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Steve's Small Engine Saloon hey 👋 Steve your videos are awesome 😎. Can you tell me what happens when you run too much oil. What does it do to the piston
The same thing that happens when you loan your new McCullough chain to your brother in law. You give him the mixed gas full gallon and extra oil additive with explicit use instructions. Six months later and he returns it with the engine seized and a story that says I lent it to him that way. He's an ex brother in law for multiple reasons.
Funny, I let a neighbor use my Toro 2 stroke snowblower. His driveway is 80’ long. He returned it asking what kind of fuel it used. Being a mechanical engineer, he used unmixed. It’s still working! Lucky me!
I did this in my younger days. Weed wacker wasn’t running good but returned to greatness after putting in straight gas. About 15 mins later it died and so did my pride. Live and learn.
Honestly, it lasted longer than I thought. If I ever come across a 2 stroke with no compression, I'll know why. I was sure that the connecting rod was going to seize. Great video! Thanks Steve.
Reminds me of my younger years when I was changing oil on my lawnmower the first time but needed a funnel to refill. I left to buy a small funnel. My wife, bless her heart, decided to help me and mow the lawn in my absence. She burnt the engine. What can I say? She meant well. Still married 44 years later. Love of my life.
Awesome demonstration. I get numerous tools in that customers bring to me with the same issue. So now I can show them exactly why I stress the importance of mixing the fuel to keep the tool lubricated.
My uncle in law put mixed gas in his lawnmower....When it started to smoke, he shut it off and swore it was wrecked. My dad offered to take it off his hands because he was gonna junk it. Dad gave it to me. That was 20 years ago. Thing still runs like a top! Obviously this video is the opposite of that, but I thought I'd share the story anyway. Bottoms up Steve!
Hhmmm... Had a neighbor that had some storm/tree damage awhile back. Over the course of an afternoon, he went through three rental chainsaws and never did finish the job. Claimed the tree was "really sappy". Bet this explains what really happened...lol.
I have a Stihl BR600 backpack blower that I bought used off craigslist from a lawn care service for a steal because it needed a little work and the guy I bought it from said that supposedly one of their guys accidentally refilled it once with straight gas but soon realized the mistake. My guess would be that there must have still been some mixed fuel in the tank when the guy put straight gas in it so it wasn't running completely dry on oil, I just adjusted the carb and it runs great, has ever since. I haven't checked the condition of the engine or anything but it still has compression and runs good. Thanks for the informative video Steve!
I thought this "mix" business was nonsense for the longest time. Never knew it was this big of a deal. You may have saved some of my gear if i had run out of oil/fuel mix...thanks!
I ran a homelite trimmer on straight gas for a couple years. I did not know any better. My yard was real small so I only ran it for about 6 mins each time. I now use 2 cycle oil in the fuel. So far I have replaced the primer bulb and the carb. That trimmer is now 20 yrs old and still running with a few scratches on the piston. Best trimmer ever!!
I had a weed eater for 12 yrs that ran Schaeffer’s premix. Everything else wore out but the motor. I did same thing dumped fuel and it has now ran a tank of straight gas wide open and still runs. I think I will pull it back out and run another tank. That oil works
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That was interesting. I recall back when I was 17 years old, I got a weed eater that was a TMC kpw 23. In the owners manual TMC warned that running straight fuel with no oil would cause the engine to seize. It's obviously different with each two stroke engine. It can result in either seizure or the piston gets scored and the ring or rings can get damaged and get stuck leading to no compression. In any case the engine would have to be rebuilt.
My blower has been running weak, even after tuning it up and I decided this season to just go ahead and run straight STP multipurpose treatment and Berryman B12 Chemtool. They are both a similar product to Seafoam. It's been 5 months, I use it every 3-4 days and it is running better than it ever has.
Loved the video. The John Deere chainsaw sitting on the counter behind you was exactly like one I bought around 1980-1982. It used Echo parts and as the paint chipped in places it was echo orange under the yellow paint.
I followed Steve’s advice and run 40:1 on everything our company owns. Nothing has seized since. We lost a lot of equipment at 50:1. Thank you Steve! Lifetime subscriber here!
Yup that’s what I do. Screw that tree hugger EPA nonsense. A little more is fine n dandy while too little just makes you go buy more expensive needless.y complicated equipment.
If you run 40:1, you might have to adjust the carb because 40:1 runs LEANER than 50:1. But I use Stihl Ultra HP at 40:1 in EVERYTHING I own. 50:1 is probably OK, but I'm not chancing it. And I always have a nice golden brown spark plug, never any carbon buildup. These people talking about 100:1 because they use some fancy oil (usually Amsoil) are risking it in my humble opinion. I use 40:1, adjust the carb, never get smoke, never any buildup and the spark plug always looks PERFECTLY golden/carmel color.
Steve, I was riding my old Yamaha DT360 single cylinder two stroke at full throttle along a busy highway many years ago. The DT360 had an oil tank and an injection metering system that was cable operated alongside the separate throttle cable. Unbeknownst to me, the oil injection cable had broken at some point so only enough oil for low rpms was being injected. As soon as I backed off the throttle, the engine seized immediately locking up the back wheel sending me into a crazy skid. I had the presence of mind to pull in the clutch thus releasing the back wheel and regained control. After coasting to the side of the road and clearing out my shorts, I actually managed to get it started and limped into work. Bored-out to 4th oversize + piston and a new cable and it ran like new again! I kept an eye on the injection cable after that!
@@robertrayhelm6075. This must have been a trend. My wife ruined my $350 leaf blower 3 years ago too…. I just pulled it out of the shed to see if it was worth fixing…. Guess not.
Newagetojo, I think it's mostly just a brand name thing. I know the high dollar equipment is generally made of higher quality materials and some cheaper ones are really lower quality materials but if ANYTHING is taken care of and has regular maintenance done it can last a long time. People are always going to poo poo stuff, some of it is from actual experience but much of it is from following popular opinion.
