Some seriously insightful comments on this video, thanks all. Lots of good push back on some of my points too which is always enlightening to read. You guys are all so smart and interesting. Apologies for a strange cut at 47 minutes ish - I had to remove copywritten material. I'll keep a closer eye out for this in future, please see below links to some of the videos people are asking for: Monice and Sid: ruclips.net/video/y0gQKGrwFEI/видео.html Gross feeder dude: ruclips.net/video/NDtygpzybHk/видео.html
Can you add the ability for people in your comments to be able to tag a time so they can share with you comments about moments and you and others can easily click that time, rather than searching for it, so you can get to their reference quicker? Btw, fantastic video and great research and references from other creators! Keep it up! I really hope ALR sees this one in her spare time and thinks hard about it. I doubt she will…but I hope she does. Her mental health isn’t well. If Emily truly loved her and isn’t a feeder, she would have told her to go home by now and focus on her mental health because she can’t be her sole happiness. The fact Emily has not done that tells everybody everything they need to know about Emily! ESPECIALLY because she is an RN in a Psych ward!! This is a very sick, sad, dangerous situation!
This was so incredibly well done, @rhetorictoast. The most disturbing thing for me is the nexus between sadism and ownership (misogynist ownership of the female body). I think this is why, at least in my research, feederism is mainly (not always, as shown in ALR's case, but overwhelmingly) between a male feedER and a female feedEE. At its core, whether in a lesbian relationship like ALR and Emily or a heterosexual one, to be a feeder is about sexual gratification watching the *female* body struggle, suffer, and in extreme cases, die. Imho it's not about being "needed" (what feeders like to argue, "I like that she needs me") so much as it is about being in complete control of another person -- a control so intense that it can result in their death.
Even in the best scenario, once someone becomes immobile from feederism, they are no longer able to ethically consent since they now have no option of autonomy
YES! Amazingly said! She’s already had a bedbound era too, in absolute denial about it the whole time and denying it to the audience. It’s only a matter of time given how bad her mobility has been before she’s back in that situation. I cannot help but wonder if something in this relationship is why she’s having issues with her mom. Plus if she’s a psych nurse it makes the whole thing feel even more sinister or adds a whole new layer of that to the whole situation.
Absolutely, however, depending on state law, physical incapacitation may not be enough to say they're unable to make sound decisions about how they live. I contest that by saying there are studies out there that show that extreme morbid obesity does affect and disrupt cognitive and executive functioning and decision making so I agree with you completely.
@@HellsFurbyit doesn't really matter (at least imo) if she's a psych nurse, she's a mandatory reporter because she is in the medical field. Which is why my game theory is that once Tommy gets tired of Amber and wants to dump her, she could 5250 Amber and send her off to a similar place where her ex was taken to when she died. And the only thing really sinister about it is that, if Amber is truly living with Tommy, she has no support or family to bail her out or get into the way of medical intervention. Tldr, Amber is going to inpatient/rehabilitation, she just doesn't know it yet.
The clip of the male feeder you showed is chilling. His partner is doing what he wants to please him, but what he wants is for her to die slowly and in pain.
If you watch episode one of my 600 lb life, there's a similar couple. Zsalynn is an amazing woman who recognized her struggle and chose to work her way out of it. Her husband spent the entire time complaining, talking shit about her journey, eating unhealthy food in front of her to try and get her to break and eventually abandoned her when he realized she was done being his fetish material. These feeders are absolute ghouls, disgusting wastes of flesh.
If you can find the full documentary that’s from, I highly recommend it. Saw it years ago on the telly and was my introduction to feederism as a concept. It’s wild and really sad
@@tylociraptor8131 holy... that´s shitty. Imagine someone trying to turn their life around, working hard to get healthy, and you just... try to get them down, forcing them back into these unhealthy habits that are difficult to escape in the first place. All why claiming to love them.
It's so scary to think about being lovebombed by a feeder and then becoming immobile while the mask has slipped and they begin being overtly abusive. How would you even get away from them? You'd be dependent on your abuser for survival, and at the same time the requisites of receiving that care is providing sexual gratification and destroying your health. I really hope anyone in this situation wakes up. It's hard enough leaving an abusive relationship. I can't imagine how much harder it would be if you can't even physically move.
This is why people in relationships have to retain substantial independence. It's fine to eat what your partner cooks for you, but at least know what he's cooking, at least cook your own food half the time, at least pay attention to your body and eat in moderation. I'm not saying we should suspect our partners of being feeders but I feel like there would be some pretty big red flags. Like if your partner wants to put your food in a funnel instead of on a normal sized plate that might be a sign. Being in a relationship isn't an excuse to completely quit paying attention to your needs. And if you notice you're gaining weight then you've got to act on it. I'm not trying to be mean but I just wish people wouldn't relinquish control over their own lives just because of a romance.
@@mockingbirdnightingale7169I heard a story about one person whose partner was putting a stick of butter in everything they cooked and only found out when the guy's child said something about her being fat for eating so much butter. But idk if that would actually even work, most of the butter would cook off or be deposited as grease that wouldn't stick to the food. And you still have to eat enough mass to equal the weight gain. People put too much stock into calories when it is a result of a food's flammability and excitatory energy content, not necessarily the energy content your body is able to use by eating it. But thermodynamically you cannot gain more weight than you eat since human beings don't photosynthesize you aren't gaining mass from the air, so the liquids and food you consume are the only place you gain mass. But realistically if you want to give up on being fed, you can just stop eating because if you are that fat you have a considerable amount of time before you actually die from not eating. Water is the only real consideration but if you are that physically large you should have a considerable amount of water still left in your intestines to be absorbed. If you completely stop eating at that size you could conceivably lose 50 pounds in 4-5 days if you consistently try to move as much as possible, and should at least be able to reach a phone or source of water over the course of 5 days.
@@AnotherAustin-z7b that's not true the affect that starvation has on your heart can kill you before your body starts using your fat to fuel it, and your brain needs carbs, so you still have to eat enough to support your heart and brain if that's your plan
The man who took pictures of his wife at different weights and proudly said he labelled them with her size reminded me of a farmer talking about his largest animals 😞 further hammered home by hearing of the girl dressed as a pig, i think a big motivation of this for some is them seeing women as animals
I saw something similar on insta this week - a lady posted a clip of her husband before and after marriage, he went from normal to obese with a happy emoji. other wives were congratulating her in the comments, some even say they're getting there. crazy!
@@izzatihassan1475Woah. You know, this is pretty common, male or female. It’s controlling. ‘You don’t need to be healthy and sexy anymore, don’t want any others looking at you.’ 😢
I don't agree with that, that's borderline beastiality and if they actually saw their partners as animals, there would be a form of dress up.. Some people are just narcissistic, psychopaths or sociopaths who HAVE to have 💯 control over their victims. Whether it's with substance abuse, alcohol, physical, emotional, mental or with keeping them extremely obese or disabled somehow.. If these people don't control their partners with food it would, and probably is another form of control involved... ❤❤❤
the craziest thing about fetishes like this is like...how are you that horny...imagine letting insane horniness be the singular driving emotion behind every decision you make in your life that is so insane 💀
This. This this this. This is how I feel about most fetishes... I love a good kink sure. But there is so much more to life then hedonism. So in my opnion, the people who only think about their desires have a general lack of intelligence.
@@pinkpugginz Definitely an addiction in a way. Sexual stimulation releases dopamine and endorphins. Some people hurt other people to get their fix, this is similar
One notorious internet feeder, named Philip, encouraged his victim/girlfriend to broadcast her obesity to other feeders while he took the money from that endeavor. Did I mention he was married to another woman the whole time? Did I mention he had a baby with his victim-girlfriend that he was stringing along?
@@SEESAWLTER reminds me of what andrew tate and a few others have been accused of/admitted to doing. using the internet for a new form of pimping, exploiting vulnerable people. that case seems to border on the same sort of 's3x trafficking' crime. this feeder (and those who fetishize anorexics too) are likely flying under the radar of most, because there are cases of parents making it with their children but not doing it explicitly enough, JUST enough to have 'plausible' deniability. there are so many ways and different types of fetish content that it'd probably be pretty difficult to actually write a law about it, but idk. i'm no lawmaker, but i feel like it should be illegal and needs to be cracked down on the same way pimps are/were. hope it happens soon to prevent as many potential victims as possible. 😬
30 seconds in I just want to say "she has victims... but she is also a victim" is SO true. People on the internet and especially in this community have this weird idea in their heads that only good people can be victims of something.... Not true. The world isn't black or white. Amber is a bad person. Amber is an abuser, frankly. Amber is also a victim (of certain things). It all co-exists
The idea that only perfect, harmless, innocent people can be victims is why so many normally flawed people stay in abusive situations because "i've done bad things before so clearly I'm not a victim and I deserve this". I'm tired of it!
@@PoppinHoopsso much to try and explain in a comment. I would recommend watching Mr Snowflakes series “shaped by the algorithm” and the couple of videos he has called “victims of an empath” to come to your own conclusions on Amber
About your argument on Eugenia. She had a few friends force her into a 5150. Her ex best friend Jaclyn Hill (sorry if i misspelled her name) had Eugenia go into the 5150. She admitted to her being unhealthy and was on the mend. But now she is even more malnourished than ever. I am almoat convinced her mom enjoys her daughter being that skinny. Because no loving mother would allow their child to be that thin and do nothing about it.
A lot of people speculate that Shane Dawson "helped" her to relapse with his documentary, when he visited her Eugenia was feeling WAY better and then suddenly became worse
The problem is that you cannot force someone to recover if they don’t want to/aren’t ready to recover. The physical appearance is a symptom of mental illness
watching those feeders talk so freely about how some of their partners have died of obesity related diseases is so unfair they should be penalized in some way
Enablers that encourage the furtherance of one’s addiction are dangerous and it’s going to take a serious case of feeder-kink-death situation with overwhelming evidence of enabling for laws to be applied against them
I think the opinions on this tend to center around the ethics of sadism, but they are all missing one key factor: Amberlynn is severely mentally ill, including an actual eating disorder/ food addiction. This is not someone who enjoys spanking a consenting partner. This is a predator playing into the delusional desires of the mentally ill. 24:20 I think this brings it up so well. The example with the alcoholic is so severe, it really does not respect the helplessness in being an alcoholic, and also denounces the responsibility you have as an enabler
@@iain9757 binge eating disorder IS a mental illness! Even without speculating about anything else, this fact is enough for the power dynamics to be sooo messed up in her relationship
@@iain9757she's openly said she had bpd and most likely has binge eating disorder. Her past partners have confirmed this as well It's why she falls for love bombing so often, it's common for people that have bpd
@@sagegalloway5407she has also said she doesn’t have them along with saying she has other mental health issues then back tracking. I think doing that alone shows she is mentality ill.
My first relationship, real relationship, although long distance, (we were 16, he would visit) was with a feeder. And I was average weight. He didn't let me know until we were over 6 months in. And when he told me it was this big thing for him, he expected me to comply to. What I wanted for my body did not matter at all. He needed to hear me eat on the phone. He needed me to "grow." He belittled me because I didn't want to, eventually put his own life in danger and starved himself to be smaller than me and told me to look at what I was doing to him. He had tantrums about how I didn't want to be a princess in a room who wouldn't have to do anything so long as he could fatten me up and take care of me. It was absolutely abusive. It felt like there was no love involved. But before I refused and he was soft launching poor health, it felt like there was. Gaining my love and trust was just the first step in exploiting his dangerous desires on me, and he loved me as long as he felt like I was on his path. I'm glad it happened to me young. It really helped me develop a sixth sense to grooming. It's hard to diagnose the love as real or not real when you're in it. I feel like with feeders the love is usually conditional but it's something you can't know until you stray from the plan. So long as you are going with it you're going to feel like there is love there, because the love they feel comes with the compliance of eating yourself to immobility or death. If you are worried you are with a feeder, make a plan, celebrate your first 5lb weight loss milestone. Even if it didn't happen. Say you can't wait to lose more, you have a plan, and clock the response. It doesn't even have to be true. They will usually out themselves with worry. Say you are drinking a glass of water and a handful of almonds before meals. It's honestly quite an experience watching them find ways to take those habits away from you or talk you out of them.
That is generally good advice, but if you’re already skinny your partner would probably still be worried if you planned on loosing weight and they would be reasonable to have those feelings. I’m really sorry you had to go through that, Ive been groomed too and I know how draining it is and how it fucks you up for years afterwards.
@@Kirstenkriskatif you are already skinny it would be very strange to end up with a feeder because they wouldn’t be attracted to you to begin with or may think that getting you fat is going to be really hard or assume you wouldn’t want to.
@ that makes sense but considering the mindset of some feeders it wouldn’t surprise me if they liked the “challenge”. I feel like part of the appeal would be the drastic change in their “partner”.
I am actually so disturbed by this concept. That guy talking about what fantasies he has about his wife and her getting bigger? Documenting the whole thing like a lab experiment😵💫 its like he doesn't even see her as a person, and she's just sat there listening to him talk about her like shes an overgrown zucchini he's been growing in his yard??
I watched the whole documentary and i think, this was the most disturbing thing i EVER watched. While watching it and reading in the comments, that the woman died at age 54, i felt like i was watching my first snuff film. I do not blame him for his f3t1sh, aunce we can nit vhose, whst turns us on. But there is a big fat line, that should never be crossed. And if your s3xuall desire includes harming your partner, it HAS to stay in your fantasies. Like what you want. Dream of what ever you like. But NEVER ever make those real. And it doesn't matter, if the partner gives consent. Doing something harmfull to your partner is wrong. I am into BDSM. And there are THREE "pillars". Safe. Sane. Consensual. Living feederism isn't safe, since you can not stop the "play" and it will take YEARS, to turn around the damage that is done. And some of that damage just CAN'T be reversed. And noone can ever convince me, that feeding your partner to death or into serious health issues could be sane in ANY way. In my oppinion, only soziopaths, would ever even think about making those phantasies real.
good video, unfortunately AmberLynn is so desperate she will accept any partnership regardless how many red flags there are. She is a truly awful person that mistreats anyone she comes in contact with but I think she has met her match with Tommy. I think after watching her over the years it seems clear she is mentally ill, she had a horrific childhood and has been let down by everyone who should have supported her but she won't seek help, admits she needs it but wont do anything about it
"She won't seek help,admits she needs to but won't to anything about it." As an on again off again Amberlynn watcher I remember myself and others feeling like she would tease getting mental help and then disregard whatever the therapist or phycologist would say. She would shop around until she found someone who agreed with her view and would tell her she should do what she wants. At the time I assumed she was "trolling" and I still think to an extent she is. However, I think she had fooled herself into believing she is in the right.
I can’t agree she is particularly ‘mentally ill’ beyond terminal l@ziness. She has never matured beyond the bare minimum for a child, and - as you note - that’s on her.
