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I think the series got off to a great start and ended in the worst way possible, though I liked that at least this came to an end unlike other Netflix originals
After 3 years of watching this show and waiting for the last season after watching the ending I can’t help but feel empty as someone who been a fan since it came out and rooted for it to succeed just for it to end like that how disappointing
I think they could have reunited Magna and Signi at the end of episode 5 in season 3 and it would be all good for me but that he is caught up in a trauma and everything was imagined is pretty disappointing😢
@@DerNoo-Noo I was expecting Signi to be Sif, and that she and Magna were meant to be together. However, Magna dies fighting the serpent, and the last scene of the series is Signi and Saxa glaring at each other during his funeral, as they protectively hold their pregnant bellies. Thus, Magna will live on in his children.
@@colinpreston80same dude! I was a hundred percent sure she was Sif! Because I thought “Why are they introducing this secondary character that we’ve never seen right during the season where we’re supposed to see the new gods appear?” MAJOR disappointment fr
The worst apart about the ending is that all the scenes of his ragnarok vision were so badass. Some great shots and cgi. They could’ve easily ended it with that.
Yes I kinda liked the fact that the battle didn’t have marvel/dc choreography, and it was something more simple, just a bunch of very powerful people stabbing each other to death, it had a gritty and realistic feel, but they managed to ruin it with the schizophrenia thing
YESSS, I totally agree, also their acting was amaaazing, but what the heck the creators did with the story?? Unbelievable. And they could ended it even with the peace part, it would had make more sense at least
@@colemacgrath2005 Absolutely. The battle was awesome, but because it was all fake there was zero weight to it, zero tension. I kinda want to know what actually happened, what was the real story behind the schizophrenia? Did he actually have a relationship with Saxa?
@@samyalayse8945 exactly, they could´ve shown ragnarok as a vision of the future and then magne chooses to prevent it with the cease fire, and end the show there
The biggest problem for me (apart from the ending) is not knowing what was real. How did Vidar really die? All of the fights they had. Majority of the friends he made at the table in the end, were made in his imagination - So how come they're still there and still friends? How did they actually meet.
I think every friend he made during that time he made into a god in his head so they couldn't (likely) die and he wouldn't lose anyone else to either death or them simply drifting apart since they were called together by fate.
if they wanted to put that on us really planned from the start they would have done a this is what really happened at those times montage for sure. for me that is proof that it wasnt planned since they didnt shoot those scenes. If you pull the switcheroo like that you need a sixth sense montage
Terrible way to leave an audience. Screenplay writing at its worst to take your viewers on a visual trip that only took place in the 'mind' is very disappointing. If there was a 4th season I wouldn't wach it.
As soon as he took out those young thor magazines i was like "no fucking way, they cant do this to me" and they did. They really used an elementary school twist and threw whole series down the drain. 3rd season overall was mid, but all the build up for this epic battle for nothing, what a shame
It ended like it ran, stupid. Thor was a real pussy crying every show, and dumb as a box of rocks getting people killed with his stupid actions and statements, it was totally unbelievable. Season 2 was even worse than 1, completely crazy. I wanted to like this show but it was the worst telling of the old pantheon I have ever seen. Everyone acted like they were retarded or something, but Thor/Magne man what a tool.
The whole “schizophrenia” angle doesn’t explain why the headteacher didn’t involve the police when magne brutally murdered her husband if they weren’t actually giants. It doesn’t explain a lot of things, it’s like they fired the writer at the last episode and got some random guy off the street to finish writing it.. such a disappointment.
It really felt like the ending was “just stop being schizophrenic and grow up” which is just… why. So I’m gonna choose to interpret it literally any other way 😅
@@lukaposeidon8490 I actually kind of like that lol. It kind of put us in Magne's head the entire time until we also realize it was all in his head. I get the approach for sure. They had to make it feel real so when this reveal came, we would start questioning what was real and what wasn't. Let's be real, there are many, many movies, shows, games, etc. about Ragnarok. Would everyone really be okay with the obvious? We've seen it and heard it so many times done in different ways, but the same outcome lol.
I think that Magne did fight the father, but instead of dying on the axe, the father had a heart attack. Saxa's mother mentioned that "he died of a heart attack" and, to her therapist, that Magne had killed her husband but she didn't want to get the police involved, out of understanding for his illness. Her supposedly telling her therapist everything about being a giant and trying to kill her daughter was either Magne unreliable narrative (he's not actually there) or probably more her venting the wild accusations that Magne had been making against her family in a joking manner. Remember: I think the principle is talking to the therapist as a friend, not a patient, because if she were his patient, then him asking her out would be a breach of ethics. If the father really turned to dust, then how would his family know he'd died? They'd either come home to a pile of ash against the wall and not know what it is, or Magne could have cleaned up the dust, and they'd not know where he went. Either way, the whole town knew he was dead the next day.
@@aussiewanderer6304 Definitely going to do a rewatch. Knowing what we know now, I think we'd probably be able to understand it a little bit better. Assuming this was always the direction they wanted to go and not a last second thing.
Yeah, Im trying to understand was this an abrupt cancellation where the writes didn't know or was it only given 3 seasons? I know netflix likes to give few seasons then cancel for certain reasons but this ending could be fine if a season 4 was gonna happen and there was more involved...
Just finished it. Completely let down. Feel like I spent 4 days preparing food and finding out it wasn't even real food the entire time. Now I'm hungry and annoyed...
Nah, it's somehow worse than that. It would be like if harry woke up at the end of the final book from a dream, went to kings cross station and want into a pub called 'the hogwarts express' where he saw Ron, Draco, hagrid, hermione and the rest of them waiting for him to have a beer. Like, if it's all fake how did he meet all these people. The whole story was about them bonding over their lives so who the fuck really are these ppl now if it wasn't real
@@0Fate8Bound0 exactly it's so confusing and to leave so many things unanswered questions is ending appeared on a thin air and it just slapped you in the face
I thought the schizophrenia angle was for the characters to think Magne was crazy as he continued the fight against the giants. I’m mad I watched 3 seasons for it all to be in his head.
It can’t have been in his head, why would the boy have the injury in his eye? Why would they all be friends? Why would Fjor be hanging out with the gods? Why would Saxa have dated Magne? That can’t be made up by him because why else would Signy say that he’s been hurting her? It doesn’t make any sense. Vidar having a heart attack could actually be true. But the entire therapy storyline can’t be imagined because Magne didn’t know anything about it.
I was actually expecting better. The season finale was indeed a big disappointment. It was very weak and it seems as if the writers/production team took the easy way out.
Easy way out? Dude choosing to show that everything was only in his head while showing the fight AND his inner battle is not 'easy way out'. Specially considering the people behind the show are Scandinavian themselves... It's a baller move... Kind of like an Indian show depicting ramayan as just a story reimagined by a mental patient... There is going to be hate everywhere
@@Geraldo_Rivianbro you must not watch a lot of movies/tv that was most certainly lazy writing. Let’s make a comparison of the “all in head” cop out. Take Joker (2019) for example, they made it all in his head, but it was thought out correctly and foreshadowed throughout the entire movie. It’s more precise and structured. In Ragnarok, it just felt as if they didn’t know how to end it and there was no real masterful writing, red hearings, foreshadowing just nothing.
I feel scammed, the whole season went nowhere for most of the episodes in my opinion. It truly makes me sad that this ended like this, I started watching the show when it came out and I just feel kinda empty after knowing the truth.
I don’t believe all this was in his head at all. I believe everything from season 1 to present did in fact happen. What Magne was seeing was PAST EVENTS but with a modern day filter. He was actually viewing Ragnarok that happened in the past and how that path of violence ended both the giants and gods. But in present day, for the first time in history Thor ended the cycle of violence and chose peace. Remember Magne is a reincarnation of Thor. I believe what we saw in the ceremony was Magne unlocking all of his memories of his past life and viewed the war he fought with the giants but with a modern day filter hence the clothes they are wearing. I mean it makes sense.
yah but sadly homie it doesnt matter what we believe in, the writers made it shown that it was. sad ending, very bad ending, but you cant overun the facts here.
What you just explained makes no sense aren't there other people supposed to be Reincarnation of other gods how come they're not seeing this too how come Thor/Magner and all the other reincarnations of old gods just ignore the fact that this happened and they're like hallucinating Thor/Magner next door was like physically acting with the World serpent why were none of the other old gods doing that my disappointment is immeasurable
@@SebastianWitt well I mean that just that just stupid that is just stupid nothing else in the show was up to the viewer to make an opinion about it like why this is the so confusing and disappointing
The ending seemed as if it was originally meant to be leading into a 4th season but the development for it was cancelled and therefore required a quick rewrite to wrap up the show at the end season 3
There where Problems before. If the Jotuls realy where Giants, how should it help to get them arrested. Even if they lost everything, they lived for thousends of years. What are 20-40 years for them. They could just start all over.
@@Darksigilprod666 I hoped to see Laurits using any of Lokis abilitys and why was he afraid of Fyor? He should have been Immortal as Long as Fyor didn't had any of the weapons.
I normally can’t stand super fans bagging creative choices, but in this case, I have to agree. It was unpredictable, in the worst way. Now I’m left wondering why the old man is hanging out with the kids if it wasn’t for the sake of the final battle 🤷♀️
Yep…and why would Saxxa sleep with a schizophrenic comic book obsessed Magne? Even Signy saw them together, and they took a break over him buying a dress with Saxxa’s card. This was a piss poor cop out to avoid saying it was canceled.
@@smb161 apparently the director addressed this by saying, "Magne actually only met Saxa a few time," meaning the entire show Magne has actually just been a creepy stalker dude who dreams of sleeping with Saxa
True but why would Signy and Magne argue over buying an expensive dress? Did Magne just imagine the cashier calling someone on the phone and pretend to talk with Fjor about using the card? Did Magne just look like a schizo at the store? They don't address everything because it's ultimately a cop out in my opinion. Too many holes, and probably a cut budget. @@sturdyalpaca
@@smb161 I think they had almost finished making the season we wanted and then their budget got cut hard. Those scenes in Ragnarok may have been recorded for an actual ending battle, but because the show got cut they decided to instead use them for a, “he was just crazy” ending. Supreme bs right there, this was genuinely one of my favorite shows.
@@sturdyalpacathis is one of the things that bugged me the most. If hw never had a relationship with Saxxa then why the break up? And why did his mother accuse him of flaunting a new gf. If not only throws the fantasy out the window, but everything else as well.
Instead of an amazing battle scene, we got a dogshit of an ending! They had a good plot, a good actors and they absolutely butchered it at the end! Disappointed!
@@insidertech10 wokeness did not ruin it, while there was alot of it in the final season it can be relatively ignored in comparison to the larger plot, what ruined it was bad writing, this ending now recontextualizes the entire show, nothing we saw really happened, even though vidar is dead, even though wenche is dead, so much happened without an explanation. because the entire show wasnt just shot from magne's perspective we cant determine what the actual canon events were, the midgard serpent could be real and alive because we saw laurits, the giants and jens interact with it independently of magne. I also find it curious how we never got to see if harry had actually lost his arm at the end
Loki's entire character was just wasted in the last season, it makes me so mad. All the interesting stuff about him ended when Vidar died, and season three was just him and his boyfriend, and him feeding the snake. There was no character substance of him being Loki anymore, except for that one time he got the hammer. But the rest of the season, he was just boring. I expected much more. He was one of the most interesting characters in the first two seasons, but felt useless in the last one.
@@whatsyourname9581I felt that it would have been better if Saxa had been pregnant, which would have further split the groups: gods (Odin thinking a god/giant hybrid would be a bad thing), giants (wanting to kill all gods and half-gods) and people with Saxa, who doesn't want to fight but can't escape. This would have let Loki shine because he'd finally feel that he wouldn't be the only god/giant in the world. They could still have ended it with a truce, but the reason being more believable; that the new baby would usher in a new world where giants and gods can live/work together.
I’m honestly blown away, upset, and at the same time very thankful for the ending, as I have a loved one that has been in a psychosis. One of the things they have said to me after finally coming out of psychosis is that they are devastated to have gone through all of that only to discover it wasn’t real. This disappointment at the shows ending gives me a small glimps into that feeling. And I’m blown away.
As someone who has gone through psychosis, I’ll admit they did a pretty good job at showing what psychosis is like, the main thing I found frustrating about the show is the fact that they didn’t make it the plot from the beginning, throughout the whole show I was expecting it to be about Norse mythology in modern times and I think everyone who was disappointed also thought the same thing.
@@Aboguabogait was very obvious that the giants were allegories for corporations that pollute without consequence. but the fact that there was no real world push back if it was all in magnes head makes one wonder why the one giant chic decided to be environmentally friendly
@@kindcolt2747 that’s how companies work, they have to adapt to customer concerns if not they can go bankrupt. I think the change was done to either protect the company or she had a genuine concern for the environment and made the change bc of that, either way the result is the same
Most amazing series I’ve ever seen. With having a family member with schizophrenia. This made me understand the mental illness more than I ever could living with a family member with this disease. I cried for days after watching the end of this series. It made me feel like I lived in that mental illness and the deception that everyone’s feeling that is how someone who suffers a mental illness feels on a daily basis. What a brilliant director and writer.
@@liamnelson7713 lolololz...yeah, as another comment mentions you have shows that have done the fake out and when you rewatch you see that it lines up, this REALLY doesn't...but I guess someone with schizo things arent adding up to them and they are imagining things that don't make sense...the question is if he's this much schizophrenic at such a high level how does he even function or is it just he has an overactive imagination and not full on hallucinating? Because those are different and being imaginative isnt the same as beinng schizo.
They had so much potential. The actors were all amazing, the visuals and cgi was great, and the writing was geniunely so underrated. If only they revised and rewrote the last season. It’s like if someone built their own custom Lamborghini, only to use it to drive to their job at dollar tree
I agree. I loved the first 2 seasons and couldn't wait for season three (waited YEARS) Then I binge watched it to my horror. The whole season 3 was deeply disappointing. The dialogue, the plot, etc. I found season 3 a real waste of time, though I'm glad the cast had work and income.
