexus’s pathetic marketing stunts. You really wasted your time with this ev. Nobody cares about this ev and deep down inside you probably don’t either. 😂 The time you wasted with this joke could have been spent driving evs that are ACTUALLY competitive
I really hope you spoke to the representatives during the launch and told them 220/196 mile range is not only uncompetitive, but unacceptable for the price they are asking for. With Battery degradation and climate further impacting the range, this isn’t an appeal alternative to anything in this price range.
@@naveenthemachineh yes the same dude who said the bz4x is a joke cuz it doesn’t have enough power🗿🗿 Bot ngl this car is also a bit disappointing Edit: actually 🤓 since when did you need so much range to go from home to work (unless you go on very long roadtrips) and the horsepower🗿🗿🗿
But wait, If your going on a long road trip you can contact Lexus for a internal combustion engine vehicle. Lexus just proved electric is not even close to actually being ready, and is as they just proved, a nuisance. Low range, slow charge nuisance. Not to mention the harm to the environment they are partaking in. But don’t worry, once this brain dead administration is out of office, electric will slow right down.
Low range, slow charge, no frunk and on the low end in terms of cargo space, 60k staring price before any stealership markups and no rebates…..I don’t know why anyone would put this as a top choice compared to what’s available now in the market now.
I went to the car show and saw this car in person. The car looks amazing, especially in person. Two tone paint is gorgeous. The interior is ultra luxurious. $60k, ok, I can see that. Then I saw the range 196 miles, deal breaker! Lexus, it's 2023.
Me too. At the dealer a couple weeks ago to pickup my wife’s new Nx hybrid. I love the design, the immaculate build quality. But the 200 miles range don’t cut it. Take it to 300 miles and I will gladly pay $10k than the MYLR for the build quality itself. I couldn’t care less about supercharging since this is just a 200 miles range car, ain’t gonna take it on road trips.
Same here. Range is ridiculous for such a pricey car. Have the Rx450H hybrid which I love but the fuel consumption is a joke and spend more on petrol than any other car I’ve had. Test drove the RZ today and it’s a beautiful drive and the interior is immaculate as expected but the range is a total deal breaker and that’s a shame
At this price, I couldn't imagine considering this over an EV6 or Ioniq 5... Slower charging, less powerful, arguably less feature packed, less range. Brand name only means so much.
The comparison is with a Genesis, not a Kia or Hyundai. The Koreans always offers more for less. Toyota and Lexus is more reliable. The charging is slower because they are guaranteeing 90% battery life after 10 years. Faster charging kills batteries. Toyota is really not in the EV game fully yet...this is just the start. The Koreans are way ahead but I wouldn't buy one yet.
@@Justmejbful Still, all though I could afford the GV60 I chose to buy an EV6... Again brand name is meaning less now a days and Toyota/Lexus needs to realize this. It's relative. I'm sure some people get a rise of having the luxury brand name, but to me it doesn't matter if the less expensive vehicle has all the same features, I could live without the GV60's crystal shifter and slight bump in power (especially since it takes a fairly substantial range hit). On the topic of charge speed and how long the battery will last... Toyota/Lexus can make all the claims they want on longevity, but what really matters is the warranty. One single battery cell can go bad in the back and the whole thing needs replacing. Toyota doesn't build their own battery, they get it from Panasonic (I believe), so you have to have faith in that companys manufacturing being good enough to last the life of the car, if not you hope the manufacturer warranty covers it. To any extent, Lexus/Toyota are selling these under competitive vehicles as beta products to consumers to see what works, breaks and fails. All brands do this, but Toyota happened to be so far behind the pack, even though they excel at hybrids that it just doesn't make sense that they would release such a poor shot into the market.
@NeoTechOps It's your choice what you choose to buy. The Nissan Ariya looks the best to me but I'll wait to see how the EV market plays out over the next 3 years. I would bet that Toyota commitment to quality and reliability remain intact though.
it's all about reliability, the EV6 and Ioniq 5 seem fine until actual ownership down the road. How much value will those EVs have and the reliability of the battery after the warranty runs out? Lexus has a pretty good history in regard to even their hybrid batteries that last more than 8 years and still retain good range.
Not defending the ridiculously low range of the Lexus, but keep in mind one gallon of gas is equal to nearly 34kwh.... so with your gas tank being almost 13 gallons = 426kwh battery vs. 71kwh.... which is just over 2 equivalent gallons...
@@SDot-dp9xm Yeah...I'm sure people will do that math when they're anxious trying to squeeze the last 20 miles to the next charging station that may or not be working.
Key stuff (IMO): 13:20 infotainment 14:17 instrument panel and heads up display 15:48 transmission controls (digital shifter) and console 18:38 backseat legroom, headroom, accessories, etc 20:27 drive handling, 0 to 60 (4.75 avg) 25:15 steer by wire (not available yet), yolk wheel alt 27:21 Conclusion: range (too low), charge speed (meh), pricing (min $59.5k US), loaner program (30 days alt car for road trips) = could help makeup for range deficiency.
@@jmckey Well, think about the 220v electric outlet you install in your garage to charge your EV. That electricity you’re using is being provided by many utilities powered by gas turbines. Kinda blows away the fairy dust perception that EV’s and 500K more charging stations save the planet.
@@douglashigginbotham7040 I don't think that's the goal though, from what I have heard is coal is used to produce electricity. It was like that since the 60's and now fossil fuel is being wasted away with daily combustion engines due to exponential population growth. Is it going to "save the planet"? No probably not but it is going to put fossil fuel to serve its purpose instead of wasted away as CO2 exhaust.
A $66,000 2nd or 3rd vehicle with less than 200 miles of range. 🤣 🤣 🤣 HUGE swing and a miss from Lexus on this. They need to get their heads out of their asses. Lol
Oh we do complain about the competition too. EVs should be over 300 miles of range to even start to compete with ICE vehicles. People tell me that is absurd but idk why it would be if EVs are supposed to be “better” then they should be competing mileage wise. Plug in hybrids just got skipped over and that’s a shame
The two tone is better on here than the Crown which I think Toyota could have done better by not bringing it to the rear trunk and bumper as a starter.
