FACEOFF: Suno v3 and Sonauto
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
- Here it is. A side by side, “apples to apples” comparison between Suno v3 and Sonauto AI music generators.
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In my last video there were a lot of comments giving Sonauto a hard time, saying it was nowhere near Suno, etc. and I simply couldn’t disagree more, and I’m here to show you why.
NO AI music generation is perfect, and they all can produce some real YUCK, but both of these services are capable of creating amazing music, and if you’re TRULY interested in a fair comparison, I invite you to put on a set of headphones, and enjoy.
My position is that Sonauto is a real competitor - not that it’s better - but in some cases, I feel it definitely IS - Just as Suno is better than Sonauto at some.
I’m just asking folks not to be so reactionary to new tech that goes up against the “big guys / favorites.”
You may not love every piece we showcase, or every style, but the point is to show you that Sonauto is extremely capable, and deserves your attention if you’d like to create AI music with no subscription fees - for now.
00:00 Introduction to AI Music Generators: SUNO vs. Sonato
00:10 Correcting Misconceptions and Showcasing Sonato
00:32 Side-by-Side Comparison: SUNO and Sonato
01:11 Exploring SUNO's Music Generation with Dad Jokes
04:55 Sonato's Unique Approach to Music Generation
06:44 Diving Deeper into Music Comparisons
15:33 Exploring Different Music Styles and Outputs
23:21 Concluding Thoughts and Invitation to Explore
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Suno still sounds like it wipes the floor with Sonauto. It doesn't sound like I could have made my album with Sonatuo tbh.
Yeah, I totally agree with you. I tried it out. It’s horrible. I’m gonna stick with Suno. It’s way better. I think this guy either owns this new app or he has a steak in it or something but it sucks.
I'm actually most impressed with sonautos ability to separate stems FREE (bye bye paid service, if you got one). To any song. You can upload your own. Make a song in Suno and use sonauto. And actually sonautos ability to add laughter is cool. It's definitely not on the same level as Suno considering the music, but there really are some cool stuff in there. Competition is good, it makes other companies to fight for consumers, us.
@@AiandMusic too bad it's not good at instrumentals or sound effects either. Suno is fantastic for both of those and as a game dev it's what I use most. I'll give it props for having laughter, as none of the others have that (though I'm betting Suno can be prompted for it too in some way). So it's definitely got something others don't, but it's lacking everywhere else. The voices are not good either, scratchy sounding and just very synthetic sounding.
@@AiandMusic the quality is embarrassing. I don’t care if it could stem or not, if the quality sucks. No one‘s gonna use that I would rather pay subscription like suno for quality than free crap that’s the bottom line
@@rehdogg "Stake"... but point taken.
I'm a big Suno fan boy, like most of seemnto be, but competition is good! Sonauto has a feature that Suno doesn't: stem separation. That's a big deal, if you don't have FL Studio or similar with this feature. Quality isn't the dame as Suno, it definitely "understands" music better, how it flows etc. BUT I actually like how sonauto added laughing track. That could be used to make something else than music though. I dunno, I wouldn't diss a free service. But if I would rate these two right services now, it would be something like sonauto 5 - Suno 9. Suno community is also great. And the team listens to people. Hope this is also the same for sonauto.
I don't know.. Suno Ai have their own charm.
Just for the record, I put in "Stand Up Comedy" as the style over at Suno as well, and it DID generate a laugh track on one of them. :) In fact, it had the audience reciting the jokes along with the comedian. Impressive. Both services are fun!
Sound quality for voice is mostly way clearer on sonauto compared to suno, but the songs aren't as good most of the time on sonauto.
Reading comments, as a long-time songwriter/producer, it's pretty disgusting if people are actually using this stuff to RELEASE! I guess they have no real creativity, talent or self-worth... + missing out on a lot of fun and accomplishment. These AI tools can be useful - wish they could be kept out of the hands of idiots!
@@keyscook If people listening to the AI songs enjoy it? I've heard a few AI songs made by others that I actually like listening.
