Georges Seurat - Sunday Afternoon on the Grande Jatte Explained: The Story behind Great Paintings

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  • Опубликовано: 28 июл 2020
  • Georges Seurat, A Sunday Afternoon on the Island of the Grande Jatte. You have probably been looking at this painting incorrectly, watch and find out why? Georges Seurat the French painter of A Sunday Afternoon on Le Grande Jatte was a Pointillist painter who died when only 31 years old. The artist was born in Paris, France in 1859. This video discusses the story behind the creation of the painting from the initial sketches and preliminary oil paintings, to Seurat's imaginative use of geometry. It explains what Pointillism or Divisionism as Seurat called it, actually is. It took Georges Seurat 2 years to paint the picture completing the painting in 1886. It was exhibited first at the Maison Doree and then at the Salon des Independents later in 1886. The painting was sold to Frederic Clay Bartlett for $20,000 in the 1920's and donated to the Art Institute of Chicago where it remains today.
    The Grande Jatte is actually a small island in the middle of the river Seine to the west of Paris as it was in 1886. The figures look very static and the couple on the right of the painting seem too big, but this is all part of Georges Seurat's plan. The geometry of the painting was very carefully worked out. The end of the video reveals the painting, A Sunday Afternoon on the Island of the Grande Jatte's, great secret. You'll never look at the painting in quite the same way again.
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Комментарии • 238

  • @ciaobella8963
    @ciaobella8963 3 года назад +34

    I have seen this painting and its print many times over the years, including one of his studies in the Metropolitan Museum of Art in NYC, but I never saw the border, nor did I know that it should be viewed from the right at an angle. Interesting. Thank you!

    • @QueenBee-gx4rp
      @QueenBee-gx4rp 3 года назад +2

      Janice Patricia Same here-most interesting! Now the figures on the right make sense!

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  3 года назад +2

      Really pleased you have enjoyed the video. Seurat is an underrated painter. Cheers

    • @michaellynch2800
      @michaellynch2800 2 года назад

      me have never seen the monkey before, haha monkee

  • @okgoodness1709
    @okgoodness1709 3 года назад +11

    After watching Sunday in the Park with George by Stephen Sondheim, I have learned to appreciate this painting by Seurat even more.

  • @albertgrant1017
    @albertgrant1017 3 года назад +2

    My favorite artist .

  • @tradcatholic
    @tradcatholic 3 года назад +27

    Seurat was never a favorite of mine but loving to learn more about him. I can more appreciate his works now. Thank you for your schooling 🤓

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  3 года назад +3

      My pleasure! Really pleased you enjoyed my video. Cheers

  • @derdani1441
    @derdani1441 3 года назад +20

    Brilliant and concise analysis, kept me interested throughout!

  • @jeanross7430
    @jeanross7430 3 года назад +6

    Thank you for the great insight into the painting.😊

  • @davidwilliams8405
    @davidwilliams8405 4 месяца назад

    I'll never forget the first time I saw this painting at the Chicago Art Institute. I had just finished my first year at the Cleveland Institute of Art, and we had finished freshman art history at the Baroque/Rococo period. I just looked and studied and looked at that painting, I guess giving me a head start at the upcoming sophomore art history next fall. When I first visited the National Gallery in London I had the same feeling, bordering on the obsessive the first time I saw "The Bathers at Asnières!'

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  4 месяца назад +1

      Yes, it is a very impressive work. If you are particularly interested in this period the place to visit is the Musee D'Orsay in Paris, probably one of the most impressive art galleries in the world.

  • @wealthbuilder59
    @wealthbuilder59 3 года назад +7

    Perfectly concise .
    Thanks for explaining all of the nuances.

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  3 года назад

      Really pleased you enjoyed it. Cheers

    • @wealthbuilder59
      @wealthbuilder59 3 года назад +1

      Artist in School can’t remember where I had seen his work but I was fascinated by all of the dots of color and precisely the perspective of it when viewing . Really enjoy your series of these videos as Iam in th return to painting myself now that the virus pandemic has taken hold of our lives.
      Cheers

  • @lavolka
    @lavolka 3 года назад +5

    I can't get enough of your videos! Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge with us.

