pt. 2 please bc brooklyn just got engaged to a man who OPENLY posts "black people just need to learn how to be respectful to the police, police have never done anything racist" and says trump is a literal godsend all over his facebook as does his family, and she has two black siblings. im nauseous.
Oh lord. I feel brooklyn got pressured to get engaged asap because she and dakota have no chemistry whatsoever. Brooklyn and brooks were so much better as a coupl.e
I live in a major city and saw two missionaries lost near a college campus. They were trying to ask people for help and everyone was blowing them off. A year ago I honestly would have done the same. But watching you guys and hearing your stories over this past year has taught my little atheist heart to have compassion and understand that these young kids were thrust into their situation and are probably so, so scared. I was able to help them on their way and assure them everything would be okay. Thank you guys for enlightening me and bringing understanding to situations that I never would have considered.
What drives me crazy about them is as they get older/more successful, they still try to act like they're middle class/relatable. Like girl nobody that's 22 can buy their own house on their own by "hard work" alone. Mommy and Daddy handed you a multi-million dollar career at 13, own up to it. I'm the exact same age as them, also a twin, and have twice the education and work experience as them and I can barely afford an apartment LMAO
The thing is, they did make their START that way, but they have more subs than CGH and they speak to a different audience. But its true, they did get a huge boost from CGH
Hmmmm its not necessary to pretend. Its not worth to bragging or show flex their money. I dont think its their type to do that. Even im wealthy but i don’t need to brag about having expensive car or stuff. I rather to be humble and be comfortable than flexing.
Brooklyn went live on tiktok and was asked if she believes in waiting to have sex after marriage. Over the years she has always stood by waiting for marriage but in this recent live she said, “I don’t feel comfortable answering that. I don’t want my opinion to sway your opinion. So I’m not answering that. Bailey loves talking about sex so you can ask her.”
They also did a vlog on how they celebrated their birthdays. Bailey and Asa went to Disneyland and Brooklyn and Dakota went glamping and there was only one bed 😅
If there was ever a part two on this family you should touch upon their sister Rylan - there’s definitely a weird story there. She stopped appearing the the families weekly vlog and it was said she went away to private school for a break from social media (she was supposedly target for bullying for being bigger than her sisters) but there’s evidence that suggests she actually went to an isolated Arizona school for “bad girls” - wondering if her behaviour went against her parents religious beliefs maybe?
Mindy talked about the racism her kids faced and so did Shaun. Mindy said she was horrified at comments from friends, neighbours etc. Someone said they thought her black babies' skin would be rough and scaly and Paisley, her little black girl, experienced hard times at school for her hair, with which Mindy has helped her to push through and express herself.
yeah that is why cross-racial adoptions are very dicy. Why put these innocent already traumatized children into the position that they have to grow up in a racist theocratic state where they experience even more open racism? The US needs to support families more bcs in many cases kids are taken bcs of poverty and its circumstances.
@@amandataylor7272 She may love her child to pieces but there are two sides to this. Why put your child in a community void of diversity. There are practically no black people in the mormon church, to keep that’s not as loving as it may seem. Speaking up and reassuring is one thing, but giving your children the best possible lifestyle is another. That would mean having friends of your own skin tones. Those poor babies when they try to date and cultivate life long friendships with people who were raised to believe that black equals less than. 😢
Why would they think her skin would be rough and scaly?? Esp a baby, their skin is so soft. Does the book of Mormon say black people have rough, scaly skin? This is so weird
I don't understand how she's marrying a guy who comes from an anti-BLM family who, ostensibly, holds the same beliefs when she has siblings who are BLACK!
i’m sure someone else has commented this, but i have a strong feeling that Brooklyn settled for homeboy because Bailey recently got married. y’all these two did EV-ER-Y-THING together! & i’m sure she felt pressured to get married, as well. i’m all for sibling bonds, but you HAVE to become your own person at some point! i genuinely get anxious for these young women getting married! like, bruh, your brain’s not even fully formed! why you out here committing your life to some frat daddy?! 😬 go explore the world and find yourself, ma’am’s but also, i hope they’re truly happy! ❤️
Especially as a twin myself, everyone forces that agenda on you that you both have to be the same and do EVERYTHING together (which im sure they did.) It’s so wrong and she should be able to explore and take her time in her relationship.
I don't get the point why they are even building houses in the same neighbourhood. It's like they need to be together all the time? When Bailey got married, I had this feeling that Brooklyn would move it with them because they couldn't live far from each other
Somehow Brooklyn ended up on my TikTok FYP. People were asking in the comments "You've only known him for six months. Why are you getting engaged so fast?" I had to block her because I don't want to give her any additional views.
@@divatesteddivaapproved no she’s known him for over 2 years. They dated for six months privately and then they became public. She’s been dating him for a year.
@@hadleyraquel2029 she either lied in all her videos with him or she’s lying now... but she previously said they started dating in June. It hasn’t been a year yet.
I’m SO glad you brought up Dakota supporting Trump. They’ve deleted every comment about that! It’s important because she has 2 Black siblings. I can’t imagine the looks they’ll get at the wedding. Also, that Trump letter was shared AFTER the attack on the Capitol
I love the Mcknights but im not a fan of Brooklynn and Dakota and kind of hate how they just ignore his political party. I really hope they aren’t Trump supporters as well for Dax and Paisley’s well being but i can’t help but think they probably don’t care because they share the same views.
Why it is relevant? I have met some very nice trump supporters, they’re not racist, they don’t spit in my face or think any less of me. Mind you, I’m very visibly Mexican and Native American. Just bc it doesn’t align with what you think is right, doesn’t mean that the whole situation is horrible. What if Dakota is a trump supporter and the McKnight family isnt but they don’t let politics get in the way of things or live people. As long as Dakota is respectful and thinks of her 2 younger siblings the way he thinks of the others, there’s no problem with it. And you won’t ever know that bc you’re not there, so it’s all conspiracy.
I didn’t grow up in Mormonism, but I did grow up in conservative Evangelical Christianity and I am so thankful for people like you! You both sharing your story and pointing out harmful rhetoric has helped me heal so much💕 Thankful for the community you’ve created!
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE AHHHHH. I’m so excited to hear about this family, as I’ve grown up watching Brooklyn and Bailey and seeing them now evolve from their conservative Mormon roots and make lives for themselves and think for themselves is so interesting and refreshing from seeing a lot of outcomes from other Mormon influencers
As someone in the process of deconstructing and figuring out my own faith stuff, it's always a breath of fresh air to see you guys on the other side. I'm sure you still deal with a lot of deeply rooted junk that you're working through but it's so encouraging to see you guys living your true authentic selves!
Love watching you guys! I'm an atheist myself so I find the perspectives of people who have experienced intense religious involvement to be fascinating. I appreciate that you talk about the inherent issues in the LDS church without insulting the people who practice - the distinction between problematic ideas and the people who may be fooled into them, is thoughtful.
thank you for covering them!! i think it’s so important to discuss how even the sweetest people who come across so genuine can be harming oppressed communities without even realizing it (maybe)!
I'm not sure about you guys, but I remember being taught as a kid that it was considered being very dishonest to pay tithing on our income AFTER tax. If you didn't pay 10% of your income before tax, it was a sin. Which is RIDICULOUS!
I always thought Brooklyn was a badass who wouldn’t settle for anything, but I think she she’s settling for him. They dated *long distance* for 10 months. He’s 28 so I bet his family is pressuring him to get married and Bailey always talks about sex now so I’m sure Brooklyn is jealous (if she’s still waiting). His family is LDS and his siblings all got married in the temple, so did Mindy and Shaun, so I bet they’ll pressure them to get married in the temple too….. and if they DON’T, everyone will assume it’s because they had premarital sex.
I followed that family for years and from what I understand Shaun and Mindy would never pressure them. Honestly they seems to have a healthy balance between church gospel and church culture
@@chelsean2481 No, Bailey and Asa are a mixed-faith couple, so no temple wedding. I don't think they would have anyways, as Bailey does not follow most of the "rules" to be "temple worthy".
Brooklyn has heavily implied her and Dakota are sleeping together. The part of this that I find interesting is that Mindy does not seem to approve of this engagement. She has had no kind words or enthusiasm toward Dakaota or the union.
I’d definitely be interested in hearing your take on the new wave of “Mormon” influencers that are focused on young couples living what seem like really nice lives (like the Beestons and their BYU Hawaii friends). It seems like something they very much try to not mention but…the vibe is there.
Bro that entire group of Hawaii Mormon moms scare the living shit out of me lol. They all look so similar and do the exact same dances and like three of the husbands are related??? Like I know it’s a damn island so you’re gonna have a smaller pool of people but their group photos are so unsettling to me 🤣💀
If you ever remembered this family I think they are called the ohana family or something like that specifically Klailea she apparently is going on a mission to Brazil sometime soon so that kind of gave it away that the family is mormon.
