Best Card in HS = Best Deck in HS... Right? | Secret Passage | Scholomance Academy | Hearthstone
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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2020
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Holy shit Jens, he isn't even done with the stream yet! Lmao
Damn Jens too good
5 STAR DECK
edit: he didn't immediately hit face with 3/1 stealth, 0/10 not even aggro
It feels like the Questing Adventurer isn't doing anything for this deck, it was just getting stuck in his hand in almost every game he played
Yeah, questing, Edwin and the legends aside from Lilian don't belong imo, and even miscreant is questionable
Yeah i dont know why he is running so mnay tempo cards
@@X-Vidar Lilian is very good for the aggro Rogue, it's basically 4 guaranteed damage even after boardclear and body left over for another 4 damage next turn, that's a lot for a single 4 mana cost card.
@@X-Vidar miscreant has a place in almost any rogue deck.
@@Laireso and that's why she's the only legend I would keep
The animations this set are looking to be some of the best.
So thats where all the money for balance is going.
I wish we could disable them.
@@RealityMasterRogue If most classes have very powerful decks/cards it is indeed balanced, unless you hit your head somewhere and need to be explained the concept of balance lol?
@@Willowisp927 Like the game started yesterday. Balance with previous cards, as if there were a direction, or power limit to achieve. There are none this time, so all cards being OP means the game FORCES you to aquire que new cards, not based on logic of better structured decks, more interesting with the meta, but by sheer powercreepiness. Well, to be fair there ARE new mechanics this time around, but the old ones that appeared, exclude pleyability of the previous.
@@PauloRicardo-md4ji so you want all cards to remain same power level forever?
Looks more like the deck itself isnt that good rather than 1 mana draw 5 being not good.
honestly he kept trading with an agro deck and an agro deck that runs a 5 drop and flik instead of sap the deck can be a lot better
Also wargen infiltrator, really trump
@@danielnolan8848 wargen is actually compeletly fine for the archetype, it's stealth and the deck wouldn't have enough stealth minions without it. The 2 mana 3/1 stealth though should be removed, it's too expensive for the stats.
@@Laireso "deck wouldn't have enough stealth minions without Worgen" "remove the 2 Mana 3/1 stealth minion"
Pick one.
Also, if you want a Stealth Minion, play Akama, it comes with a 6/5 with _Permanent_ Stealth.
@@michaelbowman6684 No, he's right. Aggro doesn't like spending mana on stuff and the 2 drop stealth wastes 4 mana for value when you're looking to close out the game quickly. It also disrupts potential Secret Passage turns and Voracious Reader draws.
"TODAY!!", the last thing a deck hears
I don't know what's better, hearing Trump yell "TODAY!" or Carl yelling "TO-NIGHT!"
lillian's deathrattle causing her to attack into the enemy hero while they have their weapon is actually a really cool interaction.
I think that's rather bug than interaction... Does the Hunters 5/4 Dorment mech have the same interaction with opponent's weapons?
brooklyn and bailey
@@dantebenedetti8095 Because that's how weapons work? They give your hero attack on your turn. They lose durability when you attack with your hero. If an enemy minion attack into your hero, obviously your weapon don't lose durability (since you didn't attack), and the minion gets damaged (since you have attack).
@Laires imprisoned felmaw attacks in your turn when your opponents weapon is passive, this does the opposite. Its not a bug but a 5Head interaction.
Laires why would it. It happens on the turn the weapon isn’t active. When misdirection procs the same thing will happen. It’s always worked like this.
The animation of Secret Passage is awesome honestly
This “aggro” deck was so frustrating. What are all those non-aggro cards doing in it, and why is he not actually attacking his opponent?
Worst aggro deck lol
guy is trash at making decks
Ah, are you new around here? Trump can't play/make an aggro deck to save his life.
@@eruhinmakhtar9162 I feel like there was a brief period where he looked like he had finally learned his lesson regarding face dmg/trading, but this video certainly indicates otherwise... XD
Also other more recent gameplay. Maybe he unlearned his lesson or stopped caring or something.
@@lunia123 "Guy is trash at making decks"? How many decks have you made that were number 1 in the world? Because Trump has had a number of them.