  • @tonycrawford7742
    @tonycrawford7742 Год назад +1

    you have opened my mind. thank you.

  • @sergioeisen7868
    @sergioeisen7868 3 года назад +1

    Clear ,dinamic and didactict .Excelent work ,it stimulate enjoy art and apreciation .Thank you from Argentina

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  3 года назад +2

      Really pleased you enjoyed my video, cheers from England

  • @5t4n5
    @5t4n5 Год назад

    Thanks for this. I love Seurat, especially his noir stuff, it's what got me into art.

  • @joandugan2083
    @joandugan2083 3 года назад +2

    thank you for the analysis of this painting. I will look at it differently from now on.

  • @timdanyo898
    @timdanyo898 Год назад

    The perspective shift is incredible. I never knew that!

  • @chewie1644
    @chewie1644 3 года назад +2

    This was excellent, I’ve viewed this painting 50 times in person and now I can’t wait to see it again!!

  • @abenojarjeceliev.7714
    @abenojarjeceliev.7714 2 года назад

    my teacher in arts appreciation already discussed about this painting,and after watching your video I've learned more deeper meaning about this painting. thank you sir!😊

  • @davidwilliams8405
    @davidwilliams8405 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for the heads up, definitely on my Art Bucket List!

  • @brianivory405
    @brianivory405 3 года назад +2

    Your work is genius. You love ART and it shows.

  • @MichelleRichee
    @MichelleRichee 3 года назад +4

    This was absolutely marvelous, particularly the surprise ending!! Thank you so much for sharing.

  • @photo7839
    @photo7839 2 года назад

    Great work to you.... I took Art History in college.. I nearly lost it.. thanks for being a great and precise to the point educator. I wish I had you in college.

  • @shirleykathan-sayess5764
    @shirleykathan-sayess5764 2 года назад +1

    Fascinating! I had no idea about this being painted to be seen at an angle. Thank you!
    ❤️ Shirley

  • @teresagoncalves4077
    @teresagoncalves4077 3 года назад +1

    Gracias , cambió mi forma de ver y apreciar esta hermosa pintura que siempre me ha cautivado

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  3 года назад +1

      De nada, me alegro de que hayas disfrutado el video.

  • @JimsCorner
    @JimsCorner 3 года назад

    One of my favorite paintings of all time. Excellent documentary and analysis. Much appreciated.

  • @carolcrane6893
    @carolcrane6893 3 года назад

    Love your style of story telling. Always learn something new about my favorite artists. Thanks.

  • @MarxMark
    @MarxMark 2 года назад

    Recently visited AIC and saw the painting but wish I would have watched this first. Great video! Learned a lot! Thank you.

  • @nicolelazotravel
    @nicolelazotravel Месяц назад

    Great breakdown. Thank you.

  • @MiiPaintings
    @MiiPaintings 3 года назад +2

    I honestly loooove all of your videos. Thank you for doing such an amazing job in making these videos. You are amazing teacher

  • @michellet204
    @michellet204 3 года назад +3

    Thanks Paul I enjoyed learning about this fascinating painting even deeper!!!

  • @rachelaugusto5860
    @rachelaugusto5860 3 года назад +1

    Beautifully researched and presented! Congrats!

  • @cara9592
    @cara9592 3 года назад

    I really appreciate this series, I hope you continue this! I grew up in Illinois and remember this painting at the Art Institute downtown. I cannot wait to view it again after watching this. Thank you

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  3 года назад

      I will continue, there will be another video soon

  • @traceycrossman1295
    @traceycrossman1295 3 года назад +2

    A refreshing insight into this wonderful painting. Thank you.

  • @pmo8672
    @pmo8672 3 года назад

    Very informative, interesting and entertaining - I always learn something new with your videos. Thank you very much!

  • @carla3410
    @carla3410 3 года назад +1

    Thanks Paul. Very interesting video.

