One of the plot threads I haven't heard enough people talk about is the relationship between Harper and the principal, like her teaching Harper how to drive and just generally keeping a close eye on her, I thought it was soooo sweet and underrated!
Devi is waaaaay more self destructive than Amerie. A lot of Devi's problems were 1000% her fault but Amerie's problems, while partially because of her, were more other people screwing with her
Yeah Amerie finds herself in situations but she does have some imput, like her friends suppirt those decisions (her and Quinni digging up the notes the cxmlords buried) that got he caught but she always gets the blame. Whereas Devi does her things and her friends find out later
@@brontehely2916 Devi is from the show ‘Never Have I Ever’ in the video it’s mentioned. Whether they think Devi from that show is more or less self destructive than Amerie from Heartbreak High
I low-key loved that scene where she stood up and walked straight out of the hall, when spider was doing his public speech and started verbally mansplaining about how women are awful to men in present society (or something similar)
@@yuenmienyu tbf i feel as if since the breakup happened right b4 he rlly hurt and pissed wihch may have led to that speech bc i dont think even when he initially set out his speech was supposed to go that far and it was kinda obvious he was targeting Missy
@@paintingdreams290 yeah but that's not an excuse? just cuz a girl broke up with you doesn't mean you get to make a whole misogynistic speech. tho im glad that in the end he got some actual development and improved on himself 😋
@@ronilicious i agree i'm just also pointing out that it seems a lot more clear that Spider was saying what he did more out of spite than actually believing in it
i was too... i rewatched all their scenes and it was so touching even though i didnt think about spider twice in the first season. and missy is just an immaculate character.
I kinda agree but it was very unstable and explosive at times, it makes sense they're young and discovering themselves I Shipped them so hard and didnt wanna see any one of them crying or angry, I literally thought cash was gonna get *unalived* on many occasions or that Darren was gonna cheat on him and they could never recover from that ..
FRRR i fell in love with them in season one and got even more invested in season two because the plot surrounding their relationship was SO GOOD i love them so much😭😭
the man Ca$h is dancing with in the park is an actual Sydney icon, Danny Lim. If you’re not from Sydney you just won’t understand how iconic this season was!
I really like Spider’s development this season. The whole point of showcasing his mom is to see what sort of environment he was raised in. His mom isn’t just a terrible person, she wholeheartedly believes her son will do something dangerous to a woman. She believes he will become a criminal based on a “prophetic” dream she had when he entered puberty. That means he’s probably been hearing her say that she has no faith in him being a good person since he was as young as 12 probably. So Spider, whose mom doesn’t believe in him simply played into what other expect him to be: abrasive, toxic,and annoying. Him being with Missy not only gave him someone who believes he can be more than that but also gave him someone who’ll stay. Not saying it excuses his actions, but it gives him an opening towards redemption and possibly growing out of the immature phase. Another thing about Spider is the demisexual representation he exhibits. Even back in season 1, he’s shown to not feel sexual attraction like others do. When he was hooking up with Amerie, he could not get aroused. His note saying”betrayed by my on d*ck” shows how he’s struggling with the inability to feel attraction like others. Missy is the only partner we know of who wasn’t put off by his inability to not get it up which eventually led to him feeling comfortable in her presence and getting aroused. Spider is an ass*ole but he’s not a criminal/villain as evident in when he realizes how incredibly unhinged Voss was after hearing the entire story of why Voss has this hatred towards society. I think he can change. With some therapy and maybe putting boundaries between him and his mom.
yea i think his mom is a bioessestialist? I think is what it's called? where women genuinely believe that men are biologically bad somehow like they are destined to be bad people just because they are men
I completely agree! I think his arc was such a positive representation of how men can change if they want to and how the red pill pipeline can just lead to more anger and hurt and loneliness than anything as I feel like he saw how his future could be when he heard the full story of Voss’ dad and realised he didn’t want to end up like him and he made the choice to be better for himself which is so so important! I personally was a huge fan of his arc
yesss and theres so many guys out there like him. I think villainizing these ppl will make things worse. I hate how we just cancel ppl now and dont give them the chance to be better. especially when theyre young like this. Don't get me wrong, he has a long way to go but these situations arent so black and white as the media would like to portray
This was one of the first shows in recent times that had an actual love triangle. Like all the three were getting it on for all of them even though one of them is unhinged. And since it's been long enough I always was rooting for spider and ant. They handled their character arcs so well🤌
Yes! I was rooting for the actual love triangle, and loved it when it happened! But how Rowan pick Amerie over Malakai? Like no offense to Amerie, but Malakai…😍😍
I think spider is somewhat an important character, cause people like that are wayy too common in this generation. I don't think we needed that much focus on his 'development' tho. And Honestly the entire cvmlord situation, despite being annoying and dumb, shit like that is way too realistic😭
agreed! spiders character and story arch is communicating and pointing out something HUGE happening in human society today. these boys just need partners to nurture them basically. its not just a coincidence that most these alpha debate lord grifter types are.... single.....
@@meggem2581 They do not need partners to nurture them. Getting into a relationship is not the solution. People need to be stable before getting into a relationship. These kids need parental guidance, and we see that this season. The guys are given bad advice from the gym coach, and this stems from his dad. If his dad had accepted his faults and took accountability, his son would have turned out a better person, but instead he’s immature and ignorant. And Spider starts to realize this, but he shouldn’t depend on a relationship to become a better person.
i think the focus was needed. this show is watched by mainly teenagers and by depicting a guy going from essentially an incel to redemption creates the chance for other guys to learn from the show. sadly, there isnt an absence of men to fill the void andrew tate's content left and unless someone else gets to them first and shows them an example of how men should and can act, more will just fall down that pipeline. i get what you mean about it being realistic which can make it kinda hard to watch - from a woman's perspective, seeing the stats on this sort of ideology growing is terrifying and people like using media as a form of escapism from these issues. but i think the show takes its role as a piece of influential media seriously and realises that whilst talking about this stuff makes it less fun, it does mean it has a bigger impact.
@@Janet67498 i agree, i guess i should specify, guys like this need to be nurtured in some way. parents, therapists, mentors. because without being nurtured i think it is 100x harder to become a better person. support helps people actually get better.
I think that the relationship between Cash and Chook was done amazingly. The fact that a character as vile as chook had a genuine moment of vulnerability is wild and incredible.
Yes! Chook is still scary, violent, a professional crim, but the scene at the flat where he's telling Cash to come back, and then the whole scene on the boat -- Chook uses Cash, but he also cares about him, and they went through being in group home together, labelled as "child of addict" together 💔 I'm glad Cash is getting free of Chook, and I would not want to meet Chook irl, but that scene was so powerful, I could see the frightened kid that Chook once was
I was just scared that at some point this show will turn its pitch and someone’s gonna kill someone or at least be violent, especially with the ‘I love you dareen’ text not delivering.. I was shit scared. The pacing the music the lighting design,the art d was spot on, it did keep me on my toes and I was glad the air was cleared between chock and ca$h and they had their moment.
Devie is more self-destructive, for sure. Amerie does shoot herself in the foot at times. But her issues with Malakai were her being gaslighted by him more than anything. And I am so glad they had her call it out, because the gaslighting irked me. XD
I think you missed the mark in describing Quinnie’s character arch. The point was Darren and company were not acknowledging the amount of work and effort it takes for her to mask and Yes she didn’t like that she was being to feel distance from her friends she was had a point. It was valid for her to call Darren out for basically saying she wasn’t putting in enough effort when her whole life has been spent trying to accommodate to others and people don’t do it to the same extent for her. Also I feel like Darren and Ca$h kissing at the end in addition to him coming to the dance to win Darren back over was enough evidence to imply that they may be back together. If anything it’s pretty ambiguous and it don’t think it was obvious that they were broken up.
no i definitely agree about quinni’s arch. darren and all of her other friends were treating her like shit on her birthday. they said they planned out this whole day for her but nobody (but cash) paid any ounce of attention to her. i also think it’s sort of weird for them to be her friends, but not take into account her autism and how it affects her when planning things. i feel like most friends would try to accommodate to that, especially on her birthday.
i was very confused by Darren's behavior towards Quinni this season because last season they were always very accommodating with her and they made sure to pay attention to what she needed. it was to the point where they did a much better job than i did with my autistic sibling (i know Quinni and Darren aren't siblings but my sibling and i are also friends) and i lived with my autistic sibling for 18 years. the sudden change of heart didn't make much sense to me. the only way that I could maybe see this working but I feel like it should have been led up two more is that Darren may have felt a bit burnt out from accommodating for Quinni but if so, why did that just come out of nowhere? it's something ppl deal with sometimes and if they were feeling that way and had an arc about it that would have been nice to see. Quinni seemed like she might have been burnt out too. both of those things are valid and maybe they can do things to address that in the future?
@@jordyn2888 i thought they were trying to accommodate though? especially darren, ppl were suggesting things and they were like "no way she wouldn't like that" in the end they planned a zoo with frog costumes which she does love, i'm pretty sure she has a pet frog, but she could not enjoy it bc of all the change that was happening in her frirends' lives and not being able to contribute with the bird psycho investigation. i don't think the celebration itself was bad although i do think that they did not pay much attention to her throughout the day
@@allurajane4979 im not sure if i would say that taking her interests into consideration is necessarily being accommodating. like yeah planning something for your friend, you want to consider what they would enjoy and stuff. but i was more referring to them springing the surprise on her, running into the zoo and leaving her by herself, not checking on her to see when she wanted to move on to the next exhibit (leaving her by herself again, not giving her time to take everything in), interrupting her meditation so she could calm down type things
Heartbreak high is what euphoria SHOULD have been and COULD have been if Sam Levinson hired a writing room like a normal producer. My lord he really ran the show into the depths of hell and those actors deserve so much better. HBH shows us that it is possible to tie up loose ends!!! CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?!?!
