CERNUNNOS Part 1: the Horned God of the Indo-Europeans (his Full Mythos)
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Most people still believe - incorrectly - that the mythology of Cernunnos, the Horned God, has been lost.
In this video I identify the narrative myths of Cernunnos in Gaelic, Welsh, Vedic, Hittite, Norse, Roman and Greek traditions.
This god is in fact everywhere.
Just because his myths have been misunderstood does not mean they have been lost.
Much can be learned by placing all of the versions of his myth side by side, as I do here for the first time ever.
By doing so we uncover one of the most surprising proclamations of heresy from the ancient world:
“Hard Polytheism” was apparently considered heretical in the Norse tradition, and this is one of the issues the “Cernunnos” myth revolves around and reveals.
Video editing by Arno Preiner.
Thanks to Arno for his help on this project.
Thumbnail Art by MOROSOPHVS
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Pronunciation "care•new•naus"
No. It's pronounced as kernunos Mehrican.. 🤦🏼♂️ Why don't u all learn what the rest of the world must universally pronounce the vowels the way they are? Instead making shitt up for dummies 😂😂care new naus..
A is A, not eyyyyy
E is E, not iiiiiiiii
O is O, not OoooOUuu
U is U, not Yuuuuğw
i is I, not AaAiyy
Em ay mising enyting Merikeğnn? ¿
inaf Ayy Quuu? 😂😂
I feel that will be required of us soon. Care new now.
@@AFMR0420 touché Good Sir 🌒🌕🌘
@@AFMR0420 full moon just passed. Lunacy full swing. Js. 🏴☠️
Kar not care
I'm hindu, I grew up with these stories and I love this ❤ wonderfully presented
It is sad that so few nations have maintained a continuum of their ancient cultures, I can only think of India and Japan (the latter of which at least shown it could integrate new religions like Buddhism alongside shinto). Besides that it would be natives in the Americas and Oceania, but they have many material issues to deal with.
Cornu is the remnant of what would have been Cernunnos-Carnonos, in Old Irish. Instead, he is named Dearc Corra which is another way of referring to Cornu or Gaulish Carnonos.
This video was breathtaking and I will be sure to listen to it, over and over again for a long time to come. I listened to it on one sitting and I am immensely satisfied. Thank you and I can't wait for part two.
Also, it interesting to note that the true way to approach the gods is seeing them as one unity that binds them all. Your comparisons with Eddic poems and the Rigveda are incredible!
Mithotyn being the Norse Vishnu god is also incredible, but I would like to ask, what about Hildebrand? Is he a Vishnu parallel or not?
One more thing, do you know when your next book will be out? Are you still working on it? It's perfectly okay for it to be a while as your videos are incredible. Thank you, J Dolan!
I was worried it would be too dense to sit through all the way, so that is great to hear. Thanks for taking the time, and thank you for your comment.
Yes Hildebrand seems to be the remnant of the more positive aspect of the Vishnu deity type. In my view, it was only gradually that the positive side of that god got somewhat forgotten in Norse tradition. He is a complex god, and if you lose the full context his destructive side can seem to dominate the picture, but it wasn’t always that way.
I am gradually making videos on most of the topics that will be in my book, and then I will gradually turn those topics into book chapters. Sadly I don’t have as much time to write as I used to, so the finished book is probably something like 2 years away (I don’t really know), though the articles and videos will keep coming out before then.
@@taliesinsmap7938 that's perfectly fine about the predicted timing of your next book. I am sorry to even ask such a question. I am a huge fan of your work. Your videos and articles are just as satisfying to me.
So it seems the Norse tradition of the Vishnu god is Hildebrand (positive), Mitothin (negative) and the Narasimha form is Fenrir.
Also, I wanted to tell, that the story "Finn and the Man in the Tree" may actually be called "Di Chetharslicht Athgabála" which is translated as "The Four-Regulations of Impounding Property" and several of Finn's Imbas Forosnai may be translated as "Before Femen evil judgement forms my sow, first-good-omen, longlasting-tree, longlasting-swiftness, shining sovereignty against tomb of Cúlduib I sing" and "with a blackbird a half nut vanishes (?) circles (?) the wilderness of Dercc Corra agreement of eating turns his course his apple fair tasting against sharp teeth son of úi Daigre" - translation and the name of the story by Morgan Daimler. I assume you read the story translated from the 1904 version, and for whatever reason the author at that time chose not to translate the Imbas forosnai yet Daimler did.
You’re badly wrong . So much . The name is the name the Romans transliterate from keltic . Nothing to do with uk . The God is continental as origin . We have a much older image of if in Valcamonica V century bc, it’s the oldest ever found till now . Should be interesting if you look at it
Cernunos holding serpent and torc. Like quetzalcoatl or jormungandr, two methods of rebirth. Natural or selected
St George also kill the dragon
Don't leave our hekate, demeter, and persephone. Most torch-bearers were female goddesses of various mystery cult religions. It's about death, rebirth, and the seasons from agricultural myths. These aren't proto-indoeuropean pastoral farming myths. 🧙♂️
@@Karatop420 i am highly supportive of the female variety. It was just about Cernunos. I come from a Matriarch family lineage. Inanna, Istar the female sphinx of Hellenistic era. Etymology of the goddess. The dying and rising couple 😉
@@UrbanPovertist well, my point was that it isn't proto-indoeuropean. It's from the agricultural farmers they terrorized.
@@Karatop420 just like the image I use. It was only named a devil due to colonizers. It was originally a Native American protection spirit. Dually noted 😺
Hail Sovereign Souls that hold their own
This channel is great. I was expecting it to have 100's of 1000's subscribers. Way underrated
This is the second video of yours I’ve seen and so far 2/2 all time hits… I have no idea who you are or how you figured all this out but many thanks
Wow! You are as in depth as any I have ever read! I must absorb this more fully later...SUBBED!
I’m twelve and a half minutes in and I feel this.
I want to argue just because I felt tension that the narrator doesn't want me to, but the calm background music soothed my temper
This "being" came to me in a dream recently. Ever since then I've been on a journey I simply cannot explain in words. It's hard for modern people to truly understand these beings and what purpose they serve. For it's all been diminished by the "church". But, there still out there amd working with/through us. Thank you for this friend
Hahaha I know right!
