Armada would be the most mature, but yeah ironically Mango has matured a lot if you come to think of how he used to act years ago. I really like the guy now
Not an Hbox fan, but he really missed a great opportunity to bring back the "respect your elders" meme from the Chillin/Leffen beef. Especially since in the interview, Hbox was saying something along the lines of ,"He's just a kid. He needs to mature."
lol leffen does need to mature. If he's gonna walk off (twice if you checked their runback in losers) like a fking child upset over his loss then grow up
I appreciate hbox because he's at least up-front about the situation. Leffen hid behind closed curtains almost like ricegum would. You don't see either of them admitting their flaws, but at least hbox can confront his opponents face to face. And yeah, they're childish, but the fued is all the more drama that melee needs to stay alive
The virgin leffen. Best fox. Friend too melee community. Put his face on cereal box. The reason tube tvs are still being built for melee The Chad hbox. Best Puff. Doesn't help anyone git gud. Everyone hates him. Still wins majors with ease.
Dope92 HBox recently already realized how selfish he was about not helping anyone so remove that part he also is currently one of the most loved players so you can remove that aswell and it isn't THAT easy to win a major so remove that
@@tooglianprimus15 leffen is a liar, he paints hbox as a villain when hbox is just really good and pops off, fgc top players love hbox like justin wong while smash players hate him because people forget ITS A COMPETITION! YOU PLAY TO WIN!!! HELLO?!!! Nearly everyone in competitive melee has a pocket fox yet only one puff a miracle if more than one makes it in competitive top 8 majors melee.
I am always proud of your sportsmanship, son. It does not matter if you lose or win, you are a human being that has gone through very hard tests. Continue always being humble and the Universe will take care of putting everyone who hates you in its place
idk why people are upset about this... this is like the "eSports" WWE... it's spectacle, people take smash too seriously... these beefs add spice and hype to the matches. i like them, i dont care if they are immature. it's all TV sports drama. they talk shit, build up hype, comes the moment of truth, you get to talk shit back cause you earned it.
@@MattWithTheCat4541 not saying their beef is fake... I know they have real beef, but for the people watching I think the beef adds a lot of flavor to their matches. you cant wait for them to get at it or clap back... disrespectful? YES, entertaining?? "4 SURE". the scene needs a villain which Leffen fulfills "The GodSlayer". brings me back to when Philippino Champ was around, Idt these sort of attitudes fly in this day anymore since everyone gets banned or cant compete for "being bad" but I use to love the drama around the FGC.
I read all the comments and expected Hbox to act like super jerk at the end. Instead, I saw Leffen run away from a bump/shake, unable to swallow his pride after talking smack all pre-Gen5.
this isnt even chillindude/leffen beef anymore, this is legitimate hatred between leffen and hbox. at least leff hates hbox, i dont know if its the same the other way around. "Respect your elders" was funny but this kinda sucks to see two adults acting like children. sick fuckin set tho
Lol, Leffen walks off-stage because he knows he got his ass shut up, and then Hungrybox proceeds to scream like a man child in an attempt to make himself look like he's superior just because he won. Really speaks on both of these guys personalities negatively. I also love how Hungrybox pulls out the age card on Leffen in the interview when he's only a year older.
yeah leffen and hungrybox are both children in their personalities. its sad to see the melee community thinking something like walking off stage without a hand shake and then yelling "get fucked" is hype.
StayGold117 no it isn't, Leffen instigated this whole thing ever since after Smash Summit and before Genesis Leffen made a video which was practically a hit piece on Hbox. It's not friendly trash talking they both hate each other
You're an idiot. If you can't see that these guys actually don't like each other after seeing the post-game, pre-interviews, and Leffen's social media, you shouldn't be commenting on this thread.
Fieryvortex48 These are bad actions, but you can’t call them negative personalities just because of this. This is melee. They are trying to win. Leffen was salty and hbox was flexing on him. Nothing really representative of negative personalities. Just bad actions
Leffen not wanting to shake hands or fist bump indicates a massive amount of ego that can't be set aside for the sake of sportsmanship because your pride is bigger than that. Hungrybox yelling and shouting like a man child is indication of his narcissism. Those are negative traits displayed from their personalities. Literally any other player (Mango, Plup, Axe, Armada, etc.) would have done the opposite of what both of these clowns just did.
