With Sunny Cove and Ryzen 3000 series coming I feel like anyone out there buying HEDT from Intel right now should just hold out for a little bit longer.
@Seamon Spectre/Meltdown are not the only one. Check out new vulnerability posted today for all Intel Core CPUs called SPOILER - www.theregister.co.uk/2019/03/05/spoiler_intel_flaw/
Could be VCCIN throttling (PMAX) or different power limits at stock settings causing the abnormal results. Efficiency should not change that much, if anything it should be better at the overclocked load. IR3555 peaks at 20A output with 1.8V VCCIN, with 12 power stages that gives 20A*12 = 240A which at 1.8V is 432W. Efficiency degrades around 0.5% over the range 15-30A compared to 20A which is negligible. The latest HWInfo version lists VCCIN/Pmax throttling on Skylake-X, it would help to compare performance and power consumption at stock and overclocked settings to get a better picture of what's going on.
Also likely that the MSI Creation just wasn't run for long enough, the heatsink seems to have more mass and certainly doesnt have as much surface area as those on the Gigabyte Master and Asus Deluxe II board.
The Asus model you reviewed was the only X299 board with dual Thunderbolt 3 ports (that I found). That's a huge deal for me, as I'm not interested in heavy overclocking or gaming. I work in the Audio Industry. TB3 is the best connection for audio interfaces outside of PCIe cards, and to build a high end DAW Workstation, the Asus model was the only one that provides. Gigabyte only has dual ports on their 1151 (300 series) boards and I'm not touching those chips. Also unfortunately, AMD doesn't have TB support and USB4 is a bit far away, so AMD is a no go (Threadripper still can't compete at low sample buffer timings versus Intel). Intel might not seem like it's doing well, but in the Audio world, they're still on top performance wise when it comes to low-latency real time audio performance.
Seth Martin I bought the Deluxe 2 EXACTLY for Thunderbolt 3 since my audio interface is a UA Arrow. However, it’s also a GORGEOUS board, loaded with features. I don’t mess around with overclocking myself much so they way he ragged on this board in the review was moot. I purposely chose this over the MSI Creation for these reasons alone. I got destroyed paying for a 14-core 9940X CPU to put in this thing, but Cascade Lake is going to be HALF COST. The 10940X will be $750, so it appears enthusiast X299 will start to be attainable for many people again.
It may well be true that there's higher latency and higher transient voltage drop with doublers (it's after all another component in the power delivery system), but the main reason for having doublers has nothing to do with either of those and it has everything to do with delivering smooth low ripple power when drawing high current. Latency and transient voltage drop only matters if you are constantly shifting power draw from low to high rapidly and the voltage drop is disruptive to that. If it was a major issue, then doublers would never be used as those boards would have consistent issues whenever a core boosts. Now if it's the case that the power delivery doesn't gain any significant ripple advantage from the additional phases in high current draw scenarios, then they should say so. The fact that they choose to obfuscate the fact with "12 stage" marketing spin tends to make me think it's more to do with penny pinching than it has to do with technical reasons. If it's a 6 phase 12 stage VRM, then don't hide the phases and show us the evidence of the low ripple with 6 stages under an OC load.
The x299 Aorus Master does use one of the BEST VRM's in motherboard lineup. They are some of the most expensive components money can buy. The more pricey doesn't always mean better. Though, $5.50 a peice, the 60A ISL99227B's are used on all the best OC'ing boards like x299 and z390 eVGA DARK boards. Along with Gigabyte's own z370 and x299 Aorus Gaming 7 and 7(Pro). Even ASRock used the same exact VRM on the x299 OC FORMULA. That's why i'm surprised to see the Master not doing that great. It gets a pass and I guess that's good enough for them. The ISL69138 PWM with the ISL99227-B 60A Smart Power Stages are one of the top 3 VRM's. Now that infineon makes that 70A 95% efficiency SPS, using the new Direct16 phase TDA PWM. Though, Intersils 60A ISL99227B's are also very efficient. They also have the same amount of logic built into them. All of the currentsense and overcurrent protection along with tons of temp. management. Even though intersil uses doublers, the ISL6617A do have acurate current balancing, which should help with the thermals. Again, that's why i'm surprised with the results. But, it did get a pass. I was looking at the x299 Aorus Gaming 7 Pro because it had the same Intersil based VRM. That board was a revision 2 motherboard built for the 7980XE. Haven't seen to much on that one though, the Master gives me a pretty good idea of how it would handle the 7980XE. I was fortunate enough to snag a 7980XE for $900 a few months ago. Micro Center had 1 left and being that the 9980XE was over $1800. and basicslly the same exact 18core 36thread CPU, other than it not being soldered, i couldn't pass a deal up on a chip like that.