By the power of Haldol, you may repel the entity. 😉
@@cacogenicist Who's Haldol friend?
You're weak because you were born weak, from weak genes and a weak lineage. Religion has nothing to do with it.
@@22eorasHALdOL=AL-LAH=HELLiOS=SUN-GOD . 🌞
One question: If you identify Cernunnos with Prajapati (a manifestation of Bhrama) do you think that the 4 primordial druids on the "island of the north" that taught the Tuatha de Danan are the same as the 4 Vaidhatra, sons of Brahma and primodial rishis?
That’s an excellent question. I hadn’t thought of that before, but I could see that being a possibility.
We came from India . HAIL CROM
@@irishrebel374crom?
@@yoeyyoey8937??. Crom is the Irish sun God..
@@irishrebel374 nice so he is like Surya from India or Mithras or wyt?
jerich be nible, jerich be quick, jerich jump over the sacrificial candle stick. lol
The Dark God of the Abyssal Black Hole at the center of the Milky Way. Reincarnated by to Earth by his namesake in Switzerland. CERN
Hahaha! Good person, you have given that one the Smirk of Overarching Smugness. My thanks.
@@malaltherenegadegod we cerntainly do our part. we upgraded from a Prius to a Tesla. howevever, the Tesla has been in the shop for 8 months so we have decided to walk to fight climate change!! 😌
@@rocky-bk5me I believe this calls for an honorable benediction to be bestowed! Le'see if I remember how to...do...this....
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...well if either your local cat population starts randomly exploding, or you develope strange mutations, JOB WELL DONE. If not, please call your usual physicia-magician to bring those li'l clay figurines and scary stuff. **Runs!!!**
@@malaltherenegadegod the neighbor is a crazy cat lady who collects strays. We have been bestowed with many cats! Everyone has began to slowly genetically mutate thanks to our wise and noble computer virus/anti-virus salesman turned physicia-magician Bill Gates. i shall meditate on your prophetic words as i build my Klause Scwab figurine of clay.
@@malaltherenegadegod my neighbor is a eclectic collector and we have been bestowed with many cats. however, none have yet to randomly explode.
We all continue to develop mutations though our computer virus/anti-virus salesman turned physician-magician, the Honorable William Gates says not to worry.
i will ponder your prophetic words as i make this Klaus Schwabb dradel figurine from clay as Bill is out of town on business.
Keeper of paths
Which are seldom trod.
For he is Herne
The old forest God.
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In ancient times, the title "Two-Horned One" most famously refers to Alexander the Great. This epithet is particularly associated with him in the Islamic tradition, where he is known as "Dhu al-Qarnayn" (literally "the Two-Horned One"). The name comes from the belief that Alexander wore a helmet with two horns or because of the depiction of him with horns in some ancient coins and statues, symbolizing his power and connection to the divine.
The term appears in the Quran, where Dhu al-Qarnayn is portrayed as a great ruler who traveled to the ends of the earth. However, the identity of Dhu al-Qarnayn has been the subject of debate among scholars, with some proposing other historical figures, but Alexander the Great remains the most widely accepted identification.
His mother was Olympias and she was a devotee of Dionysus, so we can assume Alexander was a huge follower too.
Dionysus/Bacchus/Bel/Ba'al/Enlil is often associated with Lord Shiva, while Apollo with Krishna.
Pashupati is one of many Lord Shiva's incarnations.
According to the Bible, Nimrod was the founder of Nineveh in around 7,000-6,000 BCE, and along Semiramis supposedly brought new deietes and temples to Mesopotamia.
He is described as "The Mighty Hunter Before Lord, or The King Who Was Rebellious Against God".
Jacque Pirenne says that Sumerians called Nimrod "Ur Nina", which means "Lord Nino" (Ninus of Nineveh).
The name "Kir-Ninus" in Greek could be interpreted as "Lord Ninus." In this context, "Kir" (or "Kirios") translates to "Lord" or "Master " in Greek. "Ninus" is a name that refers to an ancient Assyrian king or deity, so "Kir-Ninus" would be a contraction of Κύριος Νίνος/Kur-Ninos indicating "Lord Ninus" or "Master Ninus".
Cer-Nunnos certainly is depicted and it certainly looks like a hunter.
The mighty hunter before god?
Nimrod/Ninus of Nineveh/Lord Nino/Ur-Nina/Nin-Girsu = the son and warrior of Enlil/Dionysus/Bacchus/Bel/Ba'al.
Interesting
Look at the synchronicity sometimes, just looking for that…very nice analysis, thanks for the video
Sick video. Subbed instantly.
, never hv I linked together mythology with psychology, a deep dive indeed
very important video, bordering into poetry at the last bit. hopefully a written version will be forthcoming so we can study along.
Thanks for taking the time to watch. Yes I do plan to release a written version for this one actually. Once it is released it will also be linked in this video’s description.
Very interesting, but I am going to watch the whole episode to understand this as best I can, since your version is so different from other sources. 😊
I am going to make another comment. 👍
This is absolutely invaluable for a modern practice of ritual sacrifice. Fantastic.
It also had me thinking of the hunting and beheading of the White Hart(Stag) that the Pendragons partake in - and how in Erec and Enide an insult to Guinevere takes place during the Stag Hunt, with Erec entering into the sparrowhawk contest to avenged her, and thereby winning Enide.
Or bestiality
I'm assuming from your handle that you are in favor of these practices?
Sad and completely satanic
Do you think Cernunnos on the cauldron is wearing the horns? Or are they HIS horns?
I have wondered that myself. I lean toward him wearing a headdress of horns, which might make him like a human who is stepping into the role and uniting with the higher Cernunnos god.
However, when I look closely, it seems entirely possible that the horns are coming out of his head, through his hair or something. I don’t really know how to tell on that question.
As a practitioner of interpretatio graeca I pull all deities into the Greek mythological structure and figure out who is who from there. The Parjapati syncretism to Cernunnos works very well to flesh out the identity and function of Cernunnos since almost nothing is known of his nature. I always thought the Pan - Cernunnos equivalency didn't work. There is a deity in Greek mythology who I believe fits this role well, though he was not particularly revered by the Greeks, in fact I get the sense that he was looked down upon in the same way the Greeks thought poorly of the Egyptian gods who had animal heads. This god is the 2nd generation Titan-god Epimetheus, the one tasked with creating the animals while his much more popular brother Prometheus was tasked with creating mortal humans.
