Harpsichord vs Piano: How Different Are They Really?

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  • Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024

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  • @harpsichord
    @harpsichord  4 года назад +32

    Thanks so much for watching! What else do you want to know about the harpsichord? Leave me a comment to let me know!
    Oh, and at 0:24 I totally meant to say "the harpsichord is older than the piano" instead of the other way around. Whoops!

    • @erlingwalter5888
      @erlingwalter5888 3 года назад +1

      hello! thanks for the video, i would love to have a harpsichord, but i only hear that cost 25k of dollars, i´m from mexico city, any idea where can i find someting available in terms of money; where are you yamaha when we need you!! jajajaja

    • @RockStarOscarStern634
      @RockStarOscarStern634 3 года назад +1

      Yeah I noticed that too. BTW There are touch sensative Harpsichords & Pedal Harpsichords which allow you to play Organ pieces on a Piano.

    • @johnrothfield6126
      @johnrothfield6126 2 года назад

      More demonstrations of good touch on harpsichord as opposed to bad touch

    • @justinkashtock333
      @justinkashtock333 Год назад

      When you were demonstrating the "on the string" play style, I noticed that when the plectrum came back to it's resting position, it created a harmonic. Are the plectrums placed at a harmonic position on every string, or just some of them? And if it's on every string, is this intentional so as to affect the overall sound of the harpsichord by increasing the amount of harmonic resonance, or is there potentially some other reason behind it such as increasing the amount of time the string will continue to vibrate regardless of the harmonic tones?
      Thank you for the video, as it answered the primary question I had sought when I began my search today!

    • @Lucius_Chiaraviglio
      @Lucius_Chiaraviglio 7 месяцев назад

      When you said "the piano is older than the harpsichord", I thought you were going to mention the unsuccessful Medieval attempt to invent a keyboard hammered dulcimer preceding the actual piano by a few centuries and set in at least the dawn time of the harpsichord and clavichord.

  • @erikkrabbenbos4347
    @erikkrabbenbos4347 2 года назад +17

    "The piano is older than... Wait... Where's my coffee..." 😅

  • @Talltrees84
    @Talltrees84 2 года назад +7

    Do one comparing the HC, the piano and the organ. All keyboard instruments but different. One percussion (piano), another plucked (HC) and another wind based (organ).

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 2 года назад +9

    There's actually a Velocity sensitive Harpsichord which has a slightly modified action and quite recently Stuart and Sons made a 108 Key Piano with a Full 9 Octave range

    • @justinnaramor6050
      @justinnaramor6050 3 месяца назад

      How would a harpsichord be velocity sensitive? I do not play plucked string instruments, but it is my understanding that dynamics on plucked strings are controlled more so by how far the string is displaced from its rest position than how fast it is plucked. It is precisely for this reason that harpsichords have very little dynamic range.
      For true dynamics on harpsichord, you'd have to have a way to control how far the string is displaced from its rest position, but how? How would you control that just by pushing down the keys faster or slower? If it was done via a pedal mechanism or something, where you control the proximity between the jack and strings for instance, I could maybe see that working, but controlling that via the keyboard alone? Hmm...

    • @RockStarOscarStern634
      @RockStarOscarStern634 3 месяца назад

      @@justinnaramor6050 A Pedal Mechanism which is like the Volume Pedal on a Hammond

    • @justinnaramor6050
      @justinnaramor6050 2 месяца назад

      @@RockStarOscarStern634 Right, that was precisely what I was thinking when I mentioned a pedal mechanism. But that's a pedal... that's not a matter of controlling dynamics directly from the keyboard. When you said "velocity sensitive" harpsichord I figured you meant something that directly uses the keyboard to control dynamics.

  • @hummit
    @hummit Год назад +3

    Thanks for a great video! I didn't know that the harpsicord plucks strings until today!

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 2 года назад +1

    You know the Baldwin Company made an Electric Harpsichord, it's a Single Manual Single 8 ft Rank Harpsichord with Pickups above the strings. The model is CW80 and the amplifier it plugs into has a Double Volume Pedal system so you can actually controll the Dynamics like you would on an Organ.