No thanks. Euphoria is great as it already is and heart break high is also great as it is. Euphoria is dark, edgy and beautiful. Heart Break High is light-hearted, funny, relatable and intentionally cringe in a good way
Nah 'cause I balled my eyes out when I saw malakai's letter get burned. Honestly it was my mum's fault, I was watching it in the same room as her and she was watching it kind of and said "aw, amerie won't get his letter". I DIDN'T NEED THAT
The only thing on Spider is I wish they addressed his situation with Amerie regarding last season because I don’t understand how the entirety of the season it was showing flashbacks between them up until the last episode only for it not to even be talked about in season 2. I really thought the “forget Amerie” note was him!
@@cloudymind6511 Ik it was Rowan, it just would’ve made more sense if it was Spider since he obviously had feelings for Amerie for so long and then to drop it and for him to get with Missy, its like that whole storyline was trashed!
Feelings change though teenagers are like that they lose interest really easily and gain interest in others. Also, it’s not like they had some deep connection.
@@idk-uv7mt Exactly, not everything has to be spelt out for the audience. They tried hooking up, it was weird and they moved on from it. Why would they need to address it? 😂
For season 3 I’m gonna need Dusty and Malakai back at Hartley High, mention of Rowan getting medical assistance (don’t need him back,sorry not sorry), more about Harper and how she’s dealing with being emancipated from her father and some information about her mother and her whereabouts (if she’s alive). Would love to know why it seems like Darren’s mother and Darren have an estranged relationship, it can’t be just because the mother has a shitty boyfriend, why would she choose a boyfriend over her own child? And I’d like Malakai to have more friends, all the happiness in the world for Quinni, Cash, Amerie, Harper and Darren because they deserve it
Does everyone just forget how awful Harper actually is? She took full advantage of malakai when he was in too vulnerable a state to consent to anything...whilst simultaneously coercing Dusty into a threesome he wasn't comfortable with... Now contrast that with Ant refusing to take advantage of her this season because she was in a vulnerable state. No amount of trauma excuses her using other people for her pleasure, SAing Malakai and shaming Dusty in front of the whole school when he started becoming uncomfortable with their actions.. She's just as bad as Chook if not worse.
@@realestsienna I was hoping for some character development with his character because in season 1 they just leaned too much into him being good looking and it became his personality, and I always thought he was nice he just surrounded himself with people like Spider who isn’t the best influence and him being there for Darren proved that for me
@@darrenmills9832 I’m not a Harper apologist but Dusty wasn’t coerced into the threesome he was a willing participant, all he said was that it made him uncomfortable how into it Harper was I’m assuming he meant he didn’t like sharing his girlfriend with somebody else. I agree with you though she should have never initiated anything sexual with Malakai he needed a friend in that moment not sex, publicly embarrassing Dusty was uncalled for.
@ambershoba I kinda got the impression that Dusty is straight and he did it purely for her benefit.. it just doesn't seem like hes sexually attracted to men at any other point in the show. I could be wrong but he's never established as bisexual, unlike other characters.
The C-Lord club was unserious to me, also I think Spider had some character development, but for him to switch up after being rejected made me side eye him. And Rowan was scary omg.
so real like im so sick of ppl defending spider for immediately switching up like his feelings were valid cuz he got rejected but the way he dealed with them - absolutely not. like he can be sad and feel all his feelings but that doesn't justify misogyny like he needs to change for himself at the end of the day.
Yeah, that's fair. I guess what the writers are trying to say is that he's just starting to become better and it's a process? That being said, it would've been such a great opportunity for him to stop running as school captain, with or without Missy. It would've been very solid proof that his will to grow was not just tied to her.
The fashion was top tier😭😭😭 Harper’s outfit ateee hard as much as I hated her in the first season I also appreciate the fact that we got to know a different side of her and I actually don’t dislike her anymore
@@stancinatti8198 ah yeah that's valid, personally I kinda got where harper was coming from considering she'd just been through an extremely traumatic event and definitely wouldn't be able to think perspectively enough to like instantly realise it wasn't ameries fault, cause from her pov, her best friend just locked her out of the house for no reason when harper needed her the most, but yeah at the same time the way she treated amerie was quite terrible so I get why you'd dislike her
@@hicutiepatootie oh don’t now she was dope this season but yea even a “I’m not ready to talk about it rn” would’ve been sufficient but I guess you can’t except everybody to be as emotionally as intelligent as you or the next person
I liked what they did with Rowan. It was an opportunity for Amerie to stop and reflect on how her actions have affected others, and to take a different direction. I don't think they were giving Rowan a free pass. I think they were showing that he was a fucked up human and not a monster who needed to die. They were showing that Amerie could do the right thing as a human and not always just react to things. It was touching even though yeah you realize you are empathizing with someone who did horrifying things.
YES THANK YOU!!!! some people are too quick to say a character deserves death. i hated rowan but that final scene with his brother brought me to tears.
@@misterpseudonymthe sad part is, this is where years of media have left us. Think of most any film, tv thriller, etc: the answer with the "bad" one is almost always exterminating, rarely curiosity about how we got here and if there are any ways to prevent mental health leading others to these places. We see monsters everywhere rather than humans, and to me this is one factor behind so much of the craziness (and racism and bias and transphobia ...) that is tearing the world apart
For me, I think that with Spencer/spider. He did get character development and only reason I say this is because I have seen people say that he didn’t it was just for Missy, but I honestly don’t think so because I think he changed because of her. The creepy coach guy whatever was talking you could see on spiders face that he didn’t really like the stuff he was saying he was like like hold on that’s kind of weird. I feel like that did show that he was understanding where other people were coming from and be like oh wait I am kind of the problem.
Yeah I think that’s a good point, Missy showed him that he needed to change and in the end he said he also needed change for himself. I also really liked him and Missy together and liked how they showed why he is the way is
Missy planted the questions on his head. But i agree the change was most def bc he realized the coach was quite literally what he fears he will become because of his mom. It was a wakeup call for him, not Missy.
@@valentinafangirling yeah I think that’s also a fair point, he realized that the male teacher was not who he wanted to become and was starting to fear him as a person
Darren and Cash are so important to me!! I was in a relationship with someone who is asexual (I’m DEFINITELY not) and seeing Darren and Cash’s relationship made us both feel so very seen and helped me understand I didn’t do anything wrong. I love love love heartbreak high always.
OMG YES the abortion representation...literally makes me want to cry! i have had 2 abortions (got pregnant once on the pill and once with a mirena BE SAFE OUT THERE YALL) and both times i thought they were going to be a ~breeze~ because of how they are represented in media... spoiler THEY WERE NOT S BREEZE. both were intensely painful and i never felt emotionally bad about it, but women around me would.. and i felt like.. should i? i don't feel bad, i feel fine about it, but am i gaslighting myself into feeling this way because im a pick me? NO I JUST DONT FEEL BAD. because i dont have to, some people do, and that is hard and real.
I feel like heart break high is succeeding because it’s being executed in a a very SKINS manner. It works so well and is so up to date. Skins is everything euphoria was aiming to be except it missed the fun lighthearted moments of your teen years that skins had. There’s even so much to say about quinines character being the Cassie of this show. Different experience but the quirky girl thing is there. Overall love the show. Want season 3 faster than they did season 2.
Agreed! Skins was era defining TV and also Heartbreak High is a re-boot and was on AUS/ UK TV in the 90s, some of the characters are rehashed but in different ways to keep up with current trends and culture. It was very cool back then although the themes were probably too mature for me :) (I'm too old too be here ik ik)
they had some hilarious aussie inside jokes this season aas well! I'm aussie and i was sent when they talked about politicians sh!itt1ing themselves in a Maccas in Engadine, referencing the aussie lore that Scott Morrison shat himself in a mcdonalds a few years ago. Loved it
I liked what they did with exploring Cash and Darren's relationship in terms of what it means to be in a relationship with one asexual person and one hypersexual person and how do you/can you compromise or figure out something that works for both people.
it seems obvious to me that they should have an open relationship where darren can have sex with other people as long as they don't have a romantic relationship with anyone but cash? but the show keeps dancing around it for some reason??
@@margaritakmp because the characters didn't want that, they wanted to try to make it work with just them. it happens in real life, not everyone wants an open relationship or immediately jumps to that and this explored those situations
Don't think anyone mentioned this but I am 100% rooting for Darren and Cash because they are the only representation I have of a asexual and allosexual relationship lasting and working. I'm ace and not only is there barely any representation in media but any relationship we have with someone who enjoys sex or thinks of sex more than us has been shown to not work in media. Me and my partner of 10 years work hard everyday to make it work and I think I need to see Darren and Cash make it work too for my own mental health and for the mental health of others lol
i think we did need more spider. we need to talk about this shit, his actions cannot and should not be justified but if we grow apathetic we’re merely feeding the problem. we need to understand where misoginy comes from, not in history but in this very particular time in society. idk, i think this conversation was sooo important, like the dispute between the two teachers and how it got resolved (which i thought was PERFECT). it was my favorite thing this season.
Heartbreak High is truly filling the space that Skins & Skam left behind! The actors and representation are fantastic! As far as Series 3, I agree that this season ended quite well. We reaally do need Malakai & Dusty back for some closure. I'm also really curious to see if that look between Harper and Chook in series 2 means re-visiting the trauma from series 1.