I'm honestly not mad about range, I drive 22-30 miles each day just for work and will be able to charge at home no problem. My hybrid is 3 years old and it gets 220 miles (3/4 of a tank) that will last me almost 2 weeks. Lexus offering the loaner option too will be nice to avoid using the RZ and putting miles on it. My only major complaint is Lexus did not price it competitively and I agree the 2-tone looks too busy IMO. I hope Lexus brings the RZ300e to The States because I am not sold with the $60K+ on top of the lower range it gets with the change of wheels. It's decent attempt for their first EV in The States but not for the price.
Agreed, I love everything about this car except the range and price. Even if it was like 260 miles with the 20 inch wheels I think that’s fine, but 196 is way too little in the current ev market. Hopefully they come out with the mid cycle refresh with a larger battery and the 12.3 inch gauge cluster screen.
Excellent build quality, superb quit, average range, 10 years guarantee, 15 years guarantee batteries, yoke steering wheel, superb. Nice addition to Lexus line up.
The range is below average and we don’t know how long those batteries will last because that’s their first battery electric vehicle. Don’t convince yourself😂
I really like the design language of this car. But not with less than 200 miles of range. The range is below standard today already. Maybe they will tell you there is a 24 months waiting period on this car.
220 with 18 inch wheels and range can be increased with OTA updates. Just look how much more range Polestar has got out of the Polestar 2 since when it was introduced.
@@benjaminsmith2287 The battery is only 60 + something KW usable. Even they can make some improvement, I am afraid it will still be below average. Whereas most other similar price car has 70+ kw usable. So assuming they can all make similar improvement, this generation Toyota/Lexus is at least 10% less range. And Polestar 2 is getting very exciting. They are doing a rear wheel powerful engine version with bigger batteries. Thumb's up to Polestar.
@@huckietam6746 Can't they change the buffer on it? If it has less range, so be it. Their aim is battery longevity. Polestar is fairly quietly steadily improving their cars.Going to rear wheel drive makes a lot of sense with the 2.
@@benjaminsmith2287 Maybe they will come up with a version of a battery with higher KW. Toyota/Lexus recent design language is really exciting. I hope they can surprise us once again.
Lexus makes such hideous cars and this is no exception. Toyota Group and Subaru really dropped the ball on this one, clearly a compliant car in all forms. Buyers are better looking at other manufacturers who are better prepared for electrification. This platform is the worst effort after Mazda.
@@naveenthemachine I agree on both points but it only gets 100 miles which is really poor for todays market. A Chevy Bolt/EUV or Niro/Ioniq/EV6 would give you more value for your buck.
I saw this car at a car show today compared to the RX. The RZ was a complete let down. It was underwhelming and felt like sitting in a toyato. I've really wanted an electric lexus but lexus was too conservative with this car.
In the market for a new car and decided to go with an EV this time. Have a Lyriq preordered since May 2022 and depending on how much more it's delayed (hearing Q4 2023 or early 2025 delivery now), might just go with the RZ instead...assuming it isn't similarly delayed. The range and lack of EV tax credit qualification hurts and definitely brings it to a trailing 2nd place compared to the Lyriq, but overall do dig basically everything else of the vehicle.
IMO, real world should mean something different for electric. If you only drive city, it doesn't matter as much the total range as you could theoretically charge at home every night. Real world to me for electric is when you need to drive 75-85mph (texas- Austin to Dallas 220 miles). This speed kills the range in the Lightning (different type of car, I know), and at 196 for RZ, you may even have to stop twice just to make it. Cruise control at 80mph and this may not even do 100 miles before you get range anxiety and need to charge.
Intelligent response. It all depends on how you would use the vehicle. If you want to drive around town it's okay. Anything outside of that is suicide.
agreed, this will be ideal for people living in the city or who do not travel much. Lexus is offering a "free of charge" loaner vehicle up to 30 days/year for a total of 3 years which means that the RZ will not be used or have any miles put on it.
@@agharuokansirim4935 Not ideal, not even for city driving. I own a EV and the recommended range is for a full charge to 100 % which it's not recommended for battery life . Ideally you charge to 80% a charge so do the math how many miles of range you get. Lexus dropped the ball on EV and it's showing
I'd rather own a Lexus RZ with a shorter range than own a Tesla. Very poor quality, battery issues, etc. Lexus/Toyota is tried and trusted with battery tech. They know what they are doing by opting for a short-range battery. They have a reputation to maintain and are not rushing to give a long-range vehicle with many problems. Most people who own electric vehicles don't drive more than 100 miles a day.
I don’t see range being an issue for most people unless you commute over 100 miles per day which is unlikely. That said, my lexus 3.5 n/a gas guzzler v6 can almost 50-70%+ that range 🤔
same, I commute to work about 30 miles a day I could commute to work with the RZ and not have to charge at all and have plenty to zip around town. If I decide to go on a road trip I'll just end up taking a loaner vehicle for free from Lexus and leave the RZ at home charged avoiding putting miles on it.
Funny to see cars bringing back suede or velour as we used to call it in a pillow back Buick Electra of around ‘80. I wonder if tufted seats are next. Honestly the interior to my eye isn’t nearly as nice as the leather clad 1997 RX300 I once owned.
Disappointed in this vehicle Lexus. Especially since we know they can do better. Toyota to me is starting to get like Honda/Acura while I love both of them they give us these half baked cars when they know we know they have the finances,resources and most importantly the brand loyalty following to do crazy things.
Honda and Acura are fine. They’re much more competitive than Toyota Lexus can be. In fact they’re the only Japanese brands who can give stiff competition to Hyundai Kia genesis
@@naveenthemachine🤣🤣🤣🤣 Acura hasn’t being the same for decades they dead Lexus is way ahead of them and Toyota the sales speaks for itself the options Toyota has Honda being dead
@@andersonrodriguez8258 no it’s not. Honda Acura outclass Toyota time after time. There’s a reason the civic accord crv pilot odyssey RDX MDX are ranked much higher than the Toyota Lexus counterpart. And it really shows
Having all of the electric motor components high up in the engine bay is indicative that this platform is merely a stop gap measure. Hopefully Lexus gets the new electric only platform from Toyota in 2026
@@anonymousguy6928 you know most people just want a simple driving experience without needing apps to rely on to keep near a charge network,. Thus why gas cars still win ...