I don't think she had a horrific childhood. I think that's her way to get attention/pity. I'm not up to date with the ALR story, but I remember her telling about her childhood and how bad it was and at some point she told a story about her mom cooking stuff for her birthday and organizing a party and all that. I don't doubt that not everything was perfect in her childhood, but I think it is far from what she wants her audience to believe. After all, most of what the public knows comes from her mouth and she's a habitual liar
On her latest video she let the audience know she googled a psychiatrist and was thinking of reaching out. lol, I’ve been watching her since 2018. Same old story nothing changes.
Ambie has come right out said she does not want help nor does she want to lose weight. . She actually comes off as typical jealous of siblings. THEN the disconnect of her over reacting to what or what better her brothers received in her mind. She , being in the " system," be as a kid sees the good stuff many kids , in MY area, some others, DO get while in foster care, group homes, trips, clothing allowance, A child doesn't understand clothing is needed, not just a shopping trip ! Of course kids in system brag, trying to look good, so other kids see this lifestyle as privilege. I remember my nephew went thru this , wanting to go live in the local home, as in his eyes, they get everything....his parents were my asking like $150K a yr..vaycays, on & on.. the concept of family, roof over head basics escapes kids. Ambie wanted to be taken care of..still does. Expected to be cared for. Yet She has no idea of how to be taking care of herself let alone care from another. Yes, as a human being she, all of us deserve the best .there is a trade off Ambie is willing to give up. Willing to loose herself, to be " taken care of" .she is not interested in any work period.She has always been taken care of, expects it. Knows no other way of life, is not interested either. I don't feel sorry for her. Deserves best life, yes, deserves to have her backside kissed, NO!! These two have found their lives in each other, lives NOT actual love of another human being. Amber is selling herself online as she always has.
While I don’t *want* Amber to die, I do feel like there’s only so much you can do for a person before you start to withhold sympathy. She’s had every resource and every opportunity to change her life, her body and her mental health but she stubbornly refuses to do any of it. It’s very telling that many of her ‘haydurs’ actually start out as supporters
I can’t really see the difference between feederism and that girl that convinced her boyfriend to go through with his suicidal plan. This is just slower. The girl was convicted of involuntary manslaughter and only served 11 months in jail. I don’t understand how she got such a light sentence. Typically, involuntary manslaughter would be if you accidentally hit someone with your car and killed them, but it was caused by some type of negligence. She knew what she was doing and it was intentional.
@@Ann-hv1rm I don’t believe in thought crime. I also believe that we don’t choose what preferences or attractions we have. So, I don’t condemn anyone for those things. If someone is having thoughts of harming themselves or others they need help and prevention. My problem will always be with harmful actions. Also, I just want to make clear (I’m not saying you do this), but there are other ways to get someone to participate in harm without force. There are many forms of control and manipulation that would mean that person is not fully consenting.
@ no you misunderstood me. If your actions are not causing harm, then you’re fine. I suppose in my first message I should have been more specific that it’s not all feeders.
Feederism is one of many paraphilias. These sexual disorders often carry with them hyper-sexuality, and are characterised by harmful sexual obsessions. People with these sexual disorders obsess and think about their particular paraphillic interest at a much higher rate than those with a healthy relationship to their sexuality. This is what pisses me off about people who accuse others of “kink shaming”. The lines between being a bit kinky, and these full-blown paraphilias are too blurred and people open the net far too wide in an attempt to be ‘inclusive’. For these reasons, it doesn’t surprise me Tommy moved on so quick. She needed a new victim to fuel the fetish. I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s into some other weird stuff, considering paraphilias tend to coalesce. If someone has one, they likely have one or several others.
I completely agree with you, very well said. It's crazy how so many people are so desperate to be viewed as "inclusive" that they would rather enable deviant and dangerous people so that they don't appear to "kink shame". First off, what's wrong with shame in the first place? Obviously in many cases shame has no place (for example victim blaming), but It's not necessarily a bad thing, some people (cluster b) ony really rein in a lot of their horrible behaviors due to shame, so it's not inherently a bad thing. The black and white thinking that's become so prevelant nowadays is honestly scary.
You have hit the nail on the head, but you also have to remember it's the same for normal kinks if you have one kink you probably have two or more. The whole thing of being inclusive has literally damned many communities and will tarnish them for years to come.
there are extremists in every kink community. not every feedist dynamic is based on sadism, abuse, shame, humiliation, growing unhealthy or immobile... people make these exact criticisms about BDSM. it's all about consent. god forbid someone consider a woman might enjoy submitting to any of this (MANY MANY MANY DO)
@@youtube.account-d9vLiterally. Like I’m sorry, no one is going to convince me that grown adults interested in dressing like babies and wearing nappies is somehow reflective of a healthy relationship with their sexuality.
I think it’s really important we call the gf Emily. She continues to try to go by different names. This convolutes the situation Her name is legally Emily and she should be called that. Amber calls her Tommy and apparently no one knows why. Willow , Oak etc are not her name
Completely agree!! IMO she uses “nicknames” because the online feeder community know her and she seems to change names with every new victim!! Also Amber had no problem dead naming Casey and calling him a “once was person”(like he’s some kind of alien) so why is anyone respecting Emily ?!?!?
@Veronica_1683 Amber being transphobic is not an excuse to use a name other than what someone wants to be called. That's agreeing to be just as shitty as she is. We know this person's legal name, but unless they want to be called that, I won't be using it. My best friend has not legally changed her name, but we call her by the name she's been using for 20 years. Another friend of mine is trans and I would be furious if someone used her dead name just because they don't like her.
@@Aster_Risk Emily/Tommy said that Amber made up the name Tommy and likes calling her that !! Emily didn’t say she “prefers” to be called Tommy !! Amber can call her whatever she wants the fact still remains that she is a very sick and twisted person!
@@Aster_Risk Emily publicly said she doesn’t know why Amber calls her Tommy. In addition, that’s all good and well unless you are using diff names in diff forums to hide your real identity. Your example of your friend is NOT what we are talking about in this situation at all. That’s comparing apples to oranges. I knew someone would make this stupid argument. Sorry but you’re wrong.
@@VERONICA_1683 exactly. It’s all used to confuse. Willow. Oak . And you’re right - she publicly stated she doesn’t know why Amber calls her Tommy. She answered that question on instagram. When she made her art she put her name as Emily. Not Tommy.
Hearing a feeder say he's sexually gratified by the sound of his partner wheezing like they smoked 2 packs a day for 40 years... I quit smoking so I could make my partner quit with me because the thought of hearing them breathe like the sick old smokers I hear at my job in a hospital someday horrified me so much that it chewed on me every single day until we quit. These people are devoid of love and a human soul.
Some people really here saying where is her mother ... as if her mother can do anything about her she is 30 years old and really heavy her mama can't force her to end this relationship even if she wants to, lol
It's ben worse, her mother was actively helping her loose weight and Amber abandonned her and any effort to loose weight to move in with a feeder the second she could.
Hopefully this will end in tears for Amber and not an actual coffin. I say that because I really believe at this point it's going to be one or the other. I really don't like Amber. I think she's a generally terrible human being. However, I don't want her to die. Whether it's because of her own choices or not. I do believe that at least on some level Amber knows that Emily is a feeder but she has spent practically her whole life ignoring reality so that she can exist in her own little fantasy world where she lets herself believe things that aren't true and vice versa to protect and to feed her massive ego. You know, like how she'll let herself believe that Emily really loves her instead of believing that Emily is most likely just using Amber to fulfill her own sick twisted fetishes. I think it's really concerning that Amber has hardly uploaded since being at Emily's and regardless of what Amber says, of course Emily isn't going to want Amber to film what's going on because while Amber may not want to acknowledge what's happening, her audience is going to keep shoving it in her face which at some point no matter how unlikely might actually get through to Amber and Emily wouldn't want that. Also, we all know that Amber uses her RUclips channel as a way to trauma dump like it's her therapist in a way and Emily isn't going to want that either because the more mentally unstable Amber is and the more alone she feels the easier she will be to manipulate and control. It's also so scary that Emily is a nurse and a psych nurse at that but alarmingly I've found that people like Emily (psychopaths) frequently seek out these jobs where they hold a certain power over vulnerable people. I mean when you are in a hospital you are dependent on the nurses to take care of you and help you to recover from whatever illness/accident has brought you there so you're for all Intense and purposes, bed bound, and while these people may not be extremely large or large at all it's still having another person being dependent on you which is a part of what a feeder seems to want and very much enjoy. But not in the, I love helping people way. It's in the, I want people to be completely incapable of taking care of themselves so they have to depend on me, way. And that's also extremely creepy and dangerous.
Your comment is very well done. The point you made about Amber living in her own fantasy world is spot on. I don't actually feel like Amber knows what love is. It's going to end badly if she stays with Emily
Good video. Some points I'd like to add are: - Eygenia has already been 51/50'd - Emily AKA "Tommy" is also a registered nurse... A PSYCH NURSE 🤯 therefore, amplifying the power dynamic in their relationship massively. - The channel "Oh Lordy it's Jordy" is one of the best channels out there when it comes to the Amberverse. He's hilarious and VERY well versed with all the lore. Thanks again for covering this! ❤ Subscribed ❤
Jordy for the investigative aspect, salty crab for the summary, you guise have to realize for the editing and the ankle to scratch that sassy hateful mean girls itch 😅 Edited for spelling
To be fair, ALR is a bit of a self-feeder, herself. Look at how she eyes herself when she eats on camera. She's not just posing for the "audience," she's actually enjoying it. This is just the natural conclusion of her choices. She has no one to blame but herself, and I wash my hands of her. As someone who's still morbidly obese, myself (still, down 170# since I started 4½ years ago; 180 from my highest), I was ALWAYS afraid of getting together with a feeder, since learning what they were at 17. They're not enablers. They only see their partners as objects to be used for their pleasure then discarded as soon as the partner dies or actively tries to lose weight. "Tummie"'s not the exception, she's the rule. That's why she was talking with ALR as her previous partner was dying. While I will firmly stand for the fact that what consenting adult humans do behind closed doors is not my place to stop, it is still our right to judge & even condemn it, especially when they make it public.
I don't think there is really any good reason to care so much about sex as to enable this from either side. This is basically the same kind of mental gymnastics used to justify grooming, or pedophilia. Wanting something sexually is not justification for doing it.
I agree with the idea that alr is a bit of a self feeder. You can see the difference between her and foodie beauty. Fb always looks up when she eats, won’t look at herself when she does it. While amber seems to genuinely derive pleasure.
@@SpookyBlueNStuff I`ll say it, thank the lord people like her, Chantal and others exist so it can show people what happens when you make the absolute worse decisions possible.
The gal talking about how "fat ladies were considered beautiful during a period" is gross because she doesn't understand that it wasn't them being "immobile". It was just them being "fat" showed that they had MONEY enough to get fat when most people of the time were lucky if they got a single meal in a day! "I guess" means she hasn't actually looked at the REAL history behind those paintings. The commoners despised people of that size because it meant they were wealthy. Hmmm...sort of like the rich people flashing their wealth nowadays. Back then it was with food and now it's with fancy cars, houses, branded everything, and traveling.
If they actually looked at those paintings they would also see that the women in them aren’t even that fat. In America they would weight less than the average woman
I believe that at some level they must know that if they comply and fulfill their feeder’s fantasies by becoming big to the point of immobility, and the feeder then leaves them, they’re helpless. Or even if the feeder leaves them at a smaller weight it will be difficult to find a new partner. I think they must have to work very hard on silencing the perfectly rational voices in their head that says this is a terrible idea that puts them at a significant disadvantage if it goes wrong - in other words, overriding normal self-preservation alarms. No wonder they’re scared.
As a fat woman (morbidly obese according to medecine) feeders are my worst fear and my biggest ick. Having a preference for fat bodies is one thing but PURPOSELY making them gain more weight to the point where your partner gets bed ridden and can’t do anything on their own because you gain some kind of gratifications is disgusting. You CAN’T call this love.
Loving your partner the way they are and/or having body preferences are extremely different than what Tommy and other "feeders" do, you're right. When it comes to true love, even if someone prefers a certain body type, they'll always support and prioritize their partner's health over *anything* aesthetic or sexual.
Right now i am on a weightloss journey and i watch that feeder documentary every time i want to throw the towel. My fear if beeing atrsctive to a feeder, is something that really helps me to say "no" to fastfood and sweets.
I was just going to say this. When I saw the pics in the beginning, that obviously was very convincing to Rachel - I was like - ok, how do we know this is "feeder" behavior and not just someone who loves a fat person? The scary thing for me is that it's pretty hard to tell tbh. I love people who don't give a sh*t about what their partners look like and even are very proud of them, because to me that says they really love them for something deeper. This whole thing is very scary. I mean that old guy who is creepy af, he's honest about what he is, so easier to avoid I guess.
@ Yes it's very hard to tell. That's why fat women are vulnerable to this because at first you think "Nice this person loves me for who I am". But when you realize that feeders truly don't care about their partner it's sad. Lots of feeders have one or even multiple partners who passed away due to their weight...It's insane.
This feeder sht is so wierd. There's another lolcow streamer girl who has a feeder donor. She's broke and needs the money, so she's gained 20lbs in a couple months or less. All she talks about is her wieght gain, she eats almost constantly and she used to have a near perfect figure. It's really sad.
Also, at a certain point there’s a subtle coercion because if you’re immobile and you do something to displease your feeder (saying you want to lose weight or refusing food) then they can literally just leave and you’re fucked. There’s no way that doesn’t play a part in a lot of these dynamics either consciously or unconsciously.
I think she is miserable where she is now, and she knows she's in trouble with Tommy. But she can't fly home, and she has nobody to take her back to Oklahoma. Her mom probably said make up your mind if you really want to move there, I'm not driving that twice!
I think she's pissed, Tommi has a job, a house and a car. Amber's ex's didn't have those things so Amber provided those things so she could dangle those things over their heads to control them. For once Amber isn't the dominant one in the relationship.
She absolutely could fly home if she wanted to. She just refuses to grow up. Where theres a will theres a way, especially when you have money. Amber has no will.
I can only imagine what it must be like for someone to struggle with their weight their whole life due to additction, constantly have everyone encouraging them to lose weight, and then suddenly have someone who is actually approving of you eating and gaining weight. And that's one of the big issues of Feeders, the vulnerability of their victims to anyone who will offer them unconditional support and approval. It’s especially chilling how AL calls it "a gentle love I've never had before." It's gentle because her partner doesn't want her to do any of the hard, painful work required to address her mental and physical issues.