My homeboy Malakai couldn't catch a fcking break.but he's a stronger person than I am Cuz if I saw my ex boyfriend and ex girlfriend get together that would be my 13 rw or my villain origin story 😅
i actually LOVED the themes. It's genuinely so sad to see so many young men go through the red pill pipeline and then come out of it just absolutley being dicks. Those scenes were like difficult to watch, but I thought the coach character was kinda like based off of Andrew T*te. I also loved what they did with Sasha's character too and how she was literally shaming Harper, a victim, in the name of being 'woke' (in quotes because I think Sasha was very performative and not actually woke). I loved the nuanced critique of both red and blue sides I thought it was beautifully written hats off to the writers
one issue i had with this szn was the romance plotlines really interrupting and clouding up every other subplot, like i was so ready 2 see what harper and amerie's relationship would be like now, and see their chemistry on screen bc those actors are perfect for their roles (the whole show is really well cast) but i feel like that was only touched on for the 1st episode, and then only in little bits throughout the szn which was definitely a let down for me. i wanted more for them outside of their romantic connections.
Please give dead boy detectives a chance, it's a supernatural mystery show that just released on Netflix and it's honestly such a fun time with queer characters and strong friendships.
Personally I really hope they explore more of cash and Quinni’s friendship because I really enjoyed that Cash and she got kind of close. He really payed attention to her when Darren and Amerie were in the drama. I also really hope we get an arc of Harper possibly being aromantic, because it would make sense and I would love to see that representation. Also I hope we get more Cash and Darren talking about Cash’s trauma and backstory, and that they stay together bc they are my favorite characters.
its interesting to hear an americans pov, i honestly didint realise it was even on american's radar lol. Also we dont really use nicknames ass bad but if someone does something like when ant tried to cut his.. he would get a nickname from that. the farmcore/farm boy nicknames are pretty similar to what we would say. I would also like to add that the white supremecy in australia is actually insane. I loved how they focused alot of the season on that!
I have a theory that on heartbreak high every season ends with one of the "swords" Harper got on her tarrot reading. Let me explain. So the three of swords is heartbreak, grief and loss (The fortune teller then interprets heartbreak with betrayal so we'll work with that). In the first season we got Amerie's betrayal to Harper, in the second season we got Rowan's loss. Maybe in the third season we get someone's grief, possibly Amerie's. Or Rowan is grief and maybe the 3d season is about loss but I don't think so.
i somewhat agree, maybe his mind was too clouded and he wasn’t aware that there was a fire and that it would kill them. but he did def trap them wrongfully and had somewhat harmful intent.
@@vmaik4s He did too much he needs to be held accountable for his actions I don't wanna see Quinni investigation go unnoticed plus he took her phone and he threatened Malakai sabatoag Amerie in the worst way all this needs to be apart of season 3 glad it's been renewed for a third season saw this on Instagram earlier today.
at least cash and darren ended up with a lil'kiss at the end, idk if that means they are together again for real, but i wouldn't say they ended up broken up
I need season 3 so bad:( This series means so much to me man. I hope we will get to see more about these characters(I just love em all so badly aaa my favs are Cash, Quinni and Ant and I NEED MORE) Loved your video btw❤
i appreciated the fact that the soundtrack featured two different songs from blaming tiger/omega sapien. they aren’t as big as other Korean artist, and they truly deserve attention. this season shined a spotlight on so many underrated artists
I initially didn’t enjoy the first episode as I found the C-Lords to be extremely aggravating, and honestly far too realistic. The bullying in that episode also made it hard to like any of the characters. But it got way better very quickly. Spider has issues, but the point of his actions at the end was that he chose to be better and not because he wanted Missy’s approval. Quinny’s callousness towards her friends was frustrating, especially her saying that they all only look out for themselves when they literally made the entire day about her and got her a replica phone. But I do love her character outside of that moment. Rowan obviously had received mental health help in Dubbo as they said he went there to get better, so no doubt he will get more help once his family realise that he is seeing his brother again. I loved it. Can’t wait for more episodes. Missy is my favourite character of this season. I also liked that Spider’s crush started when he saw her in action, being sporty and aggressive. It reinforces that strong women can definitely be sexy.
These teens are messy af but i'm livvvin for it! It felt so good to finally watch something unserious, i was literally cackling in my room like a maniac 💀 Rumi, i can't thank you enough for recommending this show back in '22, i had such a good time
One thing that infuriates me about this season is how Quinnie found the nude and didn’t immediately ask Amerie “did you send this to someone or did you get hacked” and bird psycho would’ve been discovered so much sooner and so many plot points would be avoided. If they wanted to drag it out they could’ve been like “oh well yknow there’s a database of girls nudes he could’ve sent it to a friend and it ended up on there, anyone could’ve saved it” cause that is a thing at a lot of schools unfortunately
Quinni wouldn't be able to send it to Amerie because Amerie is at the Formals, dancing and having fun, she don't have time to check her phone (and we didn't see anything in the episode of her checking/bringing her phone, which makes sense because she wanna have fun at the formals, not constantly checking her phone)
@@AQutea but she found the picture much earlier in the day and Quinnie’s the type of person who would’ve been determined regardless of the dance like she didn’t even try. I genuinely don’t think it was thought out that thoroughly. I think it would’ve been better and created more tension if she sent her a text about it and she didn’t see it cause we’d all be like “omg check your phone!!” And it would still make sense
Darren needs new friends ......Why Did both Quinni & Amerie leave Darren with Chook ? Chook could've done anything to Darren and I'm upset that Darren didn't get to confront them .
finally a take on spider i agree on. i really feel like people don’t remember how terrible he was and how he didn’t even do much to change. literally first thing missy does that he doesn’t like, he goes on a misogynistic rant 😭😭
I think season 1 was definitely better. I like season 2 but the villains were just straight up silly. Especially the incel teacher dude he went from total sexist pig to straight up felon real quick
Omg finally someone's saying it. Why Spider?! Lol. They did that relationship really well but I wish that came third season, and we had one season of Spider actually doing some work on himself on his own. There is no stopping the Spider girlies. Last season it was Amerie, now it's Missy. Can the guy not grow up without having his hand held.
I quite liked it, and as an Australian it was very accurate to my high school experience (and the experiences of other Aussie’s. Even the arson according to someone I know). My only complaint is I don’t like the psychotics as villains trope, only because psychosis is a heavily stigmatised disorder and using a disorder/disability to explain why someone is villainous has been something the mentally I’ll and disabled communities have been trying to push back against. Like, Rowan being psychotic bothered me, because we definitely need more accurate and positive representation of psychotics and this just wasn’t that. The average psychotic would not be doing something like that, and I don’t like how his crimes were attributed to his disorder, when psychosis is as already stated, a very stigmatised and stereotyped disorder. Like, psychotics aren’t dangerous, I’m friends with a few and they’re fine, so it just bothered me. Everything else was fine, and as an autistic asexual I loved Quinni and Ca$h’s story arcs. I also loved Ca$h just calling out peoples acephobia. Like, Dusty honestly sucked for trying to say Ca$h’s identity was selfish, like you’re not going to call a gay person selfish for not returning the feelings of women, so why is it selfish to be asexual? Quinni’s arc, loved it. It is so annoying to have people tell youthar the world can’t follow by your rules when you’ve spent your entire life following everyone else’s rules when they refuse to even actually explain them to you. Like, why is this rude? To me this seems fine? But yeah, loved it mostly, just that one complaint about the villain being psychotic.
Yeah the only movie/tv show that portrayed a realistic normal person with a psychotic disorder is 'words on bathroom walls' every other character with a psychotic disorder is a villain or criminal e.g Joe from you.
This season was so good so many real topics and super tragic characters(looking at you Rowan) but man I don’t even realize I was tearing up at the end of it
I really like spider and Missy, but I went rewatch season 1 to remember his shity actions, so that the writers don't trick me with his redemption arc lol He still hasn't done anything good besides liking Missy, which he can't really take credit for lol
I still don’t like the trope of using a WOC to rebrand an Incel. Missy and Spider didn’t give enemies to lovers for me. They could’ve put her with someone less harmful in my opinion. Sure he’s a teen and he can change but I just didn’t like the ship, nor do I like when people ship him with WOC like Amerie.
No it was super weird that they made it a WOC job to fix the white man with mommy issues and a complex. I really wish instead after they had hooked up she called him out and then basically told him that she won’t fix him and that he needs to figure it out for himself. I wish they had shown him seeing how bad the rhetoric he spews can affect the girls around him.
@@giamarie3761yes because I understand he is a victim of his upbringing and the writers made sure that the audience understood that but they didn’t bother showing the victims of Spencer’s words. It’s like they flipped the script for him this season. I’m all for fleshing out antagonists but even in this season he was acting the same incel well without regard. They made Spencer double down on it when he was with Missy and immediately regress when she rejected him like he did with Amerie and I wasn’t surprised. People ship them because they love enemies to lovers but in this case it just seems harmful. I would like to see how The people Spencer has been targeting for years react to his sudden change.