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 2 года назад +1

    I did find Realized Continuo parts of Corelli's 12 Violin Sonatas done by another composer named Antonio Tonelli.

  • @maryerb6062
    @maryerb6062 3 года назад +1

    This is very interesting and I had no idea! By all means share your learning!

  • @TheBinaryWolf
    @TheBinaryWolf Год назад

    Thanks for the excellent explanation. When I write for harpsichord, I have an innate desire to add accents and staccato marks because my primary instrument is flamenco and classical guitar; so I refrain...unless I feature the instrument, and the orchestra enters a soft accompaniment section or tacets. I also exhibit my bias by writing in the lower mid-range as it renders a richer, guitar like tone.

  • @brucetepke8150
    @brucetepke8150 Год назад +2

    What instrument would you suggest for someone who wants to play harpsichord but doesn't (yet) have access to one? Is starting on a piano counterproductive? Would a synthesizer keyboard be a better choice?

  • @epicsmiley3598
    @epicsmiley3598 3 года назад +3

    1000th subs good job

  • @darrenserra316
    @darrenserra316 3 года назад +3

    did i hear correctly? at :24, you said, "the piano is older than the harpsicord"....

    • @harpsichord
      @harpsichord  3 года назад +5

      That is indeed what I said, but it is (of course) an error that I somehow didn't catch when I was editing the video! :) I tried to have a card come up on the screen at that time correcting the error, and I also mentioned it in my pinned comment, but it's still forever in the video, haha!

  • @memyopinionsche6610
    @memyopinionsche6610 2 года назад +1

    With all the movies based on the history on classic composers like Mozart.
    I've always noticed that the piano they were playing on sounding more different than a regular piano.
    I would say sounding more higher pitched?
    If that's the term I have to use.
    But sounding way more different.
    And also notice the harpsichord piano the little smaller.
    than a regular piano.
    So I guess the strings are plucked then hit. I guess that's why they sound different.
    I never knew.

  • @MrMalvolio29
    @MrMalvolio29 7 месяцев назад

    The harpsichord is, simply, a “”LESS EXPRESSIVE”” instrument without the obviously superior affective range of the piano, *even* of that of the early pianoforte, or fortepiano (depending on one’s preference). One can hit a note harder or softer on a piano, and expect a correspondingly harder and longer-lasting or softer and briefer tone. On a harpsichord, it generally does not matter how hard or soft one’s depressing of the key is; since a string is being plucked, it makes the same tone regardless of the force applied to depressing of the key. This is actually *why* the first pianos (which had only 58-60 keys, like the harpsichord, encompassing 5 octaves of 12 notes each)--were called either “pianofortes” (meaning “softs and forceful note possibilities”) OR fortepianos (meaning “forceful note and soft-note possibilities”---from Italian *piano”= soft; and “forte” meaning “strong”); this name subtly suggested that the piano might indeed be an “evolutionary improvement” on the harpsichord; indeed, a pianoforte sounds louder and can play almost *any* harpsichord composition, whereas the obverse is certainly not true.
    Nevertheless, this “evolutionary” narrative * IS* false: the harpsichord and pianoforte shared merely a “housing;” their “actions”--mechanisms for producing sound--were unrelated, and each instrument had its place for a time. In fact the two instruments happily coexisted thru the Classical Era and up until the early Romantic Period.

  • @cutchmaster
    @cutchmaster 7 месяцев назад

    Excellent video. Great info and demonstrations. Thank you.

  • @Browncoat03-K64
    @Browncoat03-K64 2 года назад

    Thank you for this informational video! It's great for homeschool.

  • @gooseface2690
    @gooseface2690 Год назад +1

    LOL for that first line! 😅😋

  • @danielj9042
    @danielj9042 3 года назад +3

    When you introduced the sound of the harpsichord did you improvise or was that a short snippet of a piece? If it was a piece, could you tell me what that was?