Sitting there, as the wife of an FA, hearing publicly that all they care about is the fat, not the person... It's tragic that people's low self esteem would lower them to agreeing to be just that - fat. Replaceable fat in the eyes of their partner. A real partner would do what they can to find the right mental health help for their food loving/addicted partner. I know it's very hard in many places but still. Culpability is 100% there. Manipulation, relying on "consent" as the OK to go ahead, no matter where that consent comes from deep within the feedee's psyche. Horrible. On the other hand, people who love them (family, friends) can only do so much. I don't even know if Mammalynn knows any of this. As for wishing death on someone because they are unlikable or even worse - not a fan. Amber is actually living her karma - she's not happy, she can't be as long as her happiness depends on others (people or food). Same for Foodie. Thanks for a well done video!
The sad part is that she had that with Jade. Jade tried her darn best to push Amber to get better, to get help, to be more active, and to lose weight. And Amber gushed over these things for most of the relationship only to throw it all away because she doesn't care to change.
13:13 this is unserious but two months is the exact amount of time it took hamlets mom to marry his uncle, something which made hamlet mad cause it was such as short time
Like aside from personal feelings, the rule thats common among many countries is that you have a one year grieving period after a partner or a parent death. Not just because of society but its generally enough time to accept the situation and come back to your usual life. Two months is not enough to even process the abscence of a close person, nevermind the grief of losing them, accepting that you have to keep going as usual WITHOUT that person forever. Nevermind when that person is your partner, someone so close you share everything. If it takes you only two months to get over the death of your partner and finding a new one - you never loved that person. Even animals grieve, and they dont have the luxury to take a breather and stop fighting for survival. And then also the problems and insecurities that can come up if you dont take enough time to grieve, stuff that WILL influence every relationship youll later have Thats too much stuff for so little time
Another difference between Eugenia and Amber is that Amber broadcasts her food issues often and openly displays her ED’ed behavior online. Eugenia pretends hers don’t exist and just makes the content she wants while existing in the body she has. You could argue she does some things subliminally (or barely so) but the fact is she doesn’t make any content directly & vocally addressing or promoting her ED whereas Amber does. Just thought id point that out
😅😅😅😅 this is a misguided comment . eugenia absolutely has been caught showing off to ed fetishists in her streams and she has broadcasted her ed issues online , she just tries to be way more subtle than amberlynn . eugenia is suffering in her own right at the hands of her mother . its a weird comparasion
Eugenia absolutely caters to fetishists. It's why she is always "accidentally" flashing her underwear or her private parts. Not only that, but Eugenia's content targets children. Eugenia is way, way worse in my opinion, if she was large, people would be a lot more willing to condemn her, but people excuse her predatory behaviour and just feel sorry for her instead.
They have different mental illnesses around food. Anorexia is a whole different game. They're both awful, and I wouldn't wish either on the worst person. These diseases kind of make you a terrible person, having some level of fame over it and all the pushback won't help either one. I have a harder time wrapping my head around Ambers situation, but recovering from anorexia, I look back and omg I was a b*tch.
@@maenad1231plus untreated, refuses to go to get ANY help, and it likely doesn’t help that allegedly Emily/tommy is a PSYCH nurse. These two are probably a terrible detrimental combo together.
@@maenad1231 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 By CHOICE - girl do you have any idea how stupid that sounds ! Yes we definitely choose this 😂 It’s a choice for sure
@@maenad1231that's so not true. I have a few friends with cluster B and they're trying so hard and genuinely making a positive impact around them. My friend with aspd started helping with research for personality disorders to make things better for himself and others like him. I really hope you can see the other side and stop generalizing everyone. Everyone is not Amberlynn
A feeder arguing they can have a consensual relationship/situation with the feedee feels like a dealer saying they can have a consensual relationship with one of their addicted customers.
People truly believe as long as you are above 18 and in your right mind you can consent to anything, even if it is being manipulated into death for a fetish
@@abytequiero it's mind boggling, how could someone watch that happening to someone they love? The feedees are not human to feeders, just fuel to their fire
@@abytequiero But, to "consent" to such a thing kind of SAYS you are not in your right mind, yeah??? In my opinion. AND, she DOES HAVE pretty clear, &, if I remember correctly, some well-documented mental illnesses, right? I don't think she is in her right mind, by any measure. In my opinion & experience.
Amber is so dumb. “She isn’t a feeder, she and her partner hear made feeder content for money” is like saying “I never did porn, I just had sex on camera and posted it online for money”. How can you deny doing something and then list step by step how you do that exact thing you just denied…
Amber is very well into her adult years and is 100% mentally competent to make her own decisions. People have warned her many times. She has resources to go home. But she will stay with the feeder. She is destined to find out what happens. FAFO
Addiction is a disease, she has neglected her mental health (everything aside from her addiction) for years, and when somebody is in the throws of addiction…it doesn’t matter what they know or their age. She is doomed right now, just like Eugenia.
I don’t think that Amberlynn is 100% mentally competent. She’s seriously ill with multiple mental illnesses that control her behavior. She needs inpatient intervention. She’s responsible for her current circumstances to the extent that she hasn’t gotten herself help for so many years and help is available, but at this point I don’t think she’s competent enough to consent to this.
I dated a guy who is a functional alcoholic. I found that i drank waaaay more than was good for me because he kept bringing me glasses of wine. I can't dodge responsibility, but it made it way easier to justify drinking way too much. Thankfully i realized this was very unhealthy and ended the relationship and was just pushing my addiction tendencies.
i love fat women but feeders are fucking CRUEL. Do not force weight on someone who doesn’t want it, especially when they also don’t know what you are doing to them. Absolutely disgusting
20:51 unfortunately as someone who has suffered with anorexia and is now recovered, A lot of these feelings stem from the stereotypes and the conditioned fatphobia we all have had engrained in us by media and society. Within the ED community it’s very clear to this day that people who have BED are taken less seriously than those with anorexia even though they are both equally as deadly. Even when it comes to doctors, insurance companies and many treatment facilities. Patients with BED are less likely to receive the same amount of care benefits as someone with anorexia. I was in inpatient facilities twice for two years total and. I only ever met 3 peers who suffered from BED. It is extremely hard to be admitted EVEN AS A MINOR and to receive actual help for BED. It is sickening. All three of my peer with BED were dropped by insurance extremely quickly and so were many bulimia patients. Anorexia is treated as the most severe when in reality all ED’s are equally deadly. And I truly believe it’s due to fatphobia and the stereotype that overweight people are “lazy” and “just lack self control” (which of course is not true.)
SO REAL It's so sad how BED is ignored. Even when people talk about EDs generally, they often mean just anorexia. And people are suffering so much from those kinds of diseases, and are just getting shamed for "being lazy", when they have a fundamental issue with their psychological health.
BED = Binge Eating Disorder? I also notice that heavy people who have NO heart disease or diabetes, etc, are ignored when they have a legitimate medical concern. Their doctors tell them to "lose the weight!" without taking their specific complaint seriously. This is why you hear about young women having cancer, and it's like "how did no one catch this until now?" Well, they probably went to the doctor for their symptoms, but they were blown off as being "obese" or "depressed" "mentally ill" ... or maybe "have a baby, that will fix the problem!" This particularly happens with heavy set women. I've also experienced being dismissed by a physician because I was "too thin to be sick". It's like women's weight is the first thing doctors pay attention to.
i did not expect to click on a amberlyn reid video and see yarn in the background and get excited at the prospect that someone also hoards as much yarn as i do.
I thought she was having a redemption arch. She was taking ozempic, she was down to the 460's. She was living on her own albeit still relied on her mom. She was building a relationship with her mom. I thought she was getting it together. I wanted her to get it together. Go to therapy, be a better person. Mostly go to therapy and be a better person. She regressed so much because of slommi
ZERO SYMPATHY. She ignored all the red flags. She abandoned and disrespected her support network and is hurting them without care. And.. TBH she would have fed herself to de@th anyway.. none of this is anyone’s fault but her own. She cannot cry trauma and mental health while doing NOTHING about it.
Exactly. She's also enjoyed being her own feeder. This is exactly what she thinks she wants, and she's a horrible human, to boot, so I say, let her suffer the consequences.
I used to do fanart of fat characters for extra cash in college on an FA forum. There were about half the people on there who did just have a preference and sort of defiant appreciation for fat people despite society standards. The other half... Yeah they were varying levels of fetishists and a LOT had specific fantasies about immobility and making their partner helplessly dependent on them, force feeding, becoming immobile and this unable to get away during SA, etc. i would regularly report people and block people sending me art requests about these topics. The non consentual stuff was enough of a problem that i ended up leaving the forum despite making a decent chunk ofoney from just drawing like, fat pokemon and yugioh characters which is frankly an awesome and fun way to make money. But putting up with the other shit was not worth it.
It happens to me. I personally like to draw fat characters, just because I like them and find drawing curves fun, but then I get weird requests from people with feederism fetish wanting me to draw immobile obese characters being forcefully fed and it freaks me out !
Also let's notice how the feeders are always skinny/normal weight, they UNDERSTAND the consequences of obesity and don't want that for themself but will gladly put their partners into an addictive hell. They disgust me.
As with something like “consensual murder”, you have to wonder: is the very consent proof of an inability to freely consent? I’m reminded of the case of Sharon Lopatka, a woman who “consented” to her own torture-murder. She was an extreme masochist with an extreme fantasy life who met a sadist online. They meticulously planned her death at his hand. Amazingly, they went through with it. In a note left behind for her husband, she was very clear that she wanted this, and she didn’t want her killer prosecuted, should he ever be found out. He was found out and convicted. There was a lot of debate about his culpability, a debate that persists to this day. To my mind, it isn’t possible to consent to death. Anyone who agrees to it, with the exception of things like assisted suicide for terminally ill people, is clearly suffering from mental illness, and these concerns preclude them from consenting.
Also... it might be really hard for us to understand why Amber would do this to herself and the things she could do that might be dangerous for her. This is freedom. Until they make overeating illegal, or until amber is declared mentally incapable of making her own decisions, we have to sit back and let her have that freedom. Maybe the desire for "Tommy's" love outweighs her fear of immobility or death. People have the freedom to do a lot of dangerous things that might hurt them. The only thing we can do is watch it until the end to see what happens.
People treating death feederism like a kink really frustrate me. They might say “well what’s the difference between this and impact play, when things can go wrong in impact play too”. The difference is that you are, in practice, not just in role play or fantasy, literally intentionally seeking to disable or kill this person. That is not a kink. Ted bundy wasn’t just a freaky little kinkster. Killing somebody, or enabling their suicide, in PRACTICE (not fantasy or roleplay where everyone is actually safe and the parameters have been negotiated) is just the same as it would be without the sexual element. The sexual element is irrelevant at that point. No, this is not the same as other kinks and fetishes, and yes it is treated differently in the kink community. Again, not talking about fantasy or roleplay or some iteration of feederism that is not connected to causing unnecessary weight gain, causing medical issues or seeking death. Specifically talking about immobility and death feederism. This is not a kink. No it is not the same as impact play. Look at how the community feels about breath play. This is a similar issue, with the added factor that the feeder is literally seeking to disable or kill the victim. I don’t like seeing the kink community dragged into it and thrown under the bus. I actually don’t care if Tommy like to be underneath someone who is already fat. I don’t care that they find fat women attractive. Feederism in certain iterations doesn’t bother me either. I get it. You feel like a provider. None of that is the issue. The issue is the part of it that is nothing to do with kink and everything to do with abuse. If I safe word during impact play, it stops. If you safe word death feederism, you’re still disabled and still barreling towards death.
thank you for being the only person i've seen in this comment section that recognizes feedism is not inherently abusive and death feedism is a very small very extreme subset of it
Oh stop it. Feederism IS a Kink and we need to acknowledge it as such. You saying it's not has the same energy as men going "Not all men!" or "No that person that did something very bad is NOT a Man, because I am a man and I wouldn't do something like this!" You'll probably say I'm kinkshaming and you are absolutely right. Kinks need to be shamed sometimes. Feederism, DDLG, CNC, Slave Kinks, Raceplay - I could go on. All of these things are sick, with Feederism (or Anorexia kinks) being the worst since it leads to a persons death.
Had to look it up; feederism is a paraphilia. Normally I hear the word in context with serial killers, pedophiles and raipists - so I'm not surprised they give me the same uncomfortable feeling. I really liked this video, the way you contemplate the moral of the issues in the videos, how and even if anything should be done to help.
I do think it's worth noting that a paraphilia is just sexual arousal for anything deemed not "normally" arousing - so it also depends on cultural standards. For example, armpit fetishes, foot fetishes, latex, a weird obsession with a certain type of clothing, etc. are all paraphilias. It doesn't need to be abusive or have anything sinister about it
@maeby3258 I think you are right. Maybe I was thinking of paraphilic disorder? It also depends on what is considered "normal". I for one think latex, foot/armpit fetisches and finding certain garments sexy has to be pretty normal. One of the most common titels on certain web sites are "step sister/mom". When I think "unusual sexual behavior" I think of the woman who had sex with the Eiffel Tower.
@@maeby3258 thank you. people acting like this whole fetish is people wanting to murder their partners when 99% of the time it's just celebrating larger bodies.
@@novanettle7497 yes its very subjective! But what you said does make sense. I personally think the line is crossed with these sort of things - when somebody can actually die or become incapable of autonomy
As a fellow British person, I am very proud of you for putting out this video!!! I was watching Tiny Blue Anthropologist's live where she featured your video, so after her video finished i immediately came over to your channel. Im beyond impressed this is articulate, empathetic, non judgemental and educational. Im going to read the attached article on feederism, subscribed before the video ended ❤
ALR is no victim here. Her last girlfriend tried to help her exercise, help her eat better and offered to help pay for weight loss surgery and ALR did nothing but lie and manipulate. This relationship is her dream. She doesn’t want to work, go out, travel, or do much of anything but sit at home scrolling tik tok and eat.
It is sad, how deep into mental illness someone has to be to reject that help so consistently, and it's sad that it's driven her to stay in this relationship that's slowly driving her into her grave. It was her choice, but I have sympathy for her to some degree because there is clearly something wrong with her mentally and now she's in a situation where there's no hope in sight.
I think a big thing to remember on the EC vs Amberlynn forced treatment is that anorexia literally shrinks and damages your brain as your body tries to stay alive. ”Their (anorexics) overall brain volume drops, and parts of the brain thin. Those reductions are very problematic, researchers say, as they suggest people with anorexia are destroying their brain cells or breaking connections between brain areas” Often very ill anorexics have issues with thinking due to the brain damage. That's why a forced treatment is more likely to be needed as the person with an ED might genuinely be unable to make desicions.
People forget the other side of it; those who get pleasure from gaining THEMSELVES. It is more common than feeders as someone who is into it fictionally and interacts with the online furry side of it. Amber knows what she is getting into because she is INTO it and HAS BEEN for YEARS! We have been watching her make bean flicking content for herself for over a decade and has put us on a ride.
