I also wanted to say thank you for making a step by step guide. Its a ton of extra work for you, but for newer players its a godsend. This game is intimdating. I learned the basics last time, but didnt touch any real crafting. I hope this league i can catch up to the new mechanics quickly, and maybe delve a bit further into crafting and mechanics this time. Im also super excited to experience poe 2 for the first time with everyone. Games usually always have a special time in the beginning when everyone is active and happy, learning together. Long story short, i appreciate the hand holding my friend , ty
yesss i followed you in previous leagues for LS raider and had a great time with the build. gonna do this! super excited. thank you for the in depth guide.
Sweet. Had an unscheduled year and few month break from POE(dont have drinks by PC) I followed your build for ls raider as for my 2nd go through poe, and had such a good time. I get my new pc tomorrow and canty waitt to get back to it, following your new guide. Thx FD
struggled a little with this at the beginning of maps, but its finally coming together and even the non crit version right now feels pretty strong, cant wait to when i can swap to crit version, good guide and build, thanks man
Hey dude, just a heads up, I'm going to feature you again on the curation list and I'll make sure to link all of your subsequent updates etc for people to refer to. Understandably there are changes to melee for this configuration but I think you guide is great and rock solid with great explanation. Let me know if you have any concerns :)
Hey. Only concern so far is either they have put the wrong lightning strike damage change in the patch notes or it has been gutted. It looks like they have applied the same damage % to vaal and normal lightning strike whereas lightning strike should be around double damage I am probably doing a similar build this league but might switch lightning strike to vaal smite. I will bring a new guide out this league anyway Good Luck with your build
@@FuzzyDuckzy no worries. I'll make sure to link it to this on the main video in addition to the links for this build and all your level vods etc. Appreciate your stuff each league man.
@@nono-qi4ox How is LS meta? Literally below 0.5% playrate on poeninja within a week of last league. Why would anyone meta abusing play LS, when he can literally play CF/Reap or even better Splitting Steel which is by far most dominant Champion build at the moment and is shitting on LS completely. LS after nerfs in 3.18 is not meta at all, yet still ofc viable for people who want to play off-meta builds. Everything melee based atm except Boneshatter is considered off meta. :D Melee sucks, even said in the video.
I was looking for a melee build, and I found your video, I always wanted to do an LS, but I lacked the courage, but now I'm going to do it, it will be my league starter and maybe give it a min/max!! Sorry for the bad English, I'm Brazilian.
I can't believe you don't get bored of playing the same build again, again and again!! xD Anyways, great vid and guide, you are a trully master on this archetype of build :)
didnt give LS much of a chance once, it was fun. im thinking this will be fun for a alt. thanks for the vid, keep up the good work. hope the leveling guide is clear.. i R is bad =D
This seems like a super cool 2nd build once you can make the initial currency for the crit version. TBH struggling to break out of yellow maps for the starter sounds awful. Thanks for putting this build on my radar tho, the build looks exactly my style, just not gonna put myself through a scuffed starter.
I think you misunderstood me. It cleared the entire atlas and got the first 2 voidstones on a 5 link and life/resistance gear. I’m not sure I say it gets stuck in yellow maps you should be through yellow maps and into reds on about 10c
League is about to start and I still cant decide to do my League start Guardian farming with your LS or RF lol. Whyy your awesome video make it so hard for me to decide!
Yeah they do. Ill buy or ask friend to carry for those. Happy to get to the ability to do The formed invitation farming in like a sub 15min set rotation and be happy with that. I think LS has higher boss damage, but i am not fully sure.
Big fan of your guides and of LS so this is ideal. Was thinking of going SSF this league though and the 2 ichimonjis might take a while, how is it before/without them? Thanks for the guide anyway!
Seems like a slower league mechanic and not anti melee like sanctum and with the likelihood of overturned necropolis mobs I feel like perseverance grace determ is gonna be cozy for soft core. Seems like the right time to try it out
Payed this build when it was meta and really enjoyed it. But nowadays it feels like too much invstment for just an "ok" build. Question, you don't use Volatility anymore in the crit version, right ? The PoB still has it on the main link and it got me confused
Yeah you would still use volatility as it is more damage than ele damage with attacks and helps get bigger shocks Agreed the skill is not a top tier skill, but I do not enjoy a lot of the meta builds at the moment so just playing for fun
@@FuzzyDuckzy Right. I always understimate this volatility gem. For cold and fire parts it's barely à 10% increase. But for the lightning part it's about 40% increase because minimum lightning damage is already very low
Cons in my opinion is it does not feel great in the first 3-4 acts as you have to play Helix. It is melee so even with multistrike it can feel clunky at times. If you do not understand how to get single target damage as explained in the video map bosses will feel bad When you can get used to the build it can clear the atlas on pretty bad gear and a few cheap uniques. Scaling to Ubers will be doable but very expensive as DPS windows are limited on some fights so you will need more damage than other builds
Currently 75 and having a blast playing LS. Have a perseverance stashed already but the voices amulet is a bit too pricey. When do you think should we start gearing up for the crit set up?
