You Are Doing Drops ALL WRONG:
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- Опубликовано: 18 июл 2021
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How to do drops? This is one of the most commonly asked questions and there are A TON of answers! There's also TONS of fail videos on this very topic. Hitting drops on a mountain bike has caused many an injury and the majority of it has to do with being in the wrong position. I bring Rob in to discuss the technique we use. Let us know your thoughts.
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This is a super popular spot here in Bentonville. As a matter of fact, it was where we used to hold our clinics. Even thought it was a damn near perfect spot, we had to move. Why you ask? Well, it was because the amount of people crashing off these drops completely disrupted our events. I've seen it all here: Manual off, hop off, carry way too much speed off. People do all sorts of crazy things here and quite a few have crashed. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if some of you reading this have crashed in this very spot. All you have to do is post up here, or any spot similar to this, and watch the carnage ensue. What's the cause? A few things I think, but the main culprit is getting in the back seat as they come off the drop.
Just think of the physics at play here, and gravity of course. Simply minimize all of the factors in this equation and you'll have success. That being said, I'm ok stating that fun does not play into this. I don't find drops to be particularly fun and I'm not a "send it" type of guy.
At the end of the day, DO WHATEVER THE HECK YOU WANT! I'd just love it if you didn't crash ;)
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Thanks for the efforts, for free lessons! Two legitimate coaches .
Great relationship and healthy discussions. Mtb community should be helping one another to progress🤙
Video should start at 7:35
Their method starts at 12:17
First bit is mostly disclaimers to be careful and safe and use your judgement because places you ride may be different.
Hey Drew.
Thanks for continuing the conversation on drops.
What I'm learning is drops are a continuum and it's not something most people can just learn by spending a couple minutes watching a video. It something requires thought and practice and reflection and someone to tell what you're actually doing.
And you words are helping me get there.
Well said!!
also one thing very helpful on drops and jumps is to have a tow from someone that does that feature good ....its helped me on some big jumps that i didn't think i could do but did on first tow in i got from kid who shreds...
I learn more on how to coach from these. Real important the kids I coach come back safe and I owe a lot to the TRS how tos! Rob’s “you got to see the fear in their eyes” is exactly my approach! Keep em coming!
He's good! I love that you get some coaching take aways from the vids!
@therobdrew ghost riding a $5000 bike has to be my favorite part of this video. Oh, and Rich trying to hold back his laughter. Great instruction, per usual. Love having Rob in the mix.
Your prejudiced buddy.
Rob adds so much to these videos. Definitely do more Rob!
I think you should or could address more of how the technique changes based on speed. You said go the speed the drop requires but that's not often the circumstance ppl are in.
Gonna get him in there as much as possible!
We are working on a video that addresses different speeds and drops to flat
Tnx guys I saw all three videos now about drops and they really taught me the basics to do drops and also gave me the confidence to ride bigger drops without putting myself into danger more than needed. I think you saved me from braking a collar bone. I was always off with my timing doing that manual thing. You learned me how "easy" it can be to ride drops. I think the last 2 videos were made to set things straight, for me it was immediately clear in the first video that firing down was not applicable to all drops, you explicitly said so.
Keep up the good work.
Thanks Joris! I love hearing how the videos have helped. It’s a tough topic with all of the information AND all of the unique circumstances that come up on trail. Keep it up and have fun out there!
I just took Rich's 2-day class, and it was taught with the same clarity, passion and humor shown in this video. I'm itching to go ride my bike and implement what I've learned from Rich (and in this video, Rob).
I’ve seen other videos on doing drops and to me yours makes the most sense. 56-year-old guy just trying to live through the features, have fun and to keep improving.
Thanks for another great video! Love to see Rob on the spot! I would like to see your insights on drop to a flat.
Coming soon Tiago!
You know why this was probably one of your best instructional videos? Because you gave equal time to explaining the WHY of your instructions, and how it effects the outcome as much as the HOW of the technique. This was probably motivated by you feeling that you had to defend the technique with the explanation of the why but the result is a fantastically clear, logical and consumable video. Mate, you are at your best when you feel you're on your backfoot defending and therefore you leave no point uncovered. Maybe something to consider for future vids or to re-shoot other technique vids. Looking forward to being in one of your San Diego clinics. Cheers!
Love it! Thanks guys. Attending a Ride Series clinic is on my bucket list!!