This is a fascinating idea because:
1.Prajapati/Brahma is also “That One” who emerges from the primordial waters in the Rig Veda creation hymn (RV 10.129). He is also identified with the primordial Agni/Fire.
2. “The One existent” is also called Matarisvan, among other titles, in RV 1.164.46. Matarisvan is the Vedic fire-thief, equivalent to Prometheus.
So the fire-thief seems to be a sort of aspect of Prajapati/Brahma. Perhaps then Prometheus and Epimetheus would make sense as two connected aspects of the one Prajapati type deity?
The other god who seems to parallel Prajapati is Protogonos. These could all be names from one shared root deity - or this is at least worth considering.
Thanks for your comment!
Ah yes. I've made the connection between Protogonos or Phanes and Parjapati as a primordial self-born creator deity as well.
Another comparison you might find interesting, one that I found extremely interesting anyway, is a comparison of the sons of Iapetus and the three male Amesha Spentas of Zoroastrian religion. In this comparison Khshathra Vairya, associated with sky & metal (the sky being imagined as a steel dome) is reminiscent of Atlas, the sky bearer. Asha Vahishta is associated with fire which is a match to Prometheus. Vohu Manah is the guardian of animals, similar to Epimetheus.
@@exucaviera9084 Iapetus is also known as Japheth son of Noah.. 99% of these "gods" are Noah's descendants, usually "Ham/Cush/Nimrod"
Dude, who are you? This is a masterpiece.
Taliesin’s mapmaker
Cernunnos is the guest of this world, associated with Faunus: In Roman mythology, Faunus was a rural god of the fields, forests, and plains. He was often depicted as half-man, half-goat, and sometimes with horns. Faunus was originally worshipped as a god of fertility, and was called Inuus when he made cattle fertile.
On December 5th, Romans celebrated the festival of the Faumalia to honor Faunus. The god of the Lupercalia is given many names - Faunus, Pan, Lupercus, Lycaeus, Inuus - even Bacchus and Juno are mentioned.
Lupercalia (February 15) - Fertility festival dedicated to Lupercius. Involved animal sacrifices (dogs & goats) and young men running through the streets whipping women. During Lupercalia, the men randomly chose a woman's name from a jar to be coupled with them for the duration of the festival. December 5th is 9 months 21 days after February 15th.
Dionysos is called “twice-born”.
In biology, it say that the heart of the fetus takes it's first beat at the end of the 3rd week, December 25th is 3 weeks away from December 5th, when the Sun is seen in the Cave of Ophiuchus, above the red heart of the scorpion, Antares.
The 3 leaps of the Gazelle, were known as the 3 twin stars of Ursa Major's paws, Alula means First Born, the right foot, Alula at mid heaven will be back at mid heaven 9 months 1 day 7 hours later, 9 months 1 day 7 hours equals 6,606 hours.
A day that is 16 days from the Autumn Equinox, 106 days from the Winter Solstice, 169 days after the Spring Equinox, each of those number will reduce to 7, and 77 days after the Sumer Solstice, back up 7 days August 31st is 183 days either way to February 29th Leap Day, when on Leap year it's the 250th day of the year, 115 days left, if you go 250 days after, you land on the same date as going 115 day backwards, 14th May is the Panegyric of Isis (Aset) Egyptian Celebration, when Asar (Osiris) was found and Aset (Isis) duly celebrated.
Hermes Trismegistus is "Thrice-Wise" because of his threefold origin. A Herm is the same as a Cairn. In some depictions, the Celtic god Cernunnos is flanked by the Celtic equivalents of the Greek gods Apollo and Hermes. Apollo is often depicted in art holding or playing a lyre. You can draw a line from Antares, through the star at the top of Ophiuchus, same distance away is Vega in Lyra, the Harp Star known as the She Goat star, the goddess Baba, wife of Zababa, seen as the right leg of Ophiuchus.
Our sun is tilted 7º (7.25), a 25 day spin at it's equator, 2+5=7. slower at each pole, 35 days each, 35+35=70 and 7+0=7. A point on the sun's 7º tilt, takes 79 years to complete 1 full rotation, 7+9=16, another hidden 7, another one is found with Mars and Mercury, every 79 years, Mars and Mercury show up together like twins, on the same day, in the same zodiac sign, Mars retrogrades 70 to 79 days, loops back around to the same spot in 707 days, conjuncts with Venus 3 times in 9 months, on a 77 month cycle, Venus retrogrades 43 days every 77 weeks, 7 weeks hidden behind the Sun. a Mercury year is 88 days, 8+8=16, creates 7 triangles every 7 years with 22 retrogrades, 22÷7=3.14 (Pi), Mercury has only 6 days of sunlight every Earth year, but if you count Mercury's mid day double sunrise, it makes 7 days, even with Earth's tilt with Polaris, a 0.7º degree tilt. In Hebrew Shiva means 7, the Smoking God of Destruction, who is said to destroy the universe every 2,160,000,000 years. It takes the Sun 2,160 years to cross a zodiac sign, every 4 years we add an extra day (Leap Day), 2,160\4=540 added days, which is 77 weeks, 540\7=77.14, as 7+7=14, and 77 +14=91, the number of days in a season.
Take 3 sevens (777), join them together, long end to short, they create a 60 degree triangle, 3x60=3 hours, 3x7=21 hours, the 60 degree triangle equals 24 hours, 7 hours to sleep, 7 hours to work, and 7 hours to play, at the end of 7 is the 60x7=420, Ha Ha Ha
The Dogon tribe knows that cycle, they wait for Sirius the Dog Star to show up between two mountain peaks every 60 years, then they celebrate for 7 years, going village to village getting Stoned. Mashu = Sacred Mountain = Twin Peaked Mountains
If you play the words "He Knows Dope" in reverse, it echoes "420", if you play Seven in reverse, it echoes "Novus", Latin meaning "New", play "Novus Universe" in reverse "77", the gematria value for Christ, the son of Mari, "Gift from God" the meaning of Juana.
Hee-Haw Hee-Haw 420
September 4th thru 8th 2040 is the very rare planetary alignment, all the visible planet will align with Spica, the hand star in Virgo, September 8th is the birthday of Mary, the first sight of the New Moon, of September 6th, my 79th birthday.
