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Bluetti AC180 - Anker C1000 - EcoFlow Delta 2 - HEAD TO HEAD! Which one WINS?!

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  • Опубликовано: 17 авг 2024

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  • @Jasonoid
    @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +8

    These are the BEST prices of the season, make sure you act now if you are on the fence about buying one of these units!
    1st Place Winner: You can purchase the Bluetti AC180 HERE:
    Amazon: amzn.to/3XUae9J
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    2nd Place: You can purchase the EcoFlow Delta 2 HERE:
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    3rd Place: You can purchase the Anker C1000 HERE:
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    *The use of affiliate links provide a small commission for me when you use them. Thanks for supporting my channel content and allowing me to do future comparison videos! More videos coming soon!

  • @adriftatlas
    @adriftatlas Месяц назад +6

    Bluetti has been doing a really good job with making their power stations quiet.

  • @jaimietollison7722
    @jaimietollison7722 14 дней назад +1

    I've been going back and forth between the Bluetti and the EcoFlow and your explanation made it so clear. I'm not at all tech savvy but I understood your info much better than other videos I've watched. Thanks

  • @jwfox54
    @jwfox54 Месяц назад +12

    Thanks for this very helpful comparison.

  • @stedyone1090
    @stedyone1090 Месяц назад +11

    That's why I own 2 AC180s.
    Thanks for sharing 👍

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад

      Good to hear! What do you use your units for?

    • @genuinetuffguy1854
      @genuinetuffguy1854 10 дней назад +1

      I own 3 AC 180’s. One serves as a UPS for Audio-Video entertainment equipment, another as a UPS for computer equipment, and the third one as UPS backup power for our outside full size fridge and a Dometic dual zone fridge/freezer.

  • @heart4Pahoa
    @heart4Pahoa Месяц назад +17

    I agree that the Bluetti is the clear winner based on your testing criteria, the EcoFlow unit battery expansion can connect to the 2KWh battery giving it a max capacity of 3KWh. That makes the EcoFlow option a lot more attractive in this class of units for a consumer like me.

  • @scotth9984
    @scotth9984 Месяц назад +6

    Was looking to possibly buy my sister one of these for Florida living, for use during a power outage. this is one of the best side by sides I have seen, great job thanks

    • @knorrissirronk8665
      @knorrissirronk8665 Месяц назад +3

      She's going to love it. No Brainerd setup & maintenance. I use 1 for my photo PC & monitor, while the other AC180 backs up our modem, routers, & peripherals.

    • @scotth9984
      @scotth9984 Месяц назад

      @@knorrissirronk8665 nice, and possibly fridge for short period of time.

    • @knorrissirronk8665
      @knorrissirronk8665 Месяц назад

      @scotth9984 YES! We have a BougeRV powered fridge/freezer and Bluetti solar panels to keep the solar units topped-off until the night.

  • @johntate5284
    @johntate5284 Месяц назад +5

    Have both the AC180 and the Delta 2 which i got bundled with the alternator charger. Bluetti also has the AC200MAX for $1099, which is a very good deal also. It's a great time to be in the market for one of these power stations. I remember over two years ago paying $599 for my Bluetti EB70! Great review and summary of all the features in one nice chart!

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +2

      Have you looked at the EB70 recently, it's still super expensive @ $370. I feel bad for anyone that buys that model now with that price when with $100 more you can get so much more!

    • @00-Chris
      @00-Chris Месяц назад

      @@Jasonoid I have a feeling, that the EB70 was even louder 😂

  • @Kantuski
    @Kantuski Месяц назад +2

    Perfect timing! I have the AC180 and the Delta2, comparing them alongside the Anker is excellent. It confirms my decision to add another AC180 to my stable, Thank you.

  • @juliusgovia4841
    @juliusgovia4841 День назад +1

    Thx to this video I made up my mind about which one works best for me. Got two bluetti ac180 now

  • @FrostyTheBeerMan
    @FrostyTheBeerMan 5 дней назад

    Gotta say this is prob ⚠the best comparison video between these models ! and.. u chose the correct ones to compare ! Thank you.

  • @knorrissirronk8665
    @knorrissirronk8665 Месяц назад +5

    I have (2) of the Bluetti AC180s and love them. But I seem to recall that of the 3, the AC180 was the only one that failed your UPS test during one of your retries in your original AC180 review. (I could be wrong...) considering how low you measured the cutover time to be, do you have any ideas for why that might have been? Most importantly, THANK YOU for continuing to do these Solar station reviews, Jason!

  • @jamesd7448
    @jamesd7448 6 дней назад

    I got an AC180 and have a bit of buyer's remorse because it just weighs so much more than the others. 35 lbs for the Bluetti vs 27 lbs for the Ecoflow. I just assumed everything in this capacity and inverter range would all weigh the same, maybe a pound or 2 difference but 8 lbs?! It's a 25% difference! For using around the house or camping it maybe doesn't matter much. For using as a UPS, the cutover time and quietness of the AC180 is going to be worth the extra weight. That's not how I'm using mine though.
    I got to run power tools without running cords every week doing yard work I lug it around with a makeshift shoulder strap to do yardwork with my plug-in tools. Granted that's probably not a typical use case. I think those 8 extra pounds are making a pretty big difference. Well, at least it might toughen me up a bit, we'll see if it gets easier.

  • @michaeltroiano5705
    @michaeltroiano5705 Месяц назад +1

    Fantastic review, thank you so much. The only thing I'd add... the Bluetti does come in around 10lbs heavier than the other two, so it really comes down to your mobility requirements, whether the incremental performance is worth the additional weight. Thanks again, super helpful.