    • @manfredholt7329
      @manfredholt7329 3 года назад

      Suite in E minor, HWV 438, III. Jigg (by Handel):
      ruclips.net/video/IjCMCLlBK3w/видео.html

    • @danielj9042
      @danielj9042 3 года назад

      @@manfredholt7329 Oh, sorry. I meant when she starts playing at 2:14. Thanks for responding 😀

    • @manfredholt7329
      @manfredholt7329 3 года назад

      @@danielj9042 Haha, sorry, I really don't know what she played then. Sounds like early Baroque.

    • @danielj9042
      @danielj9042 3 года назад

      @@manfredholt7329 lol well, maybe she will tell us at some point 🥰

    • @erikkrabbenbos4347
      @erikkrabbenbos4347 2 года назад

      Sounds like a Renaissance piece, but which of the countless pieces out there it could be...? 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @arsmelancholiae
    @arsmelancholiae 3 года назад

    I like the sound of your harpsichord. What is the difference between the sound of a big harpsichord, a virginal and a spinet? Which one would you recommend for people who can't buy a big harpsichord?

  • @JeanDistefano-i2e
    @JeanDistefano-i2e 21 день назад

    Thank you!

  • @marioalgandona9132
    @marioalgandona9132 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video.

  • @manfredholt7329
    @manfredholt7329 3 года назад +4

    Very informative video! I am a pianist considering getting a harpsichord as I play almost only Baroque music. How is the touch of a harpsichord vs a piano? Is it easier to play than a piano since it can't produce dynamics? Also, what was the harpsichord piece in the introduction?

    • @titorosado6198
      @titorosado6198 3 года назад +4

      Hi, harpsichord student here.
      About your first question: there are differences in touch between both instruments. The principal difference resides in the strength necessary to play. The harpsichord has a lighter and shallower action than the piano, meaning that only the strength of the fingers is used to play the keys (keep in mind that some harpsichords have a much heavier action than others, so you might need the strength of your hands in some situations). If you play the harpsichord with the strength you regularly use on a piano, not only the notes will sound harsh, but you will also hear an annoying percussive sound that is a result from the jacks hitting the upper rail. Also, having your hands and arms relaxed makes playing fast easier.
      About your second question: I believe it is certainly easier to produce a "good" sound on the harpsichord since you don't have to worry about the dynamics. On the other hand, playing expressively is harder, as you will have to know how to manage without dynamics. This is, in my opinion, the biggest difficulty in harpsichord playing and also the reason why many pianists find the harpsichord a boring instrument to play (they think the harpsichord is an expressionless and easier to play instrument, without realizing that the difficulty of the harpsichord resides in using subtle playing nuances to produce expression). My advice here is to find a teacher AND listen to professional harpsichordists (my favorite ones are Ketil Haugsand, Scott Ross and Jean Rondeau).
      Unfortunately, I don't know the answer to your third question.
      You probably already know this, but if you want to get a harpsichord you should learn how to tune (it's much easier than to tune a piano, don't worry)
      Best of luck with your harpsichord journey, I hope this was helpful :)

    • @manfredholt7329
      @manfredholt7329 3 года назад

      @@titorosado6198 Thanks for your reply! Interesting to know about the nuances for a harpsichord; I can recall some techniques from recordings. Playing expressively is difficult on the harpsichord. And yes, I was aware that all harpsichordists have to tune their harpsichords constantly as the harpsichord has a wooden frame, rather than a metal frame that pianos have. Unfortunately, there are no harpsichord teachers in my area, but I'll keep an eye out in the future. Thanks for the recommendations. My favorite harpsichordists are Kenneth Gilbert and Scott Ross.
      Also, I found the piece in the introduction,
      Suite in E minor, HWV 438, III. Jigg (by Handel):
      ruclips.net/video/IjCMCLlBK3w/видео.html
      Thanks for your kind and helpful words.

