We NEED To Talk About Heartbreak High...
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Hey Rummates, today we're here to talk about the new Australian drama, Heartbreak High. This show is THEE Gen Z show so, of course, there's a lot to get in to so let's talk about it!
Timestamps:
0:00 intro
2:18 what is heartbreak high
4:50 character breakdown
19:56 season 2 hopes & final thoughts
#imuRgency #heartbreakhigh #review #netflix 
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🚨🚨🚨for non Australians: here's the explanation for Malakai
There are some complexities that only Australians will pick up on, the fact that Malakai was an Indigenous Aboriginal Australian, there's a lot more depth to the experience. Aboriginal people are treated terribly by police in Australia (hence the brutality scene), but it was so nice seeing him connect with other indigenous people in his life. The whole going off into the woods but is like going "out bush". Indigenous people are very connected to the Australian land in many aspects of spirituality and it was an experience for him to reconnect with the land, that's why he comes back healed and grounded. We're probably never going to see what happened there/why because it's a very personal experience and Aussies just know that and respect the fact that he was just reconnecting with the land, it would be interesting to have an insight tho if they did film it.
Idk if that was a good explanation but hopefully it'll help people who don't know much abt Australian culture.
It's definitely a good explanation!
Yes! I was thinking of commenting something like this myself but you summed it up well :)
Omg thank you. This was so helpful. Like, legit
Thank u
Like I figured he was an aboriginal but I didn’t understand really understand why they were showing little cut scenes of the woods. Makes sense know. Thanks!!
Sasha having "empath" in her bio and turning out to be the one with the least empathy is very fitting
💯
it’s SUCH a good representation of the fake woke gen z kids of today LMAO, she’s just like most of the people i know from school
FR
So-called 'empaths' are the *worst* narcissists.
@@williamoarlock8634 ive never seen someone try to hate on empaths while simultaneously being ableist to people with npd still
“If Sex Education met Euphoria and had a baby, and that baby grew up and had a baby with Grand Army and they all moved to Australia” is a perfect way to describe this show.
It's amazing
more like generation met euphoria and had a baby and that baby grew up and had a baby with grand army and was adopted by sex education and they all moved to australia
That's exactly how I described the show
@@madalyn7353 Generation is for sure part of the family that makes up Heartbreak High.
@@madalyn7353 YOURE SO RIGHT
I think Sasha really accurately represents a real type of person. A person that desperately wants to look like they're accepting, open, and socially progressive. It becomes apart of how they identify themselves but it can also be quite shallow/superficial. She wants to be the type of person that would be in a relationship with someone on the spectrum, but doesn't actually want the reality of dating someone on the spectrum.
Omg right!! Said it so well.
So like a pick me girl kinda
"Fake woke" is absolutely the words you're looking for.
she reminded me so much of these girls in my school who would like publically post about anti-racism, but then would laugh and do nothing when people were actually being racist to me irl
so true ong
The ace reveal of Cash's character broke me. You neverrrr see good asexual representation in these shows, especially when everyone else is so hypersexualized. His character made me so happy.
For me it's Quinni's autistic reveal
He's my favorite character and coincidentally that's also my nickname.
as an asexual his seen with darren when he’s finally explaining literally made me cry
Also in his archetype of character. Usually boys, especially boys who aren’t portrayed as nerdy
I still think Darren deserved to experience love through sex, they should have made Spider the Ace, rmeeber he couldnt get it up for Amerie!
i was genuinely so disgusted by that threesome bro. all 3 of them were really high and drunk and when dusty told harper that he regretted the threesome that he wasn't able to consent to she got up in front of the whole school and dunked on him for being bad at sex or wtv. malakai especially was in a really vulnerable state after the cop slamming him on the floor and harper fs took advantage of that. it should have never happened
Bro I literally thought the same thing because like you had a threesome with a dude who was not comfortable with it (also i just feel like he needed space to figure shit out) and a man who was literally traumatized by police brutality and somehow you're the victim. Make it make sense
thank you!! no one should have to feel ashamed abt *not* liking a threesome bruh. i never liked harper
yeah they honestly made Harper so unlikeable. She also treated Amerie horribly, I found it so weird how everything was forgotten at the end??? Harper treated Dusty like shit when he genuinely just regretted the threesome and felt bad about it, dunked him in front of the whole school, talked about how Malakai gave her an orgasm in front of the hole school (and Amerie), saying it was consensual (yeah idk about that either lol), and basically didn't take any responsibility for her actions what so ever and only said "I didn't do those things to punish you" as if she didn't purposely turned the whole school against Amerie over a map that both she and her did together.... what happened to Harper was horrible, but nooooo way can you discard the things she did to others. I was genuinely ANGRY when I saw the show and how it seemed to just brush over these things??? and all of this because she didn't let you in ONE night when she was having a boy over, and had no way knowing what had happened to you and actually earlier on tried to ring you and find you
Harper was just a massive asshole that only cared about what was going on in her life (completely understandable I get it). She had little to no remorse about everything that had happened. I was also like “absolutely not how do you just forgive someone like that once they explain what had been happening to them? They literally ISOLATED YOU??” I genuinely have been through something similar and I have yet to forgive that person for isolating me especially bc they KNEW about my mental health. I truly do not give a shit about your situation it’s purely shitty to isolate someone in such a shit way. I hate Harper. I feel for her but I can not stand her
@@Thatgenderconfused3mo
Honestly, I hate both Harper and Amery.
Harper isolated Amery because Amery left her alone twice. She left her at the concert for a dude she didn't even like, so alone Harper almost got assaulted by a gang.
Secondly, Amery said Harper should sleep at her place, but when she came, she hid. So alone, Harper got attacked by her father.
Unrealistic, and Harper should have said to Amery about her father. But Amery should also call her and try to find her. She kicked out the dude anyway. She was self- presented as a great bf "always there for her," but she wasn't.
not to mention that malakai was high for the first time in his life throughout that night and then he goes thru a traumatic experience that made him have a breakdown and like dusty and harper instead of talking to him or taking him home to be safe or even trying to sober him up they take advantage of him in his lowest moment like HUH 🤨 im dusty and harper's #1 hater
No because Harper was actually the villain
@@zubayrahvoster1192 and then she tried to say that Dusty initiated it and I was like...Girl???? dusty literally passed the spliff and she said mmmm OK but let me get some double dick. She was so awful
YUP honestly for me this kinda falls into the realm of sexual assault cuz no matter the intentions there was a blatant power dynamic between Harper (and Dusty) being pretty much fully aware of the situation and Malakai being emotionally and physically (being high) in a bad place and not present. you can’t consent drunk so in my mind this is pretty much the same thing. I really hope they’re able to explore how people don’t take this stuff seriously when it happens to a guy and that he gets some form of justice for everything that happened to him that day and that it’s not swept under the rug. some people might think I’m being dramatic but it really doesn’t sit right with me. if they give Harper an easy redemption cuz of her trauma I’m gonna be pissed. hope they explore Malakai’s healing and some form of justice while also getting into trauma cycles and how harpers past experiences play a part in her warped judgement
I def agree with you, BUT I am confused as to why people in these comments seem to be focusing more on Harper's wrongdoing when Dusty is the one that initiated it 🤔 don't get me wrong, what she did was absolutely wrong, but I think Dusty deserves more criticism overall personally.
Also, Harper's trauma absolutely isn't an excuse, but it is an important factor in the warped way she viewed the situation (trying to "help" Malakai by hooking up with him). She's clearly been using sex as an unhealthy coping mechanism for her trauma (not at all uncommon for SA survivors, sadly) and that's why she thought that it could help Malakai. She was wrong, and it's not okay that she did that, but I think her twisted logic is at least more deserving of empathy than Dusty, who seemed to only have his own interests in mind every step of the way.
i felt conflicted for a moment when i first watched it because technically harper and dusty were also intoxicated but it was clear that they still had the power in this situation and it just really felt like it either was assault or bordered the line. it made me feel sick honestly. i really liked malaki’s character, he deserved better especially that night
The Malakai body slam scene seems to be at least inspired by a real event last year where a cop body slammed an Indigenous teen for ‘talking back’ and when the video circulated the media got mad at the teen’s ‘attitude’ whereas the cop got literally no punishment because his boss said “he was having a bad day”
So yeah when you said it was ‘real’ it basically was actually real
Absolutely disgusting. Is there anywhere I can read about this?
australia is actaully so racist and it’s so ignored
Is there a video or article about this I can see?
wow
I did not like Sasha at all and she was a bad partner and I understand dating someone on the spectrum must come with difficulties but I think most of their problems came from Sasha just being a trash person. Like all Quinny wanted to do was go to her book signing 🙄 she told sasha she didn't have to come and even told her to go to the party if she wanted to and Sasha CHOSE to go anyway and acted like it was the biggest inconvenience of her whole life🤭
Sasha kinda seemed like she liked being “superior” to her partner and having more to blame on them and lowkey a different power dynamic. Quinni deserves a partner who loves everything about her and treats her as an equal. they better have a “new bombshell enter the villa” and they better give our sweet Quinni the love she deserves
Quinni deserves SO much better than Sasha omg. I adore Quinni and can relate to her on so many aspects (I'm not autistic but I'm ADHD w/ sensory processing disorder) and the whole book signing episode was so painful for me to watch. And the way Sasha constantly infantalized Quinni and talked about her to her friend, ugh. I've never seen a more accurate portrayal of this kind of ableism and how much it hurts to deal with, but it kinda made me hate Sasha's character lol
As an autistic person Quinni should have walked away after saying "Okay Sia" and been done with Sasha.