I would probably just go for good rares then start farming for crit transition. I'm actually finding it more profitable to farm lower tier maps as I can do them 3 times as quick
I will be bringing out a new guide. Build will be similar but might be replacing lightning strike with smite as patch notes look like lightning strike is actually worse this league, but this could be a typo in the patch notes
I remember playing LS Berserker many leagues ago. Would that also work? Love Berserker and you get access to the totem nodes from chieftain via forbidden jewels. It'd also fix the damage "problems" - although you lose a lot of tankiness.
The way this build works in the budget version really only works as champion, because of the way the swords combo with the ascendancy, aura levels and perseverance. I am sure with investment Zerker would work but not sure I would want to league start it
Hello, just a thought. Im currently almost 100% sure that i wanna try out Frost Blades Trickster. But still cant get rid of a thought, that LS Champ might feel a bit or a lot of better on a similar concept. Especially in tankiness. I played Zerker LS back in a the day and Venom Gyre Deadeye aswell, so leveling and mechanics, also crafting is quite known to me, while Frost Blades with Trickster is quite a blind shot, although i already tried leveling Trickster and as LS it felt smooth af after A3-A4. My main goal is smooth Atlas progress and being able to aquire all Voidstones on a budget, also stay off the meta a bit, where i think LS is less popular atm. Any thoughts?
Frost Blades can probably scale better. I am not sold on it this league as Yoke of Suffering is a ton of damage on the build and it is now locked behind T17 maps. I think this build works well to get atlas and 2 voidstones but you do have to switch to crit to do Uber Elder and Maven comfortably
Thanks for the reply. Yea this is what I kinda expect. Double voidstone + some investment. T17 Yoke quite invokes to me that price will be way higher, which is next to Heatshiver mandatory upgrade. Also both builds will require some decent Claw crafting, numbers on that skill are similar. What i find comfortable on LS is the Champion itself, along with the possibility of playing cheap uniques for quite long. I'm already familiar with LS working but i really crave for hearing some strong arguement for Frost Blades this league. Thanks a lot again! @@FuzzyDuckzy
I haven't played since 3.21 when i really enjoyed you RoA champ build. Has anything significant changed for that? (apologies if this has been answered a lot)
Nothing has really changed if you enjoyed it the build should work the same. I think I updated the POB in the video recently to be up to date with the most recent patch
Thank you for the in depth guide. I'm pretty sold on this as a league starter. But I'm a one character per league type of person, so my question is on the end game scalability. What kind of DPS and EHP can we expect if say 50-100Div is invested into it?
for that money you could probably build a doryanis prototype character with the unique shield that gives you 6 keystones (I forget the name). It would be tons of DPS and pretty good defences. I have not tried this version before but you can find a lot of them on POE Ninja
ive been having a rough go at this build the last 2 days, prepping for league start. the clear is amazing with a 5l in t16's, takes maybe a minute and a half to get to the boss. but...i cant figure out single target for the life of me, tanky yellows, essence, beasts and map bosses take upwards of 25-30 seconds to kill. other than that its really been fun learning something new.
Bosses you need to make sure adrenaline is up, drop totem, use smite, drop your 2 x Vaal LS and it should only take a few seconds to get bosses down. T14+ it will be slower but should not be anywhere near 25 seconds. It might just be getting the rotation correct when you get to bosses
@@FuzzyDuckzy admittedly havent been using totem, also missed the part on staying a distance from the target to ensure the projectiles hit with the additional strike. ill do those two things and see what i need to adjust from there. looking forward to starting this build, thanks for all the work youve put in documenting this, the pob is top tier s+ quality.
I’ve not played with it enough but I think early it’s not a great idea. Single target will be less and you might have to give up the Vaal portion since it might be very expensive to buy or craft
Hey fuzzy. let me ask ya... im a worn off TS player and want to play something new, but i only play ts and LA because the rich boys play it. Can i make good currency with this build? because the early you get going, the better right?
It maps pretty quick and the non crit version could be built pretty cheap and fast. The main reason I am playing this build is because I think it can get to making currency very quickly as I only have 3 days to play at league start before I am away for 5 days.
I think there will be zones where you will probably die if you put the wrong mods on the wrong monsters. I think Acts 1-2 are gonna be rough, from there I think it will be fine
I don't think it's very good as proj damage is only 60% of our damage then you lose a ton of that when returning and lose a gem slot. You also then can't run point blank
@@sonofacrapface I might have a look. I can’t really drop cwdt as you can’t left click skills. Is it really 17% more dps when only half the skills damage is proj?