Steve, first of all Thanks. Thanks to you I fix my weed eater Bolens, that didn't rav up, I did what you suggested about those screws and fix it. Then I bought a ryobi blower that didn't start. I dissasembled it appart, put some carb starter, blow it through the carb, put it together, then turn the screws 1.25 as you suggested, but didn't start, keep going, about 15', play around with those screws, more carb straight into the carb, and boom, when it goes about to start, I play more with screws and kaboom, work perfect. It turned out that it need 2 completely turns the high and the low screws. And now finally today I started worked in an old weed eater husqvarna, that has the piston stuck. I played around a lot of carb inside, I actually got a hammer and a metal point, and hammer that metal axel until it started to turn. Then hooked up my drill and give it several turns, I busted the screw but I put another one. that problem was fixed, I don't know if I am going to have luck bring it back to life, but I did learn a lot of it. I need to replace the fuel lines, and the purge bulb, tomorrow I will buy another one, but the carb looks ok, after cleaning of course, but the fuel lines were completely gummy, green gummy, I have to put another one. I let you know how it turn out. But a big THANKS TO YOU, you have a soul of a TEACHER. PLEASE KEEP IT UP. I always thought I have no skills for motors, but now with YOU I am starting to have a little faith in myself. THANKS AGAIN.
@@StevesSmallEngineSaloon How about a video on doing the opposite - running 2 stroke fuel thru a 4 stroke engine ? I've done it a few times before. If you run 2 stroke thru a 4 stroke engine on a regular basis will it do any damage ?
I really enjoy your videos. They are no bull and informative. I own a small engine repair here in the Napa Valley Calif and have many times yanked a frozen recoil.This is what Utube is supposed to be Thanks Steve
My dad did this without knowing not to use regular gas to our leaf blower last week. The string pulley is stuck now and wont pull. He said it died like this one did. Is there any way to fix it? Or would it be a lost cause and better buy a new one?
Bought a new Makita 2 stroke grass trimmer, and the books says that use 50:1 mix only with some fancy high quality oil they specified, but for all other oils it must be 25: 1, it says. I used cheap 2 stroke oil from super market mixed 25:1, and it runs great.
I have a STHIL back pack blower and I have ran a gallon of straight gas through mine before with no problems that I know of. I did it because I had no mix and a lot of work to do. I have since run mixed gas through and after several years it is still going strong.
No you need to call still and tell them about that they'll probably give you a free blower for life but I'm sure that you added it to other oil and that was a lesser ratio but it still was adequate to lubricate it
@@vickilund7206 I had TRIED to contact STHL via email and also on their FB page But they had never responded to either. Besides I have absolutely NO DOUBT they would not GIVE me anything, heck, they cant even give me the time of day to respond to contacts.
Great demo, we had someone at our golf club (volunteer) so this to our Stihl leaf blower. Here is a question for you, is it worth doing a motor job on a small engine like this or is the engine and piece of equipment not worth keeping other than for parts?
I had the melting ring thing happen to a 2 stroke motorcycle when i had an air leak in the crankcase. It was a 500cc Yamaha. That was a fun bike. I didn't know an engine would even last 9 minutes without the oil. You have great videos.
Reminds me when I bought my echo blower. I maintain all my own equipment and was concerned about what I would need to adjust the special screws it had. I asked the guy at the counter and he said "bring it to us. If you get caught adjusting your carb you will get a 30K fine from the EPA." Nice try. Because of his lying condescending BS I bought it from somewhere else and with a screwdriver and a grinder I made an adjustment tool. Within a couple years I noticed they went out of business probably from treating too many customers the same way. Just thought I would share a fun story.
Steve? How important is it to get that exact 40:1 or 50:1 ratio (depending on what your machine calls for)? When I make up a mixture I always err on the side of adding a bit more oil. Other than creating a bit more smoke, is this a bad practice? I'm not talking about doubling up the oil. I talking about using say 2.8ish oz per gallon instead of the 2.6 they call for. My thought for this is that some of the oil is always coated to the sides of the dispenser after you pour it in. So you are never really 100% emptying the dispenser.
If you get more oil in your mix - 32:1 instead of 40:1, for example) - your exhast might be a little smokier. Unless you go WAY overboard on the oil, all you'll get is some extra smoke.
I have tools that require different mix ratios. Since I don't want to have a bunch of different blends laying around I just mix one matching the requirements of the tool that calls for the most oil. No problems after several years of doing this.
@@duradim1 I agree. In my case, all my 2-strokes are 50:1. But I always err of the side of more oil. Those containers where you squeeze the amount of oil into the calibrated dispenser, I always go slightly over the 2.6 oz mark. I figure if you fill it to exactly 2.6, not all the oil gets poured out. Some left over is always coated on the side, or a little bit sits in the dispenser after you pour it out.
I’ve all Sthil products and they are over 12 yrs old , with daily use , not 1 has caused me any issues in all that time . I fill a plastic cup (135ml) with 2 stroke oil and pour into a gallon fuel can .
I ran an ole 440 Rotax SkiDoo motor on straight gas for just over 6 minutes before it failed. Didn't get the damage you got(looks more like a lean burn). I put new bearings in and the motor worked fine
Big thumbs up there bud! Damnedest thing happen to me once. My helper ran straight fuel in my Husqvarna handheld blower for about 20 minutes before I caught him. Before that the thing had been running kind of rough, after I caught him and yelled at him I noticed the thing was running faster and better. I assumed the blower was toast, I checked the bore and piston and it seemed fine. The damn thing runs better now than it ever has. I do all my own tune-up and maintenance on my Motors, so I know this doesn't make any sense. Maybe the straight fuel somehow cleaned up a clogged jet at high temperature? It will forever bug me.
i have run plain gas thru a couple old saws i had that werent running so good i thought they were done but after that they run fine so i have seen it b4 but i do not know what the plain gas fixed either lol
Old oil and gas can get gummy so I assume the straight gas helped break it down inside the 2 stroke that's just my guess my oldest sister gave me a two stroke weed whacker that had 2 cycle mix in that sat for several years or longer it was seized shut by the oil and gas that turned into varnish it was like glue we wound up scrapping it out has scrap metal i could not unsezie it!