Really didn't like her either😭
Hated how she treated Quinni. She treated her like a baby. And always talking to her condescendingly. She really made me angry.
Yo on the spectrum or not your partner having an attitude about “having” to do things you like to do with you is trash. I have a feeling Sasha would have been like that with anyone whether they were on the spectrum or not because she’s selfish and lame
Can we talk about the teacher though? that poor woman was going THROUGH IT like-- the whole season i was hoping to have her get a better relationship with the class
I think we got there in the end, but I was ready to shake that Principal more than anyone. She was given racist vibes
justice 4 jojo!!!
@@milkflavored The principal is actually played by Rachel House who is Maori, so the scene where she approaches Malakai after his assault by the cop is a nod to those similar experiences, even as she struggles to actually get through to him in that moment. Of course, does not mean her character can't be racist, or that she was a good principal, but it's an extra layer to the story to consider
@@milkflavored I actually liked the principal I think she was very old fashioned and strict but I got the feeling she actually cared about her students. She could have done more for Jojo but ultimately I think she was trying her best to keep control of the situation.
@@cassielcruzchavolla809 yeah I liked her as well. She just didn't give off the vibe of that one principal who hates kids she just seemed stressed out. Plus she couldn't get involved with the investigation because of her bias (she trusts JoJo and didn't believe the allegations) anyway. Not saying she did the right thing all the time but yeah
I don’t think the writers ever wanted us to like Sasha. I think they intended for her to always be casually problematic self-centered and fake. But like someone in the real world who has all those characteristics it’s not popping up every day all the time but when it does you really get that glimpse of their true self
YESS the way she switched up on her friends ( amerie and harper ) SOO FAST whenever they messed up. she seemed to have a major moral superiority complex tbh
I feel like Sasha‘s character was supposed to be a juxtaposition between how she was “woke” and fighting different social issues meanwhile she was projecting the behaviours that she was against in her protests and “beliefs” so she was made to highlight that hypocrisy and performative activism in a way
Exactly. It was pretty obvious when the protest was happening and she said something like, “oh i organised this whole thing.” Like the writers definitely wrote her to be unlikeable
@@dazey8706 I don’t get why you depicting like morality is bad when isn’t but sense they are projected as Gen z in that show I guess she fake
@@arekusandora7091 theres a difference between “morals” and a “moral superiority complex”
When they're doing their protest & Quinni is still non-verbal and she writes out, "am I too much?" to Darren and they automatically say, "yes, but you're MY too much." It gutted me so deeply. Because while not on the spectrum, my mental illnesses make me feel hard to love and "too much" as well and Darren's continuous love and support of Quinni was honestly my favorite love story of the show.
And to add quickly: my second-favorite love story was between Amerie and Harper, because it's truly not talked about enough how friends break your heart (sometimes worse) and leave you absolutely gutted.
I'm autistic. The whole scene in the restaurant was amazing and I feel like I met people like Sasha and Darren. People can understand and listen and some will come to their own conclusions and assume thing about you. Truly some of the best rep in a show
For real!!! I love Darren and Quinni’s relationship, they’re honestly my favorite parts of the show. I love themm
@@alexismae5716 ive never been assessed for being on the spectrum but im pretty noise sensitive and that restaurant scene so perfectly portrayed that overwhelming feeling
Just a minor correction. Autism isn’t a mental illness.
The fact that a road man (ca$h) - a very stereotypical basic character usually- is one of the most layered well written characters I have seen. Ever. Is incredible and really shows what good writing and acting can do.
Felt the same
Yes!!! So multi-layered and well-rounded
Ca$h is my bbg fr
the eshay bah scene is actually so fucking common in australia (where im from) you'll see 10 year olds with nike tech and bum bags and even the adults will yell "eshayyyyyy" at them lmao
I think Amerie is my best character cause it proves you can actually make a teenage girls likeable. It shows that most writers are actually lazy and don’t put in as much effort in writing teenage girls, they can still be flawed and likable.
omg yessss
i hated amerie i had to say it
@@4_leafed_lynxx221 the thing is, Amerie was shitted on continuously, yet was always there for anyone. She made her amends and was the one responsible for getting Ms Oba back in to teach. Theres truly no reason to dislike her
@@GrinningLikeaDelicateJamesDeansee, personally I also didn’t like Amerie. Yea, she had a character arc which is great, but I just dislike her personality
i loved seeing the way darren treated quinni vs how sasha treated quinni. really shows how quinni didnt need to be infantalized
Yess! always thought sasha treated quinni like a research project too, as opposed to a human being
@@daniellenederpel916 Sasha was simply inexperienced & acting the wrong way out of the right motivations (love). Not an excuse but definitely a reasonable explanation.
Heyy, maybe some context: quinni is actually the first character to be able to represent a HUGE amount of people like us, the way she can be nonverbal but also shows to be equal to everyone else, how overstimulation works for her, how it works with her and how she survives it, it means so so much. Considering the pain of atypical, this show was amazing. This was the first time we, people who are social and autistic, were represented.
also: chloe hayden, quinni's actor, is an activist for autistic/neurodivergent/disability rights, heavily against sia, and it makes everything better for me
i literally squealed at the tiny detail of her cutting off her shirt's tag lmao (assuming it was because of how overstimulating those mfers are)
also the actor for quinni also is autistic irl. I love that she get to be the representation she herself wished to see
What's Sia?
I’m autistic but chandelier slaps ngl
@@maxschur9301 so we're talking about the singer? Did Sia do something?
This show was actually really good and pretty realistic representation, the only unrealistic thing is Spider saying ACAB when he gives future cop vibes 💀💀
+ him showing up for tge Mardi Gras ballroom when he looks like he’d be violently homophobic💀
@@ife3997 VIOLENTLY plssss
LMFAOOOOO
@@ife3997 RIGHTTT, LIKE WHAT R U SCREAMING "YAS QUEEN" FOR????
I think he is an unique character bc almost every bully in highschool series are homophobic, racist and misogynistic bastards but he isnt. He is just rude to everyone in a "nice" way lol.
to explain Malakai’s storyline when he went to the bush as an Aussie (tho i am white), it’s part of aboriginal culture in Australia to return to bush. Malakai is himself an aboriginal person and thats why the police brutality scene is so heartbreaking as its such a common thing for POC and especially aboriginal people to be targetted by police officers. The returning to country is common tradition to reconnect with the country and nature. I’m so glad that the show represented our country’s original owners experience as it truly isnt shown enough in media, especially worldwide!
Thank you for this explanation! It's what I assumed (since I know their culture is discriminated against in Australia and the guy on the roof that saved Malakai kept calling him 'brother') -- I'm glad it was included. It's interesting that in some ways, I felt he faced more discrimination than Darren..
@@milkflavored i think that Malakai faced more discrimination than Darren because indiginous people here face a system that is built around racism specifically against owners of the land that has prevented them for years to get any assistance in any way, leaving a stigma since they have to resort to certain things to survive. Its a really awful fact abt the prejudice in our systems that doesn’t give POC the same chance that they deserve
I didn't know how much non-Aussies would get Malakai's storyline and the way Missy and her brother fit into it- this is a good description. White person as well but quick summary of relevant history: Aboriginal people are only 3% of the Australian population today and were subject to genocide through the government policy of taking children from parents ( no not-gross way to put this, but darker kids were trained as indentured servants, lighter kids taught to 'pass for white', all had their cultural ties destroyed and were made to act a certain way and subject to horrific abuse similar to what happened in North America with First Nations people) and putting them in orphanages in an attempt to 'breed them out' (this was the aim as written in government documents and the law), so literally a genocide, in addition to the Frontier War murders which are only just being discussed more.