I think the ending is being misconstrued by the masses. As others are suggesting it might have all been real, and the final battle in Magnes head was just a glimpse of what was avoided. The breaking of the Ragnarok cycle. The final steps of Magne were a representation of Thor dying inside, and Magne regaining His own individual life again. I believe there are two ways to interpret this ending, so for my sanity lol, Im going to choose the latter
Just finished the finale and this is the interpretation that came through to me as well. I’m still processing how I feel about it, but overall not too worked up about it.
The ending took me completely by surprise, but I loved it. I thought it was brilliant and I liked how everything came together. I think it’s very illogical, though, because there are real events that happened that you cannot explain if you think the whole story was in Mange’s head. But I still liked it and I loved watching the actor who played Mange grow and develop into a man. That was pretty remarkable and impressive.
The ending reminded me of when I was doing essays in elementary school and not knowing how to close the story I had told, I said that the main character suddenly woke up and realized that it was all a dream. It was a trivial and disappointing ending.
You could also interpret the ending as the thor in magne is dead he is no longer thor and is just magne and now living a normal life. More likely the first option than this.
That’s what I thought. I believed the gods and giants spiritually had their battle and have now left their reincarnated bodies but we were all wrong I suppose.
Huge disappointment. If they went for all this schizophrenia thing, they should have explained everything better at the end but they failed miserably at this. For example, if Wotan turned out to be Magne's psychiatrist, then it would make at least a bit of sense. Otherwise, we see a final scene where a 70-year old on a wheelchair is chilling and drinking bear with teenagers like he's their peer, which just seems so weird.
@@ElsowrdClips122 since ep 6 happens to be the conclusion and e explanation behind everything, I’m sadly afraid this means they fucked up the whole series. I mean how could I rewatch it or suggest it knowing that scenes like Laurits seeing Loki in the mirror despite Magne altered perception not being there makes 0 sense for instance?
Or they could've shown it as the main theme of the series. A boy battling with schizo, struggling to find what is real and what is not. In the process, people around him becomes affected until they unintentionally becomes the characters in his mind.
Yup, not to mention that he is in a schizo state the entire series for years and it just stops once he graduated? O.o? There aren't hint throughout where he is going in and out or lucidity...how can he function if for the entire time he was hallucinating? It might mean there's some other stuff going on that they have yet to reveal to explain things...and yeah all the characters being pretty much how they are wouldn't make sense...they'd have to play different roles that the show didn't explain for this to work. SOunds like a rush job or they did it this way in hopes to get a season 4 but that didnt happen.
I chose to see it a different way. It COULD be that it was all in his head but it also could be that it really was a manifestation of RAgnarok that continues to repeat itself throughout generations but this time it was different. Becuase Thor chose peace, we get a glimpse of what could have been and, perhaps, already was in other iterations of Ragnarok, but we also see what we get instead (the happy parts). The theme seemed, in the end, to be centered around love. With that in mind, when Magne/Thor chose love instead of violence (Laurits' / Jens' love as an example) we get a different outcome. We get the happy ending as the true outcome and the glimpse of what was avoided through Magne's imagination. Ran's interaction with the therapist at the ceremony leads me to believe that her converations were all real. Vidar really did die. Isolde died. I do believe that they were all manifestations of their god/giant counterparts but simply chose a different ending. The serpent venom and the 9 steps wasn't Magne snapping out of his delusion as much as it was "Thor" dying and leaving Magne to be himself again.
@@aditisk99yes I hope this to be true. It couldn't all be in his head. The last fight was in his head and thats it. Otherwise it has way too many plotholes and not enough hints. The ending is still a letdown. In the end I would like to know what really is true. Did Hodor not shoot an arrow? But he must have been a thing if everything else is not in Magnes Head. It is so confusing.
This was my thought as well, and I really hope youre right. It was a fantastic show, to leave it on the ending suggested here and by others would just be a shame.
@thefrozenfire659 The battle would've taken place if he actually shot but that was his imagination. Whatever happened before that seems real. Him taking nine steps and kneeling at the end was him letting go of Thor. A lot of things couldn't be just his imagination.
In the end Magna was not wearing glasses and was still certifiably diesel in physique. I think it was all real, but he imagined what the final battle would have been, because it was time to move on and find a new passion. Or maybe I am interpreting it that way to prevent disappointment.
That would make more sense than him just being a regular mentally unstable human....things about the other characters wouldn't make sense either...but yeah, i think he was probably as u say imagining how ragnarok would have played out int a different timeline had he not chosen peace OR he was actually visioning it and the other characters are still giants and gods but they not as powerful so they cant see into alternate timelines...its like dr strange seeing 14 million outcomes with the time stone...magne was probably catching a glimpse of one outcome.
Or magne could've stopped the arrow from killing laurits's bf sacrificing himself or just stopping it midway without hurting anyone truly defying a prophecy even if it happened before in the old days. Writers just tossed their brain outta window with no good reason at all. Killed the series instead of leaving a decent legacy smh
I dont think it was all in his head. I think he was reflecting on what would of happened if Ragnarok did happen and is glad he made the right choice and now coming to terms that he doesnt have to be thor anymore. It's hard to believe its in his head and that he killed the father and broke in to their home and threatened everyone and even the principle confessed it all to the school counselor.
I honestly am disappointed in the ending to this series. We the audience were invested in this series called Ragnarok for the connection to Norse mythology, and the idea that elements of Norse mythology might have just been in Magne's head just makes it feel like the audience wasted their time watching the series. While the Ragnarok battle was clearly not real and just a metaphorical battle that Magne needed to fight to move on, I just feel like everything else that happened for most of the series was real. If it wasn't, then Ragnarok would have been a waste of a series.
As a Swede, and like 9% Norwegian. I think it was fantastic. Us nords don't usually make highly unrealistic movies, or shows. And while what happened in season 1 and 2 could've happened in real life, it was nice that they explained it as Magne's hallucinations. A troubled young man who read comics through his life, who also happened to have a very vivid imagination that somehow drifted away a bit too far. I was actually relieved by the last episode, it felt grounded.
I interpreted the ending a little differently. Magne, through his choice, avoided war and thus avoided Ragnarok (the end of the world). But, Ragnarok was already written, already destined to happen, so technically it couldn't be avoided. Whenever you change events that were prophesied to happen and inevitable, you create an alternate timeline where those events do actually happen because they MUST happen. Magne read the prophecy in the comic and then was able to now see the events playing out in the alternate timeline. Similar to how the stones and smoking the herbs allowed him to see a possible future before. Magne saw Ragnarok happen to alternate versions of himself and his friends but only in a different reality. And that battle played out simultaneously during the graduation ceremony. Magne could even feel the pain his alternate self experienced.
Ugh... when I first started this series it felt haunting and it was interesting too. Giving the whole saga a new perspective in the modern world. It was building up pretty well and I was really looking up to seeing what would happen in the third season. Already knew it would be the last one, so had high hopes. Men, för fan... I would kinda get the letting go of the weapons and try to seek peace, but in the last episode it having be just a fantasy in Magne's head due to his "madness" is just not right. It was a huge letdown for me since they already had been able to build up so much from the sagas. The fights before had so much power and meaning in them, so this end was just bad tbh. Like why? They got lazy or it was the whole purpose of it all along? I really had high hopes they would make a proper finale.. was not expecting any fancy Marvel/DC stuff there, but something more real and domestic. Too bad.. :(
It wasn’t all in head head thou… he was glimpsing a future where he didn’t choose peace and what would have happened if they never dropped their weapons. Magne broke the cycle of violence and chose peace which is ending we got is the real ending. What Magne was seeing was a glimpse of an alternate future.
@@eden20111 ehm jea everything was in his head...that is why everything is completely senseless because it is just a fantasy of a little broken boy and we don't know what really happened in the Serie the whole time.. that is why this series has killed itself with the end...there is no Ragnarök series... you can call this show fantasy boy but no one then would have watched it 😉
@@KingPravum 🥴I mean it’s really that obvious it wasn’t in his head, im not sure how ppl came up with that conclusion because it makes no sense whatsoever lmao
The last episode was called Ragnarok for a reason and lives up to it's name, not only an end to the show, but an end to Magma's hallucinations . It was a big let down to end the show this way
I don't get what you guys don't understand. I understood what was happening, and what was happening was just like Alice in the last Twilight film. She had vision, and that's exactly what Magne had. Both characters had visions about what would've happened if the war did take place. Everything was not hallucinations nor schizophrenia. It was all real. To explain further, the comics, they showed that because, as you know, comics are just fiction. He read it and that's how he got the vision. Because even though its fiction, that’s how the war would have happened if not by peace. We all saw how the real one ended, so it would not have made sense.
@@larrie9491If it was all hallucinations Vidar would of been with them at the end. Everyone found true love so war didn't have to happen. He had changed his destiny of being a hero and a warrior so it was a lot for him to take emotionally. He was Thor.
Alright this is my interpretation, maybe it's all a cycle and everything that we saw throughout the seasons did actually happen it's just so baseless to say that everything was in his head because if it was then there were multiple scenes in which Magne wasn't even present and it unfolded the way it did, usually if everything is in the protagonist's head we don't see any other point of views and even if we do they don't compliment rather they contradict the POV of the protagonist. What I believe is everything did happen even then final battle that was in Magne's head but it was not of this particular timeline if you know about Ragnarok it is a cycle that endlessly keeps on repeating itself. So the battle did actually took place but it was from an earlier cycle where the gods and giant killed themselves and because it didn't occur in this timeline Magne is just getting a vision of what happened before and what could have been had things unfolded in a different way. Honestly it's a farfetch but what can I say it's either this or everything was just batshit hallucination.
There are some versions where it's a repeating cycle, but that's not the most common interpretation. Nice try, but let's face it, the show was ruined. No recontextualizing saves it.
I understand you wanna look at it from a happier point of view, I get that, but if that was the case why were they pushing the "its not real" perspective so hard when Thor was seeing things. He was having a flashback of being diagnosed with Schizophrenia, getting the pills and not taking them, his mom saying its not real, and saying its all in his head. They were clearly pushing the, "It's all in his imagination" idea in the last episode. I appreciate the interpretation though.
i believe the show was meant to have another season, got cancelled and then this ending was a rushed rewrite. because there were loads of scenes where magne wasnt present and didnt have knowledge of these events
By having everything be in his head, they created a bunch of plot holes. If it was all Magne's imagination, then why did Wotan get arrested for breaking into the factory? Did Vidar really die from a heart attack? If so, then please explain the conversations between Ran and the Sindre where she says Magne killed Vidar. Was that supposed to be in Magne's head, too? What about Laurits giving birth to the Midgard Serpent? Was that in Magne's head as well? I personally think they botched the ending. The whole "it was in his/her mind" has been done enough times already. It would've been better to actually have an epic battle at the end. It's possible that all of it was real except for the final battle. But that also leaves plot holes as well, just not as many.
Everything has been done. Happy endings. Sad endings. There is only so much you can do in writing shows anymore that shocks the audience. Main characters dying? Check. Living happily ever after? Check. Everybody hyped this show up and now want to complain because it really didn't end the way they wanted lol. "We wanted a big battle between giants and gods". That too has been done before a million times over lol. I liked the reveal it was all in his head. Trust me, I know about shows with terrible endings. I watched GoT bury itself lol. This wasn't on that level tho. It was a small, Norwegian take on Norse mythology and mental health. Of course they're not going to give the shit away before the end. They have to make it look believable.
I think Magne did fight Vidar, only he must have died of a heart attack, not the axe. If he'd turned to dust then only Magne and Loki would know what happened to him, the others would simply see either a pile of dust or nothing, depending on if Magne cleaned it up. Saxa's mother even commented that she blamed Magne for his death, even though she decided not to involve the police.
@@ninshu412 GOT ending might not live up to the previous seasons but it was still leagues better than most shows...this is still worse...and everything hasn't been done...that said shocking or not shocking the audience isn't the point the point is sensible writing...its not about what happens its about HOW it happens. This sort of ending as u say has been done before and done better...the way this was done create serious plotholes and questions. Unless doing so it the goal cause 'everything sensible has been done' then okay. That said, this could work for a season end if there was a season 4 coming after.
@@hollywoodpineapple8337 I don't know. I put them in he same bracket. Nothing made sense in a show that otherwise made sense perfectly in earlier seasons compared to something that was never as big as GoT. This was just a random show on Netflix. I think failing at a GoT level of popularity compared to Netflix is much worse in the grand scheme of things. That's just my opinion tho. The Norse mythology has been played on a lot in recent pop culture. To have a twist, done before or not, is a nice break from this same story we've seen. We know how it starts and ends. Marvel's Thor, God of War 2018, Assassin's Creed: Valhalla, etc. All of these are stories based on Ragnarok. This show used that mythology and twisted it rather than tell the same exact story we all know and love.
The giants literally were such a let down. During the series they literally just changed eye colors. Hardly ever showing their strength. All of the murder scenes with Fjior were cut off after he manipulated them. It built up to this stand off that literally looked like a larping session. If this truly is Magnes imagination it truly is watered down. Your imagination is supposed to be bordering unrealistic or wildly out of this world. I was also disappointed in Signy for getting back with him. Magne also didn’t call down any lightning the entire season. We were all waiting on him to show his power separate from the hammer. Then the end really put any spark and anticipation out.
Literally!! It was so cringe it's hard to even describe. The standoff was just horrible. I was sitting there thinking- man im glad I didnt tell any of my friends that this show was amazing because I'd be embarrassed having to watch this with them lol
I agree we really didn’t get to see any of his powers he got the hammer in the last episode of the second season and we began this one with him not doing anything with it literally kept it on his bag like a strap lol. Major disappointing this season was
The giants really went downhill once Vidar died. They really scrapped Fjor's character development completely and made him a whackier version of his father, and their dynamics were only mildly interesting without him. What really puzzled me was how afraid they were of Magne and the last confrontation with the gods. Like yall are hundreds of years old, with centuries more of fighting experience and actual weapons. And now yall are afraid of one guy and his "army" of like six people with barely any fighting skills and only one real weapon that could kill you? Even in the second season, Fjor fought two people (their most skilled fighters) at once and got one of them to lose his hand. Them being so ridiculously afraid of being the 'minority' destined to die in this fight was absolutely unreasonable.