@@truckercowboyed2638 well the app was just so you could look into it without actually owning an EV. An actual EV will automatically route you through EV chargers so no worrying necessary. Plus, I feel like people forget that you won’t be needing public charging stations every day; only for road trips. On a day to day basis you’ll just charge it at home in your garage. It’ll be at 100% every morning. Most people don’t go on road trips very often so they may never need an actual charging station🤷♂️
@@anonymousguy6928 lots of people travel for work actually like business trips or something, you do know people like truckers and trade jobs have to travel on the road, so an EV wouldn't work for all of them
This vehicle is nearly outdated before it's first year on the market. Low range,no retractable sunroof,boring interior, flimsy display. For 60 G starting better options are definitely available .I score this 6 out of ten
i have the 2021 450h blackline F sport and love it, i hope not all will have the hood a different color b/c i find that ugly and the yolk steering wheel is something they need to give ppl options on.solid color and a round steering im in.they def need to make a F sport edtion , other then that i love it
You have to build an electric vehicle from the ground up. I saw the RX350 in person and it is a great vehicle. The only downside in the instrument panel. That display should be at least an OLED at its price and it should be much brighter. Without the frunk, you would expect even more space for electronics and batteries. A minimum range of 300 miles is needed. I'm so surprised by Toyota/Lexus on this.
The US testers don't have the same access to driving them on the streets as the Euro testers. The Euro testers have very favorable comments on the variable steer by wire (yoke) model.
I "kind of" like the two tone BUT for me, being 71 years old, I would probably opt for the solid color. NOT impressed with the 200 mile range. Like that it is built in Japan. Don't like the slower charging speed. I don't think I am going to be an electric car buyer until I see at least a 300 mile range (regardless if I am using heat, AC, or nothing) within the 10 to 80% (usable) range and be able to charge at home on a level two charging station over night (in less than 9 hours). That's what I think electric cars need to do before people are going to make an electric car their ONLY CAR! And lastly, the national infrastructure for charging needs to get a LOT better.
Wait longer for Lexus to improve their EV’s range and charging times while Tesla will still be lacking in refinement and build quality so the only thing Tesla has going for in the future is charging ability compared to all other EVs
@@Reu_ag Good. I don't know why so many people are so hung up on range. The car does a lot of things very right IMO. I like the radiant heat feature and steer by wire.
Ok, I know Lexus buyers that switch to Tesla, anyway, if the RZ 450e offered better range, I think Lexus would be shocked how well it could do, but with its range, can Lexus really justify its starting price and one wonders, how it would do with a lower starting price, overall, I would rank it, behind the Tesla Model Y (better EV in every way, note I said EV), next, the Cadillac Lyriq (one of Cads best model to date and feel worth its price), following the BMW iX (a problem, you have to look at it and dark colors look better) and next the Mercedes EQE SUV (I would wait for it), this may be a stretch, but I have the RZ 450e tied with the Audi e-tron (or upcoming 2024 Q8 e-tron, the name change), crazy but both of these EVs suffer the same problem, range, as for the Genesis GV60 (it's too small, enough said), I know Audi has the Q4 e-tron (it's fine, but wasn't a fan of the VW ID.4, so), I kind of always pull for Lexus or Cadillac vs the Germans, one would ask why didn't Lexus offer quicker charging and a larger battery pack, overall, it's what I expected from the first Lexus EV, given the fact Toyoyta's not a big EV fans
I don't see here the price should have to do much with range. This is an expensive car because it drives like an RX, but actually better and has some advancements of the RX.
E-tron equivalent to the RZ?? Are you kidding?? The Etron is way better than this RZ 450e. E-tron has the 96kwh battery capable of 240 mile range vs 196 miles. The Audi also has a 270KW charge rate vs only 150KW rate for the RZ. And offers 496hp for the Etron S version vs 300hp for the RZ.
I think the car is superb. I disagree with Sofyan about the dash needing stitching. This car has a jetcraft like dash and stitching would be out of place. I feel like the interior is like a sustainable private jet. The dash is one of the best Ii've seen because the screen doesn't look placed on or tacked on. It's integrated without it taking over the dash. I love the radiant heat. The steer by wire looks well done. The interior materials are sustainable in an EV. The acceleration is excellent, well more than adequate. I love the styling. I just think it's an excellent car. I'm not that big on range as a selling point of an EV. I look at whatever I look at with any other car(quality, refinement, drive, comfort, NVH levels, brake and steering feel, build quality and solidity) and hope it has usable range. It needs to be charged from a home. If you can't charge it from home, it's not the car for you. This is a much better car than the bZ4X which doesn't have as successful styling. I think this car's price is also right.
Thanks for the testdrive with the yoke. Exactly what I expected, the sterring by wire will easily overturn and could be hard to control how much you've turned. Maybe practice makes perfect. Maybe not.
Thanks for your work on these reviews, they've been a great resource. If the MSRP on the rz 450e was 20k lower, I think it'd be a great vehicle. There's just too much wanting for something around 65k.
@@benjaminsmith2287 I guess what Titus Pullo meant is that the expectation was for Lexus to leave everyone in its class way behind. The fact that came in last (and late), opens the doors for even Lexus loyalists - like myself - to look elsewhere. Had it been priced appropiately to its performance, it would be competitive. May be the reason they built so few is to let demand exceeed supply and justify the premium price.
@@manuelfigueroa9337 What's so premium about the price? How much is a GV70 electrified or Audi Q4 ETron or even the smaller Volvo XC40 Recharge (BEV)? For the size and features (close to an RX inside), and the fact that it is a BEV, it seems priced fair to me. The performance acceleration is similar to a Model Y long range, at least the 0-60. That's useable for most people. 65K just isn't what it used to be. The upper level Toyota Crowns are going to go for 55K and the Kia EV9 top spec will go over $70K. Lexus lags in range and charging speed but I don't see where it is so lacking in much else. Even the infotainment seems similar to others. Not as good as Tesla but pretty good.
@@benjaminsmith2287 Ben, thanks for pointing that out. I do agree that Audi Q4 ETron or the Volvo XC40 Recharge (BEV) are overpriced. From that perspective, the RZ can justify similar pricing. I do see the GV70 and the entire Genesis line as a class above Lexus in luxury and service and that may well be the root of my dissapointment.
@@manuelfigueroa9337 Genesis is above Lexus in service? I think that's where Lexus shines above most makes and Genesis has a ways to go. Maybe Genesis cars look more luxurious, but do they drive more luxuriously? I expect BEVs to be more costly than ICE vehicles until battery and other components prices come down.
Ether first choice. save the $1200. Charger door has the soft seal so you don't need to unplug another cover before charging. K.I.T.T. steer by wire should be in December 2023. Same 12oz can shelf from 4th Gen RX.
