You not only have to believe in Jesus. You have to ask him to come enter into your heart, and be your Lord and Savior. Alot of people die everyday, who do believe in the existence of Jesus. But they never followed through with the plan of salvation. Therefore they died lost.
there's no verse that says you ask Jesus into your heart... you have to leave your life and follow Him... You enter into His heart/His Life through the blood of Christ... There is a difference.
My family and I were a part of a Mennonite church for almost 2 years….. at first it was very inviting, but once I started challenging some of their beliefs and interpretations, we were labeled trouble and shunned ….. we were not even members of the church yet….. We are commanded in scripture to TEST EVERY SPIRIT! Any time someone lays down extra rules and calls them commandments and they go above and beyond the Bible, you need to run….. we have the rule book, it’s called the Bible. Our family believes in Biblical modesty and being set apart from the world….. but this does NOT look like one specific thing as they teach….Different cultures of people practice this differently, this is why the Church has to be driven by the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit pointing to TRUTH and NOT MEN’S TRADITIONS!!!!! The authority they believe the Church has goes above scripture…..yes the Church has the ability to rebuke sin…. But rebuke sin based off of what the BIBLE declares sin to be, NOT MAN!
@@blessedrthosesermount99 I wish I could give you a real thought provoking, philosophical answer……the only answer I can give is what scripture says…… men should not put on women’s garments….and likewise women should not put on men’s…… does this mean women’s pants are not acceptable for Messiah…. I can’t say that……but when women put on skinny jeans and halter tops, or booty shorts and workout tops for the world to see, does that exemplify fruit of the Spirit? The Bible does clarify that the exposing of the thighs is nakedness.
Interesting but what saves us not just believing in Jesus as the devil and demons do and they have no hope. It's believing that Jesus died on the cross for our own sins and personally repenting and trusting in Christ alone to save us. Then we do Gods will and the great commission after this but this won't save us. Only trusting in Jesus personally can save anyone. Good works before God don't outweigh sin.
Bingo!!! Thats what many people from both lordship salvation and "easy-believism" sides confuse faith over. Lets rejoice in the goodness of the Lord! God bless sister! 😁
My family left the old order mish when I was born. I'm one of the youngest of 1. I have never met most of my aunts/uncles and have only seen my grandparents a few times before they passed. I know not all communities are alike but I consider the amish an accult. Yes there are many genuine faith believing amish but the higher ups who run the show are pedophiles, and liars. I could go on for hours with stories and examples of how twisted things really are. That was my dads reason for leaving, so that he could freely follow his faith and callings
Good for your parents to leave a broken system behind. Sad to hear, that those make it to the top with some Amish orders, who probably fit the pharisee mantle all too well. Outward "righteous", but inward full of dirt. Whitened graves, full of death bones. Such will get a harsher judgement, since they do such enormous damage.
My father left the Amish before I was born, so we are in similar positions, except I’m in exact opposition of what you are saying. Shame on you for generalizing the Amish community to be evil, perhaps you are the evil one.
Yes there is a community near us they broke away from the amish and call themselves a christian community. They call it simple living and you can feel the spirit in them. They are sweet genuine people who told me they dont condemn anyone and dont believe its sin to have electric and things but they choose to live that way as it takes away from all the distraction and I understand cause Inwoukd love to live that way and hate all this technology and the stressful system we live in.
That means they are actually obeying Jesus. We are told to forsake all and go into all the world. Now they just have to go into all the world preaching and teaching
Two of my favorite writtings in the Bible are the story of the two men that went into the temple to pray (Luke 18:10-14) and the story of the widow that put two mites into the offering plate when it was all she had to live on (Luke 21:1-4). Both beautiful!
I think the better way to have answered the question is to compare the tenants of Biblical doctrine that are observed that define a true believer, (i.e. -by faith alone, by grace alone, through CHRIST alone, from scripture alone, to the glory of GOD alone). Just doing personality comparisons doesn't answer the question! What do they believe that lines up with the Bible to demonstrate the "marks" of a true believer? Shunning may be something you disagree with, however, a form of it is a Biblical concept, when we read in Matthew 18:15-17 - 15) "If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. 16) But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. 17) If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector." Apart from some practices, (which may or may not be considered legalistic), they do appear to hold to the core beliefs of true Christian faith, from reading their statement of faith!
To give some historical context, at the time the Anabaptist were formulating their positions on church discipline, excommunication and shunning was pretty mild compared to the torture and capital punishment typically employed by both Protestants and Catholics.
Their lifestyle is a choice and from my little knowledge of the community they try as much as possible to stay away from the corruption of this world as the apostle John said “do not love the world and neither the things in them, for love of the world is enmity towards God” so I’ll say big congratulations to them for being sincere and wanting to stay in love with Jesus
I guess tribal hunter gathers in Ethiopia are Christian are the true pious ones Its a man made Religion or interpretation of Chrisitanity. In the 1800s we were all the same. They are hypocrites morally and spiritual I know that sounds harsh. They will only help out other Amish yet as a Christian we should show Gods love to all. We should preach salvation to lost souls yet the Amish hide their light under a bushel. A few mandatory benefit auctions have popped up latley all for show so people think they are good. Their Bible is in German and sermons are in a German dialect they dont undertand. You get shunned by your community if you leave but are taught about Christs forgivness. How can you create your own man made subset race of people with all the inbreeding? God has a husband and wife out their for you is it with in a small community. Its like arranged marriages. They judge the outside world. Sexual abuse, OSHA abuse, thinking good works is the way to heaven, Work can be an idol and so can the almighty dollar.