Same thing happened to me yesterday with my Husquvarna blower. But I didn't catch it. It stopped running by I have compression. Plus it ran for 30 minutes before it quit.
Great video, I did that at my brothers house, he wanted me to help do his yard. So he was inside house , I was trying to start his blower it needed 2 stroke oil and gas mixed, I never owned a blower. I live in apartment with no lawn. So I grabbed the gas container he had filled it up a little more then half way, started it up took me awhile to start, but I used to mow grass at my house when I was a kid, so I remember pushing that little button, if I had trouble starting mower a couple time and it would start right up. But like I said never had a 2 stroke leaf blower, growing up or ever. So I blew his leaves for about 10 minutes And When it broke down, I said to him I told you don't by second hand shit from people he got it on craigslist, but when he asked me was it already filled I said yeah, I didn't put anything in it, he likes his beer so he had no idea, that it wasn't.
Damn, never knew I had to put oil in the gas. The guys at Home Depot always look at me weird when I bring back my edger and explain to them it only ran for 10 minutes.
A manager at HF Tools said the air compressor never gets filled with oil and some dick brings it back under warranty, the reason oil-free is what they sell now (lol)
Steve, I was told by a Sthil dealer, after he replaced my carb on my Sthil blower it would not rev,, the reason the carb went bad was I used unleaded gas from the pump. He told me to use fuel with no ethanol in it. which is available, tho expensive, it is mainly used for rec vehicles. What say you? I am using it in all my small engines. Thank You
canned pre-mix fuel is a good alternative to pump gas, but Stihl says their products are engineered to run on up to 10% ethanol fuel. my nearest ethanol-free source is 90 octane, and $4.99/gal right now.
If you're using the equipment everyday, fuel containing ethanol is fine. It's not going to sit in the carb long enough to do damage. If it's for a homeowner and will set a week or more between uses, I would recommend finding ethanol-free gas. Where I live, ethanol free is around $3 a gallon. It's what I run in my weedeaters, chainsaw, ATV, and lawn mower.
RICARDO MACODO Hi Ricardo I've been using lead free petrol in my Sthil Leaf Blower and Hedge Cutters for the last 17 years .... never a problem . I use them commercially However, I'm in The UK ..... Fuel might be different here. God Bless
I run these small 2 strokes, Zenoah, in my hobby RC's. Modified can run 20,000+ rpms. I run 20 to 25 /1 ratio. At these rpm's the extra oil is needed not just as a lubricant, but the extra oil particles can act as a coolant. So much so, in boats which have water cooling, you have to run the water lines to warm the water first through the water cooled exhaust flange, then to the cylinder. Or the engine wont reach optimum temperature to run correctly. Great engines to tune and toy with.
Yes I wanted to thank you for all your videos you really get in-depth till you break it down and make it very easy and a you explain it clearly there's a lot of people out there that don't know a lot of things good job and God bless you
Sad a life was lost for the sake of a great lesson. Once I caught the wife with the wrong gas can I just cringed. I'm going to forward this to her. Thanks Steve.
I already accidentally put straight gas in a leaf blower at my grandparents place. My mom and I were doing some lawn work at my grandparents place and I would leaf blow the grass off the driveway. I ran out of fuel in the leaf blower and asked my mom if there was any mixed fuel. She said there is fuel in the gas can. But she did not realized it was not mixed and neather did I. So I filled the gas tank all the way to the top and leaf blowed for about a half tank of fuel and it still ran fine. At the time my grandpop passed away and someone bought the house. So we took the leaf blower home. My dad was shocked to see unmixed gas in the leaf blower tank. When he told me about it I did a compression test and it was at 120 psi of pressure. I was surprised the thing didn't blow up then. I still use it today and it still runs great. And I always use mixed fuel in it. ☺
Wow. Almost 9 minutes. It lasted a lot longer than I thought it would. Almost a shame you had to kill it but thanks for the demonstration. I had an old man tell me that when it came to mixing fuel, "A smoking 2 cycle is a happy 2 cycle".
Thanks Steve, I was considering buying a guys Husqvarna chainsaw and blower ghat he ran unmixed gas in. Now I know what to look for. See you in the next one.
I know ryobi and homelite are under TTI but like damn they didnt even try to differentiate the machine. All is exactly the same as my homelite just the plastics are different colors and obviously the badging
😄 as I have that same blower, it hurt seeing you destroy that thing but thanks for the information. Using only premixed fuel my cylinder is still pretty on the inside.
In your opinion Steve, how long did it have before it was rendered unusable? If you were to catch your mistake after a minute or so, would too much damage already be done?
not an expert on these types of engines, but i would guess the most scoring of the piston and the cylinder wall is being done when you actually hear the rpm slowly start to drop. from then it gets worse quickly. Oils have gotten much better in the recent decades so the lubricating film on the moving parts will protect them for a little while if you catch your mistake soon.
In the 1990's people just mixed engine oil until it had a clear smoke. When too rich it would leave oil sludge on the outside of the exhaust, blacken the spark plug early.
Steve I laugh so hard when I see you put that gas in there. Got some memories back years ago I was moving and lots thing happening well to say .I pick up my gas can fill my Pollan chainsaw and to the woods I went well that thing cut 2 pcs and you know the rest lol
Good oil and fuel matters. I have an old, well maintained 80's Stihl 028 Super WB that has had carb rebuilds, oil pump replacements, new lines, engine gaskets / seals etc and still on the original cylinder and piston with only 1 ring change. Two strokes live a LONG time when you take care of them.
The Stihl mix and the Aspen fuels are great for a unit you don't start for months at a time. They also don't have as strong an exhaust smell, if that bothers you.
