Totally agree, you actually have 3 critical items to worry about, the FOB, which could fall out of a pocket or the battery could die or the key, which could be lost as well, and the backup key, which I taped under one of the panels, so if plunder the FOB I can at least get home.
@@mrriesen9004 very clever. I now have a bike that has a normal key. It seems to work just fine. I’ve never lost it or had it fall out of a pocket while riding. I do prefer a normal key.
They should’ve put cruise control on them instead of keyless system ! A lot of sport touring Riders wouldn’t buy that bike because of no cruise control !
I feel your pain mate. No one likes loosing anything. When I carry my spare key on an extended trip I attach it to a key chain fob and then clip it to the tab inside my jacket . That my security solution.
Yeah, can’t disagree when it comes to Kawasaki’s options. With Harley’s there is a five digit PIN that you can enter to start the bike… I used this method after losing my fob on day two of a thirteen day trip to TAS in 2019.
I like the Keyless Fob for my bike, too many times I've had the key to my old bike in my inner jacket pocket under a vest, and didn't realise until helmet and gloves are on. Now I can keep the Fob zipped up in my jacket and safe.
I'm really glad I have just a standard key for my bike. Not too expensive to replace if needed. Never lost my keys either. Misplaced them at home a couple times, but quickly found them. Good video man!!
I just purchases a Concours 14 and agree with everything you said here. Kawaski could have just put a keypad on the bike, where a 3 or 4 digit code could be entered to start it. If Kawasaki wanted a keyless system, it should have been offered as an option. It should have had a standard key ignition, unless the customer ordered it with the keyless setup...
i think you have a great way of thinking. Thank you for watching and commenting. My current bike, (2008 Triumph Rocket 3) has a key, and I love that about the bike. Haven't once come close to losing it.
Thanks for sharing that beautiful sound at the end man. It's been too long a winter in my heck of the woods, can't wait to start ridding again. I agree with you on the keyless system but honestly I think the whole issue is the cost of replacement, if pricing was reasonable, and kawi dealers actually knew how to program fobs, I wouldn't mind so much. Good thing you had the backup fob. Ride safe...
Yes I suppose so. If I could replace the fob for a normal cost of a car fob, it wouldn’t be so bad. Thanks Tommy. Hopefully you’ll be riding soon. We are having a bit of an Indian summer here. So hot at the moment.
Hi i only can think one positive reason for being keyless at the moment. I personally never had a bike with a keyless system. All my bikes were with physical keys. So, I can not say much. However, the reason is the security during the ride. This didn't happen with me but I have witnessed it: central London gang on the traffic light attack the biker, very fast removed the physical key from ignition and drove off with the scooters, only later to return and steal the bike that was left on the side of the road - while the biker went home to fetch his spare key.
Had keyless cars, also keyless locking system on some cars, but regarding bikes I believe it is better to go for the classic key. Sure, for those who are in "need" of the latest tech... it sure has a lot of advantages, but this thing is just an option for me. Keep it up mate. Great video.
XD I am simple man. I like holes. It would be fking great to have a physical key. Great bike regardless. I'm more of a ZX 14 0 with 1 inch bar raisers myself.
My car has a key fob, I’ve become used to it, but I prefer the key. With the motorcycle, both are old enough to need a key to start, and I want to keep it that way. I agree with you completely, a key is harder to lose than a key fob. I’m sure I’ll have to deal with this issue when I eventually buy a newer bike…. But I don’t look forward to it!! That’s a lot of money to replace a key fob!!!
I had a go on a Harley many years ago which had keyless, I loved it for the demo, but in reality, I'd not want a bike that was keyless, like you said at the start,, it is the answer to a problem that never existed, and adds far more issues should you lose a fob vs a key.