The price difference here is considerable, however I always enjoy MSI boards, they tend to deliver on VRM. If only their bios was as good as Asus. I have only ever bought Asus in the past, but quit after I had 3 boards die on me, 2 with no overclocks whatsoever, and just past the warranty. Guess nothing changes after this review. Great content and very informative as always, gj!
After reviewing Der8auer's video about VRM testing. If the Vcore measurements aren't taken at the back of the socket, then all the Vcore, VRM testing is not exact and flawed. For example, on the x570 ASRock Extreme4 motherboard, if you set the Vcore in BIOS to 1.250v, its actually putting out almost 1.300v. (1.297v to be exact) so just measuring the Vcore from Software and relying on software readings is flawed. He was the one to start the VRM disaster video and it the main reason everyone started to do VRM testing video's.
4:03 3 M.2 Ports (it's below the 24-Pin). The third is vertical and you have to use the included "Vertical M.2 bracket set" to screw the M.2 there, just like the original Deluxe.
I’d imagine that the backplate is still effective on the Gigabyte board. Maybe it’s a lack of airflow? But also keep in mind that it’ll trap some heat emitted by the board itself if it’s not transferred to the backplate, as the backplate would act as a barrier to the heat escaping. I don’t think it would be a huge contributing factor in terms of VRM temperatures, probably only a degree or two, but also it being spread across the backplate it does have some effectiveness. I’d say maybe cut a few more slits in the back to allow less heat buildup, about 5mm wide by a few centimeters. Nothing too crazy big, just a gap for air to flow through. As someone who understands physics to a good extent (not on a professional level or anything, but an enthusiast level?) it would at least let radiative heat that’s coming off the backplate towards the motherboard, and from the motherboard itself escape easier. At least that’s how my understanding of it works. Hell you could even stylize it to a certain extent as well, both functional and stylistic, even if you aren’t seeing the back of the motherboard. Also that fan would be more effective if the fins were oriented vertically instead of horizontally, and the fan were in the middle in a weird push pull way. It looked like it was blowing at only a handful of fins from the video. Although a very simple remedy would be to have a air duct system that forces the fan to pull from the other fins and push it though the fins it’s already blowing at. It’s not even a $5 fix, just a piece of material that’ll be able to handle heat, and decently smooth to not impede airflow. Anyways it’s like 1am here, so I’m heading to bed for the night.
Steve on the Asus board, isn't there a 3rd m.2 port that is mounted vertically to the right of the memory right above the USB 3.1? You said there was only two, is the third one only for wifi?
Although these Intel Extreme platformas are not so good of a value i have always dreamed of having that system. It looks cool with ram slots on both sides ngl
Hi, I watch your videos regularly, a few days ago I purchase core i7 9800x but I am still confusing the board which one is best Asus prime x299 Delux ii or MSI meg x299 creation? My main focus on deluxe ii but it will not available before this month end(I form India) or might next month the first week. And the seller going to reduce the price of MSI so that I can purchase that. I don't know about too much MSI and as I told basic specific in deluxe ii like build TB3/DP and 5GHz ethernet port ATX this feature I like most. but I want to know which one you prefer.
5:25 No. Thinking thermals has anything to do with why more phases is better is missing the point. It's not about thermals at all. It's about ripple. How clean is the power going into the motherboard and how clean is it going out into the CPU. With more phases you put less strain on the PSU and CPU and you may achieve a better overclock due to less cases of the power delivery being uneven. In terms of thermals and the power throughput side of the power delivery capability a low phase count motherboard can easily be better then a high phase count one. But a high phase count one will have less ripple most of the time. You can compensate for that to some degree with a higher swiching frequency on motherboards where that is configurable. But even then more phases are generally speaking preferable. That said, you'll start to reach diminishing returns at higher phase counts.
What was the memory setup on this? I'm running quad channel right now with a 7800x @4.7ghz and 3600mhz on the memory. The MSI Gamning pro carbon handels it great but I wonder what the power draw difference is between dual and quad channel is.