For me it is about knowing Christ, if you know Him and His Word (God's word) you would also know you can not earn, lose or work for your salvation. Most Amish seem to lack this understanding. They are governed by rules, baptized into a religion with no calling or revealing by the Holy Spirit. So, while they are nice people and have good qualities believers should take note of, over all they are more liken to a cult than anything close to Christian in the sense we know. Being politically correct when discussing this deception does not do them or anyone else any favors. In fact it only helps the devil's cause by allowing elements of truth be used to deceive. I only pray more men of God grow a backbone and speak truth, God is not into democracy or political correctness. He is a King, final authority and righteous judge.
@@MrDan11422 You will have to be more specific with the question. I can say as a follower of Christ that God has a desire for all to come to him and be saved. I would never look or hope for anything short of all mankind. There is no political or authoritarian motive behind wanting to see people saved.
@@stellarguy1667 do you not comprehend that there are different versions of Christianity? Just because you believe in one version doesn't mean it equal to how or what you believe in. However ypu hear the one word Christian and assume it refers to your belief. You are a sucker with zero comprehension what it means. Do you believe in the same god as Mormon? How about Baptist, how about Catholics.
@@stellarguy1667 so Christian believe women should wear head gear. What version you believe in doesn't matter because right-wing narrative of Christianity believes in Donald Trump. A false profit
are amish christians is the same as asking are baptists , prespreterians or catholics christians ? I was born ,baptized and married amish and yes I am a christian,
So did you repent of all your sins and confess Jesus Christ lord and master of your life? And if you would die today, do you believe that you would go to heaven?
There are not cjristian living a life to please God is not about RULES AND Regulations it is about a relationship with our heavenly father and getting to know JESUS
@@drewjeers815 meaning repent which is turning from your sin. Of course doesn’t mean you won’t sin anymore ever. But with an honest heart will do your best not to sin and to follow him.
@@jdj2022 Dana is right. Most Christians don’t want to deny themselves, pick up their cross and follow Jesus. True genuine faith and love for Jesus will produce good works/fruits.
Bible teaches deny yourself and follow me,. Jesus said. Question to ask anyone. Did Jesus die for your sins? Did Jesus set the example? Is Jesus alive today? Is Jesus coming back? Will everyone drop to there knees and confess Jesus is Lord? If you say no to any of these questions, you need to repent and seek your God Jesus Christ Or you will burn. Bible says not one is good.its not by works alone but by faith and grace. Amen Now pray that God soften the hearts of these people to seek Jesus. All religions are made made,.Jesus is not about religion. Be Christ like.Amen
@@matiasdelgado7011 yes ,.for all religions are man made ,.Jesus is not a religion. Religion means to believe in something,. But man twist words and meanings.
how does one become Amish because I am starting to think that they actually know the truth I have figured some things out, pretty sure technology isnt what we think it is
I was wondering if any of them have any assurance of salvation in Florida they seem a bit more relaxed so I do not know. I know the ones I've tried to meet shunned me when I visited an Amish community and in Indiana and they were all rude to me as a teenager seemed like a cult but maybe it varies like in Florida I do not know but any kids who break away from it during rumphschpringe and leave and not return they shun them and they all say they were shunned through control. Amish life is usually about being controlled to the extreme
I agree with MSRX. I think a lot of times we get canon belief vs. cultural tradition confused. Something funny I though about.. did Jesus and his Disciples shun water that came from a Roman aqueduct? I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say no otherwise we would have read it in historical documents or scripture. One story. I worked in a hospital when I was was young and there was an Amish family that was there. I walked up to them and asked them if there was anything I could do to help them and they drew their children closer to them then ignored me. Painting with a broad brush but I believe they see the outside world as so sinful that they are scared to interact with those outside their belief system.
This video didn't really answer the question, too much of your own personal feelings about the Amish. It would have been nice if you could have gone deeper into this with Scripture.
I just read "Joy in Submission- The Story of the Annabaptist Faith" which was lent to me from an Amish friend. Yes they are Christians, according to their written beliefs. Whether any "Christian" is actually a Christian and could be proven guilty of being a Christian by Jesus is the bigger question.