Hbox was entitled to that pop-off after all of Leffen's trash talk about him in the time leading up to the tournament. I like how many of the Leffen fanboys were bothered by Hbox's popoff, but not by the fact that Leffen refused to fist bump Hbox both times after he lost, something you characteristically do to show mutual respect for the other competitor as Leffen himself claims he has for Hbox.
The fuck? Naw im a leffen fanboy but a someone run those twitter fingers all day everday talking some shit all the time have at him. Leffen is good, but he's ALWAYS been a bitch talks and acts like a female.
I don't know what's funnier, Hugrybox's stupid popoff, or Leffen talking shit for the past 6 months and consecutively getting his ass kicked each time they face each other.
Lol Leffen is so salty he walks off the stage and people were still hating on HBox. Leffen has a character advantage and is supposed to be a godslayer, why couldn't he win? HBox is just playing as good as he always does.
Leffen was playing with a new controller (haven’t checked Twitter for the controller John) and the missed pivot up smash was what cost him the game. I’d be super salty, and I’m sure they both didn’t wanna act cordial with each other to fuel the beef story line.
Both acted stupid, but leffen kind of handled it better. He just walked away, whereas hungrybox throws his controller, screams and beats his chest like a gorilla lol. Hungrybox - bigger bitch in person Leffen - bigger bitch on Twitter
Leffen has been throwing shade at HBox for too long. I'm not an HBox fan (M2K + Armada), but I think he's a great player. Usually HBox has a great attitude. All we hear from outside sources are how they don't like HBox outside of the scene. I could care less if he doesn't want to give tips to other puff players - when is it his responsibility to make other players as good as him? Leffen is constantly attacking HBox... and lets face it, Leffen is liked because of his marketability. It's the same reason RB sponsors him - has he ever been top in the world? No. But he can sell a product. HBox is great, but Leffen only occasionally takes trophies. Leffen deserved more of a shutdown than HBox gave him right here. However, a chest bang and some smack talk in return is totally deserved. Leffen is the instigating little brother, never forget that. Good job HBox, give us a good match with Armada in GF.
najeemundy what? Lol no I'm legit studying and took a second to drop my thoughts. Those are 100% my feelings following the 2 for years. I'm not part of HFam, but I can't get behind Leffen until he matures. I'm actually pretty confused by your comment bud, lol maybe you're the one it applies to?
Lmfao if u complaining about how hbox acted then ur the one who needs to grow up that’s called being hype the same way if u hit a game winner in sports, treat melee with some intensity n passion I like it
That Set was noice, I don't Agree with Leffen not opting to Hand-Shake cause that was super unsportsman-like. So honestly i give props to HBox for flexing on him. All Leff does is trash talk him so I imagine just shutting his ass up like that must've felt great.
For the people commenting “Leffen’s salty for not shaking HBox’s hand,” he literally threw his controller with his fists clinched and aggressively approached Leffen, why the fuck would he shake his hand after doing that.
Didn't this whole recent beef get started with Hbox cheating on his girlfriend? I wouldn't be fond of the guy either, and if anything people say about his behavior outside of the scene is true, there's even more reason to dislike him. I'm not saying Leffen is a saint, but clearly there's more to it than just trashtalk.
Because he's purposely a dick to other Puff players when they ask him for advice? That pop off wasn't passionate. That was cringe adding onto an already cringey situation.
Hungrybox get's way too much hate. Leffen has a horrible attitude.. he has a fanbase specifically for how he's marketable. I'm not an HBox fan (M2K), but he's a great player and usually shows us a great attitude. Leffen deserved a shutdown for ALL the shade he's been throwing at HBox, and HBox gave him just that.
Christian Rose Have you ever thought that maybe that shade is deserved and if the accusations on HBox are real hes not a very nice person, regardless his skill?