10000% a larping session. i literally said that to myself muliple time while watching especially the parts where the old dude just "assigned" people to be gods. like, ok you're gonna be thor and I'm gonna be odin etc 'meet us under the bridge for the finally battle k? and ask your mom to bring fruit snacks"
I don't think everything is in his head. How did his vision get better if it was all in his head? Why did all the characters from the story come together at the end for a meal if everything was just in his head? Also, keep in mind, he started showing his powers and strength even before meeting Isolde. Also, his strength was confirmed by outside sources. Remember when Magne ran to town in 30 minutes to get help for Isolde. A cop said that trip would take a normal person hours?
Agree 100%, how do they all know eachother for the final meal if it’s in magnas head?😂 how did vidar die? How did vidars dog die? The old lady from the first ever episode, walked to magna and stroked his head.. you see a spark in his eyes. The producers ruined this whole franchise. It doesn’t make sense
I have been reading opinions and like oficial reviews and they are clear about this: everything in the series was real, everything but the moment of the graduation when Magne starts thinking about how this war could had been, and what he has saved by avoiding war
I can only think that this was a executive somewhere at netflix telling ragnarok to change its way to not encurage this way of life and makes norse mythology just a big joke. that is my take on it, just like the abrupt ending of the deathnote anime. remember, in netflix, evil is good and good is evil, therfore, thor is evil and needs to die like the rest and cancerous industries are good.
@@t5tr4p16 exactly, if he killed Vidar and he was not a god he committed murder? I dont think they thought it trough fully, it reminds me of the series Merlin, where it just eneded abruptly.
Vidar had a heart attack, as how his death was explained outside of his imagination.. I'd love the explanation of how that house magically changed to normal after he threw away the comics. If it wasn't all in his head, what's the point of that scene? Maybe they drank together because they were all trying to help him with his schizophrenia and the celebration was partly because he was returning to normal
The scene where magne is throwing out the comic books, the Juutul house changes completely between shots, confirming it was all fabrication as well. Very very disappointing.
So what about the old people who were murdered in season 3? Or all the events surrounding loki? That was not part of Magne's fantasy. None of this makes sense. And im pissed.
They seriously could've just done an actual battle with suspense and the heroes prevail. It would've been basic af but better than what we got. I seriously can't believe they went this way with it. I was so freaking hyped for this season.
It is such a massive disappointment for me, I loved this show, I thought the modern take on Thor was really well done. The fact it might have been in his head makes so many elements of the story pointless, like why was Fjor going on a rampage in S3, it adds nothing to the story either way, if it was real then how can they be friends with a serial killer, if it wasn't then what did it add to the story? What about his glasses, he needed them before but he doesn't need them now? What about Magne and Saxa, he knew she was trying to trick him for the hammer, if this isn't true then why did they break up? Why did he turn into a total douche if the hammer wasn't real?
@@Filmyzaada good point, but did his imagination really go that far, seems a bit of a stretch to me. And it was a mute point anyway since it didn’t actually do anything.
@@Filmyzaada I think it has to be in his head. The serpent for one was forgotten about, it will grow bigger and bigger? Fjor was killing random people and now they are all friends? When it flashed back to the Wenche touching his head his eyes didn’t change colour. Thing is, so much of the show is pointless if it wasn’t real. I usually watch the entire series once the last one is released but I won’t bother this time.
How did he meet all the other characters in real life if it was in his head? He had no friends then becomes a magnet to weirdos ? Vidar died of an actual heart attack then ? How did magnes eyesight improve, get worse again and then improve again ? So many things made no sense
I'm confused cause if he was dreaming then why didn't he revert back to how he used to look at the end? Why didn't his eyesight go back? Did Ragnarok happen and everything reset? Did the gods and giants die and they went back to being human? So confused?
@@uxama6851it can’t be that way, because after he throws all the comics in the trash can we learn that the giants’ home was never real. The writers got lazy, because they just chose the easy way out: “Oh, it was all in his head”. Then why does Magne see without glasses? How come he got muscular without the gym? How did he forge the hammer? Why is he friends with Wotan and all the other gods if they were never gods and had no reason to speak to each other in the first place? Was it a collective Schizophrenia? C’mon… like, everyone is free to like anything, but you can’t tell me that this finale makes sense, bro. It’s a lazy way to conclude a series by simply saying that it was all in the protagonist’s head. What about all the private conversations that the giants had in their mansion? All those scenes of Saxa, Vidar, Fjor and Ran fighting with knives, eating hearts, etc.? What about the time Laurits ate the heart or injected Odin’s blood in his veins? What about the scene when he lets the snake go in the water in the end of season two? In all of these moments Magne wasn’t there, so how do the creators explain what we saw happening, and what other characters saw happening? Like the time when in season one the blonde girl (don’t remember her name at the moment) saw Vidar basically throwing Fjor back and forth in the living room? Was that in Magne’s head too?
@@marvelking182 this is exactly the point ive been making to everyone, it cant be in magne's head because it wasnt all shot from his perspective, other characters acted independently of him and made their own decisions
For anyone else trying to interpret the ending as Magne avoiding Ragnarok and breaking the cycle of violence between the Gods and Giants, the show's director confirmed that the true ending is unfortunately the one we see on screen- everything was a product of Magne's imagination/mental illness after dealing with the death of his father and best friend.
Then I'd want to see this whole series form the viewpoint externally now knowing about Magne's mental issues to see how things REALLY went down with the other characters, cause soooo many questions pop up with this being all in his head.
The only thing they did right was showing what recovering as a schizophrenic is like but the buildup and the whole shows description is about Thor not a kid who imagines he’s Thor. It would’ve made a great series if they would’ve showed a story of a schizophrenic believing he was Thor and run with it all the way through instead of making it the twist at the last episode. The whole show I thought it was really about Thor and everyone doubting him was only doubting him because they really could not understand. Because his brother ended up believing him and the random dude that saw the serpent also believed him. Also what was that scene of fjor and magnes fighting in the abandoned building? The only way I can see that scene making sense under the ending was fjor being abusive towards gry or they were about to get down and magnes just imagined the fight. There’s too many holes with the ending they went with
I didn't mind the ending. It made me very emotional. We all have our own internal Ragnaroks to fight, but we should always choose to live and love and move on. That is what the ending meant to me.
I wouldn’t mind if it was all in his head. But they don’t connect the dots, it makes no sense. Too many things happen that actually has to have happened or there’s no way to explain the relationships, murders and things like that. If you’ve seen for example “shutter island” or “sixth sense” then you know the difference of meaning for a movie to reveal a big truth in the end and you got completely fooled, and this crap. If you watch the movies again that truth doesn’t contradict anything in the movie, it was always there. This thing all being in Magnes head does contradict almost everything. It feels like a last minute solution of how to end the series. If they meant for this ending in the beginning they would have seen to it so there would be no contradictions.
@@TheIngis88I don’t think it’s contradicting but it does blur the lines between real and fantasy what actually happens. did he actually kill the father ? Did him and saxa actually dated ?but at the end and at the beginning it mention his schizophrenia which being schizo is actually this leaving in your own reality making things up .people wanna talk about representation well this some real life representation a boy battling a real life problem and not being aware of it only realizing it at the end and moving on from it dropping the flower and Thor dying was him dropping the hammer and letting go/killing the believe inside of him that he was Thor .in the end the point was that we are all battling our own ragnorak but we have to learn to move on an Take the first step forward or should I saw the first 9 steps forward
I binge watched this show over days... and I finished the last episode and just stared baffled, yelling at the screen: "WHAT!? WHAT!? Really!?" The whole "it was all in his head" and "it was all a dream" is a cop out so bad in writing that, even though I am a bad writer in my own right, not even I would dare employ. I just am so furious about this. I LOVED the show. Instantly hooked but, season 3 felt strange, rushed, and like something was going on. That final episode was just, I guess, fan service? Just to please those who wanted to see Ragnarok then stabbing us all with: HA HA! It was in his head! ............ ~insert Charlie Brown screaming "AAAAARGH!" here~
The twist ending felt tacked on in a hurry with many inconsistencies- note that Wotan and heimdall quit alcohol but are shown throwing back beers in the last scene... and thats the smallest plot hole.
As I look back and think about my own experiences in high school, I do remember thinking some people were larger than life. And how it's easy to imagine this epic battle between good and evil being fantasized about, especially for a shy, new kid who is deeply insecure. Interesting spin, but I'd personally rather have seen the battle play out and the carnage. Much more interesting story that way.
So many core things that are now just loose ends. Vidar, the old lady, the fact he got his friend and her little coworker fired, the dog he killed, what was laruses real pet cause a tape worm wouldn't live weeks without a host? Also fjor then became a complete waste of a character going from asshole rich brat to being redeemed and falling for the blond girl, to deciding to be an asshole again threaten the gov and then quit and give control back to saxa...what was the point of him staying then? Just alot of issues if you watch the graduation episode. Stop at the truce.
Throw this show into the dustbin and forget it existed. It makes no sense because there are scenes where Magne isn't even present and supernatural things occur.
Honestly this finale makes no sense: after he throws all the comics in the trash can we learn that the giants’ home was never real. The writers got lazy, because they just chose the easy way out: “Oh, it was all in his head”. Then why does Magne see without glasses? How come he got muscular without the gym? How did he forge the hammer? Why is he friends with Wotan and all the other gods if they were never gods and had no reason to speak to each other in the first place? Was it a collective Schizophrenia? C’mon… like, everyone is free to like anything, but you can’t tell me that this finale makes sense. It’s a lazy way to conclude a series by simply saying that it was all in the protagonist’s head. What about all the private conversations that the giants had in their mansion? All those scenes of Saxa, Vidar, Fjor and Ran fighting with knives, eating hearts, etc.? What about the time Laurits ate the heart or injected Odin’s blood in his veins? What about the scene when he lets the snake go in the water in the end of season two? In all of these moments Magne wasn’t there, so how do the creators explain what we saw happening, and what other characters saw happening? Like the time when in season one the blonde girl (don’t remember her name at the moment) saw Vidar basically throwing Fjor back and forth in the living room? Was that in Magne’s head too? The finale tries to be something so deep and meaningful when, in reality, it’s very dull and empty and leaves WAY too many questions unanswered. In my opinion, the ceremony sequence with the visions of Ragnarok could’ve been a good ending without the Schizophrenia stuff. Like, we see that we’re approaching a new era, and that’s okay, but let me see what happens in the future: older versions of the protagonists fighting the final battle in their battle armors and it all ends with Thor’s death. That would’ve been an excellent finale, even if they didn’t want to have a big battle for budget or whatever other reason. Instead we got this… so disappointing
@@jarru0868oh yeah, okay, so Laurits feeding the snake by the lake was all in Magne’s imagination, even if he didn’t know the snake was real and had grown so much. Frigga and Ran talking about how the giants will be defeated and then Ran shooting that arrow at her was also in his head, even if he didn’t know what was happening. Saxa tellin Fjor to kill Gry, otherwise she would’ve done it, him leading Gry to the abandoned warehouse to kill her, that was all in his head. The giants using Saxa as a slave, Fjor telling Ran the hammer was his… everything that Magne didn’t know was happening, because it happened without him present, that too was all in his head? C’mon, dude…
@@marvelking182 That's not really something unexplainable. There's a difference between the real Magne and the Magne in his head. The Magne in his head didn't know all that, the real Magne did know it. Almost the entire show is about the Magne of the story in his head, so he acts according to the story. All the scenes where Magne isn't present could just be a way to give more context to the show and a good way to keep the thing going on from the producers standpoint. Your concerns mentioned in your last comment aren't unexplainable.
the ending makes no sense because: 1: Magne Killed VIDAR But Where is Vidar in the final Scene of them at the table 2: the Kid got shot in the eye but if its all in magne's head who the Hell Shot him 3: How you gonna explain Vidar Vs Magne near the Docks 4: Why is everybody going along with it, Plus Who Killed isolde Because Vidar killed isolde but if everything was in his head then isolde shouldn't be dead and Vidar should BE FUCKING ALIVE. SO FUCKING MANY HOLES IN SEASON 3'S ENDING
I'm honestly torn about what to believe about the ending. I does feel like it was all in his head, but at the same time what do we make of the scenes Magne wasn't in where there were clear supernatural elements. Were these all in his head or is it maybe that the final battle was in his head because he went against what he was supposed to do?
If you're disapointed, it's because you're like Magne and need fiction to escape reality. The message in the end is directly for you, you need to grow up.
Everything happened but when Magne and the Gods chose peace with the Giants to defy the ragnarok, the manifestation of the Norse myth left. I suspect it has different interpretation from each character, in Magne it's a " all in his head situation "
I remember thinking it was a hole in the story that Vidar disintegrated, yet they had a public announcement of his death and a funeral. Wouldn’t he have been declared missing without a body? Now it makes sense. The way Netflix cancels shows, I’m just glad we got an ending.
@@julianseguin2748 do they own their own crematorium? You see what I am saying about other parties needing to be involved before someone is declared dead, McFly?
I thought the ending was that they stopped the war from happening again and wrote their own fate this time. This ending just confuses the audience, What was real and what was not
What I don't understand is how the other characters fit into this. If every scene only followed Magne's perspective it would make sense (no less disappointing but still) but we saw other characters doing their own thing while Magne wasn't present. The Giants for example discussing their ancient pasts, Laurits injecting himself, Fjor showing his eyes to Gry and her being shocked before Magne arrived and Laurits injecting himself with Wotan's blood and having different colored eyes and his abnormally large tapeworm. Unless I'm misremembering several details and Magne was there for these scenes I'm not sure how this gets explained. Was everything shown literally Magne imagining what he believed was happening whenever he wasn't there? If so that makes even less sense from a storytelling perspective.