The Bible doesn’t say not to use modern technology?! It may not in so many words. But we should explore the definition of the word ( need). And (destroy). Because the Bible does say do not take what you do not need. I can’t remember the verse that says this. But the Bible also says that there will be destruction on them that destroy the earth. Revelation 11:18. We lived for thousands of years without electricity, so it’s safe to say that as far as the word goes. We do not (need) electricity for life. I’m not trying to play the hypocrite I do obviously use electricity. But my statement is in response to the speakers statement that the Bible doesn’t say not to use modern technology. It may not specifically say do not use modern technology. But as I pointed out it does describe how one should live according to need. 1 Timothy 6:8-11. And I think that the use of nuclear and coal power plants can do and have caused destruction on the earth unnecessarily for life to exist. God gave us the ability to advance technologically as part of our cognitive capabilities. But that said. We may not have chosen the right path forward. Just my thoughts. God bless you all. Love in Christ our lord, Mark. 🕊
@Amanda Harris Yet it is God that gave us the minds to create, not Satan. However I do believe Satan uses technology to draw us away from our walk with the lord. He uses entertainment as a replacement for joy. Remember everything (not sin) is lawful, but not everything is beneficial. 1 Corinthians 10:23 Do All to the Glory of God 23 “All things are lawful,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful,” but not all things build up.
@Amanda Harris yes I’m sure he is also “ greed” lust of the flesh , lust of the eye, pride of life.. but God uses what he means for harm, for his good purpose also. 🙏🏼🕊
@@ֆքǟռ-m5g that´s why even some jews, muslims and non abrahamanic religions are against technology. Like sayed Niszche the man killed God with the modern world.
tracing lineage means nothing...and believing in Christ as the divine son of God, well even Satan believes this, you didn't mention repentance, or the gospel. And we all know about their rejection of electricity etc. So you're really not explaining anything, you're purposely talking about this other nonsense and not getting to the very heart of the question. This is 8 minutes I won't get back...
Jesus Christ paid the price for ALL the World's sin, 2 Corinthians 5 19-21kjv. He shed his blood on the Cross for our redemption and for the forgiveness of sins, Ephesians 1 7kjv. All you have to do is believe that Jesus Christ died for your sins, was buried and rose again and you will be saved, 1 Corinthians 15 1-4kjv. You will then be sealed with the Holy Spirit of Promise, Ephesians 1 13-14kjv. Paul is the Apostle to the Gentiles, Romans 11 13kjv, and we refer to Romans to Philemon for our salvation. Please look up rightly dividing the Word of Truth, 2 Timothy 2 15 kjv. 🕊 Amen.
Luke 14:33 "So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple." Luke 12:33-34 "[33] Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth. [34] For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." Matthew 6:19-21 "[19] Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: [20] But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: [21] For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." Matthew 6:24-34 "[24] No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. [25] Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? [26] Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? [27] Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? [28] And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: [29] And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. [30] Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? [31] Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? [32] (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. [33] But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. [34] Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof." Matthew 28:19-20 "[19] Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: [20],Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen." John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments." John 14:21, 23-24 "[21] He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. [23] Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. [24] He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me." John 6:27 "Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed." We must obey Jesus, as Christians. Stop working for money, for the food and drink that perishes! Did Jesus work for money? Did Paul? Did Peter? Did John? No, and for those that had done it, like Peter, they left all and followed Jesus. We *need* to do this too. Matthew 7:21 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." Matthew 6:24 "No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." We have to serve God to do His will. We cannot enter Heaven without doing His will. We cannot serve Him and do His will if we also serve mammon, or money. Quit your job and work for God! He *commands* us to do this! Our eternal destination depends greatly on this one simple thing!
Worst 'Bible study' I've read in quite a while. The Bible clearly states: "Now we command you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from every brother or sister who leads a disorderly life and not one in accordance with the tradition which you received from us. For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example, because we did not act in an undisciplined way among you, nor did we eat anyone’s bread without paying for it, but with labor and hardship we kept working night and day so that we would not be a burden to any of you; not because we do not have the right to this, but in order to offer ourselves as a role model for you, so that you would follow our example. For even when we were with you, we used to give you this order: if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either. For we hear that some among you are leading an undisciplined life, doing no work at all, but acting like busybodies. Now we command and exhort such persons in the Lord Jesus Christ to work peacefully and eat their own bread. But as for you, brothers and sisters, do not grow weary of doing good. If anyone does not obey our instruction in this letter, take special note of that person so as not to associate with him, so that he will be put to shame." 2 Thessalonians 3: 6-14
The amish are living in constant sin. They refuse to carry out The Great Commision, refuse to be missionaries of Christ, and will be judged as such. The believe they are separate, but they only have fellowship with the unrighteous while we Christians who go into the world and brave the world of the sinners in the name of Christ will be accepted into the Kingdom. Do not be fooled for if they truly followed God and were obedient to Christ the Amish and their isolation will be viewed as cowardly and sinful.