Constant twitter retreats about how HBox is such a horrible person is definitely shade. I don't agree with cheating, if that's true. However, I usually stay up to date on how the smashers perform and their relationships with each other. I think it's cool that Plup shows so much outward respect for Armada (etc). Leffen's just a guy with a loudspeaker causing drama. We could all just disagree with HBox's actions if he does something bad. Leffen makes too much of a scene for me to agree. Not hating on you.. but I do still think it's shade, and I think it's usually too much to warrant. He's a top player, his responsibility is melee.. not putting other smashers on blast.
The smash community as a whole is so soft. When you have beef with someone, you play it out, you don't shake hands, or apologize, or any of that crap. You stomp and yell and shit talk until the other guy you detest is unable to come back.
When Mang0 starts shit with Hbox and Hbox and him have beef for a while, and when it ends Mang0 is praised and HBox is a little bitch. When Leffen starts shit and HBox fires back, Leffen's going to be just fine and people will still hate on HBox. I feel that no one is acting appropriately here, and I must admit, I don't know the full extent of the shit talk in this sitch, but I'm under the impression that Leffen started shit, HBox is responding in kind, and HBox is getting fucked up by the community again because of his perceived actions. I'm so sick of this shit. To a lot of people out there, there just seems to be a way of "being famous wrong" and people like HBox, ZeRo, Ken, and so many others just get raked over the coals because of it. He pushes these people away, and it's sad. Fucking get along and play some Melee homies. This isn't goddamned WWE. Some friendly mudslinging is fine, but fuck. HBox, stop feeding the hate. You ain't helping yourself. You can't change peoples mind, and this seems like it's going to get ugly real fast. I hope it doesn't...
Another thought; can things be really so bad that Leffen let HBox bring them back to Battlefield? A stage that HBox had already won on in this set? A stage that, if Leffen insisted, HBox couldn't counterpick to? He could've had said "No, you can take us to FoD, Yoshi's, FD, or Stadium," but he didn't. Huh.
In the future would it be possible to be able to mute the commentators it was annoying as hell listening to toph and Scar not shut up for more than a second the entire time it's just genuinely annoying.
Everyone does. That does not excuse the way Hungrybox acted on one of the biggest stages in Melee. He's number one, he needs to act like a professional and stop being so dramatic. While I do agree Leffen is stirring shit up on purpose, he walked off gracefully and did not give in to Hbox's childish antics. All over some tweets, nonetheless. Stupid. I wish he would have given Hbox a fist bump in their LF set though. Much respect to Hbox for trying. Just put this BS to bed and play some Melee. Feels like fucking highschool petty shit.
Noah McGuigan he's not allowed to get super excited when he shits on a little kid who continually shit talks him? Especially when leffen curves him when he tried to go for a handshake.
Of course he is. Pop off all you want, but the way he did it was just a bit much, in my opinion. Also, the handshake thing was after the whole hbox pop off. Just a bit over-dramatic for my tastes, from both sides. Just wish they would just end this stupid beef.
Even coming from an hbox hater like me, it kinda sucks to see how few people root for hbox anymore. on stream they asked who was rooting for leffen and everyone started screaming then they asked who was rooting for hbox and like 20 people yelled. I dont like him as a person or player but he's not really "killing melee", good to see it doesnt seem to bother him on the outside very much
18:40 Hbox getting really hostile throwing his controller and approaching all violent like that. I mean he obviously wanted to "bully" leffen on stage for everyone to see so i don't blame him for just leaving stage. Then again leffen didn't fist bump last time so i guess that's kinda on him too.
People are saying Leffen was salty, lame and what-not for walking off immediately, but based on what others at the venue (including the commentators) stated, Leffen quickly went to a setup to practice for the upcoming matches - especially prepping up for Jiggs despite Mango & Armada being his next opponents. That's determination. He knew he had a second chance and focused on that. Rather amazing, if I may say.
leffen failing the execution test aka running into braindead disjoint bairs. actually a shame that such a low skill cap character like puff can be taken this far by exploiting 1 aspect of neutral. hbox been getting wins over players better than him for 10 years cuz hes objectively playing an easier game
why is hbox the only one capable of doing it tho? by that logic, players like Prince Abu should be able to stomp everybody else but you don't see it happen.
