This kind of amazing information is lost on most people, I'm certain. Thank you for creating these comparisons. They are SOOO enlightening for the understanding of those who have ears
The Mitanni as a source is highly likely, as they share many of the gods of the vedic age, such as Mitra-Varuna and Nasatyas, in their royal oaths. Them as a source is even more likely if we follow Dr. Gunnar Heinsohn's stratigraphic chronology theory, which poses the Mitanni as the ancient Median Empire, a time when IndoIranian Maurya horsewariors took control of the middle assyrians, at the same time the Chaldeans/Kassites controlled Babilon, which also had some IndoIranian sounding gods like Maruttash(Maruts/Rudras), Suriash(Surya), and Buriash(boreas/parjyana).
I was starting to lean toward the Medes recently, and when I said the “descendants of the Mittani” I was implying the Medes and related people. So I would be very open to this possibility. Thanks for your comment and information.
How much of the biblical corpus do you think is actually demytholigised myths that could correspond to Canaanite, Mesopotamian, and even Indo-European myths? Because I suspect a great deal of the supposed history recorded in the bible before the Babylonian Exile and establishment of the second temple to be more mythological than historical
There are plenty of Greek "borrowings" in the old testament from the ram sent from God that Abraham sacrificed instead of Isaac to God sending a lying spirit to deceive Ahab. Even in the new testament, when Jesus went to speak to the demon in the cave and drove them into swine is play by play lifted from Odysseus in the cave with the cyclopes Polyphemus.
That’s a great question and one that’s quite hard to answer. It’s a possibility for many of the stories. The ones that have the clearest case for them are the binding of Isaac as mentioned, and of course Adam and Eve and Noah. The others I can’t say.
Excellent work, as always, Mr. Dolan. How ancient is the Vedic Story being quoted here in comparison to the age of the Hebrew text? I am always curious to see the time gap between the stories being told and the cultures they're told by.
Thanks for watching. Parts of the story of Dadhici appear in the Rig Veda particularly his bones becoming the vajra weapon that slays Vritra (Rig Veda 1.84.13), and I think possibly his interaction with the Ashvins. The Rig Veda oral composition is dated by scholars to 1500-1200 bce, with mandala 1 (the cited hymn) being part of the later layer of compositions. The fleshed out narrative of Dadhici along with Daksha only appears in the Puranas and Mahabharata which are later texts, but very hard to date and I’m not an expert on the dating. I mainly used Mahabharata, Siva Purana and Vayu Purana for the full narrative in these videos. However, I of course also show that much of the mythic narrative (the Daksha mythos has much more to support this than the Dadhici mythos) likely goes back to Proto-Indo-European basis due to the parallels in the European myths.
@@taliesinsmap7938 Can you please tell me whether it's pronounced SKY-thians or SITH-ians? I have heard it pronounced both ways in other videos, and presuming they pronounced "C" with a hard sound like "K" it seems the first example would be correct. Did they even call themselves by that name? Please let me know, if you know. Thanks!
@@taliesinsmap7938 I understand this was a ‘clip’ from a longer video(?) All the same, was impressed; first time seeing a yt presentation that analyzes and references these themes cross-culturally. The clip was very good - gave me new info/perspective, and left me with more questions - a joy. I shall watch the full length presentation if I can. 🙇🏻
That’s great feedback! With a clip like this it’s hard to know if it will make any sense at all out of context, since the full arguments add a lot. Glad to hear it was comprehensible.
Very interesting video, May I bother you by asking if you would have a bibliography you would feel like suggesting in order to read more about it? First time on the channel and while I don’t have enough insights or experience to understand nor debate any of the points you’re making, it was most fascinating to give food for thoughts to my brain, thanks for taking the time to create the videos. Ps: May I ask some more info about your book as well. I’m doing a research on Celtic tribes and the evolution of their mythology in their flowing through Europe and I would be most interested to know what would be inside your manuscript. Thanks :)
Happy to recommend some sources but it depends what you’re looking for. Sources for this video would be: -The Siva Purana, Book 2 (sections on Daksha and Dadhichi) -The Mahabharata, Santi Parva 283.26-33 - Vayu Purana and others - The Rig Veda tr. by Jamison and Brereton is of course relevant - Jan Gonda’s books on Prajapati, such as Prajapati’s Rise To Higher Rank and The Creator and His Spirit, some others on related topics - Henk Bodewitz, Vedic Cosmology and Ethics (more discussion of Prajapati) - The Presence of Siva by Stella Kramrisch As for my book, it goes through the Celtic myths and decodes each god in terms of comparative mythology. Thus it clarifies the identities of many of the gods in the Celtic pantheon such as Fionn, Lugh, Nuada, The Dagda, Midir, Aengus, Manannan, etc. By understanding these Celtic myths, the book then also is able to reconstruct the Proto-Indo-European mythology much more accurately than has been possible previously. I’m working on the second book that will go a long way toward completing this project.