Can it farm blight on the budget ? :) And is it a build, that can keep being upgraded, and still make more and more damage? Cause I only wanna make 1 char per league :) so if it can do all content on invest I will run it
Yeah pretty much any build can do blight if you know how to set up towers. There are versions that can scale very far with investment but it’s not something I am going to do as I like to play lots of builds a league. Doryani prototype can be used to scale the damage in a few different ways but you would have to see what other people do for this as is not something I’m that familiar with
@FuzzyDuckzy thanks for the answer. I have never tries LS before, but I wanna try it. As long as it can do T16 maps, endgame bosses and farming strats :)
Hey. Nothing changed on the RoA build. Snipers mark nerf should not affect it and no other items or skills got affected. If you enjoyed it last league it should work the same again
That was referring to the reduced % mana cost that used to be unveiled from the unqiue betraytal flask. The minus mana cost elreon craft is still in the game along with the eldritch implicit on helmets for reduced aman cost of attacks
@@mikeedwards5274 no it won’t affect the build it doesn’t use the flask mod. Once you get a mana reservation cluster or go for the mana reservation mastery you will be able to run 3 auras once you have the unique swords
What is this like for guardian farming? Done it previous two leagues with SRS and looking for something new. Icespear totem i was thinking of, but so squishy. This build looks real solid, but unsure how wl itll do for league start guarsian farming?
Depends on how much the breach amulet is on whether the non crit entry level version can cope as it is a big damage boost. The non crit version can farm guardians once fully upgraded but would probably switch to crit personally. Crit version should be fine on the gear in the POB as this is similar to the gear I had a few leagues ago when I was farming destructive play and guardian invitations. I did a good few rounds of destructive play in my practice runs and it felt ok. DPS is not amazing but defences are pretty forgiving
@@FuzzyDuckzy yeah I see. Thank you for your reply :) So when you say fully upgraded you are referring to the upgrades in the "Big Upgrades" section - which, looking at it is quite a bit. Just the amulet on day 2-3 is a couple of divs. So the non crit version probs not. Hrmmm it might be a bit of a stretch for asap league start guardian farming for the crit version too.
@@Freexers Yeah Unfortunately melee has to have more DPS than other builds for guardians and bossing as you will not have perma uptime on DPS since you have to move a lot. You can do it on much cheaper gear but not sure it will feel that great. Crit verison is really just the claw everything else should be fairly reasonable.
@@Freexers If you want to buy it very expensive as there will not be many on the market. To craft a proper one 6-8 divines. I am going to try and create a new POB for an entry level crit version which should be much more affordable I just need to make sure it will actually do enough damage
Your background video dmg&def is seems amazing , i dont know how much invesment would ichimonji version on day1-3 but if its super cheap pre-crit thats okay but i dont see myself playing ls but not using claw/whirlingblades. Apart from that as always amazing video and build
Hitting big damage on non crit relies on the breech amulet for it to really shine.. It can still do good without it but you have to try and get flat damage on jewellery. I left that item out the pobs in case it's crazy money
Need to retedt it but I didn't like whirlwind blades a few leagues ago playing Ls. Ok for wide open maps but jump/teleport skills feel so much better when there obstacles or for boss fights
I think HH Would be worse than perseverance as you lose onslaught and quite a lot of flat damage. HH damage buffs also scale around phys damage and we do not have any base phys damage in the build.
Can you recommend me some duelist/marauder builds that work well with headhunter? Im looking for builds in these Two classes because are the ones I've already done the levelling, but cant find / dont know which builds are good with HH ;(
@@wesso27 I am not sure as I do not really like HH any more after the change to soul eater. I would check POE Ninja and see what builds people are using HH for on those classes
Any reason this can’t do harvest? I know not every build is meant to do all content and harvest monster can get kinda mean and rippy. Plus with the new league mechanic, just wanted to make sure I would be tanky enough. Guide was great!
I like Raider but I feel the budget version of champ feels much better than the budget version on Raider, however with investment they are pretty similar. I just think outside of being a comfy league starter Raider needs to offer more from her asdcendancy as the only way to play really is frenzy stacking
Ea ballista will be cheaper to get 4 voidstones it all depends what you want from league start. I hate the delayed EA ballista gameplay so would play anything else, but that's just me.
Projectiles are too slow and clear is much worse from my experience. The cluster jewel would give single target but that is giving up 4 passive points. That combined with the reduced damage efficiency compared to normal LS I am not sure it is worth it. Getting a vaal version will also be expensive
@@gonzaga_7874 it’s nit unplayable but it’s certainly nowhere near top tier. The fact only 0.2% of people league started the skill last league shows you it’s not the strongest build in town
Raider is a much rougher start and you probably cannot swap to lightning strike until early maps. I personally do not love Raider until it has quite a bit of gear whereas champ feels a bit better early and certainly more tanky.