I'm really interested in the dynamics of how Brooklyn's new fiance fits in with their family. I read some stuff online about how he comes from a staunchly anti BLM family. And the McKnights have two black children. I don't understand how they could ever welcome a family with that stance into their lives. How do they think this will impact upon their children? Granted I haven't done a ton of digging on this, it's stuff I came across on Twitter. So I wouldn't want to claim this is accurate info or accuse anyone of anything. I watched CGH for the hairstyles probably over a decade ago and now I find them all a bit fascinating, though I wish I didn't 😂
Is it anti blm the organization or anti blm. There is a difference the organization is under investigation for not showing where the money went. I don't care how close to my heart a organization is if they have millions of dollars missing wouldn't trust them for the mission.
@@pamm2652 anti advocating for the rights and equality of Black people. That's what is being claimed online anyway. I have read in multiple places that his dad's Facebook was public up until very recently and that there were some disgusting things on there
I have been following Brooklyn and Bailey since middle school I think. (I was raised Mormon and have since left) Recently Brooklyn said in a Q&A that she and Dakota had tried different types of alcohol and did not like any of them, however, she did say that Bailey had an interesting drunk story. Their younger sister Kamri attends BYU, which honestly makes so much sense. This video is so well done, thank you for all that ya'll do! Congrats on the candle!
I can see Bailey leaving the lds church. She married Asa Howard part of the Duck Dynasty Robertson family. They didn’t have a temple wedding and Asa drinks Alcohol and Bailey had a Pina Colada on a recent cruise.
It’s really interesting hearing your perspective as ex Mormons and I really appreciate that you all essentially gave constructive criticism. You gave credit where it was due but also pointed out really important things! Congrats on the candle collab!
We learned that you can’t throw out all the good (but misled) people with the scummy Mormonism bath water. The Mormon leadership deserves to be shit on; people like this not nearly as much.
Had no idea they were Mormon! I really just liked some of the clothes B&B sell. Honestly, the younger McKnight girls in particular Rylan, radiates badass bisexual energy to me. Had no idea she went to a troubled teen facility! It’s so odd it didn’t work out with Brooklyn and Brooks, seeing as brooks is heavily Mormon (I think he recently got married, some ring by spring vibes). My little spiritual/heathen heart was shocked that Brooklyn suddenly ended up with Dakota. He seems to make her happy but idk something seems off.
I think one of the main reasons they are together is because of their parents urging them to get married at a young age since Bailey is already married.
thank you both for powering through the exhaustion of research of the mormon influencer multiverse to continue to bring us these top quality videos. you guys rock
Being English I had never heard of mormonism before watching CGH. I'm the same age as B&B so practically grew up alongside their content. I genuinely think Asa and Bailey are really cute and the fact that they waited for 4 years to get married I can accept. But Brooklyn, all the videos with Dakota you can see no chemistry - the guy at least on video is so weird and dull, and why is he a 28 year old UNMARRIED mormon - surely that's unheard of in Utah?
@@haileykoger12890 but if he wasn’t Mormon it wouldn’t be odd that he’s dating/marrying a girl with that age range. I understand it’s weird being he is Mormon but take that out of the equation and it’s not uncommon. I have family with a 15+ yeah age range, once you reach a certain age (21/22) it kinda stops mattering
Wth is wrong with y’all? Dakota is camera shy and he made that clear. Dakota is a great guy and if Brooklyn loves him, leave him alone. Stay out of his business!
SO excited for this one. I’ve been following and fascinated by the McKnight family for YEARS. Just started watching the video, can’t wait to watch the whole thing.
Got interrupted trying to watch it which is why I’ve taken so long on the update but I’m almost finished and just wanted to note that Dakota is absolutely Mormon - Brooklyn answered some questions about his mission on IG a few months ago.
I watched them for the hair tutorials in high school as a non-mormon. I kinda forgot about them. Then I discovered the atheist and with that the exmo community. As an ex greek-catholic, I find exmo content weirdly soothing. You talking about this channel kind of unlocked a few memories for me. It also further confirmed that the world is way too small. Anyway, keep up the good work💖
Yep, I'm also a nevermo, but I grew up in an orthodox Quaker family, surrounded by fundies of various denominations. A lot of it feels familiar enough to help with my deconstruction, while being different enough not to be triggering.
Just because they don't openly or privately practice Mormonism, doesn't mean the influence and how the parents were raised or were taught isn't present.
I used to watch and follow Brooklyn and Bailey when I was teenager,but stopped because I felt their content no longer related to me. Another thing that was weird is their content never changed with the eras of their life until now. Also I believe the twins are very co-dependent on each other which explains why they are moving to the same neighborhood, and why they have to everything together. Take into mind this is only a theory and an opinion not fact. Also It’s very deceptive how they promote their religion. Also I remember hearing Rylan disappearing from social media and thought it was very strange.
I feel so cheated by this. I remember finding out years ago that this family was Mormon and I stopped supporting them, but then I realised they dress in a way that clearly shows they don’t wear under garments and that made me start to follow them again. Good to know the rules just don’t apply to people bringing in the dollar!
All of those girls have talked about how much they love Bridgerton, Gossip Girl, and Game of thrones. So the entire guise of “we only watch clean television” is absolutely ridiculous! Lol Also, Brooklyn and Bailey have always been problematic! I remember their videos back around age 16 where they would post their bikini hauls for summer. People would comment all the time saying things like “I thought you were Mormon, why are you wearing a bikini?” They would get upset and respond that “modesty is choice!” And “the church doesn’t tell us what to wear!“ Which is so far from the truth. They would never in a million years let you wear a bikini to a church function like girls camp. We had to wear one pieces with shorts over them. That is standard! Baileys’s husband isn’t Mormon and I don’t think either of them are active. Brooklyns fiancé is Mormon, so it will be interesting to see if they are married in the temple of not. Based on things they have said I really really doubt they will, not that I care. Just pointing that out.
@@BookLover87 I think it was in a relatively recent IG story that she did a 180 and told people that she is not going to talk about whether she is waiting for marriage any more (heavily implying she is no longer waiting).
@@giabarrone7422 that’s a stretch. She never said anything of the sort! She simply said she is tired of people asking her about it constantly, can you blame her? She hasn’t “heavily implied” anything. Share facts, not assumptions.
yesss! i’m excited for this. i remember i started watching them in middle school to learn how to do different hairstyles and i remember when they first made their own channel and i followed them for quite a while- along with other family vloggers and i never really got the issue until i came across josh’s channel. now that i’m 22 and i’m opening my eyes up to this influence culture it’s quite scary what’s being put out for kids on youtube these days.. i’ve never seen any video ever covering this family before so i’m excited
We had the same experience! I’ve been watching them for probably over 10 years! I started watching B&B as soon as they made their channel. I always felt so close to them because we’re like 5 days apart in age! I never seen an issue with them until a couple years ago… something about their family just rubs me the wrong way these days. I wonder if they filmed this video before or after Brooklyn’s recent engagement….
I’d love a follow up if there’s more updates. Kamri who is younger than the twins but older than Rylan goes to BYU. Her outfits are just as revealing but I don’t get how she isn’t breaking honor code
kmart has also publically stated multiple times that she supports the lgbt community and has gay friends (that she’s featured in products she’s sells on lash next door). very not honor code of her lol
I wish they had addressed this as well. I am curious if BYU is more lax now, or if she gets a pass because of the millions her family funnels to the church.
@@giabarrone7422 Her family just funnels a lot of money into the church allowing her to do whatever she wants. Her father went to BYU and is an alumni and they probably have rules for alumni graduating from BYU or any other mormon establishment.
The letter is hysterical but the vitriol his entire family posts about black people is not. I am so disappointed in Brooklyn for putting her desperation to get married above her siblings wellbeing.
About Bailey and Asa: Bailey is mormon while Asa is christian (from the robertson (sadie robertson huff) family), they dated 4 years and said many times that neither likes all about ones religion but the mix brings a healthy belief. They also say they won’t have kids for a while. They also got married by a Christian officiant (Asas cousin/ sadies brother) Brooklyn and Dakota doesn’t seem so healthy to me, very rushed and I feel like it’s very very fast…before dakota Brooklyn was such a free spirit, I hoped she’d travel the world and just live her life but now she’s getting married and will have kids since Dakota is 28 already.
We didn’t address this because we didn’t have enough time and I wasn’t able to find much to confirm it speculation wise. Definitely don’t doubt it. it sounds similar to what 8 Passengers did to Chad.
I was brought here by MSPC, and all I can say is that I admire the relationship you two have - it kind of reminds me of my own. Jordan, the parallels between our stories (minus the LDS angle, I was in a different HDR group, husband is my ex-Mormon litmus test for normalcy even 20 years later), and the care Jordan has for you make me smile. You've got this, and you're both so strong. Keep doing what you're doing.