You don’t really hate your beautiful bike!!! She brings you so much joy 🤩 It’s like the chastity belt key Chewster never let it outta your site 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
I lost my key the other day, luckily I had a spare ! . Missing my bike, have had Covid for the two weeks , not being able to ride! Not fun 😎. 49, you are such a young pup Mate. Take Care Mate 😎
Bummer about the fob. I know what you mean. When I bought my Beemer I got an extra FOB, the spare (yes it cost me). BMW supply a little plastic key which you can keep in your wallet for such emergencies, however, I wasn't happy with that, hence the spare FOB. As to my main FOB, I have it on a chain and attached to my belt and it lives in my pocket so I don't lose it. When I had my 1400 GTR, I did same as you, except I found my FOB, that was enough to plan FOB security. 😁 At least you're still on the road. Ride well. Cheers
Great bikes but the design for sercicing is terrible. I think most modern bikes are the same. So much tech and plastic in the way. I swore my next bike would be much more simple. I ended up on a 2008 Rocket 3. Definitely less tech but a big beast.
The only time a keyless system would be beneficial on a bike would be as a work bike, like a bike for a courier or delivery rider, where you are hopping on and off of the bike constantly throughout the day, so better for a scooter or something like an NC750, not a sports tourer where the whole point is minimal stops
I have the same bike. I did drop the FOB over and if the FOB is a couple of metres from the bike the transponder warning will come on. I stopped immediately, went back and found I had travelled around 100+M from the time the light came on. I found the FOB in 3 parts. 7 years later - same FOB that lives in my jacket pocket and the spare is hidden on the bike. Now I love the idea. The 1400GTR was Kawasaki's first bike with the FOB and now they have others.
@@hachewie you can get the passive chip copied at someplace like Mr Minute so you have another spare. It cost around $800+ dollars if you lose the all FOBs. Kawasaki will charge $1500+ to fix all lost FOBs although a locksmith in Melbourne does it for the cheaper price. Join up GTR-AUS for more tips, tricks and how to for all things GTR. A better knowledge bank then any Kawasaki dealer.
I agree mate, key goes in the ignition, pocket and where you store it Just like my old GerL 😁😜👍🏼 The way I see it, a Keys a Key...you still have to use it....the fob or electronic Keys just making everyone lazy🤷 Cheers 🍻 Mate ✌🏻
Keyless ignition just adds complexity and more expensive repairs/parts replacement. That's for the manufacturer's benefit not for the customers benefit. I'd rather just have a key.
I agree that losing the fob is much easier than your standard key. I would keep the fob in a pocket that i never use. Make sure you speak to your local locksmith as I belive they can reprogram an aftermarket fob to work on your bike. Let me know how you go.
Complicated convenience - love what you said, a solution to a problem nobody ever had. Seven hundred dollars... dude, that's outrageous. They should have just put a damn key in the thing. Loved the ending heheh! Cool gloves by the way!!
My spyder had a regular key. the Ryker has a weird fob thing. It's ok.. but It is much easier to lose. During the riding season I just attach it to the rest of my keys.
A solution to a problem nobody ever had...very well said. TommyG has a key fob...and his bike squeals a lot as if it doesn't know the fob is RIGHT there. Now on the other hand, I wish my gas tank didn't lock with a key. Sorry you lost your key...you make a valid point there!! What a cluster you had to deal with it. Your key is probably with my glove I lost one time and never did find. $700??? yikes!!!
I hate the key fob on my 2018. I strongly dislike how high and far back the foot pegs are, very tight angle on the knee. I'm not a fan of the bar, even with 2 inch risers that are 1 inch back have me slightly leaning forward. I love the engine to the ends of the earth.
I shall agree my friend ! A fiend of mine got stranded because his fob battery was too low so he couldn’t get his HD started. (Having a real key 🔑 is much better) Great discussion my friend. Cheers 🍻
I have to agree with you there at least as far as bikes are concerned. However my new car has gone back to requiring a key in the ignition, which I find a pain since my last two didn't. Perhaps they thought it would prevent bike theft gangs from riding up beside you and grabbing your key, which happens in London a lot. The one I really don't get, which triumph and Harley and possibly others do on some bikes, is the ingnition on the side of the bike behind the rider. I've subbed as I've seen you on the UK live streams. I own a ZZR I totally get the buzz you were referring to at the end 😯 😁
Thank you for the sub. I have seen videos about bike jacking in the UK. Makes sense to have a FOB in a lot of situations. When it works it is great. When it fails it is a massive pain. I do like the Harley PIN is you lose the FOB. Makes sense. Kawasaki's backup is less than ideal. I miss my ZZR. I"m considering the ZZR1400 for a 1/4 mile bike. Hmmmm If only I had the $$$$$. I'll check out yur channel too.