@@FuzzyDuckzy what about end game, specifically vs bosses coz that's what I remember struggling with last time I played poe with LS, does champ's tankiness still come up then
@@biggstarr bossing is not great on either so if you like to run a lot of bosses it’s probably not a good build for that. Champ is probably better as you can face tank a bit more
I went to test on standard so I geared similar to the crit pob. Unfortunately I have only ever gone down to 250! I killed Aul and did some cities easily, especially since I do not know the mechanics for Aul's. I would think you would be ok to 300 ish, but it will certainly not go deep
@@FuzzyDuckzy Thank you for the reply! I am newish to PoE (current season was my first) and I want a good league starter to get me more currency than I made last time
@@dyrinn45 oh ok in that case it is definitely able to go deep enough to make currency, but I’m sure there are better delve builds if that’s what you want to do
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I also wanted to say thank you for making a step by step guide. Its a ton of extra work for you, but for newer players its a godsend. This game is intimdating. I learned the basics last time, but didnt touch any real crafting. I hope this league i can catch up to the new mechanics quickly, and maybe delve a bit further into crafting and mechanics this time. Im also super excited to experience poe 2 for the first time with everyone. Games usually always have a special time in the beginning when everyone is active and happy, learning together.
Long story short, i appreciate the hand holding my friend , ty
Thanks I'm glad you appreciate the extra effort that goes into the video. I'm excited for POE 2 if it ever gets released 🤣
yesss i followed you in previous leagues for LS raider and had a great time with the build. gonna do this! super excited. thank you for the in depth guide.
2 weeks in, how do you like it?
Sweet. Had an unscheduled year and few month break from POE(dont have drinks by PC)
I followed your build for ls raider as for my 2nd go through poe, and had such a good time.
I get my new pc tomorrow and canty waitt to get back to it, following your new guide. Thx FD
I think you have the most transparent build guides on youtube. Big respect, ty!
struggled a little with this at the beginning of maps, but its finally coming together and even the non crit version right now feels pretty strong, cant wait to when i can swap to crit version, good guide and build, thanks man
Hey dude, just a heads up, I'm going to feature you again on the curation list and I'll make sure to link all of your subsequent updates etc for people to refer to. Understandably there are changes to melee for this configuration but I think you guide is great and rock solid with great explanation. Let me know if you have any concerns :)
Hey. Only concern so far is either they have put the wrong lightning strike damage change in the patch notes or it has been gutted. It looks like they have applied the same damage % to vaal and normal lightning strike whereas lightning strike should be around double damage
I am probably doing a similar build this league but might switch lightning strike to vaal smite.
I will bring a new guide out this league anyway
Good Luck with your build
@@FuzzyDuckzy no worries. I'll make sure to link it to this on the main video in addition to the links for this build and all your level vods etc. Appreciate your stuff each league man.
Thanks for the guide, I'm going to start the league with this today and I look good!
I wanted to play off meta this time, with a lightning skill and you have a perfect build for me ! Thank you !
Not sure lightning strike is off meta.... Lol
@@nono-qi4ox How is LS meta?
Literally below 0.5% playrate on poeninja within a week of last league.
Why would anyone meta abusing play LS, when he can literally play CF/Reap or even better Splitting Steel which is by far most dominant Champion build at the moment and is shitting on LS completely.
LS after nerfs in 3.18 is not meta at all, yet still ofc viable for people who want to play off-meta builds.
Everything melee based atm except Boneshatter is considered off meta. :D
Melee sucks, even said in the video.
thanks for going in detail for the crit version. This will help me a lot. It is decided. LS Champ it is 🙂
been testing this the last week. League starter and agreed, LS has felt clean. Nice to see some Melee love as well!
Some suckers have to play melee I gues :)
Banger video for league start as always. Fuzzy guides always deliver.
I was looking for a melee build, and I found your video, I always wanted to do an LS, but I lacked the courage, but now I'm going to do it, it will be my league starter and maybe give it a min/max!!
Sorry for the bad English, I'm Brazilian.
Looking forward to the crafting video! Grave crafting seems like we're going to end up with some pretty insane stuff
I can't believe you don't get bored of playing the same build again, again and again!! xD
Anyways, great vid and guide, you are a trully master on this archetype of build :)
I haven’t league started LS for 4-5 leagues now so though it was time for a revisit ☺️
didnt give LS much of a chance once, it was fun. im thinking this will be fun for a alt. thanks for the vid, keep up the good work. hope the leveling guide is clear.. i R is bad =D
This seems like a super cool 2nd build once you can make the initial currency for the crit version. TBH struggling to break out of yellow maps for the starter sounds awful. Thanks for putting this build on my radar tho, the build looks exactly my style, just not gonna put myself through a scuffed starter.