I only detest the murmuring that Leffen and the other alleged victims of Hbox do. If the accusations hold true, then TOs need to be contacted because from what people claim it gets into stalking/harassment territory and stopping this experience from happening in the future should be a priority. They've punished people like Leffen, Mafia, Hyuga, Shiz, and many more, there's no reason he should be exempt from this if he's an issue for the venue.
Hungrybox: *throws down controller, slams chests, ending with a series of flexes*
Leffen: *blushes, then runs away*
#LeffenBox
I'm fuckin done
Hungrybox: *gives homie a kiss*
Start of a beautiful fanfic
Somalian Pirate You sir, have a nice fanfic on your hands.
Leffen: *It's not like I wanted you to win or anything, baka*
The virgin Leffen vs the Chad Hungrybox
If someone's talking shit and lose of course you flex on em. Dats da rules
Hbox was chill as fuck when I met him, so it's funny to see him like this, lol
Funny to think about that nowadays Mango seems like the most mature and grown up of the top smashers lol
what about Armada?
yea him too. Two legends right there
Armada would be the most mature, but yeah ironically Mango has matured a lot if you come to think of how he used to act years ago. I really like the guy now
He is a Dad after all
I'm surprised how mature PPMD is for a guy literally named "Doctor PeePee"
HBox flexing on him. Leffen deserved it. I don't like HBox but they've had beef for so long now and Leffen just got shut up. HBox deserved it
Gee, you'd think people would care less about semifinals.
Mr. Duck i agree with you to an extent but i feel like Hboxs reaction to leffen walking away was a bit too much... He needs to calm the fuck down.
Afternoon Delight have you been living under a god damn rock?
Vengeful Fork actually iv been living under a bridge, its right next to a Dunkin Donuts so im able to use their wifi.
O I live in the mc donalds bathroom
Not an Hbox fan, but he really missed a great opportunity to bring back the "respect your elders" meme from the Chillin/Leffen beef. Especially since in the interview, Hbox was saying something along the lines of ,"He's just a kid. He needs to mature."
he didnt wanna get 5-0d.
How can Hungrybox say that Leffen is still a kid when he's literally only one year older and isn't that mature either lmao
lol leffen does need to mature. If he's gonna walk off (twice if you checked their runback in losers) like a fking child upset over his loss then grow up
@@stormcutter59 agreed
I appreciate hbox because he's at least up-front about the situation. Leffen hid behind closed curtains almost like ricegum would. You don't see either of them admitting their flaws, but at least hbox can confront his opponents face to face. And yeah, they're childish, but the fued is all the more drama that melee needs to stay alive
leff/hbox beef confirmed scripted by bobby scar kappa
Bleu_ yeah you can’t just pretend it’s not there, you gotta at least shake hands
Like Ricegum lol. This is a comment of the times. Man I miss this era.
The virgin leffen. Best fox. Friend too melee community. Put his face on cereal box. The reason tube tvs are still being built for melee
The Chad hbox. Best Puff. Doesn't help anyone git gud. Everyone hates him. Still wins majors with ease.
mounne13 my name is Chad and I'm offended that you relate this name to Hbox
Leffen is also a douche lol
Dope92 HBox recently already realized how selfish he was about not helping anyone so remove that part he also is currently one of the most loved players so you can remove that aswell and it isn't THAT easy to win a major so remove that
@@tooglianprimus15 leffen is a liar, he paints hbox as a villain when hbox is just really good and pops off, fgc top players love hbox like justin wong while smash players hate him because people forget ITS A COMPETITION! YOU PLAY TO WIN!!! HELLO?!!! Nearly everyone in competitive melee has a pocket fox yet only one puff a miracle if more than one makes it in competitive top 8 majors melee.
I am always proud of your sportsmanship, son. It does not matter if you lose or win, you are a human being that has gone through very hard tests. Continue always being humble and the Universe will take care of putting everyone who hates you in its place
lol the number of people who think this is hboxs mum is astounding
i think pengboys freaked out (big surprise) at some commenters because they didnt believe that was actually his mom, so i dont know lol
are you sure she's not? I can't fathom why a random person would write these things.
either way, I think this person is very sweet, heartwarming even.
I am HUNGRYBOX mom!!!