The cost is insane. I do like keyless fob's on cars. With a car I never take the key out of my pocket but if I had to take the key out of my pocket to start my bike then put it back every time, I wouldn't like that.
I am not a big fan of the keyless ignition as twice I have forgotten to switch off and returned to a flat battery. Old fashioned key that you take out is better.
You're only complaining because you lost your transponder (which is horrifying as when I almost lost mine) but I like having it in my pocket and being able to park the bike at will, walk away, and nobody can start it but me until I return. As for the $700, that's about what it cost when I dropped my bike in my garage and had to replace a snapped brake pedal and a few plastic parts. I also like the same thing about my Kawasaki Concours, tricked out a little bit with full titanium exhaust, ECU flash, and Dyno tune, as I ride with R1's, BMW 1000's, Gixers, and Busas, and have no trouble keeping up at WOT, more than keeping up if you can believe that, but I'm comfortable after a 50 mile hard ride and they are getting tired.
Overall the bike is great in my modest opinion. I have 2021 model year. You should see me when I had a Triumph, 660 Trident, brand new!!! But for some reason the bike didn’t recognize transponder so I had to sit sometimes for several hours before it will decide to start😂 Calling the Triumph assistance was useless. At the end I traded that Triumph for GTR and I didn’t regret!
I love my Kawasaki Concours 14 just like yours. I have the same keypass and I actually love it. I keep the fob in my pocket the whole time when I ride, and never have to put the key in or out. Having the permanent key on the ignition, deters quite a bit of opportunities to mess up the ignition to steal the motorcycle. I hope that never happens. I also never lost the fob. Although my 2008 came with 2x FOBs. I just purchased the 2022 model (yes I love it that most that I had to buy the last generation), and comes with the thin key like you have and 1x regular FOB. I am inquire to have a second FOB as a spare because . . . Just in case like you said, it is a pain. However, I love the system. And I hope I never loose the FOB. That’s me and my 2008 on this video. m.ruclips.net/video/CmM2dBjSbIg/видео.html
My Indian has a fob and the other day I could figure out why I had to enter my PIN number to start it…..I accidentally grabbed my car fob instead of the bike 🤦♂️. Luck I can start it with a PIN code 😊
Is it weird that whenever I see the word butt written now I just think of Monkeytbuttrides? Am I the problem? I honestly don't ever want one of those. Keys work just bloody fine. 500!!!! My god that's insane. So you can't even go get a few cut for safety. Madness. It's a pity you can't even find the transponder on GPS or something, that'd make sense at least. Or even at the VERY least it should tell you within 100m you've lost your key. Oh a good zoom!!
Damn. I have both my Harley fobs. I replace the battery in them every time the rego is renewed. The fobs just live in my jacket internal pocket. They only come out when rego is renewed. If I lose my jacket, well that’s an entire other issue.
Bikes are exposed to the elements - electronics don´t like that - consequently electronic gremlins bother us. Vendors know it, but can´t resist to address "buyers want´s & needs" no one has asked for, so we get all this electronic stuff including keyless-go. I prefer bikes with keys and minimal electronics.
no fan of keyless cars or motor bikes mate seems for thieves they just hack the system so stealing your bike or car far easier than a key ignition plus they are a pain in the bum generally on your side with the rant *leaving a like👍Au👀✅fully watched*
Keyless fob ??? Meh..... I can take it or leave it. I WANT CRUISE CONTROL !!!! The bike is great in the twisties, but crossing the plains on the interstate without cruise is a pain.
Unfortunate. I think a Harley fob is like $80? so not as bad as $500. I don't particularly like the fob system because if you want to move your bike around in neutral say in your garage the alarm (well the flashing light portion of the alarm) goes off. If I lost a fob I'd have to type a long pin number using clunky indicators to scroll through numbers so that would be annoying too.
My old bike has no key. If I ever park it somewhere and am worried someone will be man enough to start it and ride off I'll just pull the spark plug wire and put it in my pocket. Sorry you lost your transponder and replacement is way too expensive.