The victims of this policy are known as the Stolen Generations, and the policy only stopped in 1970. For context I'm 24, my parents were 10 when this stopped officially, and many would argue it continues due to higher rates of kids being taken into foster care, intergenerational trauma, etc. Aboriginal people are the most incarcerated demographic on earth and are most of the kids in gaol underage in this country. There are consistent patterns of death in custody and police brutality, plus trauma around government authorities and police as they were/are those taking kids. Active discrimination and mistreatment of Aboriginal people is still everywhere. Re. Malakai being referred to as 'brother'- Many Aboriginal people will refer to each other by family names- elders are often referred to as Aunty or Uncle, as with Uncle Jack Charles, an actor and notable public figure who just passed.
@@madis4913 thank you so much for explaining this all. Our country’s history of aboriginal genocide and incarceration needs to be discussed more as barely anyone outside of Australia knows our history. I’m so happy that finally a well made and gen z focused T.V. show is portraying the culture behind our country, as you hardly ever see it on the big screen
@@kjm437 Totally agree. For non- Aussies- Rabbit Proof Fence and the Sapphires are great movies to start with on this topic if you want to learn more.
it really did upset me when amerie was the one to blame & everyone hated her for the sex map when it was also known that harper did it as well yet of course, a white girl didn't get the hate. smh
Frrr like Harper started dating dusty even tho she knew her best friend liked him for years, then she proceeded to have threesome with malakai(her bestie's new bf) and later on in one scene she got the mic and told everyone who she orgasmed with malakai, I hate her so much, I understand her trauma but that doesn't justify her actions
people didn’t know Harper was involved though
@Ks no way maybe i should watch this show 😂
@@mariannestrgzr9374 I remember her telling Sasha in the beginning that Harper was involved too but of course she refused to listen to her. What gets me if that they just turned on their "friend" Amerie like that was so sad
@@hienthele318 idk Sasha and Missy seemed like fake friends like that's how highschool is full of toxic fake friends but it's sad amerie got blamed for everything but atleast she made two friends Darren and quinny
For the Malakai part, he didn't just go out and be "outdoorsy" and is all healed. Malakai is Indigenous, we have a very special and spiritual relationship with the land and the bush, the point of Malakai going out there was to feel connected to our land and reset. It was super special to see all this represented in a Netflix show as an Indigenous person myself. I would love for you to research our culture, which is beautiful, and also research our history just so you are a little bit more informed when speaking about these things.
you're indigenous?
@@AmetafJohora yes
@@AmetafJohora did you not read that?
@@yasmineguerin2852 i did, i was just curious
@@madmannequinn THAT I WHAT I WAS THINKING. They just threw it in there, it was kinda disrespectful
One thing that I really hopes happens in season 2 (if there is one) is to see Harper, Dusty, Ant and Spider actually face consequences for their actions. While Harpers trauma does explain a lot of the things she did, it doesn’t excuse it, so I hope that he faces consequences and realizes that what she did was fucked up instead of just placing all the blame on Amerie. And then with Dusty and Spider, they just have to go. Like, those three boys get zero punishment for trying to frame an innocent woman as a sex offender while Amerie, who just so happens to be a brown girl, gets socially outcasted for a sex map that she didn’t even make on her own. I really hope the four of them face consequences and learn to grow and show character development from their actions because what they did cannot just be waved off.
a bunch of white boys trying to frame an innocent *black* woman as a sex offender and involving the *brown* girl in the made up story. even if it wasn’t the main point in their mind they knew what they were doing… if jojo and amerie were both white there would’ve been a deeper investigation no one can convince me otherwise
yeah the way they tried to boot off two WOC and then just be like “oopsy” didn’t sit right….they gotta pay
yeah the way they tried to boot off two WOC and then just be like “oopsy” didn’t sit right….they gotta pay
LITERALLY, i hated almost everyone in that show
All of this, except can someone please explain why Dusty himself isn't viewed as a POC??? Like... he IS brown, is he not??? I figured Malakai is part of the culture that is heavily discriminated against in Australia, but Dusty ....
I‘m autistic and I feel so represented by Quinny!!😭😭😭😭 She‘s queer, autistic, being played by an autistic actress….like!! I didn’t think it would happen! It‘s so nice seeing a character who thinks and perceives the world the same way I do.
RIGHR LIKE i remember seeing her on camera for the first time where they didn’t say she was autistic explicitly and i was like 🤨i know what you are. LMFAOOO but my autism radar went off but jokes aside her character was so good bruh like i literally felt like i saw myself on screen
Oh wait she’s actually autistic in real life? I was wondering that, that’s fantastic
also just the represetation of an autistic person that isnt a straight male, its so amazing
she’s a lesbian. stop being so afraid to say the word
@@lilymcmanaway is the actress also lesbian as well or just the character?
honestly, i tried to understand harper throughout all 8 episodes cause i felt like something terrible happened and everything but it's like she just wont stop. Even after they explained what happened to her I still don't understand why she treated Amerie like that. Amerie ain't really do anything wrong. Harper proceeds to sleep with her long-time crush and on top of that her boyfriend. On top of that, harper never took any type of responsibility for the map. Amerie really went through it. They did not let her catch a break at all.
I agree with you, but I think it was speaking to the fact that you don’t have to do anything “wrong” for people to treat you like trash. Like some people that’s just how they operate. They go through some thing and instead of making it understandable to those around them, they take it out on them instead. I’m not defending Harper. I just think it’s realistic in that regard. People do you stuff like that and it’s not really understandable, but it definitely happens all the time. My only thing is if I was Amerie, I’d be hesitant about being so willing to take Harper back as a friend. Harper’s pain is understandable, but many of her actions are inexcusable in my opinion.
Harper has PTSD. I think that's clear. She's not acting rationally. She couldn't sort out the situation and she lashed out to feel control - she blamed Amerie for not being there for her because after all she went through, she had to go home to hell, meanwhile her friend was pretty much just fine. I think she's lashing out at her because she blames her, but also because she's envious of how she's living a normal life like everyone else, whereas Harper is traumatized and I'm certain she feels different, reality feels different... everything feels darker and more twisted and confusing and scary. And her friend who could have just let her in is... just fine. That's how I saw it. What she did wasn't okay... but she shouldn't be demonized for it. She needs therapy, not punishment.
I'm not trying to defend Harper but I think that everyone's kinda forgetting that Amerie told her she could stay at her place when they were at the festival and then literally didn't open the window for Harper. I think that really explains why she was so mad at Amerie when they got back to school, though obviously it doesn't excuse the rest of her behaviors
@@martarlopes it’s pretty shit to first leave someone at a festival by themselves and then not let them in after promising they can stay the night, that’s not taking into account all of the terrifying traumatic shit she went through. It’s crap how she treated Am but we’ve all gotten angry at the people we love for A LOT less than this.
@@dangernoodle9961 its a reason but it’s not an excuse to be so violent to your friend and then take advantage of malakai when he was also unable to think rationally (also traumatised and high). I think she should have been held accountable way more than she was in the show. What she did to amarie is incomparable to amarie slipping up
As an Australian teenager I thought the fashion/outfits in this show were SO spot on, especially if you live in a city. The only slight innacuracy was not having a school uniform which most schools have here (especially in NSW)! (I go to a school without uniforms though and most kids dress very similarly to these characters, even if the characters are a bit trendier/have more expensive wardrobes lol). IMO the most accurate was Cash though, I literally thought they found a random eshay on the street and asked him to be in the show 😭 turns out he is actually an actor but omg the eshay slang and clothing and even the haircut really hit the nail on the head
As someone who graduated from Mosman High back in 2001 (one of the only non-uniform schools in Sydney), I felt totally transported back to my high school experience
i feel like the reason they dont have uniforms is either for brand deals or to make the characters look as gen z as possible
What is an eshay? From India so dont know🤷♂️
@@xoxotous4814 a group/subculture of people who are usually seen as delinquents and wear certain clothes and have their own slang, Cash from the show and his group of friends are a good example
LOL yes I was wondering why no uniform? I live in a regional area and we still had uniforms so that's not the reason. Idk rly
Anyone else who was annoyed the story didn't properly call out Harper for what she did to Malakai? If I remember the scene with him and Amery at the park correctly, he honestly seemed reallly shaken up that he ended up sleeping with someone when he couldn't think straight. I know that Harper had no ill intentions and wanted him to feel secure and loved after what happened but I consider sleeping with a person who is in in an emotionally vulnerable state, high and drunk (and also still sort of involved with someone else?) very, very questionable behavior and ought to be more than just called out by a side character. Imo, it could've been properly addressed and she should've apologized.
The writers made Sasha comment how shitty that was but then Harper had her big moment and claimed it was consensual? I can't tell if they wanted to show how men getting taken advantage of gets swept under the rug by people or if they actually sided with Harper on that one.