I am HUNGRYBOX mom!
idk why people are upset about this... this is like the "eSports" WWE... it's spectacle, people take smash too seriously... these beefs add spice and hype to the matches. i like them, i dont care if they are immature. it's all TV sports drama. they talk shit, build up hype, comes the moment of truth, you get to talk shit back cause you earned it.
@@MattWithTheCat4541 not saying their beef is fake... I know they have real beef, but for the people watching I think the beef adds a lot of flavor to their matches. you cant wait for them to get at it or clap back... disrespectful? YES, entertaining?? "4 SURE". the scene needs a villain which Leffen fulfills "The GodSlayer". brings me back to when Philippino Champ was around, Idt these sort of attitudes fly in this day anymore since everyone gets banned or cant compete for "being bad" but I use to love the drama around the FGC.
Leffen left faster than my dad
I read all the comments and expected Hbox to act like super jerk at the end. Instead, I saw Leffen run away from a bump/shake, unable to swallow his pride after talking smack all pre-Gen5.
That Hbox popoff was actually kind of hype for once lmao
To be fair it's more hype then crying in shock
A N G R Y B O X
I love this beef. The community need more of this , makes tourneys much more entertaining
this isnt even chillindude/leffen beef anymore, this is legitimate hatred between leffen and hbox. at least leff hates hbox, i dont know if its the same the other way around. "Respect your elders" was funny but this kinda sucks to see two adults acting like children.
sick fuckin set tho
Lol, Leffen walks off-stage because he knows he got his ass shut up, and then Hungrybox proceeds to scream like a man child in an attempt to make himself look like he's superior just because he won. Really speaks on both of these guys personalities negatively. I also love how Hungrybox pulls out the age card on Leffen in the interview when he's only a year older.
yeah leffen and hungrybox are both children in their personalities. its sad to see the melee community thinking something like walking off stage without a hand shake and then yelling "get fucked" is hype.
StayGold117 no it isn't, Leffen instigated this whole thing ever since after Smash Summit and before Genesis Leffen made a video which was practically a hit piece on Hbox. It's not friendly trash talking they both hate each other
You're an idiot. If you can't see that these guys actually don't like each other after seeing the post-game, pre-interviews, and Leffen's social media, you shouldn't be commenting on this thread.
Fieryvortex48 These are bad actions, but you can’t call them negative personalities just because of this. This is melee. They are trying to win. Leffen was salty and hbox was flexing on him. Nothing really representative of negative personalities. Just bad actions
Leffen not wanting to shake hands or fist bump indicates a massive amount of ego that can't be set aside for the sake of sportsmanship because your pride is bigger than that. Hungrybox yelling and shouting like a man child is indication of his narcissism. Those are negative traits displayed from their personalities. Literally any other player (Mango, Plup, Axe, Armada, etc.) would have done the opposite of what both of these clowns just did.
1:30 "YO I WANNA SEE HBOX AND LEFFEN WRESTLE AFTER THIS SET"
LMAO WTF
I dont know what's worse, Leffen being a sore loser, or Hungrybox being a sore winner
probably leffen, since he starts shit and can't back it up then won't admit when he's wrong
I do like both of them
Sore winners are always worse
I don't see Hbox being a sore winner in this case. Leffen came at him, Hbox did his part and let his play do the talking.
,
Hbox was entitled to that pop-off after all of Leffen's trash talk about him in the time leading up to the tournament. I like how many of the Leffen fanboys were bothered by Hbox's popoff, but not by the fact that Leffen refused to fist bump Hbox both times after he lost, something you characteristically do to show mutual respect for the other competitor as Leffen himself claims he has for Hbox.
Being a HungryBox fan is complicated
Its because the community is aids
lmao try being a leffen/armada fan
The fuck? Naw im a leffen fanboy but a someone run those twitter fingers all day everday talking some shit all the time have at him. Leffen is good, but he's ALWAYS been a bitch talks and acts like a female.
Is it bad that I like hbox just cause i'm a puff main too?
I don't know what's funnier, Hugrybox's stupid popoff, or Leffen talking shit for the past 6 months and consecutively getting his ass kicked each time they face each other.
