Muay Thai for Self Defense (Real Life Examples Shown) | WEST LA MUAY THAI
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In this video I answer one of the commonly asked questions about Muay Thai:
'Can you use for Muay Thai for Self-Defense?'
Yes...?
Using security camera footage from our old location, I breakdown confrontations that I've had in the last couple of years and how I used Muay Thai techniques and strategies to defend myself.
Disclaimer: All information found in this video is for entertainment purposes. I am not a lawyer, nor self defense expert. If you are in serious trouble, please seek out immediate help with the appropriate authorities.
Stay safe y'all.
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De-escalation is probably the highest value self defense technique/set of techniques a person can learn. Most regular people don't want to fight and even when they are extremely angry. If we choose our words carefully we can often de-escalate the situation without physical violence. The people who actually want to fight are usually pretty easy to spot, they often don't speak much and words usually won't work well with them. The people screaming and whatnot usually are like a small dog barking. Some basic techniques I've learned for basic de-escalation are:
1) avoid the use of the word "you". some people will get defensive just by using "you"
2) avoid direct use of the word "no"
3) in general use a more "yes and" vs "no but" type approach. even if they say some absurd/crazy/aggressive stuff you could say something like "ah, okay, right on. lets step out here" or whatever.
4) if it looks like a fight is actually going to happen or they are more than just verbally agro, use open hands and try to keep the palms visible to them until the aggression actually starts. if there are cameras without audio that alone could save someone from a criminal charge should a fight actually break out.
agreed!
i love how calm and collected this guy is. extremely smart man for sure.
thank you 🤝
Expertly and humanely handled. There are so many people out there who seem to be waiting for an excuse or opportunity to use violence or a weapon in "self defence".
Totally agree about the power of body language. I worked in mental hospitals - remaining calm and not reacting to agression (which is often a cover for fear) with more aggression gets you out of 99% of situations.
Thank you for watching and appreciate the kind words. Agreed that many people want an excuse to 'show them what they got' and some of the reactions to this video seem disappointed that there wasn't any of that. I've learned that reactive behavior usually leads to consequences... better to let things blow over versus getting ego involved.
Awesome content brutha! As a law enforcement defensive tactics and firearms instructor (plus a muay thai coach and practitioner myself) I absolutely love and respect your thoughts on both self defense and sport fighting! Definitely crazy situations, I'm glad you're safe! Always learning from all experiences truly!
Thank you so much for the feedback and appreciate you watching. 🙏
💯 I have a similar background and current job. Definitely has been helpful on the job.
Sensei Vik! Man, it's crazy to me because in Texas public intoxication is against the law, and so is trespassing. You are blessed that these people did not have weapons nor were really violent. Kind of a scary location. Glad you were safe and moved!
Yes very fortunate that situations didn't escalate. I do believe all those things are illegal here in CA (especially trespassing on private property) but we are sort of left to fend for ourself. The video demonstrate a sliver of a bigger issue and I really feel for those (both employees and business owners) who have been in these situations and ended up being victimized.
Bro doesn’t understand that laws tend to be universal across states 🤣🤣
lol...There is no law without self discipline. And enforcement of the law. These people would not just be wondering in like that in Texas man... not for long.
@@thaiboxinginstitutetrespassing for a public business requires police to issue a trespassing notice if they return theyll be attested
Nice to see you again Vik we trained together years ago in Muay Thai academy of North Hollywood. El matador!!
Leonel, what's up!!!
7:20 It’s actually the “fight, flight, freeze or fawn” response. Women are really good at fawning.. it’s the best “stay alive” strategy we can use with a hostile man. Not because a woman isn’t aggressively reacting, yelling for help or fighting back does it mean she’s not in a dangerous situation.
Problem with fawning is it can be interpreted as approval or consent
I think your overall deescalation approach is the right way to go. You’re not challenging the attacker but at the same time you’re not backing down. Most importantly, you just seem like a nice genuine guy. The downfall of getting overly aggressive is that these guys can always come back later.
yup. they will come back for sure 😮💨
Informative, humble and competent
Thank you 🙏
My guy is every example of what a true martial artist is , kinda and humble but deadly
Gotta have a certain level of idiocy to go to a combat sport gym starting trouble. The self reflection of location had me dying.
it's baffling and hindsight is 20/20 😅
That first guy had to have been trolling with those Kung Fu hand movements😂💀
you don't see this attitude often anymore. I applaud you for knowing the difference between self defense and ego fighting. 👌
Hey- Thank you for this and appreciate you watching!