YES. no one can convince me that Harper (and Dusty) didn’t sexually assault Malakai. they were both mentally present while Malakai was emotionally and physically (being high) in a bad and less aware place. Malakai’s decision making ability was impaired and I know you cannot legally consent drunk so I’d think it’d be the same high, although I’m in America so idk Australian laws. I really hope they explore Malakai not being seen as any sort of victim cuz he’s male and how he deserves a form of justice he was not given. I also hope they put Harper in therapy and include an exploration of trauma cycles and how her experiences altered her ability to appropriately support others. not as an excuse, but as a way for her to reconcile with the situation
@@marsjournal4303 Thanks for responding, I'm glad I'm not the only one, and I agree with the things you mention. I wonder if any of it is gonna be explored any further or if the writers are gonna wave it off and move on (should they get another season).
@@marsjournal4303 it was 100% assault.
also the fact that malakai literally had to leave school bc he was so f’d up from that one night and no one seemed to notice nor care….but yeah i couldn’t watch that scene bc it was obvious they took advantage and also harper not being remorseful to all the ppl she hurt made it worse
right!!! who tf finds their classmate sobbing on the streets and has hooking up with them as a first thought?? like that's crazy fucked up
The whole scene towards the end with Darren and their dad had me dead💀, “racist, homophobic and sexist” what do you even say to that😭
I was so confused like was he trying to say this was his karma orrrrr
RIGHT LMAO
The guy who plays Darren's father is from the original Heartbreak High that released in 90s. When he was saying these things he was referring his old character in the series.
@@realnamy8893 who does he play??
@@aliedumoulin5085 peter rivers i think
i really don't understand why this show isn't as popular as euphoria, skins, etc. because it's a realistic and genuine teen drama (at least for Australian teens like me) and it has really nice representation, outfits and cinematography.
edit: not to shame or insult the other shows. also, I feel icky with Harper cause she technically SA'd Malakai with dusty after he literally got @ssaulted...and Sasha treated Quinnie like shit. she only liked Quinnie when she didn't act "autistic"
It hasn't been out that long, give it time. Skins took a while to catch on in the U.S.
i think there’s a bit of like a culture gap? like i feel like the show is pretty true blue aussie and there’s a few storyline’s that just won’t make sense to american audiences, not that the show doesn’t deserve it tho
The plot was a little bit nonsensical at points....
@@nattydeb1615 International doesn't mean only America (or I think you mean only USA because of the culture aspect)... There's for example also Europe and the cultures of those countries are also very different to the US but still many people enjoy and love many shows from the USA. It's the same for australian shows, you can still enjoy it.
@@leoniew8978 whilst i agree you can still enjoy it i think that american audiences (which i was referring to because of the first reply) are simply just not aware of the issues Aboriginal Australians face which i believe may cause the confusion seen in this video. In comparison, i think the issues in America are spread worldwide
Amerie hooked me in the first or second episode when she started dancing and lip syncing full of joy in her kitchen, then went to her room and started sobbing. Emotions are so volatile especially as a teenager, and I think all the characters gave us that on some level.
“Not the BAyAngs, the BAyAngs”
WoaOaOh
I’m somewhere in the ace and bi realm and I bawled when cash was talking about his sexuality during the protest episode and the moment in the hallway cuz it was just so real. the complexities of liking the same sex/gender but not being interested in sexual activity are such a mind fuck and I’ve spent so much time gaslighting myself about it and believing no one could ever love me if we weren’t sexually active so I was definitely impressed by how that was executed. I don’t want to speak on other represented experiences that don’t parallel to my life but it generally seems like they really got it and weren’t just tryna check all the woke/hot topic check boxes which a lot of shows try to do in a very shallow way
ahhh this is so relatableee
Yeah same totally agree
yeah agreed! i’m a biromantic ace and i’ve always been afraid no one would be with me bc of my asexuality, so it’s amazing to see an ace character get into a relationship with a non-asexual person.
This makes so much sense ! I feel like this is me I’ve had sexual experiences with both but I’m not sexually attracted to woman but i romantically am ugh
yep same bitch i was SOBBING
also, about sasha; her character was not a good person. she made it seem like quinni was a problem in her life and was acting so inconsiderate and insensitive. "don't pull the autism card." who says that??? and i'm glad they didn't get back together in the end because from the very first interaction, i could tell how sasha's character was going to play out. very disappointing.
she made it seem like it was draining and tiring to be around quinni... ugh.
I got a bad impression from Sasha immediately. First thing we learn abt her is she cheated on her ex and even then she wasn’t taking any responsibility for her actions. Quinni deserves so much better
Tbh I liked the exploration of their dynamic together. They’re still both only 16 and no one’s going to perfectly react to dating someone on the spectrum if they haven’t before. Sasha made mistakes but once she realized she made mistakes she immediately tried to correct her understanding.
@@Lalalasparklesunshine the issue is, she was told the things not to do and not only did she do them anyways, but she also didnt fully take the time to learn and understand Quinni's needs. Like, she said she would, and then immediately she did things that a quick search, or just asking Quinni, would have told her not to do. And just because she is 16 does not mean she is incapable of learning. Look at Darren and Quinni's relationship. My point is, Sasha said she'd put in the effort, but when Quinni's struggles came about, she did not.
Unfortunately autistic people are sometimes treated like that by family, friends, and partners.. being treated like we are an inconvenience because our brains operate differently. I have been belittled by my family when experiencing sensory overload and emotional dysregulation and I know others who have experienced similar things. People will treat us like we are using being autistic as an excuse when it is actually a reason for why things can be different or difficult for us and we just need understanding and support from around us.
I really like how Sasha was written though tbh. Especially as the "woke" social justice warrior that she's presented to be. Despite all her rants about feminisim and being in an environmentalist club she still can't wrap her head around autistic people just being....people. It's a good commentary on how a lot of people in this generation fail to have truly intersectional viewpoints.
Sasha is definitely meant to be kind of a bad person, and is actually very well written as such. At first glance she feels like she should be one of the more likeable characters but through the show it slowly becomes obvious that her actions are all pretty superficial (dumping Amerie so quick, constantly trying to help Quinni as if she's completely helpless, all the charity and raising awareness stuff which doesn't actually ever seem to amount to anything). I don't think her and Quinni's relationship was ever meant to appear as healthy, like pretty much every other relationship on the show.
Darren was hands-down the best character on the show. They made me laugh so hard and said the most awkward things “You do not want me,” and “I love this school.”
"The bayang the bayang"
the scene when they were fighting the principal over the shlong balloon had me crying 😭
The part that ca$h says he comes to school just to see his beautiful face made me cry...am not even in highschool but i wish my highschool days were this better and filled with drama😩
Honestly I don’t like how he mistreated ca$h tho it was swept under the rug kinda at the end.
He was funny but he was very entitled and treated cash awfully just because he’s not comfortable with sex
Quinni calling Sasha SIA was…yo I was like EXACTLYYYYY I was laughing & mad asf at Sasha for even saying ts & I was annoyed that Sasha still squeezed her way into Quinni’s good graces bc I knew for a fendi fact it wasn’t gonna go well.
Frr 😭
Wait did she call her Sia bc of the movie she made
@@yasmineguerin2852Yup that extenemy ableist movie, still shocked at how terrible it is (and I only watched bad reviews)
its so funny hearing people talk about this show without being aussie, because i feel like what made me love it so much were the elements that were just so intrinsically australian. not to mention the indigenous rep, the eshays, all the references to things that only aussie kids would get. im glad that even non-australians love it lmao
Yes!! I agree so much with this comment. Especially as a sydney sider, it felt awesome seeing places that are so recognisable to me. Even the bird calls they put in the backgrounds of scenes just fill me with so much joy since I hear them all the time. Ugh!
I'm not Australian nor have I ever visited but watching HBH...it was so rich in Australian elements I was taken a back and so generously overwhelmed :] my friend genuinely didn't know they had queer, black and neurodiverse ppl in Australia lmao 😭😭
@@belxxx3045 lol yes we are regular people in Australia
@@eedaj I'm sorry that must've came off weird asf, but yeah definitely gna indulge in more Australian media
@@belxxx3045 australia is extremely multicultural. it would be rare to go outside and not see a single queer, black or neurodivergent person.
that final scene with cash and darren was everything i’ve ever needed. like i’m not always one for big grand confessions of love (why am i lying) but this hit. if it was a drug, i’d be smoking this shit daily. like. i wanna wear that moment like it’s my skin
LMAO SAME
'ive loves you since year 8' really hit me for some reason idk
@@jarenuddin5963 i love when they say they’ve loved someone for years despite barely talking to them
@@jarenuddin5963 It was so fucking beautiful and sweet I could've died... And when he said that they were the only reason he came to school everyday....FUCK, TEARS BRO TEARS
The way you wrote that was so beautiful
The scene where malakai goes off to the woods is actually a really important part of aboriginal culture. He went back to country to reconnect with his people and his culture.