21:56 also. Eugenia is definitely a victim of the weird people on the opposite side of this spectrum who encourage and get gratification from watching people lose weight and be morbidly emaciated. There’s been multiple times on livestreams where she was asked to move her heavy makeup box from one part of her room to the other on camera and then she was paid by the commenter. She has also debatedly flashed the camera multiple times on livestream (but I do believe this could just be because none of her clothes fit.) However the box moving is documented many times. There’s compilations of it on yt. After it was called out by many people it eventually stopped. I hate to think about her offlive interactions she may have with creeps like this, money involved or not. Because there are people out there who do this same thing except it’s a lack of food instead of an excess. It may not be a direct partner, but she still may have internet friendships or relationships that are the exact same thing.
Also her mom pretty much encourages her behavior. Sits there and says she's fine and pretty and locks her in the house infa talizing a 30 year old woman
I'm a recovering alcoholic and addict. This would be the same as if I was dating someone who got off on keeping me intoxicated. Horrible, selfish, evil.
Because of her extremely tumultuous childhood and family, I think she stopped maturing around the age of 12 or 13. That's why she's so hedonistic, has no concept of responsibilities or consequence, doesn't save money, she doesn't think about the future or her actions etc etc
They're playing "God" with someone else's life. They have power over that person. They have power over every single thing in that feedee's life, including people coming to see them or not, what food they can have, whether the feedee gets washed or even taken to the bathroom. If you're immobile, you're relying on others to change your diaper or at the very least to get you to the bathroom. Imagine being told that "nope, not right now because you've been bad so you need to stew in your diaper until I say you don't". How demeaning that is! I don't think she knows exactly what she's gotten herself into yet because she can still sort of move. Sort of.
Respectfully i disagree on your take about people who commit horrible crimes could change in prison because they could have a lot of time to reflect on their behaviour... Simply because a lot of them don't feel any empathy then remorse for what they done to their victims ... I wouldn't label Amber's personnality as "crappy" as well. She is not the type to say some rude things then regret it but can't help continuing being a jerk ... no it is way darker she falsely accused Casey of SA for example which is a crime. She is an abuser not a person who is somewhat difficult
Just to help with feelings- I lost my husband in 2022 (March), and I can’t imagine being married again, I am in my 30’s, like ALR. Just posting my personal story experience. Everyone is different, but I was still crying 24/7 2 months after he passed. (He was lost on not good terms. I found out he was sexting while paying women, who were in 3rd world countries, for naked pics and streams. I feel bad for the women tbh.)
He literally loved women with some chunk on them. I was literally 30 pounds heavier than I am now. I weighed 170/180 and started weighing 110 pounds. Literally, I ask myself how I weighed so little. I’m 140 now. I’m not saying I want to weigh 110 lbs, but that’s what I weighed. He picked me up (again, literally) and it scared me. I was honestly terrified, and I know he wouldn’t beat me or anything…he wanted me heavier and I couldn’t understand why. The women were bigger than me, except the lady in Thailand who weighed probably 110… can’t say I understand it.
@@Fe26man I'm so sorry for your loss. I can't imagine how hard it must be to deal with not only losing a loved one, but also having to learn terrible things about them :/
Its a hard call, shes an abusive, narrassistic liar. Do I want anyone to experience any of what shes done? No! Does she deserve it, yeah I think she does but at the sametime I dont want anything bad to happen. After seeing Jordys latest reveal I am very worried for her safety. I have a sneaky suspicion shes earning money on feeder sites, its a hunch, I cant prove it.
People who get defensive of kinks that are actually seriously sick and gross are so creepy to me. I don't believe these people are getting sexual gratification I think they're getting monetary or situational gratification. And the ones specifically looking for someone overweight and everything here is eerie af. Also that guy with the overweight wife wheeling her in, when he's made her breakfast he talks and behaves with her like she's a massive toddler and she almost looks like one trying to get out of bed, it's gross. Tnere is something extremely pedophilic about all of them.
I worked as a DV advocate and I had never even considered this before, but the way you pointed out the power imbalance definitely convinced me that this is a form of DV.
While I will agree that it's MORE than just "Calories In; Calories Out," but, at ALR's size, any little thing ALR stuck to would show MASSIVE loss. I know this, personally. At my highest, I was 520. I started my weight loss about four & a half 4½ years ago, not really knowing what I'm doing, and I'm now down 170#. It's NOT as hard as people like ALR or Chantal like to say it is. You just need to stick to a diet AND exercise plan (I did exercise first, THEN added diet) and keep adding to the routine as things get easier to do to avoid constant plateaus. ALR doesn't even try.
When my mom was obese (almost 350lbs) she started her journey simply by switching soda with water. She still had McDonald's every other day and never excersized. She dropped 50lbs in a few months, got incredibly motivated, and is now running 10 k 3 times a week and doing her first marathon this December. I am so proud of her.
Exactly this! Technically it is calories in less calories out (due to the law of the conservation of energy), but many factors can influence someone's ability to control their calories in (eg medicines that impact their appetite, food addictions, stomach size that impacts when they feel hungry, absorption of food, etc), and their calories out (their metabolism / calories burnt while at rest, their ability to exercise, their ability to build muscle, etc). At Amber's weight, the calories required to maintain that will be so high that, as you said, even if she's drawn the short straw on all these factors, it's definitely possible for her to lose substantial weight
Never pitied her. I love animals. They have shown me more love than a lot of people that have come/gone in my life, but my pets have never wavered. I also work in the animal field and with shelters. The way Amber uses her animals, abuses them by not doing the bare minimum to and seeing her go out when Twinkie has felt sick, in pain is disgusting. My pets are my children and I accept the responsibility to care for them. I have no time or patience for just this, but seeing how amber treated Becky sick as well I don’t care what amber has willingly decided to do with her life and be with her f33d3r
Begging y'all to stop calling her that stupid nickname Amber came up with. Her name is Emily and she's a dangerous nut job. That being said, GREAT video, very informative!!
25:45 Why aren't they held accountable for these people's deaths? There was a german psychopath who killed and ate his partner's human flesh, however, he had the victim's permission for such acts, and he was still arrested.
Im just asking myself how they have money for these unholy amounts of food , while they constantly care for their severely overweight partner without leaving the house 🤷🏼♂️
It is mind boggling. The way we budget food around this house compared to the gross excess of the people discussed in this video is crazy. I guess if you never need money to go out and live your life it's probably fine in the sense that eating IS your life. I don't know, I'll never really understand it.
I have just discovered your channel. I am, ironically, also a psych nurse. The way you handle these extremely sensitive topics so eloquently was refreshing to watch. Amid a sea of RUclips commentary and “tea” channels, yours really stands out. Subscribed!
Just found your channel through this video and this was very well put together. She’s way more vulnerable than she will ever realize and tbh I think maybe she is realizing this isn’t the best situation and maybe that’s why her mental health isn’t so great - she’s finally met her match relationship wise. This is her Salah, kinda in a weird way because Chantal ain’t fooling anyone with her fake marriage. Sadly she won’t do a damn thing about it most likely. She never has. It really feels like we are in a series finale.
Just the idea of this is so unbelievably sickening. I’m a bigger girl, I have a thin boyfriend. He likes how soft I am, how cuddly I am. He even likes my tummy. But it’s never EVER been ANYTHING like this. My bf encourages me to be healthy, to exercise and live a full life. But he also enjoys the way my body is in its current state. He’s openly stated that he likes that I have “meat on my bones.” It helps me love my body, and take photos of myself even in “unflattering” angles because I know he loves me and is attracted to me regardless. This shit feels downright disgusting, abusive, and predatory. Frankly, it makes my skin crawl.
Oh you're so right!! For the longest time I've felt unloveable for my size, and it took a huge toll on my self esteem. I've been in a happy loving relationship for around a year now, and it's so comforting to feel loved for who you are, and not *what* you are. I'm working on myself, but the fact someone is there for you and loves you for *you* is just incredible. I want to get stronger and lose weight, but nowadays I see it as just 'upgrading' myself to develop things I don't have yet. Not as smthn to 'appease' someone. The idea of being objectified in a relationship like this is so scary. What kind of love really is there? (Especially with how the feeders seem to find their victims as....well replaceable) It's so scary, and the progression of it all seems to be a 'process' to strip the person of every bit of their own agency. Their own opinion? Desires? Literal mobility? You can't even do things you want in your free time, or easily spend time with friends or relatives. What even remains? That's no love :(
I hope for her sake she gets out of this relationship, but I know from her past behavior that she's just as likely to bury her head in the sand and ignore the red flags
The best rebuttal against making feederism a crime is if we apply this logic to it's full end, does that mean a spouse that picks up cigarettes for their spouse should be charged with murder? Or what about complex situation where a person has a roommate who appears suicidal but doesn't alert anyone, should they be charged with murder? Is it their job to alert the authorities? Or impose themselves on someone else's life? At the end of the day people have their own choices and we have to honor that rather we like it or not, we can't use our legal system to make other people take responsibility for other people's choices. Does that mean sick individuals get to derive joy off the destruction of other people? Yes, is that unnerving, yes, but ultimately the choice still lies with the person themselves opting to engage in their own destructive behaviors. Amberlynn Reid is a wealthy woman who has had every opportunity to seek professional help and has refused to get the help she needs, despite the wealth she has at her disposal. At some point she has to be given the dignity in people honoring her decisions for her own life. This is who she is, and what she wants, if she didn't she has the means to seek help and change. Is Tommy disgusting, yes, is she responsible for Amberlynn Reid or should have to go to jail for her inevitable demise, no. It would be a gross misuse of taxpayer money and a waste of the courts time.
But there’s a difference between picking up cigarettes and not intervening when someone’s suicidal and encouraging someone to smoke or to kill themselves
@ravenID429 if you're buying cigarettes for someone you're effectively enabling their suicide and encouraging the behavior. Cigarettes are one of the most deadly carcinogens.
Listen, the guy saying "It's like any other self destructive thing, cigarettes, drugs..." Is so absurd to me because, what do you mean that exonerates you??? If someone's partner is encouraging them to do drugs they're seen as a bad partner and enabler. Any psychologist would insist on cutting them off from your life. Wtf.
Some seriously insightful comments on this video, thanks all. Lots of good push back on some of my points too which is always enlightening to read. You guys are all so smart and interesting.
Apologies for a strange cut at 47 minutes ish - I had to remove copywritten material. I'll keep a closer eye out for this in future, please see below links to some of the videos people are asking for:
Monice and Sid: ruclips.net/video/y0gQKGrwFEI/видео.html
Gross feeder dude: ruclips.net/video/NDtygpzybHk/видео.html
Can you add the ability for people in your comments to be able to tag a time so they can share with you comments about moments and you and others can easily click that time, rather than searching for it, so you can get to their reference quicker? Btw, fantastic video and great research and references from other creators! Keep it up! I really hope ALR sees this one in her spare time and thinks hard about it. I doubt she will…but I hope she does. Her mental health isn’t well. If Emily truly loved her and isn’t a feeder, she would have told her to go home by now and focus on her mental health because she can’t be her sole happiness. The fact Emily has not done that tells everybody everything they need to know about Emily! ESPECIALLY because she is an RN in a Psych ward!! This is a very sick, sad, dangerous situation!
@@TheKatarinaGisellehey, you should be able to now :)
You have a very nice, calm voice btw!
I adored this video, I loved the receipts and how calm you said everything. Then this comment won you a new consistent viewer!!
This was so incredibly well done, @rhetorictoast.
The most disturbing thing for me is the nexus between sadism and ownership (misogynist ownership of the female body). I think this is why, at least in my research, feederism is mainly (not always, as shown in ALR's case, but overwhelmingly) between a male feedER and a female feedEE. At its core, whether in a lesbian relationship like ALR and Emily or a heterosexual one, to be a feeder is about sexual gratification watching the *female* body struggle, suffer, and in extreme cases, die. Imho it's not about being "needed" (what feeders like to argue, "I like that she needs me") so much as it is about being in complete control of another person -- a control so intense that it can result in their death.
Even in the best scenario, once someone becomes immobile from feederism, they are no longer able to ethically consent since they now have no option of autonomy
Beautifully said
YES! Amazingly said!
She’s already had a bedbound era too, in absolute denial about it the whole time and denying it to the audience. It’s only a matter of time given how bad her mobility has been before she’s back in that situation. I cannot help but wonder if something in this relationship is why she’s having issues with her mom. Plus if she’s a psych nurse it makes the whole thing feel even more sinister or adds a whole new layer of that to the whole situation.
It's Amber. Nothing of value will be lost.
Absolutely, however, depending on state law, physical incapacitation may not be enough to say they're unable to make sound decisions about how they live. I contest that by saying there are studies out there that show that extreme morbid obesity does affect and disrupt cognitive and executive functioning and decision making so I agree with you completely.
@@HellsFurbyit doesn't really matter (at least imo) if she's a psych nurse, she's a mandatory reporter because she is in the medical field. Which is why my game theory is that once Tommy gets tired of Amber and wants to dump her, she could 5250 Amber and send her off to a similar place where her ex was taken to when she died.
And the only thing really sinister about it is that, if Amber is truly living with Tommy, she has no support or family to bail her out or get into the way of medical intervention.
Tldr, Amber is going to inpatient/rehabilitation, she just doesn't know it yet.
The clip of the male feeder you showed is chilling. His partner is doing what he wants to please him, but what he wants is for her to die slowly and in pain.
If you watch episode one of my 600 lb life, there's a similar couple. Zsalynn is an amazing woman who recognized her struggle and chose to work her way out of it. Her husband spent the entire time complaining, talking shit about her journey, eating unhealthy food in front of her to try and get her to break and eventually abandoned her when he realized she was done being his fetish material. These feeders are absolute ghouls, disgusting wastes of flesh.
If you can find the full documentary that’s from, I highly recommend it. Saw it years ago on the telly and was my introduction to feederism as a concept. It’s wild and really sad
@@tylociraptor8131 I remember that one, I’m so glad that she dumped his ass for a man who actually loves her.
I´m not convinced it´s not a form a sadism tbh
@@tylociraptor8131 holy... that´s shitty. Imagine someone trying to turn their life around, working hard to get healthy, and you just... try to get them down, forcing them back into these unhealthy habits that are difficult to escape in the first place.
All why claiming to love them.
It's so scary to think about being lovebombed by a feeder and then becoming immobile while the mask has slipped and they begin being overtly abusive. How would you even get away from them? You'd be dependent on your abuser for survival, and at the same time the requisites of receiving that care is providing sexual gratification and destroying your health. I really hope anyone in this situation wakes up. It's hard enough leaving an abusive relationship.
I can't imagine how much harder it would be if you can't even physically move.
This is why people in relationships have to retain substantial independence. It's fine to eat what your partner cooks for you, but at least know what he's cooking, at least cook your own food half the time, at least pay attention to your body and eat in moderation. I'm not saying we should suspect our partners of being feeders but I feel like there would be some pretty big red flags. Like if your partner wants to put your food in a funnel instead of on a normal sized plate that might be a sign. Being in a relationship isn't an excuse to completely quit paying attention to your needs. And if you notice you're gaining weight then you've got to act on it. I'm not trying to be mean but I just wish people wouldn't relinquish control over their own lives just because of a romance.