Most likely lease after my Polestar 2 lease is up in 2025. By then the Lexus should be more refined and defined. Wonder how much $$ for the OTA updates and services?
@@benjaminsmith2287 I am definitely interested in the Star 4 I am keeping my options open but I agree the RZ does have my attention. I'm just not too sold yet on the price.
The only thing this SUV has going for it is looks and tech. That “long range” is absolutely atrocious compared to an ICE vehicle and it’s lack of cargo space (especially a glovebox) and slow charging doesn’t make me excited for it. I also hate how so many are trying to copy Tesla’s annoying yoke steering wheel. It’s unnecessary and doesn’t need to be changed.
Just seems like it could be better. It looks nice and the interior is well appointed, but the range and lack of front trunk are some obvious shortcomings. It also seems the styling is the only thing that makes it stand out; it doesn’t do anything that the next EV doesn’t do. And the yoke? Just from watching it in action, it seems very inconsistent and unpredictable. The Tesla yoke sucks also but at least it’s predictable; you know what it’s going to do every single time. That reverse beeper too? That has to go. I thought Toyota abandoned those with the last generation Prius…
“Just seems like it could be better” That’s sums up basically any Toyota/Lexus product. Even their new cars seem outdated. The range is to low for 2023
You've gotta be kidding me an official claim of 196 miles of range so usually 60% in an actual real-life range that is around 120 miles...What a piece of trash but still pricy🤣 Whoever buy this thing better be ready to live next to a charger lmao. Yea yea Toyota no matter how you decorate it, I still know it's an RX. And it wasn't designed to become an EV. That's why you can't fit in bigger batteries
Happy Monday everyone! It’s an early start but we have another video posting at 9am EST today as well! If you guys have been waiting for an electric version of your Lexus RX, the wait is finally over! Just be sure that you don’t need to take too many long road trips or use your old Lexus or borrow one of the loaner vehicles from your dealership to do that 😅
😎 Cool Video! TBH, I'm Not sure about the 2 tone paint job, I think that a Single tone paint job would Look Better?! Stay safe 😷☘️
Sofyan I feel sorry that you fell victim to Lexus’s pathetic marketing stunts. You really wasted your time with this ev. Nobody cares about this ev and deep down inside you probably don’t either. 😂
The time you wasted with this joke could have been spent driving evs that are ACTUALLY competitive
I really hope you spoke to the representatives during the launch and told them 220/196 mile range is not only uncompetitive, but unacceptable for the price they are asking for. With Battery degradation and climate further impacting the range, this isn’t an appeal alternative to anything in this price range.
@@naveenthemachineh yes the same dude who said the bz4x is a joke cuz it doesn’t have enough power🗿🗿
Bot ngl this car is also a bit disappointing
Edit: actually 🤓 since when did you need so much range to go from home to work (unless you go on very long roadtrips) and the horsepower🗿🗿🗿
But wait,
If your going on a long road trip you can contact Lexus for a internal combustion engine vehicle. Lexus just proved electric is not even close to actually being ready, and is as they just proved, a nuisance. Low range, slow charge nuisance. Not to mention the harm to the environment they are partaking in. But don’t worry, once this brain dead administration is out of office, electric will slow right down.
Low range, slow charge, no frunk and on the low end in terms of cargo space, 60k staring price before any stealership markups and no rebates…..I don’t know why anyone would put this as a top choice compared to what’s available now in the market now.
Lexus should just continue with their hybrids
Sub 200 mile range? What were they thinking?
Then they can tell on the news, we sold 1000 worldwide it's very hard to get because they only made 1000.
@@dailyoptions7832 The beginning of a transition is always the most uncomfortable
Agreed, a bit disappointing showing by lexus.
I went to the car show and saw this car in person. The car looks amazing, especially in person. Two tone paint is gorgeous. The interior is ultra luxurious. $60k, ok, I can see that. Then I saw the range 196 miles, deal breaker! Lexus, it's 2023.
Me too. At the dealer a couple weeks ago to pickup my wife’s new Nx hybrid. I love the design, the immaculate build quality. But the 200 miles range don’t cut it. Take it to 300 miles and I will gladly pay $10k than the MYLR for the build quality itself. I couldn’t care less about supercharging since this is just a 200 miles range car, ain’t gonna take it on road trips.
This is more for inside huge megapolitan city like Jakarta (6x size of Paris with many toll roads)
Same here. Range is ridiculous for such a pricey car. Have the Rx450H hybrid which I love but the fuel consumption is a joke and spend more on petrol than any other car I’ve had. Test drove the RZ today and it’s a beautiful drive and the interior is immaculate as expected but the range is a total deal breaker and that’s a shame
It doesn’t work in America
196 mile range is tested under ideal conditions. I'd expect 150 miles in real world testing
I think the minimum for an EV should be 300 miles, anything less than that isn't worth it over a traditional gas engine.
@@ThePorscheGTO or have an EV for daily driving and a gas car for long drives if you don’t have charging stations in your path
And God forbid you drive the thing in winter. You'd probably be down to 130 miles or so 😂.
@@ThePorscheGTO My minimum is 500 miles range with at least an 80% charge within 15 minutes. In other words, I'm not buying any EV for years to come.
At this price, I couldn't imagine considering this over an EV6 or Ioniq 5... Slower charging, less powerful, arguably less feature packed, less range. Brand name only means so much.
The comparison is with a Genesis, not a Kia or Hyundai. The Koreans always offers more for less. Toyota and Lexus is more reliable. The charging is slower because they are guaranteeing 90% battery life after 10 years. Faster charging kills batteries. Toyota is really not in the EV game fully yet...this is just the start. The Koreans are way ahead but I wouldn't buy one yet.
@@Justmejbful Still, all though I could afford the GV60 I chose to buy an EV6... Again brand name is meaning less now a days and Toyota/Lexus needs to realize this. It's relative. I'm sure some people get a rise of having the luxury brand name, but to me it doesn't matter if the less expensive vehicle has all the same features, I could live without the GV60's crystal shifter and slight bump in power (especially since it takes a fairly substantial range hit).
On the topic of charge speed and how long the battery will last... Toyota/Lexus can make all the claims they want on longevity, but what really matters is the warranty. One single battery cell can go bad in the back and the whole thing needs replacing. Toyota doesn't build their own battery, they get it from Panasonic (I believe), so you have to have faith in that companys manufacturing being good enough to last the life of the car, if not you hope the manufacturer warranty covers it.
