I think the general breakdown of the difference between Celibi and Mewtwo as archetypes is Cel for Ladder, Mewtwo for tournaments - similar to Eggecutor previously. On ladder, you can afford to take bigger risks because even if you consistently low roll, you can threaten a future high roll. Kangs might have a 75% chance to not meaningfuly change the board state, but a 25% chance of checkmate is a worthwhile gambit that you can take with low stakes. Celebi carries that same threat with Erika support, better retreat cost and a much higher ceiling even without Serperior and Mew can’t copy Serperior’s set up. But in a tournament setting where there are higher consequences to a loss, those gambits aren’t worth the opportunity cost of failure. Celebi can sweep, but Mewtwo is an archetype that’s already proven successful, consistent, and has upgrades into a wider range of match ups that weren’t buffed as considerably. And I think Blaine+Arcanine has a strong place in the discussion with Blue and the new Rapidash but I’d have to crunch some numbers on that to test viability against Mewtwo to be sure.
Yeah definitely feels like this deck is pretty ridiculous now. I didn't have baby mewtwo for the old version of the deck and now just gotta try and pull a mew ex lol. Great vid as always! Also at 25:36 they couldn't giovanni cause they already used sabrina to force you to switch. Don't worry, I think the same thing all the time 😅
I have had an exponentially harder time fighting against Serperior decks than the new Mew/Mewtwo variants. It is just so hard to make anything happen when your opponent has always on double energy. The moment Serperior comes online you are already at a 4+ energy deficit.
@@varg_rubensson9556 No, not at all. By the time you have 3 on Alakazam they have 6, or 8 if they won the coin toss and went second. There is no scenario where you lasted that long unless they misplayed.
Nice video my thing is everyone is running mew/Mewtwo decks with different trainers. I find it hard to find a good trainer balance or less you run 1 mew. Now I'm think how with 2 mew with ou taking key trainer cards from the deck to make it work. Im thinking not to run some stuff or go 1 on some trainer cards. I'll see which one comes out of this mess😮.
While I find the Celebi deck to be more consistent compared to the Mewtwo deck, I currently have a 57% WR in 200 games for my Mewtwo EX deck and after swapping out base Mewtwo for Mew EX the deck has definitely felt better. The extra tank pivot from Mew EX which does massive damage too compared to base Mewtwo, a card that dies more often than not by just sitting out in front feels much better. All that said, I can't quite pinpoint why Celebi EX feels more consistent when both decks require a stage 2 ramp card and a main sweeper and the Celebi deck doesn't even run a secondary win-con like Mew in the Mewtwo deck (I use a singular Dhelmise).
My changes are running a Blue over a MewEX and a Leaf over one of the Xspeeds. The Blue is for the Mirror and Leaf is because I like the art and both Gard and Mew2 have a 2 retreat cost. It's probably not optimal, but the art is cool.
Idk what Celebi you’re playing against but the mewtwo meta gets wasted by mine lol. 😂Celebi is a bench pokemon for me though that could be why mewtwo hasn’t beat mine yet. 🎉
Baby mewtwo might still be good to run because metwo and mew lose to pidgeot EX on curve and the revenge kill is hard to pull off with a mew or mewtwo if that pidgeot took no damage/healed up
Now Mewtwo can run Mew too
Two Mew, and two Mewtwo too, actually 😂
I think the general breakdown of the difference between Celibi and Mewtwo as archetypes is Cel for Ladder, Mewtwo for tournaments - similar to Eggecutor previously.
On ladder, you can afford to take bigger risks because even if you consistently low roll, you can threaten a future high roll. Kangs might have a 75% chance to not meaningfuly change the board state, but a 25% chance of checkmate is a worthwhile gambit that you can take with low stakes.
Celebi carries that same threat with Erika support, better retreat cost and a much higher ceiling even without Serperior and Mew can’t copy Serperior’s set up.
But in a tournament setting where there are higher consequences to a loss, those gambits aren’t worth the opportunity cost of failure.
