Greatest Interview Moment Ever
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- Опубликовано: 21 фев 2011
- A clip from The Death of A Nation - The East Timor Conspiracy. The journalist & documentarian John Pilger in an interview with Alan Clark the Ex British Minister of Defence over the sale of British arms to Indonesia for the express purpose of conquering the neighboring island nation of East Timor.
What a strange bunch of commentators this post has brought.
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@@TheWiseMonkey8888 Exactly. We don't need to be body language experts here.
When he died, there was a tribute from a surprising source, Tony Benn:
'A very kindly man personally. But I think he'll be remembered as one of the few people nowadays who actually said what he thought. And from that point of view, the House of Commons will suffer from his loss.'
Tbh I think Tony Benn primarily meant that people like Clark were easier to deal with in The Commons because at least they tend to show their true colours when they have fewer places to hide. Hopefully, when bathed in the full glare of The Commons, this will also apply to Nigel Farage as he takes his place as a fully fledged MP. _For better or worse_ as they say. At least the fork-tongued opportunist that is George Galloway is on his way out again as I type - a shame in many ways, as he did once have the potential to be a truly great statesman - but it is what it is, Galloway will instead be remembered as the man who told Piers Morgan on his show: _"I trust _*_VLADIMIR PUTIN_*_ more than I trust Kier Starmer"._
Love Alan Clark!
AC was a total a**ehole but he had an almost unique trait for a politician. He was honest.
Not a total hole. Have you read the diaries?
at times economical with the actuality of the truth
A lot of people have picked up on 'curiously not', and fair enough. But surely the standout quote is Pilger's: '..albeit foreigners'.
Indeed.
what is a 'foreigner' to Pilger anyway?
It's clearly sarcastic on Pilger's part
Intended sarcasm from Pilger......strange that you chose this for your disingenuous observation
@@markknopflerisnot He’s not being sarcastic at all. He’s asking a genuine question and trying to get a genuine answer. Anyone with interviewing experience would know that to use sarcasm in such context would be counterproductive, as it would only illicit a sarcastic. Sorry if that ruins your image of him (you might have him on a pedestal) but he does, to an extent, regard foreign lives as less worthy
Pilger: "this british equipment that was causing such mayhem...." Clark: "ah? you're talking about my wedding tackle old boy?"
LOL excellent.
Not many, but Some journalists have integrity...
Classic Alan Clark.
I think Alan was getting annoyed by the questioning and he simply gave an over the top sarcastic answer.
Excellent point.
There is no such thing as an over-sarcastic - or even sarcastic - Alan Clark. The man was a top narcissist, he always spoke in this manner, no sarcastic shades, just pure narcissism.
@@freezing5 No one knows anyone as well as you're pretending to know Clark.
@@Bill-uo6cm This line is going straight into my 'back pocket' for use at a later time
@Bill-uo6cm You mean Clark was annoyed with himself for the first answer and then realised he may as well come clean with the second. ie. _"Well, you've _*_told_*_ me this was happening...I didn't _*_HEAR_*_ about it or _*_KNOW_*_ about it"._ (cue eyes flitting desperately to one side for an escape route).
Wow. An Honest Politician!!!
Curiouser and curiouser
just one of the many reasons i was an arch conservative Thatcherite in the 80s.
Alan Clark legend
Anyone looking for further examples on "The banality of evil"?
Legend!
Not really. Just an honest shit.
Although he was pretty monstrous at least he was honest
Well said, Clark. Pilger with his gotcha question.
The *_first_* question was the _real_ gotcha. Wasn't even meant to be, ironically, but it worked.
_"Well, you've _*_told_*_ me this was happening...I didn't _*_HEAR_*_ about it or _*_KNOW_*_ about it"._
I like this guy.
Honesty! Such a long gone virtue.
the transcription uses 'farmers' at 47 secs when it should be 'foreign ones'. important
Staggering lack of virtue signaling
Or virtue
@@ghostofgralton6859his honesty is virtuous!
I love them both, to be honest...
Good comment
best MP ever.