I liked the end. I binge watched whole season 3 and i find it nice to find out everyone is at peace and happy instead of everyone dead. Also we got the epic final battle anyway , even if it was just in Magne's head, so i don't understand the disappointment.
I dont think it was so much the death of his friend that sent him over the edge, but returning to the place where his father died, or maybe before. The old lady touching his head s1 ep1, and his eyes glowing with lightning seems to be the start of the delusion. At any rate, it was a great show to watch, but in typical neflix fashion, the ending season was kind of a letdown. I guess we should be happy it got a final season
you know what's even weirder and doesn't add up? Ran talking in confidential about the story to her colleague, which actually validates that the story must be true and the ending about Magne then just don't seem true.🤔
I have quite a different interpretation. what if it was all real up until they decided to break the myth cycle and stop Ragnarok. During the graduation ceremony, each death Magne imagines represents the ´´detachment´´ of the mythological character from the person. In the end we got normal people living normal lives.
The ending just makes everything more confusing and hard to believe that’s it’s all in his head. He met all these people on his journey but if it’s all in his head they should all mostly be strangers, not sharing a drink like pals. The mom looked at the window seeing him walk off seeming like he’s being cooped up in the house playing out this fairy tale so how did he get close to all these people. Furthermore they never truly hinted at his mental instability, rather they played into it one way or the other which doesn’t bring a good light to mental illness 🤷♂️
I felt so disappointed. You are left with a lot of questions which will remain unanswered. Such as did Magne actually kill Vidar ? How did wenche die ? A total letdown 😭
I was a huge fan of the series, and waiting 2 years for the final season, just for everything to turn out to be part of Magne's imagination, hasn't sat well on me. As you said, this series deserved way better 😢
I agree! I waited TWO YEARS in anticipation. The whole third season left me disappointed and a little PO'd. I didn't even get the deep sense of the beauty of nature of the environment of the location in 3 that I got from the previous two.
I was so excited to see him in his full prime as Thor. Imagine watching all 3 seasons just to have an ending this terrible. It’s like the writers disappeared and they had to come up with some ending for the sake of it.
My interpretations watching it was that the events had all transpired. But as peace was struck, ragnarok was in the end avoided. Though, ragnarok being so fatebound still manifested as an echo of itself, playing out to the point of compelling the people to look at eachother, flinch or act subconciously whilst only thor truly saw the echo of what was foretold in it’s fullest. As ragnarok was avoided, the incarnation of the gods, and their purpose in the play of destiny came to an end, and the nine steps showed us magne realizing that thor, and his fight, had come to an end. So magne was reborn, the fight in the past, and as such, the forces that drove the incarnation faded, returning the world to a non spiritual state.
As a non scandinavian person, i was very interested to see another side to norse mythology as popularized by the Marvel series. It got me hooked so bad and i had to marathon previous episodes cause it was very interesting at first. After seeing season 3, i believe these were the longest 6 episodes of my life, the story was dragging, the hammer changed his personality, the way he reconciled with the fellow gods seem a bit shallow. His girlfriend Signy ddnt really contribute to his character development. All that preparation and scenes with the very bad CGI serpent are gone to waste. Forest enlightenment with Wotan was not so deep or moving. I feel the series had no direction, no fight scenes, no justice for the ones wronged by the giants. Loki's character should have been given more emphasis too, i think his character did not have a very significant importance. The scenes from the graduation ceremony and the so called fight in his head was not clearly explained. The kid with the arrow was not explained well. It was a vague ending and maybe the producers and writers should just stop. They really messed it up. I do not recommend this series at all.
I took it as Magne was seeing what could have been if they had chosen war instead of peace. It was a bit of a disappointing ending but I guess it’s how the individual viewer wants to see it.
It feels like a cop out. And I have no idea what actually happened. Did he just go to school and come home every day and have this dillusion the whole time? What happened to the one giant he killed? Did none of that happen? Why is everyone OK with a 17 or 18 year old dating his older secretary? So are the rich people just assholes but not giants? Too many questions but overall really disappointing.
Yeah, his band of gods lost a hand, did get arrested for trespassing, gave birth to Little O, etc and if it was all in his head why were they all together celebrating together? What does the mechanic have to do with him? How did he actually lost hand hand? Little O is fake? Didn’t eat ducks or a few people? Felt like another Quiet Quitting job by writers and director. Wonder how the cast feel about the ending?
After seeing this, the ending is actually more clear and makes a lot more sense. Ragnarok didn’t center on the events of Ragnarok, it’s center focus and a plot point it touched on, was the political stances of the weak and poor, going against the strong and rich. The main story was the political battle and used Ragnarok to help it, signifying that if the peace isn’t reached, the end of the world will happen. Think about it, if the rich wins, then we’ll all die of poisons and pollution, dangerous foods, etc. while if the poor wins then we’ll all die because there’s no structure in place and chaos will ensue. There HAS to be that peace between the two classes, and this gets dignified really well in Ragnarok. I LOVED the mental trip at the end with the end of the world happening at graduation, it wasn’t the actual end of the world, it was the end of HIS world, he finally had to grow up, and start stepping into reality; yes his trauma is still there but this game he’s been playing has come to an end. He made his friends, he met those who helped him, he United people, and that’s the point, to show that even the smallest person can help spark a massive group movement. Ragnarok was honestly really good, the symbolism was amazing and I loved it. I genuinely give it a 7/10, it was good, wonderful, buuuut I can’t see myself watching it again, the seasons were too short, it felt like more could have been done, but I’m happy with what we got
i actually really liked that ending it showed what could have been aswell as what was better, through all their struggles throughout the show, in the end they managed to break the cycle of destruction and dared to see eachother as equals. the ending really was beautiful. i think people that didnt like it are over analysing, or created their own fantasy for how it should have ended. i enjoyed the story and the journey. the ending really was beautiful, the emotions portayed in those last minutes was amazingly well done. it deserves more appreciation. i hope others enjoyed it as much as i did.
How was kid Magne even reading comics in English when we all know that he has dyslexia… How come other people saw his powers and commented on it ( The cop girl when he ran, Erik when he saw him push the car, Laurits and the baseball bat). Why would Vidar’s dog go after him? People having discussions about Magne being a God in private. There are dozens of examples like this. And the Director confirmed it was a mental breakdown ( could have been a different timeline but no). So they pull it out of nowhere at the last moment. It was already a bit too woke for me but anyways: Movie jail for the creative of this show.
Honestly watching it when the kids arrow hit 'Bauldr' I thought "oh here we go, this is gonna be epic!". Literally 10 seconds later I just thought "is this seriously what they're doing?!"
Agreed. I would watch and re-watch the first two seasons, because it was great. I'm left with the same question. What happened and what didn't? Especially as they ARE all a tight group. If they weren't on a mission as God's, what were they at, if he made it all up?
It was a good ending tough, first season implies about the schizophrenia by his mother tells him to take his pills. Before revealing the illness, his mother is summing the adventure and how he got over it. Great show with or without the ending!
Guess I am the only one who found the ending beautiful. Magne stepped out of his fantasy world and moved into real life where he has a beautiful girlfriend and friends waiting for him. I thought it was a breath of fresh air compared to many other tv shows that just keeps milking the show until there is nothing left and it starts feeling boring or slow or they just add another season that makes no sense. The tv show was entertaining from start until end for me and Its a show I will remember for sure.
I would agree with you if only the story made sense that way. When you accept that everything happened in Magne's head you will notice that practically nothing about the story makes any sense, and you'll realise you no longer know what truly happened, and that you don't actually know any of the characters at all. It's almost as if we simply had 17 episodes of disjointed dreams, and then a reveal that the main character was just asleep and he wakes up to meet all his friends and family who we've only seen in dreamy fantasy scenes, but we really know nothing about them. It kind of robs us of the supposed profundity of it all.
I like the way it ended. I think it stuck to reality and not some grandiose MCU bullshit. Not all these superhero shows need silly “epic” endings with cheesy quotes and pretentious drama.
As someone who was fully invested into this show I was extremely disappointed in the last episode. The fact that they turned this show into a mental health thing at the last episode is insane. Why couldn’t they just do this from the start. Instead of wasting and misleading the viewers time into thinking we were watching a mythology tv series. Smh
All those viewers who were expecting an actual battle with the expected ending are just too comfortable in their thinking. Of course it can be disappointing after suffering with Magne and feeling all his frustration and grief for Isolde‘s death. But with this truly unexpected plot twist, the series reveals far more than just an usual coming-of-age story. All the development that Magne is going through is quite plausible because almost everyone of us knows it. It is understandable that he tried to compensate all these things with his imagination, since many things today can no longer be explained rationally and certainly cannot be understood. In any case, I personally had already felt a huge confusion in the penultimate episode of the final season when the battle agreed upon with the giants was suddenly canceled by Magne. From this point I had a premonition that the rest of the story would not end as expected. However, what raises a very specific question for me is the whereabouts of Vidar. As far as I can tell, once the whole story turned out to be Magne's fantasy, he wasn't seen at all. So you didn't see him at the graduation party, nor in the last minutes of the final "real" scenes. So wasn't he real from the start and did he only represent the ultimate evil for Magne? I was already wondering at the funeral service for Vidar how the Jutul family managed to hold a fake funeral ceremony with an empty coffin.
I think people misunderstood the ending completely with the hallucinations. Isolde's death brought grief and was an internal struggle that prevented him accepting reality. Ragnarok is purgatory where the giant's and gods clash endlessly in a final battle that does not actually end. When he chose to broker peace between the giants and leave the hammer behind he was able to choose LOVE and finally move on. The final shot is in honor of Valhalla where the champions drink at the table together both giants and god's are sitting side by side as equals. We get a glimpse of Isolde giving cheers to him as she fades showing us that he can move on. I know people expecting an epic confrontation of crazy fighting but this ending was actually beautiful if you understood it.
Thank you for the review! I couldn’t even get through season 2 so I’m glad I didn’t waste my time… it felt an American Gods level of disappointment by that point
What did you think of the series finale?
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I loved the ending and the entire season
I am so disappointed!
@@michelledickson7022 why it was awesome
I think the series got off to a great start and ended in the worst way possible, though I liked that at least this came to an end unlike other Netflix originals
If it was all in his head how did Vidar die. Or is he still alive and he's not shown anymore?Besides season 3 major disappointment.
After 3 years of watching this show and waiting for the last season after watching the ending I can’t help but feel empty as someone who been a fan since it came out and rooted for it to succeed just for it to end like that how disappointing
Now you know my pain
Same
Thank u. All that built up for nothing 😅. It was Hella disappointing to be honest
Same. I started watching all the way back in 2020 when it came out. I just finished watching it 5 minutes ago and I’m furious
Can't get out of it
What’s frustrating is that the final season has all the right pieces but couldn’t put it together.
I think they could have reunited Magna and Signi at the end of episode 5 in season 3 and it would be all good for me but that he is caught up in a trauma and everything was imagined is pretty disappointing😢
@@DerNoo-Noo I was expecting Signi to be Sif, and that she and Magna were meant to be together. However, Magna dies fighting the serpent, and the last scene of the series is Signi and Saxa glaring at each other during his funeral, as they protectively hold their pregnant bellies. Thus, Magna will live on in his children.
@@colinpreston80same dude! I was a hundred percent sure she was Sif! Because I thought “Why are they introducing this secondary character that we’ve never seen right during the season where we’re supposed to see the new gods appear?”
MAJOR disappointment fr
This show was Ass
All the pieces except the one where they show it was all in his head.
The worst apart about the ending is that all the scenes of his ragnarok vision were so badass. Some great shots and cgi. They could’ve easily ended it with that.
Yes I kinda liked the fact that the battle didn’t have marvel/dc choreography, and it was something more simple, just a bunch of very powerful people stabbing each other to death, it had a gritty and realistic feel, but they managed to ruin it with the schizophrenia thing
YESSS, I totally agree, also their acting was amaaazing, but what the heck the creators did with the story?? Unbelievable. And they could ended it even with the peace part, it would had make more sense at least
@@colemacgrath2005 Absolutely. The battle was awesome, but because it was all fake there was zero weight to it, zero tension. I kinda want to know what actually happened, what was the real story behind the schizophrenia? Did he actually have a relationship with Saxa?
@@samyalayse8945 exactly, they could´ve shown ragnarok as a vision of the future and then magne chooses to prevent it with the cease fire, and end the show there
were not.
The biggest problem for me (apart from the ending) is not knowing what was real. How did Vidar really die? All of the fights they had. Majority of the friends he made at the table in the end, were made in his imagination - So how come they're still there and still friends? How did they actually meet.
I think every friend he made during that time he made into a god in his head so they couldn't (likely) die and he wouldn't lose anyone else to either death or them simply drifting apart since they were called together by fate.
no the majority of the friends he made were from the hospice or the streets lol... besides Laurits and Jens
Right
if they wanted to put that on us really planned from the start they would have done a this is what really happened at those times montage for sure. for me that is proof that it wasnt planned since they didnt shoot those scenes. If you pull the switcheroo like that you need a sixth sense montage
@@thomaswelvaert i couldn't agree more
I absolutely LOVED this show. And then the ending ruined everything. I feel so bad for us fans receiving such a poor finale.
Amen!!! Best show in a long time and the worst ending they could've come up with 😢,, it really leaves fans pissed and unsatisfied in a major way
My reaction when it was almost ending was literally “is this seriously how it’s going to end?”
Terrible way to leave an audience. Screenplay writing at its worst to take your viewers on a visual trip that only took place in the 'mind' is very disappointing. If there was a 4th season I wouldn't wach it.
I actually skipped through that imaginary fight in frustration. Unreal how they completely destroyed this show in the 3rd season.
No cap 🧢😅
As soon as he took out those young thor magazines i was like "no fucking way, they cant do this to me" and they did. They really used an elementary school twist and threw whole series down the drain. 3rd season overall was mid, but all the build up for this epic battle for nothing, what a shame
It ended like it ran, stupid. Thor was a real pussy crying every show, and dumb as a box of rocks getting people killed with his stupid actions and statements, it was totally unbelievable. Season 2 was even worse than 1, completely crazy. I wanted to like this show but it was the worst telling of the old pantheon I have ever seen. Everyone acted like they were retarded or something, but Thor/Magne man what a tool.