Amish are Christians, I don't like this kind of analysis or nitpicking. Many believe Jesus was the Son of God, died for our sins and raised from the dead. And that is enough, let's not take away anything off the Grace of God for this is for anyone who believes. Of course some may have a more work religion which is not mercy, but you also find that in the evangelical churches. Even though they have an isolated lifestyle that does not always seem 'Biblical', still, Christ's mercy is for everyone. Amish have not partaken in technology which is great, because they are more open to praying, meditating and listening to the Voice of the Holy Spirit who leads us in daily life
Yep deep tradition substituted as witchcraft. Its called baurache or something like that. The sexual abuse, the lust for power and control,the untold mental health issues. Think about the disconnect of being a full time larper and then being pinned down by mindless rules. Salvation is not thru good or hard works. The inbreeding. The fact they dont spread the gospelmof christ and no missionary work makes em hypocrites. The shunning. Never built this Nation or fought for it yet reap all her benefits. If you look at the Amish in a critical way they are messed up people that get away with alot and need to know Christ. We romantize em that they think they are infallible. You dont need to be in a sect/ cult to live simply or plainly heck go live in the Amazon in a hut lol for some real piety. Man made religion. My biggest gripe with em is that they think they are better than you and I and in fact are not humble. They think they are morally and spirtually superior in every way and its that Us vs the outside world mentality. Really messed up folks.
a christian is one who believes that they know they are sinners and believe in their heart that Jesus Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again the 3rd day and confesses with their mouth the Lord Jesus. Faith in Jesus Christ alone and what he did makes you a christian. No one can be a christian just because they believe Jesus is the son of God alone nd does good works, that's not the gospel. Salvation = faith + nothing.
The real question is are Christians Catholics ? Because in The history of Christianity the Catholics preserved with authority the teachingsnofthe 12 apostles
@@ertfgghhhh The Catholic Church brought you Christianity and the Christian Bible. The dead people you are referring to are saints in Heaven and the mother of Jesus. Unlike you many Catholics revere these Saints and pray for there intercession to God. Catholics like most Protestants believe in one Deity, one God, represented as the Holy Trinity. I hope you learned something today.
@@Tozniak The catholic church did not start Christianity-God did by sending His Son to die for our sins. God ordained the church. The church is a group of believers with a pastor as an earthly shepherd. When Christ died and the Spirit came, the disciples traveled and discipled others while establishing churches. Christ is the only intercessor needed according to scripture. To pray to someone who is dead is NOT Christianity. You taught me nothing but need to be taught thru God's Spirit. Get a bible and read the new testament for yourself. You are under string delusion. You cannot even see that the act of praying to saints and the "queen if heaven" is unbiblical and heresy
@@ertfgghhhh you must know that Jesus established the apostolic church and that the Holy Spirit protects it from dogmatic error. You simply reject it. Sola Scriptura without the Christian Bible that the Catholic Church brought to us all via the Holy Spirit is a ludicrous concept. I get it, you hate the Catholic Church but that hatred is to your destruction.
The bible says many times not to have idols and not to bow your head to them. It's a play with semantics, thinking technology is has not become a god that the world serves. Every time you use a device you are sacrificing data to serve it.
Hey, you got even the simplest facts wrong! In 2018 there are 330.000 Old Order Amish in North America and they are in 31 of 50 US states, that's not half but more than 60 percent! And then the question: "Are Amish People Christians?" Maybe they are Muslims or Buddhists or what? By the way, saying "Amish people" is somehow outdated. Today people who know a bit about the Amish say "the Amish", not "Amish people"!
So what? He looked up an older website about it perhaps. Your 'facts' don't have any true meaning. You've got the message all wrong. That's much more important. Do you yourself come from the Amish, that you weigh with such outward systems?
You not only have to believe in Jesus. You have to ask him to come enter into your heart, and be your Lord and Savior. Alot of people die everyday, who do believe in the existence of Jesus. But they never followed through with the plan of salvation. Therefore they died lost.
there's no verse that says you ask Jesus into your heart... you have to leave your life and follow Him... You enter into His heart/His Life through the blood of Christ... There is a difference.
Scriptural reference or it’s just an opinion.
My family and I were a part of a Mennonite church for almost 2 years….. at first it was very inviting, but once I started challenging some of their beliefs and interpretations, we were labeled trouble and shunned ….. we were not even members of the church yet…..
We are commanded in scripture to TEST EVERY SPIRIT!
Any time someone lays down extra rules and calls them commandments and they go above and beyond the Bible, you need to run….. we have the rule book, it’s called the Bible. Our family believes in Biblical modesty and being set apart from the world….. but this does NOT look like one specific thing as they teach….Different cultures of people practice this differently, this is why the Church has to be driven by the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit pointing to TRUTH and NOT MEN’S TRADITIONS!!!!!
The authority they believe the Church has goes above scripture…..yes the Church has the ability to rebuke sin…. But rebuke sin based off of what the BIBLE declares sin to be, NOT MAN!
Hello. I realize I'm reaching out to you 2 years later, but...what are your thoughts on women wearing pants. Ladies pants from the Ladies dept? Thanks
@@blessedrthosesermount99 I wish I could give you a real thought provoking, philosophical answer……the only answer I can give is what scripture says…… men should not put on women’s garments….and likewise women should not put on men’s…… does this mean women’s pants are not acceptable for Messiah…. I can’t say that……but when women put on skinny jeans and halter tops, or booty shorts and workout tops for the world to see, does that exemplify fruit of the Spirit? The Bible does clarify that the exposing of the thighs is nakedness.
Interesting but what saves us not just believing in Jesus as the devil and demons do and they have no hope. It's believing that Jesus died on the cross for our own sins and personally repenting and trusting in Christ alone to save us. Then we do Gods will and the great commission after this but this won't save us. Only trusting in Jesus personally can save anyone. Good works before God don't outweigh sin.