I think I put it in my jacket pocket and didn’t zip it up. I never wanted to leave it in the glove box in case I got lazy and left it there. I wish I knew how I lost it then I would have found it.
@@hachewie so basicly its you and not the motorbike 😂😂. Lost my key for my toyota.. And its pretty much same costs as kawasaki.. Fortunately i found the key again. But yea.
Many people must like these features otherwise they would not have put them on the bike. I just crashed my bike yesterday. I know I will miss it dearly as I love the bike on the whole.
That's one reason I like older bikes , use normal keys and I have a spare at home.
Yep. Makes sense.
Totally agree, you actually have 3 critical items to worry about, the FOB, which could fall out of a pocket or the battery could die or the key, which could be lost as well, and the backup key, which I taped under one of the panels, so if plunder the FOB I can at least get home.
@@mrriesen9004 very clever. I now have a bike that has a normal key. It seems to work just fine. I’ve never lost it or had it fall out of a pocket while riding. I do prefer a normal key.
They should’ve put cruise control on them instead of keyless system !
A lot of sport touring Riders wouldn’t buy that bike because of no cruise control !
I agree. Would have made the bike much more appealing.
I feel your pain mate. No one likes loosing anything. When I carry my spare key on an extended trip I attach it to a key chain fob and then clip it to the tab inside my jacket . That my security solution.
You are smart. I’m not. 😉
Yeah, can’t disagree when it comes to Kawasaki’s options.
With Harley’s there is a five digit PIN that you can enter to start the bike… I used this method after losing my fob on day two of a thirteen day trip to TAS in 2019.
The PIN makes much more sense. I remember the story of your Tasmania trip. Bloody frustrating.
I like the Keyless Fob for my bike, too many times I've had the key to my old bike in my inner jacket pocket under a vest, and didn't realise until helmet and gloves are on. Now I can keep the Fob zipped up in my jacket and safe.
There are definitely advantages. Welcome back mate. Haven’t seen you here for about a year I think. Nice new bike too.
@@hachewie cheers mate, it's been quite a busy time the last year or so, I need to dedicate more time to make some videos
@@BigRobMoto Good luck with it. Now that you have the new Harley you will be much more motivated.
I'm really glad I have just a standard key for my bike. Not too expensive to replace if needed.
Never lost my keys either. Misplaced them at home a couple times, but quickly found them.
Good video man!!
Same man. I miss putting the key in to be honest
I just purchases a Concours 14 and agree with everything you said here. Kawaski could have just put a keypad on the bike, where a 3 or 4 digit code could be entered to start it. If Kawasaki wanted a keyless system, it should have been offered as an option. It should have had a standard key ignition, unless the customer ordered it with the keyless setup...
i think you have a great way of thinking. Thank you for watching and commenting. My current bike, (2008 Triumph Rocket 3) has a key, and I love that about the bike. Haven't once come close to losing it.
I’m with you there. Too many gadgets and gimmicks on bikes these days 😏
I agree. I need a speedometer, temp gauge and fuel gauge
Agreed Chewie, I do find keyless ignition of motorcycles pointless 😑
Thanks mate. That’s coz you’re smart
Thanks for sharing that beautiful sound at the end man. It's been too long a winter in my heck of the woods, can't wait to start ridding again. I agree with you on the keyless system but honestly I think the whole issue is the cost of replacement, if pricing was reasonable, and kawi dealers actually knew how to program fobs, I wouldn't mind so much. Good thing you had the backup fob. Ride safe...
Yes I suppose so. If I could replace the fob for a normal cost of a car fob, it wouldn’t be so bad. Thanks Tommy. Hopefully you’ll be riding soon. We are having a bit of an Indian summer here. So hot at the moment.
Hi i only can think one positive reason for being keyless at the moment.
I personally never had a bike with a keyless system. All my bikes were with physical keys. So, I can not say much.
However, the reason is the security during the ride.
This didn't happen with me but I have witnessed it: central London gang on the traffic light attack the biker, very fast removed the physical key from ignition and drove off with the scooters, only later to return and steal the bike that was left on the side of the road - while the biker went home to fetch his spare key.