Just about all canned premixed fuels have fuel stabilizers in them. It will last 4 years in an unopened can and roughly 2 after opening. Straight gasoline with no stabilizers starts to degrade after 3 months and with 2 cycle oil mixed in,it can get really nasty. Think Vaseline. Even if you dump the tank,the residual fuel can really goof things up. From the filter,fuel lines,carburetor and rings. If you are not using a fuel stabilizer,at least do this at the end of the season. I prefer Deep Creep penetrating oil,but Mavel Mystery oil will do fine. Dump the tank. Fill your tank with about a half cup of straight gas and add about a four second spray of Deep Creep or about a tablespoon of Marvel Mystery oil. Start the engine. No need to rev it up and let it idle for two 2 minutes and turn it off. Dump the tank for storag. I have a 25 year old Tanaka that was retired from the grounds crew at Opryland theme park. Still works wonderful with this regimen. 22 year old Snapper. Same regimen.
@@paulbillings1791 canned one (or from pump it's like 80cnt cheaper from pump than canned ones) "small engine fuels" Are here 100% parafin/alkylate . It's totally different than normal gasoline!
Hi Steve ,good video,i have that model but its about 12+ years.Still runs great,,i always used 40 or50mix,as long as it has some oil,it should last a least 2 years.for the price they great blowers,i think.keep the videos coming buddy.
Can you please show a video on breathers on mowers brush cutters and chainsaws , for this happened with loads of machines they start but under load they start to die ,it's only because the breather is blocked or gone hard in the filler cap ,I've helped heaps of people out, my mate took his mower and brush cutter to an expert and they over look that problem every time
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We are forever being told "you must do this/you must not do that but Steve actually shows WHY!
I certainly try...
Idiots, yuppies,suburban white collar professionals.........you know what I mean🤓
Knowing the WHY helps me remember - most of us remember better when we understand WHY.
I swear this sounds like that Civic that passes my house at all hours of the night
Lol you ain't the only one man, rn its down cause of a flat tire, thank goodness! I thought someone was weed eating at 12 midnight 😂
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The same thing that happens when you loan your new McCullough chain to your brother in law. You give him the mixed gas full gallon and extra oil additive with explicit use instructions. Six months later and he returns it with the engine seized and a story that says I lent it to him that way. He's an ex brother in law for multiple reasons.
Chainsaws shouldn't be lent out. Torches are right behind them in that category.
A friend of mine once told me "never loan something to someone that you wouldn't just give them outright; if you get it back, that's a bonus".
Thought the rod would let go .
Funny, I let a neighbor use my Toro 2 stroke snowblower. His driveway is 80’ long. He returned it asking what kind of fuel it used.
Being a mechanical engineer, he used unmixed.
It’s still working!
Lucky me!
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I did this in my younger days. Weed wacker wasn’t running good but returned to greatness after putting in straight gas. About 15 mins later it died and so did my pride. Live and learn.
Honestly, it lasted longer than I thought. If I ever come across a 2 stroke with no compression, I'll know why. I was sure that the connecting rod was going to seize. Great video! Thanks Steve.
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Reminds me of my younger years when I was changing oil on my lawnmower the first time but needed a funnel to refill. I left to buy a small funnel. My wife, bless her heart, decided to help me and mow the lawn in my absence. She burnt the engine. What can I say? She meant well. Still married 44 years later. Love of my life.
Awesome demonstration. I get numerous tools in that customers bring to me with the same issue. So now I can show them exactly why I stress the importance of mixing the fuel to keep the tool lubricated.
My uncle in law put mixed gas in his lawnmower....When it started to smoke, he shut it off and swore it was wrecked. My dad offered to take it off his hands because he was gonna junk it. Dad gave it to me. That was 20 years ago. Thing still runs like a top! Obviously this video is the opposite of that, but I thought I'd share the story anyway. Bottoms up Steve!
Hhmmm... Had a neighbor that had some storm/tree damage awhile back. Over the course of an afternoon, he went through three rental chainsaws and never did finish the job. Claimed the tree was "really sappy". Bet this explains what really happened...lol.
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I have a Stihl BR600 backpack blower that I bought used off craigslist from a lawn care service for a steal because it needed a little work and the guy I bought it from said that supposedly one of their guys accidentally refilled it once with straight gas but soon realized the mistake. My guess would be that there must have still been some mixed fuel in the tank when the guy put straight gas in it so it wasn't running completely dry on oil, I just adjusted the carb and it runs great, has ever since. I haven't checked the condition of the engine or anything but it still has compression and runs good. Thanks for the informative video Steve!
I thought this "mix" business was nonsense for the longest time. Never knew it was this big of a deal.
You may have saved some of my gear if i had run out of oil/fuel mix...thanks!
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I ran a homelite trimmer on straight gas for a couple years. I did not know any better. My yard was real small so I only ran it for about 6 mins each time. I now use 2 cycle oil in the fuel. So far I have replaced the primer bulb and the carb. That trimmer is now 20 yrs old and still running with a few scratches on the piston. Best trimmer ever!!
I had a weed eater for 12 yrs that ran Schaeffer’s premix. Everything else wore out but the motor. I did same thing dumped fuel and it has now ran a tank of straight gas wide open and still runs. I think I will pull it back out and run another tank. That oil works
you know Steve, one thing is for sure! you are great guy, easy to listen to, not wasting words, always to point, with some fun. great guy to learn from. ignore all haters ;) love from Lithuania
I appreciate that!
That was interesting. I recall back when I was 17 years old, I got a weed eater that was a TMC kpw 23. In the owners manual TMC warned that running straight fuel with no oil would cause the engine to seize. It's obviously different with each two stroke engine. It can result in either seizure or the piston gets scored and the ring or rings can get damaged and get stuck leading to no compression. In any case the engine would have to be rebuilt.