I think his attraction towards Missy contributed to his reflection in a realistic way. When you really want someone you’re willing to work on yourself and change. The white guy who educates himself for a poc woman trope is tired yes, but I feel Spider’s arc has much more to it than that. Even in season 1 it’s apparent that he doesn’t always agree with his words or actions but stands on them to maintain some false sense of self that he believes asserts his masculinity. So yea, I think it’s unfair to reduce his arc to a shitty trope
@@rampanthaterbut regardless of him not necessarily believing the hate he spews, he is still saying it, impacting the people it’s targeting to (Darren, Sasha, Amerie, Harper) and more. And that loud and empty apology he said to the crowd of people isn’t anything and will continue remain so in my opinion unless he personally apologises as well as realises the damage he’s done. Maybe because I’m a WOC so his arc just means less to me, as well as the fact I’ve been around people like him, so I don’t buy and the writers shouldn’t of written in in this damaging way. Hope they fix up next season and not double down on his actions and let him feel the consequences of what he made the targets of his “faux” hate feel.
I got so so sooooo obsessed with Malakai from litterally the beginning and I litterally told myself to raise my standards and search myself a boyfriend like him. yk the Malakai in the first episodes?? Yup thats gon be my man AND ALSO I GOT SO PISSED OF THE FACT HE JUST RACKED OFF like damn that broke me man come back 😔
I love how generally stupid the teens are behaving.. I feel like in a lot of teen shows 16years old look and behave like mid 20s which is so unrealistic.. and HBH giving us szenes where everyone just takes mushrooms and then doing really messy and weird stuff is so refreshinh to see.. like yes teens are mostly really stupid.. though I didnt lile all the Romantic Drama.. would have loved more focus on the friendships..
I love Qunni and I hope we get to see her figure herself out next season. Spider is annoying, though it was good that they started to give him layers this season so he wasn’t as one dimensional as S1. My pet peeve is that the actor looks like he’s 30. I think he’s in his late 20s, but he looks 30 to me. Not even close to a teenager.
Loved your analysis 👏 the only think I would’ve wanted to include was the stuff about the puritans . Even though Zoe was very annoying in the first half of the season I’m glad that we got to understand somewhat of what her thought process is and why she goes so hard . In fact , the concept of having the puritans contrasts well with the sexual nature of most of the casts - giving voices to teens who don’t want to be a part of the unruliness that hormones can bring. But the camp scene did tie it all together through depicting that she too gets urges but wants to believe that her way is the best way like the rest of them. Eventually I learned to appreciate the group especially when they accepted Darren. The whole season truly illustrates the colorful, chaos that can be coming of age and maturing into what could be through societal peer pressure. And I also want to bud in to say I dont think spyder deserves to say he’s completely changed after trying to get with missy. But I do think it’s important to talk about what goes through a persons head to allow them to do a things to the degree that it’s done. The inclusion of the cumlords really helped show how important a male figure can be in a man’s life - especially in spyder’s case. And I really feel like spyder turning on coach really helped his development in understanding his mom’s frustration by a fraction and fully being able to make a choice in the type of person he wants to move forward as. Ultimately I don’t think spyder and missy fit each other in the best ways that they are now but it depends on how willing they are to accept each other while learning to embrace the best version of themselves.
i was feeling great about the season until I got to the plot twist, it completely lost me, I really didn't like the final part, the events seemed really random to me and not fitting at all, it was really frustrating
im sorry but everytime voss was on the screen i just fast forwarded because i know whatever he is saying has no importance in the main story. it was sooooo irritating to watch him bcs i see that kind of men irl all the freaking time. so i didnt want to watch him on screen too. yet i do understand the importance of the character in the grand scheme of things edit: i think the makers truly understand what the audience want and just want to deliver that. that is why even season 1 finale got a proper ending; where if netflix was to cancel it, the fans wont be left hanging on some unresolved suspence. that is why they made the season 2 finale resolved that if netflix doesnt announce another season fans are not going to hold on to that. and i really appreciate that from the makers
I’ve been rewatching Season 2 for three days. The relationships, the sex, the character developments, Quinni’s autistic expression, the language is more “Aussie”, everything about it was amazing. I loved Missy & Spider’s relationship unfold. I love Ca$h’s Nan in this season… Superior character addition. Worst character was that freaking coach (i actually get the ick when he’s on screen) I’m genuinely obsessed with this season. Rowan is hot…. but sooooo messy & I still dont know how I feel about him and I’ve watched this 3x S1 was rewatchable, but Harper’s story line is just a tad too much for me. S1 doesn’t put me on an emotional roller coaster like S2 does. Finally, I have TONS of thoughts. But I love that every character explored their friendship with others. They weren’t attached to the hip of 1-2 characters. We got to see everyone’s friendships with one another.
I hate seeing Darren get so much hate this season!! I think the writers really did them dirty making them the 'bad guy' in both Quinni and Ca$h's storylines while not unpacking Darren's own difficulties. Reminds me so much of how people dragged S2 Jules for struggling with Rue's addiction. I really think they need a therapy scene with Darren like in Jules' Special episode to explore their struggles with gender bc the majority of the audience clearly don't understand the complex relationship between hypersexuality-self worth-queerness they just see it as Darren being selfish.
What? That’s wild, I really don’t see anything wrong with Darren distancing themselves from Ca$h when as far as they know, Ca$h was an accomplice in a near gang-r*pe. And as for Quinni, Darren has been more accommodating than most people but they’re not a mind reader. Especially when Quinni has learned to mask her own needs even around her best friend.
Since I haven't seen a single comment about this, was I the only person who was gagged 😰 when I found out they was no brother and this whole time he was having schizophrenic episodes because that made his character 10× scarier to me
I definitely love this season of heartbreak high more than season one because they’re were a lot of storylines and plot. I still love season one but I think season two is a masterpiece of work. I hope malakai returns and I hope that Amerie and him could work things out. Also that letter he wrote for her at the end I hope Amerie knows about that too. I love the actor who plays Darren like he should be in more shows and movies.
the way i figured out rowan was bird psycho was so dumb there was a moment malaki was wearing a red bird sweater and then rown suddenly appeared and i was like omg
I think it was interesting that spider got angry at having to draw his feelings instead of punching something lol 'cause people need different tools But that led to the cumprimento lords which was pathetic
Quinni and Missy were A tier characters. Queens
"I am just hot and talking"
One of the plot threads I haven't heard enough people talk about is the relationship between Harper and the principal, like her teaching Harper how to drive and just generally keeping a close eye on her, I thought it was soooo sweet and underrated!
yeah it was so cute I was so happy for harper
Devi is waaaaay more self destructive than Amerie. A lot of Devi's problems were 1000% her fault but Amerie's problems, while partially because of her, were more other people screwing with her
Yeah Amerie finds herself in situations but she does have some imput, like her friends suppirt those decisions (her and Quinni digging up the notes the cxmlords buried) that got he caught but she always gets the blame. Whereas Devi does her things and her friends find out later
THIS
exactly!
who is devi
@@brontehely2916 Devi is from the show ‘Never Have I Ever’ in the video it’s mentioned. Whether they think Devi from that show is more or less self destructive than Amerie from Heartbreak High
Missy was ICONIC this season
I low-key loved that scene where she stood up and walked straight out of the hall, when spider was doing his public speech and started verbally mansplaining about how women are awful to men in present society (or something similar)
@@yuenmienyujustice for spencer
@@yuenmienyu tbf i feel as if since the breakup happened right b4 he rlly hurt and pissed wihch may have led to that speech bc i dont think even when he initially set out his speech was supposed to go that far and it was kinda obvious he was targeting Missy
@@paintingdreams290 yeah but that's not an excuse? just cuz a girl broke up with you doesn't mean you get to make a whole misogynistic speech. tho im glad that in the end he got some actual development and improved on himself 😋
@@ronilicious i agree i'm just also pointing out that it seems a lot more clear that Spider was saying what he did more out of spite than actually believing in it
unfortunately i absolutely loved spider and missy’s relationship! i was giggling and kicking my feet ugh
Me too I was upset at the beginning but couldn’t help but like it in the end 😂
No literally same @@RambleMaven
i was too... i rewatched all their scenes and it was so touching even though i didnt think about spider twice in the first season. and missy is just an immaculate character.
Same!!! I was unsure at first but when he started trying to make positive change, in the best way, I was obsessed!
saame and like i didn't want to like spider and i didn't want to like him and missy together but i dooo 😭😭😭
Darren and Cash are always the best part of this show for me. Their acting? The best on the show. Their chemistry? Unmatched.
absolutely, they break my heart and repair it so many times
I kinda agree but it was very unstable and explosive at times, it makes sense they're young and discovering themselves
I Shipped them so hard and didnt wanna see any one of them crying or angry, I literally thought cash was gonna get *unalived* on many occasions or that Darren was gonna cheat on him and they could never recover from that ..
literallyyyy they can make or break the show tbh
FRRR i fell in love with them in season one and got even more invested in season two because the plot surrounding their relationship was SO GOOD i love them so much😭😭
YES! They have such a strong chemistry
the man Ca$h is dancing with in the park is an actual Sydney icon, Danny Lim.
If you’re not from Sydney you just won’t understand how iconic this season was!
I was wondering how he knew his name!!
@@dajablast haha Danny is an absolute legend!
my friend met him the day after the season came out and she called me screaming
Danny was a former politician as well, and refused payment whilst he was in office. He was definitely not your typical politician.