My god man, nobody asked for a thesis.
Mediteranian cultures ‘Phoenecian, proto Greek, Semitic Etc, all also worshipped the Bull … remnants are all around from Canaan to Iberia. In Phoenecian one god that represented this was ‘MLK’, the root of the word ‘Milk/ Melk/ Milch/ Moloko.
His name was ‘supposedly’ pronounced ‘Moloch’ . God of the milk / fertility cycles of cattle… Milk in these times (and now in raw form only) was a sacred drink that was essential for brain growth of our species as ‘giant brained’ ape so one might interpret this as Moloch bringing consciousness to ‘man’ as a species.
After learning my DNA anvestory I have really been studying the Norse and Celtic tradition and I absolutely love it. Finding these traditions has been like coming home. And that is why I will always be a pagan till the day that I die.
Thank you for the time you took to create this video
I onced remebered that in one of many of Myrddin Wyllt's depictions, he is supposedely wearing a horn antler after the defeat of his master Gwenddoleu Ab Ceidio, because, apparently, he has gone mad. It is possible that this might not be a parallel to Cernunnos, and Myrddin is just a continuation of the god Gwydion, but it was something very interesting indeed.
I'm glad the whole dilemma of Conall Cernach as the irish Cernunnos is finally over, even I was kinda convinced by this theory at one point.
That is quite interesting. Maybe in Merlin’s case his horns mirror those of Pan then?
Yes, I also was drawn to the Conall Cernach parallel for awhile. But luckily Conall has a much clearer parallel in Valli son of Odin, and Cernach doesn’t actually mean horned or come from the same root.
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Yes, I can see Myrddin Wyllt as a Pan/Gwydion parallel, but that one description was so thought provoking that it was impossible not to make such comparisons.
I am interested on the biblical story you think matches the Cernunnos myth. You know I am a devout christian, so it is exciting to see what did you find. I'm trying to see which characters resonate with the myth. The only possible candidates are Esau and Jacob, maybe? I don't think Nebuchadnezzar fits this narrative, even when his seven years of madness are indeed attested in cuneiform as a strange period of time when the king was absent from his rule. And since I have the goal of finishing my bachelor degree in Theology, my future goals are Biblical and Indo European comparisons.
Well I genuinely hope it won’t offend, but it will be a provocative video and a comparison I couldn’t avoid making. Take it for what it is. It will center on the Golden Calf sacrifice.
@@taliesinsmap7938
Never I have been offended when you bring the Bible in your theories, never, I actually appreciate it because it helps me on my future projects. I'm not mentally closed to what other people believe. I'm not that kind of christian so, you're totally fine, you always have my support.
I did considered the Golden Calf episode. There is this ongoing theory in Biblical archeology that the calf was representing a local Egyptian deity, and since the people of Israel were worshipping it in very provocative ways, it means there is some fertility aspect behind it. And it just shows you that the Israelites were so inclined to their pagan ways adopted in Egypt that no many christians consider.
Well thank you for your open minded approach and genuine interest in the subject. All truth is God’s truth, we only have to try to understand how it fits in its place. That is an interesting theory regarding the Israelites, and it may be another piece of the puzzle. My video will only provide one additional piece to a complex picture.
Brilliant. Subbed
Will you look at the canaanite pantheon and how one brother yahweh sort of usurped the pantheon over baal his brother under El, and compare that to other narratives
The channel Esoterica covered that pretty well over 2 Yahweh videos. Hes like a "Rabbinical Scholar" but hes tolerable to listen to.
Taliesins Map covers European myth primarily with minor touches on other cultural myths. Doubtful he will cover it in whole, theres too much we need to learn about our own myths.
I won’t be looking at that particular topic, but Part 2 will discuss a Canaanite myth related to Cernunnos.
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Interesting we were all brought here at the same time, probably hearing the name but butchering the spelling when researching. And then, viola. Here we are. What a time to be alive.
CORN-nunnos
I knew it! He is, indeed, the god of corns.
Corne... french word for horn. Cornu.... with horn.
CERN-unnos.... the torc "circle" like Shiva "the Statue"
Khorne nunnos.
There are different ways to say it, everyone in this comment section is correct
@jean-rochdion4898 so does that mean the word Corn is just cus Europeans thought maize looked kinda like horns? Cus that's stupid and I may start calling it maize in protest.
Time(Daksha/Kronos/Ceuro-unnos/Coronos) is emergent, out of property (of Prjapati/Brahma). The more I listen to these fragmented manuscripts, the more convinced I become that they are academic scientific texts, mistranslated, and misinterpreted, evolving into gods, spirits, and mythos.
(Anoana)
Lokasenna reads a bit like this too.
Loki chastises all the gods with slanderous accusations.
All the goddesses are accused of cheating on their husbands.
What changes is Loki gets 'hunted' down and bound in the cave.
However, that change still leads to the 'Rudra' placeholder, Loki, retreating and having a prolonged absence from the world.
Lokasenna was one that we considered in this comparison indeed. It’s very similar, but ultimately I believe it’s a different myth type. Maybe there are intentional echoes or overlapping material though.
in ireland i believe the celts never came here , i think their designs and dress was in style and ended up being trades across europe hence why so much is found everywhere
In Spanish, cornudo means with horns.
Nice job, really enjoyed it, looking forward to part 2, new subscriber too
Thanks for watching
"In Season"
When a female animal is "in season," she is ready to mate and can become pregnant. Gaia is now in season, and I don't mean the yearly kind, I'm thinking it's linked to the conjunction cycle of Mars and Venus, they conjunct 3 times in 9 months, as the as the baby will develop through 3 trimesters in 9 months. On the first day Venus goes into retrograde, Mars descends down upon her, conjuncts 3 times in 9 months, repeats after 77 months, like clock work, does this for about 180 years, then falls off it's mark, missing that first day of retrograde for about 90 years, in Archery, missing your mark is called "Sinning", Mars and Venus started sinning back in 1960, and the people started to want change in the world, mass protest started in the 1960's, including civil rights and anti-war demonstrations.
Did they give birth to the hidden one, the Guest of this world, the odor Gaia puts off, calls Cernuous back to spread his seed, we're in the fruiting stage, next is the harvest, collecting the seeds, for the next grow cycle, the Fruit Tree, only has so many fruiting seasons, before a new tree must be planted, but the old tree is in the way.