To any extent, Lexus/Toyota are selling these under competitive vehicles as beta products to consumers to see what works, breaks and fails. All brands do this, but Toyota happened to be so far behind the pack, even though they excel at hybrids that it just doesn't make sense that they would release such a poor shot into the market.
@@Justmejbfulway ahead but putting quantity over quality so yea says a lot
@NeoTechOps It's your choice what you choose to buy. The Nissan Ariya looks the best to me but I'll wait to see how the EV market plays out over the next 3 years. I would bet that Toyota commitment to quality and reliability remain intact though.
it's all about reliability, the EV6 and Ioniq 5 seem fine until actual ownership down the road. How much value will those EVs have and the reliability of the battery after the warranty runs out? Lexus has a pretty good history in regard to even their hybrid batteries that last more than 8 years and still retain good range.
Drive by wire super cool. Range definitely needs to be better. Thanks
I'm guessing the bar separating the roof panels is for the roll cage and rollover protection
I just bought my new 2023 Accord Touring and my range is just over 600 miles. This won't even pass 200. That's insane
Not defending the ridiculously low range of the Lexus, but keep in mind one gallon of gas is equal to nearly 34kwh.... so with your gas tank being almost 13 gallons = 426kwh battery vs. 71kwh.... which is just over 2 equivalent gallons...
Gasoline still matters
@@SDot-dp9xm Yeah...I'm sure people will do that math when they're anxious trying to squeeze the last 20 miles to the next charging station that may or not be working.
You are comparing apples and bananas.🤭
Honda Accord lol. Poor peasant
Key stuff (IMO):
13:20 infotainment
14:17 instrument panel and heads up display
15:48 transmission controls (digital shifter) and console
18:38 backseat legroom, headroom, accessories, etc
20:27 drive handling, 0 to 60 (4.75 avg)
25:15 steer by wire (not available yet), yolk wheel alt
27:21 Conclusion: range (too low), charge speed (meh), pricing (min $59.5k US), loaner program (30 days alt car for road trips) = could help makeup for range deficiency.
EV owners should ONLY be allowed to charge their cars using wind or solar power, otherwise it’s just pretend.
@@douglashigginbotham7040 not sure I follow. Can you elaborate?
@@jmckey Well, think about the 220v electric outlet you install in your garage to charge your EV. That electricity you’re using is being provided by many utilities powered by gas turbines.
Kinda blows away the fairy dust perception that EV’s and 500K more charging stations save the planet.
@@douglashigginbotham7040 I don't think that's the goal though, from what I have heard is coal is used to produce electricity. It was like that since the 60's and now fossil fuel is being wasted away with daily combustion engines due to exponential population growth. Is it going to "save the planet"? No probably not but it is going to put fossil fuel to serve its purpose instead of wasted away as CO2 exhaust.
A $66,000 2nd or 3rd vehicle with less than 200 miles of range. 🤣 🤣 🤣 HUGE swing and a miss from Lexus on this. They need to get their heads out of their asses. Lol
And folks out there will try to justify this foolishness 😂😂😂
How come nobody is complaining about similar competitors that have similar range that are more expensive
Oh we do complain about the competition too. EVs should be over 300 miles of range to even start to compete with ICE vehicles. People tell me that is absurd but idk why it would be if EVs are supposed to be “better” then they should be competing mileage wise. Plug in hybrids just got skipped over and that’s a shame
@@miguelvega7769 agreed. I dare a single Lexus fan girl to justify why this is exciting
Because we will quickly call them out
@@chezzyperson3339 oh they are trust me especially when things start to break, or something happens,
Model Y is a way better value at $55k before any tax credit - and 60% more range and faster charging. Why would anyone buy this?
You’ll be lucky to pull 100 miles of range out of this thing during a Canadian winter. Do better Lexus!
Thanks for the review. Lexus needs to try again. This car is miles behind the competition. Better luck next year
There won’t be a next year 😂.
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The two tone is better on here than the Crown which I think Toyota could have done better by not bringing it to the rear trunk and bumper as a starter.
Great looking car, sadly that range will hold it back. I wish you would have compared it more to other vehicles in its segment.
Love the reviews. Think it would be neat to see some of these illuminated interiors at night, for the ones you are given for an extended review.
very good Lexus EV but if you compare it with the other luxury EV´s, it´s mediocre.
I'm honestly not mad about range, I drive 22-30 miles each day just for work and will be able to charge at home no problem. My hybrid is 3 years old and it gets 220 miles (3/4 of a tank) that will last me almost 2 weeks. Lexus offering the loaner option too will be nice to avoid using the RZ and putting miles on it. My only major complaint is Lexus did not price it competitively and I agree the 2-tone looks too busy IMO. I hope Lexus brings the RZ300e to The States because I am not sold with the $60K+ on top of the lower range it gets with the change of wheels. It's decent attempt for their first EV in The States but not for the price.
196 mile range!?!? WTF am I going to do with that.
Enough range to drive back to the dealer and trade this POS for a real car.
Agreed, I love everything about this car except the range and price. Even if it was like 260 miles with the 20 inch wheels I think that’s fine, but 196 is way too little in the current ev market. Hopefully they come out with the mid cycle refresh with a larger battery and the 12.3 inch gauge cluster screen.
I own an EV and 200 miles translates to 125 at best during the winter. Utterly ridiculous.
@@phatgringo2.0 i have an ev and my 230 translates to like 130 at 80mph cruise control
@@phatgringo2.0 you lose 75 miles? That’s not normal. I lose like 20 max. What car?
Excellent build quality, superb quit, average range, 10 years guarantee, 15 years guarantee batteries, yoke steering wheel, superb. Nice addition to Lexus line up.
I love Lexus and currently owns one. But the RZ 450e is a terrible vehicle. Overpriced and will constantly give you range anxiety.
The range is below average and we don’t know how long those batteries will last because that’s their first battery electric vehicle. Don’t convince yourself😂
I believe that bar is there for structural rigidity
Less than 200miles? Range is the key.
It's a battery supply issue. Toyota would rather sell 3 cars with 200 mile range.. As opposed to 2 cars with 300.
I really like the design language of this car. But not with less than 200 miles of range. The range is below standard today already. Maybe they will tell you there is a 24 months waiting period on this car.