I think you misunderstood me. It cleared the entire atlas and got the first 2 voidstones on a 5 link and life/resistance gear. I’m not sure I say it gets stuck in yellow maps you should be through yellow maps and into reds on about 10c
Can confirmed used scuffed gear and could slay t11s without much issue :). Ran it on standard just swapped to the gear on a already built character
League is about to start and I still cant decide to do my League start Guardian farming with your LS or RF lol. Whyy your awesome video make it so hard for me to decide!
Haha both are what I would call mid starters. They both start really well but then need a bit of investment to comfortably do Uber elder and maven
Yeah they do. Ill buy or ask friend to carry for those. Happy to get to the ability to do The formed invitation farming in like a sub 15min set rotation and be happy with that.
I think LS has higher boss damage, but i am not fully sure.
LS build is super fun... Even better when you get nimis ring
Big fan of your guides and of LS so this is ideal. Was thinking of going SSF this league though and the 2 ichimonjis might take a while, how is it before/without them? Thanks for the guide anyway!
It can get to early reds without the but it might feel rough without perseverance and the swords. Personally I wouldn’t want to start it in SSF
@@FuzzyDuckzy makes sense. Thanks for the reply
never play melee but you got me sold on this. better be good fuzzy im going all in on this. if not im rerolling CF champ...
It's fine but it is melee so it's not top tier, but if you like lightning strike you will enjoy it
Seems like a slower league mechanic and not anti melee like sanctum and with the likelihood of overturned necropolis mobs I feel like perseverance grace determ is gonna be cozy for soft core. Seems like the right time to try it out
Payed this build when it was meta and really enjoyed it. But nowadays it feels like too much invstment for just an "ok" build.
Question, you don't use Volatility anymore in the crit version, right ? The PoB still has it on the main link and it got me confused
Yeah you would still use volatility as it is more damage than ele damage with attacks and helps get bigger shocks
Agreed the skill is not a top tier skill, but I do not enjoy a lot of the meta builds at the moment so just playing for fun
@@FuzzyDuckzy Right. I always understimate this volatility gem. For cold and fire parts it's barely à 10% increase. But for the lightning part it's about 40% increase because minimum lightning damage is already very low
Started two days ago with this build and love it. At what time would you swap to crit?
Glad you are enjoying it. Once you are level 85+ and get a decent crit claw you can swap
@@FuzzyDuckzy Thanks a lot! Gonna keep grinding that one level then :D
Hi what are the main cons of this build , and with what problems players firstly playing this build may face ?
Cons in my opinion is it does not feel great in the first 3-4 acts as you have to play Helix.
It is melee so even with multistrike it can feel clunky at times.
If you do not understand how to get single target damage as explained in the video map bosses will feel bad
When you can get used to the build it can clear the atlas on pretty bad gear and a few cheap uniques.
Scaling to Ubers will be doable but very expensive as DPS windows are limited on some fights so you will need more damage than other builds
@@FuzzyDuckzy ok , thx for answer
Currently 75 and having a blast playing LS. Have a perseverance stashed already but the voices amulet is a bit too pricey. When do you think should we start gearing up for the crit set up?
I would probably just go for good rares then start farming for crit transition. I'm actually finding it more profitable to farm lower tier maps as I can do them 3 times as quick
@FuzzyDuckzy thank you Fuzzy! Was looking forward to a proper LS start and this guide series did not disappoint
gonna try this out in HC but got some nice shields laying around any recommendations on nodes to take instead of the dual weild?
If you are going to use ichimomjis you have to dual wield really as you lose too much DPS
Hi, I'm going to play an LS field this season thanks to your video, do you have a special filter for LS??
Many thanks for this very good guide.
Yeah filters are in the video description
Hey, are u going to update this build for 3.25? I think it'll get a "have to play build" :) thanks for the guide and the leveling guid
I will be bringing out a new guide. Build will be similar but might be replacing lightning strike with smite as patch notes look like lightning strike is actually worse this league, but this could be a typo in the patch notes
@@FuzzyDuckzy Cool, looking foreward to it
Would this build be SSF viable or will this be a struggle to try?
Not really the uniques are pretty mandatory. They are all common enough but could take you a while to get them
I remember playing LS Berserker many leagues ago. Would that also work? Love Berserker and you get access to the totem nodes from chieftain via forbidden jewels. It'd also fix the damage "problems" - although you lose a lot of tankiness.
The way this build works in the budget version really only works as champion, because of the way the swords combo with the ascendancy, aura levels and perseverance. I am sure with investment Zerker would work but not sure I would want to league start it
Hello,
just a thought.