Aye foo, no shoes on the mat
ankle sock activites
Dont smoke skante kids
serio @@stevep3584
Great job Coach Vic. I am a retired police sergeant from a municipal agency in Palm Beach County Florida. I was a defensive tactics instructor, expandable baton instructor, Taser instructor, firearms instructor, and chemical, weapons instructor I’ve trained martial arts since 1983:2 styles of kung fu, 2 styles of tae kwon do, Krav Maga,, Muay Thai, and Haganah. Your instruction regarding how to manage those situations was spot on. Also, your perspective regarding how to perform during violent encounters is also spot on. A skilled operator just goes to work to achieve the objective. There’s no place for emotions and taking the attackers actions as a personal affront. Train professionals try to remain emotionally, detached, and focus on achieving the desired outcome. I learned that in law-enforcement and reinforced it through Krav Maga. Thank you for the way you gave your advice regarding Krav Maga. Krav Maga offers a great deal of value in perspective of violent encounters, and things to keep in mind before, and after a violent encounter. Krav Maga works best as an addition to those who have a great deal of training and experience already in more traditional martial arts. Sense much of the focus of Krav Maga is responding to an attack with detailed combatives, many students can get so focused on the details that they believe the effectiveness is found in specific execution of those details instead of being a strong effective fighter.
Nevertheless, good advice and keep doing what you’re doing in your service to the community, good instructors, and good schools are difficult to find.
thank you sir, appreciate the feedback and appreciate the view. 👊
I appreciate all your content brother. It’s really helped me on my Muay Thai journey.
Glad I can help, appreciate the support and kind words Christian 🙏
Nerves of steel! I’d want to act like this Vik but not biting on the bait those guys were putting out. It would have been hard you gotta admit.
Of course everyone in the reel comments have been calling me out for not doing hurting them and that lizard part of my brain that directed much of my life agrees with them but the rational, logical part of my brain sees no reason with assaulting people. Besides, even if those videos did exist, it would be soooo dumb for me to post them, lol.
Muay Thai is self defense, not just a combat sport, so is boxing and kickboxing
Yes
barged looking like Denzel “ok ok alright…its just a prank”
i’m looking to get some twins gear! any tips on how to source it in the us?? ;)
(amazing video as always by the way)
Hey Pat! Thank you for watching. easiest way is to message the shops in BKK through LINE or Whatsapp and mail order. I go through actionzone. You can get their whole line of gear. Good luck!
You're so soft spoken for just a brutal warrior! They should make a street fighter character based on you
Hey- Thanks 😁
To chip in on the legal definition of self defence-
1. Force used to defend self must be reasonable and proportionate to the threat
2. What is considered "reasonable and proportionate" is assessed based on what a hypothetical reasonable person in the same situation would do, not based on what you personally think is reasonable and proportionate. But it allows for nuance if you're in 'fake' danger which looks real at the time, like the guy pretending to assault you for a 'prank', if you treated it as a serious threat and ended up whupping his ass.
3. Most importantly - self defence is a legal defence to assault/GBH/manslaughter etc. In order to plead self defence, you are saying "yes, I admit that I hurt someone with violence which is a crime to do in normal circumstances, but I should not be punished for it because I was defending myself and it was reasonable for me to do so and I used reasonable force". It means that if you are unsuccessful in claiming that what you did was self defence, you have by default pled guilty to assault/whatever and will have to face the consequences for that.
4. Pre-emptive self defence is a thing and you're not expected to wait for the other guy to hit you first if it's obvious they're going to attack you - but obviously, it's often a harder thing to justify if it's not unambiguously clear (e.g. you having it all on video the guy dojo storming you and coming at you even after you've backed up and asked him if he's sure he wants to do this)
5. The court usually takes it into account if you have combat training or experience, so if you hurt someone more than you you need to you're more likely than the average untrained guy to get into trouble for it, and more likely to be penalised more harshly because they expect you to know better and have better self control.
Appreciate the well thought out response
thanks for the detailed vid + the bravery to open up about your own scary run ins with dangerous situations
Thank you for watching!
for sure :D@@thaiboxinginstitute
yes lad, love seeing your vids in the sub box
Thank you man!
Coach Vik! Miss you man, can’t wait to go back to TBI.
🙏🙏🙏
Nice video, Coach Vik! FWIW, I teach a couple miles from you and we have very similar problems with homeless people. The number of crazy / addicted homeless in the area is just astounding --and, for whatever reason, martial arts attract crazy people like flies to honey.