It DOES make perfect sense!! I've seen a lot of different DROP videos and this one is by far the best! Physics and gravity, context, speed.. thanks for sharing your expertise and knowledge!!!! I really appreciate it!!
Thanks for all the information you're putting out there and Rob is definitely a great addition to your commentaries keep up the good work!!
You are very welcome Glen! Rob adds a ton, hoping to have aboard even more moving forward.
The information is awesome. Love that you added Rob but man you guys make me seem animated. Lol. It’s literally a race to see “who’s the driest dudes on RUclips.”
Thats funny right there. Its like a good English Comedy sketch. Ala Monty Python.😁
I’m a beginner in mtb and watched many videos on how tos! Saw and watched your vid about this drops topic, at first I was a bit worried that I might hurt myself. So I tried it in small drops for many times just to get into the proper form and landing. After I get used to it I was able to hit bigger steeper drops. Thank you for sharing this. A huge help for me. Boosted my confidence and conquered my fears. Btw I’m using HT too. Can’t wait to get a full sus in the future. :)
I love to hear this Raymund! Keep it up and let me know when you get that full sus!
stop watching how tos and go ride the damn bike.!!!!!!! YT great for advice but you cant shortcut progression by watching hours of youtube. got a mate talks a good game cant ride for shit but seen 1000s youtube videos.
@@8iamretarded8 Wait, he's watched 1000's of YT videos???? Well damnit, he's an expert... at watching YT vids!
@@richdrewtherideseries hes expertly tried talking me through double-black diamond (didnt need the advice tbh) root-chutes in uk. hes good for something, tho he cant ride even the chicken-line detour
You guys are awesome thank you. Just got my first full suspension and hoping to start doing drops when winter leaves now. Going to use your techniques seem super simple and straightforward. Lol just have to execute it.
Bro, my brother and I just applied the techniques you implemented, feels so much better and natural...we've been doin it all wrong after all this time...TY Drew bros!!!
HECK YEAH!! Love to hear this 👊🏻
bollocks.
Excellent vid Drew! Let me add a comment that may not have been brought up. No matter what the content is about, your banter/ conversation/ discussion with your bro helped add some depth to understanding the process. So rather than just a one-sided explanation, I enjoyed Rob's feedback and additional comments as the "lesson" progressed. I hope that makes sense... keep up the awesome work!
I enjoyed the video and it’s really disheartening to see some of the comments. Your videos have helped me, Thank you!!
I'm just here for the Red shoes :) Good content as always you two.
Love your videos. I started MTBing in my 40s. I never understood hanging over the saddle on a drop... no weight on the front. Then I saw your video on drop offs and it made perfect sense to me and I've been using your method successfully ever since. Many thanks from Ireland ..
It looks like you're going back as the bike pivots as you extend your arms. You aren't moving your body back as much as your arms extend down and slightly forward. This technique works well because you don't focus on moving back, your arms make the movement. I am with you, I'm so tired of hearing people say get back on the bike. Getting back is a reaction not an input.
“Getting back is a reaction, not an input.” This is GOLD and I’m going to hijack it…with credit going to you of course 😉
@@richdrewtherideseries it's all yours! You taught me to do my first 5 foot drop, so thank you!
I also feel like people can see the technique from two perspectives. You can see it coming from the perspective of the hips coming back/bike going forward. What I like about Rich's perspective is, it's focused on timing the creation of space in the arms to prepare for the landing. Creating space just happens to also move your center of gravity backward relative to the bikes. I feel like I'd rather be focused on my first contact rather than where my hips are relative to the bike.
you are SERIOUSLY over analysing. rather than working on you word-per-minute typing skills try riding a bicycle instead.
Nice video guys. Obviously each drop man made or not is unique. Each drop needs to be analyzed accordingly. In this vid you focused on upper body and hips. Dont forget to mention the position of the forward and rear feet. What should you be doing with the pedals to secure your landing. I can imagine Too many fails happen with bad foot position. Total body experience 😂. Thanks for the coaching.
Still loving your videos Rich, this one really helps me. Pay no attention to the haters.
Really good, thanks. Rob is a great addition & very articulate w/ his input.
To me drops have always been about commitment. Yes, you do need to bring skill to the table, absolutely but if you are not able to commit you could hurt yourself.