Where did all the people come from, it was after the "Sin Eve" did, playing those words in reverse will echo "Venus".
Bucks, or male deer, shed their antlers annually in late winter, usually from January to March, Breeding hormones keep antlers attached during the breeding season, known as "rutting", which occurs from October to early December. When the breeding season ends, hormone production stops, and the bone at the base of the antler, called the pedicel, begins to erode.
Testosterone
After the rut, testosterone levels drop, which weakens the connection tissue between the antler and the buck's head, causing the antler to fall off.
May i ask what your background is? Academic? Enthusiastic?
Just curious of how to place your theory in the maze of theories
Enthusiastic. I have a Masters degree in rhetorical and narrative analysis in English language prose. During that degree I did study and write on Beowulf under medievalist and comparative literature professors. This makes me an independent scholar, but not a philologist or medievalist myself.
these lectures are awesome keep doing it but could you include captioning for us hard of hearing folks?
Thanks for watching.
There is an auto-generate captions option under the video settings (gear button). They aren’t perfect but they are quite solid.
so what you are saying is corn is named corn because it looks like horns? and horns are just a type of ear?
xD
I presume you’re kidding but to be clear, corn as in grain or maize comes from a different root from cornu as in horn
Cornucopia... Corn is the abundance of food.
With the horn of plentyy
@taliesinsmap7938 it was before I watched most of the video, I now understand ears are made of ant holes. please don't take offense, loco loki trolls like me sometimes use rage clickbait to get a response, the best form of that for smart people is correction bait. deliberately posting something that's a slight error, a misinterpretation, confusion, or not relevant to the content but could be made relevant with steps. much like placing cookies and milk for Santa or a similar offering to attract a brownie or house spirit, you have placed out fantastic content and that has attracted trolls, the trolls increase content interaction and help you with the algorithm, this is a organic process that helps others find good work. I am sure in a few hundred years this type of interaction will be a ritual not even related to the internet where children dress in troll mask eat deep fried content bacon and fight by playing tug of war with a piece of taffy called the algorithm that gets longer by their fighting. that teaches you can benefit even from wicked and cruel things if you understand their nature and their role in nature.
Any connection to Cern the LHC? They do have the statue of Shiva
Shiva is the Hindu god of Destruction, his last Avatar was Lakulin or Nakulin (Lakulisha) who very much disagreed with the teachings of Buddha. Lakulisha Pashupata has been identified with the Bhedābheda tradition, which combines dualistic and non-dualistic monism. Lakulisha was born in the village of Karavan on the bank of Narmada in Gujarat and propagated Saivism. It has been maintained that Lakulisha's thesis conflicted with that of Gosala, and Lakulisha opposed Jainism and particularly Buddhism. Lakulisha is said to have restored practices of Hatha yoga and Tantrism, as well as the cosmological theories of the Samkhya and the duality associated with Samkhya tenets.
Kaundinya’s commentary states: "Shiva incarnated in the form of a human being by entering the body of a deceased Brahmana in the [village of] Kayavatara, thereafter wandered to Ujjain." This account matches those narrated in the Puranas and the Karvana Mahatmya, where Lakulisha incarnates in Kayavarohana (Karvan) village. The Pashupata(s) as enunciated by Lakulisha are called "Ishvara Kartri Vadaha (the creative power of the sovereign being)", the word shvana means Hound or Dog, is Nakulin was MacCullin, MacCullin is an Anglicized version of the Gaelic name "Mac Cuilinn" or "Ó Cuilinn," "mac" meaning "son" and "cuileann" meaning "holly". Cullen is an Irish surname that is an Anglicized version of the Gaelic name Ó Cuileáin, which means "descendant of Cuileán". Cuileán is a variant of the name Coileán, which means "puppy" or "young hound". Cullen is also considered by some to mean "handsome" or "son of the holy one".
Is Karavan coming from Shvana (Sanskrit: श्वान, romanized: Śvāna), a Sanskrit word meaning a dog, finds repeated references in Vedic and later Hindu mythology, and such references include the following: The female dog of Indra, a Vedic god, is named Sarama, and it is mentioned in the Rigveda.
In Sumerian, sha or sah means "pig", the name McCullough has both meanings, Hound and Boar, in Hebrew, Shiva means 7. Karuṇāsvana (करुणास्वन).-a cry of distress, a piteous tone, wail.
Nandi is the gate keeper of Shiva, a guild of souls like Mercury.
The name Nandi was widely used instead for an anthropomorphic door-keeper of Kailash, rather than his mount in the oldest Shaivite texts in Sanskrit, Tamil, and other Indian languages. Siddhanta texts distinguish between Nandi and Vṛṣabha.
Vṛṣabha, or Vrishabha, is a month in the Indian solar calendar. It corresponds to the zodiacal sign of Taurus, and overlaps with about the second half of May and about the first half of June in the Gregorian calendar. The first day of the month is called Vrishbha Sankranti, and it generally falls on May 14 or 15
Nisaba is Spica in Virgo, wife of the Door-Keeper, 'vir' (vri) is hero, 'go' is cow (bull), I see 'saba' in 'shabha', nin means Lady, Queen. Virgo is Virgin, a Man/Woman, a assinnu (Man/Woman), a Kalu
Kalaturru and Kurgarru, they descended to the underworld to raise the Queen of Heaven from the dead and escort her back to the land of the living.
The evidence concerning kulu'u -- assinnu and kurgarru in lexical lists ; assinnu and kurgarru in administrative and historical texts ; assinnu and prophecy in Mari and the ancient Near East ; assinnu and kurgarru in Cultic texts ; assommi and kurgarru in narrative texts ; assinnu and kurgarru in omen, ritual and incantation texts -- lu-sag / sa resi and castration.