Bingo!!! Thats what many people from both lordship salvation and "easy-believism" sides confuse faith over. Lets rejoice in the goodness of the Lord! God bless sister! 😁
Amen ❤
If Jesus had died a perfect corresponding sacrifice by any means at all and been resurrected it would still be valid would it not?
My family left the old order mish when I was born. I'm one of the youngest of 1. I have never met most of my aunts/uncles and have only seen my grandparents a few times before they passed. I know not all communities are alike but I consider the amish an accult. Yes there are many genuine faith believing amish but the higher ups who run the show are pedophiles, and liars.
I could go on for hours with stories and examples of how twisted things really are. That was my dads reason for leaving, so that he could freely follow his faith and callings
Good for your parents to leave a broken system behind. Sad to hear, that those make it to the top with some Amish orders, who probably fit the pharisee mantle all too well. Outward "righteous", but inward full of dirt. Whitened graves, full of death bones. Such will get a harsher judgement, since they do such enormous damage.
My father left the Amish before I was born, so we are in similar positions, except I’m in exact opposition of what you are saying. Shame on you for generalizing the Amish community to be evil, perhaps you are the evil one.
I live in a Amish community and I agree with you. Very sad though, they're good people and I've made some close friends with them.
Yes there is a community near us they broke away from the amish and call themselves a christian community. They call it simple living and you can feel the spirit in them. They are sweet genuine people who told me they dont condemn anyone and dont believe its sin to have electric and things but they choose to live that way as it takes away from all the distraction and I understand cause Inwoukd love to live that way and hate all this technology and the stressful system we live in.
That sounds like a good personal choice for some people.
That means they are actually obeying Jesus. We are told to forsake all and go into all the world. Now they just have to go into all the world preaching and teaching
LIKE THE GREEK MONKS AND NUNS WHO LIVE AWAY FROM THE WORLD AND THEY ARE HAPPY
Two of my favorite writtings in the Bible are the story of the two men that went into the temple to pray (Luke 18:10-14) and the story of the widow that put two mites into the offering plate when it was all she had to live on (Luke 21:1-4). Both beautiful!
I think the better way to have answered the question is to compare the tenants of Biblical doctrine that are observed that define a true believer, (i.e. -by faith alone, by grace alone, through CHRIST alone, from scripture alone, to the glory of GOD alone). Just doing personality comparisons doesn't answer the question! What do they believe that lines up with the Bible to demonstrate the "marks" of a true believer? Shunning may be something you disagree with, however, a form of it is a Biblical concept, when we read in
Matthew 18:15-17 -
15) "If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. 16) But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. 17) If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector."
Apart from some practices, (which may or may not be considered legalistic), they do appear to hold to the core beliefs of true Christian faith, from reading their statement of faith!
To give some historical context, at the time the Anabaptist were formulating their positions on church discipline, excommunication and shunning was pretty mild compared to the torture and capital punishment typically employed by both Protestants and Catholics.
Good point
First believe in the Gospel and be reborn by The Holy spirit being. Filled by the holy spirit repent from sin
Their lifestyle is a choice and from my little knowledge of the community they try as much as possible to stay away from the corruption of this world as the apostle John said “do not love the world and neither the things in them, for love of the world is enmity towards God” so I’ll say big congratulations to them for being sincere and wanting to stay in love with Jesus
I guess tribal hunter gathers in Ethiopia are Christian are the true pious ones
Its a man made Religion or interpretation of Chrisitanity.
In the 1800s we were all the same.
They are hypocrites morally and spiritual I know that sounds harsh.
They will only help out other Amish yet as a Christian we should show Gods love to all.
We should preach salvation to lost souls yet the Amish hide their light under a bushel. A few mandatory benefit auctions have popped up latley all for show so people think they are good.
Their Bible is in German and sermons are in a German dialect they dont undertand.
You get shunned by your community if you leave but are taught about Christs forgivness.
How can you create your own man made subset race of people with all the inbreeding?
God has a husband and wife out their for you is it with in a small community. Its like arranged marriages.
They judge the outside world.
Sexual abuse, OSHA abuse, thinking good works is the way to heaven,
Work can be an idol and so can the almighty dollar.
is John Jesus?
Jesus said it, John just wrote it down
For me it is about knowing Christ, if you know Him and His Word (God's word) you would also know you can not earn, lose or work for your salvation. Most Amish seem to lack this understanding. They are governed by rules, baptized into a religion with no calling or revealing by the Holy Spirit. So, while they are nice people and have good qualities believers should take note of, over all they are more liken to a cult than anything close to Christian in the sense we know. Being politically correct when discussing this deception does not do them or anyone else any favors. In fact it only helps the devil's cause by allowing elements of truth be used to deceive. I only pray more men of God grow a backbone and speak truth, God is not into democracy or political correctness. He is a King, final authority and righteous judge.
Do you believe America should be a Christian nation?
Are you about making America into a Christian nation?
@@MrDan11422 You will have to be more specific with the question. I can say as a follower of Christ that God has a desire for all to come to him and be saved. I would never look or hope for anything short of all mankind. There is no political or authoritarian motive behind wanting to see people saved.