Have you tested it yourself? For me, it's pretty fun to create stuff with AI music gen, to feed in your own lyrics or the one made with LLMs, and I've also been making music with FL studio for a decade and still do, there is fun to be had doing both AI and "legacy" music making.
Have you considered that maybe you are the one missing the joy in using these tools? There is only one way to find out, suno and the likes of it gives you free credit every day.
Using AI and enjoying it doesn't prevent you from enjoying other music making techniques.
@@joannot6706 No problem - hope people have fun / joy with these tools. I do utilize LLMs for various reasons and find them to be fantastic in many ways. I will give these audio tools a try when time allows. I simply hope that folks are transparent in their attributions. Please, have a great time & Cheers from Seattle!
@BobDoyleMedia great channel. Subscribed! How did you create these little animated pictures. They fit very well to the music!
Tried Sonauto and I like the feelings the "singers" communicates. Suno "singers" feels a little bit mainstream old AM radio on low level inside the car, that I also indeed like. So both fills a purpose. If, its all about attention and how you want your "track" to grab the listener. Sonauto wins that battle, IMHO. Listening to 100 tracks of each, Suno tracks kind of fades into the misty oblivion, after a while. While some Sonotracks might be remembered for the out-of-the-box originality.
Have you tried converting the suno voices to your own voice using musicfy? I cant get good results mainly because the poor quality of the separated vocals in Suno because I get the same poor results when trying to convert to their professional voices.
I'm loving your chanel Bob. Greeting from Brazil!
Another sonauto update may arrive sometime this weekend that will 'have customization features unlike ever before'. Excited!
Interesting, and good to know! I''ll be on the lookout.
I can see the potential usefulness for many projects. 👍
If it supplied the midi for the tracks it would be awesome. I've download the stems for one and it sounds like they use something like RipX to separate the stem out, so they show the same artifacts (but worse than ripx) which is odd since they've created them and I would have thought the tracks would be additive to produce the song and so the stems would be perfect. Still workable though.
HI Bob, do you think 10 generated songs at once upon subscription (suno) is good enough?
What we need is MORE control to rearrange things. Would really like one of these services to partner with Ace studios or a similar DAW program. I've used splitters and mastering at Bandlab for Suno tracks, and it comes out pretty good, but editing needs to be easier
That would also be a big step forward. Making "blocks" of audio which could be rearranged, shortened or lengthened would be great.
yeah! Or a plugin for your DAW where it takes a jamming/audio as part of the prompt or text and autopopulates your DAW!
Yes the first two examples with the laugh track and the solo vocalist, are better done with Sonauto, and maybe more emotional songs that pause for emphasis.
I think I'm going to stick with Suno v3, but I'm happy that if I can't get a particular song to work in Suno, I'll be more than happy to plop it into Sonauto and tweak it further.
Add "live", "crowd" etc in style in Suno to get crowd reaction, claps or even sing-a-long
never thought about, but yeh nice. looking for those prompt helps all the way, suno dont really have any information about what to use to make your song more focused or specific. thank you
When playing with Suno I create about 12 runs (used to be over 20 for Suno v2, and often over 50 for v1), pick the top three, then get another person's opinion on what is the best of the three. Do this for both services then compare the between the services.
I'm not sure anyone doesn't see the potential for Sonauto, but when you are holding it up to Suno v3 and talk like they are the same quality it just doesn't seem like a genuine/fair comparison. I think a better comparison would be Sonauto vs Suno v1 because I don't think it's even quite where Suno v2 was. I've been playing with Sonauto based on your recommendation and some of it's issues in my opinion are that the music generation itself isn't quite there but bigger issues are that vocally the singing struggles with the verses of the song sounding more like sing talking that struggles with matching the rhythm and notes of the song and then all of a sudden gets on point when the chorus hits. The music and vocal are also off with the vocals dominating the music. I can definitely see the potential, there are things I can hear in the choruses where they seem to be experimenting with vocal "tricks" such as vibrato. Definitely worth keeping an eye on as they develop and get better.(which I'm guessing is what you're trying to express here more so than that this is on equal footing with Suno v3.) It's still early days for them and this is the worst Sonauto will ever be.