Oh man, the Sneaky Deliquent. The story is she's looting a mimic and gets eaten so you replay her ghost. How tragic.
@Blue .Barrymore It's not really that hard to figure if you read the flavor text of the card, and notice the eyes, tongue, and teeth the chest has.
@Blue .Barrymore When your ghost gets stuck and you can't unstuck it though... then it's time for some tears.
Have you heard of the Fishy Flyer who died at 100 mph?
@Blue .Barrymore It can be a tragic story without being sad IRL. It's not like anyone really mourns for Romeo and Juliet but we sure can appreciate a great tragedy when we see one.
A build with secret passage has to be way more aggro than this, Trump's deck has way too much top end and not enough 1 and 2 drops.
And he isn't even sending the one drops he does have face because "I can value trade". With a face deck...
He has 3 cards that cost more than 3 mana.
Well ofc he will play the 2 new legendaries now which are the top end
I agree a more aggressive version of this deck could steamroll anything seeing how well this kinda bad list did.
sap is better than flik in this deck?
If anyone missed Trump trades this video should satisfy you for the next year
Dear god it's excruciating to watch.
@@passerby4507 And yet here are you guys every single video! It's actually excruciating to see how someone can be so stupid to watch someone just to trash them.
Nah, I'm joking, actually commenters like you make me chuckle lol.
FINALLY, A CARD TO RIVAL THE MIGHTY *_MAGTHERIDON_*
*5 STARS*
Well, it certainly isn’t THE ANCIENT ONE
I've never killed anyone with Magtheridon, but I assure you he's better than you think as a tempo card on 8. Basically deathwing without having to dump your hand as long as you have the hellfire combo and your opponent has 3 spaces on their side.
Actually Magtheridon might see play. some dude was running it in a weird spell burst warrior deck with the scythe and cleared house pretty decently.
HitchensImmortal that’s a lot of “as long as” making it very niche in the time of lackey board flooding
the instant concede when the totem gained lifesteal got me.
Title could be: "Watch Trump not know how to play aggro for 25 minutes."
ye
Been absolutely loving that your Editor uses the music from Wizard of Legend, such a good pick
Actually I think this is pretty powerful. He was pretty close on the matches he lost. And on one of them he didn't get any of his draw cards.
A little bit of tooling around and this will be good.
I see what you did here. Lowering the hype with this sub optimum build because the potential scares you. Me too...
I don’t even play hearth anymore, I just come to see trump
I’m half mad that streamers get early access because it kills the excitement for us, but also happy to see this.. hmm
Don't watch it?
Most game drop early copy to content creators so they can excite the players. This is no different. Don't see how this kills excitement.
Just like... close your eyes then.
Mecha Donkie only half mad.. that sounds like a 100% mad precaution
@@ravenknightvincent2722 I think the difference is that most games aren't multiplayer card games, where having streamers theory craft can build the meta even before it come out.
Note that it will change, like we saw last time, I'm just saying that it's annoying that people don't get to give the set a chance on their own due to seeing these decks before the drop.
19:57 That Gandling Battlemage played into death sound clip is hilarious.
The fires of vengeance burn BLAAAAAAAH
love the editing the reactions from fellow streamer opponents priceless! top notch video
i think secret passage is pretty op in aggro stealth rouge , if you actually build a aggro stealth rouge. Like cut the questings and the flick, even the jandice barov probably, and add in some more proactive 2 drops. Like the 2 mana 1/3 stealth draw a card if that is still around. Then you actually need to hit face sometimes instead of value trade and you might actually play aggro rouge.
I like how he digraces his call even though he didn't draw the card except for one time where it always felt awkward.
The moral of this story is that Sap is a good card. It would have given him the win against RDU and the Messy Patron.
Could you try deathrattle/beast hunter, i played an version last expansion and it was pretty good and its gotten some decent support.
The turnaround rate on this video is insaaaane
Where's the song that plays from 20:20 onwards from? Dragon Quest?
EDIT: It's Wizard of Legend!
Goodness gracious this editing is on point.