Not sure if you have been corrected. but the Asus Deluxe ii Mother board has "3" M.2 ports. not two as you stated. So no need to pay $90 like you said.
Can U tell me please where i can download the actual AURA Sodtware for the Deluxe II MB...??? Unfortunately On the Asus Homepage is no Support for this Software, nothing...((? Please help... Many Thanks
X299 Aorus Master is just showing how overkill the Z390 Elite/Pro/Ultra boards are. Same VRM, 50% more current and 1.8-2V instead of 1.3-1.4V, still didn't cook itself alive
It should. Atleast thats what AMD has been promising their customers. So, what motherboard do you have? The manufacturer needs to bring out a BIOS update for 3000 to work, but it shouldnt be a problem :)
mEg: Enthusiast - Most expensive, most features (generally HEDT) mPg: Performance - Fastest (generally mainstream) mAg: Arsenal - "essentials" (fewer features but reasonably fast) facebook.com/MSIGamingUSA/posts/meg-mpg-mag-what-do-these-abbreviations-mean-josh-gives-you-the-quick-rundown-on/10158475407448084/
Why does MSI insist on coloring everything red? Their mobo looks like it only has USB 2 and is missing proper audio jacks. 🤦🏼♂️ Function over form for something that's going to be facing a wall 99% of the time!
@@matejgyurkovsky8008 Not realy 500 dollars including vat and shipping. Thats a normal price for it in switzerland. Ans its 200 tiems better than the Aorus Z390 Master wanna be cool with 12 plus 2 phases..
These motherboards cost more than my system (excluding GPU). I guess if you know you will use all those threads it might be worth it. Me I just play some games and watch some youtube! Still watching the video though, I like a bit of PC porn!!
I dunno about all this VRM heatsink talk. My old i5 2500k is less efficient than these modern chips and ran at 4.9Ghz. The VRM heatsinks for that motherboard were non existant.
You must consider the core difference between your CPU and the one that these boards are meant for. It is not the only differentiating factor but it is a big one. Your CPU has just 4 cores hence it is easier to achieve higher clock speeds. Also also, as Steve mentioned, none of these motherboards failed the test, it is just that some were running a bit hot :)
mEg: Enthusiast - Most expensive, most features (generally HEDT) mPg: Performance - Fastest (generally mainstream) mAg: Arsenal - "essentials" (fewer features but reasonably fast) facebook.com/MSIGamingUSA/posts/meg-mpg-mag-what-do-these-abbreviations-mean-josh-gives-you-the-quick-rundown-on/10158475407448084/
02:03 The USB naming scheme got ya. great Video as always. greetings from Germany
Yep, I'm the latest victim 😂
The Prime Deluxe II actually has 3 M.2 slots, one is near the right ram slots and it’s upstanding. There’s a mount kit in the box.
Another Awesome comparo Steve, but where's the Price to VRM Temp comparison chart
I bought the MSI Creation and a 9900x. It’s a beast of a motherboard. Hope to have it for years to come.
Nice review yet again Steve and well done MSI with two excellent top end motherboard with their MEG Creations!
Just got my MSI X299 Creation in the mail today...doing a Corsair 1000D build with a RTX 2080 ti for Phase 1 of my build...CANT WAIT
I was out on a walk tonight wondering where the HWU video was for today, just got inside and it’s arrived lol
With Sunny Cove and Ryzen 3000 series coming I feel like anyone out there buying HEDT from Intel right now should just hold out for a little bit longer.
@Seamon Spectre/Meltdown are not the only one. Check out new vulnerability posted today for all Intel Core CPUs called SPOILER - www.theregister.co.uk/2019/03/05/spoiler_intel_flaw/
Too late, already bought a 2950x
USB 2.1 Gen 2x2 V2 - the latest in USB 3.2 technology
Could be VCCIN throttling (PMAX) or different power limits at stock settings causing the abnormal results. Efficiency should not change that much, if anything it should be better at the overclocked load. IR3555 peaks at 20A output with 1.8V VCCIN, with 12 power stages that gives 20A*12 = 240A which at 1.8V is 432W. Efficiency degrades around 0.5% over the range 15-30A compared to 20A which is negligible. The latest HWInfo version lists VCCIN/Pmax throttling on Skylake-X, it would help to compare performance and power consumption at stock and overclocked settings to get a better picture of what's going on.