    • @souettequinn2404
      @souettequinn2404 Месяц назад

      Thank you for that input. Being older with a few mobility/stamina issues...weight of the products is a deciding factor for me.

  • @Michelle-bw1xg
    @Michelle-bw1xg Месяц назад +1

    Thanks for the in depth comparison, right up my alley. AC180 is my 1st power station, 1 of possibly 2 intended for my minivan camper "build" (not used yet). The quieter fan is a plus. I'd rather have 1 or 2 of this size that I can lift more easily for charging than a 55-60 lb. beast. Prices are incredible. If one misses the sale, waiting for the next one seems a wise choice.

  • @litnoregrets7551
    @litnoregrets7551 Месяц назад +4

    Loved this comparison. I have been thinking I needed a medium size unit and was leaning towards the Bluetti or EcoFlow. My next step was to go back you your old videos to ensure I had not forgotten anything, then this video popped up. This was very concise and hit the points I needed reminders on. So, perfect timing on this video. I was already leaning towards Bluetti and after watching, I am convinced. BTW, I love EcoFlow power stations, but in this situation, Bluetti wins. Thanks Jason. Now I need to decide if a medium is big enough or do I move up to the AC200L, but then I would need to compare it to the Delta 2 Max. Hahaha. I am stuck in a vicious cycle.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +4

      That's quite the cycle to be stuck in! I will say right now is when the prices are lowest for the entire year so if you want one of these, now is the time to buy.

    • @litnoregrets7551
      @litnoregrets7551 Месяц назад +1

      @@Jasonoid Thank you for the advice. Hopefully I will have an AC200L or AC180 in a week or so.

  • @terrysparger1979
    @terrysparger1979 Месяц назад +3

    Enjoy the videos. Very thorough comparisons. Thanks!

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @jimmyj5099
    @jimmyj5099 Месяц назад +4

    So is there any way to measure internal watt usage? I'm pretty sure the Bluetti uses 15 watts by just turning on. So if my 12v refrigerator used 50 watts the Bluetti would actually be using 65 watts. Just something to think about. Supposedly the Jackery has no internal watt usage. I know I know you didn't test the Jackery but I just thought I would bring internal watt usage into your score sheet. If it can be measured or discovered somehow.

  • @user-ot9lj6vz7k
    @user-ot9lj6vz7k Месяц назад +4

    Thanks! really helpfull...one thing I would add to my personal choise; Wifi and/or bluetooth. The Bluetti doesnt have Wifi, so no app control remotely.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +2

      That's another thing to consider! Thanks for bringing that up.

  • @damonried1720
    @damonried1720 Месяц назад +2

    I think you owe the Anker three points. 1) Does the unit have a light? 2) Does that light have various brightness levels? 3) Dose that light have an S.O.S. mode?
    Jokes aside, great review. This is great for first time buyers. I think those who have invested in a particular will stay with that brand, regardless of performance results.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +3

      Amen brotha 🤣👍 fan boys will be fan boys haha

  • @captaincurt3180
    @captaincurt3180 Месяц назад +1

    Jason, as always you did a great job of digging down into the features of all three of these units. I perused your grading sheet after watching your livestream video and I came up with an idea for a future project. It seems none of the power stations that you reviewed in the 500-1000 WH range really checked all the boxes (and I agree they should). So, maybe you can search for an affordable power station that scores higher on your grading system in the middle, camping-sweet-spot range of 500 to 1000 WH. By now the manufacturers surely must have read the memo!

  • @gojeffgordon24
    @gojeffgordon24 Месяц назад +2

    Nice to see I bought the winner. Honestly haven't put it to a test yet. That will come in the fall when I'm helping at some outdoor events.

  • @thomasmills1150
    @thomasmills1150 Месяц назад +2

    There is a huge difference in the apps between the Anker and the Ecoflow. The Ecoflow will let you set a "Backup Reserve" limit. When set, it will only let you draw Solar, and then when it hits the reserve will start drawing from grid. At that point, for a while, it draws both AC and solar. I would love to know if the Bluetti has such a control in the app.
    Also if you like a lot of AC outlets, the Anker has six 3 prong plugs. The Ecoflow has 6 AC but only 2 are 3 prong, the others are 2 prong.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +1

      The Ecoflow app is probably the best, but the other two apps also work very well. When compared to 'budget power stations' these apps are WAY better!

  • @davelee9791
    @davelee9791 18 дней назад

    The Ecoflow Alternator charger is a game changer for those on the move..

  • @jrherita
    @jrherita Месяц назад +3

    The UPS mode numbers are interesting. In North America you just need 16.6 ms to be within one tick, and 33.3ms for two ticks. Most computer power supplies won’t have a problem with missing two blinks unless under very heavy load.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +4

      During my testing the EcoFlow and Anker systems shut off my desktop workstation 2 or three times each. It's hard to record the cutover time as it's so fast my oscilliscope doesn't catch it all the time. I never had an issue with the Bluetti shutting off my desktop. The lower the time the better.

    • @jrherita
      @jrherita Месяц назад +1

      @@Jasonoid perfect example - thank you! I use a Ecoflow River 2 as a UPS for my home server and infrastructure, never fails. But I have read the Deltas are slower to switch over. Thanks for this detailed review!

  • @jkp2042
    @jkp2042 13 дней назад

    Thank you Jason for this very good/excellent comparison video.