Anyone remember when they called their children by numbers on camera for security reasons? That time has long passed... Pretty sure the first time I heard about Mormonism was through them. I wasn't even on their channel but those "I am mormon" videos the church had "famous" mormons do. I remember being like 13? maybe and had looked up hair tutorials. I was so confused the first time I looked up what they believed in, since I live in Northern Europe and 99% of the people I knew were Lutheran Protestant, Catholic, Muslim or Atheist. I vividly remember thinking: "apparently Americans are not as bad at building pretty churches as I thought" when seeing a picture of the SLC temple😂 In school we later discussed whether different religions qualified as a cult (I believe we settled on very close but not quite) and people were confused why I knew so much. Little did they know it was because I had once looked up how to do katniss everdeens braid.
I'm from Poland and here we also classyfy Mormos as a cult thats why I was so confused when I found out they are Mormons. I looked up what is that about and than I understood why they are getting married at 22 (with a guy she know 10 montsh long distance) 😅
@@czlowiekbezstronny i think that’s rather discriminatory I’m Mormon and my church experienced has never been cult like. And I get what your saying guys. But Catholism also has rules and not all Catholics fallow them to the T and they call them selfs Catholics. Also there are Catholics that are extremists and even punish them selfs (as the Bible states) and they’re children for not following the rules. So that is not cult like to you? Only Mormonism because it’s different from what you guys are used to? I
@@czlowiekbezstronny When I was little I’d sort of related with Brooklyns and Baileys Church experienced bc mine was always the same as them. In my church nobody got dress coded and It was more of an advise to dress modestly rather than an order. So I’ve always worn outfits according to what a teenager wears. My parents were also never really strict with that. But u do want to say that I’ve experienced LDS (Mormonism) in Mexico, and in Utah in Latino communities and Churches. So maybe the “white side” is more extremist with following rules and such
I'm surprised someone made a video of them, let alone an hour long! there's so much to say about this family that no one touches up on. I used to be such a big fan of CGH and B & B but now that I'm older I'm starting to notice things about them and their family. Thanks for making this video, I've learned a lot of things that I didn't know before. The whole thing with Rylan is just suspicious, the way they sent her away and everything. Brooklyns relationship is also seems like it was forced and they got pushed into getting married especially since Bailey got married and since their twins they wanna do everything together which is weird within itself, also the fact that her mans is a racist???!!! like hello you have 2 black siblings and your gonna get married to a fucking racist like what the fuck Brooklyn.
I have been binge-watching all of y'all's videos lately, thank you for calling out the hypocrisy of all these influencers, particularly their supposed "allyship" *rolls eyes lol
I can imagine how much these videos take and research on these influencers who I haven’t heard of but the uncovering is so important and I love following your journey. Thank you for sharing!
I could listen to you two talk for *hours* (and *have* when bingeing your videos). This is such important work you're doing, helping those who want to break free from the church. So excited for you over the candle collab! 💙💙💙
You guys should do one on ShayCarl and the Shaytards and their family. Probably the most successful Mormon RUclips influencer ever, given that he was one of the founders of Maker Studios, and has they've been open about their Mormonism.
Their story broke my young naive heart 😔 I think Shay cheating and coming out as an alcoholic really made me realize that the internet is fake. I'm still heartbroken for all of the girls in that family... they don't know what they truly deserve
I’ve been watching Brooklyn and Bailey since 2015 and I had no idea they’re Mormon. I almost figured their decision to wait until marriage was more Christianity based or just personal preference. Interesting!
Brooklyn being engaged to a man that has expressed he does not support the BLM movement (same with his family) while having two black siblings....I just worry for those two kids. Edit: also one of his parents posted stuff on Facebook making fun of Michelle Obama calling her a man compared to Melanie Trump so uh-
Even though I was inactive for about 7 years, I was mentally still in the church up until just a couple months ago. I always felt like I wasn't fully and sincerely loving and supporting my friends in the LGBT community because of the church's stance. The longer I was away from the church's direct influence, the more it bothered me. It wasn't what broke my shelf, but it was a huge part of what got me thinking about what I really believe. Now that I lost my faith, I can truly be happy for and supportive of those in the LGBT community because I'm not worried about what "God" thinks of it.
Bailey has answered questions recently about if her husband is Mormon if they are practicing etc. curious to see what you guys have uncovered in researching their family
Congrats on the candle!! Y'all earned it and so glad to see your hard work paying off. Thanks for creating and sharing such insightful content, hope you both have a wonderful week!
MyKayla Skinner (Olympic Silver Medalist) was sponsored by the church recently. I think she would be interesting to do a look into, even if not a full deep dive.
For real 😳 I sometimes watch her videos, but since I found out that she is Mormon and supports the church I don’t like to watch her as much anymore. I feel like since she got married, she is like the Mormon stereotype. Get a lot of kids and that’s it. But I mean she is an Olympic medalist that’s insane 👌🏽
This video was an eye opener. I have been watching Brooklyn and Bailey continuously pretty much my whole life. I was convinced that they were ex Mormons because of the way they had recently changed somewhat. I’ve heard and seen the things said by Dakota and it really sucks because I always thought Brooklyn wouldn’t put up with anything like that.
I strongly think this Brooklyn and Dakota thing is an arranged marriage…… There are just many hints to it….. Brooklyn moving to Utah to “study” but at the same time staying with the family that arranged her 10 dates…. It sounds like matchmaking to me. And then getting engaged soooo fast…. Either is -an urge to imitate her sister -an urge to have sex -a church expectation (pressure) Also want to point out that in the Bailey and Asa’s wedding there weren’t any black people(?) (except for their adoptive siblings) like seeing a lot of white people dressed in white it’s like the beginning of a horror cult movie 🫣
As someone unfortunately from Allen the McKnights actually live in Lucas which is the next town over but both towns are not very notable and I appreciate your condolences
Just started the video so not sure if this was covered but the isolation of their black siblings really breaks my heart. Rylan posted something for Brooklyn's engagement saying Kamri is her only sister that's still only hers - completely isolating Dax and Pais. I grew up watching the channel, Mindy taught me how to braid my hair, and growing up to see right through them was so disappointing Also, on the LDS status of Bailey - she explicitly said in the comments of her wedding vlog that she is an active LDS member and Asa isn't and never will be. They swap churches every weekend. Dakota is 100% Mormon, he served his 2-year mission a few years ago and has spoken about it a couple times in their Q&As
@@nak24 I think it surprised me because Rylan was always treated like an outsider too, she was literally sent away to a reformatory school during the peak of the family's fame. I thought she'd know better than to isolate others like she was
I was so excited to see this pop up in my feed! I’ve been following the McKnights for years and I’ve definitely noticed a shift in their content as Brooklyn and Bailey have gotten older. I’d love to see you guys do a video on Marla Catherine!
I grew up Catholic and found out as an adult I have adhd and ocd. I’m so happy I found you guys to see the weird similarities between the religious rituals and how scrupulosity can just kind of trap you in a way of thinking.
Yes!!! I hope you guys dive deep into the shady things they’ve done. They seem to get away with a lot of stuff and are quick to delete a negative comment
Love y'alls channel. My fiance is not Exmo but definitely jack mormon. I got her one of those exmo candles for Christmas and she loved it. I learn a lot about the underbelly of the church from y'all and I definitely understand why she isn't active in it. We had a run in the other day where someone working with the church emailed her asking to update her records and she basically just tried to politely say she wasn't interested and she got an email back like "IF YOU WANT TO BE ExCoMmUnIcAtEd, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BISHOP!" and it just started a whole thing. Love y'alls insight. Growing up in New Mexico, I was always mormon adjacent, but never knew as much about it as I did watching y'all
Hey! Thanks so much for getting her one of our candles for Christmas! Hearing she liked it made my morning!!! 😀😍🧡 (And confession... I'm not technically exmo either. I still have my name on the church's rolls! 😅)
Brooklyn and Bailey used to dress very modest. I remember watching them in middle school and they would do hauls or swimsuits they love for summer and they would hammer in the fact that they were dressing modest especially the swimsuits
Kids should dress modest. But they aren’t kids anymore. If they were 13 dressing like they were 22 that would be a huge problem, especially with that big of a following. But they’re adults now and their style will reflect that
Have y’all seen the video on Brooklyn and baileys channel with her parents where she asks them both their favorite sex position, or who is more “vanilla” her dad looks so uncomfortable but Miss Mindy is extremely open.
Cute Girls Hairstyles arguably sowed the seeds of my sister’s career as a hairstylist funny enough. Also helped me learn braids for girls camp and big sister duty. Also I’m either the same age or one year older than B&B and I remember thinking (back when I watched them) it was so cool that they were openly Mormon. They did always make me feel bad though because of their picking and choosing, because i wasn’t allowed to do any of that, I didn’t have a choice. In retrospect that was deep envy for people who felt free enough to choose, I felt like I had to be a perfect Mormon that followed all the rules and needed to set an example as the oldest.