One of the best post war UK politicians besides Enoch Powell
..in your tragic little world.
a true tory =D
Yep. Elitist, racist, and covered in a thick and unbreakable coating of bastard.
When Clarke initially said he was not aware of the transfer of the equipment and that the issue of how tje eauipment was being used never entered his mind, he was obviously attempting to defend himself. I suspect he cared more about the Indonesians that his sarcastic answer at the end of the interview would suggest.
I agree.
Good point.
Lmao oh those poor indonesians defending themselves against the aggresive people of east timor! Moron
Classic !!!!
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We're there's people there's trouble!
You can tell Clark is bored by the whole thing, as anyone would be after half an hour spent in the presence of the simpering, holier-than-thou -- and complete crackpot -- Pilger
At least he was honest. Today a politician would come out with the approved form of words, something along the lines of:
"Oh, it troubled me greatly to see such suffering. But when we originally sold such arms to Thugania, we had no idea that there would be a coup in less than five years time and that a new regime would use these weapons against their population. We have, naturally, protested to Thugania in the strongest possible terms."
Rishi?
But he wasn't honest here, was he? Not in the first instance. Only once he'd outed himself and had nothing to lose as a result.
Pilger was no match for Clark . It would help,everyone if the entire interview was available ?
Curiously not, no.
Can't bear to eat an animal...
Interviewer was not properly prepared. It would have been more interesting to explore why clarke held the views he did. Clarke was philosophical about the human condition and so ultimately frivolous.
That's an interesting deduction.
Yet another toff ripped away from it's mother at such an early age as to surely warrant some kind of investigation into the practice as child abuse?
Was honest
Why ‘greatest’? Shocking and brutally honest, but ‘greatest’.....?
The greatest
Having read his diaries, I don't find this surprising at all. Clarke was in fact a fascist or at least an apologist thereof. In his second volume of diaries, he talks of putting the portrait of 'Wolf' back in its rightful place in his castle. 'Wolf' was Hitler's code name whilst residing in the 'Wolf's Lair' in Eastern Prussia during the war. And Hitler of course was also a vegetarian and cared more about the horses that died during the war than he did about his men. Didn't shed a single tear when this selfish bastard snuffed it.
+Brian 1815 That was all tongue-in-cheek.
In the era of political correctness, we have forgotten the great British sense of humour.
Hitler wasn't a Fascist,he was a Nazi. Like Clark...
If you've read the diaries but can still pour out that crap, you obviously didn't understand what you were reading.
People say this is amazing but did his career no end of harm
Despite being intelligent enough to understand what a 'Moral Compass' was, Alan Clark himself simply didn't possess one. Politically, personally and sexually he made no apology for the creature he was... (He saw no reason to.) His apologists cite his undeniable wit, charm and self confidence to pardon his actions and personality in every sphere. (They have a possible point...) Yet, he was a creature of absolute privilege who had no empathy whatever with anyone else who was not. Had he been born in a different age, he might well have been a Reinhard Heydrich type... Thank God he was not... xx SF
You poor dimwit. You know nothing about Clarkey. He just loved winding up self-righteous, self-important leftists like John Pilger. You could see him enjoying himself in this interview
You knew Heydrich, I presume?
none.
Why should it be a concern? The primary concern of a Government is to support their country's own industry, and create jobs, not engage in sentimental moralising.
I agree with Clarke.
+relarerfhjk 200,000 people died.
+Oliver Thompson They didn't die because of Britain. There was a civil war going on regardless of our involvement. The job of Government is to support their own industries not to tell the world how to behave
Fuck off with your Bullshit Nugget.
But it can be a concern without conflicting with your concern for your government
He asked if it was a personal concern, not a political one. He could have felt some remorse over the fact that a justified policy (in his eyes) led to the deaths of so many. He didn't care at all.
"International Relations Theory is the academic field, dating from 300 BC in Ancient Greece. concerning the duties, moral responsibilities and ethical behaviour of states in international relations. Main works include the Histories, by Herodotus (300 BC, 10 Books, 10 Chapters), Towards Perpetual Peace, by Immanuel Kant (1780, 5 Books, 4 Chapters) , The Eighteen Chapters by Woodrow Wilson, 1918, International Ethics, by John Nardin and Janice Mapel (1950, 4 Books, 2 Books.). Schools of thought in the twentieth-century include Liberalism, Realism, New-Realism."- John Peter Kubuzcek, History of International Relations Theory. 1990.