Also likely that the MSI Creation just wasn't run for long enough, the heatsink seems to have more mass and certainly doesnt have as much surface area as those on the Gigabyte Master and Asus Deluxe II board.
The Asus model you reviewed was the only X299 board with dual Thunderbolt 3 ports (that I found). That's a huge deal for me, as I'm not interested in heavy overclocking or gaming. I work in the Audio Industry. TB3 is the best connection for audio interfaces outside of PCIe cards, and to build a high end DAW Workstation, the Asus model was the only one that provides. Gigabyte only has dual ports on their 1151 (300 series) boards and I'm not touching those chips.
Also unfortunately, AMD doesn't have TB support and USB4 is a bit far away, so AMD is a no go (Threadripper still can't compete at low sample buffer timings versus Intel).
Intel might not seem like it's doing well, but in the Audio world, they're still on top performance wise when it comes to low-latency real time audio performance.
Seth Martin I bought the Deluxe 2 EXACTLY for Thunderbolt 3 since my audio interface is a UA Arrow. However, it’s also a GORGEOUS board, loaded with features. I don’t mess around with overclocking myself much so they way he ragged on this board in the review was moot. I purposely chose this over the MSI Creation for these reasons alone.
I got destroyed paying for a 14-core 9940X CPU to put in this thing, but Cascade Lake is going to be HALF COST. The 10940X will be $750, so it appears enthusiast X299 will start to be attainable for many people again.
It may well be true that there's higher latency and higher transient voltage drop with doublers (it's after all another component in the power delivery system), but the main reason for having doublers has nothing to do with either of those and it has everything to do with delivering smooth low ripple power when drawing high current. Latency and transient voltage drop only matters if you are constantly shifting power draw from low to high rapidly and the voltage drop is disruptive to that. If it was a major issue, then doublers would never be used as those boards would have consistent issues whenever a core boosts.
Now if it's the case that the power delivery doesn't gain any significant ripple advantage from the additional phases in high current draw scenarios, then they should say so. The fact that they choose to obfuscate the fact with "12 stage" marketing spin tends to make me think it's more to do with penny pinching than it has to do with technical reasons. If it's a 6 phase 12 stage VRM, then don't hide the phases and show us the evidence of the low ripple with 6 stages under an OC load.
The x299 Aorus Master does use one of the BEST VRM's in motherboard lineup. They are some of the most expensive components money can buy.
The more pricey doesn't always mean better. Though, $5.50 a peice, the 60A ISL99227B's are used on all the best OC'ing boards like x299 and z390 eVGA DARK boards. Along with Gigabyte's own z370 and x299 Aorus Gaming 7 and 7(Pro). Even ASRock used the same exact VRM on the x299 OC FORMULA. That's why i'm surprised to see the Master not doing that great. It gets a pass and I guess that's good enough for them. The ISL69138 PWM with the ISL99227-B 60A Smart Power Stages are one of the top 3 VRM's.
Now that infineon makes that 70A 95% efficiency SPS, using the new Direct16 phase TDA PWM.
Though, Intersils 60A ISL99227B's are also very efficient. They also have the same amount of logic built into them. All of the currentsense and overcurrent protection along with tons of temp. management. Even though intersil uses doublers, the ISL6617A do have acurate current balancing, which should help with the thermals. Again, that's why i'm surprised with the results. But, it did get a pass.
I was looking at the x299 Aorus Gaming 7 Pro because it had the same Intersil based VRM. That board was a revision 2 motherboard built for the 7980XE.
Haven't seen to much on that one though, the Master gives me a pretty good idea of how it would handle the 7980XE. I was fortunate enough to snag a 7980XE for $900 a few months ago. Micro Center had 1 left and being that the 9980XE was over $1800. and basicslly the same exact 18core 36thread CPU, other than it not being soldered, i couldn't pass a deal up on a chip like that.
That MSI sure is a beast of mobo, thanks for the re visit.
great vid, clear and concise; your mobo comparos are always useful.
The price difference here is considerable, however I always enjoy MSI boards, they tend to deliver on VRM. If only their bios was as good as Asus. I have only ever bought Asus in the past, but quit after I had 3 boards die on me, 2 with no overclocks whatsoever, and just past the warranty. Guess nothing changes after this review. Great content and very informative as always, gj!
Seems like the only reason to buy X299 is AVX512. Other than that X399 offers much more.