@@mockingbirdnightingale7169I heard a story about one person whose partner was putting a stick of butter in everything they cooked and only found out when the guy's child said something about her being fat for eating so much butter. But idk if that would actually even work, most of the butter would cook off or be deposited as grease that wouldn't stick to the food.
And you still have to eat enough mass to equal the weight gain. People put too much stock into calories when it is a result of a food's flammability and excitatory energy content, not necessarily the energy content your body is able to use by eating it. But thermodynamically you cannot gain more weight than you eat since human beings don't photosynthesize you aren't gaining mass from the air, so the liquids and food you consume are the only place you gain mass.
But realistically if you want to give up on being fed, you can just stop eating because if you are that fat you have a considerable amount of time before you actually die from not eating. Water is the only real consideration but if you are that physically large you should have a considerable amount of water still left in your intestines to be absorbed. If you completely stop eating at that size you could conceivably lose 50 pounds in 4-5 days if you consistently try to move as much as possible, and should at least be able to reach a phone or source of water over the course of 5 days.
@@AnotherAustin-z7b that butter story just gave me trust issues 😨😱
@@AnotherAustin-z7b that's not true the affect that starvation has on your heart can kill you before your body starts using your fat to fuel it, and your brain needs carbs, so you still have to eat enough to support your heart and brain if that's your plan
@@AnotherAustin-z7b that's fair enough, but wouldn't the abuser lash out and potentially endanger them if they just started refusing all food?
The man who took pictures of his wife at different weights and proudly said he labelled them with her size reminded me of a farmer talking about his largest animals 😞 further hammered home by hearing of the girl dressed as a pig, i think a big motivation of this for some is them seeing women as animals
You hit the nail on the head 😮
I saw something similar on insta this week - a lady posted a clip of her husband before and after marriage, he went from normal to obese with a happy emoji. other wives were congratulating her in the comments, some even say they're getting there. crazy!
Maybe it’s just the era, but it reminded me of a serial killer’s trophies
@@izzatihassan1475Woah. You know, this is pretty common, male or female. It’s controlling. ‘You don’t need to be healthy and sexy anymore, don’t want any others looking at you.’ 😢
I don't agree with that, that's borderline beastiality and if they actually saw their partners as animals, there would be a form of dress up.. Some people are just narcissistic, psychopaths or sociopaths who HAVE to have 💯 control over their victims. Whether it's with substance abuse, alcohol, physical, emotional, mental or with keeping them extremely obese or disabled somehow.. If these people don't control their partners with food it would, and probably is another form of control involved... ❤❤❤
the craziest thing about fetishes like this is like...how are you that horny...imagine letting insane horniness be the singular driving emotion behind every decision you make in your life that is so insane 💀
This. This this this. This is how I feel about most fetishes... I love a good kink sure. But there is so much more to life then hedonism. So in my opnion, the people who only think about their desires have a general lack of intelligence.
@@edenskye1870🎯🎯💯💯🎯🎯
its a pathology, addiction, and a paraphilia.
@@pinkpugginz Definitely an addiction in a way. Sexual stimulation releases dopamine and endorphins. Some people hurt other people to get their fix, this is similar
@@pinkpugginzDefinitely a kind of addiction. Some people do a lot to get their fix including hurting others. This is similar.
I truly think feeders are evil. They don't care about anyone except their one pleasure. It's vile.
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They are like murde##rs, she already has one confirmed ki££, now she’s onto her next
I agree 1000 percent. It’s power play and only sociopaths have these kinds of fetishes
One notorious internet feeder, named Philip, encouraged his victim/girlfriend to broadcast her obesity to other feeders while he took the money from that endeavor. Did I mention he was married to another woman the whole time? Did I mention he had a baby with his victim-girlfriend that he was stringing along?
@@SEESAWLTER reminds me of what andrew tate and a few others have been accused of/admitted to doing. using the internet for a new form of pimping, exploiting vulnerable people. that case seems to border on the same sort of 's3x trafficking' crime. this feeder (and those who fetishize anorexics too) are likely flying under the radar of most, because there are cases of parents making it with their children but not doing it explicitly enough, JUST enough to have 'plausible' deniability.
there are so many ways and different types of fetish content that it'd probably be pretty difficult to actually write a law about it, but idk. i'm no lawmaker, but i feel like it should be illegal and needs to be cracked down on the same way pimps are/were. hope it happens soon to prevent as many potential victims as possible. 😬
30 seconds in I just want to say "she has victims... but she is also a victim" is SO true. People on the internet and especially in this community have this weird idea in their heads that only good people can be victims of something.... Not true. The world isn't black or white. Amber is a bad person. Amber is an abuser, frankly. Amber is also a victim (of certain things). It all co-exists
The idea that only perfect, harmless, innocent people can be victims is why so many normally flawed people stay in abusive situations because "i've done bad things before so clearly I'm not a victim and I deserve this". I'm tired of it!
Hurt people hurt people old saying but it applies
I’m curious what has Amber done ?
@@PoppinHoopsso much to try and explain in a comment. I would recommend watching Mr Snowflakes series “shaped by the algorithm” and the couple of videos he has called “victims of an empath” to come to your own conclusions on Amber
@ thanks I’ll watch them 😊
Feeders are far creepier than I realized. Holy hell.
theirs different kinds of feeders, these are the ones that are into death
@@namjoonie936that’s still so odd
@ oh totally
@@namjoonie936all types of feeders are gross. What’s so attractive about your gf potentially becoming disabled due to weight?
@@namjoonie936Doesn’t matter what kind, they’re all creeps
About your argument on Eugenia. She had a few friends force her into a 5150. Her ex best friend Jaclyn Hill (sorry if i misspelled her name) had Eugenia go into the 5150. She admitted to her being unhealthy and was on the mend. But now she is even more malnourished than ever. I am almoat convinced her mom enjoys her daughter being that skinny. Because no loving mother would allow their child to be that thin and do nothing about it.
* Jaclyn Glenn
Would this be considered Starverism?
@@VERONICA_1683sorry, totally random, but you are so pretty! I love your hair and makeup!
A lot of people speculate that Shane Dawson "helped" her to relapse with his documentary, when he visited her Eugenia was feeling WAY better and then suddenly became worse
The problem is that you cannot force someone to recover if they don’t want to/aren’t ready to recover. The physical appearance is a symptom of mental illness
It's also extremely sus to me that Tommy/Emily/Willow has gone by so many names in such a short period of time. It's common con behavior.
This!!!!
Exactly it’s so creepy
I was thinking the same thing.
not using your real name in fetish content is pretty standard.
how come we don’t penalize feeders whose partners died the same way we do with people who influence others to kill themselves? it’s the same thing
watching those feeders talk so freely about how some of their partners have died of obesity related diseases is so unfair they should be penalized in some way
Enablers that encourage the furtherance of one’s addiction are dangerous and it’s going to take a serious case of feeder-kink-death situation with overwhelming evidence of enabling for laws to be applied against them
Its like a legal form of premeditated murder?? So bizarre
“Lesbian death feeders” is a great band name
I wonder if we can get a few people together- I'll play the triangle.
I’ll do guitar. Maybe vocals.
Can i be the guitarrist?
@ I’m a drummer so this all works for me
@@R.hetoric maybe even the.... pink triangle...
I think the opinions on this tend to center around the ethics of sadism, but they are all missing one key factor: Amberlynn is severely mentally ill, including an actual eating disorder/ food addiction.
This is not someone who enjoys spanking a consenting partner.
This is a predator playing into the delusional desires of the mentally ill.
24:20 I think this brings it up so well. The example with the alcoholic is so severe, it really does not respect the helplessness in being an alcoholic, and also denounces the responsibility you have as an enabler
She is addicted to food but can we trust anything she says about her mental health?
@@iain9757 binge eating disorder IS a mental illness! Even without speculating about anything else, this fact is enough for the power dynamics to be sooo messed up in her relationship
@@iain9757she's openly said she had bpd and most likely has binge eating disorder. Her past partners have confirmed this as well
It's why she falls for love bombing so often, it's common for people that have bpd
@@sagegalloway5407she has also said she doesn’t have them along with saying she has other mental health issues then back tracking. I think doing that alone shows she is mentality ill.
@@catpoke9557there’s also a contract of agreement.
My first relationship, real relationship, although long distance, (we were 16, he would visit) was with a feeder. And I was average weight. He didn't let me know until we were over 6 months in. And when he told me it was this big thing for him, he expected me to comply to. What I wanted for my body did not matter at all. He needed to hear me eat on the phone. He needed me to "grow." He belittled me because I didn't want to, eventually put his own life in danger and starved himself to be smaller than me and told me to look at what I was doing to him.
He had tantrums about how I didn't want to be a princess in a room who wouldn't have to do anything so long as he could fatten me up and take care of me.
It was absolutely abusive. It felt like there was no love involved. But before I refused and he was soft launching poor health, it felt like there was. Gaining my love and trust was just the first step in exploiting his dangerous desires on me, and he loved me as long as he felt like I was on his path.
I'm glad it happened to me young. It really helped me develop a sixth sense to grooming.
It's hard to diagnose the love as real or not real when you're in it.
I feel like with feeders the love is usually conditional but it's something you can't know until you stray from the plan. So long as you are going with it you're going to feel like there is love there, because the love they feel comes with the compliance of eating yourself to immobility or death.
If you are worried you are with a feeder, make a plan, celebrate your first 5lb weight loss milestone. Even if it didn't happen. Say you can't wait to lose more, you have a plan, and clock the response.
It doesn't even have to be true. They will usually out themselves with worry. Say you are drinking a glass of water and a handful of almonds before meals. It's honestly quite an experience watching them find ways to take those habits away from you or talk you out of them.
this is a great comment! the advice i mean. as for your story i’m so sorry that happened to you :( proud of your strength!
That is generally good advice, but if you’re already skinny your partner would probably still be worried if you planned on loosing weight and they would be reasonable to have those feelings. I’m really sorry you had to go through that, Ive been groomed too and I know how draining it is and how it fucks you up for years afterwards.
@@Kirstenkriskatif you are already skinny it would be very strange to end up with a feeder because they wouldn’t be attracted to you to begin with or may think that getting you fat is going to be really hard or assume you wouldn’t want to.
@ that makes sense but considering the mindset of some feeders it wouldn’t surprise me if they liked the “challenge”. I feel like part of the appeal would be the drastic change in their “partner”.
@@SoyNicoleGreco he probably wanted to make as many women fat as possible. its a sign of power beyond fetish. he wanted to watch her die slowly
I am actually so disturbed by this concept. That guy talking about what fantasies he has about his wife and her getting bigger? Documenting the whole thing like a lab experiment😵💫 its like he doesn't even see her as a person, and she's just sat there listening to him talk about her like shes an overgrown zucchini he's been growing in his yard??
I watched the whole documentary and i think, this was the most disturbing thing i EVER watched. While watching it and reading in the comments, that the woman died at age 54, i felt like i was watching my first snuff film.
I do not blame him for his f3t1sh, aunce we can nit vhose, whst turns us on. But there is a big fat line, that should never be crossed. And if your s3xuall desire includes harming your partner, it HAS to stay in your fantasies. Like what you want. Dream of what ever you like. But NEVER ever make those real. And it doesn't matter, if the partner gives consent. Doing something harmfull to your partner is wrong. I am into BDSM. And there are THREE "pillars". Safe. Sane. Consensual. Living feederism isn't safe, since you can not stop the "play" and it will take YEARS, to turn around the damage that is done. And some of that damage just CAN'T be reversed. And noone can ever convince me, that feeding your partner to death or into serious health issues could be sane in ANY way.
In my oppinion, only soziopaths, would ever even think about making those phantasies real.
What is the name of the documentary in question? @@erlandaislund4594
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What is the documentary called?
@@EmilyHarris-c2s "fat girls and feeders". It is here on youtube.
its wild to think they also think enabling an alcoholic is morally okay 💀
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good video, unfortunately AmberLynn is so desperate she will accept any partnership regardless how many red flags there are. She is a truly awful person that mistreats anyone she comes in contact with but I think she has met her match with Tommy. I think after watching her over the years it seems clear she is mentally ill, she had a horrific childhood and has been let down by everyone who should have supported her but she won't seek help, admits she needs it but wont do anything about it
"She won't seek help,admits she needs to but won't to anything about it."
As an on again off again Amberlynn watcher I remember myself and others feeling like she would tease getting mental help and then disregard whatever the therapist or phycologist would say. She would shop around until she found someone who agreed with her view and would tell her she should do what she wants. At the time I assumed she was "trolling" and I still think to an extent she is. However, I think she had fooled herself into believing she is in the right.
I can’t agree she is particularly ‘mentally ill’ beyond terminal l@ziness. She has never matured beyond the bare minimum for a child, and - as you note - that’s on her.
I don't think she had a horrific childhood. I think that's her way to get attention/pity. I'm not up to date with the ALR story, but I remember her telling about her childhood and how bad it was and at some point she told a story about her mom cooking stuff for her birthday and organizing a party and all that. I don't doubt that not everything was perfect in her childhood, but I think it is far from what she wants her audience to believe. After all, most of what the public knows comes from her mouth and she's a habitual liar
On her latest video she let the audience know she googled a psychiatrist and was thinking of reaching out. lol, I’ve been watching her since 2018. Same old story nothing changes.
Ambie has come right out said she does not want help nor does she want to lose weight. . She actually comes off as typical jealous of siblings. THEN the disconnect of her over reacting to what or what better her brothers received in her mind. She , being in the " system," be as a kid sees the good stuff many kids , in MY area, some others, DO get while in foster care, group homes, trips, clothing allowance, A child doesn't understand clothing is needed, not just a shopping trip ! Of course kids in system brag, trying to look good, so other kids see this lifestyle as privilege. I remember my nephew went thru this , wanting to go live in the local home, as in his eyes, they get everything....his parents were my asking like $150K a yr..vaycays, on & on.. the concept of family, roof over head basics escapes kids. Ambie wanted to be taken care of..still does. Expected to be cared for. Yet She has no idea of how to be taking care of herself let alone care from another. Yes, as a human being she, all of us deserve the best .there is a trade off Ambie is willing to give up. Willing to loose herself, to be " taken care of" .she is not interested in any work period.She has always been taken care of, expects it. Knows no other way of life, is not interested either. I don't feel sorry for her. Deserves best life, yes, deserves to have her backside kissed, NO!! These two have found their lives in each other, lives NOT actual love of another human being. Amber is selling herself online as she always has.
While I don’t *want* Amber to die, I do feel like there’s only so much you can do for a person before you start to withhold sympathy. She’s had every resource and every opportunity to change her life, her body and her mental health but she stubbornly refuses to do any of it. It’s very telling that many of her ‘haydurs’ actually start out as supporters
Well said "Jawbone_666" lmao
this
Exactly how I feel about Eugenia Cooney. I don’t want her to die, but I can’t seem to care anymore.