Celebi can sweep, but Mewtwo is an archetype that’s already proven successful, consistent, and has upgrades into a wider range of match ups that weren’t buffed as considerably.
And I think Blaine+Arcanine has a strong place in the discussion with Blue and the new Rapidash but I’d have to crunch some numbers on that to test viability against Mewtwo to be sure.
Very good deck highlight!
Yeah definitely feels like this deck is pretty ridiculous now. I didn't have baby mewtwo for the old version of the deck and now just gotta try and pull a mew ex lol.
Great vid as always!
Also at 25:36 they couldn't giovanni cause they already used sabrina to force you to switch. Don't worry, I think the same thing all the time 😅
I have had an exponentially harder time fighting against Serperior decks than the new Mew/Mewtwo variants. It is just so hard to make anything happen when your opponent has always on double energy. The moment Serperior comes online you are already at a 4+ energy deficit.
Sabrina.
@@rezzytheskyguy What about it?
@@bonelessthincrust its how you beat serperior.
Alakazam / jinx and good bye
@@varg_rubensson9556 No, not at all. By the time you have 3 on Alakazam they have 6, or 8 if they won the coin toss and went second. There is no scenario where you lasted that long unless they misplayed.
1 Blue is helpful to have in mirror and against those with Mew ex to counter.
Good suggestion. It helps against Celebi EX also to make them need 1 more coin flip .
yeah, hard to fit but could end up being long term correct
They should definitely let you do a Yu-Gi-Oh fusion evolution of Mew and Mewtwo into Mewthree
You should put the lists in the description for these videos
I like the 10 psychics now that we have slab but the 10th I think it will have to be jynx instead of the 2nd mew for the celebi match up
It's so fun playing against mewtwo that i miss pikachu decks
Nice video my thing is everyone is running mew/Mewtwo decks with different trainers. I find it hard to find a good trainer balance or less you run 1 mew. Now I'm think how with 2 mew with ou taking key trainer cards from the deck to make it work. Im thinking not to run some stuff or go 1 on some trainer cards. I'll see which one comes out of this mess😮.
While I find the Celebi deck to be more consistent compared to the Mewtwo deck, I currently have a 57% WR in 200 games for my Mewtwo EX deck and after swapping out base Mewtwo for Mew EX the deck has definitely felt better. The extra tank pivot from Mew EX which does massive damage too compared to base Mewtwo, a card that dies more often than not by just sitting out in front feels much better.
All that said, I can't quite pinpoint why Celebi EX feels more consistent when both decks require a stage 2 ramp card and a main sweeper and the Celebi deck doesn't even run a secondary win-con like Mew in the Mewtwo deck (I use a singular Dhelmise).
How do you know your wr?
i would kill for mythical slab in celebi ex
@@bikuuuta by making a spreadsheet on Excel 😂
I went with a single silglyph over the slab, only a couple games but it felt alright.
makes sense. same role as card draw!
My changes are running a Blue over a MewEX and a Leaf over one of the Xspeeds. The Blue is for the Mirror and Leaf is because I like the art and both Gard and Mew2 have a 2 retreat cost.
It's probably not optimal, but the art is cool.
@@rrteppo i traded one x speed for a leaf as well
blue makes a lot of sense
Idk what Celebi you’re playing against but the mewtwo meta gets wasted by mine lol. 😂Celebi is a bench pokemon for me though that could be why mewtwo hasn’t beat mine yet. 🎉
Play a tournament and you will understand. Online you will only play morons
Make it triple trouble
U need blue to counter the mirror and mew
I think Celebi is the new best deck
i am unfortunately pretty sure mewtwo ex beats it heads up
Mewtwo def better lol but celebi is good!
Anything but Celebi
Baby mewtwo might still be good to run because metwo and mew lose to pidgeot EX on curve and the revenge kill is hard to pull off with a mew or mewtwo if that pidgeot took no damage/healed up
But have I been phenomenal?
of course
Whats the decklist ?
its in the first....30-50 seconds?