I like how nowadays Mang0 is probably the least hostile of the big 6 towards Hbox lmao
Lol Leffen is so salty he walks off the stage and people were still hating on HBox. Leffen has a character advantage and is supposed to be a godslayer, why couldn't he win? HBox is just playing as good as he always does.
they both acted like bitches
Watching it again, yeah they kinda did
Character advantage my ass
Leffen was playing with a new controller (haven’t checked Twitter for the controller John) and the missed pivot up smash was what cost him the game. I’d be super salty, and I’m sure they both didn’t wanna act cordial with each other to fuel the beef story line.
Both acted stupid, but leffen kind of handled it better. He just walked away, whereas hungrybox throws his controller, screams and beats his chest like a gorilla lol.
Hungrybox - bigger bitch in person
Leffen - bigger bitch on Twitter
Why did Leffen just walk off at the end? I mean at least show some respect
He walked off and didn't show respect because he's leffen. That's his whole thing.
Leffen has been throwing shade at HBox for too long. I'm not an HBox fan (M2K + Armada), but I think he's a great player. Usually HBox has a great attitude. All we hear from outside sources are how they don't like HBox outside of the scene. I could care less if he doesn't want to give tips to other puff players - when is it his responsibility to make other players as good as him? Leffen is constantly attacking HBox... and lets face it, Leffen is liked because of his marketability. It's the same reason RB sponsors him - has he ever been top in the world? No. But he can sell a product. HBox is great, but Leffen only occasionally takes trophies. Leffen deserved more of a shutdown than HBox gave him right here. However, a chest bang and some smack talk in return is totally deserved. Leffen is the instigating little brother, never forget that. Good job HBox, give us a good match with Armada in GF.
Nothing to read here guys, just an Hbox apologist
Shulk Universe I'm just bored while studying; read if you want.
"I don't have a good response so ill just do what everyone else does"
Basically you rn
najeemundy what? Lol no I'm legit studying and took a second to drop my thoughts. Those are 100% my feelings following the 2 for years. I'm not part of HFam, but I can't get behind Leffen until he matures. I'm actually pretty confused by your comment bud, lol maybe you're the one it applies to?
Well said
Lmfao if u complaining about how hbox acted then ur the one who needs to grow up that’s called being hype the same way if u hit a game winner in sports, treat melee with some intensity n passion I like it
I remember seeing leffen walk away on stream and realizing he was hitler
That Set was noice, I don't Agree with Leffen not opting to Hand-Shake cause that was super unsportsman-like. So honestly i give props to HBox for flexing on him. All Leff does is trash talk him so I imagine just shutting his ass up like that must've felt great.
Respect. Your. Elders.
And here we can observe two children playing a children's fighting game
FindtheDerivative I believe you mean “party game”.
Yeah def party game get with it
P.S. Leffen I aint done yet..
Lol this comment was before he won evo
For the people commenting “Leffen’s salty for not shaking HBox’s hand,” he literally threw his controller with his fists clinched and aggressively approached Leffen, why the fuck would he shake his hand after doing that.
Justin Choe Did he really? Jesus.
ZombiePlus yep, I didn’t realize till I saw a different angle, dude literally threw his controller lol
Justin Choe he was salty lol
ZombiePlus he definitely did
twitter.com/m1lkcast/status/955307652740923392
IS THIS THE FIRST TOURNAMENT WHERE NONE OF THE GODS PLAYED EACH OTHER????
HUNGRYBOX AT THE END!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love him lmao
Ryng Tolu Seemed like a huge dick move to me.
I wouldn't be nice to a person that is literally insulting me via social media, would you?
Didn't this whole recent beef get started with Hbox cheating on his girlfriend? I wouldn't be fond of the guy either, and if anything people say about his behavior outside of the scene is true, there's even more reason to dislike him. I'm not saying Leffen is a saint, but clearly there's more to it than just trashtalk.
Jason Mosher its not you or leffens business you shitter
Nah you wanna move those fingers on ur phone talking ALLLL THAT SHIT thats what makes it so satisfying.
I don't see why people hate him so much. The passion is what melee is about.
Because he's purposely a dick to other Puff players when they ask him for advice? That pop off wasn't passionate. That was cringe adding onto an already cringey situation.