I really like Spider’s development this season. The whole point of showcasing his mom is to see what sort of environment he was raised in. His mom isn’t just a terrible person, she wholeheartedly believes her son will do something dangerous to a woman. She believes he will become a criminal based on a “prophetic” dream she had when he entered puberty. That means he’s probably been hearing her say that she has no faith in him being a good person since he was as young as 12 probably. So Spider, whose mom doesn’t believe in him simply played into what other expect him to be: abrasive, toxic,and annoying. Him being with Missy not only gave him someone who believes he can be more than that but also gave him someone who’ll stay. Not saying it excuses his actions, but it gives him an opening towards redemption and possibly growing out of the immature phase. Another thing about Spider is the demisexual representation he exhibits. Even back in season 1, he’s shown to not feel sexual attraction like others do. When he was hooking up with Amerie, he could not get aroused. His note saying”betrayed by my on d*ck” shows how he’s struggling with the inability to feel attraction like others. Missy is the only partner we know of who wasn’t put off by his inability to not get it up which eventually led to him feeling comfortable in her presence and getting aroused. Spider is an ass*ole but he’s not a criminal/villain as evident in when he realizes how incredibly unhinged Voss was after hearing the entire story of why Voss has this hatred towards society. I think he can change. With some therapy and maybe putting boundaries between him and his mom.
yea i think his mom is a bioessestialist? I think is what it's called? where women genuinely believe that men are biologically bad somehow like they are destined to be bad people just because they are men
Agreed. I love the way you put this 👏🏽
SAME. I think Spider's arc this season was such important representation and I'm glad he got all that screen time. it was a beautifully written arc.
I completely agree! I think his arc was such a positive representation of how men can change if they want to and how the red pill pipeline can just lead to more anger and hurt and loneliness than anything as I feel like he saw how his future could be when he heard the full story of Voss’ dad and realised he didn’t want to end up like him and he made the choice to be better for himself which is so so important! I personally was a huge fan of his arc
yesss and theres so many guys out there like him. I think villainizing these ppl will make things worse. I hate how we just cancel ppl now and dont give them the chance to be better. especially when theyre young like this. Don't get me wrong, he has a long way to go but these situations arent so black and white as the media would like to portray
This was one of the first shows in recent times that had an actual love triangle. Like all the three were getting it on for all of them even though one of them is unhinged.
And since it's been long enough I always was rooting for spider and ant. They handled their character arcs so well🤌
Yesss I loved that we got to see a bit more of ant
Yes! I was rooting for the actual love triangle, and loved it when it happened! But how Rowan pick Amerie over Malakai? Like no offense to Amerie, but Malakai…😍😍
@@00pium_kingvampstanHow did Amerie AND Malakai both pick that nitty Rowan over eachother
@@Sam20309 actually, cook! 🔥🔥🔥
ant is straight and so is spider so that’s why they put them with missy and Harper 😭😭
I think spider is somewhat an important character, cause people like that are wayy too common in this generation. I don't think we needed that much focus on his 'development' tho.
And Honestly the entire cvmlord situation, despite being annoying and dumb, shit like that is way too realistic😭
agreed! spiders character and story arch is communicating and pointing out something HUGE happening in human society today. these boys just need partners to nurture them basically. its not just a coincidence that most these alpha debate lord grifter types are.... single.....
@@meggem2581 They do not need partners to nurture them. Getting into a relationship is not the solution. People need to be stable before getting into a relationship. These kids need parental guidance, and we see that this season. The guys are given bad advice from the gym coach, and this stems from his dad. If his dad had accepted his faults and took accountability, his son would have turned out a better person, but instead he’s immature and ignorant. And Spider starts to realize this, but he shouldn’t depend on a relationship to become a better person.
@@Janet67498yea even Missy pointed that out, she said something like don’t change for me do it for urself. or some shit like that
i think the focus was needed. this show is watched by mainly teenagers and by depicting a guy going from essentially an incel to redemption creates the chance for other guys to learn from the show.
sadly, there isnt an absence of men to fill the void andrew tate's content left and unless someone else gets to them first and shows them an example of how men should and can act, more will just fall down that pipeline.
i get what you mean about it being realistic which can make it kinda hard to watch - from a woman's perspective, seeing the stats on this sort of ideology growing is terrifying and people like using media as a form of escapism from these issues. but i think the show takes its role as a piece of influential media seriously and realises that whilst talking about this stuff makes it less fun, it does mean it has a bigger impact.
@@Janet67498 i agree, i guess i should specify, guys like this need to be nurtured in some way. parents, therapists, mentors. because without being nurtured i think it is 100x harder to become a better person. support helps people actually get better.
I think that the relationship between Cash and Chook was done amazingly. The fact that a character as vile as chook had a genuine moment of vulnerability is wild and incredible.
Yes! Chook is still scary, violent, a professional crim, but the scene at the flat where he's telling Cash to come back, and then the whole scene on the boat -- Chook uses Cash, but he also cares about him, and they went through being in group home together, labelled as "child of addict" together 💔 I'm glad Cash is getting free of Chook, and I would not want to meet Chook irl, but that scene was so powerful, I could see the frightened kid that Chook once was
I was just scared that at some point this show will turn its pitch and someone’s gonna kill someone or at least be violent, especially with the ‘I love you dareen’ text not delivering.. I was shit scared. The pacing the music the lighting design,the art d was spot on, it did keep me on my toes and I was glad the air was cleared between chock and ca$h and they had their moment.
Devie is more self-destructive, for sure.
Amerie does shoot herself in the foot at times. But her issues with Malakai were her being gaslighted by him more than anything. And I am so glad they had her call it out, because the gaslighting irked me. XD
I think you missed the mark in describing Quinnie’s character arch. The point was Darren and company were not acknowledging the amount of work and effort it takes for her to mask and Yes she didn’t like that she was being to feel distance from her friends she was had a point. It was valid for her to call Darren out for basically saying she wasn’t putting in enough effort when her whole life has been spent trying to accommodate to others and people don’t do it to the same extent for her. Also I feel like Darren and Ca$h kissing at the end in addition to him coming to the dance to win Darren back over was enough evidence to imply that they may be back together. If anything it’s pretty ambiguous and it don’t think it was obvious that they were broken up.
no i definitely agree about quinni’s arch. darren and all of her other friends were treating her like shit on her birthday. they said they planned out this whole day for her but nobody (but cash) paid any ounce of attention to her. i also think it’s sort of weird for them to be her friends, but not take into account her autism and how it affects her when planning things. i feel like most friends would try to accommodate to that, especially on her birthday.
i was very confused by Darren's behavior towards Quinni this season because last season they were always very accommodating with her and they made sure to pay attention to what she needed. it was to the point where they did a much better job than i did with my autistic sibling (i know Quinni and Darren aren't siblings but my sibling and i are also friends) and i lived with my autistic sibling for 18 years. the sudden change of heart didn't make much sense to me. the only way that I could maybe see this working but I feel like it should have been led up two more is that Darren may have felt a bit burnt out from accommodating for Quinni but if so, why did that just come out of nowhere? it's something ppl deal with sometimes and if they were feeling that way and had an arc about it that would have been nice to see. Quinni seemed like she might have been burnt out too. both of those things are valid and maybe they can do things to address that in the future?
Quinni ate them up this whole season 😭
@@jordyn2888 i thought they were trying to accommodate though? especially darren, ppl were suggesting things and they were like "no way she wouldn't like that" in the end they planned a zoo with frog costumes which she does love, i'm pretty sure she has a pet frog, but she could not enjoy it bc of all the change that was happening in her frirends' lives and not being able to contribute with the bird psycho investigation. i don't think the celebration itself was bad although i do think that they did not pay much attention to her throughout the day
@@allurajane4979 im not sure if i would say that taking her interests into consideration is necessarily being accommodating. like yeah planning something for your friend, you want to consider what they would enjoy and stuff. but i was more referring to them springing the surprise on her, running into the zoo and leaving her by herself, not checking on her to see when she wanted to move on to the next exhibit (leaving her by herself again, not giving her time to take everything in), interrupting her meditation so she could calm down type things
Heartbreak high is what euphoria SHOULD have been and COULD have been if Sam Levinson hired a writing room like a normal producer. My lord he really ran the show into the depths of hell and those actors deserve so much better. HBH shows us that it is possible to tie up loose ends!!! CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?!?!
Preach!!!❤❤❤
No thanks. Euphoria is great as it already is and heart break high is also great as it is. Euphoria is dark, edgy and beautiful. Heart Break High is light-hearted, funny, relatable and intentionally cringe in a good way
And have actual good endings
Nah 'cause I balled my eyes out when I saw malakai's letter get burned. Honestly it was my mum's fault, I was watching it in the same room as her and she was watching it kind of and said "aw, amerie won't get his letter".
I DIDN'T NEED THAT
Your mom is low-key a menace and honestly same I wanted it to be like a euphoria situation where I'm left with some hope 💔
I finished it last night and I was an incoherent mess after seeing that - my boyfriend was just like "whatttt"
The only thing on Spider is I wish they addressed his situation with Amerie regarding last season because I don’t understand how the entirety of the season it was showing flashbacks between them up until the last episode only for it not to even be talked about in season 2. I really thought the “forget Amerie” note was him!
I think the forget amerie note was Rowan since he was writing it in his note book in one of the later episodes
@@cloudymind6511 Ik it was Rowan, it just would’ve made more sense if it was Spider since he obviously had feelings for Amerie for so long and then to drop it and for him to get with Missy, its like that whole storyline was trashed!
Feelings change though teenagers are like that they lose interest really easily and gain interest in others. Also, it’s not like they had some deep connection.
I’ve watched this season 3x so I caught it
@@idk-uv7mt Exactly, not everything has to be spelt out for the audience. They tried hooking up, it was weird and they moved on from it. Why would they need to address it? 😂
I liked that spider didn't change that fast, this kind of thing takes time
For season 3 I’m gonna need Dusty and Malakai back at Hartley High, mention of Rowan getting medical assistance (don’t need him back,sorry not sorry), more about Harper and how she’s dealing with being emancipated from her father and some information about her mother and her whereabouts (if she’s alive).