I can definitely understand the security side. I now have a key again on the triumph rocket 3. I love it.
Had keyless cars, also keyless locking system on some cars, but regarding bikes I believe it is better to go for the classic key. Sure, for those who are in "need" of the latest tech... it sure has a lot of advantages, but this thing is just an option for me. Keep it up mate. Great video.
I agree mate. Thanks Gregor.
XD I am simple man. I like holes. It would be fking great to have a physical key. Great bike regardless. I'm more of a ZX 14 0 with 1 inch bar raisers myself.
My car has a key fob, I’ve become used to it, but I prefer the key. With the motorcycle, both are old enough to need a key to start, and I want to keep it that way. I agree with you completely, a key is harder to lose than a key fob. I’m sure I’ll have to deal with this issue when I eventually buy a newer bike…. But I don’t look forward to it!! That’s a lot of money to replace a key fob!!!
I'm searching alternatives. Hopefully I can find something reasonably priced. Thanks Patrick.
I had a go on a Harley many years ago which had keyless, I loved it for the demo, but in reality, I'd not want a bike that was keyless, like you said at the start,, it is the answer to a problem that never existed, and adds far more issues should you lose a fob vs a key.
I agree. Bloody stupid me losing it. I’ll blame Kawasaki though. 🤣
@@hachewie definitely 😀
You don’t really hate your beautiful bike!!!
She brings you so much joy 🤩
It’s like the chastity belt key Chewster never let it outta your site 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Hahahahaha. I do hate the ignition system.
I lost my key the other day, luckily I had a spare ! . Missing my bike, have had Covid for the two weeks , not being able to ride! Not fun 😎. 49, you are such a young pup Mate. Take Care Mate 😎
Thanks mate. Lucky you have a key. Hope you recover well mate. You’ll be back on the bike in no time.
Bummer about the fob. I know what you mean. When I bought my Beemer I got an extra FOB, the spare (yes it cost me). BMW supply a little plastic key which you can keep in your wallet for such emergencies, however, I wasn't happy with that, hence the spare FOB. As to my main FOB, I have it on a chain and attached to my belt and it lives in my pocket so I don't lose it. When I had my 1400 GTR, I did same as you, except I found my FOB, that was enough to plan FOB security. 😁 At least you're still on the road. Ride well. Cheers
All good suggestions. I’ll definitely improve my fob awareness
@@hachewie That's cool, I just didn't want to fob you off. 😂😂
I had a 2012 for 10 years. The thing I hated….changing spark plugs and checking valves!!🤬 Yet, after selling it 2 years ago, I miss it dearly
Great bikes but the design for sercicing is terrible. I think most modern bikes are the same. So much tech and plastic in the way. I swore my next bike would be much more simple. I ended up on a 2008 Rocket 3. Definitely less tech but a big beast.
Keys, Fobs, key less, ...I opt for the James Bond type ignition....Optical scan!! 🤣🤣 Great topic@@
Beats the rectal probe.
@@hachewie 🤣🤣💚💚
The only time a keyless system would be beneficial on a bike would be as a work bike, like a bike for a courier or delivery rider, where you are hopping on and off of the bike constantly throughout the day, so better for a scooter or something like an NC750, not a sports tourer where the whole point is minimal stops
That's a great point. Yes I agree. Thanks for watching.
Agreed. I would gladly trade the stupid KIPASS for cruise control, but the C14 is still a great bike nonetheless.
I 100% agree. Thanks for watching.
I have the same bike. I did drop the FOB over and if the FOB is a couple of metres from the bike the transponder warning will come on. I stopped immediately, went back and found I had travelled around 100+M from the time the light came on. I found the FOB in 3 parts.
7 years later - same FOB that lives in my jacket pocket and the spare is hidden on the bike. Now I love the idea.
The 1400GTR was Kawasaki's first bike with the FOB and now they have others.
Good information. I still haven’t replaced mine. Using the spare key and chip. Pain in the butt. I’m going to fit a new fob soon.