After reviewing Der8auer's video about VRM testing. If the Vcore measurements aren't taken at the back of the socket, then all the Vcore, VRM testing is not exact and flawed. For example, on the x570 ASRock Extreme4 motherboard, if you set the Vcore in BIOS to 1.250v, its actually putting out almost 1.300v. (1.297v to be exact) so just measuring the Vcore from Software and relying on software readings is flawed. He was the one to start the VRM disaster video and it the main reason everyone started to do VRM testing video's.
4:03 3 M.2 Ports (it's below the 24-Pin). The third is vertical and you have to use the included "Vertical M.2 bracket set" to screw the M.2 there, just like the original Deluxe.
Those motherboards are stunning!
great video as always, hope this video gets more love over time.
Sadly it didn't 🤣
I'm early and it's 1080p. Good.
I’d imagine that the backplate is still effective on the Gigabyte board. Maybe it’s a lack of airflow? But also keep in mind that it’ll trap some heat emitted by the board itself if it’s not transferred to the backplate, as the backplate would act as a barrier to the heat escaping. I don’t think it would be a huge contributing factor in terms of VRM temperatures, probably only a degree or two, but also it being spread across the backplate it does have some effectiveness. I’d say maybe cut a few more slits in the back to allow less heat buildup, about 5mm wide by a few centimeters. Nothing too crazy big, just a gap for air to flow through. As someone who understands physics to a good extent (not on a professional level or anything, but an enthusiast level?) it would at least let radiative heat that’s coming off the backplate towards the motherboard, and from the motherboard itself escape easier. At least that’s how my understanding of it works. Hell you could even stylize it to a certain extent as well, both functional and stylistic, even if you aren’t seeing the back of the motherboard. Also that fan would be more effective if the fins were oriented vertically instead of horizontally, and the fan were in the middle in a weird push pull way. It looked like it was blowing at only a handful of fins from the video. Although a very simple remedy would be to have a air duct system that forces the fan to pull from the other fins and push it though the fins it’s already blowing at. It’s not even a $5 fix, just a piece of material that’ll be able to handle heat, and decently smooth to not impede airflow. Anyways it’s like 1am here, so I’m heading to bed for the night.
Steve on the Asus board, isn't there a 3rd m.2 port that is mounted vertically to the right of the memory right above the USB 3.1? You said there was only two, is the third one only for wifi?
Although these Intel Extreme platformas are not so good of a value i have always dreamed of having that system. It looks cool with ram slots on both sides ngl
I like that you use blender for your test! That's what I want to use my next build for.
Hi,
I watch your videos regularly, a few days ago I purchase core i7 9800x but I am still confusing the board which one is best Asus prime x299 Delux ii or MSI meg x299 creation?
My main focus on deluxe ii but it will not available before this month end(I form India) or might next month the first week. And the seller going to reduce the price of MSI so that I can purchase that.
I don't know about too much MSI and as I told basic specific in deluxe ii like build TB3/DP and 5GHz ethernet port ATX this feature I like most.
but I want to know which one you prefer.
5:25
No.
Thinking thermals has anything to do with why more phases is better is missing the point.
It's not about thermals at all.
It's about ripple.
How clean is the power going into the motherboard and how clean is it going out into the CPU.
With more phases you put less strain on the PSU and CPU and you may achieve a better overclock due to less cases of the power delivery being uneven.
In terms of thermals and the power throughput side of the power delivery capability a low phase count motherboard can easily be better then a high phase count one.
But a high phase count one will have less ripple most of the time.
You can compensate for that to some degree with a higher swiching frequency on motherboards where that is configurable.
But even then more phases are generally speaking preferable.
That said, you'll start to reach diminishing returns at higher phase counts.
What was the memory setup on this? I'm running quad channel right now with a 7800x @4.7ghz and 3600mhz on the memory. The MSI Gamning pro carbon handels it great but I wonder what the power draw difference is between dual and quad channel is.
Looks like the Asus Board has 3 M.2 Slots too, the third one is a vertical one located at the right edge of the board.
This review of motherboards is all the facts I want to hear except; I won't be getting HEDT parts to build with.
Why are the X299 MBs for the Intel CPUs cost 'more' than the Threadripper X399 MBs? What are the 'quality' differences?
Not sure if you have been corrected. but the Asus Deluxe ii Mother board has "3" M.2 ports. not two as you stated. So no need to pay $90 like you said.