The whole “schizophrenia” angle doesn’t explain why the headteacher didn’t involve the police when magne brutally murdered her husband if they weren’t actually giants. It doesn’t explain a lot of things, it’s like they fired the writer at the last episode and got some random guy off the street to finish writing it.. such a disappointment.
He obviously didn’t murder him and created all of it in his head. But aside of that, I agree. It’s not clear what’s real and what’s not in the series.
It really felt like the ending was “just stop being schizophrenic and grow up” which is just… why. So I’m gonna choose to interpret it literally any other way 😅
@@lukaposeidon8490 I actually kind of like that lol. It kind of put us in Magne's head the entire time until we also realize it was all in his head. I get the approach for sure. They had to make it feel real so when this reveal came, we would start questioning what was real and what wasn't. Let's be real, there are many, many movies, shows, games, etc. about Ragnarok. Would everyone really be okay with the obvious? We've seen it and heard it so many times done in different ways, but the same outcome lol.
I think that Magne did fight the father, but instead of dying on the axe, the father had a heart attack.
Saxa's mother mentioned that "he died of a heart attack" and, to her therapist, that Magne had killed her husband but she didn't want to get the police involved, out of understanding for his illness.
Her supposedly telling her therapist everything about being a giant and trying to kill her daughter was either Magne unreliable narrative (he's not actually there) or probably more her venting the wild accusations that Magne had been making against her family in a joking manner.
Remember: I think the principle is talking to the therapist as a friend, not a patient, because if she were his patient, then him asking her out would be a breach of ethics.
If the father really turned to dust, then how would his family know he'd died? They'd either come home to a pile of ash against the wall and not know what it is, or Magne could have cleaned up the dust, and they'd not know where he went. Either way, the whole town knew he was dead the next day.
@@aussiewanderer6304 Definitely going to do a rewatch. Knowing what we know now, I think we'd probably be able to understand it a little bit better. Assuming this was always the direction they wanted to go and not a last second thing.
Feels like the ending of a show that got canceled even though it wasn't.
@renucis2998
my first thought exactly
couldnt agree more
😂😂😂accurate
Yeah, Im trying to understand was this an abrupt cancellation where the writes didn't know or was it only given 3 seasons? I know netflix likes to give few seasons then cancel for certain reasons but this ending could be fine if a season 4 was gonna happen and there was more involved...
Just finished it. Completely let down. Feel like I spent 4 days preparing food and finding out it wasn't even real food the entire time. Now I'm hungry and annoyed...
yup...
Omg this is just the best description of how i feel right now.
This finale is like JK Rowling making Harry wake up in his bed under the stairs at the end of the last film 💀💀💀💀
Nah, it's somehow worse than that. It would be like if harry woke up at the end of the final book from a dream, went to kings cross station and want into a pub called 'the hogwarts express' where he saw Ron, Draco, hagrid, hermione and the rest of them waiting for him to have a beer. Like, if it's all fake how did he meet all these people. The whole story was about them bonding over their lives so who the fuck really are these ppl now if it wasn't real
exactly😂😂😂😂😂
Thats scary to even imagine. My whole childhood has allowed Harry to be real.
@@0Fate8Bound0 exactly it's so confusing and to leave so many things unanswered questions is ending appeared on a thin air and it just slapped you in the face
What thats the real end??
I thought the schizophrenia angle was for the characters to think Magne was crazy as he continued the fight against the giants. I’m mad I watched 3 seasons for it all to be in his head.
we all did because thats how they framed it, they gave no evidence to support the idea that is was actually in his head
Yah, I agree.
Also fior , killed innocent people without paying..
But get a sexy gf ... Wtf
@@iberomorecianberber1411and I guess there’s just a giant Midgard serpent lurking about
It can’t have been in his head, why would the boy have the injury in his eye? Why would they all be friends? Why would Fjor be hanging out with the gods? Why would Saxa have dated Magne? That can’t be made up by him because why else would Signy say that he’s been hurting her? It doesn’t make any sense.
Vidar having a heart attack could actually be true. But the entire therapy storyline can’t be imagined because Magne didn’t know anything about it.
I was actually expecting better. The season finale was indeed a big disappointment. It was very weak and it seems as if the writers/production team took the easy way out.
True but somehow the way they directed it, atleast there was some kind of stupid closure . Better than latest MCU movies and tv series still
writers/production team wow they suck at a story line
Easy way out?
Dude choosing to show that everything was only in his head while showing the fight AND his inner battle is not 'easy way out'.
Specially considering the people behind the show are Scandinavian themselves...
It's a baller move... Kind of like an Indian show depicting ramayan as just a story reimagined by a mental patient... There is going to be hate everywhere
@@Geraldo_Rivianbro you must not watch a lot of movies/tv that was most certainly lazy writing. Let’s make a comparison of the “all in head” cop out. Take Joker (2019) for example, they made it all in his head, but it was thought out correctly and foreshadowed throughout the entire movie. It’s more precise and structured. In Ragnarok, it just felt as if they didn’t know how to end it and there was no real masterful writing, red hearings, foreshadowing just nothing.
@@davionbanks883 oh no... a movie geek....
Go out and touch grass Mr Critic.
I feel scammed, the whole season went nowhere for most of the episodes in my opinion. It truly makes me sad that this ended like this, I started watching the show when it came out and I just feel kinda empty after knowing the truth.
Same here
Ikr nothing happened, we went from Thor to some mental kid carrying a hammer n kissing it
Exactly
Adam Price wrote this. He should be embarrassed.
I don’t believe all this was in his head at all. I believe everything from season 1 to present did in fact happen. What Magne was seeing was PAST EVENTS but with a modern day filter. He was actually viewing Ragnarok that happened in the past and how that path of violence ended both the giants and gods. But in present day, for the first time in history Thor ended the cycle of violence and chose peace. Remember Magne is a reincarnation of Thor. I believe what we saw in the ceremony was Magne unlocking all of his memories of his past life and viewed the war he fought with the giants but with a modern day filter hence the clothes they are wearing. I mean it makes sense.
yah but sadly homie it doesnt matter what we believe in, the writers made it shown that it was. sad ending, very bad ending, but you cant overun the facts here.
@@JonesnzStill I think the interpretation is up to the viewer
What you just explained makes no sense aren't there other people supposed to be Reincarnation of other gods how come they're not seeing this too how come Thor/Magner and all the other reincarnations of old gods just ignore the fact that this happened and they're like hallucinating Thor/Magner next door was like physically acting with the World serpent why were none of the other old gods doing that my disappointment is immeasurable
@@SebastianWitt well I mean that just that just stupid that is just stupid nothing else in the show was up to the viewer to make an opinion about it like why this is the so confusing and disappointing
The ending seemed as if it was originally meant to be leading into a 4th season but the development for it was cancelled and therefore required a quick rewrite to wrap up the show at the end season 3
That has to be what happened. A very half-arsed way of doing it too.
There where Problems before. If the Jotuls realy where Giants, how should it help to get them arrested. Even if they lost everything, they lived for thousends of years. What are 20-40 years for them. They could just start all over.
@@TheIhplodur very true. Either way, this show had a ton of promise but just left me feeling unfulfilled.
@@Darksigilprod666 I hoped to see Laurits using any of Lokis abilitys and why was he afraid of Fyor? He should have been Immortal as Long as Fyor didn't had any of the weapons.
I normally can’t stand super fans bagging creative choices, but in this case, I have to agree. It was unpredictable, in the worst way. Now I’m left wondering why the old man is hanging out with the kids if it wasn’t for the sake of the final battle 🤷♀️
Yep…and why would Saxxa sleep with a schizophrenic comic book obsessed Magne? Even Signy saw them together, and they took a break over him buying a dress with Saxxa’s card. This was a piss poor cop out to avoid saying it was canceled.
@@smb161 apparently the director addressed this by saying, "Magne actually only met Saxa a few time," meaning the entire show Magne has actually just been a creepy stalker dude who dreams of sleeping with Saxa
True but why would Signy and Magne argue over buying an expensive dress? Did Magne just imagine the cashier calling someone on the phone and pretend to talk with Fjor about using the card? Did Magne just look like a schizo at the store? They don't address everything because it's ultimately a cop out in my opinion. Too many holes, and probably a cut budget. @@sturdyalpaca
@@smb161 I think they had almost finished making the season we wanted and then their budget got cut hard. Those scenes in Ragnarok may have been recorded for an actual ending battle, but because the show got cut they decided to instead use them for a, “he was just crazy” ending. Supreme bs right there, this was genuinely one of my favorite shows.
@@sturdyalpacathis is one of the things that bugged me the most. If hw never had a relationship with Saxxa then why the break up? And why did his mother accuse him of flaunting a new gf. If not only throws the fantasy out the window, but everything else as well.
Instead of an amazing battle scene, we got a dogshit of an ending! They had a good plot, a good actors and they absolutely butchered it at the end! Disappointed!
Wokeness reaked through out season 3 pathetic season and ending
@@nidheeshkumar6760yeah I agree wokeness ruined it
if you want a epic battle you can watch thor bro.
@@egeozturk483we were watching Thor, bro 😂
@@insidertech10 wokeness did not ruin it, while there was alot of it in the final season it can be relatively ignored in comparison to the larger plot, what ruined it was bad writing, this ending now recontextualizes the entire show, nothing we saw really happened, even though vidar is dead, even though wenche is dead, so much happened without an explanation. because the entire show wasnt just shot from magne's perspective we cant determine what the actual canon events were, the midgard serpent could be real and alive because we saw laurits, the giants and jens interact with it independently of magne. I also find it curious how we never got to see if harry had actually lost his arm at the end
I will mentally end it at Balder getting hit with the arrow and Loki looking menacingly. That was freakin badass.
That should have been the end, that was the twist we needed. I was ready for war to just break out, but no 😒
Loki's entire character was just wasted in the last season, it makes me so mad. All the interesting stuff about him ended when Vidar died, and season three was just him and his boyfriend, and him feeding the snake. There was no character substance of him being Loki anymore, except for that one time he got the hammer. But the rest of the season, he was just boring. I expected much more. He was one of the most interesting characters in the first two seasons, but felt useless in the last one.
@@whatsyourname9581I felt that it would have been better if Saxa had been pregnant, which would have further split the groups: gods (Odin thinking a god/giant hybrid would be a bad thing), giants (wanting to kill all gods and half-gods) and people with Saxa, who doesn't want to fight but can't escape.
This would have let Loki shine because he'd finally feel that he wouldn't be the only god/giant in the world.
They could still have ended it with a truce, but the reason being more believable; that the new baby would usher in a new world where giants and gods can live/work together.
I would take Episode 5 as the Ending of the Story.
Wouldve been a great cliffhanger for season 4
I’m honestly blown away, upset, and at the same time very thankful for the ending, as I have a loved one that has been in a psychosis. One of the things they have said to me after finally coming out of psychosis is that they are devastated to have gone through all of that only to discover it wasn’t real. This disappointment at the shows ending gives me a small glimps into that feeling. And I’m blown away.
As someone who has gone through psychosis, I’ll admit they did a pretty good job at showing what psychosis is like, the main thing I found frustrating about the show is the fact that they didn’t make it the plot from the beginning, throughout the whole show I was expecting it to be about Norse mythology in modern times and I think everyone who was disappointed also thought the same thing.
@@Aboguabogait was very obvious that the giants were allegories for corporations that pollute without consequence. but the fact that there was no real world push back if it was all in magnes head makes one wonder why the one giant chic decided to be environmentally friendly
@@kindcolt2747 that’s how companies work, they have to adapt to customer concerns if not they can go bankrupt. I think the change was done to either protect the company or she had a genuine concern for the environment and made the change bc of that, either way the result is the same
Most amazing series I’ve ever seen. With having a family member with schizophrenia. This made me understand the mental illness more than I ever could living with a family member with this disease. I cried for days after watching the end of this series. It made me feel like I lived in that mental illness and the deception that everyone’s feeling that is how someone who suffers a mental illness feels on a daily basis. What a brilliant director and writer.
dam maybe, writers were trying to put us in that position with the plot holes that came from it because i’m definitely questioning my sanity right now
@@liamnelson7713 lolololz...yeah, as another comment mentions you have shows that have done the fake out and when you rewatch you see that it lines up, this REALLY doesn't...but I guess someone with schizo things arent adding up to them and they are imagining things that don't make sense...the question is if he's this much schizophrenic at such a high level how does he even function or is it just he has an overactive imagination and not full on hallucinating? Because those are different and being imaginative isnt the same as beinng schizo.
What a fantastic show, what a horrific ending. This is up there with top 3 biggest letdowns. I am talking GoT level
I loved the show. I wouldn't say it was as good as GoT though, but the fumble was just as bad for sure. I agree with that part.
Nothing can compare to the GoT letdown
Nah. Nothing can beat GOT
Tell you didn't understand the story at all without telling me
agreed !!
They had so much potential. The actors were all amazing, the visuals and cgi was great, and the writing was geniunely so underrated. If only they revised and rewrote the last season. It’s like if someone built their own custom Lamborghini, only to use it to drive to their job at dollar tree
I agree. I loved the first 2 seasons and couldn't wait for season three (waited YEARS) Then I binge watched it to my horror. The whole season 3 was deeply disappointing. The dialogue, the plot, etc. I found season 3 a real waste of time, though I'm glad the cast had work and income.
I think the ending is being misconstrued by the masses. As others are suggesting it might have all been real, and the final battle in Magnes head was just a glimpse of what was avoided. The breaking of the Ragnarok cycle. The final steps of Magne were a representation of Thor dying inside, and Magne regaining His own individual life again. I believe there are two ways to interpret this ending, so for my sanity lol, Im going to choose the latter
Cope imo
This doesn't work at all... Explain how the building changed back to normal after he threw away the comics then?
Just finished the finale and this is the interpretation that came through to me as well. I’m still processing how I feel about it, but overall not too worked up about it.