The card seems strong. The rest of the deck is utter trash.Stealth aggro lmao because everyone knows aggro wins by sitting on stealth minions and playing 5 mana do nothing cards...
He's playing a 5-mana do nothing because it's new and exciting, not because he thinks it's good.
@@LillianKillThisMan Well that's the point of theorycrafting isn't it. To try and create working good archetypes from the new cards. We can already tell which cards are good and bad, but we want to see if they actually fit in their meant archetype, like Lilian in Stealth aggro Rogue or Dr. Krastinov in Pirate Warrior. You don't need to play cards like 5 mana 1/1, they aren't exciting they are just bad. You could put argument, well this isn't standard meta so these trash cards have at least one time to shine, to show us their animation and quotes, but I would say most players just want to see how the actual archetype with the best cards perform, because that's what they want to play, the most OP deck possible.
The 5 mana Rogue/Mage legendary is one of the worst cards in the set, maybe one of the worst 5 drops in Standard. Why not just run 1 good 5 drop instead of this. It doesn't fit into any deck, for control it's not enough value, if it even has any extra value compared to a competitive 5 drops, and it is way too slow for any aggro deck, because there are no charge 5 drops in standard anymore, except for Rhino I guess.
Laires The deck he was playing was extremely light on new cards, and you need a certain amount of new cards in your deck to participate in these streams so that they serve their purpose of showcasing new cards.
@@Laireso Poor Thijs advocating in favor of this trash ( but, let's be fair, interesting for mind games ) 5 mana minion... Blizzard could've given him something better LUL
I do think theres something to be said about stealth aggro, as long as he actually attacks face, and refines the deck by removing trash like questing adventurer
Turtles in time background music lol. Yes please
did music from wow appear in videos before? i didn't notice it..
Can anyone explain why the forsaken Lilian died when it attacked his face? I'm a little confused. Obviously it would die to the deal 3 to all, but it appeared to die just by attacking face and I'm not sure why.
Reminds me a bit on the Card Rating for "Defile" back then from Mister Trump....
OMG, TEEENAGE TURTLES THEME SONG HAHAHHAA” I’m too old for this
So does secret passage display the shuffled cards to the opponent?
I LOVE the spellburst symbol
The ending 😂
Insta conceed after that card that summoned the 4 4 students from those 1 mana minion draws are nasty
The scholomance board sounds pretty good
Damn its 12 AM, 25:02 didnt feel good, i mean its hearthstone, was watching before bed, definately didnt expect smth like that -_-
Lilian became a Karen in death confirmed
Boy I hope he used that coin wisely
Music at 20:25 I know that song for a fact but I'm just not sure what it's called
What is that music at the beginning of the clip omg I can’t place it
6:36 i knew that intereaction was coming. unsheathed weapon OP
can you explain this? I have no clue what happened
@@febothesir on your turn, if your hero has an attack value, any character attacking your hero will take damage equal to it. This is rare to see happen, because a weapon gives you attack only on your own turn, so opponents minions attacking you on their turn do not get damaged.
@@beanb34n95 Oh I see, and since it was the DH's turn, the character's weapon was giving the character an attack value. That's really neat.
Reminds me of an idea for a custom card I had that's a weapon, but it's actually a shield that is only active on your opponents turn, loses durability when you get hit, but deals the weapon damage to the attacker. Kinda like a limited thorns effect.
Wait.. Is secret passage+ augmented elekk a new dead mans hand for rogue?
I liked the tmnt music at the beginning
Is that wizard of legend music in the background I hear
Questing Adventurer 3 mana 2/2 in a aggro deck never change Trump
Does spellburst work with a conjured minion like you had at 1:35?
Because if so, that's the ONE thing it could have to actually make it better than the combo keyword in any way whatsoever.
HitchensImmortal You’ll have to wait until 2:19 for the answer to your question.
At 6:38 - Why did the Forsaken Lilian die after hitting face? It seems like she took the damage from the equipped weapon, but that seems like an odd interaction?