Well said!
I can’t really see the difference between feederism and that girl that convinced her boyfriend to go through with his suicidal plan.
This is just slower.
The girl was convicted of involuntary manslaughter and only served 11 months in jail.
I don’t understand how she got such a light sentence. Typically, involuntary manslaughter would be if you accidentally hit someone with your car and killed them, but it was caused by some type of negligence.
She knew what she was doing and it was intentional.
I was going to comment the same thing. That case is what came to my mind as well. It’s like a slow motion suicide encouraged by another person.
I’m sure the families eyes will be opened.
i thought of her too! her name was michelle carter. the victim’s name was conrad roy; RIP
@@Ann-hv1rm I don’t believe in thought crime. I also believe that we don’t choose what preferences or attractions we have. So, I don’t condemn anyone for those things. If someone is having thoughts of harming themselves or others they need help and prevention.
My problem will always be with harmful actions.
Also, I just want to make clear (I’m not saying you do this), but there are other ways to get someone to participate in harm without force. There are many forms of control and manipulation that would mean that person is not fully consenting.
@ no you misunderstood me. If your actions are not causing harm, then you’re fine. I suppose in my first message I should have been more specific that it’s not all feeders.
Feederism is one of many paraphilias. These sexual disorders often carry with them hyper-sexuality, and are characterised by harmful sexual obsessions. People with these sexual disorders obsess and think about their particular paraphillic interest at a much higher rate than those with a healthy relationship to their sexuality.
This is what pisses me off about people who accuse others of “kink shaming”. The lines between being a bit kinky, and these full-blown paraphilias are too blurred and people open the net far too wide in an attempt to be ‘inclusive’.
For these reasons, it doesn’t surprise me Tommy moved on so quick. She needed a new victim to fuel the fetish. I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s into some other weird stuff, considering paraphilias tend to coalesce. If someone has one, they likely have one or several others.
THE MIDDLE PARAGRAPH YESS THANK YOU FOR SAYING WHAT PEOPLE REFUSE TO ADMIT
I completely agree with you, very well said. It's crazy how so many people are so desperate to be viewed as "inclusive" that they would rather enable deviant and dangerous people so that they don't appear to "kink shame". First off, what's wrong with shame in the first place? Obviously in many cases shame has no place (for example victim blaming), but It's not necessarily a bad thing, some people (cluster b) ony really rein in a lot of their horrible behaviors due to shame, so it's not inherently a bad thing. The black and white thinking that's become so prevelant nowadays is honestly scary.
You have hit the nail on the head, but you also have to remember it's the same for normal kinks if you have one kink you probably have two or more. The whole thing of being inclusive has literally damned many communities and will tarnish them for years to come.
there are extremists in every kink community. not every feedist dynamic is based on sadism, abuse, shame, humiliation, growing unhealthy or immobile... people make these exact criticisms about BDSM. it's all about consent. god forbid someone consider a woman might enjoy submitting to any of this (MANY MANY MANY DO)
@@youtube.account-d9vLiterally. Like I’m sorry, no one is going to convince me that grown adults interested in dressing like babies and wearing nappies is somehow reflective of a healthy relationship with their sexuality.
I think it’s really important we call the gf Emily. She continues to try to go by different names. This convolutes the situation Her name is legally Emily and she should be called that. Amber calls her Tommy and apparently no one knows why. Willow , Oak etc are not her name
Completely agree!! IMO she uses “nicknames” because the online feeder community know her and she seems to change names with every new victim!! Also Amber had no problem dead naming Casey and calling him a “once was person”(like he’s some kind of alien) so why is anyone respecting Emily ?!?!?
@Veronica_1683 Amber being transphobic is not an excuse to use a name other than what someone wants to be called. That's agreeing to be just as shitty as she is. We know this person's legal name, but unless they want to be called that, I won't be using it. My best friend has not legally changed her name, but we call her by the name she's been using for 20 years. Another friend of mine is trans and I would be furious if someone used her dead name just because they don't like her.
@@Aster_Risk Emily/Tommy said that Amber made up the name Tommy and likes calling her that !! Emily didn’t say she “prefers” to be called Tommy !! Amber can call her whatever she wants the fact still remains that she is a very sick and twisted person!
@@Aster_Risk Emily publicly said she doesn’t know why Amber calls her Tommy. In addition, that’s all good and well unless you are using diff names in diff forums to hide your real identity. Your example of your friend is NOT what we are talking about in this situation at all. That’s comparing apples to oranges. I knew someone would make this stupid argument. Sorry but you’re wrong.
@@VERONICA_1683 exactly. It’s all used to confuse. Willow. Oak . And you’re right - she publicly stated she doesn’t know why Amber calls her Tommy. She answered that question on instagram. When she made her art she put her name as Emily. Not Tommy.
Hearing a feeder say he's sexually gratified by the sound of his partner wheezing like they smoked 2 packs a day for 40 years... I quit smoking so I could make my partner quit with me because the thought of hearing them breathe like the sick old smokers I hear at my job in a hospital someday horrified me so much that it chewed on me every single day until we quit. These people are devoid of love and a human soul.
Some people really here saying where is her mother ... as if her mother can do anything about her she is 30 years old and really heavy her mama can't force her to end this relationship even if she wants to, lol
It's ben worse, her mother was actively helping her loose weight and Amber abandonned her and any effort to loose weight to move in with a feeder the second she could.
She will be 34 in December.
agreed, Amber is not mentally challenged or anything like that. She is impulsive and very stupid and no-one puts baby in a corner.
@@rustymetalhead7714 Yep😂
@@rustymetalhead7714 not baby in the corner🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️😅😅😅great comment!
Hopefully this will end in tears for Amber and not an actual coffin. I say that because I really believe at this point it's going to be one or the other. I really don't like Amber. I think she's a generally terrible human being. However, I don't want her to die. Whether it's because of her own choices or not. I do believe that at least on some level Amber knows that Emily is a feeder but she has spent practically her whole life ignoring reality so that she can exist in her own little fantasy world where she lets herself believe things that aren't true and vice versa to protect and to feed her massive ego. You know, like how she'll let herself believe that Emily really loves her instead of believing that Emily is most likely just using Amber to fulfill her own sick twisted fetishes. I think it's really concerning that Amber has hardly uploaded since being at Emily's and regardless of what Amber says, of course Emily isn't going to want Amber to film what's going on because while Amber may not want to acknowledge what's happening, her audience is going to keep shoving it in her face which at some point no matter how unlikely might actually get through to Amber and Emily wouldn't want that.
Also, we all know that Amber uses her RUclips channel as a way to trauma dump like it's her therapist in a way and Emily isn't going to want that either because the more mentally unstable Amber is and the more alone she feels the easier she will be to manipulate and control. It's also so scary that Emily is a nurse and a psych nurse at that but alarmingly I've found that people like Emily (psychopaths) frequently seek out these jobs where they hold a certain power over vulnerable people. I mean when you are in a hospital you are dependent on the nurses to take care of you and help you to recover from whatever illness/accident has brought you there so you're for all Intense and purposes, bed bound, and while these people may not be extremely large or large at all it's still having another person being dependent on you which is a part of what a feeder seems to want and very much enjoy. But not in the, I love helping people way. It's in the, I want people to be completely incapable of taking care of themselves so they have to depend on me, way. And that's also extremely creepy and dangerous.
Your comment is very well done. The point you made about Amber living in her own fantasy world is spot on. I don't actually feel like Amber knows what love is. It's going to end badly if she stays with Emily
Good video. Some points I'd like to add are:
- Eygenia has already been 51/50'd
- Emily AKA "Tommy" is also a registered nurse... A PSYCH NURSE 🤯 therefore, amplifying the power dynamic in their relationship massively.
- The channel "Oh Lordy it's Jordy" is one of the best channels out there when it comes to the Amberverse. He's hilarious and VERY well versed with all the lore.
Thanks again for covering this! ❤ Subscribed ❤
Jordy for the investigative aspect, salty crab for the summary, you guise have to realize for the editing and the ankle to scratch that sassy hateful mean girls itch 😅
Edited for spelling
@strahlerin HAHA love it! So succinctly put! 👏🏻
Salty Crab is definitely another good one! 🦀
@@AnnoyedAndConfused Love the Ankle, he’s amazing
@@colinejaynethe ankle is a little meeeen 😂
@ YESSSS hahah, love that quote it’s too funny. I love watching his retro reacts before I go to bed.
To be fair, ALR is a bit of a self-feeder, herself. Look at how she eyes herself when she eats on camera. She's not just posing for the "audience," she's actually enjoying it. This is just the natural conclusion of her choices. She has no one to blame but herself, and I wash my hands of her.
As someone who's still morbidly obese, myself (still, down 170# since I started 4½ years ago; 180 from my highest), I was ALWAYS afraid of getting together with a feeder, since learning what they were at 17. They're not enablers. They only see their partners as objects to be used for their pleasure then discarded as soon as the partner dies or actively tries to lose weight. "Tummie"'s not the exception, she's the rule. That's why she was talking with ALR as her previous partner was dying. While I will firmly stand for the fact that what consenting adult humans do behind closed doors is not my place to stop, it is still our right to judge & even condemn it, especially when they make it public.
I don't think there is really any good reason to care so much about sex as to enable this from either side.
This is basically the same kind of mental gymnastics used to justify grooming, or pedophilia. Wanting something sexually is not justification for doing it.
I agree with the idea that alr is a bit of a self feeder. You can see the difference between her and foodie beauty. Fb always looks up when she eats, won’t look at herself when she does it. While amber seems to genuinely derive pleasure.
She eyes herself on camera the entire time the camera is on. She's just vain.
imagine surviving cancer just to die at the hands of a disgusting degenerate.
Babe, not only did she never even have cancer, she put HERSELF completely in this situation. This is what she CHOSE.
@@SpookyBlueNStuff I`ll say it, thank the lord people like her, Chantal and others exist so it can show people what happens when you make the absolute worse decisions possible.
@@SpookyBlueNStuffno, she did have cancer. It’s like one of the only things she hasn’t lied about.
Horrifying. & tragic.
And, evil beyond evil, in the case of the degenerate.
In my opinion.
@@SpookyBlueNStuff
She had cancer.
The gal talking about how "fat ladies were considered beautiful during a period" is gross because she doesn't understand that it wasn't them being "immobile". It was just them being "fat" showed that they had MONEY enough to get fat when most people of the time were lucky if they got a single meal in a day! "I guess" means she hasn't actually looked at the REAL history behind those paintings. The commoners despised people of that size because it meant they were wealthy. Hmmm...sort of like the rich people flashing their wealth nowadays. Back then it was with food and now it's with fancy cars, houses, branded everything, and traveling.
If they actually looked at those paintings they would also see that the women in them aren’t even that fat. In America they would weight less than the average woman
have you ever seen a paleolithic venus figurine??? do you really think fat people only exist because of ew capitalist immorality?
@@purplebluecrow5082 yes they were chubby/average at best, something of an 22/23ish bmi today
None of the bigger feedees seem truly happy. They seem scared. Am I the only one thinking that?
I believe that at some level they must know that if they comply and fulfill their feeder’s fantasies by becoming big to the point of immobility, and the feeder then leaves them, they’re helpless. Or even if the feeder leaves them at a smaller weight it will be difficult to find a new partner. I think they must have to work very hard on silencing the perfectly rational voices in their head that says this is a terrible idea that puts them at a significant disadvantage if it goes wrong - in other words, overriding normal self-preservation alarms. No wonder they’re scared.
Off subject- your voice is so lovely and soothing
For real, she should narrate audiobooks
That feeder with the pictures, makes me think of serial killers with souvenirs of their victims😦😬
As a fat woman (morbidly obese according to medecine) feeders are my worst fear and my biggest ick.
Having a preference for fat bodies is one thing but PURPOSELY making them gain more weight to the point where your partner gets bed ridden and can’t do anything on their own because you gain some kind of gratifications is disgusting. You CAN’T call this love.
Loving your partner the way they are and/or having body preferences are extremely different than what Tommy and other "feeders" do, you're right. When it comes to true love, even if someone prefers a certain body type, they'll always support and prioritize their partner's health over *anything* aesthetic or sexual.
Right now i am on a weightloss journey and i watch that feeder documentary every time i want to throw the towel.
My fear if beeing atrsctive to a feeder, is something that really helps me to say "no" to fastfood and sweets.
I was just going to say this. When I saw the pics in the beginning, that obviously was very convincing to Rachel - I was like - ok, how do we know this is "feeder" behavior and not just someone who loves a fat person? The scary thing for me is that it's pretty hard to tell tbh. I love people who don't give a sh*t about what their partners look like and even are very proud of them, because to me that says they really love them for something deeper. This whole thing is very scary. I mean that old guy who is creepy af, he's honest about what he is, so easier to avoid I guess.
@ Yes it's very hard to tell. That's why fat women are vulnerable to this because at first you think "Nice this person loves me for who I am". But when you realize that feeders truly don't care about their partner it's sad. Lots of feeders have one or even multiple partners who passed away due to their weight...It's insane.
This feeder sht is so wierd. There's another lolcow streamer girl who has a feeder donor. She's broke and needs the money, so she's gained 20lbs in a couple months or less. All she talks about is her wieght gain, she eats almost constantly and she used to have a near perfect figure. It's really sad.
Who?
who is this? that's so sad 😢
do not say who lol youll just send more creeps her way . i hope she gets the financial help she needs in a real way
@@oliviahyerobrine yeah good point actually. I just hope whoever it is ,gets help x
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that if she’s into it tbh
Also, at a certain point there’s a subtle coercion because if you’re immobile and you do something to displease your feeder (saying you want to lose weight or refusing food) then they can literally just leave and you’re fucked. There’s no way that doesn’t play a part in a lot of these dynamics either consciously or unconsciously.
I think she is miserable where she is now, and she knows she's in trouble with Tommy. But she can't fly home, and she has nobody to take her back to Oklahoma. Her mom probably said make up your mind if you really want to move there, I'm not driving that twice!
I think she's pissed, Tommi has a job, a house and a car. Amber's ex's didn't have those things so Amber provided those things so she could dangle those things over their heads to control them. For once Amber isn't the dominant one in the relationship.
Why can't she fly home ???
@@mckinneymindy she says she's too big for the airplane seats. Idk, probably embarrassed.
@@mckinneymindybecause she’d take up 3 seats and probably not be able to fit down the aisle
She absolutely could fly home if she wanted to. She just refuses to grow up. Where theres a will theres a way, especially when you have money. Amber has no will.