My whole point is that you can create great stuff with both tools, and in some cases, the types of things that Sonauto creates may suit your particular goal at that time. Other times it may be the other way around. It’s great that we have choices!
I feel that they both different from each other, very interesting the emotion that came out of Suoauto
What about these short animations over his head? Where is it generated?
Fidelity currently seems to be an issue with both platforms, but I can hear generally a clearer clarity with Sunato vocals. That said, I find Suno better atm for realising my prompts. Judt wish theys sort out that underwater Mp3 low res sound quality
Hi Bob - your channel popped-up while checking out unrelated stuff. Great job exploring these AI tools which I haven't messed with... As a songwriter, pretty amazing technology... You got my subscription for your hard work. Cheers from Seattle !🍻
Thanks so much!
personally i find suno to add too much "choirs" effect and often cant give me what i look for. Having so much fun with sonauto, wich is fitting perfectly my particular niche requests, and shines with old style music, like italian pop/punk/opera. Suno always gives me too much modern sound. I really REALLY wish to have sonauto to use offline and train my own music.. some one should democratize this tool
In the hopes that the AI algorythm finds these words, "We need an audio upres solution for Suno AI". An Upres that makes compressed audio into studio quality clean in just one click. Make it so...
How do you get gifs for the thumbnail in Suno? I only have static images.
You’re not missing anything. My editor adds those animations in after the fact. Just to keep things visually interesting.
@@BobDoyleMedia Ahhh... thanks.
i can kind of see what you mean there. each has something that its good at . good to use both and split out the audio to make what you want.
I like them both! Thanks for sharing the video. Love it.
just a comment from someone whos not musically inclined. your prompts is what I was most interested in.
So everyone, how does Replay stack up against either Suno or Sonauto, or is Replay a different kind of audio/voice/music mixing app?
Replay is entirely different, and I would absolutely not recommend it. Replay is a voice changing app that promotes using real people's voices without their permission. I personally find it unethical, but even ignoring that, all it does is change voices, it doesn't generate music.
(Replay is the reason RUclips is flooded with videos labeled "AI song" / "AI cover" that are 99% human-made and 1% voice-changed AI, and it's skewing public perception of what actual AI music is, like with Suno Chirp.)
I am preparing an album release with suno, and I tried all the 15 main songs that I have plus some side projects since seeing the previous video on sonauto, I will agree that sonauto is more creative, but this can go either ways, and mostly it goes quite wild with the ideas, if you are letting the ai dictate the style that's ok, but for example the songs that I have in my album are what I had in mind from years ago, and I managed to really land the style I wanted, sonauto pretty much does whatever it wants, and, one thing for sure, I have many songs that where perfectly mixed and streaming ready from suno, and this who had issues where easy to adjust, but I don't hear that quality with sunoauto across the board, of course this is the worst that this tech will be, but for now I'm sticking with suno
I’m with this same Impression as well . Well said !
You should definately have a chapter that is titled "Lets just get into it!" 👌
That last Indy female song in suno was sublime. Can you post it?
Suno often has artifacts which show up as hiss or an extra layer of shrillness, especially when it comes to electric guitar distortion. I still like it though and have used it for many projects.
Pay attention to your time on all parts and keep generating until you get the right sound you want before you go on to the next part 2 , part 3, ect.. and remember to tell Ai to [End Song] at the right time in the song to save you time in post production
You should check the function of using the virtual keyboard in Sonauto to compose melodies and you can generate variations of it
You just click on new and you will see a popup window that lets you choose between keyboard and New project!
Take care! God bless you Bob!
That feature does not work. Once you finish, and "upload" what you played on their keyboard, the site just gets stuck forever replying "Created Melody". :(
Honestly, if you ask me, just judging by what is in this video, most of the time it’s really not that close. I will give it a try for myself at some point though.
I've noticed that Sonauto makes the vocals too loud compared to the instraments. I STILL think Suno is ahead of Sonauto. I've used both. Also, can you make longer songs with Sonauto - paste them together to make longer songs like in Suno? I would like to turn the vocals down and increase the volume in the instrumentals in Sonauto. Any suggestions on how I could do this? Thanks for the video. My vote is stll Suno for the win!
