This Royal Oak is not exactly what you think it is
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
- A Royal Oak isn't always a Royal Oak! We all know the 41mm icons that can be found on all sorts of wrists - but what if I tell you, that there's a better option out there?
In this video I am showing you the Audemars Piguet Royal Oak 14550 ST - a 37mm (!) version of the AP classic and definitely the BETTER choice for most of us out there :-)!
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What are your thoughts on this 'shrunken' AP Royal Oak? Would you - as a guy - go for the smaller option even though it is classed as a 'women's watch'? Would you like to see different brands offering a bigger variety in terms of size when it comes to their icons?
I think it's great that AP didn't just 'shrink and pink' it! Let me know what you think in the comments down below!
As always, thank you so much for watching this video today :-)
- Jenni ❤️
0:00 Intro
0:50 How it wears / size
2:13 On different wrist sizes
3:53 Finishing
5:50 Wearing it daily?
6:06 Water resistance issues
6:14 Movement sensitivity
6:59 Wears off quickly
7:20 My take
Thanks for the dial macro! Never seen it so close. Now I see how awesome the level of finishing is.
This is the THE royal oak to get in my opinion.. perfectly sized, stunning grey dial. The case-to-bracelet ratio and tapering is the excellent in this model (vs. other larger ROs). I wear 36-42mm watches, 40mm being the sweet spot for my wrist but this 37mm fits absolutely great. I don’t consider this a “sports watch” given the facts that you perfectly pointed out in your video but rather a cool industrial dress watch or for smart-casual wear 🙌🏻 excellent reviews always!! 😀👍🏻
Good points.
I wouldn’t buy any obscenely overpriced Royal Oaks but the 37mm is fantastic,
42mm is way to big.
My dream watch, both the tappisiere dial and the bracelet made me fall in love with it
You bring up some great points Jenni!! I have the Royal Oak 15400ST with a silver dial. It’s a fantastic piece that radiates prestige and fine craftsmanship. The only weakness with the Royal Oak is the comfort of the bracelet. There are a lot of rough edges and it does not feature a extension link like a Rolex. It is impossible to fit the bracelet so it works year round. I would recommend getting a precious metal version on a leather strap.
I agree with you; I wouldn't wear this on a daily basis and, with this COVID Era, we seldom have the opportunity to "show it off" at receptions with friends or events.
I'd wear an Omega Seamaster (Aqua Terra) over this one any time. As an everyday watch, w/o any hesitation ... and it's more than 3 1/2 times less expensive on top of that.
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I wouldn't mind the smaller size at all. With my 15300 ST at 39, it still feels just a little large at times for my wrist. I remember trying the 15400 at the AD and wow, does it ever wear large. I'm really happy you pointed out how it's the lug to lug that really highlights the watches' size on the wrist. I never realized that until you mentioned it and it's a revelation.
15300 has the best size. 39mm like the 15202.
I adore everything about it, especially the bracelet. I have the same size wrist as you and would wear this or a 34. I recently found a really cool 37 mm RO offshore chrono and sent it to AP for a full service and well you were 💯 on that point.
Good day Jenni, thank you for making these awesome vids! :)
Would you be able to cover on vintage watches like the Cartier CPCP tortue monopoussoir someday?
Description shows 14550, should update to 15450 :)
Thank you for a great review🙏. I love the AP Royal Oak😊
I have the 15450 blue dial and love it but I wouldn't wear daily for reason you stated in your review. Love the videos. Keep them coming
Love your reviews and your perspective, thank you!
Interesting take on such a classic. When I eventually pick up mine, I'll have to remember it's delicate movement, as I intended for it to have plenty of wrist time.
AP have the most beautiful bracelet i've seen.
I also like the Vacheron Constantin Overseas with the Maltese Cross motif integrated into the bracelet.
So much truth.
Thats the only reason i would put that stop sign on my wrist
Vc with the Maltese cross
Interesting Jenni, good review and very good spin with making it about one aspect (pretty much) that’s wearing it!