  • @monicaalexandrova927
    @monicaalexandrova927 Год назад

    I like the painting because I find it very realistic. I myself enjoy being outside, among people, enjoying e scenic view. I really don't know why exactly do I like this painting so much, but it is just calming for the eye. Maybe because of the fainted colours it seems so tranquil.

  • @seescafedeu
    @seescafedeu 3 года назад +1

    Uau! Nice to learn so many things in a small video. Thanks a lot.

  • @danieladeutsch1708
    @danieladeutsch1708 3 года назад +1

    Sir, you are brilliant! Thanks to your channel (and I am writing notes from all of your videos) I have started to see art with a diffrenet view (better said: views). Thank you so much for your excellent knowledge and for sharing it with us.

  • @alisturkericmacnanty159
    @alisturkericmacnanty159 2 года назад

    WOW! FACINATING!

  • @joesmith-gc7wq
    @joesmith-gc7wq 3 года назад

    Absolutely Wonderful. I just love all the detail. I had the opportunity to work at the Huntington Library in San Marino, California. They have Pinkie and Blue boy. Best time of my life. Thanks for all the detailed information Im glued to my chair.

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  3 года назад

      That's brilliant, really pleased you enjoyed the video. Cheers from England

  • @zsuzsablom6256
    @zsuzsablom6256 Год назад

    Brilliant presentation!

  • @VictorCharlesEvans
    @VictorCharlesEvans 3 года назад +1

    Well done Paul another brilliant video!

  • @AnotherVoice-jp1kj
    @AnotherVoice-jp1kj Год назад +1

    Thank you for this, like others, I didn't know about viewing this painting from the side. Seurat was amazing, it is truly tragic that he died so young. Perhaps my most favourite painting, by any artist, is Une Baignade Asnières. It would be great if you could do a video about this.

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  Год назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed the video, I'll have a think about your suggestion.

  • @margaritadvorsky4142
    @margaritadvorsky4142 2 года назад

    you're an inspiration Paul, thank you so much for this video!

  • @jasmin0930
    @jasmin0930 3 года назад

    Wonderful video and so interesting how much thought went into it. Thank you for focusing on a painting I enjoy very much and now know so much more about thanks to you 🙏🏼❤️😁

  • @mariamaragonesjust2150
    @mariamaragonesjust2150 3 года назад

    Me encanto !!lo volvere a ver,muchas gracias !!😍

  • @movietheatremusic
    @movietheatremusic 3 года назад

    Thank you so much for the wonderful and detailed explanation! I enjoy very much this way of teaching! Thank you for that :)

  • @enjoyeverythingskydremer3153
    @enjoyeverythingskydremer3153 3 года назад

    Really fantastic sir.... please give us more and more classes through the video.🙏🙏🙏

  • @nicholasgilbert-student5287
    @nicholasgilbert-student5287 3 года назад

    Really good analysis and the insight into the painting was quite fascinating.

  • @francoiselhopiteau7239
    @francoiselhopiteau7239 2 месяца назад

    Instructif, merci

  • @andrewfrost8866
    @andrewfrost8866 3 года назад

    Absolutely fascinating!

  • @shuvechhabose2892
    @shuvechhabose2892 3 года назад +1

    So Informative and interesting video. Thanks for sharing it

  • @enjoyeverythingskydremer3153
    @enjoyeverythingskydremer3153 3 года назад

    I m an artist sir , and I never go abroad from India but I see many Western paintings. Because wold largest museum and largest galleries are in my hand. But I know one day I'll go abroad from my country. So sir ur videos are more useful for me. Thank you🙏🙏🙏.

  • @timothyhopkins6960
    @timothyhopkins6960 3 года назад

    Fascinating, thank you for bringing it to me.

  • @yonathanasefaw9001
    @yonathanasefaw9001 3 года назад

    Thanks for uploading this, pretty interesting, I am learning art history so I want to learn as much as I can a about art.

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  3 года назад

      Glad you enjoyed it!. Check out my channel ruclips.net/user/artistinschoolcouk Cheers

  • @sakeenaali4079
    @sakeenaali4079 3 года назад

    Such great info. Thank you for telling us.