220 with 18 inch wheels and range can be increased with OTA updates. Just look how much more range Polestar has got out of the Polestar 2 since when it was introduced.
@@benjaminsmith2287 The battery is only 60 + something KW usable. Even they can make some improvement, I am afraid it will still be below average. Whereas most other similar price car has 70+ kw usable. So assuming they can all make similar improvement, this generation Toyota/Lexus is at least 10% less range.
And Polestar 2 is getting very exciting. They are doing a rear wheel powerful engine version with bigger batteries. Thumb's up to Polestar.
@@huckietam6746 Can't they change the buffer on it? If it has less range, so be it. Their aim is battery longevity.
Polestar is fairly quietly steadily improving their cars.Going to rear wheel drive makes a lot of sense with the 2.
@@benjaminsmith2287 Maybe they will come up with a version of a battery with higher KW. Toyota/Lexus recent design language is really exciting. I hope they can surprise us once again.
Deal car makers, PLEASE LOSE all outside shiny black panels and LOSE ALL piano black INSIDE.
Sound effect volume is adjustable from screen. Can also be set to off.
Lexus makes such hideous cars and this is no exception. Toyota Group and Subaru really dropped the ball on this one, clearly a compliant car in all forms. Buyers are better looking at other manufacturers who are better prepared for electrification. This platform is the worst effort after Mazda.
Mazda mx30 is better since it looks better and the interior is nicer looking
@@naveenthemachine I agree on both points but it only gets 100 miles which is really poor for todays market. A Chevy Bolt/EUV or Niro/Ioniq/EV6 would give you more value for your buck.
@@wand3rlu5t that I agree
At least the mx30 drives better than the RZ. But the range is worse
I saw this car at a car show today compared to the RX. The RZ was a complete let down. It was underwhelming and felt like sitting in a toyato. I've really wanted an electric lexus but lexus was too conservative with this car.
In the market for a new car and decided to go with an EV this time. Have a Lyriq preordered since May 2022 and depending on how much more it's delayed (hearing Q4 2023 or early 2025 delivery now), might just go with the RZ instead...assuming it isn't similarly delayed.
The range and lack of EV tax credit qualification hurts and definitely brings it to a trailing 2nd place compared to the Lyriq, but overall do dig basically everything else of the vehicle.
I put in a deposit in September for the RZ, my dealership is already trying to contact me that they have RZs coming in next month.
EVs are for suckers they are all going to be out of date in the next few years, these cars are beta cars
oh maan… 196 miles only? that killed it.
IMO, real world should mean something different for electric. If you only drive city, it doesn't matter as much the total range as you could theoretically charge at home every night. Real world to me for electric is when you need to drive 75-85mph (texas- Austin to Dallas 220 miles). This speed kills the range in the Lightning (different type of car, I know), and at 196 for RZ, you may even have to stop twice just to make it. Cruise control at 80mph and this may not even do 100 miles before you get range anxiety and need to charge.
Intelligent response. It all depends on how you would use the vehicle. If you want to drive around town it's okay. Anything outside of that is suicide.
agreed, this will be ideal for people living in the city or who do not travel much. Lexus is offering a "free of charge" loaner vehicle up to 30 days/year for a total of 3 years which means that the RZ will not be used or have any miles put on it.
Yep when you could just fill your gas tank and you are good to go from Houston to Dallas 250miles nonstop. Don’t buy
@@agharuokansirim4935 Not ideal, not even for city driving. I own a EV and the recommended range is for a full charge to 100 % which it's not recommended for battery life . Ideally you charge to 80% a charge so do the math how many miles of range you get. Lexus dropped the ball on EV and it's showing
First the Crown and now this.
Guy in the back look like Hardesty broters from Car Confection.
I'd rather own a Lexus RZ with a shorter range than own a Tesla. Very poor quality, battery issues, etc. Lexus/Toyota is tried and trusted with battery tech. They know what they are doing by opting for a short-range battery. They have a reputation to maintain and are not rushing to give a long-range vehicle with many problems.
Most people who own electric vehicles don't drive more than 100 miles a day.
Exactly my thought.. I definitely can trust Toyota\ Lexus quality
I like the “yoke” steering wheel or whatever they call it. It may not be practical but it’s fun
I don’t see range being an issue for most people unless you commute over 100 miles per day which is unlikely. That said, my lexus 3.5 n/a gas guzzler v6 can almost 50-70%+ that range 🤔
Neither do I. Yet why do so many commenters make it the most important feature of BEVs.
@@benjaminsmith2287 Why do you think? I have not been able to figure this out. Suddenly everyone needs 300 miles to commute to work and back lol.
@@Luminary2024 ok now i understand why people want extra range, they all the sudden need 300 miles to commute from home to work and vice versa🗿🗿
same, I commute to work about 30 miles a day I could commute to work with the RZ and not have to charge at all and have plenty to zip around town. If I decide to go on a road trip I'll just end up taking a loaner vehicle for free from Lexus and leave the RZ at home charged avoiding putting miles on it.
@@willnye9788 smart🗿🗿
220 miles is pretty much DOA
Funny to see cars bringing back suede or velour as we used to call it in a pillow back Buick Electra of around ‘80. I wonder if tufted seats are next. Honestly the interior to my eye isn’t nearly as nice as the leather clad 1997 RX300 I once owned.
It always loops back. Like bell bottoms haha
I think the range has the same compliant from everyone! I’ll pass! Only about 220 miles on a full charge?!
If you want that water to sheet off the back window, give it a coat of ceramic coating, and that will make it really slick.
hmm. I figured the Ranger least be 250mi.. that 196 bit sad these days.
The next generation of this in a few years will be worth buying. I can’t wait to see this with a 800 mile range……. It’s coming.
Disappointed in this vehicle Lexus. Especially since we know they can do better. Toyota to me is starting to get like Honda/Acura while I love both of them they give us these half baked cars when they know we know they have the finances,resources and most importantly the brand loyalty following to do crazy things.
Honda and Acura are fine. They’re much more competitive than Toyota Lexus can be. In fact they’re the only Japanese brands who can give stiff competition to Hyundai Kia genesis
@@naveenthemachine🤣🤣🤣🤣 Acura hasn’t being the same for decades they dead Lexus is way ahead of them and Toyota the sales speaks for itself the options Toyota has Honda being dead
@@andersonrodriguez8258 no it’s not. Honda Acura outclass Toyota time after time. There’s a reason the civic accord crv pilot odyssey RDX MDX are ranked much higher than the Toyota Lexus counterpart. And it really shows
Gosh. Can’t believe anyone would be interested in buying this car.