That of course is what we are going actually do after all! With an 8’5” wrist I have no issue with wearing 36cm to 50cm all seem to be ok, although 40cms is my sweet spot. Interesting about lug to lug I will be measuring some watches later.
My early watches were of course 36 & 37cms as standard as that was only size made! My collection houses an additional 3 vintage pieces of 36cm (Otis, Mondial and Timex) that I love!
I hope AP sent you a Royal Oak after they viewed this!!! Lol -;)
Bob
England
Enjoyed the video! What kind of lens do you use for getting those close up shots?
Favourite watch of all time. I love everything about it's design and execution. I've tried on the 38mm Chrono and it was a bit small on my wrist. I would say that it was the absolute smallest watch size that I might ever consider.
There's no fkn way this watch is worth over 15k (the price of the cheapest one you can get). Better buy a fake or a Bulova Royal oak that's only 5 thousand
Nice review, Jenni! Do most luxury watches have more delicate movements than, for example, a Seiko workhorse like the 4R36/NH36? I always thought that most mechanical movements are equally resistant to shock and sports because most have their own anti-shock systems. Would you consider Zenith as being less "delicate?"
Great review! Jenni Love this reference and would personally wear this over the 15400/15500 series. Also If im not mistaken I think this ref is the 15450st not 14550st :) Cheers, Josh
@jenni elli thank you for covering one of my favourites, 37mm is really good for smaller wrists and ... you have a really cute way of speaking the model numbers :)
I think the writing "Automatic" at the bottom of the watch perfectly fills in the dial.. making it look even better than the 41mm
I actually prefer it not to be mentioned... it is actually obvious that it is automatic 😆
@@TheTarekinho it's also obvious that it's an AP.. anyway, personal preference. ideal would be the logo, like the jumbo
@@19NJS71 That is what I was thinking about when I posted my reply, but you are comparing branding and "specs" mentioning... And no, not everybody knows about AP. They are amongst the best, but not as known as Rolex or even Patek.
Great vid. Im a regular size fella, and have owned both the 15450st and now the 15400st. I really tried, but in the end the 37mm for a dude was just too small. 41mm is 🔥 and it has presence, but in no way too big. (Unlike a 44mm RO offshore which you have to be a monster to wear)
This is one of my favourites watch designs. I'd probably never own one due to the silly price for what is in essence a delicate steel watch.
Great insight. I would like to hear more about the movement.
It’s a beautiful watch and we all know what AP is about but that price tag is horrendous for what you get in terms of specs etc.
You get an awful lot of value for the money considering if you pay 21,000 USD for a new one and then being able to sell it for 27,000+ USD immediately afterwards. That's a whole lot of value
@@dingodango1 it’s not what I meant. It wasn’t about the resell value.
@@gaborszinyei8180 I think as long as resale value is significantly higher than the retail cost, it always has to be considered when looking at overall value. I certainly wouldn't pay grey market price and say it's a good value. Only at retail do I think a royal oak is good value.
Hand finishing is expensive.
Outdated movement, outdated design paid for 4 decades ago... AP as a company relies too much on their previous investments without investing much at all in the new R&D. That’s why Omega, GS and PP will suffocate the AP brand in the future. One has to invest in its future in order to continue to be a prosperous one...
Great video, I own the 15550 and I personally think it is an everyday wear. Yes I would not wear it swimming but everything else is it is a wear.
Just bought a 15451 st, great looking watch for a smaller wrist. IMO the perfect size and profile would be 39mm 15202 though , but I agree that it cannot would worn as a daily beater watch but man it looks good.
Your videos are so relaxing to watch. Brain and beauty! Adore the watch, loathe the price. Although the size is odd, I feel it fits/sits very well on the wrist and plays bigger than the stated measurements. I think the GP Laureato brings better value for money and has a similar vibe to the RO and Nautilus.
God I love the Laureato. That is a seriously beautiful watch it’s just underrated. A very nice GP.
So chic !
I adore the Silver dial
I have the 15450 with the blue dial and its stunning. I have small wrists so its perfect for me.