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  3 года назад +1

      My pleasure, it's wonderful to know that my videos are appreciated. Cheers

  • @captainawsomeist
    @captainawsomeist 2 года назад

    This is a great video, thank you for the lesson!

  • @MaoRuiqi
    @MaoRuiqi 2 года назад

    OMG! you are fantastic!

  • @capri2673
    @capri2673 2 года назад

    This was really interesting. Thank you.

  • @jamesp.tenney3874
    @jamesp.tenney3874 3 года назад

    The perspective from the side reminds me of holbein’s ambassadors and its skull in the foreground. Enjoyable way to begin each day.

  • @velocitygirl8551
    @velocitygirl8551 2 года назад

    Thank you so much!!

  • @abhiramtilak2389
    @abhiramtilak2389 3 года назад

    You have thrown light upon a new perspective... awesome video... thanks for increasing our knowledge... with best regards - Abhiram Tilak here from Pune... India ...

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  3 года назад

      Thank you for your kind comments. Cheers from England

  • @elizabethhestevold1340
    @elizabethhestevold1340 3 года назад

    One off the most underrated Artist, likely the main force behind Impressionist. His leaning toward color effect on color alignments, how one color visual effect another. Mainly eliminating, under coat off shades prior . Color mix , a prelude to Virtual digtialize color pigment algorithms. Way ahead off his time. Yellow is even digital a problem. Which can be done with by a tiny dab of Red. 👀❤️🦅🗽🤗🇩🇰🇺🇸🎨🖌️

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  3 года назад

      Yes, Seurat was a Divisionist, not an Impressionist, in the sense he tended to work in his studio, not outside, en plein air.

  • @brogirlia7233
    @brogirlia7233 2 года назад

    Thank you for this video

  • @summerscripture
    @summerscripture 2 года назад

    Amazing!

  • @edepillim
    @edepillim 2 года назад

    Excellent talk.

  • @pinkcloud3126
    @pinkcloud3126 2 года назад

    I'm so happy you've changed your intro from 'young artists and amateur artists' to 'everybody'! Mainly because I wasn't part of that first target group!

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  2 года назад +1

      Yes, the target audience is more adult that it was before. Cheers

  • @jasonmelvin9102
    @jasonmelvin9102 2 года назад

    Just visited this weekend, wish i would've watched this video beforehand

  • @lincasey248
    @lincasey248 3 года назад

    This was awesome! Ty!!

  • @fitto3000
    @fitto3000 3 года назад

    thanks for sharing us this nice video

  • @ilovevloging100
    @ilovevloging100 3 года назад

    What a great video 💖

  • @neuzasantiago
    @neuzasantiago Год назад

    Thanks for this video

  • @user-hn3uw9pt1e
    @user-hn3uw9pt1e 3 года назад

    😽Thank you so much! It was useful story, indeed!

  • @billmclaren4373
    @billmclaren4373 Год назад

    Very good and informative...

  • @a_j_pessa
    @a_j_pessa 3 года назад

    Good video. Thank you

  • @prathapmv2777
    @prathapmv2777 2 года назад

    Nice and l enjoyed this story 👍

  • @juwu5095
    @juwu5095 3 года назад +1

    You are a great story teller! I really enjoy all the wonderful videos. Thank you. How about make one about YOU -Paul Priestley?
    Also, do you sell your work online?
    Julie

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  3 года назад +1

      Not sure a video about me would be that interesting. No, I don't sell work online. Cheers Paul

  • @amah.vanniarachchy4334
    @amah.vanniarachchy4334 Год назад

    Brilliant!!!

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  Год назад

      Cheers

    • @amah.vanniarachchy4334
      @amah.vanniarachchy4334 Год назад

      @@ArtHistorySchool your explanation about this painting was brilliant and I shared it with my students here. Never heard any art teacher or art critic explaining this painting like that.
      I also would love to write an article about your explanation about this painting to the local newspaper, as a feature article, quoting you and the channel. Would it be ok? It would be great if it is ok.

