Kipass failure Kawasaki Concours 14
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- I came across this issue on my last trip. After driving for hundreds of KMs and not having one issue starting, I parked for the day at the hotel and came back to find my bike wouldn't activate when I pressed the key. Nothing. Checked everything from fob battery to bike battery. I came across a post noting the disconnect / reconnect wiring harness solution that got me back home.
* Update*
I decided to not fix the Kipass switch that fails. Instead, I installed a switch that is on the black/white wire in the grey connector. To start, I switch this switch off then on again which causes the same action as pressing the key. You now have about 5 secs to start the bike. Problem solved with a $5 switch.
Thank you for putting this on I will give that go thank you helping all of us
I hope it helps Neville. Sorry for the poor quality but I did this quite a few years ago. Let me know how it works out for you!
I really like these bikes and i had two of them, I sold them both because i did not want to have a problem with this nonsense.
Give me a damn key!
THANKS FOR NTHE VIDEO HOPE THEY IMPROVED THIS KEY SWITHC MECHANICALS ON THE 2018 MODEL YEAR CONCOURS 14
tom73055 I HOPE SO, I JUST BOUGHT A 2019.
Really important Info Video many thanks to you 👍🥂
Regarding the solenoid plastic cover - does it come off in a fairly obvious manner, i.e. a couple of screws, or what?
And from watching this, it seems as if slider gets stuck from corrosion, of the magnet inside isn’t strong enough. What was the permanent fix? A new solenoid, or is it a complete key replacement? Do they sell that one part? And lastly, did they ever actually fix the problem.
Great video by the way.
Hi Bruce. This is a 2008. Kawasaki says they fixed this issue. I wouldn't worry for your trip BUT keep this trick in your back pocket just in case. I ended up fitting an interrupter switch in line with that connector so I always have easy access.
It's a solution,my 2008 has just developed the fault.it also melted the starter relay/main fuse assembly.Starter switch new is £545 ! Just purchased a second hand one ,will try and mix and match bits
Thanks for the detailed video. I went out for the first start of the season to find my kipass unresponsive. I'm going to try your tricks and hope for the best...
Hi Rob. If it is the Kipass, this will fix it. I wouldn't bother fixing the solenoid. Just do the switch fix that I describe. You'll never have to worry about it again.
@@bharrison Sorry, just saw that you replied... My issue turned out to be a dead battery...first on the bike, then on the transponder. I guess she didn't winter well...despite the tender.
@@robr2154 All good news! Well, keep this in your back pocket should you need it. It seems to mostly affect 2008-2009 models.
@@bharrison Brad brilliant video, my bike did it for the first time in the arse end of nowhere but after tap taping it came OK and has been fine since, do you need to remove the top fairing to get at the gizmo and does the solenoid cover come off fine, I'm thinking a spray of electrical cleaner might help things..
@@Team-fabulous I'm happy it helped! I pulled the solenoid completely apart and cleaned it as you mentioned. It didn't solve the problem for me. Kawasaki replaces the spring (so I've heard) but I haven't done this. Instead, I do the interrupt switch and it always works now.
My project vehicle has a similar solenoid for the fuel pump - it’s a DME relay in the fuse box -$30 on rock auto. -
I never had a problem with either one of my Concours, i was thinkin, maybe blow it off real good with air again like you did, then spray a little silicone spray on that switch, dry lubricant wont attract dirt or dust, also put a new battery in yr Fob....
Hi Richard. Yes. This is a 2008 Concours14/GTR14. No recall that I know of but I have heard stories of dealerships fixing it. I wouldn't bank on that though.
What year is your concours ? I have a 2012, and I am getting ready to take a 4000 mile trip and would not be happy having to deal with that issue. Do you know If Kawasaki has fixed the problem?
I have a GTR 1400 which is fantastic, however all these electronic gizmos are great until they fail...
I mean why do you need a keyless system....
And that's why I love my 1000. No electronic gizmos to fail and leave me stranded.
@@bigpapa8152 agreed, I also had a GTR 1000 which was a fantastic bike..
I know I'm a little late, but I like keyless a lot. The downside is that I drive several different vehicles, and have no mental standard, so I get used to get out of the car and leaving the key in it, or walking away from the bike and forgetting to turn it off...
@@robr2154 I'm well used to it now and yes I like it too...
Great info!! thanks for making the video.