Would love to know why it seems like Darren’s mother and Darren have an estranged relationship, it can’t be just because the mother has a shitty boyfriend, why would she choose a boyfriend over her own child?
And I’d like Malakai to have more friends, all the happiness in the world for Quinni, Cash, Amerie, Harper and Darren because they deserve it
why should dusty’s boring ahh come back, he contributes nothing 😭😭
Does everyone just forget how awful Harper actually is? She took full advantage of malakai when he was in too vulnerable a state to consent to anything...whilst simultaneously coercing Dusty into a threesome he wasn't comfortable with...
Now contrast that with Ant refusing to take advantage of her this season because she was in a vulnerable state.
No amount of trauma excuses her using other people for her pleasure, SAing Malakai and shaming Dusty in front of the whole school when he started becoming uncomfortable with their actions.. She's just as bad as Chook if not worse.
@@realestsienna I was hoping for some character development with his character because in season 1 they just leaned too much into him being good looking and it became his personality, and I always thought he was nice he just surrounded himself with people like Spider who isn’t the best influence and him being there for Darren proved that for me
@@darrenmills9832 I’m not a Harper apologist but Dusty wasn’t coerced into the threesome he was a willing participant, all he said was that it made him uncomfortable how into it Harper was I’m assuming he meant he didn’t like sharing his girlfriend with somebody else. I agree with you though she should have never initiated anything sexual with Malakai he needed a friend in that moment not sex, publicly embarrassing Dusty was uncalled for.
@ambershoba I kinda got the impression that Dusty is straight and he did it purely for her benefit.. it just doesn't seem like hes sexually attracted to men at any other point in the show. I could be wrong but he's never established as bisexual, unlike other characters.
The C-Lord club was unserious to me, also I think Spider had some character development, but for him to switch up after being rejected made me side eye him. And Rowan was scary omg.
He tried to change for missy and missy was treating him like a ecret side chick
@@hafsaahmed7716 True, she was influenced by Sasha, but he switched up after being rejected. I get that he’s hurt, but he needs to change for himself.
so real like im so sick of ppl defending spider for immediately switching up like his feelings were valid cuz he got rejected but the way he dealed with them - absolutely not. like he can be sad and feel all his feelings but that doesn't justify misogyny like he needs to change for himself at the end of the day.
Yeah, that's fair. I guess what the writers are trying to say is that he's just starting to become better and it's a process? That being said, it would've been such a great opportunity for him to stop running as school captain, with or without Missy. It would've been very solid proof that his will to grow was not just tied to her.
I really like ants developed becoming not just spiders sidekick but an actual character
Yesss!!
I absolutely loved the Principal in this season, especially when she turns the hose on Chook.
Also the way you pronounced Chook was rather funny
honestly ngl season 2 did NOT disappoint spider and missy together are making me go crazy i was screaming and giggling everytime they came up together
The fashion was top tier😭😭😭
Harper’s outfit ateee hard as much as I hated her in the first season I also appreciate the fact that we got to know a different side of her and I actually don’t dislike her anymore
why did you hate her?
@@hicutiepatootieshe was lowkey annoying season one my biggest issue was not telling your “bestfriend” what was going on or even an inkling
@@stancinatti8198 ah yeah that's valid, personally I kinda got where harper was coming from considering she'd just been through an extremely traumatic event and definitely wouldn't be able to think perspectively enough to like instantly realise it wasn't ameries fault, cause from her pov, her best friend just locked her out of the house for no reason when harper needed her the most, but yeah at the same time the way she treated amerie was quite terrible so I get why you'd dislike her
@@hicutiepatootie oh don’t now she was dope this season but yea even a “I’m not ready to talk about it rn” would’ve been sufficient but I guess you can’t except everybody to be as emotionally as intelligent as you or the next person
@@stancinatti8198 fair enough
I liked what they did with Rowan. It was an opportunity for Amerie to stop and reflect on how her actions have affected others, and to take a different direction. I don't think they were giving Rowan a free pass. I think they were showing that he was a fucked up human and not a monster who needed to die. They were showing that Amerie could do the right thing as a human and not always just react to things. It was touching even though yeah you realize you are empathizing with someone who did horrifying things.
He was fucked up for sure I love how tragic his story was
YES THANK YOU!!!! some people are too quick to say a character deserves death. i hated rowan but that final scene with his brother brought me to tears.
@@misterpseudonymthe sad part is, this is where years of media have left us. Think of most any film, tv thriller, etc: the answer with the "bad" one is almost always exterminating, rarely curiosity about how we got here and if there are any ways to prevent mental health leading others to these places. We see monsters everywhere rather than humans, and to me this is one factor behind so much of the craziness (and racism and bias and transphobia ...) that is tearing the world apart
I'm so glad you also appreciated Malakai's sweater collection this season, I'm obsessed!!
For me, I think that with Spencer/spider. He did get character development and only reason I say this is because I have seen people say that he didn’t it was just for Missy, but I honestly don’t think so because I think he changed because of her. The creepy coach guy whatever was talking you could see on spiders face that he didn’t really like the stuff he was saying he was like like hold on that’s kind of weird. I feel like that did show that he was understanding where other people were coming from and be like oh wait I am kind of the problem.
I agree
Yeah I think that’s a good point, Missy showed him that he needed to change and in the end he said he also needed change for himself. I also really liked him and Missy together and liked how they showed why he is the way is
Missy planted the questions on his head. But i agree the change was most def bc he realized the coach was quite literally what he fears he will become because of his mom. It was a wakeup call for him, not Missy.
@@valentinafangirling yeah I think that’s also a fair point, he realized that the male teacher was not who he wanted to become and was starting to fear him as a person
I wish we got more of a story on spider Ngl
Darren and Cash are so important to me!! I was in a relationship with someone who is asexual (I’m DEFINITELY not) and seeing Darren and Cash’s relationship made us both feel so very seen and helped me understand I didn’t do anything wrong. I love love love heartbreak high always.
i absolutely loved how much fun they seemed to have while filming! that cash moment when he was on m3th and dancing his a$$ off was so funny😭
Pretty sure it was pingers
heartbreak high is def the best current gen z representation in terms of tv shows. its a 10/10 fr!!!
Yea woke pc bs
OMG YES the abortion representation...literally makes me want to cry! i have had 2 abortions (got pregnant once on the pill and once with a mirena BE SAFE OUT THERE YALL) and both times i thought they were going to be a ~breeze~ because of how they are represented in media... spoiler THEY WERE NOT S BREEZE. both were intensely painful and i never felt emotionally bad about it, but women around me would.. and i felt like.. should i? i don't feel bad, i feel fine about it, but am i gaslighting myself into feeling this way because im a pick me? NO I JUST DONT FEEL BAD. because i dont have to, some people do, and that is hard and real.
2? Damn. Sorry it reminded of the news audio about liberals on tik tok
@@lbproduccions1397this is messed up be it reminded me of double homicide 😭
@@stancinatti8198 lol
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@@stancinatti8198..
I feel like heart break high is succeeding because it’s being executed in a a very SKINS manner. It works so well and is so up to date. Skins is everything euphoria was aiming to be except it missed the fun lighthearted moments of your teen years that skins had. There’s even so much to say about quinines character being the Cassie of this show. Different experience but the quirky girl thing is there. Overall love the show. Want season 3 faster than they did season 2.
Agreed! Skins was era defining TV and also Heartbreak High is a re-boot and was on AUS/ UK TV in the 90s, some of the characters are rehashed but in different ways to keep up with current trends and culture. It was very cool back then although the themes were probably too mature for me :) (I'm too old too be here ik ik)
Skims is so mid
yessss when he was saying it was like euphoria mixed with sex education, i was like skins!! the comparison you're looking for is skins!!!!!!!!!!
they had some hilarious aussie inside jokes this season aas well! I'm aussie and i was sent when they talked about politicians sh!itt1ing themselves in a Maccas in Engadine, referencing the aussie lore that Scott Morrison shat himself in a mcdonalds a few years ago. Loved it
I lost my shit when that happened
I liked what they did with exploring Cash and Darren's relationship in terms of what it means to be in a relationship with one asexual person and one hypersexual person and how do you/can you compromise or figure out something that works for both people.
it seems obvious to me that they should have an open relationship where darren can have sex with other people as long as they don't have a romantic relationship with anyone but cash? but the show keeps dancing around it for some reason??
@@margaritakmp because the characters didn't want that, they wanted to try to make it work with just them. it happens in real life, not everyone wants an open relationship or immediately jumps to that and this explored those situations
Don't think anyone mentioned this but I am 100% rooting for Darren and Cash because they are the only representation I have of a asexual and allosexual relationship lasting and working. I'm ace and not only is there barely any representation in media but any relationship we have with someone who enjoys sex or thinks of sex more than us has been shown to not work in media. Me and my partner of 10 years work hard everyday to make it work and I think I need to see Darren and Cash make it work too for my own mental health and for the mental health of others lol
the camping episode was iconic
Looved it, so funny
i think we did need more spider. we need to talk about this shit, his actions cannot and should not be justified but if we grow apathetic we’re merely feeding the problem. we need to understand where misoginy comes from, not in history but in this very particular time in society. idk, i think this conversation was sooo important, like the dispute between the two teachers and how it got resolved (which i thought was PERFECT). it was my favorite thing this season.
Yeah, exactly! He's an asshole, but telling him that he'll never be anything else doesn't help.
@@crumbsintopebbles agreed!