I can only imagine what it must be like for someone to struggle with their weight their whole life due to additction, constantly have everyone encouraging them to lose weight, and then suddenly have someone who is actually approving of you eating and gaining weight. And that's one of the big issues of Feeders, the vulnerability of their victims to anyone who will offer them unconditional support and approval. It’s especially chilling how AL calls it "a gentle love I've never had before." It's gentle because her partner doesn't want her to do any of the hard, painful work required to address her mental and physical issues.
Sitting there, as the wife of an FA, hearing publicly that all they care about is the fat, not the person... It's tragic that people's low self esteem would lower them to agreeing to be just that - fat. Replaceable fat in the eyes of their partner. A real partner would do what they can to find the right mental health help for their food loving/addicted partner. I know it's very hard in many places but still.
Culpability is 100% there. Manipulation, relying on "consent" as the OK to go ahead, no matter where that consent comes from deep within the feedee's psyche. Horrible.
On the other hand, people who love them (family, friends) can only do so much. I don't even know if Mammalynn knows any of this.
As for wishing death on someone because they are unlikable or even worse - not a fan. Amber is actually living her karma - she's not happy, she can't be as long as her happiness depends on others (people or food). Same for Foodie.
Thanks for a well done video!
You married a fat admirer and you're talking about the self esteem of fat people instead of the mind state of your spouse lol
The sad part is that she had that with Jade. Jade tried her darn best to push Amber to get better, to get help, to be more active, and to lose weight. And Amber gushed over these things for most of the relationship only to throw it all away because she doesn't care to change.
What’s an FA? Sorry, not familiar.
@@blingqueen2235in this instance, fat admirer.
@@blingqueen2235Fat Admirer
13:13 this is unserious but two months is the exact amount of time it took hamlets mom to marry his uncle, something which made hamlet mad cause it was such as short time
I was not expecting a Hamlet reference here. Mythical FYP pull
Like aside from personal feelings, the rule thats common among many countries is that you have a one year grieving period after a partner or a parent death. Not just because of society but its generally enough time to accept the situation and come back to your usual life. Two months is not enough to even process the abscence of a close person, nevermind the grief of losing them, accepting that you have to keep going as usual WITHOUT that person forever.
Nevermind when that person is your partner, someone so close you share everything. If it takes you only two months to get over the death of your partner and finding a new one - you never loved that person. Even animals grieve, and they dont have the luxury to take a breather and stop fighting for survival.
And then also the problems and insecurities that can come up if you dont take enough time to grieve, stuff that WILL influence every relationship youll later have
Thats too much stuff for so little time
I already saw this two times. So full of information and great takes.
Agreed, so concise and researched. Amazing.
Another difference between Eugenia and Amber is that Amber broadcasts her food issues often and openly displays her ED’ed behavior online. Eugenia pretends hers don’t exist and just makes the content she wants while existing in the body she has. You could argue she does some things subliminally (or barely so) but the fact is she doesn’t make any content directly & vocally addressing or promoting her ED whereas Amber does. Just thought id point that out
I feel terrible for that girl. It makes me uncomfortable just to see her.
😅😅😅😅 this is a misguided comment . eugenia absolutely has been caught showing off to ed fetishists in her streams and she has broadcasted her ed issues online , she just tries to be way more subtle than amberlynn . eugenia is suffering in her own right at the hands of her mother . its a weird comparasion
Eugenia absolutely caters to fetishists. It's why she is always "accidentally" flashing her underwear or her private parts. Not only that, but Eugenia's content targets children. Eugenia is way, way worse in my opinion, if she was large, people would be a lot more willing to condemn her, but people excuse her predatory behaviour and just feel sorry for her instead.
you beat me to it!! well said!!🩶
They have different mental illnesses around food. Anorexia is a whole different game. They're both awful, and I wouldn't wish either on the worst person. These diseases kind of make you a terrible person, having some level of fame over it and all the pushback won't help either one. I have a harder time wrapping my head around Ambers situation, but recovering from anorexia, I look back and omg I was a b*tch.
Amber is still emotionally a child.
All cluster B individuals are emotionally immature by choice
@@maenad1231plus untreated, refuses to go to get ANY help, and it likely doesn’t help that allegedly Emily/tommy is a PSYCH nurse. These two are probably a terrible detrimental combo together.
@@maenad1231 i genuinely feel sorry for you if you think that
@@maenad1231 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
By CHOICE - girl do you have any idea how stupid that sounds ! Yes we definitely choose this 😂
It’s a choice for sure
@@maenad1231that's so not true. I have a few friends with cluster B and they're trying so hard and genuinely making a positive impact around them. My friend with aspd started helping with research for personality disorders to make things better for himself and others like him. I really hope you can see the other side and stop generalizing everyone. Everyone is not Amberlynn
A feeder arguing they can have a consensual relationship/situation with the feedee feels like a dealer saying they can have a consensual relationship with one of their addicted customers.
This!
How is there consent? It is essentially enabling someone to unalive themselves... Where are the ethics?
A lot of feeders are aware.
People truly believe as long as you are above 18 and in your right mind you can consent to anything, even if it is being manipulated into death for a fetish
@@abytequiero it's mind boggling, how could someone watch that happening to someone they love? The feedees are not human to feeders, just fuel to their fire
@@abytequiero
But, to "consent" to such a thing kind of SAYS you are not in your right mind, yeah???
In my opinion.
AND, she DOES HAVE pretty clear, &, if I remember correctly, some well-documented mental illnesses, right?
I don't think she is in her right mind, by any measure.
In my opinion & experience.
Amber is so dumb. “She isn’t a feeder, she and her partner hear made feeder content for money” is like saying “I never did porn, I just had sex on camera and posted it online for money”. How can you deny doing something and then list step by step how you do that exact thing you just denied…
She strikes me as having a pretty low IQ. I wonder if she was special needs student, if she ever finished high school.
Amber is very well into her adult years and is 100% mentally competent to make her own decisions. People have warned her many times. She has resources to go home. But she will stay with the feeder. She is destined to find out what happens. FAFO
Addiction is a disease, she has neglected her mental health (everything aside from her addiction) for years, and when somebody is in the throws of addiction…it doesn’t matter what they know or their age. She is doomed right now, just like Eugenia.
I don’t think that Amberlynn is 100% mentally competent. She’s seriously ill with multiple mental illnesses that control her behavior. She needs inpatient intervention. She’s responsible for her current circumstances to the extent that she hasn’t gotten herself help for so many years and help is available, but at this point I don’t think she’s competent enough to consent to this.
I dated a guy who is a functional alcoholic. I found that i drank waaaay more than was good for me because he kept bringing me glasses of wine.
I can't dodge responsibility, but it made it way easier to justify drinking way too much. Thankfully i realized this was very unhealthy and ended the relationship and was just pushing my addiction tendencies.
i love fat women but feeders are fucking CRUEL. Do not force weight on someone who doesn’t want it, especially when they also don’t know what you are doing to them. Absolutely disgusting
real
20:51 unfortunately as someone who has suffered with anorexia and is now recovered, A lot of these feelings stem from the stereotypes and the conditioned fatphobia we all have had engrained in us by media and society. Within the ED community it’s very clear to this day that people who have BED are taken less seriously than those with anorexia even though they are both equally as deadly. Even when it comes to doctors, insurance companies and many treatment facilities. Patients with BED are less likely to receive the same amount of care benefits as someone with anorexia. I was in inpatient facilities twice for two years total and. I only ever met 3 peers who suffered from BED. It is extremely hard to be admitted EVEN AS A MINOR and to receive actual help for BED. It is sickening. All three of my peer with BED were dropped by insurance extremely quickly and so were many bulimia patients. Anorexia is treated as the most severe when in reality all ED’s are equally deadly. And I truly believe it’s due to fatphobia and the stereotype that overweight people are “lazy” and “just lack self control” (which of course is not true.)
SO REAL
It's so sad how BED is ignored. Even when people talk about EDs generally, they often mean just anorexia. And people are suffering so much from those kinds of diseases, and are just getting shamed for "being lazy", when they have a fundamental issue with their psychological health.
BED = Binge Eating Disorder?
I also notice that heavy people who have NO heart disease or diabetes, etc, are ignored when they have a legitimate medical concern. Their doctors tell them to "lose the weight!" without taking their specific complaint seriously. This is why you hear about young women having cancer, and it's like "how did no one catch this until now?" Well, they probably went to the doctor for their symptoms, but they were blown off as being "obese" or "depressed" "mentally ill" ... or maybe "have a baby, that will fix the problem!"
This particularly happens with heavy set women.
I've also experienced being dismissed by a physician because I was "too thin to be sick". It's like women's weight is the first thing doctors pay attention to.
12:26 small correction! 1 tonne = 1000 KILOGRAMS, not pounds!! 1 tonne = 2200 pounds approximately, so Colleen was only about half a tonne
I literally came just to say this
This is so crazy, imagine a human being weighting a TONNE
i did not expect to click on a amberlyn reid video and see yarn in the background and get excited at the prospect that someone also hoards as much yarn as i do.
This video needs to go viral in GorlWorld!
three days late I got this in my gorlworld feed ..great video!
I thought she was having a redemption arch. She was taking ozempic, she was down to the 460's. She was living on her own albeit still relied on her mom. She was building a relationship with her mom. I thought she was getting it together. I wanted her to get it together. Go to therapy, be a better person. Mostly go to therapy and be a better person. She regressed so much because of slommi
ZERO SYMPATHY.
She ignored all the red flags. She abandoned and disrespected her support network and is hurting them without care.
And.. TBH she would have fed herself to de@th anyway.. none of this is anyone’s fault but her own.
She cannot cry trauma and mental health while doing NOTHING about it.
Sociopathic
Doesn't sound like any more of a goal d person than amberlynn is, tbf
perfectly said!
Exactly. She's also enjoyed being her own feeder. This is exactly what she thinks she wants, and she's a horrible human, to boot, so I say, let her suffer the consequences.
@@bubullibooooo9928oh how moral and saintly you are. shall we all bow down to you your highness
Amberlynn looks sooooo much like Emily's fiancé that passed.
Ikr
Freakyyy
I used to do fanart of fat characters for extra cash in college on an FA forum. There were about half the people on there who did just have a preference and sort of defiant appreciation for fat people despite society standards. The other half... Yeah they were varying levels of fetishists and a LOT had specific fantasies about immobility and making their partner helplessly dependent on them, force feeding, becoming immobile and this unable to get away during SA, etc. i would regularly report people and block people sending me art requests about these topics. The non consentual stuff was enough of a problem that i ended up leaving the forum despite making a decent chunk ofoney from just drawing like, fat pokemon and yugioh characters which is frankly an awesome and fun way to make money. But putting up with the other shit was not worth it.
Dude, that is some unbelievable integrity you have to report and turn down those requests even after being offered money. Massive W
It happens to me. I personally like to draw fat characters, just because I like them and find drawing curves fun, but then I get weird requests from people with feederism fetish wanting me to draw immobile obese characters being forcefully fed and it freaks me out !
Also let's notice how the feeders are always skinny/normal weight, they UNDERSTAND the consequences of obesity and don't want that for themself but will gladly put their partners into an addictive hell. They disgust me.
You got yarn in the background and are invested in Amberlynn… Can we be friends omg?
I was thinking the same thing lol So much yarn!
My home feed is full of crochet and gorl world vids, no wonder I found this channel ... the crossover is unmatchable xD
Same here!!!
Clicked for drama stayed for the yarnpooooorn
Awww. You guys are the cutest 😍
I wish I was good at crocheting or ANYTHING related to creating beautiful things with yarn. 🫶
As with something like “consensual murder”, you have to wonder: is the very consent proof of an inability to freely consent? I’m reminded of the case of Sharon Lopatka, a woman who “consented” to her own torture-murder. She was an extreme masochist with an extreme fantasy life who met a sadist online. They meticulously planned her death at his hand. Amazingly, they went through with it. In a note left behind for her husband, she was very clear that she wanted this, and she didn’t want her killer prosecuted, should he ever be found out. He was found out and convicted. There was a lot of debate about his culpability, a debate that persists to this day.
To my mind, it isn’t possible to consent to death. Anyone who agrees to it, with the exception of things like assisted suicide for terminally ill people, is clearly suffering from mental illness, and these concerns preclude them from consenting.
Also... it might be really hard for us to understand why Amber would do this to herself and the things she could do that might be dangerous for her.
This is freedom.
Until they make overeating illegal, or until amber is declared mentally incapable of making her own decisions, we have to sit back and let her have that freedom. Maybe the desire for "Tommy's" love outweighs her fear of immobility or death.
People have the freedom to do a lot of dangerous things that might hurt them. The only thing we can do is watch it until the end to see what happens.
Yup there’s no such thing as food jail although they really need inpatient!
Um tommys ex looked like amber. Even more freaky 9:41
That’s what I’m saying it’s so weird
People treating death feederism like a kink really frustrate me. They might say “well what’s the difference between this and impact play, when things can go wrong in impact play too”. The difference is that you are, in practice, not just in role play or fantasy, literally intentionally seeking to disable or kill this person. That is not a kink. Ted bundy wasn’t just a freaky little kinkster. Killing somebody, or enabling their suicide, in PRACTICE (not fantasy or roleplay where everyone is actually safe and the parameters have been negotiated) is just the same as it would be without the sexual element. The sexual element is irrelevant at that point.
No, this is not the same as other kinks and fetishes, and yes it is treated differently in the kink community. Again, not talking about fantasy or roleplay or some iteration of feederism that is not connected to causing unnecessary weight gain, causing medical issues or seeking death. Specifically talking about immobility and death feederism. This is not a kink. No it is not the same as impact play.
Look at how the community feels about breath play. This is a similar issue, with the added factor that the feeder is literally seeking to disable or kill the victim.
I don’t like seeing the kink community dragged into it and thrown under the bus. I actually don’t care if Tommy like to be underneath someone who is already fat. I don’t care that they find fat women attractive. Feederism in certain iterations doesn’t bother me either. I get it. You feel like a provider. None of that is the issue. The issue is the part of it that is nothing to do with kink and everything to do with abuse. If I safe word during impact play, it stops. If you safe word death feederism, you’re still disabled and still barreling towards death.
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you hit the nail on the head.
thank you for being the only person i've seen in this comment section that recognizes feedism is not inherently abusive and death feedism is a very small very extreme subset of it
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Oh stop it. Feederism IS a Kink and we need to acknowledge it as such. You saying it's not has the same energy as men going "Not all men!" or "No that person that did something very bad is NOT a Man, because I am a man and I wouldn't do something like this!" You'll probably say I'm kinkshaming and you are absolutely right. Kinks need to be shamed sometimes. Feederism, DDLG, CNC, Slave Kinks, Raceplay - I could go on. All of these things are sick, with Feederism (or Anorexia kinks) being the worst since it leads to a persons death.
How am I a soft-masc lesbian with a stable job and not know that I fit a desired niche until just now…?
Had to look it up; feederism is a paraphilia. Normally I hear the word in context with serial killers, pedophiles and raipists - so I'm not surprised they give me the same uncomfortable feeling.