Well, I've been playing with Sonauto for a few hours now, and it seems like a completely random crap shoot. I can put in something like "Big Band" check NO LYRICS, and carefully select all the other parameters and it insists on doing whatever it feels like doing, like adding vocals, and I even had song generated that were hard rock songs instead of Jazz Quartet etc
Sonauto can give some good results (and it's free) with the right prompting. As with most things, it's a case of seeing what works, and because it is free, you do have the luxury of testing. having said that I have one or two Suno songs that (legitimately) give me a tingle up the spine when the singer's voice rises to match the change in the song. I'm tempted to add a link, but not sure it's the right thing to do. :) I love Suno, but will be messing with Sonauto a lot more... especially with the text-to-speech like the "standup" you did in the video.
Bob, I love your channel, but I think you've got this one wrong. Has anybody figured out how to generate a duet?
I’m not sure what’s “wrong.” This video is stating an opinion that Sonauto deserves attention and has the capability of producing good stuff. I never said it was better, or the best. I stand by my opinion. Just to be clear because, although, I never said it, people seem to think that these videos are trying to say that Sonauto is better. I never even suggested that.
ive done gif animations for years..why cant these play seamlessly..character moves..then moves back..thern on and on...or should i watch the whole video.
I was Successful in getting Suno to do spoken word Comedy a few weeks ago with laugh tracks but the vocals would have some kind of unwanted reverb distortion
It’s important to have some competition, it can push Suno AI to bring us more tools and also get better… I made a musical with Suno AI, it was amazing the results, but it wasn’t easy and I had to keep some bugs because the rest was too perfect to lose
When that happens, the bugs, I usually try to regenerate the song just two or three seconds before the glitch, and having the next part done, and then is just matter of splicing the best generation with the rest of the song, even audacity works for this
Sonauto is a great resource for the big picture of ideas, especially lyrics, thanks for this info :)
It was like a mix of Avril evanescence and Taylor Swift from sunauto
What is the most famous AI music so far?
Not quite where SUNO is at the moment, but definitely one to watch. SUNO in it's infant stage was not even close to what it is today.
And the functionalities are exactly what I desperately want in SUNO.
But at this stage, it is not what I personally look for. And given how fast everything is moving right now, by the time it gets there, SUNO will most likely be three steps ahead again.
Still, fascinating to see new music AIs pop up. And thank you for your detailed showcase and for shining light on the not-so-visible AI tools.
What would really be nice if we got something like this that was open source so others could contribute to it & maybe have the quality of it improve faster while also being able to use it on your own computer if you've got the specs to run it. It's still early days for music & other AI related things, but it'll just continue to get better from here.
@@wlb277 Couldn't agree more. AI is still in it's infant stage, and look at what it already is capable of.
I assume that over time, music AI will take the same path as LLMs and Image AIs. The big models will be build by those who have the resources and money to train them. Smaller models will bleed through into open source, and a lot of the innovation will come from the hive mind.
Right now Suno is the King without opposition. A few steps lower is Udio, and then this Sonauto like in the basement. At least in the field of rock songs, which is the music I usually listen to (and try to generate with AI).
I was recently introduced to you via "the algorithm" (assuming) and I'm glad your channel popped up in my feed. I also agree with your points. And like you knew that Sonauto exceeded Suno, instantly. So After you introduced us to Sonauto, I had it create a power ballad in the style of a renowned female pop singer Barbra Streisand. I was amazed by the AI's ability to capture her iconic vocal techniques, such as phrasing, octave jumps, and dynamic range.
Why I chose Barbra, she is widely regarded as one of the greatest female pop vocalists of the modern era. During her prime years in the 1960s-1970s, she achieved unparalleled success and acclaim. Few artists have matched the unique combination of vocal prowess, versatility, and prestigious accolades that she amassed, including becoming the youngest person to achieve the coveted EGOT (Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, Tony) status. (Ponder that for a moment, at the age most artist are trying to cultivate any type of following and a sustainable fan base for a long career. She had not only had projects in every aspect of the entertainment industry but won the most coveted awards right out the gate! Extraordinary.)