I love your Mormon influencer series. So many people I have come across that I didn't realize were Mormon. Also, you guys are awesome. I love that you call out the hypocrisy of Mormonism and religion in general.
Thoughts I have about Brooklyn and Bailey after following them for awhile - they're sweet, cute, and grew up on RUclips. I was interested in the contrast between one married young twin and one single twin in school/furthering their business - this made it still interesting for me to watch. Less interested in another wedding so soon after Bailey's personally. I know Bailey likes filming/RUclips more and Asa doesn't mind/likes it - wonder if they will keep it going while Brooklyn (who has admitted she likes it less) and Dakota (who she says doesn't like filming much) will ramp it down - and good on them if they do. I think it would be tremendously hard to be married to a RUclips personality if you don't like being on camera - that will be something to navigate for them.
I find this series so interesting. I've never been interested in the whole family vlogger thing, but it's crazy how dominated that scene is by mormon families
I think it’s so funny that Brooklyn is now engaged like she was commenting on her tik toks telling ppl not to judge her decision to get married like lol you’ve been w this man 10 months and got engaged shortly after your sister got married ofc ppl are gonna have an opinion . Also their stances on certain subjects are v wishy washy which is interesting considering they have black siblings. Like certain “political opinions” are just a violation of human rights
Omg so excited for this one!! I've seen quite a lot of their videos and the girls seem nice but always wonder how their mormonism influences them & what their family is like.
I’m happy that Paisley and Daxon have a home but the only issue that I see is that I don’t ever see them with other Black people just with white people yes their family is white but they need to interact with Black people just because of culture and just to find yourself in a way and I feel bad that they don’t have those interactions it seems like.. 😕
@@CherryJuliSo many transracial adoptees have said that they grew up with low self esteem and self hatred because they didn't have anyone looking like them. Imagine how isolating that is for a kid. Mindy herself said that Paisley hated her hair because of the racism she experienced at school.
I have learned so much from you two. There has always been so much secrecy around the Mormon church and their practices so of course that has made me very curious as to why. Thank you for bringing their secrets to light.
I remember the absolute CHOKEHOLD that their mom's channel had on Christian-girl hairstyles during the 2010s! 😂 I used to wear out my arms trying to get the perfect dutch braid, half-up-half-down lewk to wear to school/church. With 2010s fashion making a comeback, I wonder if teens are going to start doing the chic-Christian girl braids. I'm pretty sure I still have traction baldness on my hairline from braiding too often
Oh man, thank you both for bringing up modesty. The church pushes it to the extreme and yet they will let their influences “do as they wish” because I feel like they want to continue to get their cut (aka tithing) of the millions of dollars Mormon influencers make. I agree with you Jordan that the influencers lifestyle is a cover up of just how extreme the church really is
I’ve been watching this in bits and the line “he commissioned the first gender neutral bathroom in the Salt Lake City cemetery and he put his name on it” is making me giggle 😆
Ive been waiting for this one. The girls Brooklyn and Bailey absolutely do not wear garments anymore. Brooklyn just got engaged and IDK if he is mormon.
I love this series! Its very interesting to see the degrees of association each influencer maintains with the church, always remembering that even the most "lukewarm" of the bunch contributes in one way or another to the intolerance the church perpetuates
As a never Mormon, at 22 years old I was going out, thinking of life as a possibility and doing therapy... Now I'm 24, single and just managed to restart socializing, finish university as of next semester and next year... Dear god!
This is interesting to watch. I watch Brooklyn and Bailey each time they upload. I’m also Catholic so learning more about another religion is something you all do well in explaining. Also I know these girls say they are Mormon I always wondered if it conflicted based on what they post or in general of what they wear or what they do.
@@shawnadaniels3581 her most recent vacation pictures show her in shirts with low backs, tank tops, etc. I don’t see anything wrong with that but you can’t say she dresses for her garments when her most recent pictures would say otherwise.
@@katherine5797 she blocked me for asking a simple question so I haven't watched her for awhile but she used to dress the typical garment wearing Mormon Mom.
UPDATED 2024 Brooklyn & Bailey video is finally here: ruclips.net/video/kqOqsDMHoHs/видео.html
I am back here to rewatch before the new vid 🙏
pt. 2 please bc brooklyn just got engaged to a man who OPENLY posts "black people just need to learn how to be respectful to the police, police have never done anything racist" and says trump is a literal godsend all over his facebook as does his family, and she has two black siblings. im nauseous.
He sounds like a real winner. 🥴
He’s also 28 and I think b&b are 22.
Oh lord. I feel brooklyn got pressured to get engaged asap because she and dakota have no chemistry whatsoever. Brooklyn and brooks were so much better as a coupl.e
I want to know how yall are finding this because they don't even tag him on insta and have never said his last name
@@feliciacae so?
I live in a major city and saw two missionaries lost near a college campus. They were trying to ask people for help and everyone was blowing them off. A year ago I honestly would have done the same. But watching you guys and hearing your stories over this past year has taught my little atheist heart to have compassion and understand that these young kids were thrust into their situation and are probably so, so scared. I was able to help them on their way and assure them everything would be okay. Thank you guys for enlightening me and bringing understanding to situations that I never would have considered.
Aww, nice ❤
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What drives me crazy about them is as they get older/more successful, they still try to act like they're middle class/relatable. Like girl nobody that's 22 can buy their own house on their own by "hard work" alone. Mommy and Daddy handed you a multi-million dollar career at 13, own up to it. I'm the exact same age as them, also a twin, and have twice the education and work experience as them and I can barely afford an apartment LMAO
OMG PREACH! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 so true!
The thing is, they did make their START that way, but they have more subs than CGH and they speak to a different audience. But its true, they did get a huge boost from CGH
My cousin is 22 and owns a house that she bought with her own money made from when she was 16-22
Twice the Education and we? So you worked since 6? And hot tweo bachelors? 😂
Hmmmm its not necessary to pretend. Its not worth to bragging or show flex their money. I dont think its their type to do that.
Even im wealthy but i don’t need to brag about having expensive car or stuff. I rather to be humble and be comfortable than flexing.
Brooklyn went live on tiktok and was asked if she believes in waiting to have sex after marriage. Over the years she has always stood by waiting for marriage but in this recent live she said, “I don’t feel comfortable answering that. I don’t want my opinion to sway your opinion. So I’m not answering that. Bailey loves talking about sex so you can ask her.”
Hmm. Interesting.
They also did a vlog on how they celebrated their birthdays. Bailey and Asa went to Disneyland and Brooklyn and Dakota went glamping and there was only one bed 😅
And Brooklyn, Dakota and Bailey and Asa moved in together.. not sure if there is 3 bedrooms or if they’re sharing a room…
@@WiseOne. wow I wondered the same thing. Also, she and Dakota travel together as if they’re married.
If they didn’t get married 8 weeks after meeting, they are having premarital sex 😂😂😂
The way I lost it at “Mr. Trump, thank you for standing up for women.” Laughed so hard I scared the dog 😂
I'm guessing you support men pretending to be women.. You're clearly misinformed. Trump is very pro women and pro poc.
Meat-riding a geriatric misogynist like a boss.
If there was ever a part two on this family you should touch upon their sister Rylan - there’s definitely a weird story there. She stopped appearing the the families weekly vlog and it was said she went away to private school for a break from social media (she was supposedly target for bullying for being bigger than her sisters) but there’s evidence that suggests she actually went to an isolated Arizona school for “bad girls” - wondering if her behaviour went against her parents religious beliefs maybe?
Really what evidence is there to support that claim?
I am really curious
@@I.lovepinkk it was for girls with trauma or mental health issues. Look up “the truth about the Mcknight’s.”
On TikTok
@SydneyRutherford Thanks I will do so.
@@sydneyrutherford812 I can’t seem to find it at all
Mindy talked about the racism her kids faced and so did Shaun. Mindy said she was horrified at comments from friends, neighbours etc. Someone said they thought her black babies' skin would be rough and scaly and Paisley, her little black girl, experienced hard times at school for her hair, with which Mindy has helped her to push through and express herself.
Yes! I can’t help but love Mindy. Think she does a great job teaching her kids to advocate for themselves.
@@amandataylor7272 I love Mindy. She’s such a caring and supportive mom.
yeah that is why cross-racial adoptions are very dicy. Why put these innocent already traumatized children into the position that they have to grow up in a racist theocratic state where they experience even more open racism? The US needs to support families more bcs in many cases kids are taken bcs of poverty and its circumstances.
@@amandataylor7272 She may love her child to pieces but there are two sides to this. Why put your child in a community void of diversity. There are practically no black people in the mormon church, to keep that’s not as loving as it may seem. Speaking up and reassuring is one thing, but giving your children the best possible lifestyle is another. That would mean having friends of your own skin tones. Those poor babies when they try to date and cultivate life long friendships with people who were raised to believe that black equals less than. 😢
Why would they think her skin would be rough and scaly?? Esp a baby, their skin is so soft. Does the book of Mormon say black people have rough, scaly skin? This is so weird
I don't understand how she's marrying a guy who comes from an anti-BLM family who, ostensibly, holds the same beliefs when she has siblings who are BLACK!