14th May is the Panegyric of Isis (Aset) Egyptian Celebration, when Asar (Osiris) was found and Aset (Isis) duly celebrated. Osiris was castrated by Seth, fed it to the fish (dag/dog)
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Do you think Eikthyrnir may be connected to the servant who embraces Frigg in Gesta Danorum, if the servant is Cernunnos. I believe so and want to know if you agree based on some "evidence".The following is from Grimnismal 26 which reads:
Eikthyrnir the stag is called
who stands on the hall
and gnaws on Lærath's limbs;
and from his antlers
it drips into Hvergelmir,
from where all waters take their courses
Lærath could be another name for Yggdrasil, which may be the god Buri (Prajapati connected to trees, like Brahman is connected to Pillars) and Eikthyrnir could be Cernunnos due to his connection to the tree, Lærath like Dearc Corra is depicted being on top of a tree, holding a vessel of white bronze with a trout in it. As you explained in your video, you believe that the water he carries represents a part of a tripartite division of the cosmos, which Bíle-Prajapati has, as the god of wholeness. After all, Hvergelmir is described as "thence all waters have (their) ways" (þaðan eigu vötn öll vega) which may hint towards your hypothesis of Dearc Corra's on why he carries this white vessel of bronze which has water in it and a trout. It may represent Hvergelmir in the comparison of the totality of water. Which is connected to one of the roots of Yggdrasil which Gylfaginning 15 states "the third stands over Niflheim, and under that root is Hvergelmir" thus connecting Yggdrasil (possibly Buri, in a tree form, as Prajapati is connected to such) to Hvergelmir, which may mean the domain of all water, based on the aforementioned
That’s a very good question, and you may be right. I suppose it is difficult to say for sure if Eikþyrnir is just a face of the Prajapati type god himself, or of the Daksha type emanation (or something else), but one of those options definitely seems plausible, and I can see what you mean about how the scene echoes that if Dearg Corra. Since the water from the stag goes into Hvergergelmir, it sounds like he is very primordial, which makes him seem more like Prajapati himself, but it could be otherwise. He is quite mysterious. Intriguing how thyrnir can refer to the antlers, similar to Corra or Bheannach, as you probably noted.
Is it possible to read the script? Very interesting but fairly complex so it would be great to read.
I don’t have it available right now unfortunately, but someday I will add it to the description of this video and it will be made into a chapter in my next book.
Would you summarise this god as being symbolic of the sacrifice then? How exactly would he fit into direct practice?
Yes he can be, although more commonly he is like a proxy of it, and as we see multiple god are symbolic of the sacrifice. Can be quite confusing. His more specific role is as the representative of the skilled sacrificER. So he stands for the priest or sacrificer who performs the ritual, and it’s possible the human ritualist would unite with Daksha in that role and then would unite with the higher Prajapati as the full attainment of the rite. The Gundestrup cauldron horned figure could even be a human taking on the “Daksha” role, by wearing a horned headdress, I don’t know. But we do have ancient depictions of horned ritualists in similar fashion, so he seems to be a divine stand in for that sort of priest, and the human priest then takes on that role somehow.
Yeah I think the Vedas are pretty clear that the Yajña is Vishnu (“yajño vai vishnu”).
Absolutely
Ok, so let me take care of the interpretations of Cernunnos being Pan, or any of the others. These interpretations came about from said cultures learning of Cernunnos and relating him to their gods. In reality, archeological evidence shows this god actually likely predates the others. So if anything, these other gods were developed from the mythology surrounding Cernunnos.
Very well done my brother
Cernunnos means ; Day and night is around the corner or perhaps; night is around the corner of day.
Thank you. Watching from Alaska.
Humanity refuses to come to terms with mortality being final.
Om Namah Shivay 🙏🏻
Connecting these dieties with Rudra/ Shiva is a stretch. Connecting to Prajapati is not.
Rudra, meaning “the loud one” is, Shiva the active force of Vishnu. Vishnu meaning “the prevader” is the supersoul, of which all souls are divided.
Shiva is called Rudra, because “at the moment the lord split the living souls from himself, he screamed with all the pain they would ever feel in all their incarcerations”
This splitting, results in all the living souls and the multiverse. The prejapati is unique to this universe, is an incarceration of bhrama, the creator of this universe. You may liken him to chronos. However There are several Brahmas: each universe has its own.
There is only one Shiva, and all things are Vishnu, including Vishnu’s direct avatars, wherein the unified consciousness enters a universe as a seemingly separate being for the sake of that unique life experience.
Hm. So Pazuzu/Anzu/Abzu or Marduk/Enki/Anu. They are all the same entity. Even the story you give at the beginning is the same archetypically as the story of Anzu, who as Shamash, dwells within his daughter Ishtar. Yeah. Lol.
Yes bro!
And there is a particle colliding place called CERN. Hmmmmmmmmm. They try to open portals to other places. Nah just coincidental naming
I mean that would be nuts like who even made that?
great work! really interesting had to rewind a lot to keep track of who was who. I did not have the advanced concept that sacrifices and offerings could be for multiple gods at once. in monotheism or polytheism I just thought a offering would just be for what ever god or God it was for and that was it.
Right, it’s a challenging concept and it’s also hard to know exactly how it played out in ancient sacrifice.
Based
You definitely found an interesting parallel there
But isn't a bit too far to claim all these sacrificed gods are cernunos just based on a relatively shallow trait? Begin cernunos has antlers tbus he is the sacrificed stag
What about cernunos connections with torcs? Are they related to the idea of sacrifice? If they are, it would be a strong evidence in your favor.
A torc is a symbol of power/sovereignty/wealth (we have to guess its exact relevance in a given scene). Prajapati is the Fountainhead/Godhead, the manifested Absolute. He gives the power of sovereignty to the gods who are his children (like Varuna). So you can’t get much higher or more powerful than being or uniting with Prajapati. There is also the case of Hittite deer god Kurunta who possesses “the Kingship in Heaven” when he leads people away from proper sacrifice and then is attacked for it. So it’s a mistake to think he is a lowly god. Vedic myth also treats Daksha as a paired demiurge right alongside Shiva on the scene of creation, a sort of rival demiurge to Shiva there, fulfilling certain functions of creation that Shiva does not.
Prajapati also specifically gives food to the animals he creates, as this Gundestrup figure is surrounded by animals and as other depictions of Cernunnos show him dispensing food, or as Derg Corra gives food to animals.
@taliesinsmap7938 for thracians, sharing the food in a ritualistic context was the duty of the king. So this ties in with prajapati fairly well 🤔
Well, anyways, you definitely convinced me now.
Thanks for the questions and for watching! I agree it could also connect to the king and sacrifice. I don’t know if the figure in the cauldron is a human sacrificer emulating Daksha or Prajapati, or if he is one of those 2 gods. They all merge together in a sense, human sacrificer standing for Daksha who then re-enacts the scene of Prajapati performing tapas among his animals and distributing the food.