I have a 7.5 inch wrist so I could probably pull off wearing the 41mm 15500ST. I love the bracelet and the screws in the bezel. I'd probably go for the black dial.
That said, if I were in the market for one, I'd probably try on both the 41mm and the 37mm, because you never know which will fit better when it wears so notoriously large.
Have the same watch! I absolutely love it!
I have a 7" wrist, and I would definitely consider the 37mm. I like less-bulky watches, but I would definitely like to try both sizes. But if it's a $10k difference I would definitely get the 37mm lol
IMO dress watches look the best when they are an understated piece that accommodates the rest of your outfit. The dial of royal oaks are outstandingly gorgeous and absolutely not “understated”. So a smaller dial size is absolutely what it’s needed for being a great dress watch.
It is a sports watch and unless you intend to use it as a sports watch there is no real point in getting the watch.
It is a watch that can be used for swimming and even diving if you wanted to.
I am totally with you. The amount of oversized watches on people's hands and what is considered a good proportion is a let down. Personally anything above 38mm for me is a no go.
Congratulations on discovering that AP markets its Royal Oak model in range of sizes. AP enthusiasts have known and appreciated this fact for many many years.😚
Love this watch. I am a guy but I generally have smaller wrist and this fits like a charm. Price wise I think it's pretty pricey, but you're right- you get what you pay for! 😉
Just got a similar one with diamond bezel. A Stunning piece, did not want to take it off.
An absolutely beautiful watch in my opinion. If I could afford one (and I really mean afford one - servicing etc.) it would definitely be a daily wearer for me. It's a watch and is meant to be worn. I would be happy to wear the 37mm, have a 36mm Rolex Explorer....... 2006, before the 'investors hijacked the market. Unfortunately, I can't afford one. Ah well........! Thanks for the great review Jenni.
Brilliant video, my favourite watch
Great wrist presence and the way the bracelet looks 👍
Jenni, I think that a watch you’d like for about half the price with much more scratch resistant metal to assuage your concerns about everyday wear would be the Chopard Alpine Eagle Eye. It’s very fine and the dial is fascinating.
Thanks Jenni for this review. While I personally love the octagonal look of the Audemar Piguet Royal Oak, as someone with a modest income, I will never be able to afford one. Is there another good quality Swiss watch brand you can recommend, which has the distinctive octagonal case shape, that is say under $2000.00? Thanks in advance for any suggestions you have.
Thank you. Did you ever speak about Longines? I would like to see a video about them. :)
been waiting for this review
I would definitely go for the smaller 37 or 38 mm versions
Well done Jenni 🎉🎉🎉👌👌👌
Hahah I love the hand-drawn red lines to show lug to lug vs case diameter
The tappisirie dial reminds me of an industrial tile like a nurses station at a hospital. Or a gymnasium.
What an insightful video. 👏
Great review Jenni.
I’m totally with you, although I completely respect the Royal Oak I find the industrial/brutalist styling just a bit too harsh for my taste. The smaller size does make it seem a bit softer though and that dial is so intricate and detailed under macro.
Funny enough the larger Royal Oak Offshore has softer lines despite its size and target market.
Love this watch and size! Currently on the wait list :)
Hey! Do you have any tips? I’d love to know because both my father and I are interested in purchasing a 37mm AP Royal Oak. I just don’t want to fly out of state for no reason. Are there any key words to say? Was it a simple process? I really need advice because we’re ready to get on the list right now. Thank you
@@Yinyang1277 I got mine earlier this year, had to wait for a year and visited the boutique thrice before I got the call. DOnt expect to walk in and walk out with a watch.