What? Yahweh gave Moses a cool staff and the ability to turn his hand rotten 😂 But Siva, or Lord Shiva 🤔🤷🏻♂️ gave Dadhici the abilities of Wolverine 😂
The Exodus is full of Egyptian names, references and places, occams razor suggests it happened were it happened, when it happened. Similarities in patterns do not imply borrowing or copying, histories have a way of unfolding.
Arkenaten is Enoch or Moses Tutmoses III is Joshua Rameses II is King David 146 -216 years were missed between when Carthage fell and the Temple in Tyre was destroyed This places the Battle of Troy, Uriah and David, was in Tyre Lebanon, also called Uruku Salaam, Rock or City of Peace Shalim (Šalām, Shalem, Ugaritic: 𐎌𐎍𐎎, romanized: ŠLM) is a pagan god in Canaanite religion, mentioned in inscriptions found in Ugarit (now Ras Shamra, Syria). William F. Albright identified Shalim as the god of the dusk and Shahar as the god of the dawn.
@universalflamethrower6342 That’s not how Occam’s Razor works. The Lion King is full of African names, but everyone knows the underlying plot is loosely borrowed from Hamlet, and that it didn’t happen. An adaptation of some Egyptian names and regional place names onto a borrowed plot is not difficult to do.
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This kind of amazing information is lost on most people, I'm certain.
Thank you for creating these comparisons. They are SOOO enlightening for the understanding of those who have ears
Thank you for watching! To me they are mind blowing, so thanks for sharing the interest.
"Hey Moses, what's your superpower?"
'I can make my hand go leprous.'🙂
"......"
Virgin Yahweh : I'm gonna give a you a cool stick
Gigachad Shiva : *turns you into literal friggin wolverine*
Anyone thats read the bible and still thinks yahway is god neads to reread rightaway
No.
Anyone who wears a pink bunny outfit is an Asian Drug Trafficker
The Mitanni as a source is highly likely, as they share many of the gods of the vedic age, such as Mitra-Varuna and Nasatyas, in their royal oaths. Them as a source is even more likely if we follow Dr. Gunnar Heinsohn's stratigraphic chronology theory, which poses the Mitanni as the ancient Median Empire, a time when IndoIranian Maurya horsewariors took control of the middle assyrians, at the same time the Chaldeans/Kassites controlled Babilon, which also had some IndoIranian sounding gods like Maruttash(Maruts/Rudras), Suriash(Surya), and Buriash(boreas/parjyana).
I was starting to lean toward the Medes recently, and when I said the “descendants of the Mittani” I was implying the Medes and related people. So I would be very open to this possibility. Thanks for your comment and information.
How much of the biblical corpus do you think is actually demytholigised myths that could correspond to Canaanite, Mesopotamian, and even Indo-European myths?
Because I suspect a great deal of the supposed history recorded in the bible before the Babylonian Exile and establishment of the second temple to be more mythological than historical
There are plenty of Greek "borrowings" in the old testament from the ram sent from God that Abraham sacrificed instead of Isaac to God sending a lying spirit to deceive Ahab. Even in the new testament, when Jesus went to speak to the demon in the cave and drove them into swine is play by play lifted from Odysseus in the cave with the cyclopes Polyphemus.
That’s a great question and one that’s quite hard to answer. It’s a possibility for many of the stories. The ones that have the clearest case for them are the binding of Isaac as mentioned, and of course Adam and Eve and Noah. The others I can’t say.
All of them. ❤
Don't forget North and South America, and New Zealand Moan having the same characters doing the same thing. Like E Io and Kore
Of course is mythological. What a question is that?
Excellent work, as always, Mr. Dolan.
How ancient is the Vedic Story being quoted here in comparison to the age of the Hebrew text?
I am always curious to see the time gap between the stories being told and the cultures they're told by.
Thanks for watching. Parts of the story of Dadhici appear in the Rig Veda particularly his bones becoming the vajra weapon that slays Vritra (Rig Veda 1.84.13), and I think possibly his interaction with the Ashvins.
The Rig Veda oral composition is dated by scholars to 1500-1200 bce, with mandala 1 (the cited hymn) being part of the later layer of compositions. The fleshed out narrative of Dadhici along with Daksha only appears in the Puranas and Mahabharata which are later texts, but very hard to date and I’m not an expert on the dating. I mainly used Mahabharata, Siva Purana and Vayu Purana for the full narrative in these videos.