Im currently almost 100% sure that i wanna try out Frost Blades Trickster.
But still cant get rid of a thought, that LS Champ might feel a bit or a lot of better on a similar concept.
Especially in tankiness.
I played Zerker LS back in a the day and Venom Gyre Deadeye aswell, so leveling and mechanics, also crafting is quite known to me,
while Frost Blades with Trickster is quite a blind shot, although i already tried leveling Trickster and as LS it felt smooth af after A3-A4.
My main goal is smooth Atlas progress and being able to aquire all Voidstones on a budget, also stay off the meta a bit,
where i think LS is less popular atm.
Any thoughts?
Frost Blades can probably scale better. I am not sold on it this league as Yoke of Suffering is a ton of damage on the build and it is now locked behind T17 maps. I think this build works well to get atlas and 2 voidstones but you do have to switch to crit to do Uber Elder and Maven comfortably
Thanks for the reply.
Yea this is what I kinda expect. Double voidstone + some investment.
T17 Yoke quite invokes to me that price will be way higher, which is next to Heatshiver mandatory upgrade.
Also both builds will require some decent Claw crafting, numbers on that skill are similar.
What i find comfortable on LS is the Champion itself, along with the possibility of playing cheap uniques for quite long.
I'm already familiar with LS working but i really crave for hearing some strong arguement for Frost Blades this league.
Thanks a lot again!
@@FuzzyDuckzy
as a ls fan, thanks for sharing before necropolis
I haven't played since 3.21 when i really enjoyed you RoA champ build. Has anything significant changed for that? (apologies if this has been answered a lot)
Nothing has really changed if you enjoyed it the build should work the same. I think I updated the POB in the video recently to be up to date with the most recent patch
Thank you for the in depth guide. I'm pretty sold on this as a league starter. But I'm a one character per league type of person, so my question is on the end game scalability. What kind of DPS and EHP can we expect if say 50-100Div is invested into it?
for that money you could probably build a doryanis prototype character with the unique shield that gives you 6 keystones (I forget the name). It would be tons of DPS and pretty good defences. I have not tried this version before but you can find a lot of them on POE Ninja
Hey, thanks for effort, might give it a try! Is this build SSF viable?
Not really as the uniques are how the build scales on a budget. Is is playable without them but not very good
Do you see yourself using yoke of suffering as the endgame amulet?
Probably not especially since it now drops from T17 maps so likely to be very expensive
ive been having a rough go at this build the last 2 days, prepping for league start.
the clear is amazing with a 5l in t16's, takes maybe a minute and a half to get to the boss.
but...i cant figure out single target for the life of me, tanky yellows, essence, beasts and map bosses take upwards of 25-30 seconds to kill.
other than that its really been fun learning something new.
Bosses you need to make sure adrenaline is up, drop totem, use smite, drop your 2 x Vaal LS and it should only take a few seconds to get bosses down. T14+ it will be slower but should not be anywhere near 25 seconds. It might just be getting the rotation correct when you get to bosses
@@FuzzyDuckzy admittedly havent been using totem, also missed the part on staying a distance from the target to ensure the projectiles hit with the additional strike. ill do those two things and see what i need to adjust from there. looking forward to starting this build, thanks for all the work youve put in documenting this, the pob is top tier s+ quality.
Have you considered using the arcing version? I absolutely loved it last league
Not really as it will be too expensive at league start to get an arcing Vaal gem. I wasn’t a huge fan of it last league but maybe I built it wrong
Hi fuzzy, it will be an update for 3.25? I would like to play this build in boat league
I will be updating the build just waiting for some clarity on the patch notes for LS
@@FuzzyDuckzy niceeee ty bro
Did you see the new glove the gives you 1% attack speed/fortify? could good no?
Not worth losing the Eldritch implicit mods.
Not really you can get 16% attack speed or so with essences and have eldritch mods
What do you think of LS of Arcing ? is it also a viable option?
I’ve not played with it enough but I think early it’s not a great idea. Single target will be less and you might have to give up the Vaal portion since it might be very expensive to buy or craft
I wonder if you could transition to nimis/MS? Maybe a little later in the league when you save up the currency
Yeah don’t see why not
filter failed for the sound where can find the file ?
filterblade website. I will probably change the sound though just so people do not have the same issue
Hey fuzzy. let me ask ya... im a worn off TS player and want to play something new, but i only play ts and LA because the rich boys play it. Can i make good currency with this build? because the early you get going, the better right?
It maps pretty quick and the non crit version could be built pretty cheap and fast. The main reason I am playing this build is because I think it can get to making currency very quickly as I only have 3 days to play at league start before I am away for 5 days.
@@FuzzyDuckzy thanks, mate! Have a great league start!