I use mine as a town car only and my range is just over 250 miles. Highway speeds must really eat into the range.
This should be 250+ mile range.
300+
My IS gets 415miles on full tank
Having all of the electric motor components high up in the engine bay is indicative that this platform is merely a stop gap measure. Hopefully Lexus gets the new electric only platform from Toyota in 2026
The problem with electric cars is the driving range, plus if you're an individual who travels a lot, how many charging stations are available
@@anonymousguy6928 you know most people just want a simple driving experience without needing apps to rely on to keep near a charge network,. Thus why gas cars still win ...
@@truckercowboyed2638 well the app was just so you could look into it without actually owning an EV. An actual EV will automatically route you through EV chargers so no worrying necessary. Plus, I feel like people forget that you won’t be needing public charging stations every day; only for road trips. On a day to day basis you’ll just charge it at home in your garage. It’ll be at 100% every morning. Most people don’t go on road trips very often so they may never need an actual charging station🤷♂️
Yeah it’s not great for non-Teslas. Tesla still wins just because the supercharging network is amazing and makes road-trips actually feasible
@@anonymousguy6928 lots of people travel for work actually like business trips or something, you do know people like truckers and trade jobs have to travel on the road, so an EV wouldn't work for all of them
@@anonymousguy6928 yes but over time the battery loses capacity..... just like your phone battery,
196 miles 😂😂😂why would ANYONE get it and why the hell would they even do that to start with
Get smaller tires for more range and the updates will bring more range. In the meantime, enjoy a refined, well built vehicle.
Thank you for doing this video
I got annoyed quite quickly with the chime when changing the display :/
This vehicle is nearly outdated before it's first year on the market. Low range,no retractable sunroof,boring interior, flimsy display. For 60 G starting better options are definitely available .I score this 6 out of ten
The fact no Roof Shade Deal Breaker for people like me who get headaches easy.
These Lexus interiors are going way downmarket. That shifter looks super cheap. What is going on with Lexus?
The range is my most concern
If range can be longer ex. 300 I would consider
i have the 2021 450h blackline F sport and love it, i hope not all will have the hood a different color b/c i find that ugly and the yolk steering wheel is something they need to give ppl options on.solid color and a round steering im in.they def need to make a F sport edtion , other then that i love it
Love this vehicle the range is low but it’s very sleek looking
Huge shout out to the Car Confections boys!
I like the one tone
You have to build an electric vehicle from the ground up. I saw the RX350 in person and it is a great vehicle. The only downside in the instrument panel. That display should be at least an OLED at its price and it should be much brighter.
Without the frunk, you would expect even more space for electronics and batteries. A minimum range of 300 miles is needed. I'm so surprised by Toyota/Lexus on this.
Hoping to see an actual real life yoke model review once it's released.
We’re hoping to get our hands on one for a week later this year!
The US testers don't have the same access to driving them on the streets as the Euro testers. The Euro testers have very favorable comments on the variable steer by wire (yoke) model.
If Toyota says 200 in range it’s more like 100. They’ve been called out by multiple companies
Toyota tends to be more conservative than most
My next car will be steer by-wire
Travel this car in the city only. Less than 200 miles is definitely useless outside of the city. Lexus/Toyota big no no
I’m really curious what redline thinks the best electric car available today is.
My Tesla smash this.
Range is very disappointing. Outdated technology already.
196 miles with the larger tires already turn me off.
I love the colour for sure!!
I "kind of" like the two tone BUT for me, being 71 years old, I would probably opt for the solid color. NOT impressed with the 200 mile range. Like that it is built in Japan. Don't like the slower charging speed. I don't think I am going to be an electric car buyer until I see at least a 300 mile range (regardless if I am using heat, AC, or nothing) within the 10 to 80% (usable) range and be able to charge at home on a level two charging station over night (in less than 9 hours). That's what I think electric cars need to do before people are going to make an electric car their ONLY CAR! And lastly, the national infrastructure for charging needs to get a LOT better.
Falling behind hardwares with fairly poor range. Blah...
Luxury Toyota/Subaru, but I like it.
I was thinking of adding the tesla model y to my IS350 but I'm definitely getting this rz instead
Wait longer for Lexus to improve their EV’s range and charging times while Tesla will still be lacking in refinement and build quality so the only thing Tesla has going for in the future is charging ability compared to all other EVs
@@chezzyperson3339 I don't need 300mile range ev. The rz's range is perfectly fine for me
Until battery deterioration takes effect down the road or cold weather conditions. Waiting seems to be the better choice (want vs need)
@@Reu_ag Good. I don't know why so many people are so hung up on range. The car does a lot of things very right IMO. I like the radiant heat feature and steer by wire.
the IS350 and the RZ are equally outdated for their segments.
Ok, I know Lexus buyers that switch to Tesla, anyway, if the RZ 450e offered better range, I think Lexus would be shocked how well it could do, but with its range, can Lexus really justify its starting price and one wonders, how it would do with a lower starting price, overall, I would rank it, behind the Tesla Model Y (better EV in every way, note I said EV), next, the Cadillac Lyriq (one of Cads best model to date and feel worth its price), following the BMW iX (a problem, you have to look at it and dark colors look better) and next the Mercedes EQE SUV (I would wait for it), this may be a stretch, but I have the RZ 450e tied with the Audi e-tron (or upcoming 2024 Q8 e-tron, the name change), crazy but both of these EVs suffer the same problem, range, as for the Genesis GV60 (it's too small, enough said), I know Audi has the Q4 e-tron (it's fine, but wasn't a fan of the VW ID.4, so), I kind of always pull for Lexus or Cadillac vs the Germans, one would ask why didn't Lexus offer quicker charging and a larger battery pack, overall, it's what I expected from the first Lexus EV, given the fact Toyoyta's not a big EV fans
I don't see here the price should have to do much with range. This is an expensive car because it drives like an RX, but actually better and has some advancements of the RX.
E-tron equivalent to the RZ?? Are you kidding?? The Etron is way better than this RZ 450e. E-tron has the 96kwh battery capable of 240 mile range vs 196 miles. The Audi also has a 270KW charge rate vs only 150KW rate for the RZ. And offers 496hp for the Etron S version vs 300hp for the RZ.