  • @guydemers7607
    @guydemers7607 Месяц назад +1

    thanks for the test, not surprising bluetti comes out on top. still waiting for alternator charging though.

  • @RamblinBobReviews
    @RamblinBobReviews Месяц назад +2

    All 3 of these are nice systems.
    We like the Bluetti AC180 the most of these 3 power stations :)
    P.S. Bluetti has really nice power stations and has really upped their game over the last couple of years :)

  • @AlphaZuluPhotography
    @AlphaZuluPhotography Месяц назад +1

    The Ecoflow wins for me due to the expansion ability plus the amazing Alternator charger that allows you to fast charge while driving. I can charge my Delta 2 in about an hour or so of driving compared to 10 hours on the car adapter. No need for solar panels anymore.

  • @ghunt9146
    @ghunt9146 Месяц назад +2

    Physical size & weight are also a considerations for me. Excellent comparison, thanks.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад

      That's another great way to compare these. They are fairly similar but the Anker C1000 is the most compact model.

  • @mojorider8455
    @mojorider8455 Месяц назад +2

    I have the AC180, nice unit for mid size. I also have a Delta 2 Max and they seem to have less fan noise than the Delta 2

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад

      The Delta 2 Max has upgraded fans that are much more quiet than the Delta 2. The Delta 2 launched first and they quickly realized how much people hate loud fans. Once they launched the Delta 2 Max they were able to put better fans in it.

  • @NoZenith
    @NoZenith Месяц назад +1

    Although I've already bought my Delta 2 max, I'm still curious, so thanks for content like this. people are starting to come to me looking for a direction and i stay curious.

  • @FrostyTheBeerMan
    @FrostyTheBeerMan 5 дней назад +1

    Great video ! Thank you. One thing you didn't go into which I wish you had, was where you were talking about the UPS component.... did you test that computer in the video with all 3 to see if each one had a fast enough switch over time to keep the computer running ? or did all of them shut off. If the Bluetti has a super low switch over time of what you said, 8 milliseconds, then it should be within the safe range to keep a PC powered on and not shut off like it would with other models with slower switch over speeds. EDIT: I should have mentioned that all of these power banks would have been plugged into AC power.... and the computer plugged into the power bank, then U unplug from the wall and see which ones keep the computer running ( assuming you can power a device while the battery banks are plugged into AC power ( the wall )

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  4 дня назад +1

      For the most part the UPS modes work decently. I tested each one in depth on their individual reviews. You can see that performance in those videos. The Bluetti is definitely the fastest.

    • @FrostyTheBeerMan
      @FrostyTheBeerMan 4 дня назад

      @@Jasonoid Hi ! Thanks for the reply ! I appreciate it. Ok, great info, I''m going to go check those reviews out. I'm sold on the Bluetti, an amazing little work of wonder isn't it ! I wish we had these things 20 years ago ! Thanks again !

  • @michelleevans9869
    @michelleevans9869 Месяц назад +1

    Really nice overview. Going with the BLUETTI

  • @texture6
    @texture6 Месяц назад +1

    I bought the Delta 2 @ Amazon currently for $499 total $535 out the door. Plan to expand the capability with the Delta 2 Max for a total of 3kw

  • @nur_noch_elektrisch7429
    @nur_noch_elektrisch7429 Месяц назад +8

    Ecoflow Delta 2 supports also the Delta 2 Max extra smart battery with 2.048 Wh for a total of 3.072 Wh.

    • @KatysCampKitchen
      @KatysCampKitchen Месяц назад +1

      Great comparison video! I really liked this video with the head to head format. Super Helpful!

  • @dianem.1310
    @dianem.1310 Месяц назад

    Thanks for posting the Amazon discount code. That just gave me another $60 off of the Prime Day price!!!

  • @rnewell252369
    @rnewell252369 Месяц назад +9

    Bluetti is the rolls-royce of power stations. I own many different kinds and still love all of my Bluetti stations even the older versions.

    • @BigStipowski
      @BigStipowski Месяц назад +4

      But I've never had good luck with their customer service...

    • @00-Chris
      @00-Chris Месяц назад

      @@rnewell252369 I had them all, Jackery, Bluetti, EcoFlow, Anker -> in this order, and it always was an improvement. Anker is way more efficient and more accurate in its display, and it’s got the best solar input.

    • @jampam-jf8mt
      @jampam-jf8mt Месяц назад

      What about Ugreen, DJI and Yoshino?

    • @TheNature101
      @TheNature101 Месяц назад +4

      IMO, Bluetti a rolls-royce is not. That title goes to Ecoflow.

    • @Johnny-qe7xf
      @Johnny-qe7xf Месяц назад +1

      I’ve had both I prefer EcoFlow

  • @colossalmindb.t.s.8755
    @colossalmindb.t.s.8755 Месяц назад +1

    Just bought the Delta 2, on sale for prime day for less than $600

  • @jamespruett2849
    @jamespruett2849 Месяц назад +1

    Jason I watch a few tech channels your the best,I would go with the Bluetti,I have the EB 150 and ac200p they have never let me down

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад

      Thank you! That means a lot!

  • @scoobydew420
    @scoobydew420 Месяц назад

    I have an AC180 and just received a c1000. Something that wasn't discussed here, was the size/weight since these are designed as portable power stations.
    Anker is noticeably lighter and a smaller footprint. I never seen the ecoflow in person to compare to.

  • @mashmout
    @mashmout Месяц назад +2

    Timely review. I'm hooked on the anker c1000 however. Appreciate the video.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +2

      I love how compact the C1000 is. It also has the best solar input out of these three!