I really wish they explained this more though! To most watchers like me who don't know anything about Australian aboriginal culture, it feels like the writers could have fleshed out that part much more
@@mabelle3100 This show was made by Australians, for the consumption of mostly Australians. Just like there are plenty about international TV that I don't understand, many euro specific or US specific lingo/cultural references/politics, it is not a requirement of foreign shows to explain everything to everyone. Sometimes things aren't made for you in mind and thats okay :) when they're not, you just have to do the work. Malakai's arc is written by and for Aboriginal people and while I really appreciate so many people explaining Aboriginal culture to the world in the comments, we also have a responsibility (as the outsiders) to "pay the rent" and do the work ourselves. Google is free. I think it was fleshed out appropriately for what happened. Australians know exactly what is happening in those scenes. And just like when I watch US TV that references their elections or history (which I am not knowledgeable about) I have to do the work myself to translate the meaning. I hope this doesn't come across rude, not my intention at all. Happy watching! :)
@@mabelle3100 if they did an exposition dump, that would pull u right out of the story. US shows dont explain their cultural references such as elections. you have to work for it
@@chloeh7621 this is exactly the comment I’ve been looking for. It’s also just way more powerful if they don’t go out of their way to palate the references of the show for their audience, by making it a part of the rhythm of the show and not a whole thing on its own it makes it feel like a regular occurrence - which is what this show does so well.
@@chloeh7621 but with something like this you wouldn’t even know what to search. like all you would see is someone going into the woods. i don’t think they needed to fully explain it but how can you connect the dots if you didn’t know their were dots
Honestly I think Harper was just incredibly traumatized and needed to blame someone. And amerie was … there. She didn’t really blame her dad in the beginning, which is kind of understandable because it’s her dad. In one scene amerie said she is always there for Harper and Harper is really mad at her because in her eyes she wasn’t there for her when she needed her the most. It’s not really logical but again she has been through a lot. Like I was wondering what happened and almost everything I could think of happened (or almost happened). Of course that doesn’t excuse any of Harper‘s actions. Even if she didn’t want to hurt amerie and just wanted to sleep with the boys it was fucked up. Especially the threesome. Even if sex made her feel better after her trauma, doesn’t mean malakai needed sex. They definitely took advantage
Dusty too. He was just as bad, if not even worse. Almost sleeping with amerie just so he can hurt malakai? Taking advantage of him? Those accusations!!! And his sexist views about the threesome. And he didn’t have any trauma that explained his actions. He is just entitled
@@zoex3316 I feel like people don't see Dusty as a villain as much as Harper. Dusty sexually assaulted Malakai, Dusty lead on Amerie into think he was interested in her when turns out he hook up with her friend, Dusty lied on Ameria and JoJo out of spite. Overall Dusty and Harper are perfect together and when they caught chlamydia I tickled...
Yeah, I understood Harper. Trauma makes you do crazy things. Everyone's just going on living their life as normal meanwhile your whole perception of the world becomes dark and twisted and scary and if you can't tell anyone it feels like nobody cares. I understand why she did so many bad things. She needs therapy, honestly.
It wasn't sex Malakai was raped.
I hate how it all just gets glossed over in the end
A couple of things, I’m glad Sasha and Missy chewed Harper up for what she did to Malakai. Also, I totally knew Spider has (potentially) feelings for Amerie. For sure Ant, Spider and Dusty need to face consequences for their actions, more than just helping JoJo after school.
Also, I think Harper’s dad has some sort of mental illness like schizophrenia or bipolar disorder because that whole bit of what happened was intense.
I hope Quinni gets a beautiful love interest.
Also, am I the only one who thought Dusty was a jerk for kissing Amerie during the Cemetery party and then talking to her about Harper as if nothing happened? Player.
Definitely would watch season 2!!
Harpers dad was a meth addict (which was why she was taken away, why their house was in poor condition, and why he asked his daughter for coins and came home late. He was experiencing psychosis and paranoia while and after he was tripping
Dusty was a whole villain
Yeah that scene with Harper's dad was literally becasue he was high on meth, it shows the message where he's asking for "just a few points of shabs" from his dealer. Shabs is slang for meth in Australia.
@@eedaj I didn’t know, thank you for telling me. :)
@@eedaj Now I feel so stupid, I thought that was Harper texting a dealer and I had a hard time following why she was so paranoid when she invited someone over. And that would explain why Harper's dad seemed "normal" most of the time, I thought maybe he went off his meds. Everything makes so much more sense now lol
A Malakai explanation!
Malakai is Indigenous Australian (Aboriginal) and we have a very deep connection to the land. Going and spending time in the forest (out bush) can be incredibly healing and it's always very personal. It's why Missy (another Aboriginal character) was so worried, it's why they have certain jewellery and use certain words like "budoo" (dick). In one of the first scenes you can spot an "always was always will be" sticker on Missys car and that's why the boys say "nice car centrelink". It's a discriminatory thing because of stereotypes in Australia. That's why the police brutality scene is important. Australia was and still is dealing with a lot of police brutality issues, our incarceration rate is the highest in the world, we've had over 400 deaths in custody in the past 30 years and unfortunately racism is incredibly subtle here, it's mostly microaggressions more than blatant racism.
Malakai deserved better, but through culture and connections he'll heal in time, even if he never forgets it🖤💛❤️
i hope they touch on Missy and Malakai's Aboriginal identities , they mentioned it twice and definitely implied in the scene with the police after the club but it wasn’t super obvious. but that could have been a really important moment to show the injustice and erasure that Indigenous Australians face. hope there’s a second season and they can touch on it more, love the representation in all of the cast!!
I’m from Canada and we also have horrible biases against the indigenous population who have always lived here. The way this show touched on it is very accurate to how it plays out of indigenous vs cops here. It’s really sad but I think it gave a good nod to the reality of the situation. I hope they go more into it as well tho.
Oh, I think they should definitely touch on that more. I didn't know that.
I feel like they were definitely p obvious about them (or at least Malaki) being aboriginal? I feel like its just not picked up on well by anyone not Australian.
im assuming you're aussie? but to me it was very obvious. the situation with the police and the time in the bush to heal with country were obvious ones, and i think it was made even clearer whenever they acknowledged each other as sister/brother and then the necklace. non-aussies probably wouldnt notice that though
aussies know but yeah maybe for the clueless americans
I feel represented by Darren because I'm also a black non binary people that was assigned male at birth. I love their character and everything surrounding their parents pronoun discussion felt so real. It was nice to see someone with the same identities as me.
♡ 😊
The way they blared that airhorn when pronouns came up 😂
Same
@@milkflavored Not the bayaaaaaangggg
@@milkflavored they were so real for that
ur so right about quinni. as an autistic person, this was the first time we've had representation. all other 'autistic' charcters we've seen is based on steortypes. literally i cried when i saw the show coz it made me feel so normal. and she's a lesbian!!!
Quinni best character
hm, I’d say Sam from ‘Atypical’ is a pretty good representation of Autism. Sam is a VERY different character, but both of their portrayals are great.
@@hollowayJunior sam is very much just based off of stereotypes. quinni is the first time we've an actually autistic person play an autistic role and its actually had real input from the autistic perspective.
@@ellovescats Sorry for the long comment, all I’m saying is “I disagree about Sam, I agree about Quinni
I wouldn’t say he’s very much stereotyped, *I* know quite a few people in real life that are very similar to Sam - Very literal, almost never pick up on social cues, dependant on routines, difficult to deal with change, likes physical pressure (especially with hugging), etc etc. BUT it’s dramatized quite a lot, especially the bs with his therapist and his random interest in dating.
I didn’t know that Quinni’s actor actually has autism, she does a terrific job. It is much less stereotyped/dramatized when it comes to the sensory overloads, it doesn’t happen every five minutes like lots of writers think it does. I especially love how happy she is, it isn’t over the top like other shows would make it seem.
Sorry for the long comment
Yo Harper for me personally was the villain. I know she went through all that trauma but…. to be so mad and vile with no explanation and then to sleep with your ex best friends crush of like 5 years and her current boyfriend at the same time!!!! That was un called for retribution… like all she did was forget to let you in to her house. Like she was not the reason for your kidnapping or your dad attacking you. If I was amerie the friendship would be 100% done for me after that.
I’m so glad I’m not the only one who thinks this! Like, how was Amerie supposed to know Harper went through all that trauma??