My blower has been running weak, even after tuning it up and I decided this season to just go ahead and run straight STP multipurpose treatment and Berryman B12 Chemtool. They are both a similar product to Seafoam. It's been 5 months, I use it every 3-4 days and it is running better than it ever has.
Loved the video. The John Deere chainsaw sitting on the counter behind you was exactly like one I bought around 1980-1982. It used Echo parts and as the paint chipped in places it was echo orange under the yellow paint.
I followed Steve’s advice and run 40:1 on everything our company owns. Nothing has seized since. We lost a lot of equipment at 50:1. Thank you Steve! Lifetime subscriber here!
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shitty oils. i run 100:1.
Yup that’s what I do. Screw that tree hugger EPA nonsense. A little more is fine n dandy while too little just makes you go buy more expensive needless.y complicated equipment.
I've actually been running 40 to 1 as well! Zero issues here. The synthetic oil seems like a much better choice for two stroke engines as well.
If you run 40:1, you might have to adjust the carb because 40:1 runs LEANER than 50:1. But I use Stihl Ultra HP at 40:1 in EVERYTHING I own. 50:1 is probably OK, but I'm not chancing it. And I always have a nice golden brown spark plug, never any carbon buildup. These people talking about 100:1 because they use some fancy oil (usually Amsoil) are risking it in my humble opinion.
I use 40:1, adjust the carb, never get smoke, never any buildup and the spark plug always looks PERFECTLY golden/carmel color.
Steve, I was riding my old Yamaha DT360 single cylinder two stroke at full throttle along a busy highway many years ago. The DT360 had an oil tank and an injection metering system that was cable operated alongside the separate throttle cable. Unbeknownst to me, the oil injection cable had broken at some point so only enough oil for low rpms was being injected. As soon as I backed off the throttle, the engine seized immediately locking up the back wheel sending me into a crazy skid. I had the presence of mind to pull in the clutch thus releasing the back wheel and regained control. After coasting to the side of the road and clearing out my shorts, I actually managed to get it started and limped into work. Bored-out to 4th oversize + piston and a new cable and it ran like new again! I kept an eye on the injection cable after that!
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Wow, thanks!
Always enjoyed the videos. Now how about rebuild video on a this ryobi. A Cylinder head and piston replacement cost vs cost of a new one.
Yes. The MRS just ruined the $350 husqvarna this way. Wondering if there is any reasonable rebuild?
Not worth it if it ends up like this engine. Better to buy a new machine
@@robertrayhelm6075. This must have been a trend. My wife ruined my $350 leaf blower 3 years ago too…. I just pulled it out of the shed to see if it was worth fixing…. Guess not.
Very nice of you to sacrifice the equipment to educate others. I love MC......
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I have rebuilt those for about $30. You can get the parts on Ebay. Ring, piston and cylinder jug included.
Newagetojo, I think it's mostly just a brand name thing. I know the high dollar equipment is generally made of higher quality materials and some cheaper ones are really lower quality materials but if ANYTHING is taken care of and has regular maintenance done it can last a long time. People are always going to poo poo stuff, some of it is from actual experience but much of it is from following popular opinion.
Steve, first of all Thanks. Thanks to you I fix my weed eater Bolens, that didn't rav up, I did what you suggested about those screws and fix it. Then I bought a ryobi blower that didn't start. I dissasembled it appart, put some carb starter, blow it through the carb, put it together, then turn the screws 1.25 as you suggested, but didn't start, keep going, about 15', play around with those screws, more carb straight into the carb, and boom, when it goes about to start, I play more with screws and kaboom, work perfect. It turned out that it need 2 completely turns the high and the low screws. And now finally today I started worked in an old weed eater husqvarna, that has the piston stuck. I played around a lot of carb inside, I actually got a hammer and a metal point, and hammer that metal axel until it started to turn. Then hooked up my drill and give it several turns, I busted the screw but I put another one. that problem was fixed, I don't know if I am going to have luck bring it back to life, but I did learn a lot of it. I need to replace the fuel lines, and the purge bulb, tomorrow I will buy another one, but the carb looks ok, after cleaning of course, but the fuel lines were completely gummy, green gummy, I have to put another one.
I let you know how it turn out. But a big THANKS TO YOU, you have a soul of a TEACHER. PLEASE KEEP IT UP. I always thought I have no skills for motors, but now with YOU I am starting to have a little faith in myself. THANKS AGAIN.
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Good job Steve, Very informative as usual. I am really shocked that it lasted 9 minutes! Kinda impressed! LOL!
Right on, thanks for the comment......
Ive seen some stihls last 20 plus minutes, just crazy
@@StevesSmallEngineSaloon How about a video on doing the opposite - running 2 stroke fuel thru a 4 stroke engine ? I've done it a few times before. If you run 2 stroke thru a 4 stroke engine on a regular basis will it do any damage ?
@@greghollands3628 it can carbon up spark plugs and plug spark arrestors, but thats about it.
And now we know. Thanks Steve for taking one for the team. Stay awesome.
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I really enjoy your videos. They are no bull and informative. I own a small engine repair here in the Napa Valley Calif and have many times yanked a frozen recoil.This is what Utube is supposed to be Thanks Steve
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My dad did this without knowing not to use regular gas to our leaf blower last week. The string pulley is stuck now and wont pull. He said it died like this one did. Is there any way to fix it? Or would it be a lost cause and better buy a new one?
Bought a new Makita 2 stroke grass trimmer, and the books says that use 50:1 mix only with some fancy high quality oil they specified, but for all other oils it must be 25: 1, it says.
I used cheap 2 stroke oil from super market mixed 25:1, and it runs great.
It’s only a Ryobi relax.
LOL, my thoughts exactly....
My thoughts exactly as well. The second I saw the thumbnail.
my ryobi weed waker is trash so i had the same thoughts
My Ryan blower lost the rings twice in 2 years. My Redmax is going on 20 years. I bought it at a mower shop.
You get what you pay for.
whats wrong with ryobi?