    • @butchie2752
      @butchie2752 Месяц назад

      @@JasonoidI bought the 200 watt panel to go with. Since it’s prime day I’m thinking of adding a second 200 watt panel.
      Think it’s worth it? Thanks.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +2

      @@butchie2752 having 400 watts of solar is great for this size of power station. You can never have enough solar.

    • @butchie2752
      @butchie2752 Месяц назад +1

      @@Jasonoid that’s what I thought too. Btw instead of their extender, for the same price, I bought a separate sine wave inverter a 100 amp lpo
      Battery, and a charger. I figured that in a long term grid down I’d have separate system if the Anker broke. They acknowledged I could charge the Anker with this and the inverter. A little more bulky but…Thanks for your prompt reply.

  • @ringoklassen
    @ringoklassen Месяц назад

    Thanks for the video. I got a Bluetti AC180 for a sump pump backup. Your video confirms that it was a good choice. The AC180 is also light years ahead of the lead acid sump pump backup options currently on the market.

    • @Sylvan_dB
      @Sylvan_dB Месяц назад

      If the A.C. output of the Bluetti turns off (perhaps due to overload or running out of battery) will it turn back on automatically? (i.e. retry the heavy load or when the input A.C. returns) My Delta 2 Max will not, and that is really annoying behavior for a UPS!

  • @jw3843
    @jw3843 Месяц назад +1

    Great video comparison. Nice to see someone doing one. I know I like my ac180. I won mine, so I got really lucky on that one.

  • @mattssacre
    @mattssacre 11 дней назад +2

    @jasonoid I like your reviews, but I think this one is wrong. It looks like you specifically made it so that the Bluetti would win. You include wireless charging in your chart, but no spot for a light. The Anker's light is actually useful. I think you should have shown the percentage of usable battery compared to stated capacity in the form of percentage as well as max usable capacity. It's what every other reviewer does to be fair. It's good to show both numbers. Since you're not exactly comparing Apples to Apples, you should have mentioned that the Bluetti is 30% larger in size and 25% heavier in your chart. It's unfair that it receives the positives of being bigger (more capacity) but none of the negatives in your chart. Another thing you missed, is the Anker c1000 has Ultra fast charging at 1300-1400 watts. After using all three of these power station's for 12v fridges, the Anker outlasted both the others. It has a very low power usage when idling. I had all three, and I would say the Bluetti was the worst of them. I would take either the Anker or Ecoflow anytime before the Bluetti. Anker > Ecoflow > Bluetti. I'm no fanboy, I own products from all these manufacturers, but after real world usage, the Anker is easily the best.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  9 дней назад

      I've had many more people on the channel as about wireless charging vs lights.
      The Anker C1000x has fast charging, the C1000 (the one in the video) doesn't support fast charging unfortunately.

    • @mattssacre
      @mattssacre 9 дней назад +1

      @@Jasonoid Valid points, I did forget that mine is in fact a C1000X. Like I said, I've watched a lot of your videos and you do a great job. Thanks for all your work! I would add though, for popular uses for these batteries: blackouts, emergency and over-landing, camping, the usefulness of the light can't be understated (not useless like Jackery). Most the guys I camp and OL with prefer a light over wireless charging. Wireless charging isn't very efficient, makes your phone hot (more wear), and is generally slow. Just because a feature was requested, doesn't mean you skip mentioning other valid features of the competition. I also don't understand the reasoning for not mentioning weight and size. Both matter and are very typical in item comparisons.
      I will also add that Bluetti's customer service is absolute trash. Ive deal with 3 different branches, Bluetti Amazon, Bluetti direct (Vegas), and Maxoak. They are all terrible. They don't connect to each other and take weeks to respond and/or warranty repair/replacements. When Bluetti replaced 3 of solar panels under warranty, they somehow sent me someone else's defective panels. I know they were defective because they had a piece of tape with the voltage and amperage stating why they were returned. Took them another month to get me new ones as I had to wait until they received the defective ones they sent me. Not long after, they placed my AC200P because it had already lost 30% capacity in less than a years use. Ecoflow, is kind of 1 for 2. They replaced a bad solar charge cable for free, but told me to return my solar panel to Costco when it started putting out half wattage for no reason. That might be a deal they worked out with Costco so I'm not sure, but seems lazy. I've only had one experience with Anker, where they replaced my 737 powerbank after I sent a video and answered some questions. Took less than a week for them to mail. I'm sure all of them may have issue.

  • @rcguymike
    @rcguymike Месяц назад +2

    You can use a Delta 2 Max battery with the delta 2 for ~3kWhs total

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +2

      I like how the EcoFlow power stations have all the devices they are compatible with with the XT150 port!

  • @AskIveSolar
    @AskIveSolar Месяц назад +1

    Dang that ac180 has always caught my eye! But I like the form factor of the Anker but Anker seems to still be finding their way a bit with power stations. Just a feeling I get.
    That ac180 would be sweet in my living room zone since it has wifi now.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +2

      The Anker is pretty small, but I think those fans would drive you nuts.