Exactly Amerie is better than me because harper punches her in the face… and FOR WHAT??? Yea no couldn’t be me
Exactly. I don’t know why they remained friends. Harper’s behavior was very insensitive and unacceptable please
I believe Harper was jealous of her friend because she was in a stable home and have a loving family unlike Harper my opinion🤷
im an asexual nb person, and like cash really made me feel seen, i low key almost cried when that was revealed, i love how they didnt just make him a character incapable of feeling emotions towards people
and darren is just pretty much who i want to be on the outside, so confident in their identity, and being out to the adults in their life
CAN WE PLEASE TALK ABOUT HARPERS EXPERIENCE WITH TRAUMA CYCLES/REENACTMENT? I am NOT at all excusing Harper and her (and Dusty) taking advantage of Malakai and it was the most infuriating moment of the season for me. On the other hand, I hope that season 2 (NETFLIX BETTER NOT DROP THE BALL ON THIS ONE!!!) explores the way that Harper’s past trauma with the eshays as well as her father impacted her decision making in that moment. Would love to see Harper in therapy breaking down how her lack of support and positive attention as well as receiving the wrong and scary kinds of attention subconsciously messed with her ability to appropriately support others. Malakai deserved SOOOO much better a king but I would also love to see Harper gain more self awareness and reconcile with the situation
it’s giving a harper special episode (jules type beat)
All of Quinni’s interactions with Darren and just her time on screen made me love the show so much. 10s across the board
As a neurodivergent girl (adhd tho not autism). Sasha felt very realistic to me. There are a lot of people in very progressive spaces who hold a lot of ableism that they aren't aware of but they have a harder time seeing it because their self concept is one of being non-problematic
Yes! And when they get called out on their behavior, they get so offended and deny everything. It´s annoying af.
I hate how this show built up the events of one night that changed harper and more specifically her dynamic with amerie and the world around her. Only for it to be things completely out of Amerie's control, literally having nothing to do with her. But after everything she does to everyone especially Amerie they just forgive her.... Like be forreal!
Agreed, Harper should not have treated her like that for the ENTIRE show. In the end, they tried to give Harper a redemption arc which went over my head, because I could not fathom her condescending behavior.
@@ItsToby1000 I really hope that in season 2 they address this more throughly. Either continue on harper being the villain or give her the proper redemption arc that is valid enough to explain away all the BS she did.
@@Good13bye Like claiming her part in the wall
i really didn't like amerie at first cause i kept thinking she must've done something AWFUL for her friend to turn on her like that. I knew the night had to do with assault, I thought maybe she saw harper get assaulted and didn't care or something. But no, she just lost harper in the crowd and didn't come to the door when she showed up at her house....Like it sucks that happened to harper but her justification for dropping her friend made no sense
@@sabahk Exactlyyyyyy. Amerie was just trying to do her best through out the entire show and yes, she made mistakes but she seemed to be the only one who was paying dearly for them. She lost her best friend and became a social outcast. Her ex BFF took the guy she'd been crushing on for years then had sex with her current boyfriend after a traumatic incident. She felt guilty after her teacher was fired even though she was framed. She was trying to be there for everyone all the time while dealing with things that weren't her fault but she was being blamed for.
this show is so diverse: not only in terms of portraying queer characters, asian characters, autistic characters and portraying gen z so well, it also perfectly portrays australian culture- some of the things you were confused about. they nailed the slang, the eshays and the portrayal of indigenous characters.
im a white australian so please correct me if i'm wrong, but fyi when malakai went out into the woods i think he went walkabout, which is a part of aboriginal culture. i am pretty sure he did that to heal himself spiritually and come to terms with his aboriginality after the police brutality incident. i do believe that police violence incident was necessary, as it is just as prevalent in australia as it is in america. in fact, australia has a higher indigenous incarceration rate than america.
also, eshays are a whole epidemic australia (or at least here in melbourne). they're teenage boys who dress up as gangsters (whether they are or not) and are violent and speak like only in aussie slang hahaha.
Cash is my favourite because I'm asexual, and when I realised he was I was bawling 😭 It also really hurt when Darren said that ppl who don't want sex are psychos, and then saying something's wrong with Cash (although that may have been referring to how they felt like they were being treated). Darren is still top 3 tho.
the scene where Quinni was overstimulated on her first date was the most accurate on screen simulation of how that feels; I really had to pause the show for a bit. The writers, actors, wardrobe, editors, everyone ate on this show.
I honestly thought this wasn't gonna be that good but I was pleasantly suprised, it brought back the Skins (UK of course) vibes for me and I loved how they represented so many different groups of people, I'm hoping for a season 2, so they can explore Cash's asexuality and Malakai's bisexuality but overall it was just an enjoyable watch and an actual good representation of teenagers like Grand Army, it's a shame it got cancelled, hopefully this doesn't go down the same path.
Is it confirmed that Malakai’s really bi tho?
@@addaditamir I think he had an awakening, especially with the shower scene so i think it's at least hinted at, hopefully there's a second season so we can find out
I will forever be pissed that Grand Army got cancelled
@@yourfavoritepessimisticexi8041 Honestly, it had so much potential and focused on so many different groups of people and their struggles, unlike shows like Riverdale, it portrayed the lives of actual teenagers, Netflix has a way of cancelling good shows so I'm just hoping Heartbreak High doesn't go down the same path Grand Army did.
yessss big Skins vibes!!
finally, someone who brings up sasha's behavior. i honestly hated their whole relationship. Especially during the book signing scene. quinny in the beginning expressed her love for the books, and how she has been waiting for the book event for months on end. Now she also expressed to sasha that she in fact did not need to go with her, and she was free to go to the party. Sasha also changed quinny's plans even after she made it clear that she wasn't on board with those ideas. what really pissed me off is when she got mad for 'being forced" to go to something that she invited herself into. then continued to pin the blame on quinny. i really hope they in fact did not get back together and just became friends.
CAN YALL PLEASE HYPE UP THIS SHOW SO IT GETS A SEASON TWO NETFLIX ONLY GIVES SHOWS ANOTHER SEASON IF THEY ARE TALKED ABT ON SOCIALS DOESNT MATTER HOW MANY VIEWS IT GETS 😭😭
as an Aussie, I'm so glad to see australian productions finally get recognised internationally
I just clicked on it randomly one evening when browsing through Netflix and ended up binging the whole thing in like one sitting, I am *praying* for season two. I also agree with all the points you've made like they made me hate Harper a bit too much for me to just forgive her at the end lol.
Also *spoilers coming* I felt like the writer also hinted at Malakai possibly being bisexual with that random Shower scene so I hope they might explore that as well.
Im clearly a villain but god do I ship Malakai and Spider
I agree, also saw some possible, very subtle hints at Spider being bi or gay. Not sure tho, maybe that was just me, we'll have to wait it out :)
@@fanvonvielem773 He def had that chemistry with Ant and Malakai, on top of carrying a torch for Amerie
I like that all of the characters in this diverse cast had moments that were selfish, unempathetic, or ignorant. I think it’s easy to write characters from marginalized communities as perfect all the time, but everyone f-cks up and is self absorbed sometimes. Obviously it doesn’t justify that behavior and I hope it’s called out, but it does make for more realistic characters
We need to talk about Spider and his dynamic with everyone in the show. Like I hate him but I love him, he adds a lot to the show. Also, I need more of him and Ameri like I want to know his backstory. He was one of my favs for sure. Also no ones talking about Ant or Missy. They were really good too. Missy took care of Malakai like Harper and Dusty should have. That whole storyline was pretty much dropped. I need answers lmao.
Missy is such a cool character. I wish she and her brother get more screen time next season. I’d love to see her and malakai’s friendship development or just more insight about her
Honestly, I feel like Ant could be a really cool character if he stopped hanging out with Spider and Dusty cuz theyre bringing him down tbh. He seems really sweet and genuine and we see more of him in season 2 😁😁
FRR
I loved heart break high. It hits incredibly well for me as a gen z Australian who has aboriginal ancestry. I felt so attached to missy and malakai because it meant a lot to see aboriginal representation and have story lines that focus on them aswell as treating them as normal people with identities beyond their race.
I felt like the fashion and language was so true to kids my age, I could feel as if I could be friends with anyone of them because all the characters felt REAL
I totally get where you’re coming from with Darren’s dad, but I really loved it because the original dealt in huge part with him as a character growing out of these opinions, it isn’t: you cured me by being who you are, but more of a „I got past all my bullshit because I worked through it and so can (and should) other people, you are here and I love you because we are capable of change“
Exactly!
Okay I've watched through the vid and gosh it was good! It's so nice seeing an Australian show be covered by someone else, and your commentary has had me LIVING on Tiktok. It's so great.
In regards to Harper and Amerie, a part of me wonders if Harper's 'hatred' of Amerie actually has more to do with her hatred of herself, especially after her assault. After having grown up together, I can see Harper and Amerie viewing each other as extensions of themselves- that's why Harper goes after the men that Amerie is interested in and is why their 'break up' hurts so much, but it's also why Harper did it to begin with. Hurting Amerie was a projection of the pain she already felt in the face of her trauma.