@@abaan1010 Understandable thanks for the reply. So essentially walk in and dress nice then explain the watch you're interested in. Make a deposit then walk out and visit that boutique a couple and or a few times to kind of make sure they take you more seriously? Trust me im expecting to wait a year tbh, but I just dont want to for example fly there with my dad. Go to the boutique even fly there a couple more times then wait a year just to find out they never put me in the system because I heard Rolex has done that to customers and I really dont want that to happen with AP because that alone will stop me from purchasing one if they will be that disrespectful to customers who can purchase their watch now. I just want to make sure everything is smooth. Do you think it matters what boutique I go to? Sorry its just I have my Omega seamaster and im 21, but my first real super luxury watch I want to be is an AP I just dont know if they will take me serious enough so I want to make sure my image is proper.
I just realised that the price listed on AP website is a third of what someone at Chrono24 is currently asking for. DAMN
how long do you need to wait?
Any word yet a year later?
I just noticed that the screws on the underside is not aligned (6:17)... for the price I expect them to be even if it's not visible all the time
Love the look, and I would definitely wear the 37mm (prob not 34mm) but overall I wouldn't buy one for the $. For a sports watch would want something more robust, higher WR etc. VC oversea probably.
I'm partial to the Overseas myself; same general style, price, and level of external finishing, but far less "arrogantly edgy" as you aptly stated. Plus, the movement on the Overseas is finished to a much higher level, with all bevels mirror-polished by hand.
Jenni, what do you think about the MLAikon as a (much) lower alternative to the Royal Oak?
Wrist size isn't the only determining factor on what size watch to get. You have to look at your overall build, length of your arm, size of forearm.
Jenni, I just received my steel VC blue overseas. Can you review it as a comparison in upcoming video? I think VC is underrated.
I completely prefer this size, but I would prefer a blue dateless variant.
Truth. My thoughts exactly!
Yes the no complication, blue dial is the best. This is one of the watches that a tourbillon ruined its dial.
Can I just say... YOUR ACCENT IS THE BEST! When you say Rolex.... Sounds so dang classy!
😘 thank you!!
all things considered, just 50m water resistance for a watch like this and with this tradition, is pretty disappointing in my opinion
Why? don't know about you but I never shower or go into the sea with any of my watches, so 50 metres is fine for day to day living.
@@garyboyle695 I buy my watches to wear them. I take a shower with my Rolex because I bought it with my hard earned money so that I can enjoy wearing it anytime I feel doing it. It’s the same if someone would tell me “Don’t drive your Porsche 911 every day because it’s expensive and the potholes will hurt it.”... 😂
I absolutely agree! C’mon...how hard is it to make a sports watch 100m water resistant? Whether you actually go that deep or not, it should just be an expectation for any watch in the ‘sport’ category.
@@garyboyle695 The very watch is based on the design of a porthole, it is sold as a sport watch with industrial design, and is not able to go beyond 50 meters in the sea, it's a $20.000 joke.
I agree with John Doe, I buy and use sport watches because I do everything with it, I sleep with it, I shower with it, I swim, play sports and work with it. It's the very meaning of a sport watch.
I own this exact watch and I must say I totally agree. ‘50m’ is code for ‘splash proof’ in this game. I don’t even wear mine in the shower for that reason, which is definitely a disappointment for a ‘sport’ watch. But another huge issue is how much of a scratch magnet it is. I’ve already scratched the shit out of mine, which I’m sure would be a concern for most people. But I would never buy a watch to keep in a box and I have come to terms with it.
Most beautiful watch I know. Great Gerald Genta.
As per purchase price, several Omega’s/Tudor or the like are looking pretty good!😱😎👍🏼🇦🇺
went to a store yesterday just to have a look saw something in the distance that looked like an ap turned out to be a sublet classic but tried the 38mm regular and 42mm black magic version gotta say even tho I love the look of the 42 Blackmagic I can see why I would go for a 37/38mm watch as its just a better fit for small wrists
Wooo so exciting!
@Jenni AP released last year a 34mm RO Automatic, it is beautiful and is big statment targeted at the growing female watch market! Would be amazing if you could review it!
i have a 8.75-9" wrist and i would totally get the 37mm royal oak...i wear the 36mm Palm Motif
I own a 15450 grey dial as a guy with tiny wrists (6 inches). My one gripe is the lack of fine adjustment available. My bracelet setup as it stands wears a little tight in the warmer months, but perfectly in the colder months. I added a link recently and it's now too loose for my liking, even as it's been hot lately.