@@stellarguy1667 do you not comprehend that there are different versions of Christianity? Just because you believe in one version doesn't mean it equal to how or what you believe in. However ypu hear the one word Christian and assume it refers to your belief. You are a sucker with zero comprehension what it means. Do you believe in the same god as Mormon? How about Baptist, how about Catholics.
@@stellarguy1667 so Christian believe women should wear head gear.
What version you believe in doesn't matter because right-wing narrative of Christianity believes in Donald Trump. A false profit
Could you ask them if they believe in Hades, of resurrection, what happens after resurrection? thanks
are amish christians is the same as asking are baptists , prespreterians or catholics christians ? I was born ,baptized and married amish and yes I am a christian,
So did you repent of all your sins and confess Jesus Christ lord and master of your life? And if you would die today, do you believe that you would go to heaven?
There are not cjristian living a life to please God is not about RULES AND Regulations it is about a relationship with our heavenly father and getting to know JESUS
God bless you kind sir for sharing. Very informitave.
Most church goers do not follow Jesus either.
What do you call following Christ though?
To perfection?
If all fall short of the glory of God, I'm confused by what you're saying.
@@drewjeers815 meaning repent which is turning from your sin. Of course doesn’t mean you won’t sin anymore ever. But with an honest heart will do your best not to sin and to follow him.
Dana Smith where do you get this idea that “MOST” don’t. That would mean over 50 percent. How did you determine this statistic?
@@jdj2022 Dana is right. Most Christians don’t want to deny themselves, pick up their cross and follow Jesus. True genuine faith and love for Jesus will produce good works/fruits.
Then they are not true Christians, because Jesus is the only way for salvation. 🙏
Bible teaches deny yourself and follow me,. Jesus said.
Question to ask anyone.
Did Jesus die for your sins?
Did Jesus set the example?
Is Jesus alive today?
Is Jesus coming back?
Will everyone drop to there knees and confess Jesus is Lord?
If you say no to any of these questions, you need to repent and seek your God Jesus Christ
Or you will burn.
Bible says not one is good.its not by works alone but by faith and grace. Amen
Now pray that God soften the hearts of these people to seek Jesus.
All religions are made made,.Jesus is not about religion.
Be Christ like.Amen
So religions are evil?
@@matiasdelgado7011 yes ,.for all religions are man made ,.Jesus is not a religion.
Religion means to believe in something,. But man twist words and meanings.
@@francescocosentini9264 interesting.
@@matiasdelgado7011 take it to the Lord ,.pray on it always blessings
how does one become Amish because I am starting to think that they actually know the truth I have figured some things out, pretty sure technology isnt what we think it is
You have to be born into the Amish family.
Thanks. This was very helpful.
I was wondering if any of them have any assurance of salvation in Florida they seem a bit more relaxed so I do not know. I know the ones I've tried to meet shunned me when I visited an Amish community and in Indiana and they were all rude to me as a teenager seemed like a cult but maybe it varies like in Florida I do not know but any kids who break away from it during rumphschpringe and leave and not return they shun them and they all say they were shunned through control. Amish life is usually about being controlled to the extreme
In Oregon state, they use to have an Amish community. I always wonder why they left Oregon.
Too close to California.😆
I agree with MSRX. I think a lot of times we get canon belief vs. cultural tradition confused. Something funny I though about.. did Jesus and his Disciples shun water that came from a Roman aqueduct? I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say no otherwise we would have read it in historical documents or scripture.
One story. I worked in a hospital when I was was young and there was an Amish family that was there. I walked up to them and asked them if there was anything I could do to help them and they drew their children closer to them then ignored me. Painting with a broad brush but I believe they see the outside world as so sinful that they are scared to interact with those outside their belief system.
Poor children, getting this nonsense fear installed of them too.
It is not a fear of the outside it is separating themselves from the world like the bible says and many are really good kind people
@@terryallan6579Yes I have met many Mennonite individuals as well as Amish. The Amish hide their kids from the English and I don't know why.
Satan believes in Jesus and the rest sounds more like works.
But if if you believe he is Messiah and Lord, and believe in his blood shed… That’s a biblical definition.
James 2:17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
This video didn't really answer the question, too much of your own personal feelings about the Amish. It would have been nice if you could have gone deeper into this with Scripture.
I just read "Joy in Submission- The Story of the Annabaptist Faith" which was lent to me from an Amish friend. Yes they are Christians, according to their written beliefs. Whether any "Christian" is actually a Christian and could be proven guilty of being a Christian by Jesus is the bigger question.
Thanks for the answer
Commandments of Christ?
Unless your an Orthodox Christian, this question could be posed to every 'christian' sect in the US.
Beware yeah that think that yeah are standing..
? I Don't understand jibberish
The Bible doesn’t say not to use modern technology?! It may not in so many words. But we should explore the definition of the word ( need).