    • @AskIveSolar
      @AskIveSolar Месяц назад +1

      Ahh dang. You right! Lol. Good call

  • @nwlady1844
    @nwlady1844 Месяц назад +1

    Excellent video!! thank you! I have bluetti and ecoflow. I favor ecoflows app... able to modify more settings... car... 4, 6, 8a. AC charging.... 200 to 900w by 50w increments for the river 2 pro. high and low - charge and discharge limits. And other options. Bluetti does have a couple of options for rate of recharge but not nearly as versatile as ecoflow. Bluetti has a variable upper charge limit (I believe) but not a lower limit. So.... ecoflow definitely get a big point for app options.... which is pretty important.. at least to me. I hope bluetti catches up on this as I do prefer bluetti products. Also, seems like ecoflow has more trouble with installing upgrades on their units.. and seem to require "recalibration" more often than bluetti. So ...on my "list" bluetti gets a point. Excellent video!!

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +1

      Great feedback! Thank you for breaking all that information down.

  • @netsai61
    @netsai61 15 дней назад

    I believe you did Anker a disservice choosing the C1000 instead of the f1200 or f1500 . Which competes well with the bluetti AC180 . The eco flow delta 2 is now showing its age 😢, still some fight left though 😅.

  • @Kamodomon
    @Kamodomon Месяц назад

    Yeah, I always felt like Bluetti was the winner in this category of battery stations outside of portability.

  • @chicagochris1988
    @chicagochris1988 Месяц назад

    I’ve always used ecoflow and this comparison doesn’t really change my mind at all. I’ve had zero issues with my ecoflow

  • @trackntrail2869
    @trackntrail2869 Месяц назад +2

    The EcoFlow Delta 2 can be had for under $500 out the door on Amazon right now!

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +3

      The price war is real! Glad to see them fighting for the consumer's purchase! Thanks for sharing 👍

    • @souettequinn2404
      @souettequinn2404 Месяц назад +1

      $411 + taxes was $449.20 out the door! I've been watching videos for 6 months now to decide. This fell in my budget and I'm so happy.

  • @pinakmiku4999
    @pinakmiku4999 23 дня назад

    If you compare the power efficiency, Anker comes out on top. Also, I don’t understand why would you do dual charging? If AC is there, you always go for that isn’t it?

  • @f.w.1318
    @f.w.1318 26 дней назад +1

    I’m curious how the PECRON E1500LFP Expandable Portable Power Station 2200W 1536Wh would compare against these units.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  26 дней назад

      You can compare them head to head on my power station grading sheet 👍 the Pecron has a larger inverter and larger battery. It also takes in a little more solar.

  • @davidtindell950
    @davidtindell950 26 дней назад +1

    thank you!

  • @utahiker
    @utahiker Месяц назад

    I love my ac180. Great to see how it compared to other similarly priced power stations.

  • @user--PM
    @user--PM Месяц назад +4

    9:20 if the price is the same the winner goes to who has the highest wh battery - bluetti
    2:50 bluetti wins sound test for me
    7:15 bluetti wins again by prioritizing DC charging
    7:57 unfortunately for those that want to have an expansion battery option, bluetti looses here

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +1

      Excellent breakdown of these main points and their time stamps! Thanks PM

    • @YouLookinAtMe-Bro
      @YouLookinAtMe-Bro День назад

      I'd still take the Bluetti and just get another complete unit... especially for the price of those expansion batteries.
      Always have a complete unit on standby or charging while using the other.

  • @alanklein1791
    @alanklein1791 Месяц назад

    I prefer Ecoflow, I 've had a fantastic experience with them.

  • @DV-tc1yr
    @DV-tc1yr 22 дня назад

    I have the delta 2 max and love it! just bought an additional battery for it.

  • @ferrarista27
    @ferrarista27 Месяц назад

    I already have a Bluetti EB3A which I like very much as it is very portable. I'm going to get an AC180 next as I think it is the best bang for the buck. The only thing missing is an expansion plug. Don't know why they decided not to put one since all the competing brands have it in this category. They did come out with the AC180T with swappable batteries, but it is heavier and more expensive. Still, looking at how an expansion battery cost as much as the power station, I prefer buying a second AC180 so you have better flexibility to run stuff around the house and not use extension cords. If you add the Delta 2 + Delta 2 max expansion battery price, you can almost get 3x AC180. You also have the option to use a 12v 100ah lifepo4 battery with a voltage booster to take advantage of the solar port and put in 500w into the power station. Sure it is not the same as having a dedicated expansion battery, but it is much cheaper in price.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +1

      All good thoughts here. You'll have to decide what option is the best for you.

  • @utubetjc
    @utubetjc Месяц назад

    Great analysis. I have two Delta 2's with extra batteries. For trips to the cabin, they serve me well. Amazon has the Delta 2 for $499 now!

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад

      That's an amazing price! They are really making these more competitive each day.

  • @larrybelton5489
    @larrybelton5489 Месяц назад

    This is a really good comparison , I bought a delta 2 because eventually I’m gonna get me a wave 2 air conditioner

  • @kw3674
    @kw3674 Месяц назад

    Great review! Very helpful. Thank you!

  • @rodlewis3544
    @rodlewis3544 Месяц назад

    Exactly the comparison i have been looking for - thank you

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +1

      Glad to see my timing was good. These prices are the best of the year so make sure to take advantage.

  • @Sylvan_dB
    @Sylvan_dB Месяц назад

    The Delta 2 can accept a 2kw battery for 3kw capacity - the expansion battery for the Delta 2 Max is also supported on the Delta 2.
    I'm pretty sure the Delta 2 can dual charge. It should be a setting in the app as it is for the 2 Max.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад

      I tested for this video, the Delta 2 cannot dual charge.

  • @stuartstuart866
    @stuartstuart866 Месяц назад +1

    I like the extra power and layout of the Bluetti, but the EcoFlow seems to have a better reliability reputation….. at least that’s the impression I get reading various forums.