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  Год назад +1

      @@amah.vanniarachchy4334 Hi Ama, That would be wonderful, perhaps when the article is published you could send me a link? Many thanks, Paul

    • @amah.vanniarachchy4334
      @amah.vanniarachchy4334 Год назад

      Thank you very much. Yes, I will definitely send you the link once it is published.

  • @ginacrusco234
    @ginacrusco234 Год назад

    Thanks for this interesting analysis. Was there an intended setting for the painting which would have placed it at the 45 degree angle?

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  Год назад +2

      Not that I know of. He was fascinated also by science, geometry and chemistry so he may have just designed like that.

  • @hrivera4201
    @hrivera4201 10 месяцев назад

    A genius how he separate the blue of the river and the green of the grass with those figures with orange tones at the river shore. Thanks for the video.

  • @patriciaezzell7484
    @patriciaezzell7484 3 года назад +1

    How do you know about the purpose of the skewed perspective? Is there an artist journal somewhere we can read? I am interested in how he arrived at the bizarre challenges he has set for himself. Why was this painting intended to be viewed from such an angle?

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  3 года назад

      He is not the first artist to make use of perspective on a flat surface. Hans Holbein the Younger painted The Ambassadors in 1533 using exactly the same idea. The skull in the painting can only be seen correctly fro an acute angle. It is all about perception. Why do we paint pictures of roads getting narrower as they disappear into the distance when we know the does not do that? Should we paint what we see or what we know? Interesting.

  • @john2759
    @john2759 3 года назад

    Thanks 🙏 your Channel is well appreciate

  • @D9david
    @D9david Год назад

    Thanks!

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  Год назад

      Thank you for your support on both my channels, it is very much appreciated. Kind regards Paul

  • @Diaana888
    @Diaana888 3 года назад

    Nice one

  • @Lance2094
    @Lance2094 3 года назад

    Superb! Two of my grandchildren won’t in in school first quarter because of Covid here in Colorado. How might she use your program as learning tools ? Kids are 11 and nine.
    Thank you for your programs!

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  3 года назад +1

      Perhaps they could watch the video and see if they could create a painting just using primary colours. Using the pointillist technique of dots they could create all the other colours they need. It will take patience and they will learn about how the eye perceives colour.

  • @anacletwilliams8315
    @anacletwilliams8315 Год назад

    This afternoon I went for a walk on the island of the Grande Jatte. It was a pity I did not see any painter whatsoever. And the island looks very different today from Seurat's painting.

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  Год назад

      The painting was painted near 150 years ago, so not surprising I suppose

    • @anacletwilliams8315
      @anacletwilliams8315 Год назад

      @@ArtHistorySchool I wasn't exactly expecting to meet Seurat in person. But still, it is a pity I did not see any painters. Don't you think so?

  • @claudiascott6654
    @claudiascott6654 3 года назад

    This is my very favorite 'fun' painting and I enjoyed your remarks. Love your series!

  • @jppagetoo
    @jppagetoo 3 года назад +1

    A favorite of mine. I have seen the final version in Chicago. I have seen one of the study versions the Met in New York City. I am impressed by how he used olive and purple to make browns. The points blend to make colors that don't really exist. And the paintings are huge! So much work for such small dots. The prespective thing... mind completely blown... that is something I never knew despite seeing the sketches and the final version in person.
    Can you do something Grant Wood? His paintings in Chicago are amazing. He was much more then just "American Gothic" (iconic as that is)

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  3 года назад +1

      You must be a mind reader. I am working on Grant Wood's American Gothic at the moment. Should be finished in a couple of weeks or so. Cheers

    • @jppagetoo
      @jppagetoo 3 года назад +1

      @@ArtHistorySchool Oh awesome! I grew uplooking at his Midnight Ride of Paul
      Revere but never knew it was his painting until 10 years ago. Woods paintings are some of my favorite modern works.

    • @patriciaezzell7484
      @patriciaezzell7484 3 года назад +1

      How do we know any of the artist's intentions?