@@Ryan-wx1bi Yeah exactly, the jutul house changing proves it is all in his head
@@Ryan-wx1biwhich building changed ?
The ending took me completely by surprise, but I loved it. I thought it was brilliant and I liked how everything came together. I think it’s very illogical, though, because there are real events that happened that you cannot explain if you think the whole story was in Mange’s head. But I still liked it and I loved watching the actor who played Mange grow and develop into a man. That was pretty remarkable and impressive.
The ending reminded me of when I was doing essays in elementary school and not knowing how to close the story I had told, I said that the main character suddenly woke up and realized that it was all a dream. It was a trivial and disappointing ending.
You could also interpret the ending as the thor in magne is dead he is no longer thor and is just magne and now living a normal life. More likely the first option than this.
That would have been a better ending and honestly what I thought they were going for initially while I was watching the real shit show play out
Same. This is what i thought of in the first place.
@@fluff5800 I did too. But it really let the viewers down.
That’s what I thought. I believed the gods and giants spiritually had their battle and have now left their reincarnated bodies but we were all wrong I suppose.
But he does not wear glasses in the final scenes !
Huge disappointment. If they went for all this schizophrenia thing, they should have explained everything better at the end but they failed miserably at this. For example, if Wotan turned out to be Magne's psychiatrist, then it would make at least a bit of sense. Otherwise, we see a final scene where a 70-year old on a wheelchair is chilling and drinking bear with teenagers like he's their peer, which just seems so weird.
Exactly. They didn’t even bother to give us all the explanations…like the constant snake feeding and the scenes with Magne missing
it just twists my head trying to find an explanation but I guess with bad writing this just isnt possible. They fucked up episode 6. Thats it
@@ElsowrdClips122 since ep 6 happens to be the conclusion and e explanation behind everything, I’m sadly afraid this means they fucked up the whole series. I mean how could I rewatch it or suggest it knowing that scenes like Laurits seeing Loki in the mirror despite Magne altered perception not being there makes 0 sense for instance?
Or they could've shown it as the main theme of the series. A boy battling with schizo, struggling to find what is real and what is not. In the process, people around him becomes affected until they unintentionally becomes the characters in his mind.
Yup, not to mention that he is in a schizo state the entire series for years and it just stops once he graduated? O.o? There aren't hint throughout where he is going in and out or lucidity...how can he function if for the entire time he was hallucinating? It might mean there's some other stuff going on that they have yet to reveal to explain things...and yeah all the characters being pretty much how they are wouldn't make sense...they'd have to play different roles that the show didn't explain for this to work. SOunds like a rush job or they did it this way in hopes to get a season 4 but that didnt happen.
I chose to see it a different way. It COULD be that it was all in his head but it also could be that it really was a manifestation of RAgnarok that continues to repeat itself throughout generations but this time it was different. Becuase Thor chose peace, we get a glimpse of what could have been and, perhaps, already was in other iterations of Ragnarok, but we also see what we get instead (the happy parts). The theme seemed, in the end, to be centered around love. With that in mind, when Magne/Thor chose love instead of violence (Laurits' / Jens' love as an example) we get a different outcome. We get the happy ending as the true outcome and the glimpse of what was avoided through Magne's imagination.
Ran's interaction with the therapist at the ceremony leads me to believe that her converations were all real. Vidar really did die. Isolde died. I do believe that they were all manifestations of their god/giant counterparts but simply chose a different ending. The serpent venom and the 9 steps wasn't Magne snapping out of his delusion as much as it was "Thor" dying and leaving Magne to be himself again.
Exactly.
@@aditisk99yes I hope this to be true. It couldn't all be in his head. The last fight was in his head and thats it. Otherwise it has way too many plotholes and not enough hints. The ending is still a letdown. In the end I would like to know what really is true. Did Hodor not shoot an arrow? But he must have been a thing if everything else is not in Magnes Head. It is so confusing.
This was my thought as well, and I really hope youre right. It was a fantastic show, to leave it on the ending suggested here and by others would just be a shame.
@thefrozenfire659 The battle would've taken place if he actually shot but that was his imagination. Whatever happened before that seems real. Him taking nine steps and kneeling at the end was him letting go of Thor. A lot of things couldn't be just his imagination.
This is what I choose to believe, it being the alternative storyline playing out if he hadn't made the truce in the former episode...
In the end Magna was not wearing glasses and was still certifiably diesel in physique. I think it was all real, but he imagined what the final battle would have been, because it was time to move on and find a new passion. Or maybe I am interpreting it that way to prevent disappointment.
That would make more sense than him just being a regular mentally unstable human....things about the other characters wouldn't make sense either...but yeah, i think he was probably as u say imagining how ragnarok would have played out int a different timeline had he not chosen peace OR he was actually visioning it and the other characters are still giants and gods but they not as powerful so they cant see into alternate timelines...its like dr strange seeing 14 million outcomes with the time stone...magne was probably catching a glimpse of one outcome.
@@hollywoodpineapple8337agreed 💯 about the possibility of what you said about the Dr strange reference.
Or magne could've stopped the arrow from killing laurits's bf sacrificing himself or just stopping it midway without hurting anyone truly defying a prophecy even if it happened before in the old days. Writers just tossed their brain outta window with no good reason at all. Killed the series instead of leaving a decent legacy smh
I dont think it was all in his head. I think he was reflecting on what would of happened if Ragnarok did happen and is glad he made the right choice and now coming to terms that he doesnt have to be thor anymore. It's hard to believe its in his head and that he killed the father and broke in to their home and threatened everyone and even the principle confessed it all to the school counselor.
Director said it’s all in his head.
Bro…I’ve been forcing myself to believe the same exact thing by the same exact points…but let’s face it….this is happening apparently
Where can I see this?@@WinstonSmithGPT
Thank you so much for making this video. I’m so glad I wasn’t the only one who was disappointed with that ending.
Ur a disappointment
I honestly am disappointed in the ending to this series. We the audience were invested in this series called Ragnarok for the connection to Norse mythology, and the idea that elements of Norse mythology might have just been in Magne's head just makes it feel like the audience wasted their time watching the series. While the Ragnarok battle was clearly not real and just a metaphorical battle that Magne needed to fight to move on, I just feel like everything else that happened for most of the series was real. If it wasn't, then Ragnarok would have been a waste of a series.
I really liked the show. Ending was so disappointing
I agree
Same
As a Swede, and like 9% Norwegian. I think it was fantastic. Us nords don't usually make highly unrealistic movies, or shows. And while what happened in season 1 and 2 could've happened in real life, it was nice that they explained it as Magne's hallucinations. A troubled young man who read comics through his life, who also happened to have a very vivid imagination that somehow drifted away a bit too far. I was actually relieved by the last episode, it felt grounded.
I interpreted the ending a little differently.
Magne, through his choice, avoided war and thus avoided Ragnarok (the end of the world). But, Ragnarok was already written, already destined to happen, so technically it couldn't be avoided. Whenever you change events that were prophesied to happen and inevitable, you create an alternate timeline where those events do actually happen because they MUST happen.
Magne read the prophecy in the comic and then was able to now see the events playing out in the alternate timeline. Similar to how the stones and smoking the herbs allowed him to see a possible future before.
Magne saw Ragnarok happen to alternate versions of himself and his friends but only in a different reality. And that battle played out simultaneously during the graduation ceremony. Magne could even feel the pain his alternate self experienced.
Ugh... when I first started this series it felt haunting and it was interesting too. Giving the whole saga a new perspective in the modern world. It was building up pretty well and I was really looking up to seeing what would happen in the third season. Already knew it would be the last one, so had high hopes. Men, för fan... I would kinda get the letting go of the weapons and try to seek peace, but in the last episode it having be just a fantasy in Magne's head due to his "madness" is just not right. It was a huge letdown for me since they already had been able to build up so much from the sagas. The fights before had so much power and meaning in them, so this end was just bad tbh. Like why? They got lazy or it was the whole purpose of it all along? I really had high hopes they would make a proper finale.. was not expecting any fancy Marvel/DC stuff there, but something more real and domestic. Too bad.. :(
Jea agree..now there is no point in these series because it is just a fantasy of a little kid.....
It wasn’t all in head head thou… he was glimpsing a future where he didn’t choose peace and what would have happened if they never dropped their weapons. Magne broke the cycle of violence and chose peace which is ending we got is the real ending. What Magne was seeing was a glimpse of an alternate future.
@@eden20111 ehm jea everything was in his head...that is why everything is completely senseless because it is just a fantasy of a little broken boy and we don't know what really happened in the Serie the whole time.. that is why this series has killed itself with the end...there is no Ragnarök series... you can call this show fantasy boy but no one then would have watched it 😉
@@KingPravum 🥴I mean it’s really that obvious it wasn’t in his head, im not sure how ppl came up with that conclusion because it makes no sense whatsoever lmao
@@eden20111 jea this is why this complete series makes no sense because it was just a fantasy in a head of a little boy....
The last episode was called Ragnarok for a reason and lives up to it's name, not only an end to the show, but an end to Magma's hallucinations . It was a big let down to end the show this way
Ah yes Magma man, i miss Squidward
I don't get what you guys don't understand. I understood what was happening, and what was happening was just like Alice in the last Twilight film. She had vision, and that's exactly what Magne had. Both characters had visions about what would've happened if the war did take place. Everything was not hallucinations nor schizophrenia. It was all real. To explain further, the comics, they showed that because, as you know, comics are just fiction. He read it and that's how he got the vision. Because even though its fiction, that’s how the war would have happened if not by peace. We all saw how the real one ended, so it would not have made sense.
@@larrie9491If it was all hallucinations Vidar would of been with them at the end. Everyone found true love so war didn't have to happen. He had changed his destiny of being a hero and a warrior so it was a lot for him to take emotionally. He was Thor.
The actor confirmed it was all Magne's schizophrenia, unfortunately.@@larrie9491
@@cocksprocket exactly! Thank you!
Alright this is my interpretation, maybe it's all a cycle and everything that we saw throughout the seasons did actually happen it's just so baseless to say that everything was in his head because if it was then there were multiple scenes in which Magne wasn't even present and it unfolded the way it did, usually if everything is in the protagonist's head we don't see any other point of views and even if we do they don't compliment rather they contradict the POV of the protagonist.
What I believe is everything did happen even then final battle that was in Magne's head but it was not of this particular timeline if you know about Ragnarok it is a cycle that endlessly keeps on repeating itself. So the battle did actually took place but it was from an earlier cycle where the gods and giant killed themselves and because it didn't occur in this timeline Magne is just getting a vision of what happened before and what could have been had things unfolded in a different way.
Honestly it's a farfetch but what can I say it's either this or everything was just batshit hallucination.
There are some versions where it's a repeating cycle, but that's not the most common interpretation. Nice try, but let's face it, the show was ruined. No recontextualizing saves it.
I understand you wanna look at it from a happier point of view, I get that, but if that was the case why were they pushing the "its not real" perspective so hard when Thor was seeing things. He was having a flashback of being diagnosed with Schizophrenia, getting the pills and not taking them, his mom saying its not real, and saying its all in his head. They were clearly pushing the, "It's all in his imagination" idea in the last episode.
I appreciate the interpretation though.
@@bdkiddwhy was ran telling the therapist all about gods and giants then
Yours was better than the actual ending :(
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Amen
i believe the show was meant to have another season, got cancelled and then this ending was a rushed rewrite. because there were loads of scenes where magne wasnt present and didnt have knowledge of these events
By having everything be in his head, they created a bunch of plot holes. If it was all Magne's imagination, then why did Wotan get arrested for breaking into the factory?
Did Vidar really die from a heart attack? If so, then please explain the conversations between Ran and the Sindre where she says Magne killed Vidar. Was that supposed to be in Magne's head, too?
What about Laurits giving birth to the Midgard Serpent? Was that in Magne's head as well?
I personally think they botched the ending. The whole "it was in his/her mind" has been done enough times already. It would've been better to actually have an epic battle at the end.
It's possible that all of it was real except for the final battle. But that also leaves plot holes as well, just not as many.
Everything has been done. Happy endings. Sad endings. There is only so much you can do in writing shows anymore that shocks the audience. Main characters dying? Check. Living happily ever after? Check. Everybody hyped this show up and now want to complain because it really didn't end the way they wanted lol. "We wanted a big battle between giants and gods". That too has been done before a million times over lol. I liked the reveal it was all in his head. Trust me, I know about shows with terrible endings. I watched GoT bury itself lol. This wasn't on that level tho. It was a small, Norwegian take on Norse mythology and mental health. Of course they're not going to give the shit away before the end. They have to make it look believable.
I think Magne did fight Vidar, only he must have died of a heart attack, not the axe.
If he'd turned to dust then only Magne and Loki would know what happened to him, the others would simply see either a pile of dust or nothing, depending on if Magne cleaned it up.
Saxa's mother even commented that she blamed Magne for his death, even though she decided not to involve the police.
@@ninshu412 GOT ending might not live up to the previous seasons but it was still leagues better than most shows...this is still worse...and everything hasn't been done...that said shocking or not shocking the audience isn't the point the point is sensible writing...its not about what happens its about HOW it happens. This sort of ending as u say has been done before and done better...the way this was done create serious plotholes and questions. Unless doing so it the goal cause 'everything sensible has been done' then okay. That said, this could work for a season end if there was a season 4 coming after.
@@hollywoodpineapple8337 I don't know. I put them in he same bracket. Nothing made sense in a show that otherwise made sense perfectly in earlier seasons compared to something that was never as big as GoT. This was just a random show on Netflix. I think failing at a GoT level of popularity compared to Netflix is much worse in the grand scheme of things. That's just my opinion tho. The Norse mythology has been played on a lot in recent pop culture. To have a twist, done before or not, is a nice break from this same story we've seen. We know how it starts and ends. Marvel's Thor, God of War 2018, Assassin's Creed: Valhalla, etc. All of these are stories based on Ragnarok. This show used that mythology and twisted it rather than tell the same exact story we all know and love.