    • @practicalguy973
      @practicalguy973 Месяц назад +1

      That's a big thing when looking at the cost factor. Some brands are less reliable electronically and even within those brands some specific models have more common failures. Pays to do some research on owner forums and reviews from multiple sources. For any electronics I find that the reviews found on the manufacturer websites or the jungle site have most people with little to no experience providing 5 star reviews with very little time of ownership promoting something as a great product when its not really been put through real world usage.

  • @magnusenamd
    @magnusenamd 22 дня назад

    Only the sound level determines the choice here. But you didn't include what they weigh? The brand I've been recommending for years won hands down.

  • @JoeDplummer_
    @JoeDplummer_ Месяц назад +1

    This was a great comparison !!! ... I will give an extra two points to the Anker for the very handy light bar and the compact size.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +1

      Those are nice features too! The C1000 is definitely the smallest option.

  • @i_LOVE_solar
    @i_LOVE_solar Месяц назад +2

    It's good to see all these competitive prices! Hmmmmmmm, I'd probably go with the EcoFlow Delta 2 since it's compatible with their new alternator charger..... I just wish they would change out those FANS! Arrrggghhh they are so loud!

    • @JeremiahTownsend
      @JeremiahTownsend Месяц назад +2

      Pecron has an alternator charger that is 500w vs 800w, cheaper, and compatible with any battery.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +2

      Yeah, those two units are an apple to oranges comparison. The Ecoflow is premium and does tons of other stuff like the bidirectional charging and boost your starter battery if it's dead. The Pecron is just for charging power stations. They both have their use cases.

    • @Michelle-bw1xg
      @Michelle-bw1xg Месяц назад +1

      Enjoyed this comment, have the AC180 but definitely interested in learning about the alternator charger topic for my minivan build, may add 1 more power station and this gives pause to learn more before purchase.

  • @vvtv4565
    @vvtv4565 Месяц назад +1

    Is there a difference in terms of ease of use between the 3 brands? Which is the easiest for those who are new to solar generators?

  • @mwsebastian
    @mwsebastian Месяц назад

    I got the Anker C1000 a couple weeks ago. If I had seen this video first, I might have gone with the Bluetti AC180 simply because it cost less per Watt-Hour, but I do not regret my Anker purchase. Most of the Anker's negatives highlighted in the video - fan noise, lack of simultaneous AC and solar charging, slightly lower 12VDC output - are not that important to me for my envisioned use cases.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +1

      The Anker C1000 is still an excellent choice. I like the small form factor and the benefit of the added 100 watts of extra solar charging! When the units are all so close in comparison I really have to dig down and find differences.

  • @myfpv6813
    @myfpv6813 Месяц назад

    If there are point for extra ussage, be more fair and ecoflow shloud be mentioned about home power system compatibility. As it is only from those 3 where u can add panels, smartplug+control unit and it can go full automode. Plug it into home electricity net, and when smartplug see device taking power that amount will be pushed into net from station. That allows to reduce bills, and from those 3 i see only ecoflow having a,plugandplay set.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +1

      The Delta 2 is not compatible with the Ecoflow smart panel so it doesn't work with their home backup system.

    • @myfpv6813
      @myfpv6813 Месяц назад

      @@Jasonoid delta2 (can be with extra batt too)+ EcoFlow PowerStream + solarpanels + smartplugs. Small system, not big wall thing (aka balcony power)

  • @nahnotsomuch2292
    @nahnotsomuch2292 Месяц назад +1

    Starting to think Ecoflow's pricing is riding off their name from a few years back when they were toward the top of the heap. Now that the rest of the pack has caught up, their prices seem relatively high and no longer justified.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +6

      The EcoFlow Delta 2 dropped to only $499 this morning! It's a price war!
      amzn.to/4eQn1zY

  • @campbellsoup4910
    @campbellsoup4910 Месяц назад

    What up Doe Dr J'
    This is a very informative and detailed comparison of the top midsized power station.
    Can you give us a little info about warranties and customer service?
    (half a point)😅
    Great vid👍🏻

  • @bigtom4709
    @bigtom4709 Месяц назад +2

    Regarding expansion batteries for Bluetti & Ecoflow, you're probably better off just buying an additional unit and linking them (AC or DC).
    Twice the battery capacity, twice the ports and TWO 1800 watt inverters.

    • @bigtom4709
      @bigtom4709 Месяц назад

      Great video as always. 👍🏽

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +1

      None of these units support being connected together but you'd still get double the capacity, double the solar charging, and double the ports! Good point!

    • @bigtom4709
      @bigtom4709 Месяц назад +1

      I daisy my Delta 2's with the Cigarette port of one to the XT60 of the other. It's only 100 watts but it's zero effort to double the capacity. If I ever need the additional 1800 watt inverter, it's there waiting for me.

    • @bigtom4709
      @bigtom4709 Месяц назад

      You inspire me, bro.

  • @scottreid3999
    @scottreid3999 Месяц назад

    Great Video, I went with the ecoflow due to the size and weight as im using it in my caravan

    • @souettequinn2404
      @souettequinn2404 Месяц назад

      That's why I'm here too. Weight and size for use in my van.

  • @NickBeKnowin
    @NickBeKnowin Месяц назад

    SUPER helpful! would be curious to see which of these runs power tools the longest for remote projects

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +1

      The most battery capacity will give you the longest runtime 👍

  • @kingelijah79
    @kingelijah79 Месяц назад

    I love the compact size of Anker

  • @jampam-jf8mt
    @jampam-jf8mt Месяц назад

    They all do the same job with similar capacities and inverter sizes. It would come down to which one has best reliability and customer support?