How do you think the levelling process will be with the amped up zones?
I think there will be zones where you will probably die if you put the wrong mods on the wrong monsters. I think Acts 1-2 are gonna be rough, from there I think it will be fine
Why not the new warden ?
I just do not like the look of early game on Warden
is returning projectiles good for this build?? why choose not to use it?
I don't think it's very good as proj damage is only 60% of our damage then you lose a ton of that when returning and lose a gem slot. You also then can't run point blank
Hi Fuzzy. Lovely guide but, why no Sniper's Mark..?
You can add it in but it puts too much socket pressure as it would need to go with mark on hit and lifetap
@@FuzzyDuckzy If you lose faster attacks or CWDT you have 3 spare gemslots. 17% more DPS seems worth it
@@sonofacrapface I might have a look. I can’t really drop cwdt as you can’t left click skills. Is it really 17% more dps when only half the skills damage is proj?
Looks like it is about 12% more damage so definitely worth fitting in. Thanks I will amend the POBs
also, in regards to Molten Shell; I just play one more note on the piano, not a problem for me but I understand it could be for some
NS build, where can I look at the crit version if u have made the POB etc for what?
I am still working on the POB as I think I can get a lot more damage out of it. There should be a rough POB in the video description
Can it farm blight on the budget ? :)
And is it a build, that can keep being upgraded, and still make more and more damage? Cause I only wanna make 1 char per league :) so if it can do all content on invest I will run it
Yeah pretty much any build can do blight if you know how to set up towers. There are versions that can scale very far with investment but it’s not something I am going to do as I like to play lots of builds a league. Doryani prototype can be used to scale the damage in a few different ways but you would have to see what other people do for this as is not something I’m that familiar with
@FuzzyDuckzy thanks for the answer. I have never tries LS before, but I wanna try it. As long as it can do T16 maps, endgame bosses and farming strats :)
Sorry for not video related question, but can we expect roa update for 3.24? If it needs even an update ofc, thabks!
Hey. Nothing changed on the RoA build. Snipers mark nerf should not affect it and no other items or skills got affected. If you enjoyed it last league it should work the same again
Thank you for the great guide Fuzzy
Yeah does this effect this build at all will you still be able to run the 3 50 cost auras?
That was referring to the reduced % mana cost that used to be unveiled from the unqiue betraytal flask. The minus mana cost elreon craft is still in the game along with the eldritch implicit on helmets for reduced aman cost of attacks
@@mikeedwards5274 no it won’t affect the build it doesn’t use the flask mod. Once you get a mana reservation cluster or go for the mana reservation mastery you will be able to run 3 auras once you have the unique swords
@@FuzzyDuckzy Awesome can't wait to play this :)
What is this like for guardian farming?
Done it previous two leagues with SRS and looking for something new. Icespear totem i was thinking of, but so squishy. This build looks real solid, but unsure how wl itll do for league start guarsian farming?
Depends on how much the breach amulet is on whether the non crit entry level version can cope as it is a big damage boost. The non crit version can farm guardians once fully upgraded but would probably switch to crit personally. Crit version should be fine on the gear in the POB as this is similar to the gear I had a few leagues ago when I was farming destructive play and guardian invitations. I did a good few rounds of destructive play in my practice runs and it felt ok. DPS is not amazing but defences are pretty forgiving
@@FuzzyDuckzy yeah I see. Thank you for your reply :)
So when you say fully upgraded you are referring to the upgrades in the "Big Upgrades" section - which, looking at it is quite a bit. Just the amulet on day 2-3 is a couple of divs. So the non crit version probs not. Hrmmm it might be a bit of a stretch for asap league start guardian farming for the crit version too.
@@Freexers Yeah Unfortunately melee has to have more DPS than other builds for guardians and bossing as you will not have perma uptime on DPS since you have to move a lot. You can do it on much cheaper gear but not sure it will feel that great.
Crit verison is really just the claw everything else should be fairly reasonable.
@@FuzzyDuckzy If you remember how much is the crit claw like day 3 - the first week?
@@Freexers If you want to buy it very expensive as there will not be many on the market. To craft a proper one 6-8 divines. I am going to try and create a new POB for an entry level crit version which should be much more affordable I just need to make sure it will actually do enough damage
Your background video dmg&def is seems amazing , i dont know how much invesment would ichimonji version on day1-3 but if its super cheap pre-crit thats okay but i dont see myself playing ls but not using claw/whirlingblades. Apart from that as always amazing video and build
Hitting big damage on non crit relies on the breech amulet for it to really shine.. It can still do good without it but you have to try and get flat damage on jewellery. I left that item out the pobs in case it's crazy money
Need to retedt it but I didn't like whirlwind blades a few leagues ago playing Ls. Ok for wide open maps but jump/teleport skills feel so much better when there obstacles or for boss fights
What is the best farming for this build?