The giants literally were such a let down. During the series they literally just changed eye colors. Hardly ever showing their strength. All of the murder scenes with Fjior were cut off after he manipulated them. It built up to this stand off that literally looked like a larping session. If this truly is Magnes imagination it truly is watered down. Your imagination is supposed to be bordering unrealistic or wildly out of this world. I was also disappointed in Signy for getting back with him. Magne also didn’t call down any lightning the entire season. We were all waiting on him to show his power separate from the hammer. Then the end really put any spark and anticipation out.
Literally!! It was so cringe it's hard to even describe. The standoff was just horrible. I was sitting there thinking- man im glad I didnt tell any of my friends that this show was amazing because I'd be embarrassed having to watch this with them lol
I agree we really didn’t get to see any of his powers he got the hammer in the last episode of the second season and we began this one with him not doing anything with it literally kept it on his bag like a strap lol. Major disappointing this season was
The Gods, specifically Magne and Laurits are not much different.They were so bland and unlikeable.
At least the Giants are pleasant to look at LMAO.
The giants really went downhill once Vidar died. They really scrapped Fjor's character development completely and made him a whackier version of his father, and their dynamics were only mildly interesting without him.
What really puzzled me was how afraid they were of Magne and the last confrontation with the gods. Like yall are hundreds of years old, with centuries more of fighting experience and actual weapons. And now yall are afraid of one guy and his "army" of like six people with barely any fighting skills and only one real weapon that could kill you? Even in the second season, Fjor fought two people (their most skilled fighters) at once and got one of them to lose his hand. Them being so ridiculously afraid of being the 'minority' destined to die in this fight was absolutely unreasonable.
10000% a larping session. i literally said that to myself muliple time while watching especially the parts where the old dude just "assigned" people to be gods. like, ok you're gonna be thor and I'm gonna be odin etc 'meet us under the bridge for the finally battle k? and ask your mom to bring fruit snacks"
I don't think everything is in his head.
How did his vision get better if it was all in his head?
Why did all the characters from the story come together at the end for a meal if everything was just in his head?
Also, keep in mind, he started showing his powers and strength even before meeting Isolde. Also, his strength was confirmed by outside sources. Remember when Magne ran to town in 30 minutes to get help for Isolde. A cop said that trip would take a normal person hours?
Agree 100%, how do they all know eachother for the final meal if it’s in magnas head?😂
how did vidar die?
How did vidars dog die?
The old lady from the first ever episode, walked to magna and stroked his head.. you see a spark in his eyes.
The producers ruined this whole franchise. It doesn’t make sense
I have been reading opinions and like oficial reviews and they are clear about this: everything in the series was real, everything but the moment of the graduation when Magne starts thinking about how this war could had been, and what he has saved by avoiding war
I can only think that this was a executive somewhere at netflix telling ragnarok to change its way to not encurage this way of life and makes norse mythology just a big joke. that is my take on it, just like the abrupt ending of the deathnote anime. remember, in netflix, evil is good and good is evil, therfore, thor is evil and needs to die like the rest and cancerous industries are good.
@@t5tr4p16 exactly, if he killed Vidar and he was not a god he committed murder? I dont think they thought it trough fully, it reminds me of the series Merlin, where it just eneded abruptly.
Vidar had a heart attack, as how his death was explained outside of his imagination.. I'd love the explanation of how that house magically changed to normal after he threw away the comics. If it wasn't all in his head, what's the point of that scene?
Maybe they drank together because they were all trying to help him with his schizophrenia and the celebration was partly because he was returning to normal
The scene where magne is throwing out the comic books, the Juutul house changes completely between shots, confirming it was all fabrication as well. Very very disappointing.
Yep, all in his head
So what about the old people who were murdered in season 3? Or all the events surrounding loki? That was not part of Magne's fantasy. None of this makes sense. And im pissed.
They went missing while they went to their hike
This kind of ending should ONLY be in movies, not series where you have to wait years for an ending...
They seriously could've just done an actual battle with suspense and the heroes prevail. It would've been basic af but better than what we got. I seriously can't believe they went this way with it. I was so freaking hyped for this season.
It is such a massive disappointment for me, I loved this show, I thought the modern take on Thor was really well done. The fact it might have been in his head makes so many elements of the story pointless, like why was Fjor going on a rampage in S3, it adds nothing to the story either way, if it was real then how can they be friends with a serial killer, if it wasn't then what did it add to the story?
What about his glasses, he needed them before but he doesn't need them now? What about Magne and Saxa, he knew she was trying to trick him for the hammer, if this isn't true then why did they break up? Why did he turn into a total douche if the hammer wasn't real?
Fjor was killing people and feeding it to the giant serpent, So it becomes ready to take on magna(thor)
@@Filmyzaada good point, but did his imagination really go that far, seems a bit of a stretch to me.
And it was a mute point anyway since it didn’t actually do anything.
@@NotTheMaestro yeah ending is shit, and doesn’t clarify whether everything was in his head or just the war that didn’t take place
@@Filmyzaada I think it has to be in his head. The serpent for one was forgotten about, it will grow bigger and bigger? Fjor was killing random people and now they are all friends? When it flashed back to the Wenche touching his head his eyes didn’t change colour. Thing is, so much of the show is pointless if it wasn’t real. I usually watch the entire series once the last one is released but I won’t bother this time.
How did he meet all the other characters in real life if it was in his head? He had no friends then becomes a magnet to weirdos ? Vidar died of an actual heart attack then ? How did magnes eyesight improve, get worse again and then improve again ? So many things made no sense
I'm confused cause if he was dreaming then why didn't he revert back to how he used to look at the end? Why didn't his eyesight go back? Did Ragnarok happen and everything reset? Did the gods and giants die and they went back to being human? So confused?
All happened except the final battle. Magne Imagined it. They made peace in the final. I personally liked the ending and overall the whole season.
@AP-gy5oy so are u saying he got muscles and blonder hair just bcs of his imagination
@@j.e.u.b5772Read that again he's saying all of that happened except the final battle which was magnes imagination after they made peace
@@uxama6851it can’t be that way, because after he throws all the comics in the trash can we learn that the giants’ home was never real. The writers got lazy, because they just chose the easy way out: “Oh, it was all in his head”. Then why does Magne see without glasses? How come he got muscular without the gym? How did he forge the hammer? Why is he friends with Wotan and all the other gods if they were never gods and had no reason to speak to each other in the first place? Was it a collective Schizophrenia? C’mon… like, everyone is free to like anything, but you can’t tell me that this finale makes sense, bro. It’s a lazy way to conclude a series by simply saying that it was all in the protagonist’s head. What about all the private conversations that the giants had in their mansion? All those scenes of Saxa, Vidar, Fjor and Ran fighting with knives, eating hearts, etc.? What about the time Laurits ate the heart or injected Odin’s blood in his veins? What about the scene when he lets the snake go in the water in the end of season two?
In all of these moments Magne wasn’t there, so how do the creators explain what we saw happening, and what other characters saw happening? Like the time when in season one the blonde girl (don’t remember her name at the moment) saw Vidar basically throwing Fjor back and forth in the living room? Was that in Magne’s head too?
@@marvelking182 this is exactly the point ive been making to everyone, it cant be in magne's head because it wasnt all shot from his perspective, other characters acted independently of him and made their own decisions
For anyone else trying to interpret the ending as Magne avoiding Ragnarok and breaking the cycle of violence between the Gods and Giants, the show's director confirmed that the true ending is unfortunately the one we see on screen- everything was a product of Magne's imagination/mental illness after dealing with the death of his father and best friend.
Then I'd want to see this whole series form the viewpoint externally now knowing about Magne's mental issues to see how things REALLY went down with the other characters, cause soooo many questions pop up with this being all in his head.
The only thing they did right was showing what recovering as a schizophrenic is like but the buildup and the whole shows description is about Thor not a kid who imagines he’s Thor. It would’ve made a great series if they would’ve showed a story of a schizophrenic believing he was Thor and run with it all the way through instead of making it the twist at the last episode.
The whole show I thought it was really about Thor and everyone doubting him was only doubting him because they really could not understand. Because his brother ended up believing him and the random dude that saw the serpent also believed him. Also what was that scene of fjor and magnes fighting in the abandoned building? The only way I can see that scene making sense under the ending was fjor being abusive towards gry or they were about to get down and magnes just imagined the fight.
There’s too many holes with the ending they went with
Thank You so much for preventing me frm wasting my time watching this final season
lol my thoughts exactly
Same fuck this cop out 😂
You should watch it but stop at episode 5, because that episode has a more acceptable ending
I was definitely confused by the end was waiting for your video to explain this ending 😂💀
I didn't mind the ending. It made me very emotional. We all have our own internal Ragnaroks to fight, but we should always choose to live and love and move on. That is what the ending meant to me.
Wait that’s good I think you might be the one person actually getting it
Muppet !
Nah, this had big potential to actually be real and not magne’s mental health
I wouldn’t mind if it was all in his head. But they don’t connect the dots, it makes no sense. Too many things happen that actually has to have happened or there’s no way to explain the relationships, murders and things like that. If you’ve seen for example “shutter island” or “sixth sense” then you know the difference of meaning for a movie to reveal a big truth in the end and you got completely fooled, and this crap. If you watch the movies again that truth doesn’t contradict anything in the movie, it was always there. This thing all being in Magnes head does contradict almost everything. It feels like a last minute solution of how to end the series. If they meant for this ending in the beginning they would have seen to it so there would be no contradictions.
@@TheIngis88I don’t think it’s contradicting but it does blur the lines between real and fantasy what actually happens.
did he actually kill the father ? Did him and saxa actually dated ?but at the end and at the beginning it mention his schizophrenia which being schizo is actually this leaving in your own reality making things up .people wanna talk about representation well this some real life representation a boy battling a real life problem and not being aware of it only realizing it at the end and moving on from it dropping the flower and Thor dying was him dropping the hammer and letting go/killing the believe inside of him that he was Thor .in the end the point was that we are all battling our own ragnorak but we have to learn to move on an Take the first step forward or should I saw the first 9 steps forward
I binge watched this show over days... and I finished the last episode and just stared baffled, yelling at the screen: "WHAT!? WHAT!? Really!?" The whole "it was all in his head" and "it was all a dream" is a cop out so bad in writing that, even though I am a bad writer in my own right, not even I would dare employ. I just am so furious about this. I LOVED the show. Instantly hooked but, season 3 felt strange, rushed, and like something was going on. That final episode was just, I guess, fan service? Just to please those who wanted to see Ragnarok then stabbing us all with: HA HA! It was in his head! ............ ~insert Charlie Brown screaming "AAAAARGH!" here~
Why the fuck would they do this? Isnt it common knowledge that most people hate the "it was all a dream" ending?!?!?
The twist ending felt tacked on in a hurry with many inconsistencies- note that Wotan and heimdall quit alcohol but are shown throwing back beers in the last scene... and thats the smallest plot hole.
As I look back and think about my own experiences in high school, I do remember thinking some people were larger than life. And how it's easy to imagine this epic battle between good and evil being fantasized about, especially for a shy, new kid who is deeply insecure. Interesting spin, but I'd personally rather have seen the battle play out and the carnage. Much more interesting story that way.
This finale has brought back the same feelings I had with Lost 🙃
wym?
GOT: no one can fuck up a series more than us
Ragbarok: hold my beer
So many core things that are now just loose ends. Vidar, the old lady, the fact he got his friend and her little coworker fired, the dog he killed, what was laruses real pet cause a tape worm wouldn't live weeks without a host? Also fjor then became a complete waste of a character going from asshole rich brat to being redeemed and falling for the blond girl, to deciding to be an asshole again threaten the gov and then quit and give control back to saxa...what was the point of him staying then?
Just alot of issues if you watch the graduation episode. Stop at the truce.
Throw this show into the dustbin and forget it existed. It makes no sense because there are scenes where Magne isn't even present and supernatural things occur.
Honestly this finale makes no sense: after he throws all the comics in the trash can we learn that the giants’ home was never real. The writers got lazy, because they just chose the easy way out: “Oh, it was all in his head”. Then why does Magne see without glasses? How come he got muscular without the gym? How did he forge the hammer? Why is he friends with Wotan and all the other gods if they were never gods and had no reason to speak to each other in the first place? Was it a collective Schizophrenia? C’mon… like, everyone is free to like anything, but you can’t tell me that this finale makes sense. It’s a lazy way to conclude a series by simply saying that it was all in the protagonist’s head. What about all the private conversations that the giants had in their mansion? All those scenes of Saxa, Vidar, Fjor and Ran fighting with knives, eating hearts, etc.? What about the time Laurits ate the heart or injected Odin’s blood in his veins? What about the scene when he lets the snake go in the water in the end of season two?
In all of these moments Magne wasn’t there, so how do the creators explain what we saw happening, and what other characters saw happening? Like the time when in season one the blonde girl (don’t remember her name at the moment) saw Vidar basically throwing Fjor back and forth in the living room? Was that in Magne’s head too?
The finale tries to be something so deep and meaningful when, in reality, it’s very dull and empty and leaves WAY too many questions unanswered. In my opinion, the ceremony sequence with the visions of Ragnarok could’ve been a good ending without the Schizophrenia stuff. Like, we see that we’re approaching a new era, and that’s okay, but let me see what happens in the future: older versions of the protagonists fighting the final battle in their battle armors and it all ends with Thor’s death. That would’ve been an excellent finale, even if they didn’t want to have a big battle for budget or whatever other reason. Instead we got this… so disappointing
Yes, well explained 👍👍
because it was all in his head.. you dont understand?
@@jarru0868oh yeah, okay, so Laurits feeding the snake by the lake was all in Magne’s imagination, even if he didn’t know the snake was real and had grown so much. Frigga and Ran talking about how the giants will be defeated and then Ran shooting that arrow at her was also in his head, even if he didn’t know what was happening. Saxa tellin Fjor to kill Gry, otherwise she would’ve done it, him leading Gry to the abandoned warehouse to kill her, that was all in his head. The giants using Saxa as a slave, Fjor telling Ran the hammer was his… everything that Magne didn’t know was happening, because it happened without him present, that too was all in his head? C’mon, dude…
@@jarru0868 but how he cured his eyesight, how he got stronger without exercising. Isolde was also amazed how he could climb up to mountines so fast.