Hey Perry! Thanks for watching, sorry to hear you have the same issue too. It’s kinda weird that this sort of stuff is left to us (the citizens) to police. I hope nothing drastic has happened and you and all your members are safe. Grateful for martial arts that have taught us reason and control. stay safe ossss
Great tips Coach Vik! 👌🏼
Thank you for watching!!
No. dude i think its just LA , In Florida, an MMA gym is situated near a liquor store, yet they never encounter issues. People simply purchase beers and then either return home or enjoy a BBQ.
Bro is NOT losing any aura on these level 1 thugs💀💀💀
😅
My Goju Ryu karate teacher always said when you use it on the street and its not selfdevense....... he gives you a beating you will remember all your like. He had a big school and a lot of students , nobody did it ...... only his son made that mistake and got a beating plus from one band down ( from black belt to brown belt 3k ) plus a year no examen to get back. So everbody was warend.
I was at home one day, searching the internet for a Muay Thai boxing class in my area inland empire California. Yours had to be, as far as appearence, the most authentic looking Muay Thai academy. But your classes are too far, being in Los Angeles. I live in Beaumont California. Plus I am a over-the-road truck driver. So I don't even know if I can actually sign up for classes anyway. But I do want to get in shape and learn how to fight in the process 💯
damn dude, not a whole lot out there in Beaumont and TBI is way too far. wishing the best man and appreciate the comment 🫡
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I have one question, if I were able to join a Thai boxing gym, how much would it cost give or take to go to a class any day of the week, but I pay for the entire month?
@@brotherlogicrmf2199 hmm- it sounds like you want to buy a package of drop ins. pricing depends on area and cost of living. average price to try a class out is $20 but some places will do a free trial. I would guess in your area drops in will prob cost around that much whereas the average rate for any fitness class in my area (west LA) is 40-50 dollars.
Did you do ju jitsunwith jo rogan?
alongside him during that era yes
I just started muay thai 3 hours a day 5 days a week been at it 4 weeks now when should i start sparring. I dont want to get injured to soon . I want to learn the basic and how to protect myself properly. Should i try after 3 to 6 months muay thai is very demanding i do some kick boxing in between also .
we let people spar after a month of training but have you tried asking your coach what they think?
Man, if you ever decide to leave California.. come to fort Worth TX lol
The guy who came in with a prank should be locked up.
I would have called the cops.
I’m sure krav mgar (not sure how it’s spelt) Is illegal to use and to be taught
definitely too dangerous for sport
You didn't use the regular advice of simply running away for self defense like so many world champion keyboard warriors now did you? ;p
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It's not a prank if you step on the mats with your dirty trainers
I train in BJJ and MuayThai and wingchun but I also legally carry a firearm and pepper spray and a tactical knife with a first aid kit because you never know when someone will want to kill you instead of trying to fight you
Yo Joe Rambo. Datti una calmata sbruffone americano
Why do i feel like this is fake for videos… like whats goes through peoples heads coming to a Muay Thai boxing place randomly to try to fight you. I highly doubt random people just come to the door trying to fight it just doesn’t make sense.
Nothing about me or what I do is fake lol. Simply put, sometimes truth is stranger than fiction. Appreciate the view and stay safe out there!
You’d be surprised. There are tons of videos of random people thinking they can beat up people at martial arts gyms. Look up videos of people challenging boxing coaches. It happens way more often than you would think. A lot of guys walk around thinking that they’re the baddest men on the planet and can take on anyone. Those kinds of guys see a gym and think of it as a challenge.
Muay Thai is pretty useless in real life id suggest something useful like Karate
did you ever train karate or muay thai to say this?
TERRIBLE. CHOICES THS PPL ARE MAKING W/ THS. PRANKS... SILLY.
I know right :/
Nothing like liberal cities.
Nobody:
An American: US internal politics
Gotta blame the "liberal city" not the individual, sheesh.
No problem - blame the liberals, liberal city, liberal politicians, and every moron who voted to legalize drugs. LA didn't become a shit hole magically. @@Duane-tl2zc
Politics is why drug addicts can terrorize business owners and civilized people with no consequences - especially in Los Angeles. Let me guess, you're from Europe? Lmao you should not be talking. @@Ryan30z
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Plus, you never know if somebody has a knife or something on them.
100%- some of these folks have absolutely nothing to lose.
Click bait
How so?