Heartbreak High is truly filling the space that Skins & Skam left behind! The actors and representation are fantastic! As far as Series 3, I agree that this season ended quite well. We reaally do need Malakai & Dusty back for some closure. I'm also really curious to see if that look between Harper and Chook in series 2 means re-visiting the trauma from series 1.
ugh loved skam
My homeboy Malakai couldn't catch a fcking break.but he's a stronger person than I am Cuz if I saw my ex boyfriend and ex girlfriend get together that would be my 13 rw or my villain origin story 😅
Okay but that man cheated on his girlfriend in a threesome with her best friend so he shouldn’t talk lol
Omg you missed out the whole puritan group. It was so unhinged.
bruh idk even understand why they inserted themselves into the SLT class. Like what possessed them?
@@carrieannelittle3344RIGHTT not like they’re even using the info..😢
SPIDER WAS ON SOME DIFFERENT CRACK THIS SEASON 🤭🤭
i actually LOVED the themes. It's genuinely so sad to see so many young men go through the red pill pipeline and then come out of it just absolutley being dicks. Those scenes were like difficult to watch, but I thought the coach character was kinda like based off of Andrew T*te.
I also loved what they did with Sasha's character too and how she was literally shaming Harper, a victim, in the name of being 'woke' (in quotes because I think Sasha was very performative and not actually woke).
I loved the nuanced critique of both red and blue sides I thought it was beautifully written hats off to the writers
the second the PE teacher used "woke" as an insult, I lost trust in his character
one issue i had with this szn was the romance plotlines really interrupting and clouding up every other subplot, like i was so ready 2 see what harper and amerie's relationship would be like now, and see their chemistry on screen bc those actors are perfect for their roles (the whole show is really well cast) but i feel like that was only touched on for the 1st episode, and then only in little bits throughout the szn which was definitely a let down for me. i wanted more for them outside of their romantic connections.
Please give dead boy detectives a chance, it's a supernatural mystery show that just released on Netflix and it's honestly such a fun time with queer characters and strong friendships.
YES PLEASE!!!! I’M OBSESSED WITH HOW THEY WROTE THEIR QUEER CHARACTERS 💕💕
REAL HAVENT EVEN FINISHED IT YET BUT I LOVE IT SM
Yes! The Queer writing was so good!
'little dance in the park with a random man' 😭 the aussie in me is dying, sir he is hakking with icon Danny Lim
Personally I really hope they explore more of cash and Quinni’s friendship because I really enjoyed that Cash and she got kind of close. He really payed attention to her when Darren and Amerie were in the drama. I also really hope we get an arc of Harper possibly being aromantic, because it would make sense and I would love to see that representation. Also I hope we get more Cash and Darren talking about Cash’s trauma and backstory, and that they stay together bc they are my favorite characters.
yeah that was sweet. cash has a soft spot.
devi would tear ameri down, they’d be enemies for sure but then have some season finale moment where they’re cool again
Dusty wasn’t kicked out. I think he chose to transfer… nevermind he was kicked out for the rumor he made.
The score was amazing! Every single second a new song played that i didnt song, i had to add it to my playlist
It was pnenomenal, especially when Darren had his meth dance in the park😂
10:13 my family friend Beth was the head of the hair and makeup department this season! she did amazing! 💗
Omg I loved the makeup looks so much this season! Can you please tell her that a random person on the internet is super duper inspired by her work?
@@chaotic_art_nerd that’s so sweet haha 🫶
@@chaotic_art_nerd I SECOND THIS!!!! she did amazing with the styles, whole season i was just seeing their looks impulsively wanting to rock a mullet
its interesting to hear an americans pov, i honestly didint realise it was even on american's radar lol. Also we dont really use nicknames ass bad but if someone does something like when ant tried to cut his.. he would get a nickname from that. the farmcore/farm boy nicknames are pretty similar to what we would say. I would also like to add that the white supremecy in australia is actually insane. I loved how they focused alot of the season on that!
I have a theory that on heartbreak high every season ends with one of the "swords" Harper got on her tarrot reading. Let me explain. So the three of swords is heartbreak, grief and loss (The fortune teller then interprets heartbreak with betrayal so we'll work with that). In the first season we got Amerie's betrayal to Harper, in the second season we got Rowan's loss. Maybe in the third season we get someone's grief, possibly Amerie's. Or Rowan is grief and maybe the 3d season is about loss but I don't think so.
"So, I'ma kill it, uhg"😭😭😭PLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!
Did Rowan try to kill amerie and harper tho? I thought he just sort of had a breakdown making him unable to do the right things at that moment
i somewhat agree, maybe his mind was too clouded and he wasn’t aware that there was a fire and that it would kill them. but he did def trap them wrongfully and had somewhat harmful intent.
@@vmaik4s He did too much he needs to be held accountable for his actions I don't wanna see Quinni investigation go unnoticed plus he took her phone and he threatened Malakai sabatoag Amerie in the worst way all this needs to be apart of season 3 glad it's been renewed for a third season saw this on Instagram earlier today.
at least cash and darren ended up with a lil'kiss at the end, idk if that means they are together again for real, but i wouldn't say they ended up broken up
I need season 3 so bad:( This series means so much to me man. I hope we will get to see more about these characters(I just love em all so badly aaa my favs are Cash, Quinni and Ant and I NEED MORE) Loved your video btw❤
i appreciated the fact that the soundtrack featured two different songs from blaming tiger/omega sapien. they aren’t as big as other Korean artist, and they truly deserve attention. this season shined a spotlight on so many underrated artists
I initially didn’t enjoy the first episode as I found the C-Lords to be extremely aggravating, and honestly far too realistic. The bullying in that episode also made it hard to like any of the characters. But it got way better very quickly.
Spider has issues, but the point of his actions at the end was that he chose to be better and not because he wanted Missy’s approval.
Quinny’s callousness towards her friends was frustrating, especially her saying that they all only look out for themselves when they literally made the entire day about her and got her a replica phone. But I do love her character outside of that moment.
Rowan obviously had received mental health help in Dubbo as they said he went there to get better, so no doubt he will get more help once his family realise that he is seeing his brother again.
I loved it. Can’t wait for more episodes.
Missy is my favourite character of this season. I also liked that Spider’s crush started when he saw her in action, being sporty and aggressive. It reinforces that strong women can definitely be sexy.
yes i really liked the fashion this season, esp malakai i loved his style he looked so good
something that’s not talked about enough I really love their principal and how much she cares
These teens are messy af but i'm livvvin for it! It felt so good to finally watch something unserious, i was literally cackling in my room like a maniac 💀 Rumi, i can't thank you enough for recommending this show back in '22, i had such a good time
Amerie really made me feel so many different types of emotions lol
anyways, loved this season regarding
that random man in the park with Ca$h is a sydney icon! he's super cool
One thing that infuriates me about this season is how Quinnie found the nude and didn’t immediately ask Amerie “did you send this to someone or did you get hacked” and bird psycho would’ve been discovered so much sooner and so many plot points would be avoided. If they wanted to drag it out they could’ve been like “oh well yknow there’s a database of girls nudes he could’ve sent it to a friend and it ended up on there, anyone could’ve saved it” cause that is a thing at a lot of schools unfortunately
Quinni wouldn't be able to send it to Amerie because Amerie is at the Formals, dancing and having fun, she don't have time to check her phone (and we didn't see anything in the episode of her checking/bringing her phone, which makes sense because she wanna have fun at the formals, not constantly checking her phone)
@@AQutea but she found the picture much earlier in the day and Quinnie’s the type of person who would’ve been determined regardless of the dance like she didn’t even try. I genuinely don’t think it was thought out that thoroughly. I think it would’ve been better and created more tension if she sent her a text about it and she didn’t see it cause we’d all be like “omg check your phone!!” And it would still make sense
I quite literally just finished season 2 like 10 minutes ago... this video could have not dropped at a better time 💀
i honestly dont get how ppl find spider attractive. like the actor himself is attractive but the character spider gives me the biggest ick ever
Darren needs new friends ......Why Did both Quinni & Amerie leave Darren with Chook ? Chook could've done anything to Darren and I'm upset that Darren didn't get to confront them .
i’m gay but Spider & Missy’s chemistry was off the charts !!!
i have never rooted for a straight couple the way i rooted for them😭😭
season one was cute but season two definitely solidified that heartbreak high is one of, if not the best teen shows out right now
I low-key loved Spider's Grease/Danny Zuko makeover even with a nod to it via is formal dance suit, I can't help it 🤦♀
finally a take on spider i agree on. i really feel like people don’t remember how terrible he was and how he didn’t even do much to change. literally first thing missy does that he doesn’t like, he goes on a misogynistic rant 😭😭
When I found out what Cash name meant I cried
I think season 1 was definitely better. I like season 2 but the villains were just straight up silly. Especially the incel teacher dude he went from total sexist pig to straight up felon real quick
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Omg finally someone's saying it. Why Spider?! Lol. They did that relationship really well but I wish that came third season, and we had one season of Spider actually doing some work on himself on his own. There is no stopping the Spider girlies. Last season it was Amerie, now it's Missy. Can the guy not grow up without having his hand held.
i was BAWLING my eyes out when amerie and harper were stuck in the room at the formal. i thought she was gonna die 😭
the kid not being real was CRAZY
I quite liked it, and as an Australian it was very accurate to my high school experience (and the experiences of other Aussie’s. Even the arson according to someone I know). My only complaint is I don’t like the psychotics as villains trope, only because psychosis is a heavily stigmatised disorder and using a disorder/disability to explain why someone is villainous has been something the mentally I’ll and disabled communities have been trying to push back against. Like, Rowan being psychotic bothered me, because we definitely need more accurate and positive representation of psychotics and this just wasn’t that. The average psychotic would not be doing something like that, and I don’t like how his crimes were attributed to his disorder, when psychosis is as already stated, a very stigmatised and stereotyped disorder. Like, psychotics aren’t dangerous, I’m friends with a few and they’re fine, so it just bothered me. Everything else was fine, and as an autistic asexual I loved Quinni and Ca$h’s story arcs. I also loved Ca$h just calling out peoples acephobia. Like, Dusty honestly sucked for trying to say Ca$h’s identity was selfish, like you’re not going to call a gay person selfish for not returning the feelings of women, so why is it selfish to be asexual? Quinni’s arc, loved it. It is so annoying to have people tell youthar the world can’t follow by your rules when you’ve spent your entire life following everyone else’s rules when they refuse to even actually explain them to you. Like, why is this rude? To me this seems fine? But yeah, loved it mostly, just that one complaint about the villain being psychotic.