@@marvelking182 That's not really something unexplainable. There's a difference between the real Magne and the Magne in his head. The Magne in his head didn't know all that, the real Magne did know it. Almost the entire show is about the Magne of the story in his head, so he acts according to the story. All the scenes where Magne isn't present could just be a way to give more context to the show and a good way to keep the thing going on from the producers standpoint. Your concerns mentioned in your last comment aren't unexplainable.
the ending makes no sense because:
1: Magne Killed VIDAR But Where is Vidar in the final Scene of them at the table
2: the Kid got shot in the eye but if its all in magne's head who the Hell Shot him
3: How you gonna explain Vidar Vs Magne near the Docks
4: Why is everybody going along with it, Plus Who Killed isolde Because Vidar killed isolde but if everything was in his head then isolde shouldn't be dead and Vidar should BE FUCKING ALIVE.
SO FUCKING MANY HOLES IN SEASON 3'S ENDING
This!
5.Magne getting hit by a snowplower with no injuries
6.the parts where magne wansnt there, is he omnipresent ?
I'm honestly torn about what to believe about the ending. I does feel like it was all in his head, but at the same time what do we make of the scenes Magne wasn't in where there were clear supernatural elements. Were these all in his head or is it maybe that the final battle was in his head because he went against what he was supposed to do?
If you're disapointed, it's because you're like Magne and need fiction to escape reality. The message in the end is directly for you, you need to grow up.
Everything happened but when Magne and the Gods chose peace with the Giants to defy the ragnarok, the manifestation of the Norse myth left. I suspect it has different interpretation from each character, in Magne it's a " all in his head situation "
once again this gets 3 seasons but 1899 couldn’t even get 3 months
I remember thinking it was a hole in the story that Vidar disintegrated, yet they had a public announcement of his death and a funeral. Wouldn’t he have been declared missing without a body? Now it makes sense.
The way Netflix cancels shows, I’m just glad we got an ending.
The jutuls cremated him.
@@dansoler3877 personally?
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Uh, DUH.
We saw the funeral.
@@julianseguin2748 do they own their own crematorium? You see what I am saying about other parties needing to be involved before someone is declared dead, McFly?
I thought the ending was that they stopped the war from happening again and wrote their own fate this time. This ending just confuses the audience, What was real and what was not
What I don't understand is how the other characters fit into this. If every scene only followed Magne's perspective it would make sense (no less disappointing but still) but we saw other characters doing their own thing while Magne wasn't present. The Giants for example discussing their ancient pasts, Laurits injecting himself, Fjor showing his eyes to Gry and her being shocked before Magne arrived and Laurits injecting himself with Wotan's blood and having different colored eyes and his abnormally large tapeworm.
Unless I'm misremembering several details and Magne was there for these scenes I'm not sure how this gets explained. Was everything shown literally Magne imagining what he believed was happening whenever he wasn't there? If so that makes even less sense from a storytelling perspective.
See that’s what lost me too if they’re saying it was all made up in his head???
I liked the end. I binge watched whole season 3 and i find it nice to find out everyone is at peace and happy instead of everyone dead. Also we got the epic final battle anyway , even if it was just in Magne's head, so i don't understand the disappointment.
I dont think it was so much the death of his friend that sent him over the edge, but returning to the place where his father died, or maybe before. The old lady touching his head s1 ep1, and his eyes glowing with lightning seems to be the start of the delusion. At any rate, it was a great show to watch, but in typical neflix fashion, the ending season was kind of a letdown. I guess we should be happy it got a final season
I was dissapointed by the ending as the final battle that gave chills in the trailer never happened
you know what's even weirder and doesn't add up? Ran talking in confidential about the story to her colleague, which actually validates that the story must be true and the ending about Magne then just don't seem true.🤔
@@m3jbro I have no fucking idea what I just watched.
It was a great show with great potential, the last episode would've been legendary.
All I was thinking about is:" is this really how is going to end"
They should have made the fight the ending not what they went with sadly
I have quite a different interpretation. what if it was all real up until they decided to break the myth cycle and stop Ragnarok. During the graduation ceremony, each death Magne imagines represents the ´´detachment´´ of the mythological character from the person. In the end we got normal people living normal lives.
Totally agree
The ending just makes everything more confusing and hard to believe that’s it’s all in his head. He met all these people on his journey but if it’s all in his head they should all mostly be strangers, not sharing a drink like pals. The mom looked at the window seeing him walk off seeming like he’s being cooped up in the house playing out this fairy tale so how did he get close to all these people. Furthermore they never truly hinted at his mental instability, rather they played into it one way or the other which doesn’t bring a good light to mental illness 🤷♂️
I felt so disappointed. You are left with a lot of questions which will remain unanswered. Such as did Magne actually kill Vidar ? How did wenche die ? A total letdown 😭
I was a huge fan of the series, and waiting 2 years for the final season, just for everything to turn out to be part of Magne's imagination, hasn't sat well on me. As you said, this series deserved way better 😢
I agree! I waited TWO YEARS in anticipation. The whole third season left me disappointed and a little PO'd. I didn't even get the deep sense of the beauty of nature of the environment of the location in 3 that I got from the previous two.
I was so excited to see him in his full prime as Thor. Imagine watching all 3 seasons just to have an ending this terrible.
It’s like the writers disappeared and they had to come up with some ending for the sake of it.
My interpretations watching it was that the events had all transpired. But as peace was struck, ragnarok was in the end avoided. Though, ragnarok being so fatebound still manifested as an echo of itself, playing out to the point of compelling the people to look at eachother, flinch or act subconciously whilst only thor truly saw the echo of what was foretold in it’s fullest.
As ragnarok was avoided, the incarnation of the gods, and their purpose in the play of destiny came to an end, and the nine steps showed us magne realizing that thor, and his fight, had come to an end. So magne was reborn, the fight in the past, and as such, the forces that drove the incarnation faded, returning the world to a non spiritual state.
As a non scandinavian person, i was very interested to see another side to norse mythology as popularized by the Marvel series. It got me hooked so bad and i had to marathon previous episodes cause it was very interesting at first.
After seeing season 3, i believe these were the longest 6 episodes of my life, the story was dragging, the hammer changed his personality, the way he reconciled with the fellow gods seem a bit shallow. His girlfriend Signy ddnt really contribute to his character development.
All that preparation and scenes with the very bad CGI serpent are gone to waste. Forest enlightenment with Wotan was not so deep or moving. I feel the series had no direction, no fight scenes, no justice for the ones wronged by the giants.
Loki's character should have been given more emphasis too, i think his character did not have a very significant importance.
The scenes from the graduation ceremony and the so called fight in his head was not clearly explained. The kid with the arrow was not explained well. It was a vague ending and maybe the producers and writers should just stop. They really messed it up. I do not recommend this series at all.
I recommend this series 100% I dont recommend season 3
Nope
I took it as Magne was seeing what could have been if they had chosen war instead of peace. It was a bit of a disappointing ending but I guess it’s how the individual viewer wants to see it.
Then why all the talks about schizophrenia and living in a fantasy world? And the comics? The show clearly implied it was all in his head.
4:42 the giants house have changed its appearance after magne came back to reality
Oh damn.. The tower is gone! You got some sharp eye Sir!
It feels like a cop out. And I have no idea what actually happened. Did he just go to school and come home every day and have this dillusion the whole time? What happened to the one giant he killed? Did none of that happen? Why is everyone OK with a 17 or 18 year old dating his older secretary? So are the rich people just assholes but not giants? Too many questions but overall really disappointing.
Yeah, his band of gods lost a hand, did get arrested for trespassing, gave birth to Little O, etc and if it was all in his head why were they all together celebrating together?
What does the mechanic have to do with him? How did he actually lost hand hand?
Little O is fake? Didn’t eat ducks or a few people?
Felt like another Quiet Quitting job by writers and director.
Wonder how the cast feel about the ending?
After seeing this, the ending is actually more clear and makes a lot more sense. Ragnarok didn’t center on the events of Ragnarok, it’s center focus and a plot point it touched on, was the political stances of the weak and poor, going against the strong and rich. The main story was the political battle and used Ragnarok to help it, signifying that if the peace isn’t reached, the end of the world will happen. Think about it, if the rich wins, then we’ll all die of poisons and pollution, dangerous foods, etc. while if the poor wins then we’ll all die because there’s no structure in place and chaos will ensue. There HAS to be that peace between the two classes, and this gets dignified really well in Ragnarok. I LOVED the mental trip at the end with the end of the world happening at graduation, it wasn’t the actual end of the world, it was the end of HIS world, he finally had to grow up, and start stepping into reality; yes his trauma is still there but this game he’s been playing has come to an end. He made his friends, he met those who helped him, he United people, and that’s the point, to show that even the smallest person can help spark a massive group movement.
Ragnarok was honestly really good, the symbolism was amazing and I loved it. I genuinely give it a 7/10, it was good, wonderful, buuuut I can’t see myself watching it again, the seasons were too short, it felt like more could have been done, but I’m happy with what we got
Glad you are. Doesn’t speak for the majority.
i actually really liked that ending it showed what could have been aswell as what was better, through all their struggles throughout the show, in the end they managed to break the cycle of destruction and dared to see eachother as equals. the ending really was beautiful. i think people that didnt like it are over analysing, or created their own fantasy for how it should have ended. i enjoyed the story and the journey. the ending really was beautiful, the emotions portayed in those last minutes was amazingly well done. it deserves more appreciation. i hope others enjoyed it as much as i did.
I was waiting for the twist, and it never came. So disappointing.
Yeah. After all the build up too. The show is called ragnorok. Yet it never occurred…
How was kid Magne even reading comics in English when we all know that he has dyslexia… How come other people saw his powers and commented on it ( The cop girl when he ran, Erik when he saw him push the car, Laurits and the baseball bat). Why would Vidar’s dog go after him? People having discussions about Magne being a God in private. There are dozens of examples like this. And the Director confirmed it was a mental breakdown ( could have been a different timeline but no). So they pull it out of nowhere at the last moment. It was already a bit too woke for me but anyways: Movie jail for the creative of this show.
Honestly watching it when the kids arrow hit 'Bauldr' I thought "oh here we go, this is gonna be epic!". Literally 10 seconds later I just thought "is this seriously what they're doing?!"
Agreed. I would watch and re-watch the first two seasons, because it was great. I'm left with the same question. What happened and what didn't? Especially as they ARE all a tight group. If they weren't on a mission as God's, what were they at, if he made it all up?
Everything except the final battle happened in real.
It was a good ending tough, first season implies about the schizophrenia by his mother tells him to take his pills. Before revealing the illness, his mother is summing the adventure and how he got over it. Great show with or without the ending!
Guess I am the only one who found the ending beautiful. Magne stepped out of his fantasy world and moved into real life where he has a beautiful girlfriend and friends waiting for him. I thought it was a breath of fresh air compared to many other tv shows that just keeps milking the show until there is nothing left and it starts feeling boring or slow or they just add another season that makes no sense. The tv show was entertaining from start until end for me and Its a show I will remember for sure.
I see it more as a "listen to your mother, give up your childish soul and go find a job".
Yup just you. It was lazy drivel.
I would agree with you if only the story made sense that way.
When you accept that everything happened in Magne's head you will notice that practically nothing about the story makes any sense, and you'll realise you no longer know what truly happened, and that you don't actually know any of the characters at all.
It's almost as if we simply had 17 episodes of disjointed dreams, and then a reveal that the main character was just asleep and he wakes up to meet all his friends and family who we've only seen in dreamy fantasy scenes, but we really know nothing about them. It kind of robs us of the supposed profundity of it all.
I like the way it ended. I think it stuck to reality and not some grandiose MCU bullshit. Not all these superhero shows need silly “epic” endings with cheesy quotes and pretentious drama.
As someone who was fully invested into this show I was extremely disappointed in the last episode. The fact that they turned this show into a mental health thing at the last episode is insane. Why couldn’t they just do this from the start. Instead of wasting and misleading the viewers time into thinking we were watching a mythology tv series. Smh
All those viewers who were expecting an actual battle with the expected ending are just too comfortable in their thinking.
Of course it can be disappointing after suffering with Magne and feeling all his frustration and grief for Isolde‘s death. But with this truly unexpected plot twist, the series reveals far more than just an usual coming-of-age story. All the development that Magne is going through is quite plausible because almost everyone of us knows it. It is understandable that he tried to compensate all these things with his imagination, since many things today can no longer be explained rationally and certainly cannot be understood.
In any case, I personally had already felt a huge confusion in the penultimate episode of the final season when the battle agreed upon with the giants was suddenly canceled by Magne. From this point I had a premonition that the rest of the story would not end as expected.
However, what raises a very specific question for me is the whereabouts of Vidar. As far as I can tell, once the whole story turned out to be Magne's fantasy, he wasn't seen at all. So you didn't see him at the graduation party, nor in the last minutes of the final "real" scenes. So wasn't he real from the start and did he only represent the ultimate evil for Magne? I was already wondering at the funeral service for Vidar how the Jutul family managed to hold a fake funeral ceremony with an empty coffin.
I think people misunderstood the ending completely with the hallucinations.
Isolde's death brought grief and was an internal struggle that prevented him accepting reality.
Ragnarok is purgatory where the giant's and gods clash endlessly in a final battle that does not actually end.
When he chose to broker peace between the giants and leave the hammer behind he was able to choose LOVE and finally move on.
The final shot is in honor of Valhalla where the champions drink at the table together both giants and god's are sitting side by side as equals.
We get a glimpse of Isolde giving cheers to him as she fades showing us that he can move on.
I know people expecting an epic confrontation of crazy fighting but this ending was actually beautiful if you understood it.
Thank you for the review! I couldn’t even get through season 2 so I’m glad I didn’t waste my time… it felt an American Gods level of disappointment by that point
3 was better than 2
@@saddletramp1979hell nah
You didn’t like season 2?
As they showed the Thor comics and the toy Mjolnir, I was thinking: "I really don't like where this seems to be going."