@@taliesinsmap7938I feel there are echoes of this in Judeo-Christianity, you have Lucifer who goes against the creator god by proclaiming himself the sole demiurge.
Can you make a video about this using graphs connecting them all visually
Maybe, if possible
Bull is Enlil in Sumerian . The flood God.
Good point, lines up well with Rudra
Enlil=Marduk=Yahweh
@@taliesinsmap7938type in the search - horned Shiva and look at the images, you will be surprised how horned Shiva looks like the image of the horned Cernunnos, that is, Cernunnos is Shiva and Shiva is Jehovah, it all adds up!
These parells make no sense Awran in welsh Pre Welsh Mythology Cumbric mythology Cocidius pre Celtic myth Daksha the Gundestrup Calderon literally shows his head getting removed and replaced by a horned animal and a lady figure laying beside him. That would be Nehalennia in Gaul Eelen in Later welsh mythology Irish Flidais, plus litterateur states Cernunnos is somehow related to Jupiter and mars that would be Lughus who is connected to Surya and his avatars celts didn't see avatars as separate life's like in Hinduism do to artifacts like the Gundestrup Calderon and inscriptions. Shiva in the story would be Atepomarus irish paraell Dian ceat & Mannan Mac Lir of Irish Scottish and manx mythology. Also many Indus god's sit in a meditative position
At 30:22 you reference Tar-Hunta, the Thunderer, and this makes me think of Thor.
Yes indeed, he might be partly comparable
The "horns" look more like antlers to me but idk fr js
Fun fact, project CERN derived it’s name from this
A kern-el of corn you say? 🤔
Hail Taliesin.
Bucks, or male deer, shed their antlers annually in late winter, usually from January to March, Breeding hormones keep antlers attached during the breeding season, known as "rutting", which occurs from October to early December. When the breeding season ends, hormone production stops, and the bone at the base of the antler, called the pedicel, begins to erode.
Testosterone
After the rut, testosterone levels drop, which weakens the connection tissue between the antler and the buck's head, causing the antler to fall off.
Looks like pashupathi from Mohen judaro , India.
CERNUNNOS sounds like Russian CHERNONOS which means Black Nose
Now make one about Pan 😮🐐
Can you add lyrics and more photos so theres a backround vid for those who are not listening to it like a podcast and are watching.
Unfortunately we don’t have the time, as it takes dozens of hours to make the videos in the form they are in
not surprising .. praying to a diety that can protect me and control dangerous wild animals would put my mind to ease as well if i were living 6000 years ago
Apollo would be connected with Enki not Enlil , both Apollo and Enki are linked with Mercury , Enlil is linked with Saturn tho
Saturn is Kronos, so... it checks out.
Apollo is not Mercury, neither is Enki. Enki is the original Sumerian name of the planet Mercury, which was renamed Nabu by the Babylonians. Mercury was equated with Nabu by the Romans, not Enki/Ea.
Enlil = Kronos = Saturn
Nergal = Apollo = Silvanus & Faunus
Nabu = Hermes = supposedly Mercury
Enki is Poseidon not mercury, that would be Nabu. Apollo is malevolent and sometimes benevolent and brings down lessons through poetry and music making him the “light” side of the Saturnian concept. He brings both wrath and hate and joy.
Also Apollo is not mercury that would be Hermes! Apollo is the twin self of Saturn sometimes confused with jupiter
@@jenathent4840 interesting! There is a video on this channel about Enki being Prajāpati/Útgarða-Loki instead of Poseidon (= Varuṇa), I recommend checking it out.
@jenathent4840 I’m glad we agree about the connection between Apollo and Saturn/Cronus
I would like to understand this better but it is entertaining nonetheless, great video 😊
Thanks for watching anyway! I’m going to try to make a short summary version in the future.
These stories are astronomical. The characters are constellations. They are created to remember astronomical events, how we tell time.
'son of the Hound of Ulster', is anglicized as 'McCullough'. In Scots Gaelic it is often rendered 'McCulloch', and translated as 'son of the boar'. The commonly accepted origin for the Scottish name McCulloch (McCullough) is mac Culloch, or “son of the boar.” According to the “Gaelic Names of Beasts” by Alexander Robert Forbes (1905), the Gaelic words “culloch” and “cullach” may mean a fat heifer, a boar, yearling calf, bat, a male cat, male crab, or a stallion), the word Culo means Ass, not a horse, but a Donkey.
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Hindu god shiva n we called him pashupatinath
I mention in the video how Pashupati is lord and hunter OF the animals, but the deer or antelope itself, the horned god, is Prajapati or Daksha
Hostióz Helpu Ufar fatai jaga iz wóðnas weraz 🦌
I thought it was with a K
Hinduism 😮 read vedas. You will get all non Abrahamic religion history. He is the God shiva ❤❤❤
Pashupathi
Wow! ❤
Cronos?
type in the search - horned Shiva and look at the images, you will be surprised how horned Shiva looks like the image of the horned Cernunnos, that is, Cernunnos is Shiva and Shiva is Jehovah, it all adds up!
I don’t believe any “horned Shiva” images are provably Shiva, but I can’t be sure
@@taliesinsmap7938this image is carved on a stone like Cernunnos, and the images are very similar, it’s fashionable to say identical, that is, the horned Shiva is Cernunnos, aka Jehovah
@@GodDemonPazuzuYaldabaothYahweh that depiction is assumed to be Shiva, it's never been proven to be him.
Like Kronos?
You could even include Osiris and Horus from the Kemetic mythos.
CERN - nunos
If you do not understand the stars, you're never going to under stand what they are talking about, all I hear is Star Talk. I know you hear me, Boo! do I scare you, ha ha ha
This is Orpheus, and the thumbnail shows a Thracian craft.
Celts once spanned almost all of Europe. It's Cernunnos/Karnonos.
@@wodansuz this piece is from a tomb in Bulgaria. It’s Thracian and it’s Orpheus. Celts were part of their tribes. Thrace was an empire long before the Romans.
@@DeyanWell Right... Orpheus, the famously horned god...
@@wodansuz 🤦🏻♂️ I just told you about this item and what it means. I can’t however, understand it for you.