And (destroy). Because the Bible does say do not take what you do not need. I can’t remember the verse that says this. But the Bible also says that there will be destruction on them that destroy the earth. Revelation 11:18. We lived for thousands of years without electricity, so it’s safe to say that as far as the word goes. We do not (need) electricity for life. I’m not trying to play the hypocrite I do obviously use electricity. But my statement is in response to the speakers statement that the Bible doesn’t say not to use modern technology. It may not specifically say do not use modern technology. But as I pointed out it does describe how one should live according to need. 1 Timothy 6:8-11. And I think that the use of nuclear and coal power plants can do and have caused destruction on the earth unnecessarily for life to exist. God gave us the ability to advance technologically as part of our cognitive capabilities. But that said. We may not have chosen the right path forward. Just my thoughts. God bless you all. Love in Christ our lord, Mark. 🕊
Are you sure? I think Satan is apart of the big explosion of technology.
@Amanda Harris Yet it is God that gave us the minds to create, not Satan. However I do believe Satan uses technology to draw us away from our walk with the lord. He uses entertainment as a replacement for joy. Remember everything (not sin) is lawful, but not everything is beneficial.
1 Corinthians 10:23
Do All to the Glory of God
23 “All things are lawful,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful,” but not all things build up.
@Amanda Harris yes I’m sure he is also “ greed” lust of the flesh , lust of the eye, pride of life.. but God uses what he means for harm, for his good purpose also. 🙏🏼🕊
@@ֆքǟռ-m5g that´s why even some jews, muslims and non abrahamanic religions are against technology. Like sayed Niszche the man killed God with the modern world.
2 mins in and nothing.
tracing lineage means nothing...and believing in Christ as the divine son of God, well even Satan believes this, you didn't mention repentance, or the gospel. And we all know about their rejection of electricity etc. So you're really not explaining anything, you're purposely talking about this other nonsense and not getting to the very heart of the question. This is 8 minutes I won't get back...
Amish leave their community for another to prevent in breading and the genetic defects in breading creates .
Christians teach believe in Jesus or go to hell I know this very well
Jesus Christ paid the price for ALL the World's sin, 2 Corinthians 5 19-21kjv. He shed his blood on the Cross for our redemption and for the forgiveness of sins, Ephesians 1 7kjv. All you have to do is believe that Jesus Christ died for your sins, was buried and rose again and you will be saved, 1 Corinthians 15 1-4kjv. You will then be sealed with the Holy Spirit of Promise, Ephesians 1 13-14kjv. Paul is the Apostle to the Gentiles, Romans 11 13kjv, and we refer to Romans to Philemon for our salvation. Please look up rightly dividing the Word of Truth, 2 Timothy 2 15 kjv. 🕊 Amen.
I was born and raised Amish. I have left and become born again. I do not believe they are Christians. At least not most of them.
This is the version of Christianity America needs to be like. Your version is false.
Luke 14:33 "So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple."
Luke 12:33-34 "[33] Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth.
[34] For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
Matthew 6:19-21 "[19] Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
[20] But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
[21] For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
Matthew 6:24-34 "[24] No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
[25] Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
[26] Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
[27] Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?
[28] And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
[29] And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
[30] Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?
[31] Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
[32] (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
[33] But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
[34] Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof."
Matthew 28:19-20 "[19] Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
[20],Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen."
John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."
John 14:21, 23-24 "[21] He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
[23] Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
[24] He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me."
John 6:27 "Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed."
We must obey Jesus, as Christians. Stop working for money, for the food and drink that perishes! Did Jesus work for money? Did Paul? Did Peter? Did John? No, and for those that had done it, like Peter, they left all and followed Jesus. We *need* to do this too.
Matthew 7:21 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."
Matthew 6:24 "No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon."
We have to serve God to do His will. We cannot enter Heaven without doing His will. We cannot serve Him and do His will if we also serve mammon, or money. Quit your job and work for God! He *commands* us to do this! Our eternal destination depends greatly on this one simple thing!
I see your point, but have you left it all yourself?
Worst 'Bible study' I've read in quite a while. The Bible clearly states: "Now we command you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from every brother or sister who leads a disorderly life and not one in accordance with the tradition which you received from us. For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example, because we did not act in an undisciplined way among you, nor did we eat anyone’s bread without paying for it, but with labor and hardship we kept working night and day so that we would not be a burden to any of you; not because we do not have the right to this, but in order to offer ourselves as a role model for you, so that you would follow our example. For even when we were with you, we used to give you this order: if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either. For we hear that some among you are leading an undisciplined life, doing no work at all, but acting like busybodies. Now we command and exhort such persons in the Lord Jesus Christ to work peacefully and eat their own bread. But as for you, brothers and sisters, do not grow weary of doing good. If anyone does not obey our instruction in this letter, take special note of that person so as not to associate with him, so that he will be put to shame." 2 Thessalonians 3: 6-14
The amish are living in constant sin. They refuse to carry out The Great Commision, refuse to be missionaries of Christ, and will be judged as such. The believe they are separate, but they only have fellowship with the unrighteous while we Christians who go into the world and brave the world of the sinners in the name of Christ will be accepted into the Kingdom. Do not be fooled for if they truly followed God and were obedient to Christ the Amish and their isolation will be viewed as cowardly and sinful.
It was a yes or no question
I dont thinks we can have fair story because amish dont use smartphone.
@@kevinlawson830 well I hope they will be here in this channel to answer if they have one.