I have a STHIL back pack blower and I have ran a gallon of straight gas through mine before with no problems that I know of. I did it because I had no mix and a lot of work to do. I have since run mixed gas through and after several years it is still going strong.
No you need to call still and tell them about that they'll probably give you a free blower for life but I'm sure that you added it to other oil and that was a lesser ratio but it still was adequate to lubricate it
@@vickilund7206 I had TRIED to contact STHL via email and also on their FB page But they had never responded to either. Besides I have absolutely NO DOUBT they would not GIVE me anything, heck, they cant even give me the time of day to respond to contacts.
Molson Canadian! My favorite! Getting hard to find in North Carolina mountains.
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OK - I guess I'll keep mixing the oil and gas for my old snow blower. Thanks for another great lesson Steve.
"don't forget your beer" love it
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Yes, a cold Canadian. I'll take a tallboy please.
i like the fact that you actually demonstrate what would happen instead of just saying in theory what should happen.
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Great demo, we had someone at our golf club (volunteer) so this to our Stihl leaf blower. Here is a question for you, is it worth doing a motor job on a small engine like this or is the engine and piece of equipment not worth keeping other than for parts?
I had the melting ring thing happen to a 2 stroke motorcycle when i had an air leak in the crankcase. It was a 500cc Yamaha. That was a fun bike. I didn't know an engine would even last 9 minutes without the oil. You have great videos.
Thanks for sharing
Reminds me when I bought my echo blower. I maintain all my own equipment and was concerned about what I would need to adjust the special screws it had. I asked the guy at the counter and he said "bring it to us. If you get caught adjusting your carb you will get a 30K fine from the EPA." Nice try. Because of his lying condescending BS I bought it from somewhere else and with a screwdriver and a grinder I made an adjustment tool. Within a couple years I noticed they went out of business probably from treating too many customers the same way. Just thought I would share a fun story.
How the EPA ever find out unless you tell them.
Saved a vintage mercury sled once by filing ring outof piston the cleaning all an reassemble ! 398cc with bogey wheels, tank as back rest! '72
Steve? How important is it to get that exact 40:1 or 50:1 ratio (depending on what your machine calls for)? When I make up a mixture I always err on the side of adding a bit more oil. Other than creating a bit more smoke, is this a bad practice? I'm not talking about doubling up the oil. I talking about using say 2.8ish oz per gallon instead of the 2.6 they call for. My thought for this is that some of the oil is always coated to the sides of the dispenser after you pour it in. So you are never really 100% emptying the dispenser.
If you get more oil in your mix - 32:1 instead of 40:1, for example) - your exhast might be a little smokier. Unless you go WAY overboard on the oil, all you'll get is some extra smoke.
I have tools that require different mix ratios. Since I don't want to have a bunch of different blends laying around I just mix one matching the requirements of the tool that calls for the most oil. No problems after several years of doing this.
@@duradim1 I agree. In my case, all my 2-strokes are 50:1. But I always err of the side of more oil. Those containers where you squeeze the amount of oil into the calibrated dispenser, I always go slightly over the 2.6 oz mark. I figure if you fill it to exactly 2.6, not all the oil gets poured out. Some left over is always coated on the side, or a little bit sits in the dispenser after you pour it out.
I’ve all Sthil products and they are over 12 yrs old , with daily use , not 1 has caused me any issues in all that time . I fill a plastic cup (135ml) with 2 stroke oil and pour into a gallon fuel can .
Excellent video. Thank you for all the information Steve. Your videos are all great.
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Thanks man. Great info Steve. 2 cycle oil, 93 octane in all the small engines on my plantation. 😊🤪
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Could you, or did you, replace the rings? Replace the piston? Use it as a leaful weapon?
I ran an ole 440 Rotax SkiDoo motor on straight gas for just over 6 minutes before it failed. Didn't get the damage you got(looks more like a lean burn). I put new bearings in and the motor worked fine
Big thumbs up there bud! Damnedest thing happen to me once. My helper ran straight fuel in my Husqvarna handheld blower for about 20 minutes before I caught him. Before that the thing had been running kind of rough, after I caught him and yelled at him I noticed the thing was running faster and better. I assumed the blower was toast, I checked the bore and piston and it seemed fine. The damn thing runs better now than it ever has. I do all my own tune-up and maintenance on my Motors, so I know this doesn't make any sense. Maybe the straight fuel somehow cleaned up a clogged jet at high temperature? It will forever bug me.
I'm curious about it too.
i have run plain gas thru a couple old saws i had that werent running so good i thought they were done but after that they run fine so i have seen it b4 but i do not know what the plain gas fixed either lol
WOW, thats awesome..
Old oil and gas can get gummy so I assume the straight gas helped break it down inside the 2 stroke that's just my guess my oldest sister gave me a two stroke weed whacker that had 2 cycle mix in that sat for several years or longer it was seized shut by the oil and gas that turned into varnish it was like glue we wound up scrapping it out has scrap metal i could not unsezie it!
Same thing happened to me yesterday with my Husquvarna blower. But I didn't catch it. It stopped running by I have compression. Plus it ran for 30 minutes before it quit.
Great video, I did that at my brothers house, he wanted me to help do his yard. So he was inside house , I was trying to start his blower it needed 2 stroke oil and gas mixed, I never owned a blower. I live in apartment with no lawn. So I grabbed the gas container he had filled it up a little more then half way, started it up took me awhile to start, but I used to mow grass at my house when I was a kid, so I remember pushing that little button, if I had trouble starting mower a couple time and it would start right up. But like I said never had a 2 stroke leaf blower, growing up or ever. So I blew his leaves for about 10 minutes And When it broke down, I said to him I told you don't by second hand shit from people he got it on craigslist, but when he asked me was it already filled I said yeah, I didn't put anything in it, he likes his beer so he had no idea, that it wasn't.
i thought twenty seconds max , great video , sad death of a hard working innocent blower .