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  3 года назад +2

      @@patriciaezzell7484 Because of what they write down, preliminary ideas, and notes put down in sketchbooks, conversations noted at the time. Just like today artist's, like everyone else, spoke to friends, rivals, colleagues, family etc and much survives today. Van Gogh wrote over 1000 letters to his brother Theo over a ten year period, detailing almost every day and painting he produced during the last 10 years of his life. Those letters survive and can be viewed in the Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam. He's not the only one.

  • @dodoxan4972
    @dodoxan4972 2 года назад

    I'd love to hear something about "Modersohn Becker" in the style of your videos. I'm a huge fan of her art, but there is not enough I can find out about her.

  • @akshayanandyala4752
    @akshayanandyala4752 3 года назад

    How did you use the georges seurat images and paintings images without copyright? Sir

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  3 года назад +1

      Paintings can come under what is termed 'fair use' for education, research etc. Also, whilst some galleries try to claim exclusive copyright on their paintings, it appears some years ago they lost an important legal case on this point. I can't remember the detail, but it was along the lines that if a gallery puts their paintings into the public domain, in the sense that they they allow the public to see them and some one takes a photo, they can't claim copyright of the photo. However, if that photo was then sold for profit that could cause copyright issues. It is also the fact that most art works move into the public domain 50 or in some cases 70 years after the artist's death. It can be a grey area so it is best to check.

    • @akshayanandyala4752
      @akshayanandyala4752 3 года назад

      Thank you Sir.

  • @Artinsane
    @Artinsane 3 года назад

    Hi sir your video is amezing

  • @phyllischan3696
    @phyllischan3696 3 года назад

    thanks for the video. but i’m not very understand that why should we view from the right side at an angle of 45 degree. that will make the couple on the right side even bigger when we are standing at the right.

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  3 года назад

      Have you tried looking at the painting from an angle? I think you will see all the figures work better in perspective with each other.

  • @fbpliegorrivero8869
    @fbpliegorrivero8869 2 года назад

    Seurat, Van Gogh, Gaugin, the same with Cézanne, they were so shockingly different to contemporary accepted art. One can only imagine the enormous social pressure on them and their work.

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  2 года назад

      I think they could handle the pressure, but it is hard going against the mainstream.

  • @carolelerman9686
    @carolelerman9686 3 года назад

    More please sir.

  • @EditEmpireIta
    @EditEmpireIta 3 года назад

    Great video! Godo

  • @southsidepaddy
    @southsidepaddy 3 года назад +1

    Paul, can you make 1 on my hero Toulouse-Lautrec 👍🏼

  • @stennsonn
    @stennsonn 2 года назад

    Is that a radio or a TV on the far right infront on the 3 women sitting on the ground? It looks like it but the radio wasn't invented until after this was painted....

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  2 года назад

      If, as you know, radio and television were 20th century inventions, they can't appear in a 19th century painting!

    • @stennsonn
      @stennsonn 2 года назад

      @@ArtHistorySchool So give me your best guess at what that wooden box is?

  • @echoed61
    @echoed61 Год назад

    Nice. Are you saying he used a subtle form of anamorphosis?

    • @ArtHistorySchool
      @ArtHistorySchool  Год назад

      Not quite so pronounced as that, more a subtle play with perspective.

  • @tessellatiaartilery8197
    @tessellatiaartilery8197 Год назад

    Outstanding video explanation. Thank you very much for these insights, never knew the half about the painting and the perspective clincher at the end, amazing!

  • @kellywantuch6056
    @kellywantuch6056 2 года назад

    Are you aware that when the Bartlett family tried to donate it to the Art Institute of Chicago, they refused it at first? Many painting were donated by this family. I know extended family who told me this story.

  • @annaelizabeth2923
    @annaelizabeth2923 3 года назад

    ahead of his time as it were

  • @_GandalfTheGrey_
    @_GandalfTheGrey_ 2 месяца назад

    If the figures on the right look too large, then standing 45 degrees to the right would make them seem even bigger…one should stand 45 degrees to the left no?