I appreciate you guys coming up with yet another video on the topic, I have watched all of them and learn something from every single one. For everyone else watching, please remember start small and progress into bigger drops. Your mind has to be ready and your body has to be able. Then you can send it 🤙
#fullcommitmentmindandbody
The mind is what truly holds you back! Positive thinking will pull you through!
Great video - love the dynamic of the brothers (both Rob and Rich bring different perspectives), keep them coming!
Heck yeah, great to hear! I'm the more dynamic one thought, right???
@@richdrewtherideseries PantherRS5 says hello (hope you enjoyed those lattes) and says we’re coming to see you in September/October, hope we can still get a squeege hydration pack along with the tour of Bentonville’s finest!
I never understood drops until I saw your original drop video I thought it was clear and gave precise instructions on what to do when. These video are for people who want to learn and gain confidence not for people who already have confidence. I really like having the 2 of you it creates a cool dynamic. I would love to see some more coaching videos where you teach average Joe a new skill. About the negative comments look at it this way, if you get negative comments that means people are watching, so that's a good thing - right!
I love it when we are able to teach an “average joe or Jane” a new skill. We’re going to try to do that more.
I LOVE the negative comments, they’re comedy gold!!
Again, these are former racers that are instructors. They deal with making "foundational" skill more adaptable for beginner to intermediate riders, pushing progression safely, daily. The BMX / Trials rider that can bounce on their rear tire for 5 minutes, or the self proclaimed Sendy McSender semi-pro, trying to turn doubles into triples, might elect to use a different technique. We appreciate that you are looking out for most riders, so that they can do their best.
they literally overcomplicate a basic skill. its a SKILL not a procedure. try teaching someone how to put a golf ball in the hole. watch a video wonder why ball wont go in hole... well, it takes fkn practice.
@@8iamretarded8 me put ball in hole. me ride bike off drop
@@richdrewtherideseries lol pretty much my mate approach he had 2 shoulder surgery already but he watch your video 1000times
Lovely explanation!
I'm just learning to do drops and jumps, so before I try a feature myself, I launch my bike to show me the way :-)
Smart man!
Lol, never thought of that 👍
very detailed!, removing my fear to try is the most impt to give it a go! this video helped a lot thank you!
Hey Ronnel! Removing the fear, or at least minimizing it, is a difficult thing.
Definitely more videos with Rob. Just got to Bentonville with my kids for the first time 2 weeks ago, and cannot wait to go back. Need to get your series up here to MO.
We’re doing what we can to keep him around 😉👊🏻
Watched the video and did my first drop 3ft very confidently. This advice is solid
Same old story. Big Brother throws little brother's bike off a cliff and says "It'll be alright, glad it's not my bike!"
Haha!! That's great! But...I don't think doing it with the eBike would have been the smart option, in Rob's defense. :-)
@@willbros1499 Next chance I will try it with the E bike. 👍
Im late , LOL so true !
Very helpful video at last! All the rest of the riders that post videos about jumping leave it a bit confusing and you’ve made it all clear. Thank you so much!!
You guys are better than most. Your content is informative and telling. Keep it up
Don’t leave Rob. 😁 love the chemistry between you too. More videos with Rob please. 😊
what?? they are both really fkn annoying. its the folks on $8000 bikes that watch these crappy videos.
@@8iamretarded8 WHOA!!!! Don't let everyone in our secret ;)
@@richdrewtherideseries sorry not both annoying but my point about this all gear no idea - and these idiots look down on me if im riding hardtail (cost 4000 uk sterling btw) or 120mm trail fs.
@@8iamretarded8 Tell is how you really feel.
I agree Adrian, just keep it between us 😉. I guess we’re appealing because we both have garages full of $8,000 bikes. Good thing we didn’t have to pay for them 🤷🏻♂️
Probably one of the best videos on “how to” . Not like the rest were bad but it’s great how u guys mentioned on the start of the video the technique is same but each jump for viewers out here would face diff scenarios. 👍🏻
Glad you liked it Ernest!
Before the previous video I was doing decent drops with the "lean back/manual technique" and always gets the drop. One time I did a drop where the landing is steeper and a bit off camber, landed rear heavy and my rear just washed out under me and crashed. I get back to the how to drop vid of rich and really delved into the technique. Practiced it on smaller drops and felt confident. Went back to were I crashed a month later and nailed the drop. Never felt more confident doing drops before. This vid is a nice addition to the previous one.