What do you mean by saying it’s “from a tomb in Bulgaria”? The Gundestrup cauldron was found in a bog near the hamlet of Gundestrup in Denmark. It contains Gaulish and Thracian elements and the exact process of its crafting is thus debated.
Orpheus is not horned, so please provide your argument for the horned figure being Orpheus regardless of that major contradiction. Perhaps you have an interesting argument to add.
The man with horns on the Gundestrup Cauldron is not a god. On the cauldren there are distinctly very big human figures, and normal sized human and other figures. If the horned figure was a god he should be big sized. He is clearly normal size like the animals around him. And then there is a small man riding a catfish, and two bulls which are small, but never mind that. Also, I don't think you can use indian region to explain european religion, just because it is the best documented. The influence goes from Europe towards the east. India was the last place indo-european language speaking people came.
I’ve always said the horned figure on the cauldron could be a human. Although saying that size tells you anything certain is assuming quite a bit. As I said to another commenter:
The figure could be a human sacrificer emulating Daksha or Prajapati, or he could be one of those 2 gods. They all merge together along this axis, human sacrificer standing for Daksha, re-enacting the scene of Prajapati performing tapas among his animals and distributing the food.
That is what the human as sacrificer is doing when he puts on the horned headdress and appears in a tableau of this sort.
I’ve never claimed this is due to influence from India, it’s due to a common source
@@taliesinsmap7938 All right.. A man named Rudolf Grosse wrote a book about the Gundestrup Cauldron in 1963. I found it at the public library, and it showed me that the pictures on the cauldron are full of meaning. The problem is about understanding these things. The author uses references from all kind of different places. There could even be some from India. And he never says his interpretation is the only right one. I bought the book one year ago. Still first edition and cheap, because the authorized scolars are not interrested in R. Grosse's theory. I am from Denmark.
It does sound worth reading to me
Or you could just get to know them yourself
Kar not corn
@18:18 you said "Brahma was born from his Thumb", Alula may mean "First Born", the alula is the Thumb on a bird wing, the thumb is a symbol of Judgement, the wing a symbol of Messenger. Your thumb pokes up from the Trapezium Bone, the Thumb of Orion, the Bright Star Hatysa at the tip of his sword flows out of the Trapezium Cluster, at the center of the Orion Nebula, in Sanskrit, 'hatya means Slaughter, gohatya means Cow Slaughter, in Hebrew, 'yasa' means Savior, 'hata' means "to sin", does it means "Savior of Sinners", whenever Alula is at mid heaven, Hatysa sits on the western horizon.
Once, Brahma and Vishnu contest for superiority. An infinite, fiery pillar signifying the linga appears. Brahma as a hamsa (swan) flies up to find its top; while Varaha as large boar went lower to search its base. However, both fail the ends of the linga.
97 percent of all birds are missing what the swan has, lake fowl are known for having the largest in the world, per body size, even larger than the sperm whale, and as for the boar, they have the longest orgasm of any animal. 30 minutes, some times 90 minutes long, can you say "Hog Heaven" ha ha ha.
Orion is known as Sah "Sahu the Hidden One", Sah means Pig, Sahu means Boar. Are they taking about Orion's Lingam.
H-OR(RA🌞)NED(HNED=NEDH=ZEDH=SETH😈) GOD(GOTH=SETH) . 😇
The book of exodus has nothing to do with him. Etymology without the lord at center is misleading... apologia studios breaks these things down
They lose me when they try to link sumeria to o do European myths
Just wait til part 2
Anzu - Zu - Zues... But just wait till you find out where the Sumerians/Atlanteans got it from ☀️🤪☀️
I came here because PIE culture is fascinating, but as soon as you bring atlanteans into this, you lose all credibility. PIE comes from the 4th or 5th millennium BCE. it's a legitimately interesting mystery rooted in linguistic analysis and material evidence. Atlantis is a story Plato wrote about thousands of years later. Those two things are so far removed from each other that we today have more in common with Julius Caeser than Sumer had with Atlantis... Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but Sumerian is a la gauge isolate, and is not related to PIE 😅
Marchogaist ar draws wlad gyda'ch ceffylau, cerbydau a'ch llengoedd
Marchogaist i'n gwlad a'n damnio ni, ac yna galwaist ni yn genhedloedd
Marchogaist i'n gwlad gyda'r hyn a dybiaist yn iachawdwriaeth
Marchogaist i'n gwlad anwybyddu ein safaid ac yna cymerth ein ceneld
🤘🏻🤟🏻👿😈🦏🦄
ELDEN RING
Pseudo-Indo-european-theory!
The words and names you use are greek !
Sorry, I just can’t with this guy’s “my interpretation is the only valid interpretation “
He could present his interpretation as something that adds to the conversation but he is all about internet clout that you should only listen to his interpretation like he wants to be a cult leader (or maximize his follower count.
Don’t listen to this guy, he is not open to as anyone’s interpretation that doesn’t comply with his own.
I WISH that he presented his interpretation as something to *CONSIDER* in the grand conversation of PIE/celtic myth, but he clearly wants to be the only bard that his followers listen to and I will not have it
I wish there was a BLOCK option in RUclips because I can’t with this guy if he continues with this arrogant nonsense
Your interest in the subject isn’t very strong. I can’t afford to ignore any commentator’s material, regardless of how self absorbed or annoying I find them. You sound quite puffed up yourself by the way.
Well the parallels he brings up can't be ignored. Most people take a couple details or the name alone to make their comparisons of IE gods, but Taliesin's Map actually shows which characters have the same story.
@@Jackpwatson he's the only person who's ever put so much effort into interpreting Cernunnos and this is your response? Why don't you make your own interpretation of Cernunnos then? Because nobody besides Taliesin's Map has ever done so convincingly.
49:31 the context is this.
Genesis 10.21.22 Shem is ancestor of all the Hebrews, Ashur (Assyrians) and Aram (Syrians)
And he is the Melchizedek
Genesis 14.18
If you forget the Lord, if you make steel, if you make molten images from an iron furnace which is the Shiva Linga, for what purpose? What purpose to forge steel if not in the name of the Lord?
The pillar of heaven is the iron furnace. This is the great answer to the mystery religions.
From the iron furnace all else flows.
It can be used for good, for God or for evil.
But evil is deceptive so argues “god is fiction , religion is superstition , instead let’s embrace the science of good and evil!”
And so the false dialectic is born.
Not relevant.