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Make A Cheap & Easy Pond with NO Resin - Just PVA!
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
- In this one we use PVA to create a reasonable looking wargaming pond terrain piece!
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"sorry mine doesn't look great, I messed it up"
Finally a minis channel that I can truly relate to.
I flew too close to the sun and got burnt. I sort of made 3 and ruined 3, wasn't my best work, but the idea is more than fine. Happy to show my failures though :) a lot more failing is probably done off camera that I forget about!
Loving your channel mate. Thanks for the tips, laughs and ideas!
@@Westswarriors 100% my pleasure, thank you :)
I love that you are not afraid to show us both things that work and things that dont....all to often it's an easy trap to fall into especially in our hobby of perfectionism. So I really have to say I appreciated that boss
Yes exactly. I could try and only ever show the perfect things, but almost nothing I do is perfect, terrain is often about hiding mistakes! I pushed it too far in this case but the method is sound. My pleasure :)
Yessssss finally water
I will be doing more....just not for a couple of months as going to do some classic 40k stuff.
You know what i really like about this channel, is that you dont take yourself or the terrain to seriously you don't expect or demand perfection. Which makes me more confident in building terrain myself. I really think this is going to be my first project.
-" one of my ponds looks like a set of cock and balllz. I did that on accident but next time ill do it on purpose "
Yo, that made me laugh OUTLOUD.
P.s would i be able to use food coloring with my elmers glue? Or would that look super ugly when dried lol.
Thanks for showing the mistakes you made and i think the epoxy looks better too honestly
Hey! Thanks for the kind words, and yeah I don't expect myself to do things perfectly and I want to show that it's not as intimatating as it seems, like exactly as you found it! I like to show whatever mistake I make, I think terrain is often hiding mistakes!
So I wouldn't use food colouring but you could put a little drop of paint in it (an ink would be better), I do think it could look good but I think paint underneath and then do clear layers will look the best.
"But next time i might do it intentionally". I love it! Great video bruh.
every time I saw it after I made the shape I couldn't help think it looked like a dong! Thank you :)
I'm so glad I found this channel. Your stuff really gives me the confidence to go out and actually attempt to build something. You've quickly become my favorite terrain guy
I loved waking up and readin this. I am thrilled, thank you and good luck in your builds :)
I watch a ton of terrain videos, all kinds of content makes, and this is by far one of the best ever for anything. You list failure after failure and talk about what works - most folks just say "here is how to do it" but you showed your experiments, you showed the failures, and this to me is extremely helpful. Thanks mate.
also, those ponds are whack, but I want to make some now.
nice video, quick tip (experimental!) when you get to layer 4 or 5 put a layer of light blue or light green wash, this in theory should tint the white to blue or green respectively.
You are a good teacher and your passion for creativity is a complement to your kindness.
Thank you! 😃
I come to sing the praises of Mod Podge Gloss. Dries absolutely clear, is hardier than PVA, and you can get big tubs of it. Also it's quite runny by itself, no need to add anything to make it flow. And you can use it to add waves on the water at the end, you add some to the area, then blow on it with your airbrush, or just out of a straw, or alternatively just stipple it on with a big brush. In Europe you'll probably have to order it online though, i still haven't seen it sold in stores, worth it.
I've heard of other products, there's an "Americana" brand one called "Triple Thick" which should also work fine and be easy to get for Americans even in big quantities.
Yeah a lot of people use the mod podge gloss for the water effects on top so that makes sense! I think in the UK hobby craft may sell it but amazon has it at least. Thanks for the info.
I think this was a very useful tutorial because you pushed the envelope trying different methods and in the end you learned what worked which is what all modellers do when experimenting with a new technique. The color looks fine as I have seen ponds that ranged in color from brownish green to a gray shade. You could apply an acrylic clear coat after the layers have dried to give it a wet look. Thanks for taking the time and effort to make this tutorial.
The glossyness of the pva will make it look a little wet, but I went a bit too far and the white stoppped it shining so much. Live and learn!
I poured a very thick layer of PVA for my spawning pond. (I.e. almost to the top.) Once fully dried, I painted it a dark glue then gave it a green wash before layering several coats of gloss varnish.
I made a pond similar to this once. It was for a diorama I still haven't finished. I used layers of Puffy Paint for rocks, painted the bottom of the pond, brushed on a thin layer of blue glow paint, then covered the water's surface with Gloss Mod Podge. If I could do it over, I'd just get some actual rocks to suround the pond instead or collect my balled up bits of dried paint and glue and shape those into rocks.
I should definitely do it again. I could use some water scatter terrain.
Love seeing the failures and why as well as the finished piece. Great Video, thanks for sharing.
Some people find the 2 part glues to turn a little yellow over time, the uk poundland versio to my knowledge doesn't, but worth keeping in mind.
Brilliant, thanks very much.
I think that your DIY terrain vids are really helpful because it is really easy to find the needed materials because it is hard right now to get what you need in stores.
Keep your good work up!
Hye Thomas, nice to talk to you again! And yeah that's really one of my main considerations, and not every video will be something everyone can get, but if I do things in many different ways then mabybe one will be right for someone :)
Made a "Richard lake" lol thanks for the inspiration!