According to Billboard and other major music publications, Streisand has set numerous historic records over the course of her legendary career. She has had the most #1 singles (11) and top 10 hits (34) on the Billboard Hot 100 chart of any female artist, trailing only The Beatles. On the Billboard 200 album chart, she has the most #1 albums (11) and top 10 albums (53) by a female artist, again behind only The Beatles and Jay-Z in the overall rankings.
Streisand is also one of only two artists, along with Frank Sinatra, to have recorded #1 albums in six consecutive decades. And with over 150 million records sold worldwide, she is considered one of the best-selling music artists of all time.
While her voice has naturally evolved over time, as is the case for any long-lasting career, her influence and legacy continue to inspire today's artists. The AI's impressive recreation of her signature sound is a testament to her enduring impact on the industry.
that felt like the ai seinfeld channel on twitch
I think for ALL of these music generation systems, they need to start training them on multi-track data so it can start to "understand" how tracks really fit together. And offering the "stems", or individual instruments and vocal tracks for their users would be a MAJOR step forward for music production.
Yes!
The one that does stems will be a huge leap!!
@@blurtam188 Well, Sonauto does stems, but they're not great.
@@BobDoyleMedia It appears to be using the Demucs engine - which really just uses some EQ tricks to separate vocals from a track (as well as Bass, Drums and everything else/Other). It's not bad for what it is but it's not nearly the same thing as having actual clean stems for all of the instruments in the arrangement.
Agree with the others on this - if someone is able to work it out, it'll be a game changer for those of us who want to get their creations into a DAW to properly edit.
Ps. Thanks Bob, your recent videos helped me discover Suno! As an amateur music producer, I've had a lot of fun playing around with it - The quality is not really there yet to be meaningfully useful imo but if the tech improves at the same rate as AI imagery, it's going to be exciting to see where we are in 12 months time.
No need to use any other DAW program then BandLab for full editing of a proper Enhancement capabilities for a good demo if not a pro quality version of any Ai generated songs . Check my page for examples
I make a lot of "Accordion Metal" and "Flute Metal" instrumentals with Suno and it nails it about 75% of the time (and about 50% of that 75% is actually interesting and very good music). I have tried the same with Sonauto, and it just gives me regular metal music... I couldn't get it to make a "new genre".
Quite amazing. I was amazed by Suno but Sonauto topped that in terms of features. There is still a fizziness on the acapellas, artifacts of audio manipulation.
I still not sign in, so my opinion is before the sign in.
I still have conserns.
The site of sonauto is a totally blank page, there are no ANY information about who they are, what they are, what is the purpose of the tool, how can users use the tool, etc... For example what about the copyright, and other legal stuffs, how they handle my data, etc... How can I utilize the result of this tool? (I mean legally, not technically)
Maybe these information reveal when I sign in, but without these information will never sign in :)
If you or anyone has information or link about these, please share.
Suno is amazing but this v3 layering vocals most of the time, and then many times I get a great song that ends up with degraded vocals over time has me not too excited these days over Suno. Now Sonauto I believe has amazing potential if the just fix that inpanting to get it to work better and they tweak the vocals so they don't sound so simplistic and generic at times, but what i really want to say is (sound so white). I think it has the potential to absolutely climb right over Suno into the first spot and it's FREE and we keep 100 of the commercial use. I mean come on!
I read yesterday on Discord that at some point we'll be able to upload music to have the Ai use it as a template of the style of music that we want it to build. If this model ultimately ends up doing all of this and doing it well, Suno then will be history.
Say what? Damn that would be awesome 👏 if executed properly ! Hopefully no they will tell Ai never to use the word (Chain) and (Shadow) as I think those are the most used words and I find them The most the most offensive, because it literally cost people money in time to get the same song lines in 1000 different genres generations. Please friend me and keep me in the loop about this Ai tec update you heard . I would appreciate it . TY
I actually created a live concert with a crowd singing to the song and cheering with suno lol so idk what this is about
What is a prestation?
@@robj144 it's a show lol
@@IAenCavale A prestation is a show? Still don't get it.