I will try, tks!!!
It's really not that difficult. It's an hour job once you are all set and ready to go. Good luck!
Is this with all concours14/gtr1400? Has there been a recall for it?
Molto utile,bravooooooo.
Brad, it's okay.
I am Carlos, I live in Brazil, I have a Concours 14, which burned the KIPASS module.
I bought another kipass module on ebay, so I put the KDS3 scanner to configure the fob key, but the KDS3 system did not release the window for inclusion in the new key.
Have you seen any problems like this?
Would you help me?
I thank Carlos
Hello Carlos. I apologize but I haven't done this before and I can't help you with this procedure.
Any specific years for this problem ?? I'm thinking of a 2015 C14
BeaglePower G I've only seen/heard of this issue with the first few years. Anything older than 2010 should be fine as far as I know. Other than this, it's an awesome bike! Good choice.
seen this twice, one on a bike I looked at buying and then now on the bike I eventually bought. How did you resolve this problem. Here in the UK the dealers don't want to know, my local dealer unofficially said that they have repaired the micro switch on some bikes, but tend to change the whole unit on most. Any advice on best fix? Many thanks Paul
Hi Paul. Much the same here in Canada. Dealers don't want to acknowledge this is a problem.
What I did was to install an interrupter switch on the grey connector I mention in the video. This way I will NEVER have this problem again. If you want more detailed instructions, I can send you more info.
Brad Harrison
Brad, many thanks if you could forward me more info I will very grateful. Brad if you want to keep the info private send it to paul.thornton@sppowersystems.com Many thanks, Paul
Hi Brad....I have the same problem. I love the idea of a interrupter switch on the grey connector. Can you send me the information to do this please ? Here's my email : pascal.collinge@hotmail.fr ... Thank you !
@@bharrison hola, si aun existes, agradeceria me pudieces enviar la informacion, tengo el problema ahora con 67mil km.
@@MasterLacronos Hola Rodrigo. What I did was install an interrupter switch at the grey connector. Try reading this post:
zggtr.org/index.php?topic=627.0 This will explain what to do.
Very nice Vid. Thanks. My problem is that I had lost my FOB and can't start my bike. I've talked to Kawasaki and they said I have to by a OEM FOB. So, with towing, buying the new FOB and programming the new FOB will cost me ruffly $500.00 to get my bike started. Not an option for me.
Brad, would your technique of breaking down the switch allow me to start my bike without a FOB?
Also, does anyone know where I can buy a backup FOB for much less than what the dealers selling it for($285.00)?
Thanks again Brian.
Ouch. Sorry Brian. Without the fob you are out of luck using this procedure. You still need the fob. It isn't worth the hassle to see about bypassing the Kipass system. Fork out the money to make your small headache go away. Try to Jerry rig it and you may end up with a much bigger problem. Good luck!
Here is a post from Brian that shows how he handled this issue and the connector that he made:
forum.cog-online.org/index.php?topic=39483.0
Brad
Had the same problem as your describing in your video. I found there is a micro switch under the top ring where the piece sticks out at 9 o`clock, it had got stuck, freed up with a prod of a thin screwdriver and some WD40. Now the KIPASS is activated with the lightest of pushes on the top hat.
Link shows how to fix
www.gtr1400.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=4449.0
Hi Ali, I just looked into that thread and the pictures you've attached don't seem to work. I don't currently have the problem but the next time I am going to unskirt the bike I'd like to take a look at it and maybe lube the micro switch. Is it possible to identify it in the video here whith Brad's disassembly of the part and, perhaps, provide a timestamp on when it's visible?
Hey brad does your bypass switch still work?
Still working great Matt. It's been 8 years and never a problem. I hope this helps if you are having trouble.
@@bharrison that’s great Brad. I’m looking at a C14 and a buddy said the kipass always breaks . I love your solution and I’m a little less nervous now. Just a little toggle switch? No big amperage?
@@Inuktuuk It's the most simple solution you can imagine. Any 12v toggle switch will do. No amperage to deal with and you'll never be left stranded because of this stupid system. You can get around it by tapping on the solenoid switch until it works but this is worth the 20 mins it will take you to install. AND this is still one of the best sport tourers out there. I highly recommend the bike!
@@bharrison thanks again I’m graduating from a c10
good job,,,,
You still need your transmitter key fob, dummy.