Yeah the only movie/tv show that portrayed a realistic normal person with a psychotic disorder is 'words on bathroom walls' every other character with a psychotic disorder is a villain or criminal e.g Joe from you.
This season was so good so many real topics and super tragic characters(looking at you Rowan) but man I don’t even realize I was tearing up at the end of it
Yess I have been waiting for your review on season 2!!!
I really like spider and Missy, but I went rewatch season 1 to remember his shity actions, so that the writers don't trick me with his redemption arc lol
He still hasn't done anything good besides liking Missy, which he can't really take credit for lol
I still don’t like the trope of using a WOC to rebrand an Incel. Missy and Spider didn’t give enemies to lovers for me. They could’ve put her with someone less harmful in my opinion. Sure he’s a teen and he can change but I just didn’t like the ship, nor do I like when people ship him with WOC like Amerie.
No it was super weird that they made it a WOC job to fix the white man with mommy issues and a complex. I really wish instead after they had hooked up she called him out and then basically told him that she won’t fix him and that he needs to figure it out for himself. I wish they had shown him seeing how bad the rhetoric he spews can affect the girls around him.
@@giamarie3761yes because I understand he is a victim of his upbringing and the writers made sure that the audience understood that but they didn’t bother showing the victims of Spencer’s words. It’s like they flipped the script for him this season. I’m all for fleshing out antagonists but even in this season he was acting the same incel well without regard. They made Spencer double down on it when he was with Missy and immediately regress when she rejected him like he did with Amerie and I wasn’t surprised. People ship them because they love enemies to lovers but in this case it just seems harmful. I would like to see how The people Spencer has been targeting for years react to his sudden change.
I think his attraction towards Missy contributed to his reflection in a realistic way. When you really want someone you’re willing to work on yourself and change. The white guy who educates himself for a poc woman trope is tired yes, but I feel Spider’s arc has much more to it than that. Even in season 1 it’s apparent that he doesn’t always agree with his words or actions but stands on them to maintain some false sense of self that he believes asserts his masculinity. So yea, I think it’s unfair to reduce his arc to a shitty trope
@@rampanthaterbut regardless of him not necessarily believing the hate he spews, he is still saying it, impacting the people it’s targeting to (Darren, Sasha, Amerie, Harper) and more. And that loud and empty apology he said to the crowd of people isn’t anything and will continue remain so in my opinion unless he personally apologises as well as realises the damage he’s done. Maybe because I’m a WOC so his arc just means less to me, as well as the fact I’ve been around people like him, so I don’t buy and the writers shouldn’t of written in in this damaging way. Hope they fix up next season and not double down on his actions and let him feel the consequences of what he made the targets of his “faux” hate feel.
when i tell you that note BROKE ME, like i was tearing up but that rly did it for me
I got so so sooooo obsessed with Malakai from litterally the beginning and I litterally told myself to raise my standards and search myself a boyfriend like him. yk the Malakai in the first episodes?? Yup thats gon be my man AND ALSO I GOT SO PISSED OF THE FACT HE JUST RACKED OFF like damn that broke me man come back 😔
I didn’t miss Dusty at all
I love how generally stupid the teens are behaving.. I feel like in a lot of teen shows 16years old look and behave like mid 20s which is so unrealistic.. and HBH giving us szenes where everyone just takes mushrooms and then doing really messy and weird stuff is so refreshinh to see.. like yes teens are mostly really stupid.. though I didnt lile all the Romantic Drama.. would have loved more focus on the friendships..
I love Qunni and I hope we get to see her figure herself out next season. Spider is annoying, though it was good that they started to give him layers this season so he wasn’t as one dimensional as S1. My pet peeve is that the actor looks like he’s 30. I think he’s in his late 20s, but he looks 30 to me. Not even close to a teenager.
Loved your analysis 👏 the only think I would’ve wanted to include was the stuff about the puritans . Even though Zoe was very annoying in the first half of the season I’m glad that we got to understand somewhat of what her thought process is and why she goes so hard . In fact , the concept of having the puritans contrasts well with the sexual nature of most of the casts - giving voices to teens who don’t want to be a part of the unruliness that hormones can bring. But the camp scene did tie it all together through depicting that she too gets urges but wants to believe that her way is the best way like the rest of them. Eventually I learned to appreciate the group especially when they accepted Darren. The whole season truly illustrates the colorful, chaos that can be coming of age and maturing into what could be through societal peer pressure.
And I also want to bud in to say I dont think spyder deserves to say he’s completely changed after trying to get with missy. But I do think it’s important to talk about what goes through a persons head to allow them to do a things to the degree that it’s done. The inclusion of the cumlords really helped show how important a male figure can be in a man’s life - especially in spyder’s case. And I really feel like spyder turning on coach really helped his development in understanding his mom’s frustration by a fraction and fully being able to make a choice in the type of person he wants to move forward as. Ultimately I don’t think spyder and missy fit each other in the best ways that they are now but it depends on how willing they are to accept each other while learning to embrace the best version of themselves.
i was feeling great about the season until I got to the plot twist, it completely lost me, I really didn't like the final part, the events seemed really random to me and not fitting at all, it was really frustrating
I clicked so fast
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Samee I was waitinggg
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Spider is so fine to me and him and Missy together gave me such a bi-panic 😍😍
im sorry but everytime voss was on the screen i just fast forwarded because i know whatever he is saying has no importance in the main story. it was sooooo irritating to watch him bcs i see that kind of men irl all the freaking time. so i didnt want to watch him on screen too. yet i do understand the importance of the character in the grand scheme of things
edit: i think the makers truly understand what the audience want and just want to deliver that. that is why even season 1 finale got a proper ending; where if netflix was to cancel it, the fans wont be left hanging on some unresolved suspence. that is why they made the season 2 finale resolved that if netflix doesnt announce another season fans are not going to hold on to that. and i really appreciate that from the makers
I’ve been rewatching Season 2 for three days. The relationships, the sex, the character developments, Quinni’s autistic expression, the language is more “Aussie”, everything about it was amazing.
I loved Missy & Spider’s relationship unfold.
I love Ca$h’s Nan in this season… Superior character addition.
Worst character was that freaking coach (i actually get the ick when he’s on screen)
I’m genuinely obsessed with this season.
Rowan is hot…. but sooooo messy & I still dont know how I feel about him and I’ve watched this 3x
S1 was rewatchable, but Harper’s story line is just a tad too much for me. S1 doesn’t put me on an emotional roller coaster like S2 does.
Finally, I have TONS of thoughts. But I love that every character explored their friendship with others. They weren’t attached to the hip of 1-2 characters. We got to see everyone’s friendships with one another.
Missy was really hot ngl
devi is way more self destructive.
I hate seeing Darren get so much hate this season!! I think the writers really did them dirty making them the 'bad guy' in both Quinni and Ca$h's storylines while not unpacking Darren's own difficulties. Reminds me so much of how people dragged S2 Jules for struggling with Rue's addiction. I really think they need a therapy scene with Darren like in Jules' Special episode to explore their struggles with gender bc the majority of the audience clearly don't understand the complex relationship between hypersexuality-self worth-queerness they just see it as Darren being selfish.
What? That’s wild, I really don’t see anything wrong with Darren distancing themselves from Ca$h when as far as they know, Ca$h was an accomplice in a near gang-r*pe. And as for Quinni, Darren has been more accommodating than most people but they’re not a mind reader. Especially when Quinni has learned to mask her own needs even around her best friend.
Since I haven't seen a single comment about this, was I the only person who was gagged 😰 when I found out they was no brother and this whole time he was having schizophrenic episodes because that made his character 10× scarier to me
The way I’ve been WAITING for this video omg I loved ur s1 review
Amerie and Missy were my faves this season!!
I definitely love this season of heartbreak high more than season one because they’re were a lot of storylines and plot. I still love season one but I think season two is a masterpiece of work. I hope malakai returns and I hope that Amerie and him could work things out. Also that letter he wrote for her at the end I hope Amerie knows about that too. I love the actor who plays Darren like he should be in more shows and movies.
the way i figured out rowan was bird psycho was so dumb there was a moment malaki was wearing a red bird sweater and then rown suddenly appeared and i was like omg
Missy is a potential mother.
She said “I’m just hot and talking” and I fell in love with her.
Ngl Sasha is problematic but she ate down this season with the looks😮💨
I think it was interesting that spider got angry at having to draw his feelings instead of punching something lol 'cause people need different tools
But that led to the cumprimento lords which was pathetic