You’d think her mother would take issue with him and his family.
You people need to leave Dakota alone. Like- get a life bro
@@baddie7470 why are you supporting someone who’s racist and homophobic?
@@baddie7470 if he stops being openly against a whole race of people and leave those people alone, then we'll leave him alone :)
@@baddie7470 maybe you should get one instead of defending strangers on the internet
i’m sure someone else has commented this, but i have a strong feeling that Brooklyn settled for homeboy because Bailey recently got married. y’all these two did EV-ER-Y-THING together! & i’m sure she felt pressured to get married, as well. i’m all for sibling bonds, but you HAVE to become your own person at some point!
i genuinely get anxious for these young women getting married! like, bruh, your brain’s not even fully formed! why you out here committing your life to some frat daddy?! 😬 go explore the world and find yourself, ma’am’s
but also, i hope they’re truly happy! ❤️
Especially as a twin myself, everyone forces that agenda on you that you both have to be the same and do EVERYTHING together (which im sure they did.) It’s so wrong and she should be able to explore and take her time in her relationship.
I don't get the point why they are even building houses in the same neighbourhood. It's like they need to be together all the time? When Bailey got married, I had this feeling that Brooklyn would move it with them because they couldn't live far from each other
Somehow Brooklyn ended up on my TikTok FYP. People were asking in the comments "You've only known him for six months. Why are you getting engaged so fast?" I had to block her because I don't want to give her any additional views.
@@divatesteddivaapproved no she’s known him for over 2 years. They dated for six months privately and then they became public. She’s been dating him for a year.
@@hadleyraquel2029 she either lied in all her videos with him or she’s lying now... but she previously said they started dating in June. It hasn’t been a year yet.
I’m SO glad you brought up Dakota supporting Trump. They’ve deleted every comment about that! It’s important because she has 2 Black siblings. I can’t imagine the looks they’ll get at the wedding. Also, that Trump letter was shared AFTER the attack on the Capitol
And his support against BLM
The family likely supports Trump as would the guests so I doubt anything would happen.
I love the Mcknights but im not a fan of Brooklynn and Dakota and kind of hate how they just ignore his political party. I really hope they aren’t Trump supporters as well for Dax and Paisley’s well being but i can’t help but think they probably don’t care because they share the same views.
What time do they talk about that?
Why it is relevant? I have met some very nice trump supporters, they’re not racist, they don’t spit in my face or think any less of me. Mind you, I’m very visibly Mexican and Native American. Just bc it doesn’t align with what you think is right, doesn’t mean that the whole situation is horrible. What if Dakota is a trump supporter and the McKnight family isnt but they don’t let politics get in the way of things or live people. As long as Dakota is respectful and thinks of her 2 younger siblings the way he thinks of the others, there’s no problem with it. And you won’t ever know that bc you’re not there, so it’s all conspiracy.
McKay saying, "shut the fuck up" while Jordan reads this dude's love note to Trump is hands down my favorite sound bite of all time 🤣🤣🤣
I didn’t grow up in Mormonism, but I did grow up in conservative Evangelical Christianity and I am so thankful for people like you! You both sharing your story and pointing out harmful rhetoric has helped me heal so much💕 Thankful for the community you’ve created!
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE AHHHHH. I’m so excited to hear about this family, as I’ve grown up watching Brooklyn and Bailey and seeing them now evolve from their conservative Mormon roots and make lives for themselves and think for themselves is so interesting and refreshing from seeing a lot of outcomes from other Mormon influencers
Yes same and I always had a weird feeling about them tho
As someone in the process of deconstructing and figuring out my own faith stuff, it's always a breath of fresh air to see you guys on the other side. I'm sure you still deal with a lot of deeply rooted junk that you're working through but it's so encouraging to see you guys living your true authentic selves!
I love you two. Especially the way you glance back and forth to check in with each other throughout each segment.
Thanks for being real!
That trump letter had me dying - stand up for women?! Ha! Congrats on the candle collab, I’m a huge fan of Exmo Candles.
Love watching you guys! I'm an atheist myself so I find the perspectives of people who have experienced intense religious involvement to be fascinating. I appreciate that you talk about the inherent issues in the LDS church without insulting the people who practice - the distinction between problematic ideas and the people who may be fooled into them, is thoughtful.
thank you for covering them!! i think it’s so important to discuss how even the sweetest people who come across so genuine can be harming oppressed communities without even realizing it (maybe)!
I'm not sure about you guys, but I remember being taught as a kid that it was considered being very dishonest to pay tithing on our income AFTER tax. If you didn't pay 10% of your income before tax, it was a sin. Which is RIDICULOUS!
I always thought Brooklyn was a badass who wouldn’t settle for anything, but I think she she’s settling for him. They dated *long distance* for 10 months. He’s 28 so I bet his family is pressuring him to get married and Bailey always talks about sex now so I’m sure Brooklyn is jealous (if she’s still waiting). His family is LDS and his siblings all got married in the temple, so did Mindy and Shaun, so I bet they’ll pressure them to get married in the temple too….. and if they DON’T, everyone will assume it’s because they had premarital sex.
Genuinely curious: did Bailey get married in the temple??
@@chelsean2481 I don't think she did because Asa isn't a member of the church
I followed that family for years and from what I understand Shaun and Mindy would never pressure them. Honestly they seems to have a healthy balance between church gospel and church culture
@@chelsean2481 No, Bailey and Asa are a mixed-faith couple, so no temple wedding. I don't think they would have anyways, as Bailey does not follow most of the "rules" to be "temple worthy".
Brooklyn has heavily implied her and Dakota are sleeping together. The part of this that I find interesting is that Mindy does not seem to approve of this engagement. She has had no kind words or enthusiasm toward Dakaota or the union.
This is by far my favorite influencer videos because I feel they really try to hide their faith from people
I’d definitely be interested in hearing your take on the new wave of “Mormon” influencers that are focused on young couples living what seem like really nice lives (like the Beestons and their BYU Hawaii friends). It seems like something they very much try to not mention but…the vibe is there.
YES PLEASEEEEE
Did not know the Beestons were Mormon!
Bro that entire group of Hawaii Mormon moms scare the living shit out of me lol. They all look so similar and do the exact same dances and like three of the husbands are related??? Like I know it’s a damn island so you’re gonna have a smaller pool of people but their group photos are so unsettling to me 🤣💀
If you ever remembered this family I think they are called the ohana family or something like that specifically Klailea she apparently is going on a mission to Brazil sometime soon so that kind of gave it away that the family is mormon.
Yes!!!!!!!
I'm really interested in the dynamics of how Brooklyn's new fiance fits in with their family. I read some stuff online about how he comes from a staunchly anti BLM family. And the McKnights have two black children. I don't understand how they could ever welcome a family with that stance into their lives. How do they think this will impact upon their children? Granted I haven't done a ton of digging on this, it's stuff I came across on Twitter. So I wouldn't want to claim this is accurate info or accuse anyone of anything.
I watched CGH for the hairstyles probably over a decade ago and now I find them all a bit fascinating, though I wish I didn't 😂
Has dad has a Facebook post calling Michelle Obama a man compared to Melania Trump
@@Kattt2021 he sounds charming 🙄
Is it anti blm the organization or anti blm. There is a difference the organization is under investigation for not showing where the money went. I don't care how close to my heart a organization is if they have millions of dollars missing wouldn't trust them for the mission.
@@pamm2652 anti advocating for the rights and equality of Black people. That's what is being claimed online anyway. I have read in multiple places that his dad's Facebook was public up until very recently and that there were some disgusting things on there
@@Kattt2021 that... are these people sane?
I have been following Brooklyn and Bailey since middle school I think. (I was raised Mormon and have since left) Recently Brooklyn said in a Q&A that she and Dakota had tried different types of alcohol and did not like any of them, however, she did say that Bailey had an interesting drunk story. Their younger sister Kamri attends BYU, which honestly makes so much sense. This video is so well done, thank you for all that ya'll do! Congrats on the candle!
which Q&A?
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What is your profile picture? I see it everywhere
I can see Bailey leaving the lds church. She married Asa Howard part of the Duck Dynasty Robertson family. They didn’t have a temple wedding and Asa drinks Alcohol and Bailey had a Pina Colada on a recent cruise.
Scandalous! 👀
what is the duck dinasty? sorry not from the US
Baileys also talked about her getting drunk in a video she did with her parents who didn’t like that haha
@@vale25rojas99 Fundi Fridays has a video on them if I remember correctly. Or was it illuminaughty? Or both?
@@sisuguillam5109 Fundie Fridays has a great video on Duck Dynasty.