@@hachewie you can get the passive chip copied at someplace like Mr Minute so you have another spare. It cost around $800+ dollars if you lose the all FOBs. Kawasaki will charge $1500+ to fix all lost FOBs although a locksmith in Melbourne does it for the cheaper price.
Join up GTR-AUS for more tips, tricks and how to for all things GTR. A better knowledge bank then any Kawasaki dealer.
@@D_F_A Thanks for that. I’ll definitely look into it.
I agree mate, key goes in the ignition, pocket and where you store it
Just like my old GerL 😁😜👍🏼
The way I see it, a Keys a Key...you still have to use it....the fob or electronic Keys just making everyone lazy🤷
Cheers 🍻 Mate ✌🏻
Absolutely. Thanks Smitty. It’s a simple concept and it works.
I’m not to fussed, having said that my bikes have keys and I’m happy to stay with it 😎
Yeah man. Keys are good.
Keyless ignition just adds complexity and more expensive repairs/parts replacement. That's for the manufacturer's benefit not for the customers benefit. I'd rather just have a key.
I agree 100%. Just priced a new fob. $550 au. Damn. Tyre pressure sensors, $350 each. Double damn.
lol. I have that weird crap on my bike as well...but it also can take a key. I've NEVER used the fob, except for a few times to set the alarm.
If I had the option, I'd use a key.
I couldn't agree more, not to mention batteries crapping out in the middle of a long ride.
I think the PIN on Harleys is a better system though.
I agree that losing the fob is much easier than your standard key. I would keep the fob in a pocket that i never use.
Make sure you speak to your local locksmith as I belive they can reprogram an aftermarket fob to work on your bike. Let me know how you go.
Thanks Matt. I will certainly investigate it.
Great title awesome content keep rocking Kawi bro 👍👌💪🙌
Thanks bud
Complicated convenience - love what you said, a solution to a problem nobody ever had. Seven hundred dollars... dude, that's outrageous. They should have just put a damn key in the thing. Loved the ending heheh! Cool gloves by the way!!
I do like the gloves. They seem to be quite durable. They’ll be too hot for summer though. Thanks mate. The bike accelerates well.
Wow! Thanks!
@@pearl427 ok
My spyder had a regular key. the Ryker has a weird fob thing. It's ok.. but It is much easier to lose. During the riding season I just attach it to the rest of my keys.
I’d much prefer a key
A solution to a problem nobody ever had...very well said. TommyG has a key fob...and his bike squeals a lot as if it doesn't know the fob is RIGHT there. Now on the other hand, I wish my gas tank didn't lock with a key. Sorry you lost your key...you make a valid point there!! What a cluster you had to deal with it. Your key is probably with my glove I lost one time and never did find. $700??? yikes!!!
My keys and your glove probably eloped to a tropical island somewhere. Hahahahaha. Thanks for watching Jody.
@@hachewie 😂😂😂
I hate the key fob on my 2018.
I strongly dislike how high and far back the foot pegs are, very tight angle on the knee.
I'm not a fan of the bar, even with 2 inch risers that are 1 inch back have me slightly leaning forward.
I love the engine to the ends of the earth.
The engine is a thing of joy.
I shall agree my friend ! A fiend of mine got stranded because his fob battery was too low so he couldn’t get his HD started. (Having a real key 🔑 is much better) Great discussion my friend. Cheers 🍻
Thanks Eddie.
Seems like a no-brainer to always have a spare fob battery stored in the bikes glove box
Cool one 👍👍
Thank you.
Sorry bout the fob, hopefully you'll get it sorted without too much expenses and hassle
Thanks mate.
I have to agree with you there at least as far as bikes are concerned. However my new car has gone back to requiring a key in the ignition, which I find a pain since my last two didn't. Perhaps they thought it would prevent bike theft gangs from riding up beside you and grabbing your key, which happens in London a lot. The one I really don't get, which triumph and Harley and possibly others do on some bikes, is the ingnition on the side of the bike behind the rider. I've subbed as I've seen you on the UK live streams. I own a ZZR I totally get the buzz you were referring to at the end 😯 😁
Thank you for the sub. I have seen videos about bike jacking in the UK. Makes sense to have a FOB in a lot of situations. When it works it is great. When it fails it is a massive pain. I do like the Harley PIN is you lose the FOB. Makes sense. Kawasaki's backup is less than ideal.