Just some thoughts! I've been thinking a lot about the show since I watched it.
ooo i really like this interpretation! i hope they dig into this more next season
damn, i definitely see this, and it's such a high-level analysis! therapy/psychology background here??
When Darren called Amerie a “pick me bitch” i died😭
It is a CRIME that this show is underrated and didn't even crack the top 10 in the US at all when it released. It is so good and I hope it gets a season 2!
I think it'll be a word of mouth thing. I refuse to let this show flop when Elite is going into Season SIX.
@@milkflavored elite is just a sex tape series at this point.
It’s prob because of all the Aussie references that fly over non-Australians heads that didn’t make it as popular in the US, like, this show is heavy in Australian references, the eshays, the slang, the small details in how the classroom is set up, the teachers behaviour towards the students, the subtle details about Indigenous Aussies and walkabout country (i think that’s what it’s called?). It’s all very Australian and would be nostalgic to older Australians, and would be relatable to teen Australians. (The stuff about Aboriginal culture would be understood by Australians and I saw many people from outside of Australia not understanding what a lot of it was)
Example, the rich boys calling Amerie and her friends Centrelink, and them calling the boys rapist back. Its a funny scene, but it makes it twice as funnier when you know what Centrelink is and you understand why she called them rapists, especially since they’re private school kids
It’s a good show and that too is what made it popular, but it’s just not AS popular in the US as some ppl thought it would be, in part due to the references
@@kawansiesquad6659 I understand and agree but like k-dramas are popular in the US. Theres stuff from different places popular In America and were similar then you think
@@yasmineguerin2852 difference is that the more k-dramas you watch the more Korean references you start to pick up as it starts to become common across almost all k-dramas. Kinda like tropes, the more you watch of it you start to notice similarities. There aren’t rlly that many Australian targeted shows like heartbreak high that are filled with Australian “tropes”. “Home and away” even as Australia’s most iconic tv show isn’t steeped in references and is mostly targeted towards an older audience because of how long running it is.
That’s why heartbreak high got so popular in the first place, there rlly aren’t many shows like heartbreak high, which contributed to its sudden rise in popularity, especially in Australia which then spread overseas. There’s “little lunch” and “the inbestigators” that may trigger nostalgia due to them taking place in primary school but none focusing on teens specifically. They’re both funny, and have many Aussie references, but still only about little kids.
Main point is, there are pretty much no other Australian shows like heartbreak high so subtle references go straight over non-Aussies heads. No other Australian show would mention Centrelink, or tuckshop, or eshays.
I could say “h2o: just add water” is the closest teen Australian show to become sort of popular overseas but that is because it hardly has any Australian references, it’s pretty much like any other American show but with an Australian accent
While I don’t think it excuses her actions, I think it’s important to understand hyper sexuality as a reaction/response to trauma, specifically sexual trauma. harper says multiple times that things “just happened” which is a common thing among victims of SA. it’s a coping mechanism in which victims attempt to regain control of their sexuality and their body by acting overly sexual and engaging in risky sexual behaviors. this is why harper hooks up with both of amerie’s crushes, not necessarily just to get at Amerie but because she is traumatized and is reacting in a very normal way for victims.
The FIRST FIRST show that I think really captured the essence of Gen-z was heartstopper. It almost knocked me in my gut how close to the show I felt because of the familiarity of my age group and I loved that it also wasn't afraid to be wholesome. I'm looking forward to more shows like these!
I couldn't watch the show without knowing what happend to Harper first and watching it witch that knowledge puts a lot of thinks in perspective and makes her behaviour more excusable. She desperately wanted to gain back control over her life, her sexuality and at the same time making herself less feminine (hair, baggy clothes). She was mad at Amerie for not being there for her when she needed her most and also I feel like she blaimed it all at her just so she could be angry at someone. Because her trauma wasn't caused by one person, it was hard to be angry at world for being unfair so she blaimed the one person that was there. It wasn't fair but a realistic trauma respond. She was broken, lonely, terrified and didn't know how to deal with it (after all she is just 17) and lashed out.
explainable***. not "excusable"
watching quini on screen was really emotional. i’ve never seen someone who acts like me and interacts with people in a similar way as me and is misunderstood the same way.
I’m ace and god was it nice to see a character like me, but holy shit was it also so painful. Cash was perfect representation because yeah, it sucks being asexual. It’s hard and you kinda hate yourself for it. I felt all of Cash’s pain, it was done pretty well but I would have loved to hear the word said at least once. Even in that last class when Jojo was talking about why people wouldn’t want to have sex, I just wanted to hear the word. I know it was set up to be alluded to but god, I just wanna hear it on tv. It never even came up as a reason Cash didn’t want to have sex with Darren. I want to feel real, man
Okay but I couldn't deal with the 3sum part of the show, it really boiled me. It was so f-ed up what Harper (& dusty) did, after Malakai got body slammed/high/drunk/broke up with Amerie. He was in a deep emotional breakdown and the 3sum scene made me uncomfortable because i felt like both Harper and Dusty took advantage of that. (Ik everyone was high & drunk, but it still irked me how Harper said she wanted to "help" by getting intimate with him.)
i was bored and i decided to watch this show with no expectation whatsoever..and i didn't expect to enjoy it that much...it is so sos goood....but why is it so underrated..it needs more recognition it deserves
The way Darren took care of Quinny and protected her was so heartwarming ❤️
I agree, they made us hate Harper way too much, like I understand that that traumatic night made her focus all her anger towards amerie even though she wasn’t at fault as trauma response, but I just couldn’t get rid off my dislike for her, specially since she and dusty basically SA’d malakai.
Also I liked that they made the beautiful guy the ugliest inside, I hope they make him suffer next season.
It’s not too much. She still acted horribly. An explanation does not equal justification.
the beautiful guy who is supposed to be? spider? dusty? cause spider is definitely far from being the best looking guy on here.
@@celestinoclemente1954 LMAO I THINK THEY MEANT DUSTY- he wasn't giving
no one in the show talked about how harper and dusty sexually assaulted malakai?!?!? like he was high and stuff and even tho harper said it was consensual it wasn’t? i was so angry when she was yelling at dusty and said something about the threesome being consensual cuz it definitely wasn’t.
I can't help but have respect for this show at very least for choosing to film at my high school, for which our school received a big fat check in the mail (which granted us some fancy new cameras for the underfunded photography faculty which I personally appreciated).
So cool.
Wait did they do it when you were on break or smth
I really HATED harper at first cause it was so annoying watching her be mad at her best friend on top of her entire life crumbling around her and not giving her any kind of information as to why they weren't friends anymore. Then her getting with dusty and later had a threesome with Malakai but she "wasn't trying to punish" Amerie. Once her story was revealed I did feel really bad for her but that doesn't excuse anything she did and I was a little upset by everyone kinda just forgiving her
Amerie didn't remember what fully happened that night. That's why for the entire season she was having flashbacks. She was even confused as to why Spider had such a issue with her (which was then explained).
The thing with Spider is that I gave him a lot of leeway throughout the show because I felt like he had a story and I really hope they incorporate that in Season 2. I feel like him and Ant have some sort of chemistry that could also be really good for Season 2, then again him, Ant and Dusty have honestly been a-holes the entire season :)
It felt like he was forcing himself to be an asshole throughout the show. In the only two clips we have of him before the incident with Amerie he seems like a decent enough guy. He's actively trying to be as annoying as possible.
That's so true, I wish he would just be normal or sm
HE AND ANT DEFINITELY HAVE CHEMISTRY OMD.
@@xandroskro4450 fr, but I didnt know if he the show was hinting that or if they were hinting him and amerie...
@@blxckrxses282 ngl i dont think him and amerie have that much going on between em
Someone already commented explaining but I feel like Malakai's story does require a little bit of understanding of Aboriginal culture to make sense. It's something I thought about while watching the show for the first time bc it made me wonder if non-Australians would get what was going on at all given the show is 100% targeted to an aussie audience. I'm getting the impression that in S2 more Indigenous culture will be explored through Malakai and Missy. I hope so anyway, swear to fucking god I've seen soo little Aboriginal youth representation in mainstream media where they actually talk about their connection to country lmfao.
Would absolutely recommend researching Aboriginal history too, it's annoying seeing non-Australians not acknowledging Malakai and Missy as blak because of their lighter skin. There's a whole history there that's important to know and respect when discussing their characters.
Hello, as a Black African person, I am a little bit confused when people refer to Australian Aboriginals as black. I thought of Australian aboriginals as like Native Americans and Native Americans aren't black. Because Australian natives are well...Native to Australia and not necessarily Africa since humans migrated, I get confused when people put them in my racial group. Are they not a different racial group? Or are Blak and black different things? Like they aren't referring to like Black Africans, they are referring to a different group? Is it a similar spelling but different meaning? Like i'm confused
@@yourfavoritepessimisticexi8041 These are some good questions! It does kind of highlight why I was saying it's important to research though. I don't think I can appropriately explain the gravity of Aboriginal history but I'll give it a go.