  • @tumbleweed1976
    @tumbleweed1976 Месяц назад

    After a rough start with Eco Flow Delta 2 not 12v charging all is fixed by returning to Eco Flow. It was annoying but all fixed and has been a great product for van life. For me I wish I went bigger to Delta Max 2.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад

      It's always nice to have the larger battery capacity. Have you seen the new EcoFlow car charger? That would allow you to charge your Delta 2 really quickly if needed.

    • @tumbleweed1976
      @tumbleweed1976 Месяц назад

      @@Jasonoid Amen! What a car charger. I also saw your video comparing it to the competition. I currently run two 100 watt panels in California. Honestly that keeps me topped off most days. Only issue is if I cook one meal and heat one water kettle battery Delta 2 is empty. Thank you for all your work. I first saw your DIY build video years ago.

  • @timothywilliams8434
    @timothywilliams8434 15 дней назад

    Love the comparison reviews! As objectively tempting as this Bluetti is, I'm hesitant because, in addition to the many customer service complaints on the web (the rate and legitimacy of which I do not know), their website has grammatical errors and odd phrasing. I get that this may be translation errors, but to me it raises concerns about attention to detail and commitment to the US Market. Am I overthinking this?

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  15 дней назад

      These are all from Chinese companies and they each have their support horror stories. Bluetti support has improved over the last year, not perfect yet though.

  • @djp_video
    @djp_video Месяц назад

    The Delta 2 can charge from AC at up to 1500 Watts… you just go into the app to adjust it. And as others have pointed out, it is compatible with the Delta 2 Max extra battery for a total capacity of 3072 Wh. And their ecosystem includes the generator and air conditioner which are compatible and work with the Delta 2.
    With one of the Labs features, it can be setup to automatically power on when it receives solar or AC power after the battery has been depleted. That can be very useful for some people. Worth mentioning.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад

      Latest version of the firmware dropped it down from 1500 to 1200 watts. When it first came out it supported 1500 watts. Not anymore 😔

    • @djp_video
      @djp_video Месяц назад

      @@Jasonoid I'm on the latest firmware and I charged mine at 1500 Watts just before I made this post to make sure I wasn't imagining things. The option is still very much there.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад

      @@djp_video you got the C1000X?

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад

      Aparently there are two models, the C1000 and the C1000X.
      There are two differences between the Anker SOLIX C1000 and the C1000X:
      The SOLIX C1000X has an AC input capacity of 1300W while the SOLIX C1000 has an AC input capacity of 1000W.
      The SOLIX C1000X comes in a sleeker dark color compared to the SOLIX C1000.

    • @djp_video
      @djp_video Месяц назад

      @@Jasonoid It sounds like you're referring to the Anker. I'm speaking of the Ecoflow. In the app you can select the AC charge rate anywhere from 200 W to 1500 W. It defaults to 1200 W, but you can select any value you'd like in multiples of 100.

  • @dannydivine7699
    @dannydivine7699 Месяц назад +1

    6:15 Why didn't you test the Anker AC charging speed in the "Ultra Fast Charging" charging setting???

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +1

      That setting seems to be removed with the latest firmware update. I didn't see it like I had before.

    • @dannydivine7699
      @dannydivine7699 Месяц назад +1

      @@Jasonoid I had to go back and find it on the main screen of my app (ver 2.6.0) and device firmware (ver 1.4.3) but I can't enable it right this moment because I'm fully charged already.
      It's under "AC Input" on main screen of the app

  • @alexand2244
    @alexand2244 Месяц назад

    European prices are much higher than US ones :( It's Prime Day sale now and we have €649 offer for Anker C1000 (with ultrafast charging mode), €699 for Bluetti AC180 and €699 for Ecoflow Delta 2. Which one would you choose with these prices and why?

  • @Opsenforcer
    @Opsenforcer Месяц назад +1

    Love the comparison so would that make the ac180p a better buy still?

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад

      I guess it depends on how much you are spending on that larger battery in the AC180p.

  • @MrGunsnfnRoses
    @MrGunsnfnRoses Месяц назад +1

    I want one of these primarily for my sump pump… which is max 7.8amps 115v. I figure the portability makes these a better choice than a classic inverter /marine battery backup setup. Any reasons not go with one these power stations for a sump pump?

    • @Sylvan_dB
      @Sylvan_dB Месяц назад

      The only reason I know of, is if the A.C. output turns off (temporary overload or battery runs out) will it automatically turn back on? (to retry the overload or when the input A.C. is restored) Many, such as my Delta 2 Max, will not. That makes it unsuitable for unattended backup IMO.

  • @DoritosResidue
    @DoritosResidue Месяц назад

    I have quite a few ecoflow power stations but for this mid tier I'd go with the anker.