Hope your doing well while I dive thru your wonderful video library!
On the water debate, nothing beats experimentation till you find what you like, but I don’t think making it blue-ish is a bad idea, because rarely is anything properly to scale in table top games. Houses and such are all representations and if you can picture what a 3’x3’ board would look like in real life, you’d barely get a couple houses on a board when most people can manage a damn good looking town in that space. If peoples normal expectations of water is to be blue, then it might be best to meet their expectations rather that strive for realism.
This is amazing you saved my project! Looking forward to watching more of your content. 💜
The extra pva ones might make a decent frozen lake effect for scatter terrain
Why on earth is there a dislike, I mean, he's legit making your lofe easier?
Heh, the dislike can't say why, maybe they didn't like the sytle, the length, the editing, whatever. I don't mind them, obviously detailed feedback would be better but no skin off my back. But I appreciate the sentiment, thank you :)
Devs and Dice used Mod Podge for his modular river video. And I think that would work here in this example as well. I myself (an American) was able to find Mod Podge at a Walmart for 7$.
Yeah that's a classic, but often people buy the Matt version, so people may have to buy it specially and if you are doing that, I would go s cheap tin of gloss varnish. But it's great if you have it already!
i like this vid,i have been making scenic boards for years,but its good to try new ways,we learn by our mistakes,,i found this useful and interesting,i did not know about the epoxy gorilla glue,thakyou for sharing
Hey, thanks, I'm happy someone experienced can take anything away from it, I guess that's how you keep improving :)
You got me to sub with showing your tried and true methods for water. You got me to hit the bell and laugh out loud how you basically said one looks like a private part without missing a beat. 😆 So hilarious! It was like, it is what it is. Just go with it! You have a wonderful personality. I hope more videos are to come soon..
Too kind, I am currently working on some ideas, I think I might go a bit more into the gaming side of things as that is where my heart truly lies :)
@@TerrainMadeEasy that sounds awesome! Thanks for the reply. I got a bit worried you had stopped making RUclips videos. If you make them, I will come. Lol
@@inquisitivesoutherntara6997 Thanking you :)
@@TerrainMadeEasy 👍🏻
If you want to pour PVA to get a smooth surface dilute with enough water so it actually flows and self levels. Drying time: forever.
Yeah, I don't think I have the patience for that
Very good. I like your honesty about your mistakes. I'll probably try the two part epoxy.
Good luck :)
Hey man, instead of pva, go to the paint department of your local art&craft store and buy gloss acrylic medium. It dries clear, and glossy.
Glossy modpodge would probably work too.
Ooo sure, I should have mentioned this, but I wante dto show you can use what you have some times.
Nice work. Both the pva and epoxy methods turned out very well imo. Thank you 👍😎🇦🇺
Thank you kindly :)
Put a little duck or a fish-tail on the blob, that way there is a reason for it ;)
I am not smart enough to think of that at the time!
@@TerrainMadeEasy I'm sure You are very smart. You did a great job, again! Thank You for that, will try something like this out soon.
@@thevoltageAD heh too kind, good luck thanks
Thanks for your demonstrations. I learned a lot! Good work!
I wouldn't worry too much about making the water's surface as flat as possible. There are plenty of reasons why the surface might be disrupted. Maybe play up to it a bit with a menacing tentacle or alien eye stalk sticking out.
I wasn't worried, more curious I guess, wanted to see if I could smooth it out...I couldn't. It still looks fine on the table as you say :)
Top notch, Jay. I'm going to use the epoxy method to fill some MDF fountains that I built. I bought the same Gorilla epoxy here in the States (California) for about $5. Thanks for sharing. Cheers, --Bo
The glue is expensive at that rate, often you can pick something similar up in dollar shops, but not a guarentee! Sounds cool!
Fantastic educator. Great job
tii kind, thank you :)
Can we use only Epoxy Glue instead of PVA glue ????
I question whether Elmer's Glue-All would work better than their School Glue. Also, in some places they sell a _clear_ version of Elmer's glue.
I had some Elmers clear glue...I can't remember if I tried it. Silly me.
I was thinking the same about the glue all versus the school glue. The school glue isn't regular PVA since it's formulated to be washable. Not sure if the glue all dries clear or not. Honestly none of the various glues that you could buy are that expensive and all could be used eventually while crafting. I'm sorta thinking about grabbing a collection of various glues and making some labeled test pieces to compare and contrast.
Interesting idea pva glue thanks
Thank you! Cheers!
Really good like loads of your ideas trying to piece together a middle earth sbg board..
Glad you like them! Good luck
I love this! I had no idea there were so many glues.
Can you advise if there's any glue I can use to simulate a running tap?
Amazing work, great to learn from you. One question, I tried once to do a pond from pva glue, but when it dried it separated from the edges of the 'walls', also the edges of the water became soft
Hmm maybe try a different pva, worth testing before you put it on a project I think :)
This method could be super useful for some kind of alien/ demon blood pool if the ground underneath is painted red right? Would this work with a gloss mod podge?