Suno is still my favorite, and it does spit out duds every so often but that's just the way it is.
Sunauto doesn't sound as crisp and the pronunciations are a little off. It still bears watching because you get a whooping 4 clips.
Suno is my candy in a candy store.
Also, those wake up songs are fighting words! 😂
Hey man, I'm toned up. I couldn't play a good talk. You gave it to me. I don't understand the complex of it or a piano on all that **** because I never went to music class. I went to prison at the age of 15 but I've been doing. but I've been doing some **** with Sono and I like it.
ty for video
Hell! Music has gone down hill in a hurry. The AI is cool though.
Still feels like Sunato only has about 15% of the song snippet that is impressive, the rest still sounds low quality and robotic. So would need to do a lot of manual editing to get a full song of all (or even mostly) good parts. Currently a lot less work required for Suno, will still keep an eye on Sunato but for now it is not my "go to" music generation system.
Suno is almost perfect for me... Almost... My only problem is that the limits of credits. Technically you can only generate 2 songs just by only 50 Credits.
If only The Free users can still generate music, but once you run out of credits either it be similar to Bing Image which will take Lots of minutes or Before playing your musix there will be an ad
Now with Sonauto you can control the track and the AI singer can sing all your songs instead of different AI voices. Just Have a video on my channel
V3 of Suno has been plagued with a nasty habit of forcing layered vocals, regardless of user prompts. Sound quality diminished considerably from V2 & V3 Alpha.
It is odd seeing so many people bash Sonauto. I suspect they also were not there from v0 with Suno as well, when it was in a worse condition than Sonauto in terms of both ability and quality. 🤷♂️
Yes, suno was worse than sonauto is now when I first used it.
I"I have the impression that Suno produces better songs, despite having lower versatility compared to Sunauto.
However, all these tools are rapidly evolving and continue to improve and add features.
Soon they will be able to allow total control of songs.
We will only be tasked with writing excellent lyrics and selecting and combining the best music parts.
What a machine will never possess is musical taste and the desire to create.
Agreed
No my Final Ai productions will be Recorded with my actual voice in studio and any other instruments needed for mastering mix . With using these Ai productions as musical Reference tracks . Making it more of a original type of collaboration with Ai then mostly Ai song
Dear Bob,
Good day! I wanted to take a moment to express my appreciation for your RUclips channel. Your positive presentation and unique perspective have truly captivated me. I find your ability to discuss both the positives and negatives of various topics to be candid, transparent, and incredibly useful.
Your channel is a haven of creativity, constantly inspiring me to think outside the box. I must say, I am thoroughly entertained by the "skeletons" piece you recently shared. It's thought-provoking and pushes the boundaries of what can be created. And that jokes session? Wow! It had me laughing out loud!
I also wanted to mention how fascinated I am by your past posts about getting layers and working on each one. It's like sculpting, where skill is needed to create something truly remarkable. I see it as a form of transcribing, but with the added elements of curating and polishing the final product. The fact that the sonic achievements can vary depending on the artist's resources is simply wonderful.
I apologize if I'm rattling on, but I just wanted to send my sincere appreciation and gratitude for your work on this channel. It's truly inspiring, and I'm grateful to be able to experience your content. Keep up the fantastic work!
Warm regards
Thank you so much for taking the time to share this! Really means a lot!
The multiple voice thing is an issue with V3. Strangely, it didn't do anything like that with the VDay test/toy. Hopefully, they'll fix that soon, because it ruins a lot of generations.
As a musician of over half a century I find the instrumentals in SUNO superior to Sonauto. But, I'm a keyboardist so what's most important to me is naturally the instrumentals vs the vocals. For someone like myself that will always be the case and completely opposite for a vocalist.
I don't think it'd be completely opposite for a vocalist. To me, Sonauto's vocals are hit-and-miss at best, and are often just rife with model attention failures.
Sonauto prefer to classic vibes. SUNO is modern for future musical prompt..