Mr Pilger couldn't resist the snide qualifier "albeit foreigners", so Clark replied in kind. He had no time for left-wing journalists, but would have replied courteously to a courteous question.
I don't think he would. Pilger is baiting Clark, but if Clark had had it put to him "You sign off on equipment that blows up humans yet you ban hunting on your land, isn't there a contradiction?" he would have given the same response.
Albeit foreigners indeed 🙃
BAsed
I have read and enjoyed his diaries and this is the question i would have asked him ,
he was very upset when nature was cruel , but didn't seem to care about human cruelty .
it's a puzzle ? …and he had a signed photograph of Adolph Hitler ?
any ideas ?
Auto of Hitler? That's cool. Worth a ton I bet.
So if you're a psychopath but you're honest about it that means it's OK. Got it.
Clarke wasn’t a psychopath, his diaries clearly show that.
As a politician you have to be realist. No emotions.
@@tombarac8253
What utter tripe.
@@James-fv1yb
Hook, line and sinker, eh (although sociopath may be more appropriate than psychopath). So I imagine you must be looking forward to Donald Trump's hagiographical memoirs, vindicating him of all wrongdoing and putting him up there in the pantheon of the Gods where he belongs.
@@pointless_walks-te4zm No.
I am a gardener and tend to my gardens. I regularly have to clear the weeds less they destroy my beautiful flowers. This is not cruel and heartless, but required by any sustainable or moral form of existence. Our World is a rare commodity, as is the Universe, and all require constant and careful tending. There is a finite limit to resources, and those without the mental or emotional intelligence and fortitude to look to the beyond and care for it unfortunately must be the ones to succumb to higher powers, whether rock or stone. It is necessary to make the harsh decisions required for sustainability, however unfortunate. Those decisions will undoubtedly be unpopular just as the rain not falling causing a crop to spoil. Never forget that for better or worse, to be inclusive is to be inclusive of nature itself.
Sounds sus
Just shows you how different Fathers and Sons can be? The Father a world renown and exceptionally respected Scholar and Writer and the son - less than cat faeces, literally excrement.
At least he might have given more insight into the minds of a lot of vegetarians & vegans..
Exactly, we're profoundly superior entities....... Just like Mr Clarke.
this was the first documentary I ever saw of John Pilger, have become a huge admirer of his ever since. when I saw part of his interview of Alan Clark I was absolutely flabbergasted and thought "how fuck up this that?!" if your for animal rights then that should only make your more compassionate towards human beings of all social classes, race, sexual orientation. this Tory has got it completely fucking backwards haha!
+Yuri muckraker *you're
it is quite possible to care more for animals than for your fellow human beings - trust me on that.
revol148 but I always thought you belive in animal rights as an extension for how you treat your fellow human beings. always thought of animal rights as an extension of human rights.
I think the word you mean is compassion - to be honest I seriously question whether all humans even deserve compassion.A look at the horrors of the world today may make people question whether we even have any right to continue with our species.
revol148 hehe! yeah I think you pinpointed it. and I believe strongly in compassion, I think you can't pick and choose which human rights you believe in, just like animal rights and yeah your soo right and I share your views. When I see the injustice that John Pilger documents, or Vice or Abby Martin, or I watch Democracy Now or I see the madness unfolding that a Trump can rise and decent men like Corbyn and Bernie Sanders get crushed I think...can climate change happen quicker and devour the species?
Great to see John Pilger put into his painfully annoying leftist place.
Clark: _"Well, you've _*_told_*_ me this was happening...I didn't _*_hear_*_ about it or _*_KNOW_*_ about it"._ I fail to see how that admission of negligence puts Pilger _"in his place"_ (annoying, leftist or otherwise). Of course Clark then doubles down like a guilty schoolboy once he's outed himself.