  • @savanna6340
    @savanna6340 Месяц назад

    Hi Jason! I have a question. I have 2 renogy panels mounted on top of my van and they are plugged into my Jackery 1500 explorer power station…so can I leave the cable plugged into the Jackery continuously…and/should I have a circuit breaker if I can? AND if I need a circuit breaker how would this work into the input of my Jackery? Thanks…really appreciate your channel 😊

  • @jimdaly5077
    @jimdaly5077 Месяц назад +1

    Hi great chart & comparison layout 👍👍. 🐝🌞

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks so much! 😊

    • @jimdaly5077
      @jimdaly5077 Месяц назад

      @@Jasonoid Hi never a problem saying thank you for your work 👍🐝🌞

  • @shelley131
    @shelley131 Месяц назад

    Jason, you made a convert out of me with this video. I've been a fan of EcoFlow for years simply because of their Customer Service especially recently when they replaced 3 units after I had been using them for over 2 years and they paid for shipping both ways. It is slow going through the process but in the end they stand behind their product. After seeing the video and how I use my power banks I see that the Bluetti is clearly the better choice for me. I hope you continue to do this type of comparison videos with different capacity models. Since I do not have experience with Bluetti, do you know how their Customer Support department rates? Do they pay for shipping both ways like EcoFlow does? Great, great, great video. Thank you for sharing with us.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад

      They provided a shipping label when I had an issue with my EB3A, but thats a small model. I'm not sure what the case would be on a larger power station. I haven't heard anyone tell me they had to pay shipping.

    • @shelley131
      @shelley131 Месяц назад

      @@Jasonoid The units I sent were 2 delta max 2000 and a river pro. Best part was they gave me an extension battery for my river pro for my inconvenience free of charge too.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +1

      @@shelley131 I don't think Bluetti would do that, wow! (the extra battery) 😲
      I think it's hard to say one brand is the 'best' and I don't chose favorites.
      This video wasn't trying to prove any brand is better or worse than the others, it was just fun to see how these products stacked up in an in depth comparison. Just choose the product that fits you best!

  • @almostrvperfect6203
    @almostrvperfect6203 Месяц назад

    Well done. There are more than 20 power station (SoGen) to compare at many styles and sizes. The most valuable matrix is the price per watt hour. Doing the math, dollars / watt hours will keep us from over paying no matter the specs or brand. Again, well done.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад

      In my opinion you have to choose a balance between price vs performance. The cheapest units (lowest price per watt hour) usually have software bugs, hardware shortcuts, and less features. The saying 'you get what you pay for' is mostly true on these. It's better to go with a model in the middle of the mix, then youre not paying for a premium price, but you don't have issues with junk models.
      None of these in the video are considered 'cheap or budget' models.

  • @davidputt4638
    @davidputt4638 19 дней назад

    Can't wait until these generators offer a rudimentary UPS server to allow automatic shutdown of devices with an installed plugin.

  • @NoZenith
    @NoZenith Месяц назад +1

    Now, as I watch the video, the sound and tone of the fans on the anker alone would have Cut it out of the running immediately... And then you got to the ecoflow Delta 2: does it have different fans than the Delta 2 Max? My Delta 2 max isn't silent, but it's fairly quiet with a very uniform, not at all high pitched sound... it's not disturbing at all

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад

      They upgraded the Delta 2 Max fans after all the complaints of the Delta 2 fans.

    • @jacobpetersen5662
      @jacobpetersen5662 Месяц назад +1

      D2M is VERY quiet. More so than this Bluetti.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад

      @@jacobpetersen5662 yes, the DM2 fans are excellent. Now why they didn't upgrade the Delta 2 fans is a complete mystery...

    • @NoZenith
      @NoZenith Месяц назад

      @@jacobpetersen5662 Thank you. it was definitely a major selling point as I was shopping because I wanna have it in sleeping space with me when I go camping.

  • @Knotty31
    @Knotty31 Месяц назад

    I would have liked to see the time to full charge as ecoflow claims to be the fastest

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +1

      They will all charge to full within 5 to 10 minutes of each other since they charge at a 1C rate. (1000w input / 1000wh battery)

  • @89thedawg
    @89thedawg Месяц назад

    Picked up my 2nd Delta 2 last week for $429 plus tax from the Ecoflow website,with a $100 off coupon.Couldn't pass that price up.

  • @nevadaxtube
    @nevadaxtube 29 дней назад

    Just bought an EcoFlow Delta II for $0.467 per watt hour on Amazon. Beats Bluetti and Anker.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  29 дней назад

      Great pricing for sure! 👍

  • @unimatrix1of10
    @unimatrix1of10 Месяц назад

    I think you should have included their weight. Portability is also a consideration in choosing a portable generator

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад

      They are all within 10 lbs of each other.

    • @otterishly777
      @otterishly777 Месяц назад +1

      @@Jasonoid 10 lbs is a lot. I agree that it would've been nice to consider weight.

  • @zeppast
    @zeppast 10 дней назад

    I’ve heard bad things about Eco Flow and Bluetti in regards to customer service. Both make great products but reliable support is critical especially when you consider how expensive these power stations are.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  9 дней назад

      All these companies have both good and bad reviews about customer support. It's a mixed bag for sure.

  • @TheCornucopiaProject-bd5jk
    @TheCornucopiaProject-bd5jk Месяц назад

    That’s quite the spread in points considering they are so similar.
    The Delta/Delta 2 are EF low end model. I almost wouldn’t want to recommend it at all. The Max 2 is the perfect size

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Месяц назад +1

      The Delta 2 Max is pretty awesome! It's pretty heavy to move around though!

  • @BigStipowski
    @BigStipowski Месяц назад

    But which one has the least amount of interference on an AM radio.. ha kidding.. great video.. any chance of a big 3 vs lil 3 ie allpowers 1500, oupes doesn't really make one that fits in this range but.. or pecron. I got an allpowers 1500 on sale for 400.. for that price it's my choice.. but yeah Bluetti would be my second.
    Great vid thank you