It’s really interesting hearing your perspective as ex Mormons and I really appreciate that you all essentially gave constructive criticism. You gave credit where it was due but also pointed out really important things! Congrats on the candle collab!
We learned that you can’t throw out all the good (but misled) people with the scummy Mormonism bath water. The Mormon leadership deserves to be shit on; people like this not nearly as much.
@@JordanandMcKay listen- you cant go and talk shit about Mormonism, sure you may not support it, but some people do and you need to think about that
@@baddie7470 I don’t think you’re understanding what exactly we are getting at with this entire channel.
@@JordanandMcKay dang, I just looked at your videos and- your channel is extremely disrespectful
@@baddie7470 you may not understand Mormonism.
i just wanna say that watching y'all while in a depressive episode and crocheting a rug is perfect.
love y'all :)
Had no idea they were Mormon! I really just liked some of the clothes B&B sell. Honestly, the younger McKnight girls in particular Rylan, radiates badass bisexual energy to me. Had no idea she went to a troubled teen facility!
It’s so odd it didn’t work out with Brooklyn and Brooks, seeing as brooks is heavily Mormon (I think he recently got married, some ring by spring vibes). My little spiritual/heathen heart was shocked that Brooklyn suddenly ended up with Dakota. He seems to make her happy but idk something seems off.
she went to a troubled teen facility??? was that the reason she was gone for like a year? where did you hear this and why was she sent there?
I think one of the main reasons they are together is because of their parents urging them to get married at a young age since Bailey is already married.
@@nicoleskorupsky1007 you THINK. You don't know
Probably went there cos she prolly is actually bi lol
ik omg rylan radiates such bi energy
thank you both for powering through the exhaustion of research of the mormon influencer multiverse to continue to bring us these top quality videos. you guys rock
Being English I had never heard of mormonism before watching CGH. I'm the same age as B&B so practically grew up alongside their content. I genuinely think Asa and Bailey are really cute and the fact that they waited for 4 years to get married I can accept. But Brooklyn, all the videos with Dakota you can see no chemistry - the guy at least on video is so weird and dull, and why is he a 28 year old UNMARRIED mormon - surely that's unheard of in Utah?
🚩28 y/o Mormons that aren’t married are sus
@@Marlee_G that has nothing to do with the fact that he’s 28, Mormon and no Mormon girl wanted him? So he’s goes after a 21 year old
@@haileykoger12890 but if he wasn’t Mormon it wouldn’t be odd that he’s dating/marrying a girl with that age range. I understand it’s weird being he is Mormon but take that out of the equation and it’s not uncommon. I have family with a 15+ yeah age range, once you reach a certain age (21/22) it kinda stops mattering
Wth is wrong with y’all? Dakota is camera shy and he made that clear. Dakota is a great guy and if Brooklyn loves him, leave him alone. Stay out of his business!
@@haileykoger12890 My parents have a 8-9 year range between their ages. Do you have a problem with that?? Brooklyn chose him.
SO excited for this one. I’ve been following and fascinated by the McKnight family for YEARS. Just started watching the video, can’t wait to watch the whole thing.
Got interrupted trying to watch it which is why I’ve taken so long on the update but I’m almost finished and just wanted to note that Dakota is absolutely Mormon - Brooklyn answered some questions about his mission on IG a few months ago.
I watched them for the hair tutorials in high school as a non-mormon. I kinda forgot about them. Then I discovered the atheist and with that the exmo community. As an ex greek-catholic, I find exmo content weirdly soothing. You talking about this channel kind of unlocked a few memories for me. It also further confirmed that the world is way too small.
Anyway, keep up the good work💖
Yep, I'm also a nevermo, but I grew up in an orthodox Quaker family, surrounded by fundies of various denominations. A lot of it feels familiar enough to help with my deconstruction, while being different enough not to be triggering.
Brooklyn and Bailey, in recent years, have talked about how they have different beliefs, so either one or both of them don’t practice Mormonism.
Just because they don't openly or privately practice Mormonism, doesn't mean the influence and how the parents were raised or were taught isn't present.
I used to watch and follow Brooklyn and Bailey when I was teenager,but stopped because I felt their content no longer related to me. Another thing that was weird is their content never changed with the eras of their life until now. Also I believe the twins are very co-dependent on each other which explains why they are moving to the same neighborhood, and why they have to everything together. Take into mind this is only a theory and an opinion not fact. Also It’s very deceptive how they promote their religion. Also I remember hearing Rylan disappearing from social media and thought it was very strange.
They have the b&b instagram but they have separate accounts but they’re private
@@harryhoranlouis ok thank you I was unaware that they had separate private Instagrams
I feel so cheated by this. I remember finding out years ago that this family was Mormon and I stopped supporting them, but then I realised they dress in a way that clearly shows they don’t wear under garments and that made me start to follow them again. Good to know the rules just don’t apply to people bringing in the dollar!
All of those girls have talked about how much they love Bridgerton, Gossip Girl, and Game of thrones. So the entire guise of “we only watch clean television” is absolutely ridiculous! Lol
Also, Brooklyn and Bailey have always been problematic! I remember their videos back around age 16 where they would post their bikini hauls for summer. People would comment all the time saying things like “I thought you were Mormon, why are you wearing a bikini?” They would get upset and respond that “modesty is choice!” And “the church doesn’t tell us what to wear!“ Which is so far from the truth. They would never in a million years let you wear a bikini to a church function like girls camp. We had to wear one pieces with shorts over them. That is standard!
Baileys’s husband isn’t Mormon and I don’t think either of them are active. Brooklyns fiancé is Mormon, so it will be interesting to see if they are married in the temple of not. Based on things they have said I really really doubt they will, not that I care. Just pointing that out.
Brooklyn has heavily implied they are sleeping together, which makes them ineligible for a temple wedding, although I doubt they want one anyways.
@@giabarrone7422 really? When??
@@BookLover87 I think it was in a relatively recent IG story that she did a 180 and told people that she is not going to talk about whether she is waiting for marriage any more (heavily implying she is no longer waiting).
@@giabarrone7422 what, really? I must have missed that
@@giabarrone7422 that’s a stretch. She never said anything of the sort! She simply said she is tired of people asking her about it constantly, can you blame her? She hasn’t “heavily implied” anything. Share facts, not assumptions.
yesss! i’m excited for this. i remember i started watching them in middle school to learn how to do different hairstyles and i remember when they first made their own channel and i followed them for quite a while- along with other family vloggers and i never really got the issue until i came across josh’s channel. now that i’m 22 and i’m opening my eyes up to this influence culture it’s quite scary what’s being put out for kids on youtube these days.. i’ve never seen any video ever covering this family before so i’m excited
We had the same experience! I’ve been watching them for probably over 10 years! I started watching B&B as soon as they made their channel. I always felt so close to them because we’re like 5 days apart in age! I never seen an issue with them until a couple years ago… something about their family just rubs me the wrong way these days. I wonder if they filmed this video before or after Brooklyn’s recent engagement….
I agree. Something about this family just rubs me the wrong way! My “gut instincts “ just scream that lots of things w/ them is really off.
I’d love a follow up if there’s more updates. Kamri who is younger than the twins but older than Rylan goes to BYU. Her outfits are just as revealing but I don’t get how she isn’t breaking honor code
kmart has also publically stated multiple times that she supports the lgbt community and has gay friends (that she’s featured in products she’s sells on lash next door). very not honor code of her lol
I wish they had addressed this as well. I am curious if BYU is more lax now, or if she gets a pass because of the millions her family funnels to the church.
@@maryjaneberrys kmart 🤣
@@giabarrone7422 my bet is the money part. Religion let's a lot go if you have the almighty dollar
@@giabarrone7422
Her family just funnels a lot of money into the church allowing her to do whatever she wants. Her father went to BYU and is an alumni and they probably have rules for alumni graduating from BYU or any other mormon establishment.
The letter to Trump is hysterical. Thanks guys.
I managed to hold it together until the letter said Trump was the hardest-working president.
The "supporting women" thing had me cracking up 🤣
The letter is hysterical but the vitriol his entire family posts about black people is not. I am so disappointed in Brooklyn for putting her desperation to get married above her siblings wellbeing.
About Bailey and Asa: Bailey is mormon while Asa is christian (from the robertson (sadie robertson huff) family), they dated 4 years and said many times that neither likes all about ones religion but the mix brings a healthy belief. They also say they won’t have kids for a while. They also got married by a Christian officiant (Asas cousin/ sadies brother)
Brooklyn and Dakota doesn’t seem so healthy to me, very rushed and I feel like it’s very very fast…before dakota Brooklyn was such a free spirit, I hoped she’d travel the world and just live her life but now she’s getting married and will have kids since Dakota is 28 already.
I'll be forever grateful for Jordan helping me make sure the passing of my mother wasn't baptized by the mormon church
I am glad we could make sure that didn’t happen ❤️
As a Jew I want to do this too. I tried to Google it but couldn’t find anything. Would you be interested in making a video?