With all due respect because i like your channel, i can't help but think you are being paid by them or something because you seem to be talking badly about suno while being amazed at another ai music generator that isnt even better than suno V2. Like come on now
I never said anything bad about Suno. I absolutely love it like everybody does. My position is not that one is better than the other, but that they are both great tools, and I absolutely am not getting paid by either one of them. The only thing I said about Suno was pointing out compression issues with some of the tracks, but not all of them. I made it a special point to say that both services create excellent results. But also sometimes spit out duds.
Suno is better at coming up with song ideas but sunauto vocals is much much clearer and cleaner imho
clearer but way more robotic (to be honest v2-v3 alpha was autotuned mess v3 full release seems better)
Sonauto is most likely finetuned for certain gengres. It's very good at rock and metal.
Best. Video. Ending. Ever! 😂👏
Udio Ai is the next level
Suno and Sonauto is like sauron and saruman.
Menudo vicio con las AI hahaha
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Why would solo spoken word over a jazz quartet make a laugh track in sonauto. You obviously didnt feed it the same prompt.
The 'unique voice' you mention at 22:38 sounds like it was 100% lifted from Iris DeMent and that's what depresses me most about all of AI... It sucks the soul out of artists whatever the medium. (If you don't know Iris Dement you should at least give her a listen since you're benefitting from her back catalogue.)
Sonauto has pitential. but its at Suno 1 level right now. I think they will get there. Music is past the singers right now. Suno is one iteration away from prime time. i beleive suno ai 4 will blow us away and match quality of high fidelity music.
I agree that it's just around the corner, and that Suno is likely to get there first. But time will certainly tell!
I also have to disagree. I was not impressed with Sonauto especially with instrumentals. The sound quality was murky and there were actual vocals on 2 of the three songs. I'll stick with Suno for now.
I had to check the date for April Fools.
Im no stan to any one provider and was genuinely here to see what other programs offered. The voices in most of these samples make my ears bleed and then you say 'its so good!'.
We have different tastes, and thats okay. And yes, Suno's esrly versions were terrible too and i expext this to be a viable competitor after a few iterations.
A lot of people share your opinion. I think that my brain is just tuned in to hear potential. And when I react with "this is so good", I do mean it. That doesn't mean it's the best thing ever, or ready for professional release. it means I'm inspired in the moment by what I'm hearing the tech do. It's all really quite miraculous, and I appreciate aspects of both platforms and while Suno is clearly more polished, I think that statements like "make my ears bleed" is just a bit exaggerative. I stand by my opinions that both have merit, and both are capable of "making ears bleed" at times.
Suno is more pop and sonauto is more indie, for showing to the normies song tha i wrote suno, for the future sonauto will be more unique
Sonauto is great.
I think it's a bit strange to compare two music generators and start with spoken word, followed by acapalla. You're grading fish on their ability to fly here. And even within those tests you showed, I much prefer Suno's acapella generation to Sonauto's. And honestly, same with the others you showed.
I get that you really like Sonauto more, and that's great. But between your examples, and my own tests with it (which are rife with attention failures, significantly more often than Suno, in addition to being less appealing sonically), I'm just not impressed. It *is* the closest competitor to Suno I've ever seen, which is cool, but it's just not there yet.
I never said I like Sonauto more. I never stated a preference between the two. My only point is that both services have merit.
Sonauto does not really compare to v3 Suno, I done extensive comparisons between the two and found it's not even close. Sonauto fails to understand half the prompts that Suno aces every time. In addition, Sonauto is very choppy still and has a lot more problems with longer generations. It's a decent alternative that's entirely free sure....but it's not even close in capabilities. It will get there in time I'm sure, but it has a long way to go.
should be called SonatuoComedy would sell better
Suno is amazing!!! Secret is just choose favourites and mix them together, by using continue this song option. Just chose one variation with nice beginning, mix with other one with nice solo... Etc. and of course use modifiers - intro, outro, pre-chorus, build, drop etc.
Btw, i make song in asian language, it's tonal and give much better result, many time i make song in some tonal language, and after get nice music, change a ktrics
The vocals in Sunato are so poor, I see where its going and when they get to V3 they will be amazing, but right now I see no competition. Its Just Gemini vs GPT, they are similar but in different classes entirely.