Nice show....look out PRX Tissot Automatic this year!
I would take this AP over the larger 41mm Royal Oak any day as a proud member of the small to medium size wrist committee. Pretty much every watch I have ever had has had a case diameter
Beautiful watches, the price tag is absolutely insane however.
Amazing watch which I'll never be able to afford but hopefully the Tissot PRX automatic will fill the void when it gets released 😊
Wish the women’s label would bring the stupid price down on the grey market. Gonna keep on treasuring my 70s Bulova RO in the meantime.
Always wanted one of those bulovas
Less materials should mean it’s more reasonable priced 😏
@@latristessdurera8763 What a difference 30 grams of steel make damn
It’s a nice looking watch but I’m not quite understanding why this watch is as hyped up as it is right now. Great video as always Jenni.
Still not as hyped as a Rolex.
Yep! The blue dial of AP 15450 (37mm) is fetching at USD 38k atm, and the quantity advertised in Chrono24 is low compared to Rolex Daytona 116500ln.
@@garyboyle695 I might even add one further note not even as hyped as a Patek Philippe 5711 which is garbage in my mind and much to do about nothing it's like a '70s TV
I have an 8“ wrist and would consider the 39mm. It simply is a sweet spot - particularly on a watch that wears bigger than the specs indicate.
I have a 7.25 wrist and 39mm was just ok for me. I wouldn’t buy it, even if I could afford it. 8”, I wouldn’t think so.
@@rickjason215
Yeah... don't know Rick.
It's not what I'd spend that kind of money on either but I do prefer smaller timepieces.
I'm wearing my Alpinist on a jubilee atm and I wear 35mm / 36mm vintage pieces very often.
The way the RO wears? Think I'd go 39mm. 🙂
@@anthonysmith2982 It doesn’t really matter what I think, it’s what you feel comfortable with. I don’t think even like those watches and people will pay stupid money for them. What do I know?
@@rickjason215
That's sorta the way I feel too bud.
They are breathtaking in the metal. And when I handled one (it was a vintage Jumbo) I did have a 'Oh. OK. Now I get it' type experience. But at the same time... It's sooo much $, and way beyond my personal sense of the law of diminishing returns, if that makes sense.
I just have to remind myself that to some people $20-$40K is not a huge amount of money...
I'm mostly buying in the sub $1500 part of the market - so it's a moot point anyway.
But I do think watch size is an interesting topic.
I've got a Lunar Pilot - 45mm X 53mm or whatever it is. It wears like a saucer! It's comfy for me - gets a heap of 'beater' time on a bund in winter... But despite my wrist size, nothing wears as well as a piece that ᴡᴇᴀʀs ʟɪᴋᴇ a 39mm - 40mm. I don't know whether that makes me average or not - don't really care - but I do wonder how guys with 6.5 - 7“ wrists experience the same pieces - because they obviously take up more real estate than the smaller wrists so I can't help but think it must be a discomfort, since that's my experience when I 'scale up'... anyway. I'm probably speaking shite here. It's just something that I often wonder about. 🤷♂️
Cheers!
This is the only rep I'd buy, because I love this design so much. But I stick to my Seiko SNXS79K at the moment.
Hi Jenni, what do you think of Casioak mods?
I’m waiting for the 15500. I have a 7 inch wrist, so I can pull off the larger size. It’s crazy the wait list, just as bad as Rolex sports models. Ideally, I want the boutique exclusive blue dial but the salesperson told me it is impossible. Hope to get the black dial within a year if I’m lucky.
Hi Jenni, Amazing video. Love the watch but i still think 20k + for a full stainless steel 3 hand watch is astronomical. You also forgot to mention the movement is JLC based.. which is a good thing but i would expect a fully in house movement at this price point from a watch within the holy trinity. 😉 Do you agree? Take care and keep it up.