Hungrybox get's way too much hate. Leffen has a horrible attitude.. he has a fanbase specifically for how he's marketable. I'm not an HBox fan (M2K), but he's a great player and usually shows us a great attitude. Leffen deserved a shutdown for ALL the shade he's been throwing at HBox, and HBox gave him just that.
"Shade he's been throwing at Hbox." It's not really shade when you get caught cheating on your girlfriend.
Christian Rose Have you ever thought that maybe that shade is deserved and if the accusations on HBox are real hes not a very nice person, regardless his skill?
Constant twitter retreats about how HBox is such a horrible person is definitely shade. I don't agree with cheating, if that's true. However, I usually stay up to date on how the smashers perform and their relationships with each other. I think it's cool that Plup shows so much outward respect for Armada (etc). Leffen's just a guy with a loudspeaker causing drama. We could all just disagree with HBox's actions if he does something bad. Leffen makes too much of a scene for me to agree. Not hating on you.. but I do still think it's shade, and I think it's usually too much to warrant. He's a top player, his responsibility is melee.. not putting other smashers on blast.
How can people be on Leffens side?
He is just such a bad sportsman
I agree
They went at it for a whole decade
8:28 oh no he died
Why do they have beef?
Task Magician Leffen talking shit about hbox online
"hungrybox knocked leffen up"
-scar
The flex thougghhhhhh
Wish they had the interviews
Hbox is the biggest fucking gangster for going off on Leffen after the game lmfao
lol did Leffen say something to hbox to make him mad? he just threw down his controller and started yelling lmao
Leffen has been talking MAD shit on hbox recently so that's why he popped off so hard
A refused hand shake too
Did S2J enter G5?
Yes, I think lucky eliminated him
Mauricio Antonio he lost to axe and sfat
Why Leffen look like Pagan Min?
D O O M B O X Activated
fucking heartbreaker
Perhaps leffen shouldn’t have been a sore loser and hbox shouldn’t have been a sore winner.
hbox deserved to pop off like that considering leffen was the first to act sore, and he was talking shit prior to the tourney
The smash community as a whole is so soft. When you have beef with someone, you play it out, you don't shake hands, or apologize, or any of that crap. You stomp and yell and shit talk until the other guy you detest is unable to come back.
When Mang0 starts shit with Hbox and Hbox and him have beef for a while, and when it ends Mang0 is praised and HBox is a little bitch. When Leffen starts shit and HBox fires back, Leffen's going to be just fine and people will still hate on HBox.
I feel that no one is acting appropriately here, and I must admit, I don't know the full extent of the shit talk in this sitch, but I'm under the impression that Leffen started shit, HBox is responding in kind, and HBox is getting fucked up by the community again because of his perceived actions.
I'm so sick of this shit. To a lot of people out there, there just seems to be a way of "being famous wrong" and people like HBox, ZeRo, Ken, and so many others just get raked over the coals because of it. He pushes these people away, and it's sad. Fucking get along and play some Melee homies. This isn't goddamned WWE. Some friendly mudslinging is fine, but fuck.
HBox, stop feeding the hate. You ain't helping yourself. You can't change peoples mind, and this seems like it's going to get ugly real fast. I hope it doesn't...
Another thought; can things be really so bad that Leffen let HBox bring them back to Battlefield? A stage that HBox had already won on in this set? A stage that, if Leffen insisted, HBox couldn't counterpick to? He could've had said "No, you can take us to FoD, Yoshi's, FD, or Stadium," but he didn't. Huh.
Dam juan was pissed
Best channel
COME AT ME BRO
In the future would it be possible to be able to mute the commentators it was annoying as hell listening to toph and Scar not shut up for more than a second the entire time it's just genuinely annoying.
What a sore looser. Lets go Hbox! You can do this! Get that GF "W"!
Nope
What's getting loose? His vagina?
Yeah dude. Wtf that was uncalled for. Then again it's Leffen. lmao
Well, im very happy Plup won. Hope people start consider calling him the 6th God now, he was a beast this tournament
No matter what you think of Hbox, he always showed sportsmanship above and beyond what anyone else has.
Leffen really is the premire beta male my god.
lmao that ending!
Leffen is such a penis
What a match
Why hbox always gotta act so extra tho
cause his feelings are huwt :
Do you not know the history or?