I remember Shakespeare. Feels familiar
What was the watercooling setup for the OC results ?
How do they compare to the x299 Dark from EVGA?
Top 2 fan intake or ex? You should say that.
Can U tell me please where i can download the actual AURA Sodtware for the Deluxe II MB...???
Unfortunately On the Asus Homepage is no Support for this Software, nothing...((?
Please help...
Many Thanks
It’s simple. Just get the one with more R G B
X299 Aorus Master is just showing how overkill the Z390 Elite/Pro/Ultra boards are. Same VRM, 50% more current and 1.8-2V instead of 1.3-1.4V, still didn't cook itself alive
The Asus Deluxe-II has 3 m.2 ports, one isn't cooled, it sticks out of the board near the 24 pin like, well... something
ah - the good ol legacy systems, what is next ? lga 1366 x58?
No mention for the Display Port In ?
It's a VRM temp test.
Steve's path to glory!
Step one: become the benchmark king
Step two: destroy Nvidia
Step three: claim to be the master of the universe 💪🏻
Anything on if my b350 Will be able to run ryzen 3000 series cpu ?
It should. Atleast thats what AMD has been promising their customers. So, what motherboard do you have? The manufacturer needs to bring out a BIOS update for 3000 to work, but it shouldnt be a problem :)
I got cascade lake on my X299.
los mejores vrms, y capacitores los tiene gigabyte
almost like the MSI wasn't getting the same voltage
How long will this latest INTEL "refresh" will last? expect its dead to intel already!
I miss the old intro (this one) but you guys abandoned it for the new one.
Asus result is clear the heat spreaders are not able to get the heat away.
Does "Meg" stand for something?
MSI Extreme Gaming
mEg: Enthusiast - Most expensive, most features (generally HEDT)
mPg: Performance - Fastest (generally mainstream)
mAg: Arsenal - "essentials" (fewer features but reasonably fast)
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Shut up MEG
lg 34gk950f review please
My rule of thumb: am I buying Mainboard? Buy only from asrock or asus.
Lovely gigabyte
My Asus X99 A-II also had shit vrm and vrm cooling, thats why i didnt buy any asus Boards since then.
My whole PC was 600€..same as MEG motherboard 🤣
Why does MSI insist on coloring everything red? Their mobo looks like it only has USB 2 and is missing proper audio jacks. 🤦🏼♂️ Function over form for something that's going to be facing a wall 99% of the time!
94C? ITS GONNA BLOW monkaGIGA
Meg vs rampage pls
Man, that's a lot of *M O T H E R B A R D*
I seriously ask myself how Intel will continue......AMD has Threadripper and normal Processors....how will intel continue.....
WTF the Asus is 500 dollars....i got the Maximus XI Formula for 500 all water cooled....
@@matejgyurkovsky8008 Not realy 500 dollars including vat and shipping. Thats a normal price for it in switzerland. Ans its 200 tiems better than the Aorus Z390 Master wanna be cool with 12 plus 2 phases..
asus rly starts to slack. price up, quality down. msi really is gunning for the top - and gigabyte has to recover from the deep fall.
Those thermal pads are kind of crap
These motherboards cost more than my system (excluding GPU). I guess if you know you will use all those threads it might be worth it. Me I just play some games and watch some youtube! Still watching the video though, I like a bit of PC porn!!
X299 platform is such a joke compared to what AMD has to offer...
Couldn't agree more and with the 3000 series as well as new Threadrippers coming going to be a good time in PC land!
MSI FTW ! Asus is overpriced junk gigabyte is good bang for the buck
I dunno about all this VRM heatsink talk. My old i5 2500k is less efficient than these modern chips and ran at 4.9Ghz. The VRM heatsinks for that motherboard were non existant.
You must consider the core difference between your CPU and the one that these boards are meant for. It is not the only differentiating factor but it is a big one. Your CPU has just 4 cores hence it is easier to achieve higher clock speeds. Also also, as Steve mentioned, none of these motherboards failed the test, it is just that some were running a bit hot :)
Asus x299 Croatian
X299 with four gpu slots? What a joke
Wtf is a meg though?
mEg: Enthusiast - Most expensive, most features (generally HEDT)
mPg: Performance - Fastest (generally mainstream)
mAg: Arsenal - "essentials" (fewer features but reasonably fast)
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Yoooo, i'm early
hedt platform will die soon.