As a never-mo, it's so interesting to hear all of the thoughts and stories! Keep it up, love you guys.
Scrolling the comments and seeing this I was like wtf when did I comment 😂😂 love to see another Anna G
I hope they talk about how the McKnights sent their daughter away to a behavioral camp and pretended she was at boarding school
that's what happened to rylan????
We didn’t address this because we didn’t have enough time and I wasn’t able to find much to confirm it speculation wise. Definitely don’t doubt it. it sounds similar to what 8 Passengers did to Chad.
I thought the story was she was staying Mindy’s brother outside Las Vegas?
I was brought here by MSPC, and all I can say is that I admire the relationship you two have - it kind of reminds me of my own. Jordan, the parallels between our stories (minus the LDS angle, I was in a different HDR group, husband is my ex-Mormon litmus test for normalcy even 20 years later), and the care Jordan has for you make me smile. You've got this, and you're both so strong. Keep doing what you're doing.
Anyone remember when they called their children by numbers on camera for security reasons? That time has long passed...
Pretty sure the first time I heard about Mormonism was through them. I wasn't even on their channel but those "I am mormon" videos the church had "famous" mormons do. I remember being like 13? maybe and had looked up hair tutorials. I was so confused the first time I looked up what they believed in, since I live in Northern Europe and 99% of the people I knew were Lutheran Protestant, Catholic, Muslim or Atheist. I vividly remember thinking: "apparently Americans are not as bad at building pretty churches as I thought" when seeing a picture of the SLC temple😂
In school we later discussed whether different religions qualified as a cult (I believe we settled on very close but not quite) and people were confused why I knew so much. Little did they know it was because I had once looked up how to do katniss everdeens braid.
I found them through the same hairstyle!
I'm from Poland and here we also classyfy Mormos as a cult thats why I was so confused when I found out they are Mormons. I looked up what is that about and than I understood why they are getting married at 22 (with a guy she know 10 montsh long distance) 😅
@@czlowiekbezstronny i think that’s rather discriminatory I’m Mormon and my church experienced has never been cult like. And I get what your saying guys. But Catholism also has rules and not all Catholics fallow them to the T and they call them selfs Catholics. Also there are Catholics that are extremists and even punish them selfs (as the Bible states) and they’re children for not following the rules. So that is not cult like to you? Only Mormonism because it’s different from what you guys are used to? I
@@czlowiekbezstronny When I was little I’d sort of related with Brooklyns and Baileys Church experienced bc mine was always the same as them. In my church nobody got dress coded and It was more of an advise to dress modestly rather than an order. So I’ve always worn outfits according to what a teenager wears. My parents were also never really strict with that. But u do want to say that I’ve experienced LDS (Mormonism) in Mexico, and in Utah in Latino communities and Churches. So maybe the “white side” is more extremist with following rules and such
I'm surprised someone made a video of them, let alone an hour long! there's so much to say about this family that no one touches up on. I used to be such a big fan of CGH and B & B but now that I'm older I'm starting to notice things about them and their family. Thanks for making this video, I've learned a lot of things that I didn't know before. The whole thing with Rylan is just suspicious, the way they sent her away and everything. Brooklyns relationship is also seems like it was forced and they got pushed into getting married especially since Bailey got married and since their twins they wanna do everything together which is weird within itself, also the fact that her mans is a racist???!!! like hello you have 2 black siblings and your gonna get married to a fucking racist like what the fuck Brooklyn.
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Dakota is racist???
@@cynthiaromero5719 I never heard of that, I'm very curious too
Brooklyns made some comments like “real sisters” and “blood sisters” so I wouldn’t be surprised is she herself was racist.
yeah i didnt realise a lot of these things when I was younger and basically grew up alongside their channels as the twins are similar age to me
I have been binge-watching all of y'all's videos lately, thank you for calling out the hypocrisy of all these influencers, particularly their supposed "allyship" *rolls eyes lol
That part where he thanked Trump for standing up for women 😂😂😂
I can imagine how much these videos take and research on these influencers who I haven’t heard of but the uncovering is so important and I love following your journey. Thank you for sharing!
I could listen to you two talk for *hours* (and *have* when bingeing your videos). This is such important work you're doing, helping those who want to break free from the church.
So excited for you over the candle collab! 💙💙💙
Aw!! You are so kind! Thank you 💖
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You guys should do one on ShayCarl and the Shaytards and their family. Probably the most successful Mormon RUclips influencer ever, given that he was one of the founders of Maker Studios, and has they've been open about their Mormonism.
and the downfall and subsequent forgiveness that Collette gave him after his infidelity
The Mormon ones who started it all! We probably will!
YESSS PLEASE DO I loved them when I was younger i watched them literally every day
They literally made family vlogging popular!
Their story broke my young naive heart 😔 I think Shay cheating and coming out as an alcoholic really made me realize that the internet is fake. I'm still heartbroken for all of the girls in that family... they don't know what they truly deserve
I’ve been watching Brooklyn and Bailey since 2015 and I had no idea they’re Mormon. I almost figured their decision to wait until marriage was more Christianity based or just personal preference. Interesting!
Brooklyn being engaged to a man that has expressed he does not support the BLM movement (same with his family) while having two black siblings....I just worry for those two kids.
Edit: also one of his parents posted stuff on Facebook making fun of Michelle Obama calling her a man compared to Melanie Trump so uh-
Exactly! That isn’t an “agree to disagree” topic.
@@Kattt2021 well put!
This dude sounds like a real winner. 🥴 Mega yikes.
Ooof. Sounds like a catch! Lol jk
Even though I was inactive for about 7 years, I was mentally still in the church up until just a couple months ago. I always felt like I wasn't fully and sincerely loving and supporting my friends in the LGBT community because of the church's stance. The longer I was away from the church's direct influence, the more it bothered me. It wasn't what broke my shelf, but it was a huge part of what got me thinking about what I really believe. Now that I lost my faith, I can truly be happy for and supportive of those in the LGBT community because I'm not worried about what "God" thinks of it.
Bailey has answered questions recently about if her husband is Mormon if they are practicing etc. curious to see what you guys have uncovered in researching their family
Congrats on the candle!! Y'all earned it and so glad to see your hard work paying off. Thanks for creating and sharing such insightful content, hope you both have a wonderful week!
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MyKayla Skinner (Olympic Silver Medalist) was sponsored by the church recently. I think she would be interesting to do a look into, even if not a full deep dive.
I would love to know more too. She has a lot of controversial stuff especially when it comes to racist comments and other things like that
Omg yes please do this one
For real 😳 I sometimes watch her videos, but since I found out that she is Mormon and supports the church I don’t like to watch her as much anymore. I feel like since she got married, she is like the Mormon stereotype. Get a lot of kids and that’s it. But I mean she is an Olympic medalist that’s insane 👌🏽
McKay: “Non-heteronormativity”
My brain: “Non-hemorrhoid activity”
LMAO
This video was an eye opener. I have been watching Brooklyn and Bailey continuously pretty much my whole life. I was convinced that they were ex Mormons because of the way they had recently changed somewhat. I’ve heard and seen the things said by Dakota and it really sucks because I always thought Brooklyn wouldn’t put up with anything like that.
Didn’t they also get a tat?🤣
@@rue.eudoxie yes lol
I strongly think this Brooklyn and Dakota thing is an arranged marriage……
There are just many hints to it…..
Brooklyn moving to Utah to “study” but at the same time staying with the family that arranged her 10 dates…. It sounds like matchmaking to me.
And then getting engaged soooo fast….
Either is
-an urge to imitate her sister
-an urge to have sex
-a church expectation (pressure)
Also want to point out that in the Bailey and Asa’s wedding there weren’t any black people(?) (except for their adoptive siblings) like seeing a lot of white people dressed in white it’s like the beginning of a horror cult movie 🫣
Every guest was in white. Wtf does that to their own wedding. Is this some tradition or something? Creeps me the fuck out.
As someone unfortunately from Allen the McKnights actually live in Lucas which is the next town over but both towns are not very notable and I appreciate your condolences
Omg 😂
Just started the video so not sure if this was covered but the isolation of their black siblings really breaks my heart. Rylan posted something for Brooklyn's engagement saying Kamri is her only sister that's still only hers - completely isolating Dax and Pais. I grew up watching the channel, Mindy taught me how to braid my hair, and growing up to see right through them was so disappointing
Also, on the LDS status of Bailey - she explicitly said in the comments of her wedding vlog that she is an active LDS member and Asa isn't and never will be. They swap churches every weekend.
Dakota is 100% Mormon, he served his 2-year mission a few years ago and has spoken about it a couple times in their Q&As
Rylan's comment was not surprising to me. The four older girls are always together while Daxton and Paisley are left out.