Love the two tone
Lexus has been a disappointment with their electric vehicles, was expecting better with their BZ and RZ. It's a hard NO for me.
I'd like to smoke whatever Lexus was smoking when they thought 196 miles of range was a good idea.
I am a Toyota fan. But this is ridiculous
I think the car is superb. I disagree with Sofyan about the dash needing stitching. This car has a jetcraft like dash and stitching would be out of place. I feel like the interior is like a sustainable private jet. The dash is one of the best Ii've seen because the screen doesn't look placed on or tacked on. It's integrated without it taking over the dash. I love the radiant heat. The steer by wire looks well done. The interior materials are sustainable in an EV. The acceleration is excellent, well more than adequate. I love the styling. I just think it's an excellent car. I'm not that big on range as a selling point of an EV. I look at whatever I look at with any other car(quality, refinement, drive, comfort, NVH levels, brake and steering feel, build quality and solidity) and hope it has usable range. It needs to be charged from a home. If you can't charge it from home, it's not the car for you. This is a much better car than the bZ4X which doesn't have as successful styling. I think this car's price is also right.
Thanks for the testdrive with the yoke. Exactly what I expected, the sterring by wire will easily overturn and could be hard to control how much you've turned. Maybe practice makes perfect. Maybe not.
I love Lexus, but minus the "stealership" :D
Please review the 2023 bmw x7 i40 thanks
I would rather get the Volvo xc40 recharge than this
Thanks for your work on these reviews, they've been a great resource. If the MSRP on the rz 450e was 20k lower, I think it'd be a great vehicle. There's just too much wanting for something around 65k.
What premium e-SUV is $45 K? Isn't 45K the price of a mainstream SUV the size of this car and with the power of this car?
@@benjaminsmith2287 I guess what Titus Pullo meant is that the expectation was for Lexus to leave everyone in its class way behind. The fact that came in last (and late), opens the doors for even Lexus loyalists - like myself - to look elsewhere. Had it been priced appropiately to its performance, it would be competitive. May be the reason they built so few is to let demand exceeed supply and justify the premium price.
@@manuelfigueroa9337 What's so premium about the price? How much is a GV70 electrified or Audi Q4 ETron or even the smaller Volvo XC40 Recharge (BEV)? For the size and features (close to an RX inside), and the fact that it is a BEV, it seems priced fair to me. The performance acceleration is similar to a Model Y long range, at least the 0-60. That's useable for most people. 65K just isn't what it used to be. The upper level Toyota Crowns are going to go for 55K and the Kia EV9 top spec will go over $70K. Lexus lags in range and charging speed but I don't see where it is so lacking in much else. Even the infotainment seems similar to others. Not as good as Tesla but pretty good.
@@benjaminsmith2287 Ben, thanks for pointing that out. I do agree that Audi Q4 ETron or the Volvo XC40 Recharge (BEV) are overpriced. From that perspective, the RZ can justify similar pricing. I do see the GV70 and the entire Genesis line as a class above Lexus in luxury and service and that may well be the root of my dissapointment.
@@manuelfigueroa9337 Genesis is above Lexus in service? I think that's where Lexus shines above most makes and Genesis has a ways to go. Maybe Genesis cars look more luxurious, but do they drive more luxuriously?
I expect BEVs to be more costly than ICE vehicles until battery and other components prices come down.
220 miles is the spec we “expect” from a Lexus EV? Talk about low expectations
Ether first choice. save the $1200. Charger door has the soft seal so you don't need to unplug another cover before charging.
K.I.T.T. steer by wire should be in December 2023.
Same 12oz can shelf from 4th Gen RX.
Feel like Lexus interiors look boring now
They look like Toyotas inside
This is such a bad offering from lexus… It is the opposite in spirit from the LS400…
Give it time. Lexus soon won’t be in existence anymore
Most likely lease after my Polestar 2 lease is up in 2025. By then the Lexus should be more refined and defined. Wonder how much $$ for the OTA updates and services?
Not interested in the Polestar 4? btw, unlike most here, I like this vehicle quite a lot.
I hear Polestar is coming out with the Star 4 that I am waiting for too before I move forward with the RZ
@@benjaminsmith2287 I am definitely interested in the Star 4 I am keeping my options open but I agree the RZ does have my attention. I'm just not too sold yet on the price.
8:59 at least Lexus knows rear indicator lights are amber, unlike American car companies and German car companies for their North American cars.
The question is, why such a low range? Is toyota ev tech really that far behind?
Toyota doesn't believe in big batteries and thinks they are wasteful. That said, range will improve with OTA updates.
The only thing this SUV has going for it is looks and tech. That “long range” is absolutely atrocious compared to an ICE vehicle and it’s lack of cargo space (especially a glovebox) and slow charging doesn’t make me excited for it. I also hate how so many are trying to copy Tesla’s annoying yoke steering wheel. It’s unnecessary and doesn’t need to be changed.
I think the Nissan Ariya Platinum+ e-Force AWD is a better value.
¡Gracias!
Lets be honest here the range sucks.
The whole car sucks LOL
Just seems like it could be better. It looks nice and the interior is well appointed, but the range and lack of front trunk are some obvious shortcomings. It also seems the styling is the only thing that makes it stand out; it doesn’t do anything that the next EV doesn’t do.
And the yoke? Just from watching it in action, it seems very inconsistent and unpredictable. The Tesla yoke sucks also but at least it’s predictable; you know what it’s going to do every single time.
That reverse beeper too? That has to go. I thought Toyota abandoned those with the last generation Prius…
“Just seems like it could be better” That’s sums up basically any Toyota/Lexus product. Even their new cars seem outdated. The range is to low for 2023
Only the range and charging time could be better everything else is excellent
Agreed. I think eventually toyota won’t even exist anymore
@@naveenthemachine Nah there’s no shot that Toyota will cease to exist. They’re still very much relevant.
@@M67v you never know. Toyotas way behind and they’re only going to get worse
You've gotta be kidding me an official claim of 196 miles of range so usually 60% in an actual real-life range that is around 120 miles...What a piece of trash but still pricy🤣 Whoever buy this thing better be ready to live next to a charger lmao. Yea yea Toyota no matter how you decorate it, I still know it's an RX. And it wasn't designed to become an EV. That's why you can't fit in bigger batteries
Why is Lexus wasting our time? Under 200 miles range?