Depends how good your build is really. I struggle with T17s and juices expedition. I liked harvest the best as the loot is very easy to sell
@@FuzzyDuckzy appreciate the answer. ty
vey dedicated, i try to use your build in my 4th build in this game, i wonder if can assist me on twitch if any trouble
can i use a headhunter in the belt slot?
I think HH Would be worse than perseverance as you lose onslaught and quite a lot of flat damage. HH damage buffs also scale around phys damage and we do not have any base phys damage in the build.
Can you recommend me some duelist/marauder builds that work well with headhunter? Im looking for builds in these Two classes because are the ones I've already done the levelling, but cant find / dont know which builds are good with HH ;(
@@wesso27 I am not sure as I do not really like HH any more after the change to soul eater. I would check POE Ninja and see what builds people are using HH for on those classes
Any reason this can’t do harvest? I know not every build is meant to do all content and harvest monster can get kinda mean and rippy. Plus with the new league mechanic, just wanted to make sure I would be tanky enough. Guide was great!
Harvest should be pretty good as you should be able to build up Vaal charges ready to release them when the T3 monsters spawn in each plot
@@FuzzyDuckzy right on, easy enough. Thank you!
Is this build tanky enough to perform decent in HC?
Yeah it is pretty good but probably needs a vitality as the only health sustain is from leech
@@FuzzyDuckzy alright man thanks for the build and gonna try to get a vitality in, do you have any recommendations on what to take out for a vitality?
Do you think champ is superior to raider at the moment?
I like Raider but I feel the budget version of champ feels much better than the budget version on Raider, however with investment they are pretty similar. I just think outside of being a comfy league starter Raider needs to offer more from her asdcendancy as the only way to play really is frenzy stacking
Ls champion or ea explosive ballista ?
Ea ballista will be cheaper to get 4 voidstones it all depends what you want from league start. I hate the delayed EA ballista gameplay so would play anything else, but that's just me.
@@FuzzyDuckzy thx
why not lightning strike of arcing with Follow-Through?
Projectiles are too slow and clear is much worse from my experience. The cluster jewel would give single target but that is giving up 4 passive points. That combined with the reduced damage efficiency compared to normal LS I am not sure it is worth it. Getting a vaal version will also be expensive
@@FuzzyDuckzy in my experience regular LS looked unplayable last league and of arcing changed my life, but ok! ty for answering
@@gonzaga_7874 it’s nit unplayable but it’s certainly nowhere near top tier. The fact only 0.2% of people league started the skill last league shows you it’s not the strongest build in town
@@FuzzyDuckzy for wisps in high tier was unplayable :(
can someone explain the key differences between this and raider lightning strike build, returning player who likes LS
Raider is a much rougher start and you probably cannot swap to lightning strike until early maps. I personally do not love Raider until it has quite a bit of gear whereas champ feels a bit better early and certainly more tanky.
@@FuzzyDuckzy what about end game, specifically vs bosses coz that's what I remember struggling with last time I played poe with LS, does champ's tankiness still come up then
@@biggstarr bossing is not great on either so if you like to run a lot of bosses it’s probably not a good build for that. Champ is probably better as you can face tank a bit more
Damn, the choice is hard between this and lightning arrow... 🤔
If i replace spectral helix with frost blades would be worst leveling?
Would be ok just lower single target
How deep do you think this could reasonably delve?
I honestly couldn’t tell you as I don’t really delve. I wouldn’t think it would go very deep
I went to test on standard so I geared similar to the crit pob. Unfortunately I have only ever gone down to 250! I killed Aul and did some cities easily, especially since I do not know the mechanics for Aul's. I would think you would be ok to 300 ish, but it will certainly not go deep
@@FuzzyDuckzy Thank you for the reply! I am newish to PoE (current season was my first) and I want a good league starter to get me more currency than I made last time
@@dyrinn45 oh ok in that case it is definitely able to go deep enough to make currency, but I’m sure there are better delve builds if that’s what you want to do
I get excited and then I remember that totems are still mandatory and suddenly I am not excited anymore.
It’s only 1 totem so not too bad, but yes I was so hoping for some melee buffs and as usual I feel short changed 😷
Is this HC or SC?
SC
could I go delving to 350-400 with this?
I doubt it. The crit build could scale to do it, but I think single target for the boss fights would be rough without decent investment
in the beginning you can also use the chaos recipe enhancer tool
Yeah I tend to not do chaos recipe but I would definitely recommend most players to do it and the tool is a big help
TY
Is thia build good for bossing too?
Not until you switch to crit and get a lot invested. Melee builds suck for bossing in general
Campaign lol. No one cares