@@nak24 I think it surprised me because Rylan was always treated like an outsider too, she was literally sent away to a reformatory school during the peak of the family's fame. I thought she'd know better than to isolate others like she was
@@nak24 maybe its bc theyre much younger
I was so excited to see this pop up in my feed! I’ve been following the McKnights for years and I’ve definitely noticed a shift in their content as Brooklyn and Bailey have gotten older. I’d love to see you guys do a video on Marla Catherine!
marla is so interesting
me too! i’d love to see that or the seven henry’s in general (her families channel)
yess do one on Marla pls! Also the ohana adventure! They’re another Mormon family channel
omg yes id love to see that
Yessss pls!! Big agree!!
I grew up Catholic and found out as an adult I have adhd and ocd. I’m so happy I found you guys to see the weird similarities between the religious rituals and how scrupulosity can just kind of trap you in a way of thinking.
Yes!!! I hope you guys dive deep into the shady things they’ve done. They seem to get away with a lot of stuff and are quick to delete a negative comment
Jeez, the love letter to Trump made my day 😂 "thank you for standing up for women" 😂 well... only to grab 'em by the 🐈⬛️
That letter to Trumps proves you can be indoctrinated into 2 cults at once!
The way you mentioned Brooklyn getting ring sponsorships and I checked their IG and she posted one TODAY! 😭😭😂
Mckay should absolutely get a crop top! Im firmly of the belief everyone looks cute in a crop top 💕🌟
This whole time, I had no idea that Jordan and McKay had a dog! It's a really cute pupper!
I appreciate all your research and the time you dedicated to making this video 😊 Would love a part 2 if possible!
Love y'alls channel. My fiance is not Exmo but definitely jack mormon. I got her one of those exmo candles for Christmas and she loved it. I learn a lot about the underbelly of the church from y'all and I definitely understand why she isn't active in it. We had a run in the other day where someone working with the church emailed her asking to update her records and she basically just tried to politely say she wasn't interested and she got an email back like "IF YOU WANT TO BE ExCoMmUnIcAtEd, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BISHOP!" and it just started a whole thing. Love y'alls insight. Growing up in New Mexico, I was always mormon adjacent, but never knew as much about it as I did watching y'all
Hey! Thanks so much for getting her one of our candles for Christmas! Hearing she liked it made my morning!!! 😀😍🧡 (And confession... I'm not technically exmo either. I still have my name on the church's rolls! 😅)
I think everyone can appreciate exmo candles!
@@theexmocandleco.6528 It was the great and spacious Gingerbread house. She loved it very much. I got the Recommend buster for myself
@@Breakstop Nice! 😀🧡
Brooklyn and Bailey used to dress very modest. I remember watching them in middle school and they would do hauls or swimsuits they love for summer and they would hammer in the fact that they were dressing modest especially the swimsuits
Kids should dress modest. But they aren’t kids anymore. If they were 13 dressing like they were 22 that would be a huge problem, especially with that big of a following. But they’re adults now and their style will reflect that
@@LavenousForever sure. Im just saying i'm the exact age they are and when we were kids I remember thinking they dressed like grandmas sometimes
Have y’all seen the video on Brooklyn and baileys channel with her parents where she asks them both their favorite sex position, or who is more “vanilla” her dad looks so uncomfortable but Miss Mindy is extremely open.
Cute Girls Hairstyles arguably sowed the seeds of my sister’s career as a hairstylist funny enough. Also helped me learn braids for girls camp and big sister duty. Also I’m either the same age or one year older than B&B and I remember thinking (back when I watched them) it was so cool that they were openly Mormon. They did always make me feel bad though because of their picking and choosing, because i wasn’t allowed to do any of that, I didn’t have a choice. In retrospect that was deep envy for people who felt free enough to choose, I felt like I had to be a perfect Mormon that followed all the rules and needed to set an example as the oldest.
Showed up for the cutes hairstyles, stayed for the content
I love your Mormon influencer series. So many people I have come across that I didn't realize were Mormon. Also, you guys are awesome. I love that you call out the hypocrisy of Mormonism and religion in general.
OMG. I was so obsessed with them growing up I did not know they were mormon
I remember them briefly, but didn’t know they were Mormon.
THAT WAS ME!! I joined the church without really knowing what I was getting into.
Thoughts I have about Brooklyn and Bailey after following them for awhile - they're sweet, cute, and grew up on RUclips. I was interested in the contrast between one married young twin and one single twin in school/furthering their business - this made it still interesting for me to watch. Less interested in another wedding so soon after Bailey's personally. I know Bailey likes filming/RUclips more and Asa doesn't mind/likes it - wonder if they will keep it going while Brooklyn (who has admitted she likes it less) and Dakota (who she says doesn't like filming much) will ramp it down - and good on them if they do. I think it would be tremendously hard to be married to a RUclips personality if you don't like being on camera - that will be something to navigate for them.
I find this series so interesting. I've never been interested in the whole family vlogger thing, but it's crazy how dominated that scene is by mormon families
Seriously
I think it’s so funny that Brooklyn is now engaged like she was commenting on her tik toks telling ppl not to judge her decision to get married like lol you’ve been w this man 10 months and got engaged shortly after your sister got married ofc ppl are gonna have an opinion . Also their stances on certain subjects are v wishy washy which is interesting considering they have black siblings. Like certain “political opinions” are just a violation of human rights
Omg so excited for this one!! I've seen quite a lot of their videos and the girls seem nice but always wonder how their mormonism influences them & what their family is like.
@@Ucerrrzcb939 yeah he always gave me weird vibes and I didn’t know why. Guess that explains it! 😬
I’m happy that Paisley and Daxon have a home but the only issue that I see is that I don’t ever see them with other Black people just with white people yes their family is white but they need to interact with Black people just because of culture and just to find yourself in a way and I feel bad that they don’t have those interactions it seems like.. 😕
Culture is learned. It doesn’t come with skincolor. Their culture is the American Mormon culture.
@@CherryJuliSo many transracial adoptees have said that they grew up with low self esteem and self hatred because they didn't have anyone looking like them. Imagine how isolating that is for a kid. Mindy herself said that Paisley hated her hair because of the racism she experienced at school.
LOLLL I’m living for Jordan talking about Bethy’s obsession with talking about her wedding…that fundiesnark crossover 🙏
I have learned so much from you two. There has always been so much secrecy around the Mormon church and their practices so of course that has made me very curious as to why. Thank you for bringing their secrets to light.
I remember the absolute CHOKEHOLD that their mom's channel had on Christian-girl hairstyles during the 2010s! 😂 I used to wear out my arms trying to get the perfect dutch braid, half-up-half-down lewk to wear to school/church. With 2010s fashion making a comeback, I wonder if teens are going to start doing the chic-Christian girl braids. I'm pretty sure I still have traction baldness on my hairline from braiding too often
I want a My Favorite Murder crossover where McKay shouts "IT GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP!"
Oh man, thank you both for bringing up modesty. The church pushes it to the extreme and yet they will let their influences “do as they wish” because I feel like they want to continue to get their cut (aka tithing) of the millions of dollars Mormon influencers make.
I agree with you Jordan that the influencers lifestyle is a cover up of just how extreme the church really is
I’ve been watching this in bits and the line
“he commissioned the first gender neutral bathroom in the Salt Lake City cemetery and he put his name on it” is making me giggle 😆
V proud of that joke
Ive been waiting for this one. The girls Brooklyn and Bailey absolutely do not wear garments anymore. Brooklyn just got engaged and IDK if he is mormon.
Brooklyns fiancé Dakota is Mormon.
Yo i got this vid recommended, looked them up to see what's new and the first thing I see is Brooklyns Pregnancy Reveal!
I love this series! Its very interesting to see the degrees of association each influencer maintains with the church, always remembering that even the most "lukewarm" of the bunch contributes in one way or another to the intolerance the church perpetuates
Never knew they were mormon. Used to watch their hair tutorials so much as a kid
As a never Mormon, at 22 years old I was going out, thinking of life as a possibility and doing therapy... Now I'm 24, single and just managed to restart socializing, finish university as of next semester and next year... Dear god!
They really do know how to straddle a fence but Brooklyn’s choice of fiancé is pretty telling
This is interesting to watch. I watch Brooklyn and Bailey each time they upload. I’m also Catholic so learning more about another religion is something you all do well in explaining. Also I know these girls say they are Mormon I always wondered if it conflicted based on what they post or in general of what they wear or what they do.
I’m catholic too !
McKay, I honestly super like how long your hair is getting. It looks amazing on you, dude!
Thanks! ☺️
I just want to find one mormon influencer who dresses like they wear their garmies.
Lol right! The ones that do are definitely in the minority.
Bonnie Hollein...
@@shawnadaniels3581 her most recent vacation pictures show her in shirts with low backs, tank tops, etc. I don’t see anything wrong with that but you can’t say she dresses for her garments when her most recent pictures would say otherwise.
@@katherine5797 she blocked me for asking a simple question so I haven't watched her for awhile but she used to dress the typical garment wearing Mormon Mom.