I like the blue 14790 the most. The dial layout is perfect and the case is very thin.
Hi great video. But I think some model numbers you speak about and those appear as text don’t match
Thanks for an a otherwise amazing as usual video
nearly died laughing at the
*arrows
addendum. LOL.
Hi, what watch are you wearing in the vid ?
Grtz, Peter
Great review 👏 I love the AP, I would consider the 37mm but feel that the 39mm is the sweet spot. However, my wife also thinks it is too industrial and have learnt that it is pointless buying anything that does not get the seal of approval (especially in this price range) - I like an easy life 🤣
Can't imagine not being able to buy something because of what your wife/girlfriend says
@@nkoonkukoo Welcome to most guys worlds 😂 but I also take seriously what my wife thinks and likes 👍
Nice one. How about a playlist for all the ibwc members ou there?
Bark and Jack just reviewed this watch and found some of the same issues.
“But first let’s pay some bills.” Brilliant 😂😂
Id like to see a review on the Tissot prx80
When Jenni said “Audemars Piguet” and the CC reads “Odometer Piggy” I died.
Edit : Spelling. And there goes the heart from Jenni 💔
Petition to rename it to "Odometer Piggy" 🤣
Even funnier is the CC for Teddy Baldassarre video when he says Vacheron Constantin. Each time it is different.
I have heard people pronounce it nearly like this in real life. Keeping a straight face was tough. I did tell them nicely how it was pronounced at least
Although I could never justify spending such an amount on a watch, if I ever did it would be this Royal Oak (over anything else). It just looks very cool to me. In the real world, I'll be buying a Casioak.
It's $18k lol, don't pay the idiot tax
sometimes the 15500 looks grey and sometimes black in this video. Is it always the same watch or is it really like this, that the light matters?
I love this review. It's the most negative review I've probably ever seen on youtube, but couched so delicately. You plainly leave out the clues, which is appreciated. Cheers.
Jenni, I hope you're not suggesting that the 37mm fits you. It doesn't. You need the 34mm 77450 for your charming spaghetti wrists.
I have the 15500, but I have 20cm/8 inch wrists, and it fits beautifully. You are correct when you say it's not a daily watch. I wear it only when I can take perfect care of it. It would break my heart to scratch it. Which is why, for me, it is strictly a special occasion watch. My go to daily watch is a Polar Explorer II, and I never have to worry about bashing it - as it is completely brushed steel, no shiny center links or other distractions to worry about. It's not really a compromise, because I love it almost as much. I have a number of other decent watches, but I would be perfectly happy with just these two.
Oh boy, your wrists look so cute with these 41mm watches on 😁😅
Which year is this model ?
I just visited your sponsor, Chronext - here's a recommendation for them - post better quality photos of their watches - they're very grainy.
Appreciate the info on the water resistance and overall fragility. This is totally opposite of its looks and the style of the watch.
I really love all your videos, but please, is it possible to have sometimes models from a different ethnicity ? I'm black and i still don't know how AP looks on a black wrist...
I didn't even notice the date window until you mentioned it, it basically hides itself within the dial
How did i never notice thatv
I rotate my 15400 as a daily and yes, the bracelet is a scratch magnet. In which the scratches are amplified if the light hits it just right.
I own this watch with the blue dial, and I must say I agree with everything you said here. The water resistance is so disappointing. It’s easily the biggest weakness of the watch. As far as scratches, I’ve already gouged the hell out of the dial on mine, and honestly I prefer it that way. If you’re committed to spending the money on this thing, you should be committed to wearing it. I can’t wait to see mine in 30 years, undoubtedly beaten to a pulp. That’s how it should be.
In 30 years? That’s incredibly optimistic, especially after the lowly comments you made about the watch I expected it to last no more than 3 years 😂
It really is the perfect watch for your typical "team leader" type. Goes well with everything tasteless... should match up perfectly with that company lease Audi.
I love the Genta's design, but I absolutely agree with you
Damn 😭
It’s typical for someone who hate on the Royal Oak until they spend some time with it on the wrist.