With absolutely no disrespect, Aboriginal Australians and Native Americans are not comparable. Aboriginal culture is one of the oldest cultures in the world dating back at least 50,000 years. In comparison Native Americans date back approx. 15,000 years.
Of course having a culture that spans such an incredible amount of time as 50,000 years does mean it's harder get a clear understanding of genetic heritage but the real problems are caused (of course) by British colonialism.
In the 1700's when the British invaded Australia they attempted to completely erase Aboriginal identity resulting in what we now call the Stolen Generations (too much too explain here.. would recommend reading about it though). This is why a large section of Australia's Aboriginal people are fairly light-skinned even though of course before British invasion that was not at all the case.
Aboriginal Australians do have strong genetic ties to the Africa of 75,000 years ago, which may be why the term Black applies. But to be honest I'm not 100% if that's why or if it's just simply because Aboriginal people pre-Stolen Generation have very dark skin.
Blak is a fairly modern term used just for First Nations people. Possibly to separate the identities of Aboriginal descendants and African descendants but again.. I'm not too sure. There is a real struggle in the search for identity amongst First Nations people, the generational trauma is deeply ingrained.
Sorry I have no idea if that even helps explain.. but I hope it at least helps you understand a bit more of the history and why connection to country was so impactful on Malakai lmaoo
TLDR: Aboriginal Australians are one of the oldest cultures in the world. Partly descended from Africa but definitely a separate identity to African-Australians or African-Americans.
@@yourfavoritepessimisticexi8041 blak and black are different things. although indigenous people are the oldest civilisation, they ofc came from africa like everyone else. you should research it cos they are different things
@@katsli4824 but they went through similar things
I think a lot of the drama between all the characters made so much sense to me because teenage drama is always so confusing and most of the time misunderstood by the people involved. Each character made mistakes that any teenager would make, and they all coped with it in their own ways whether that be shutting off their emotions, blaming someone unnecessarily and channeling their anger out on them (*cough* Harper *cough*). It was so relatable to watch them all make those decisions, and being frustrated by seeing them making the wrong decisions on how to handle their problems made it even more relatable
Literally loved Quinni from the beginning, just a literal sweetheart
hi! I'm on ace and bi spectrum and it see the representation of an ace character was amazing. It is the first time I have ever seen someone as an ace person, it made me feel so happy and I literally screamed when I found out Cash was ace. Asexuality is so hidden that it makes a lot of people feel alone or not valid and this show really made me feel better about being ace.
I think the main reason I liked this show is because it felt like you knew ALL the characters. They all had such good character development and all had a storyline that was interesting
hi !! im a indigenous australian and i wanted to explain the whole "malakai just going out into the woods and being outdoorsy"
many First Nations people like to connect with the country and land so they can spiritually heal. i personally have been to camps where we just camp outdoors and it really eases me and it just honestly feels like all my problems just float away. malakai probably just talked about what was going on with Missy's brother and connected with the land by camping out and just walking through the country to be put as ease.
im also trans, gay and asexual, and possibly autistic (my family isn't currently financially able to even consider a diagnosis) and all the representation just makes me so happy !! i really relate with ca$h because i really wouldn't want to do anything sexual because i just dont enjoy it and it makes me feel kind of sick and anxious. darren being under the trans umbrella is just great, i don't think i've ever seen any major trans representation, though they should have gotten the hint with ca$h, he was obviously really uncomfortable.
but overall i love this show so much and if this doesn't get a season 2 i will be torn !! i need to know what happens with darren and ca$h, and malakai and amerie !!
I’m really glad the heartbreak high reboot has access to an international audience. Most Australian tv sucks and as an Australian I can’t stand watching it but this reboot was so fresh and real. The language used in the scripting is current and accurate to common Australian speech. There’s so much I can praise about this show and I was very pleased with the quality in the writing, the acting the movement of the whole show was fantastic.
Hey, Malakai went to Missy’s country to heal. it’s a common Aboriginal practice and a lot of what is done is sacred, hence cannot be portrayed xx
This show is literally AMAZING, I really hope it gets the recognition it deserves and gets a 2nd season bc it's so good and has GREAT representation. As an ace person myself I felt incredibly validated with Cash's character and I need to see his and Darren's relationship grow and Darren to educate themselves more about asexuality and them exploring their dynamic it would be so interesting 💖
I’m almost 40 but Quinnie is one of the most relateable characters I’ve ever seen on screen. I may be biased since I’ve been following Chloe since I received my diagnosis 3 years ago. The “not normal enough” line hit my heart HARD.
If I’m not mistaken Malaki (and Missy) are Aboriginal and Missy‘s brother takes him back to the Bush to reconnect to his heritage and heal
The reason that Harper was beefing with Amerie is because Harper showed up at Amerie’s place that night since Amerie said she was able to stay over. Harper was able to tell that Amerie was actually inside with Spider even though Amerie tried to pretend like she wasn’t there. So on the worst night of her life she was turned away by her best friend which made her terrible night a million times worse in the end.
It was number 1 in Australia, but I wish it was number 1 in the US 😢
Edit: I read somewhere the police episode was written by a native Australian and he’s talked about how he and their father have experienced brutality at the hands of police
Native Australian isn’t politically correct, it’s Aboriginal Australian
@@chazsmith9219 Thank you i didn't know!
NETFLIX, Please don't cancel this show! This show is not only a great show but it captures everything so perfectly, please and I mean please give us another season
It's a woke series they won't cancel it. That's pretty much Netflix game right now
@@Jeremy-wp4yh they better not lol, they’ve been canceling all the really great shows yk
I really do hope this show gets a second season because it was just so good. I went through so many emotions especially anger.
AMERIE is the best main character ever, she isn't problematic, very nice and actually a very good friend.
SASHA and MISSY for me were just off. I know the incest wall was messed up, but they just dropped her like she killed their mother or something. They got over what she wrote on the incest wall so why didn't they forgive her?? It was just rubbed me off the wrong way and felt very fake.
HARPER made me angry from episode 1 - 7. Even after she gave her reason, her behaviour still wasn't justifiable. She could have communicated what she went through. The whole boyfriend thing is a pattern. She literally took any man that AMERIE thought of liking. Also there is no way that the threesome was consensual. MALAKAI was traumatized, DUSTY was high and possibly drunk, and she was high but quite away because only her seemed to enjoy it. Anyways I am still trying to find a place in my heart for the drama queen herself.
I really wanted to like DUSTY😭😭😭😭. Why did he have to be terrible. Waiting for his redemption arc 😁.
SPIDER is hands down the worst character next to HARPER and DUSTY but a part of me felt sorry for him. I thought he likes MALAKAI tho 🤭🤭, I was wrong. I hope he finds love and becomes better .
Personally I loved ANT, he just felt like a child to me. He just needs a better group of friends because DUSTY and SPIDER are not it. Maybe he should hang out with MALAKAI??
DARREN is a CHARACTER. Their sexuality wasn't their personality and I loved that. I did not like the way they were putting pressure on CASH, loved everything else about them though.
CASH just needed more time to figure himself out. Life for him is hard. He finally did !!!!! Love CASH.
QUINNI is a DARLING!!!!! That is all that needs to be said.
My top 3 characters are
QUINNI
AMARIE
MALAKAI
Loved this show with all my heart.
I absolutely LOVED the eshay representation in this show. I'm Australian and eshays are completely and utterly unique to Australian culture and I feel like they captured this so well.
Hey, I’m ace, and I have to say; this was the best representation, I’ve EVER seen! I love cash and I could talk for hours about how good he and his sexuality is written ❤
I just can't get past the fact that they don't wear uniforms. It doesn't feel like an Australian school without them.
yesss I loved the asexual representation with cash, you right it is rarely shown, I’m an asexual and alot of people don’t get it so it’s good to see it being portrayed on tv
Omg I'm early for like my favorite show this year after heartstopper
I think they really slayed this show. All the characters served their purpose and we love quinni
7:48 I felt like that scene was amazing. Because when I came out to my parents, months later they respond like this after we got into an argument why they aren’t supportive. That scene was real and authentic something people don’t want to hear today!
as a person with the same best friendship as Am and Harp all throughout middle school and highschool (and to right now, ten years baby), I could fully understand the drama and the extent to which they elevated it. sometimes you miscommunicate and then everything gets fd up so fast that you have this big explosion (hormone levels off the charts) and you can either make it worse or better. I fully bought into their friendship, despite some of the stupid shit Harper does later on.