Your weapon is active during your turn giving your hero attack and you only lose durability when you initiate an attack
That outro made me laugh so hard
Sneaky delinquent actually seems pretty good in this kinda deck
Damn already Scholomance Content. Blizzard is really fast releasing this to the streamers
wao youtube threw this in my recommended quick bless
I think Hidden Passage would be a good Addition to Highlander rogue
It will be way more easier to hit your very good stand alone cards Like Siamat, Zephyr etc.
If you Shadowstep the Diligent Notetaker, you have an infinite Questing combo, right?
I’m actually excited for this expansion, it seems like it will actually offer some meta variety.
Very naive =D
@@DonFreeq Anyone who judges the future meta from a single video is really naive, lol
@@Willowisp927 Well we will see.
either you need to take out the worgen or double down on the hyper agression. This deck is in a weird spot with questing adventurer trying to go hyper aggro.
cant wait for OTK mage
Is that a 1 mana 2/2?
What's the outtro originally from?
Kanojo, okurishimasu
How are you playing scholomance?
I'll never understand why it's so entertaining watching Trump lose games. Most channels only upload wins or crazy moments but Trump keeps it real.
Can't wait for card ratings
So the old game boards have board-specific music now? When did THAT happen? Prior to Knights of the Frozen Throne, they all just had generic HearthStone music, right?
Hmm I wonder if that Lilian interaction was intentional. I had never seen that before.
And for the weapon to not lose durability?
It has been in Hs for a long time. It just doesn't come up that often
Same interaction as with Misdirection
It honestly feels like how such an interaction would play out in the original WoW TCG where if a hero has an attack value when attacked (either from using a weapon or activating an effect) they'll deal that much damage to the attacker the same way minions (called Allies in that game) would.
Thanks i’ll never forget that face now
In theory it is one of the best card out there comparable with Tracking from hunter.. but what do I know, I'm a broom
15:23 "A lot of Dah-mahdge"
I think that the problem is that the stealth package isn't tempo enough, and you have too much card draw and/or midgame. I'm not sure if secret passage is viable in this upcoming standard meta given the cards available to rogue but in a vacuum, it should still be a good card. Perhaps it can show its strength better in wild.
Buddy, I've been hear this talk about "In vacuum" for ages. Cards that suppose to be good just for itself and in reality it never see plays on anything. The problem of secret Passage is that it gives you an amazing turn, and after that gives you rotten one. And, if you're next turn is not bad, probably the last one wasn't so amazing either. You see? This card oscillates between being a cheap Plot Twist to a medium All In
secret passage is a slow card. It needs to be slotted in as a late game finisher.
@@dudeyouresick4281 bump
this deck is to be improved I believe. Reload is good when you have some direct face damage in deck, like southsea deckhand and coldblood on it, but not when you have weirdo cards like questings and voracious readers (I don't mind them generally, but this deck has a bit too much draw with no burn). And imagine playing aggro rogue without saps
Trump: This card is completely insane!
Reality: Loses to Big Demon Hunter
The one games he won were thanks to insane highrolls. The first could be chalked up to that random spellburst for the double backstab... without that, I think he'd lose. The second is obvious... getting 3 4 drops on turn 3 is insane.
HS 'pro' youtubers: Believes someone losing to Big Demon Hunter means a card is invalidated on all decks.
Reality: Trump lost to BDH closely by RNG, especially at the first one where if he drew another Evis he simply would have won.
@@Willowisp927 It wasn't closely lol. And he lost basically for everyone lmao
20 minutes in we got Wizard of Legend soundtrack
Is it just me or were there a ton of anti-aggro tools in all these decks? It seems like the aggressive version of Rogue would need a lot more reach to get around some of this stuff.
Cant wait for pure pali to be good
u have more value and synergy with stealth then going aggro into face. I would add 1 cost and the new op rouge weapon and try to go face and kill your opponent then going mid game.
Jens = EDITING SPEED DEMON
Should have self sharpening sword and 2 DP in the deck, sinister strike is also really good, even cold blood. Needs less draw, 1 sap, maybe 1 mieve. You can draw 16 cards with this deck, that’s fucking insane. Don’t need more draw.
The 2 mana stealth is really good though. Add skydiving instructor instead of miscreant and QA.