Everyone does. That does not excuse the way Hungrybox acted on one of the biggest stages in Melee. He's number one, he needs to act like a professional and stop being so dramatic. While I do agree Leffen is stirring shit up on purpose, he walked off gracefully and did not give in to Hbox's childish antics. All over some tweets, nonetheless. Stupid. I wish he would have given Hbox a fist bump in their LF set though. Much respect to Hbox for trying. Just put this BS to bed and play some Melee. Feels like fucking highschool petty shit.
Noah McGuigan he's not allowed to get super excited when he shits on a little kid who continually shit talks him? Especially when leffen curves him when he tried to go for a handshake.
Of course he is. Pop off all you want, but the way he did it was just a bit much, in my opinion. Also, the handshake thing was after the whole hbox pop off. Just a bit over-dramatic for my tastes, from both sides. Just wish they would just end this stupid beef.
H Box is a Mad Dawg
Omg, rematch :o
It's like you guys think that Hbox would have shaken Leffens hand if Leffen won that set or something.
He probably would have
For the two most big headed, overrated players they sure like to act unprofessional.
It's reaaaally not being a sore loser that they don't fist bump when they've had such obvious bad blood between them.
Even coming from an hbox hater like me, it kinda sucks to see how few people root for hbox anymore. on stream they asked who was rooting for leffen and everyone started screaming then they asked who was rooting for hbox and like 20 people yelled. I dont like him as a person or player but he's not really "killing melee", good to see it doesnt seem to bother him on the outside very much
18:40 Hbox getting really hostile throwing his controller and approaching all violent like that. I mean he obviously wanted to "bully" leffen on stage for everyone to see so i don't blame him for just leaving stage. Then again leffen didn't fist bump last time so i guess that's kinda on him too.
People are saying Leffen was salty, lame and what-not for walking off immediately, but based on what others at the venue (including the commentators) stated, Leffen quickly went to a setup to practice for the upcoming matches - especially prepping up for Jiggs despite Mango & Armada being his next opponents. That's determination. He knew he had a second chance and focused on that. Rather amazing, if I may say.
That ending is a really bad look for both players. Call me old-fashioned, but i value respect and honor over pointless beef, even if Hbox is a douche.
SALT
This match approaches PM levels of salt
Two man children, w hat a sight to behold.
Really ez game for hbox I hope mango will stop him.... Oh wait a second LUL
Loïc Patry-Vincent don't worry. Plup's got you
il100374 I'm so happy my boy plup won was a really good second set
PJSalt PJSalt PJSalt
Leffen walked away cause HBox threw down his controller and gave Leffen a death glare. Leffen is in the right here.
Damn I really wanted leffen to put hbox in his place
daniel aldersson like he could🤣🤣
HungryDouche
xd
leffen failing the execution test aka running into braindead disjoint bairs.
actually a shame that such a low skill cap character like puff can be taken this far by exploiting 1 aspect of neutral.
hbox been getting wins over players better than him for 10 years cuz hes objectively playing an easier game
i do think you need to reevaluate your opinions on puff's b-air. it may be a 'cheap' hit, but puff is easily punishable in many ways.
why is hbox the only one capable of doing it tho? by that logic, players like Prince Abu should be able to stomp everybody else but you don't see it happen.
Oh yeah I forgot Jiggs is easier that's why she's S tier and Fox is B tier
al dente
I don’t like hbox at all but this is a very poor evaluation of the way he plays nowadays.
I only detest the murmuring that Leffen and the other alleged victims of Hbox do. If the accusations hold true, then TOs need to be contacted because from what people claim it gets into stalking/harassment territory and stopping this experience from happening in the future should be a priority.
They've punished people like Leffen, Mafia, Hyuga, Shiz, and many more, there's no reason he should be exempt from this if he's an issue for the venue.
Yooooo lmaooo
Cringe box
haha, you look silly now
competitive children playing a childrens party game, whats so weird about that
Not really much of a party game if it involves so much tech lol.
One of the most heart breaking sets :(
i wonder if Hbox could be a top player if he didnt get free kills off REST
christina fitzgerald do you think he would be a top player if he didn't main puff?