That's a great obituary! 🤣
thinking of using it for my girlfriends headstone lol
Its a crappy one, a ryboi
the oil/fuel mixture helps cool/lubricate the piston/jug more effectively since it is air cooled.
Damn, never knew I had to put oil in the gas. The guys at Home Depot always look at me weird when I bring back my edger and explain to them it only ran for 10 minutes.
I'm surprised you got that much run time, without oil in the fuel. I wouldn't give it 2 minutes.
@@vincentrobinette1507 it was a joke lmao
A manager at HF Tools said the air compressor never gets filled with oil and some dick brings it back under warranty, the reason oil-free is what they sell now (lol)
Steve this video was great , my km131r cut out today whilst cutting a hedge and the pull start is now solid? Was very hot too
Steve, I was told by a Sthil dealer, after he replaced my carb on my Sthil blower it would not rev,, the reason the carb went bad was I used unleaded gas from the pump. He told me to use fuel with no ethanol in it. which is available, tho expensive, it is mainly used for rec vehicles.
What say you? I am using it in all my small engines. Thank You
canned pre-mix fuel is a good alternative to pump gas, but Stihl says their products are engineered to run on up to 10% ethanol fuel. my nearest ethanol-free source is 90 octane, and $4.99/gal right now.
If you're using the equipment everyday, fuel containing ethanol is fine. It's not going to sit in the carb long enough to do damage. If it's for a homeowner and will set a week or more between uses, I would recommend finding ethanol-free gas. Where I live, ethanol free is around $3 a gallon. It's what I run in my weedeaters, chainsaw, ATV, and lawn mower.
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Hi Ricardo
I've been using lead free petrol in my Sthil Leaf Blower and Hedge Cutters for the last 17 years .... never a problem .
I use them commercially
However, I'm in The UK ..... Fuel might be different here.
God Bless
What kind of the gas works for the blower
I run these small 2 strokes, Zenoah, in my hobby RC's. Modified can run 20,000+ rpms. I run 20 to 25 /1 ratio. At these rpm's the extra oil is needed not just as a lubricant, but the extra oil particles can act as a coolant. So much so, in boats which have water cooling, you have to run the water lines to warm the water first through the water cooled exhaust flange, then to the cylinder. Or the engine wont reach optimum temperature to run correctly. Great engines to tune and toy with.
I'd be interested to see same test done but mixed at a ratio of 100:1 to see if a big mistake in mixing your gas will cause significant damage.
Would it even run? Probably not.
@@glasswinder it ran for 9 minutes with zero oil. So sure it will run just curious if a real low ratio would still protect the engine.
@@iconr6racer yes it will, we used to run Amsoil in all our saws. 100:1 mix never had an issue.
@@leorapsonjr9134 why were you mixing it at that ratio on purpose? Surely they weren't suppose to be ran at that ratio?
@@iconr6racer amsoil Saber is designed to be ran at that super light ratio because it can protect it just fine
Never would have dreamed that it would have lasted 9 minutes! I was thinking a minute or two at the longest. Keep up the excellent videos!
Thanks, will do!
You’re gonna have to use the rake now!
Thanks I was wondering what would happen if we did not run a mix in the fuel. please keep up the good videos and thanks again
Unknowingly my son ran straight gas in our Echo trimmer all Summer before the engine failed.
I run Lucas two stroke at 40:1 have never had any issues. I swear that also has fuel stabilizers I had a saw sitting for a year and it started up.
If Strange Brew were a small engine RUclips channel.
Take off, Ya Hoser, Eh....
@@StevesSmallEngineSaloon long live that toque eh?
Wonderful demonstration, Stevie, you can't get better than that.
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New subscriber within the last month watching the odd vid in my spare time. (which are awesome) finally an episode where you're drinking my brand! 🍻🇨🇦
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3:35 Don’t forget your beer 🍺. Love that, Thanks Steve..
Straight gas is like cheap whiskey,
You have to mix it or it will hurt ya
Is it light
Is is the blower light
Yes I wanted to thank you for all your videos you really get in-depth till you break it down and make it very easy and a you explain it clearly there's a lot of people out there that don't know a lot of things good job and God bless you
Sad a life was lost for the sake of a great lesson. Once I caught the wife with the wrong gas can I just cringed. I'm going to forward this to her.
Thanks Steve.
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No chance I’ll ever catch my wife with a gas can. None.
women should not mess with engines ever, never should've been allowed to drive in the first place.
@@anandchundi6805 you sound like lots of fun at parties
some would say @benjamin gabbard
Im really love leave blower because it was easy to clean the sidewalk with leafblower
Great video, loved it. Now for pitys sake. please rebuild it. You owe the blower that much.
great videos Steve I have learnt so much from your videos just the ways you explain things makes it so easy to learn greetings from Austin Texas
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I already accidentally put straight gas in a leaf blower at my grandparents place. My mom and I were doing some lawn work at my grandparents place and I would leaf blow the grass off the driveway. I ran out of fuel in the leaf blower and asked my mom if there was any mixed fuel. She said there is fuel in the gas can. But she did not realized it was not mixed and neather did I. So I filled the gas tank all the way to the top and leaf blowed for about a half tank of fuel and it still ran fine. At the time my grandpop passed away and someone bought the house. So we took the leaf blower home. My dad was shocked to see unmixed gas in the leaf blower tank. When he told me about it I did a compression test and it was at 120 psi of pressure. I was surprised the thing didn't blow up then. I still use it today and it still runs great. And I always use mixed fuel in it. ☺
Wow. Almost 9 minutes. It lasted a lot longer than I thought it would. Almost a shame you had to kill it but thanks for the demonstration. I had an old man tell me that when it came to mixing fuel, "A smoking 2 cycle is a happy 2 cycle".
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ahhhhhh... like watching kids burning ants with a magnifying glass...
Rip Ryobi. Thank you Steve for teaching us.
I gave you a thumbs up, but it's sad to see a good engine ruined.