I really liked this video, the way you contemplate the moral of the issues in the videos, how and even if anything should be done to help.
I do think it's worth noting that a paraphilia is just sexual arousal for anything deemed not "normally" arousing - so it also depends on cultural standards. For example, armpit fetishes, foot fetishes, latex, a weird obsession with a certain type of clothing, etc. are all paraphilias. It doesn't need to be abusive or have anything sinister about it
@maeby3258 I think you are right. Maybe I was thinking of paraphilic disorder?
It also depends on what is considered "normal".
I for one think latex, foot/armpit fetisches and finding certain garments sexy has to be pretty normal. One of the most common titels on certain web sites are "step sister/mom".
When I think "unusual sexual behavior" I think of the woman who had sex with the Eiffel Tower.
@@maeby3258 thank you. people acting like this whole fetish is people wanting to murder their partners when 99% of the time it's just celebrating larger bodies.
Imagine being so brainwashed by corn culture that you think inc*st is "normal". Buddy you are down bad
@@novanettle7497 yes its very subjective! But what you said does make sense. I personally think the line is crossed with these sort of things - when somebody can actually die or become incapable of autonomy
Feeders to me feel like legal murderers/serial killers
exactly what i was thinking here
Yes they feed on woman to death. Then they go one to another and so on. They love to have total power over someone.
This was a really good video! You have such a well thought out grasp on this topic. I appreciate your ideas
As a woman of culture, I only refer to her as Thomas Salamus
As a fellow British person, I am very proud of you for putting out this video!!! I was watching Tiny Blue Anthropologist's live where she featured your video, so after her video finished i immediately came over to your channel. Im beyond impressed this is articulate, empathetic, non judgemental and educational. Im going to read the attached article on feederism, subscribed before the video ended ❤
ALR is no victim here. Her last girlfriend tried to help her exercise, help her eat better and offered to help pay for weight loss surgery and ALR did nothing but lie and manipulate. This relationship is her dream. She doesn’t want to work, go out, travel, or do much of anything but sit at home scrolling tik tok and eat.
It is sad, how deep into mental illness someone has to be to reject that help so consistently, and it's sad that it's driven her to stay in this relationship that's slowly driving her into her grave. It was her choice, but I have sympathy for her to some degree because there is clearly something wrong with her mentally and now she's in a situation where there's no hope in sight.
I think a big thing to remember on the EC vs Amberlynn forced treatment is that anorexia literally shrinks and damages your brain as your body tries to stay alive.
”Their (anorexics) overall brain volume drops, and parts of the brain thin. Those reductions are very problematic, researchers say, as they suggest people with anorexia are destroying their brain cells or breaking connections between brain areas”
Often very ill anorexics have issues with thinking due to the brain damage. That's why a forced treatment is more likely to be needed as the person with an ED might genuinely be unable to make desicions.
People forget the other side of it; those who get pleasure from gaining THEMSELVES. It is more common than feeders as someone who is into it fictionally and interacts with the online furry side of it. Amber knows what she is getting into because she is INTO it and HAS BEEN for YEARS! We have been watching her make bean flicking content for herself for over a decade and has put us on a ride.
Amber is a lost cause.
She is enjoying herself. I’m worried about the animals.
Especially after having hauled them all that way with her
Now Rarity is gone 😢
and the fact that Emily (Tommy) is a psych nurse too is just a lot. Oh Lordy it’s jordy did a live stream the other night about Emily
A good portion of psych. health care are in need of it.
21:56 also. Eugenia is definitely a victim of the weird people on the opposite side of this spectrum who encourage and get gratification from watching people lose weight and be morbidly emaciated. There’s been multiple times on livestreams where she was asked to move her heavy makeup box from one part of her room to the other on camera and then she was paid by the commenter. She has also debatedly flashed the camera multiple times on livestream (but I do believe this could just be because none of her clothes fit.) However the box moving is documented many times. There’s compilations of it on yt. After it was called out by many people it eventually stopped. I hate to think about her offlive interactions she may have with creeps like this, money involved or not. Because there are people out there who do this same thing except it’s a lack of food instead of an excess. It may not be a direct partner, but she still may have internet friendships or relationships that are the exact same thing.
Also her mom pretty much encourages her behavior. Sits there and says she's fine and pretty and locks her in the house infa talizing a 30 year old woman
I'm a recovering alcoholic and addict. This would be the same as if I was dating someone who got off on keeping me intoxicated.
Horrible, selfish, evil.
Because of her extremely tumultuous childhood and family, I think she stopped maturing around the age of 12 or 13. That's why she's so hedonistic, has no concept of responsibilities or consequence, doesn't save money, she doesn't think about the future or her actions etc etc
They're playing "God" with someone else's life. They have power over that person. They have power over every single thing in that feedee's life, including people coming to see them or not, what food they can have, whether the feedee gets washed or even taken to the bathroom. If you're immobile, you're relying on others to change your diaper or at the very least to get you to the bathroom. Imagine being told that "nope, not right now because you've been bad so you need to stew in your diaper until I say you don't". How demeaning that is! I don't think she knows exactly what she's gotten herself into yet because she can still sort of move. Sort of.
I don't think people necessarily DESERVE bad things to happen to them... I just think that, with some people, it's just not surprising..
Respectfully i disagree on your take about people who commit horrible crimes could change in prison because they could have a lot of time to reflect on their behaviour... Simply because a lot of them don't feel any empathy then remorse for what they done to their victims ...
I wouldn't label Amber's personnality as "crappy" as well. She is not the type to say some rude things then regret it but can't help continuing being a jerk ... no it is way darker she falsely accused Casey of SA for example which is a crime. She is an abuser not a person who is somewhat difficult
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Plus prison is not rehabilitative at all, there's a reason the recidivism rate is so high
@@maddyc2412 by design, very profitable the incarceration business
11:28 I don't see how feedies can get past the smell, the discoloration & everything else that's comes along with a body that size.
I am gonna assume they like that stuff too.
Just to help with feelings- I lost my husband in 2022 (March), and I can’t imagine being married again, I am in my 30’s, like ALR. Just posting my personal story experience. Everyone is different, but I was still crying 24/7 2 months after he passed. (He was lost on not good terms. I found out he was sexting while paying women, who were in 3rd world countries, for naked pics and streams. I feel bad for the women tbh.)
He literally loved women with some chunk on them. I was literally 30 pounds heavier than I am now. I weighed 170/180 and started weighing 110 pounds. Literally, I ask myself how I weighed so little. I’m 140 now. I’m not saying I want to weigh 110 lbs, but that’s what I weighed. He picked me up (again, literally) and it scared me. I was honestly terrified, and I know he wouldn’t beat me or anything…he wanted me heavier and I couldn’t understand why. The women were bigger than me, except the lady in Thailand who weighed probably 110… can’t say I understand it.
@@Fe26man I'm so sorry for your loss. I can't imagine how hard it must be to deal with not only losing a loved one, but also having to learn terrible things about them :/
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I didn’t know about feeders until a few months ago. These guys are absolutely murderers
Its a hard call, shes an abusive, narrassistic liar. Do I want anyone to experience any of what shes done? No! Does she deserve it, yeah I think she does but at the sametime I dont want anything bad to happen. After seeing Jordys latest reveal I am very worried for her safety. I have a sneaky suspicion shes earning money on feeder sites, its a hunch, I cant prove it.
People who get defensive of kinks that are actually seriously sick and gross are so creepy to me. I don't believe these people are getting sexual gratification I think they're getting monetary or situational gratification. And the ones specifically looking for someone overweight and everything here is eerie af. Also that guy with the overweight wife wheeling her in, when he's made her breakfast he talks and behaves with her like she's a massive toddler and she almost looks like one trying to get out of bed, it's gross. Tnere is something extremely pedophilic about all of them.
I worked as a DV advocate and I had never even considered this before, but the way you pointed out the power imbalance definitely convinced me that this is a form of DV.
While I will agree that it's MORE than just "Calories In; Calories Out," but, at ALR's size, any little thing ALR stuck to would show MASSIVE loss. I know this, personally. At my highest, I was 520. I started my weight loss about four & a half 4½ years ago, not really knowing what I'm doing, and I'm now down 170#. It's NOT as hard as people like ALR or Chantal like to say it is. You just need to stick to a diet AND exercise plan (I did exercise first, THEN added diet) and keep adding to the routine as things get easier to do to avoid constant plateaus. ALR doesn't even try.
When my mom was obese (almost 350lbs) she started her journey simply by switching soda with water. She still had McDonald's every other day and never excersized. She dropped 50lbs in a few months, got incredibly motivated, and is now running 10 k 3 times a week and doing her first marathon this December. I am so proud of her.
Exactly this! Technically it is calories in less calories out (due to the law of the conservation of energy), but many factors can influence someone's ability to control their calories in (eg medicines that impact their appetite, food addictions, stomach size that impacts when they feel hungry, absorption of food, etc), and their calories out (their metabolism / calories burnt while at rest, their ability to exercise, their ability to build muscle, etc). At Amber's weight, the calories required to maintain that will be so high that, as you said, even if she's drawn the short straw on all these factors, it's definitely possible for her to lose substantial weight
I’m from Wisconsin, I’d love to have a word with Ms Pookie Tommy, but I don’t touch the poop 🤡 we don’t claim her
this was so well done, I'm glad you popped into my feed. I think a lot of commentary videos are boring, but this was super interesting.
Into your feed? 😂 Sorry for that.... but it is funny like the algorhythm is a Feeder as well...hmmm... maybe it really is....
Never pitied her. I love animals. They have shown me more love than a lot of people that have come/gone in my life, but my pets have never wavered. I also work in the animal field and with shelters. The way Amber uses her animals, abuses them by not doing the bare minimum to and seeing her go out when Twinkie has felt sick, in pain is disgusting. My pets are my children and I accept the responsibility to care for them. I have no time or patience for just this, but seeing how amber treated Becky sick as well I don’t care what amber has willingly decided to do with her life and be with her f33d3r
Begging y'all to stop calling her that stupid nickname Amber came up with. Her name is Emily and she's a dangerous nut job. That being said, GREAT video, very informative!!
25:45 Why aren't they held accountable for these people's deaths? There was a german psychopath who killed and ate his partner's human flesh, however, he had the victim's permission for such acts, and he was still arrested.
Im just asking myself how they have money for these unholy amounts of food , while they constantly care for their severely overweight partner without leaving the house 🤷🏼♂️
It is mind boggling. The way we budget food around this house compared to the gross excess of the people discussed in this video is crazy. I guess if you never need money to go out and live your life it's probably fine in the sense that eating IS your life. I don't know, I'll never really understand it.
@ I mean they have to use the amount of food I need for a week in under 24 hours, but like, a lot more
Maybe it's making a content for feeder websites or something like that
Disability, government assistance, social security, etc. So tax payer $$
I have just discovered your channel. I am, ironically, also a psych nurse. The way you handle these extremely sensitive topics so eloquently was refreshing to watch. Amid a sea of RUclips commentary and “tea” channels, yours really stands out. Subscribed!
Just found your channel through this video and this was very well put together. She’s way more vulnerable than she will ever realize and tbh I think maybe she is realizing this isn’t the best situation and maybe that’s why her mental health isn’t so great - she’s finally met her match relationship wise. This is her Salah, kinda in a weird way because Chantal ain’t fooling anyone with her fake marriage. Sadly she won’t do a damn thing about it most likely. She never has. It really feels like we are in a series finale.
Just the idea of this is so unbelievably sickening. I’m a bigger girl, I have a thin boyfriend. He likes how soft I am, how cuddly I am. He even likes my tummy. But it’s never EVER been ANYTHING like this. My bf encourages me to be healthy, to exercise and live a full life. But he also enjoys the way my body is in its current state. He’s openly stated that he likes that I have “meat on my bones.” It helps me love my body, and take photos of myself even in “unflattering” angles because I know he loves me and is attracted to me regardless. This shit feels downright disgusting, abusive, and predatory. Frankly, it makes my skin crawl.
Oh you're so right!! For the longest time I've felt unloveable for my size, and it took a huge toll on my self esteem. I've been in a happy loving relationship for around a year now, and it's so comforting to feel loved for who you are, and not *what* you are. I'm working on myself, but the fact someone is there for you and loves you for *you* is just incredible. I want to get stronger and lose weight, but nowadays I see it as just 'upgrading' myself to develop things I don't have yet. Not as smthn to 'appease' someone.
The idea of being objectified in a relationship like this is so scary. What kind of love really is there? (Especially with how the feeders seem to find their victims as....well replaceable) It's so scary, and the progression of it all seems to be a 'process' to strip the person of every bit of their own agency. Their own opinion? Desires? Literal mobility? You can't even do things you want in your free time, or easily spend time with friends or relatives. What even remains? That's no love :(
What a fantastic video! This is the first video I've seen from you but definitely won't be the last. Keep up the good work ❤
I hope for her sake she gets out of this relationship, but I know from her past behavior that she's just as likely to bury her head in the sand and ignore the red flags
The best rebuttal against making feederism a crime is if we apply this logic to it's full end, does that mean a spouse that picks up cigarettes for their spouse should be charged with murder?
Or what about complex situation where a person has a roommate who appears suicidal but doesn't alert anyone, should they be charged with murder? Is it their job to alert the authorities? Or impose themselves on someone else's life?
At the end of the day people have their own choices and we have to honor that rather we like it or not, we can't use our legal system to make other people take responsibility for other people's choices.
Does that mean sick individuals get to derive joy off the destruction of other people? Yes, is that unnerving, yes, but ultimately the choice still lies with the person themselves opting to engage in their own destructive behaviors.
Amberlynn Reid is a wealthy woman who has had every opportunity to seek professional help and has refused to get the help she needs, despite the wealth she has at her disposal. At some point she has to be given the dignity in people honoring her decisions for her own life.
This is who she is, and what she wants, if she didn't she has the means to seek help and change. Is Tommy disgusting, yes, is she responsible for Amberlynn Reid or should have to go to jail for her inevitable demise, no. It would be a gross misuse of taxpayer money and a waste of the courts time.
But there’s a difference between picking up cigarettes and not intervening when someone’s suicidal and encouraging someone to smoke or to kill themselves
@ravenID429 if you're buying cigarettes for someone you're effectively enabling their suicide and encouraging the behavior. Cigarettes are one of the most deadly carcinogens.
@@ravenID429 Cigarettes are one of the most lethal carcinogens, the comparison is absolutely comparable.
A feeder going to the extent of withering their victim's autonomy is actually more terrifying than it sounds
Listen, the guy saying "It's like any other self destructive thing, cigarettes, drugs..." Is so absurd to me because, what do you mean that exonerates you??? If someone's partner is encouraging them to do drugs they're seen as a bad partner and enabler. Any psychologist would insist on cutting them off from your life. Wtf.