I'm pretty sure gloss mod pogde would work, someone commented saying ti would. Red would be cool!, Green would be ooze!
@@TerrainMadeEasy and a mix of green and yellow, perhaps swirled into each other, would be all sorts of alien weirdness.
This would look good for winter ice pond. Just make it winter and snowy.
Aleene's tacky glue dries clear. 1 thing though, if you end up spending $5 or the equivalent on a 2 part epoxy that has 2oz or 4oz whatever it is maybe you should just spend the $10 for 8oz of a bottle of modelers realistic water. Just if it ends up costing the same or more. I have a bottle of transparent resin for my 3d printer I'm thinking about trying a little bit of it cause I always have a bottle.
Stupidly I actually have some of that but never thought to try it.
The 2 part pozy resin in the uke you can get for £1 (I just got it from amazon due to covid). So in the uk it's a good alternative to small prohjects.
Thank you for sharing, I learned a lot from your video.
100% my pleasure :)
It's really very cool
Thanks :-)
Wow! Simple, easy, inexpensive...
What more could we ask for?
heh thank you very kindly :)
Does anyone know if i can simulate something trapped in ice with this
Hey dood will you ever come back you think???? Thanks man
A private part?! I was thinking more like a bike seat! 😂 Also I think you could use a slightly watered down joint compound or with the toilet tissue instead of plaster of paris. JC is different from spackle though i think for miniature hobbyists, they could be used interchangeably.
People always say different things, BMC refers to it sometimes as pre mixed joint compound I think. I just say everything.
I'll take bike seat!
Thank you so much thisvis what i wanted to make my diorama thank you so muck :) 😃
Absolutely my pleasure!
Have you tried clear Elmer's? I use that for putting glass in my plastic models and now thinking about giving it a go on my model railroad lake. Thanks for the tips!
Can I use fevicol for these brother
I really like your vídeos.
The only problem with two parts resin, is after 6 months its turns yellow.
So I should have mentioned this. I can say that the one in the UK pound shop didn't start to go yellow on me after a few years, but worth mentioning indeed!
I wonder how much that has to do with the material itself, and how much it has to do with exposure to air. Maybe apply a layer of gloss varnish?
Supper funny!
Thank you :)
In the works they have some completely transparent pva, I found this shop in the UK and it was about £2 for a lot
Ooo nice, I am mainly ordering online at the minute but do you know where you got it from?
@@TerrainMadeEasy you can get it from the store called “The Works” in the UK
elmer's and arlene's make a clear in the bottle pva glue I have not tried it for terrain water but I have tinted it and put it in small glass bottles to make mini potion bottles or for food jars. . Works great
Yeah I didn't try Elmer's, I presume it would work fine if on budget as well. Thanks :)
@@TerrainMadeEasy Elmer's "school glue" is not the same as Elmer's "all purpose glue
school has more water in it so it is washable don't use it, Elmer's all purpose in so much better
@@josieber8032 We don't really have the differences in the UK I think. IF it dries clear it's probably okay for this purpose but I would not use weak pva if I could avoid it for gluing!
Just put a rock on smudge or some small gravel across drip trail and lightly glue it.
The damage was I think a but toomuch to hide but you are right, I could have tried. I don't mind, these pieces were more tests to see how far I could push things, the glue was just meant as an alternative example, I didn't expect to mess it up lol
Just stick some flock over the little mistake or some water reeds. Problem solved 😀
That's my usual style!
What about using clear varnish for water? Does that work or is there a problem with using that?
I don't know if that would work, it's not too cheap is it? I don't know, but would be interesting to check.
Have you tried this with Elmer's clear pva glue?
Sadly, I don't think I did
Oh hey, another idea, what about that clear pva elmers makes?
Yea I think clear pva works fine, I tried elmer snormal school glue and it was just odd but could just be my bottle etc. I am mainly saying, try what you have and if not, don't byu lots of different PCA's!
In old games workshop terrain-making guides they did this but with gloss varnish instead of glue.
I just use glue mainly as people might already have it and it's cheap. Gloss varnish, gloss gel will all work well I think.
Hey sweetie. I would like to know can you use the epoxy resin stuff on xps foam?
I'm pretty sure you can but I would say at least do a little test.
@@TerrainMadeEasy OK will do. Thank you kindly
@@melissarenladyoflight1599 Good luck, let me know if you have any issues :)
@@TerrainMadeEasy will do sweetheart ❤️😊
@@TerrainMadeEasy it works I use sand and plaster of Paris and toilet paper.. Lol need to get more toilet paper now.. Any I also use patty. Epoxy resin did OK so 24 hours to dry..
Or Joyce’s “snot-green sea” ... 😉
Snot green always an option, sometimes unintentionally!
Hmm have you tried aliens clear glue it dries wet looking
I have not, I haven't heard of that sorry!
@@TerrainMadeEasy I spelled it wrong aleen's. there is a white version and a clear gel version. It's a type of tacky glue.
@@cscherbarth1622 oo yes I have some of the tacky glue myself but it seems a bit more expensive than pva so I didn't test it.
"Just Epoxy", not "just PVA"