Educational purposes only......
@@StevesSmallEngineSaloon a video showing how to unseize the engine would be great !
In today’s world that’s considered engine cruelty and against the law. Dilly, Dilly !
Thanks Steve, I was considering buying a guys Husqvarna chainsaw and blower ghat he ran unmixed gas in. Now I know what to look for. See you in the next one.
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I know ryobi and homelite are under TTI but like damn they didnt even try to differentiate the machine. All is exactly the same as my homelite just the plastics are different colors and obviously the badging
Nothing like real life examples. Excellent Steve.
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thanks Steve. too bad to ruin that little engine. but again thank you for your great videos .
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😄 as I have that same blower, it hurt seeing you destroy that thing but thanks for the information. Using only premixed fuel my cylinder is still pretty on the inside.
In your opinion Steve, how long did it have before it was rendered unusable? If you were to catch your mistake after a minute or so, would too much damage already be done?
not an expert on these types of engines, but i would guess the most scoring of the piston and the cylinder wall is being done when you actually hear the rpm slowly start to drop. from then it gets worse quickly. Oils have gotten much better in the recent decades so the lubricating film on the moving parts will protect them for a little while if you catch your mistake soon.
I agree 100%....
It was probably still usable after 8 minutes! If it still runs, its usable...
Never witnessed this before , I know it has bound to have happen to someone before. Thanks again great demonstration.
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That is one reason why I avoid lending my petrol powered tools to anyone.
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Informative....No wonder these blowers don't last long when they are in the wrong hands...Surprised it lasted such a short time.
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I noticed a slight drop off in rpm about 10 seconds in. You can tell it didn’t like it straight off.
Merlin Cat That’s just how ryobis run
40:1 is the safest mixture for todays oils. Its a little smokey but everything runs flawless and 50:1 gives higher rpms but hotter temps
What would happen if you used a bit of 10w30 mixed in?
Years ago that is all anybody normally did...
probably nothing, maybe lack of lubrication because 10w30 is way stiffer than two-stroke oil.
@@banny123456 so what oil would be relatively the same thickness?
In the 1990's people just mixed engine oil until it had a clear smoke. When too rich it would leave oil sludge on the outside of the exhaust, blacken the spark plug early.
@@Darrell1981 exactly what I needed to know.
Something to use when stuck.
thanks Steve. in 30 years I've never made this exact mistake until today! I thought maybe I could save my blower, but no way!
Nice informative video. Btw I am interested in buying the carb and spacers . Lmk if u wanna sell. Thanks.
Steve I laugh so hard when I see you put that gas in there. Got some memories back years ago I was moving and lots thing happening well to say .I pick up my gas can fill my Pollan chainsaw and to the woods I went well that thing cut 2 pcs and you know the rest lol
Love these videos Steve! More importantly, where did you get the stubby Canadian? or have you had it around since the 70s?
Back on the shelves where I live! Bob and Doug Mackenzie style....
Stubby s are available in Canada again
Great Steve yet again. Best wishes and thanks from 🇬🇧.
Glad you enjoyed it
damn thats why mines doesnt work anymore
Do a video on cleaning a trimmer spark screen. I saw such a video and was able to get my Stihl trimmer going good as new.
There are kids in Ethiopia with leaves that could have used that blower.
mr7badass What, for food? lol ;D
Underrated comment.
:))) so true.. :)))))
Where tf they gettin 2smoke gas in Ethiopia lol
Good oil and fuel matters. I have an old, well maintained 80's Stihl 028 Super WB that has had carb rebuilds, oil pump replacements, new lines, engine gaskets / seals etc and still on the original cylinder and piston with only 1 ring change. Two strokes live a LONG time when you take care of them.
Hey Steve what's the difference between the stihl mix fuel and the one you can mix yourself?
The Stihl mix and the Aspen fuels are great for a unit you don't start for months at a time.
They also don't have as strong an exhaust smell, if that bothers you.
It's alkylate fuel, burns super clean
Just about all canned premixed fuels have fuel stabilizers in them.
It will last 4 years in an unopened can and roughly 2 after opening.
Straight gasoline with no stabilizers starts to degrade after 3 months and with 2 cycle oil mixed in,it can get really nasty. Think Vaseline.
Even if you dump the tank,the residual fuel can really goof things up. From the filter,fuel lines,carburetor and rings.
If you are not using a fuel stabilizer,at least do this at the end of the season. I prefer Deep Creep penetrating oil,but Mavel Mystery oil will do fine. Dump the tank.
Fill your tank with about a half cup of straight gas and add about a four second spray of Deep Creep or about a tablespoon of Marvel Mystery oil. Start the engine. No need to rev it up and let it idle for two 2 minutes and turn it off.
Dump the tank for storag.
I have a 25 year old Tanaka that was retired from the grounds crew at Opryland theme park. Still works wonderful with this regimen.
22 year old Snapper. Same regimen.
@@paulbillings1791 thanks will definitely do that
@@paulbillings1791 canned one (or from pump it's like 80cnt cheaper from pump than canned ones) "small engine fuels" Are here 100% parafin/alkylate . It's totally different than normal gasoline!
Hi Steve ,good video,i have that model but its about 12+ years.Still runs great,,i always used 40 or50mix,as long as it has some oil,it should last a least 2 years.for the price they great blowers,i think.keep the videos coming buddy.
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Excellent advice, including the product placement.
BTW, the stuff you out in, it's called petrol. Gas is something that goes in balloons.
Gas is short for gasoline ... what is gasoline for ??
I feel bad slowly listening to the life fade from the blower but atleast it's just a ryobi
@newagetojo have you used a shindaiwa, echo or even a stihl blower?
Can you please show a video on breathers on mowers brush cutters and chainsaws , for this happened with loads of machines they start but under load they start to die ,it's only because the breather is blocked or gone hard in the filler cap ,I've helped heaps of people out, my mate took his mower and brush cutter to an expert and they over look that problem every time