I miss my ZZR. I"m considering the ZZR1400 for a 1/4 mile bike. Hmmmm If only I had the $$$$$.
I'll check out yur channel too.
The cost is insane. I do like keyless fob's on cars. With a car I never take the key out of my pocket but if I had to take the key out of my pocket to start my bike then put it back every time, I wouldn't like that.
It's just a pain in the arse.
I am not a big fan of the keyless ignition as twice I have forgotten to switch off and returned to a flat battery.
Old fashioned key that you take out is better.
That’s very frustrating. I agree. I miss my key.
Thanks for nice sharing! Have a great day!
Thank you.
I agree!
Thanks
My friend has the same bike and he hates the keyless ignition as well. Ride safe mate.
THanks mate.
You're only complaining because you lost your transponder (which is horrifying as when I almost lost mine) but I like having it in my pocket and being able to park the bike at will, walk away, and nobody can start it but me until I return. As for the $700, that's about what it cost when I dropped my bike in my garage and had to replace a snapped brake pedal and a few plastic parts. I also like the same thing about my Kawasaki Concours, tricked out a little bit with full titanium exhaust, ECU flash, and Dyno tune, as I ride with R1's, BMW 1000's, Gixers, and Busas, and have no trouble keeping up at WOT, more than keeping up if you can believe that, but I'm comfortable after a 50 mile hard ride and they are getting tired.
There’s definitely more to love about this bike than hate. I would still prefer a traditional key. Thanks for the watch and comment.
Overall the bike is great in my modest opinion. I have 2021 model year. You should see me when I had a Triumph, 660 Trident, brand new!!! But for some reason the bike didn’t recognize transponder so I had to sit sometimes for several hours before it will decide to start😂 Calling the Triumph assistance was useless. At the end I traded that Triumph for GTR and I didn’t regret!
That doesn’t sound like fun. I do love my bike. I’ll make a review soon now that I’ve owned it for a year.
I love my Kawasaki Concours 14 just like yours.
I have the same keypass and I actually love it.
I keep the fob in my pocket the whole time when I ride, and never have to put the key in or out. Having the permanent key on the ignition, deters quite a bit of opportunities to mess up the ignition to steal the motorcycle. I hope that never happens. I also never lost the fob. Although my 2008 came with 2x FOBs. I just purchased the 2022 model (yes I love it that most that I had to buy the last generation), and comes with the thin key like you have and 1x regular FOB. I am inquire to have a second FOB as a spare because . . . Just in case like you said, it is a pain. However, I love the system. And I hope I never loose the FOB.
That’s me and my 2008 on this video.
m.ruclips.net/video/CmM2dBjSbIg/видео.html
Awesome. I’ll check out your video. I do love my bike.
My Indian has a fob and the other day I could figure out why I had to enter my PIN number to start it…..I accidentally grabbed my car fob instead of the bike 🤦♂️. Luck I can start it with a PIN code 😊
Hahahaha. That’s a better system than the Kawasaki.
Awesome bike 👍👍
@@malemasemoer They are awesome. I miss my one.
Is it weird that whenever I see the word butt written now I just think of Monkeytbuttrides? Am I the problem?
I honestly don't ever want one of those. Keys work just bloody fine. 500!!!! My god that's insane. So you can't even go get a few cut for safety. Madness.
It's a pity you can't even find the transponder on GPS or something, that'd make sense at least. Or even at the VERY least it should tell you within 100m you've lost your key. Oh a good zoom!!
I agree with everything. Yes it’s you. You are obsessed with monkeys butts… and MinkeyButt.
@@hachewie hahaha I shall seek help.
Not a fan either - similar to my key which has a transponder in it so I can't cut a spare despite it being bent! Worst design idea.
That’s terrible. Sometimes technology is not better.
Yr old school, I like the attitude
Back than, you didn't need to lock things
Is it an insurance industry wrought?
Is it a manufacturer wrought?
I agree. Thanks mate.
Damn.
I have both my Harley fobs. I replace the battery in them every time the rego is renewed. The fobs just live in my jacket internal pocket. They only come out when rego is renewed. If I lose my jacket, well that’s an entire other issue.