    • @titorosado6198
      @titorosado6198 3 года назад

      @@manfredholt7329 You're welcome, glad I could help!
      I'm sorry to hear that there are no teachers in your area. The name Kenneth Gilbert rings a bell but I think I never heard a recording by him. I'll check him out.
      And thanks for indicating the piece in the introduction!

    • @manfredholt7329
      @manfredholt7329 3 года назад +1

      @@titorosado6198 No problem. Have fun listening to Kenneth Gilbert!

    • @-dimitris
      @-dimitris 2 года назад

      Check out this channel : John Moraitis
      He was a pianist who switched to harpsichord. He explains many advanced things, but you'll get an idea of the baroque harpsichord performance.

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 2 года назад +1

    There are Pedal Harpsichords and Pedal Pianos too which can play Piano Music, Harpsichord Music, Organ Music, you name it.

  • @willemvandernest3249
    @willemvandernest3249 2 месяца назад

    He Harpsichord sounds so pure in contrast with the piano

  • @NurseDavis
    @NurseDavis Год назад

    Do you have any opinions on playing bach on harpsichord vs piano? Or clavichord or organ?

  • @jftsang
    @jftsang 3 года назад

    Are there any digital keyboards that you would recommend? It's a pity that the C30 isn't in stock anymore. Or is practising on a digital keyboard just a bad idea? I want to learn harpsichord but I don't want to pick up bad technique, especially as I'm coming from piano.

    • @titorosado6198
      @titorosado6198 3 года назад +1

      On a basic level, a keyboard with no dynamic response light action (one that only requires the strength of the fingers to depress the keys) is fine. If you want to dive deep, it is better to have a an acoustic instrument. It is fine if you change from an electronic to an acoustic instrument after some years of playing and if you are on a tight budget you might want to buy a spinet or a virginal (they are still expensive but less expensive than a harpsichord)

  • @DarylSmith-zh7ig
    @DarylSmith-zh7ig 10 месяцев назад

    How many keys in the harpsichord

  • @aus822
    @aus822 3 года назад

    Im thinking of buying a harpsichord one day but i don’t know where to buy it and how much

  • @marcodonati572
    @marcodonati572 Год назад

    So clearly explained and interesting.
    You just got another subscriber.😊

  • @grantheron4595
    @grantheron4595 2 месяца назад

    Is the virginal not a harpsichord?

  • @victoriasuchodolski
    @victoriasuchodolski 4 года назад

    Nice!

    • @harpsichord
      @harpsichord  4 года назад

      Thanks so much, Victoria! And thanks for watching!

  • @caroliscaroles
    @caroliscaroles 3 года назад

    so cool

  • @netsaosa4973
    @netsaosa4973 3 года назад

    nice

  • @MrMalvolio29
    @MrMalvolio29 7 месяцев назад

    You began by saying that “the piano is older than the harpsichord, having been invented in the 15th century” (far older than *I* was taught the piano was) whereas, you said “the piano was invented in the early 18th century.” (?)

    • @Poppykat9866
      @Poppykat9866 2 месяца назад

      Yeah, she just misspoke and didn't catch it

  • @Battlebot111
    @Battlebot111 3 года назад

    I. Need facts on this for a last Second
    Project shitttttttttttt

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 3 года назад +1

    I thought the Piano came after the Harpsichord

    • @akshitsharma8475
      @akshitsharma8475 3 года назад +1

      Piano came after the Harpsichord.

    • @RockStarOscarStern634
      @RockStarOscarStern634 2 года назад +3

      @@akshitsharma8475 It actually did and Alice corrected it in the description

  • @ericoreilly8368
    @ericoreilly8368 Год назад

    That lookslike a clavichord? Oh whoops its a virgonal

  • @rainbowsquash673
    @rainbowsquash673 5 дней назад

    I guess you dont have to know anything about harpischord history to play the harpischord and make a video lol

  • @slapmyfunkybass
    @slapmyfunkybass 5 месяцев назад

    Piano is older than the harpsichord???