I just tried SonAuto. It was horrible! The music is bad, the timing was off, and it didn’t follow instructions.
Thats exactly my experience. It may be due to my prompts as i used the same selfmade lyrics i used in Suno but... as you said, terrible timing and very unimaginative composition. TBH from my testing i have no idea where those positive critics come from. Ill give it one more try this weekend as I am still totally surprised how so much ppl in this thread do consider using it...
Sonauto has some cool editing you can do and split, but everything else its bad
Stem separation of suno and sonauto tracks is terrible apart from drums and vocals even if you use a paid service.
I think suno has higher chances per generation to make a good song than sunauto.
Please Suno is better Music and melody wise. Soneauto is more to comical side of things. Thanks.
why is this guy still comparing the two? I fail to understand! nothing is at the level of Suno AI at this moment and their working v4, this is the chatgpt moment for Suno ai
alll it takes iin sunato to upgrade to a new version, then bam, so i am glad he's reviewing them
I have to say after playing around with Sonauto. It’s like child’s play compared to Suno. It’s a waste of my time. Yes, it does have things that suno don’t have but it’s just not there. The quality is horrible. I don’t know if you can use anything you create their commercially. Its just a horrible product. I’m wondering the way how your promoting it if you have a steak in the company?
Yeah..the Sonauto hype here borderlined delusion.
Very interesting video, but I'm sorry dude. I don't get it. I can see you really enjoying what you are hearing, but to me the trickery is obvious and unsatisfying.
Maybe I've just heard and seen too much AI crap, but all of this stuff is immediately fake sounding,
Some clues are in the way the audio is processed, for sure. I'm using my reference headphones, and I'm hearing tons of artefacts and ringing. But aside from that there are other clues, which are lie in the autotuning, and in the lack of vocal consistency. The singer can sound different on different lines, enunciates in a very artificial way, and the AI misses loads of expressive moments that singers would intuitively get.
Aside from the singing, there's an approximation in the instrumental arrangement that is only superficially correct. Instruments appear and disappear in a most unnatural and obviously fake way. Guitars don't sound like any guitar I've heard, and the brass parts are straight lifts from old Glen Miller songs that immediately give away the "training" source, but the AI seems happy to mix and match tones from different eras, a bit like sampling I suppose?
The arrangements are weird also. What you obviously enjoyed as a lift at 14:00 is a great example. The little fall before the rise is absolutely "right" for the moment, but it is obtained of course again from the training material. But the lift itself shows only a surface level appreciation of what the real thing would do - the AI adds white noise to simulate overdriven guitars; there's no bass impact to speak of; all the "instruments" mash into one another. I'm very aware that what I'm hearing is like a bad photocopy, both sonically and musically.
I think what's happening here is that AI song making is so new that most people aren't hearing the tell-tales. But give it a few months and I think you may look back at this video and cringe at how easily you were impressed. The tech is only going to get better (especially in terms of fidelity) and maybe eventually it will be much more convincing.
But right now this all sounds like musical smoke and mirrors to me.
[I'm not trying to spoil your enjoyment, I'm just trying to let you understand that there's a whole level of listening that exposes the AI tricks.]
I really don’t see how anyone can think Sonauto is even comparable to Suno. The vocals are out of tune and off beat, which is understandable, since the songs have no beat or rhythm. Time to move on from Sonauto. If you can’t hear how bad it is… you need to stay far away from it- because it’s going to ruin your channel, which nobody wants. Keep up the reviews, but for the love of god, stay far away from Sonauto!
I happen to completely disagree, BUT all of this is 100% subjective anyway, as there is truly no accounting for taste. People like what they like for the reasons they like it. Telling them that what they like sucks, is all about YOUR opinion, which is totally valid, but not Universal.
Not sure if we're listening to the same thing but Sonauto sounds absolutely horrid. You should listen to some of the Suno stuff I've created
Exactly my thoughts.
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Sonauto voices sound terrible
Suno is way better, Sonauto has timing issues and sounds way more " Vocodery" The vocals are a little more crisp, but not as musical and pleasant as Suno, Sonauto reminds me of Vocaloid