The issue with my FOB is I had my top box key on it. I'll rectify that so the FOB is alone. :( Wish I'd thought of that.
@@hachewie oh. How bizarre. Kawasaki put the storage key with the fob? That is dumb.
@@whatsstefon It an after market top box with a different key. I’m the stupid one.
@@hachewie Ah. Now I understand. Damn.
I agree with you, i hate it, they could had use that money for something else's on the bike
Cruise control for example would be better money spent.
Bikes are exposed to the elements - electronics don´t like that - consequently electronic gremlins bother us. Vendors know it, but can´t resist to address "buyers want´s & needs" no one has asked for, so we get all this electronic stuff including keyless-go. I prefer bikes with keys and minimal electronics.
I agree. Thank you.
If the fab opened the bags it would be ok
Definitely make it more useful.
no fan of keyless cars or motor bikes mate seems for thieves they just hack the system so stealing your bike or car far easier than a key ignition plus they are a pain in the bum generally on your side with the rant
*leaving a like👍Au👀✅fully watched*
Thanks mate. I agree. Just marketing bullshit
Keyless fob ??? Meh..... I can take it or leave it. I WANT CRUISE CONTROL !!!! The bike is great in the twisties, but crossing the plains on the interstate without cruise is a pain.
@@wwb7091 I agree. Cruise control on this bike would be awesome.
Unfortunate. I think a Harley fob is like $80? so not as bad as $500. I don't particularly like the fob system because if you want to move your bike around in neutral say in your garage the alarm (well the flashing light portion of the alarm) goes off. If I lost a fob I'd have to type a long pin number using clunky indicators to scroll through numbers so that would be annoying too.
When I say the alarm goes off I mean if you don't have your fob with you in the garage for whatever reason.
@@aussiemotolife347 ahhh ok.
I would be happier with a key. The fob has advantages but the key is tried and tested.
I would gladly trade my fob for cruise control
My old bike has no key. If I ever park it somewhere and am worried someone will be man enough to start it and ride off I'll just pull the spark plug wire and put it in my pocket. Sorry you lost your transponder and replacement is way too expensive.
Thanks Ian. I still haven’t replaced it. Been busy.
Bloody ridiculous idea nothing wrong with a key why make one more fail point other than to make money great vid mate cheers
I agree. Thanks mate. Bloody stupid. Keys work so why mess with it.
Is there something to hate ? I can’t wait to watch it
I moved the prem. Now on in 30 minutes.
Just bought one today, and I already hate the key system on this bike. So unnecessary.
What ever you do, do not lose the key fob. $550 au to replace it.
Got me thinking now 🤔
You have a PIN for your Harley. It's better at least.
@@hachewie yeah but not on my ninja lol 😂
@@RidingHumboldtCounty Hahahah. Yep. Don't lose your FOB.
Agreed. Utterly pointless on a motorcycle. Tech for tech sake.
I miss the old fashioned key.
Bike sounds good. What exhaust do you have?
Thanks mate. Two Brothers.
@@hachewie cheers & ride safe
@@matfejpatrusin4550 thanks mate. You too.
With HD if you haven’t got your fob you just enter your PIN number and wollah
That’s a much better system.
I dont get how you lose the key. There is a lockable box on the left of you
I think I put it in my jacket pocket and didn’t zip it up. I never wanted to leave it in the glove box in case I got lazy and left it there. I wish I knew how I lost it then I would have found it.
@@hachewie so basicly its you and not the motorbike 😂😂. Lost my key for my toyota.. And its pretty much same costs as kawasaki.. Fortunately i found the key again. But yea.
Hate is a word with 4 letters, if you rearrange them you get heat, which is not cool man.
If you rearrange them again you get tahe and that’s good.
Really makes you think…
@@shanefunnell7241 Hahahahaha Yep.
I completely disagree with all of your responses.
Fair enough.
Many people must like these features otherwise they would not have put them on the bike. I just crashed my bike yesterday. I know I will miss it dearly as I love the bike on the whole.
Keyless in anything is stupid specialy in a bike
I agree.