14:08
If u know what i meeeeean!? Gachibass
do like the turtles in time opening
Isn't secret passage gonna OP with academic espionnage in wild? I'm actually wondering
It’s op with a lot of things. However, it’s awful in thief rogue, because any cards you generate during your secret passage turn will just go back into your deck. So no, it’s no OP with espionage, unless it is your only steal card and you use it for the sole purpose of drawing them out with secret passage
@@dinokitty4197 the cards you espionnage cost 1, so you can empty your hand for a high tempo turn
Tim Hare yes I know it is high tempo with exactly the cards from espionage, but what I’m saying is that your other card generators in theif rogue will be unplayable, since the card you generated will be sent back into your deck. Sure, if you want to just throw in academic espionage in any normal rogue deck, go ahead, but honestly I’d rather draw the cards I put in my deck in wild than random 1 cost maybe high tempo things. Not to mention you have to pay 4 mana to do nothing at first, which is terrible against aggro
It's op with spiders as well xd
I think the power of Secret Passage may actually be higher than most people think it is.
People (Trump included) have said that Secret Passage is like 1 mana draw 5 when you play it with an empty hand, and that it's good in a purely aggro deck with low costed minions so you can play all 5 of those cards before the turn ends or find lethal.
It doesn't seem like people are considering that you can actually use it in a midrange deck without needing an empty hand. Think of it this way: You have a hand full of 5 cost+ but maybe you need some more tempo than that. Maybe you didn't draw as many early costed minions as you'd have like. What if you have 7 mana, you play Secret Passage shuffling in 5 cards, then you play like 3 cards from your new hand. YOU GET ALL 5 OF YOUR CARDS BACK! So this card works in reverse as well. Any of the temporary cards you play from your deck the turn you activate Secret Passage effectively become "... and draw a card at the end of your turn" which is actually really insane. Midrange decks hate running out of steam, so this card allows you to activate it FIRST, then dump your new hand onto the board, and then redraw all of the cards you shuffled into the deck.
Two lovers, forbidden from one another
A war divides their people
And a mountain divides them apart
Built a path to be together
...Yeah, and I forget the next couple of lines, but then it goes...
SECRET TUNNEL!
SECRET TUNNEL!
THROUGH THE MOUNTAIN!
SECRET, SECRET, SECRET, SECRET TUNNEL! YEAH!
What's that, an unoptimized aggro deck is bad at the very start of the expansion when played against other streamers who know how to play control games? Who could have possibly predicted this?!
Edit: man, all these poor shamans trying out new things and getting destroyed make me really sad.
and worse: being destroyed by aggro tempo value secret rogue
Where's the win condition?
Trump: hehe card draw go brrr
Board sound??? Woah!!!! Is that legit?
Just saying Trump was rank 1 paladin back in the day. waiting for his take on paladin . To see the true deck building skills we all know he has
Today's lesson: even the best cards can't save pathetic decks!
I am not quite sure if prioritizing playing secret passage when you have very few cards in hand is the right play. If you play it when you still have like 3-4 cards in hand, you don’t run out of gas as quickly.
I really just couldn't get too hyped over Secret Passage... it's like a solarium that draws an extra two cards, but when did you ever play all 3 cards you got off solarium? Much less if you got 5 cards off solarium. One mana draw five seems like a good deal, but then you remember that you're not going to play 5 cards in a turn...
The thing is, you mostly use it in aggro decks to fish for lethal, kinda like Myra's unstable element, which was played a lot. Also, you can use it to reach your cards that draw cards or generate them, since they won't go back to your deck at the end of the turn. It is a very useful card, honestly.
i love Magtheridon 2.0
Anyone remember memory jar? It was instantly banned.... Pretty much the same card.
mfw realizing the implications of the existence of the spectral delinquent
That typical shaman gameplay tho
Wait where's the sap?
What if he had that 2mana "Return an enemy minion to their hand", he'd win more games.
Why do you not use the gold cards
He doesn't like the look of them.
HighLanderPony Weird
I was surprised and didn't know that the second Lilian would die to the weapon without the weapon losing a charge, but I was even more surprised that Trump didn't know that in advance.
To be fair, it's not an interaction that happens too often.
Hooked scrimitar but no Steeldancer? What