However, I of course also show that much of the mythic narrative (the Daksha mythos has much more to support this than the Dadhici mythos) likely goes back to Proto-Indo-European basis due to the parallels in the European myths.
I wonder if it was the Scythians, since they were an Iranic people who didn't exactly go along with the Zoroastrian "reforms".
Ireland has the same root as Arye, Assyrians or Hyksos were Scythians, Sumerians were Iberian Settlers. That's why Caledonia became Scotia.
That (Scythians) also seems like an open possibility
@@taliesinsmap7938 Can you please tell me whether it's pronounced SKY-thians or SITH-ians? I have heard it pronounced both ways in other videos, and presuming they pronounced "C" with a hard sound like "K" it seems the first example would be correct. Did they even call themselves by that name? Please let me know, if you know. Thanks!
I have heard it most with the hard sound, but I am not good with pronunciations in general so unfortunately you’ll have to ask someone else!
@@taliesinsmap7938 Okay, thanks!
Ahura Mazda bless you
Think diffrent...and found right way....yes....you said correct
Liked the video; subscribed because of comments.
Thanks for watching
@@taliesinsmap7938 I understand this was a ‘clip’ from a longer video(?) All the same, was impressed; first time seeing a yt presentation that analyzes and references these themes cross-culturally.
The clip was very good - gave me new info/perspective, and left me with more questions - a joy. I shall watch the full length presentation if I can. 🙇🏻
That’s great feedback! With a clip like this it’s hard to know if it will make any sense at all out of context, since the full arguments add a lot.
Glad to hear it was comprehensible.
Dadhici with adamantine bones? Is the the Wolverine of ancient times?
Pretty much yes lol
Very interesting video, May I bother you by asking if you would have a bibliography you would feel like suggesting in order to read more about it? First time on the channel and while I don’t have enough insights or experience to understand nor debate any of the points you’re making, it was most fascinating to give food for thoughts to my brain, thanks for taking the time to create the videos. Ps: May I ask some more info about your book as well. I’m doing a research on Celtic tribes and the evolution of their mythology in their flowing through Europe and I would be most interested to know what would be inside your manuscript. Thanks :)
Happy to recommend some sources but it depends what you’re looking for.
Sources for this video would be:
-The Siva Purana, Book 2 (sections on Daksha and Dadhichi)
-The Mahabharata, Santi Parva 283.26-33
- Vayu Purana and others
- The Rig Veda tr. by Jamison and Brereton is of course relevant
- Jan Gonda’s books on Prajapati, such as Prajapati’s Rise To Higher Rank and The Creator and His Spirit, some others on related topics
- Henk Bodewitz, Vedic Cosmology and Ethics (more discussion of Prajapati)
- The Presence of Siva by Stella Kramrisch
As for my book, it goes through the Celtic myths and decodes each god in terms of comparative mythology. Thus it clarifies the identities of many of the gods in the Celtic pantheon such as Fionn, Lugh, Nuada, The Dagda, Midir, Aengus, Manannan, etc.
By understanding these Celtic myths, the book then also is able to reconstruct the Proto-Indo-European mythology much more accurately than has been possible previously. I’m working on the second book that will go a long way toward completing this project.
What? Yahweh gave Moses a cool staff and the ability to turn his hand rotten 😂
But Siva, or Lord Shiva 🤔🤷🏻♂️ gave Dadhici the abilities of Wolverine 😂
The Exodus is full of Egyptian names, references and places, occams razor suggests it happened were it happened, when it happened. Similarities in patterns do not imply borrowing or copying, histories have a way of unfolding.
Arkenaten is Enoch or Moses
Tutmoses III is Joshua
Rameses II is King David
146 -216 years were missed between when Carthage fell and the Temple in Tyre was destroyed
This places the Battle of Troy, Uriah and David, was in Tyre Lebanon, also called Uruku Salaam, Rock or City of Peace
Shalim (Šalām, Shalem, Ugaritic: 𐎌𐎍𐎎, romanized: ŠLM) is a pagan god in Canaanite religion, mentioned in inscriptions found in Ugarit (now Ras Shamra, Syria). William F. Albright identified Shalim as the god of the dusk and Shahar as the god of the dawn.
@@Uncanny_Mountain so your sources are "trust me bro"
@universalflamethrower6342
That’s not how Occam’s Razor works.
The Lion King is full of African names, but everyone knows the underlying plot is loosely borrowed from Hamlet, and that it didn’t happen. An adaptation of some Egyptian names and regional place names onto a borrowed plot is not difficult to do.
@@taliesinsmap7938 so still trust me bro
@@taliesinsmap7938 aand correlation is not causation bro,
All you do is fabrication
Nizari Ismaili.
Gujarati.
So a,, wizards competition each with a pet demon and help from their god ( drug)