Amish are Christians, I don't like this kind of analysis or nitpicking. Many believe Jesus was the Son of God, died for our sins and raised from the dead. And that is enough, let's not take away anything off the Grace of God for this is for anyone who believes. Of course some may have a more work religion which is not mercy, but you also find that in the evangelical churches. Even though they have an isolated lifestyle that does not always seem 'Biblical', still, Christ's mercy is for everyone. Amish have not partaken in technology which is great, because they are more open to praying, meditating and listening to the Voice of the Holy Spirit who leads us in daily life
Lots of Amish here stand up honest people at least here
Iv heard they are very superstitious and practise their own kind of cursing, hexing and divination.
Yep deep tradition substituted as witchcraft. Its called baurache or something like that.
The sexual abuse, the lust for power and control,the untold mental health issues. Think about the disconnect of being a full time larper and then being pinned down by mindless rules.
Salvation is not thru good or hard works.
The inbreeding.
The fact they dont spread the gospelmof christ and no missionary work makes em hypocrites.
The shunning. Never built this Nation or fought for it yet reap all her benefits.
If you look at the Amish in a critical way they are messed up people that get away with alot and need to know Christ. We romantize em that they think they are infallible.
You dont need to be in a sect/ cult to live simply or plainly heck go live in the Amazon in a hut lol for some real piety.
Man made religion.
My biggest gripe with em is that they think they are better than you and I and in fact are not humble. They think they are morally and spirtually superior in every way and its that Us vs the outside world mentality.
Really messed up folks.
a christian is one who believes that they know they are sinners and believe in their heart that Jesus Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again the 3rd day and confesses with their mouth the Lord Jesus. Faith in Jesus Christ alone and what he did makes you a christian. No one can be a christian just because they believe Jesus is the son of God alone nd does good works, that's not the gospel. Salvation = faith + nothing.
That’s not true
Salvation is not = faith + nothing
Salvation = Faith + Philippians 2:12
The real question is are Christians Catholics ? Because in The history of Christianity the Catholics preserved with authority the teachingsnofthe 12 apostles
Catholicism is not Christianity. They pray to dead people and deify other than God/Christ. That is antiChrist.
@@ertfgghhhh The Catholic Church brought you Christianity and the Christian Bible. The dead people you are referring to are saints in Heaven and the mother of Jesus. Unlike you many Catholics revere these Saints and pray for there intercession to God. Catholics like most Protestants believe in one Deity, one God, represented as the Holy Trinity. I hope you learned something today.
@@Tozniak
The catholic church did not start Christianity-God did by sending His Son to die for our sins. God ordained the church. The church is a group of believers with a pastor as an earthly shepherd. When Christ died and the Spirit came, the disciples traveled and discipled others while establishing churches.
Christ is the only intercessor needed according to scripture. To pray to someone who is dead is NOT Christianity.
You taught me nothing but need to be taught thru God's Spirit. Get a bible and read the new testament for yourself. You are under string delusion. You cannot even see that the act of praying to saints and the "queen if heaven" is unbiblical and heresy
@@ertfgghhhh you must know that Jesus established the apostolic church and that the Holy Spirit protects it from dogmatic error. You simply reject it. Sola Scriptura without the Christian Bible that the Catholic Church brought to us all via the Holy Spirit is a ludicrous concept. I get it, you hate the Catholic Church but that hatred is to your destruction.
You are as clueless as they come.
You clarified nothing!
NO, they are amish. If there is a Christian amongst the amish he is on his way out. Amish worship there own god, the god of the amish
The bible says many times not to have idols and not to bow your head to them. It's a play with semantics, thinking technology is has not become a god that the world serves. Every time you use a device you are sacrificing data to serve it.
Hey, you got even the simplest facts wrong! In 2018 there are 330.000 Old Order Amish in North America and they are in 31 of 50 US states, that's not half but more than 60 percent! And then the question: "Are Amish People Christians?" Maybe they are Muslims or Buddhists or what? By the way, saying "Amish people" is somehow outdated. Today people who know a bit about the Amish say "the Amish", not "Amish people"!
Tobitobiify so
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So what? He looked up an older website about it perhaps. Your 'facts' don't have any true meaning. You've got the message all wrong. That's much more important. Do you yourself come from the Amish, that you weigh with such outward systems?
I really do believe that Jesus was e.t.
How about Joel Ostend who says Indians and Buddhist believe in God and that homosexuals are going to Heaven?
He is a ecumenical heretic, that teaches false soctrine.
Absolutely no.
Romans 8:5-9
ISAIAH 2:8
Isaiah 29:9-16
Mark 7:6-13
Colossians 2:21-23
Revelations 22:18-19
So...amish are good people?
@@matiasdelgado7011 mark 10:18
@@aaronyoder9995 so, are bad guys?
@@matiasdelgado7011 huh?
No one is Good but God.
Isaiah 64:6
@@aaronyoder9995 but nuns, pastors and priests are consider good guys and girls
They cannot serve 2 Masters . They are under the Law and that says it all . No , they are not Christians !!!!!!!!!!
Simple a answer no
no one believes in jesus more than the devil.
do they believe in the devil?