BOOM! That’s what I’m talking about 👊🏻
I love your videos. I will admit being skeptical of your technics on drops, however, I have tried it on a 2-3 foot flat dropped and it actually works. Like you guys mentioned the key is having the right speed for that particular drop. I used to do a English bunny hop on a drop that resulted OTB due to the handle bars facing the wrong direction when I landed while my kids watching, it was embarrassing. What you guys emphasizing to have the proper speed on a drop does work, just need to trust the physics. Some drops are different in how you performed the techniques on rough vs smooth terrains based on my experienced. On a rougher terrain drop, for example, I tend to do a small hop to prevent the back wheel getting hang up resulted on a better landing. Thanks for all how to’s videos, keep it coming! I am a fan of your tutorial videos and possibly the same age in the upper forties to where the body does not recover the way it used too. Thanks a lot for all the hard work.
Thanks for the feedback!! The plan is to keep cranking the vids out
Excellent video RD^2! I'm trying this approach as, after your detailed explanation, it makes perfect sense to me.
Thanks Carlos!
I like this follow through video! Keep it up Rich and Rob!
Boys, you have a lot of good information in here that is bogged down by tonnes of words of caution because a bunch of a-holes are picking your videos apart. Those people are never going to go away. Ignore them. A 23 minute video had 5min of excellent information hiding in it.
Don't let those losers ruin your videos boys. Keep pumping out the great and helpful information. Don't bog it down trying to disarm the critics.
Great point!
Probably the safest way to do drops that I’ve seen. Always play these steps in my head as I continue to progress.
Heck yeah Mario!
Nice work, Drew Bros.! I’ll be trying this method out at that skills park later this summer!
Heck yeah! Let me know how it goes
I enjoyed your instructional video and agree with it completely! There is however one issue when you are NOT riding in a bike park (with perfect drops) and you don't have a chance to check out every feature before you ride it (Squamish has so many unsanctioned trails that friends love to share!) and unfortunately, you end up going a little too slow over small drops. It has been my experience that a little preloading will always ensure that both wheels will land on the ground, usually at the same time (body position dependent, of course) allowing one to keep your speed and not get tossed. Keep up the great work guys!
thanks solaris! I doubt there are many people watching these videos that ride in Squamish ;)
Rob is a beast. Love the video.
Finally! After 1000 videos, I found 1 that makes sense to me! Figure out the speed, let the bike drop naturally and fixed the landing! Can’t wait to try this, thank you fellas!
I like you Guys!! Been a few years since i rode but watching you guys' relearning skills is great. Im not a young man any more, but seeing ya'll give me confidence !! Keep it up
I like how Rob can't help himself and butts in before you finish your sentence. Haha. Great stuff man, definitely going to apply this when I get the opportunity to.
Can't get salty with these dudes on the comment section, you provide quality stuff man!
Welcome to my life Cris 🤷🏻♂️. At least he normally has great input.
Oh man! As a 35 year old beginner taking "the safest" approach is confidence inspiring. Thank you very much!!! I am going to apply this.
As a 35 year old beginner, one of the most relatable comments I've read 😂
Must be nice to be so young when you start MTBing with the gear we have now. I was that age when I started. That was before any bikes had suspension. The bikes back then were essentially heavy road bikes with fatter tires. I've had to unlearn a lot of the old techniques. Compared to you, I started in a deep hole that I have had to work out of. 35! You are but a puppy. Take advantage of your youth.
I think this fixes the issues people have been having with the other 2 drop vids, the form makes sense from the perspective of minimizing the size and impact of the drop.
I like the way you present your knowledge. I have learned much from your videos. I hope you follow this one up with one or more that describe the nuances of different drop scenarios.
Where I ride, there are no artificial drops. None of the drops have a long, flat, smooth runway approach. Most landings are flat-ish. Many drops are down-sloped take-offs to flat landings. The drops here commonly have some reason to need more horizontal flight distance than is achievable with a safe approach speed.
There are a million video tutorials showing drops off of well-built ladder bridges onto perfectly configured landing and runout zones. A series of videos that breakdown the skills/techniques needed for scenarios listed above would be unique and of great value to many, many MTBers. I would pay to see that series if the Drew Brothers made it.
GREAT IDEA!!
It makes sense to me. your hips may LOOK like they are back on a drop, but with the front of the bike down, you are still over the center of the bike ready to absorb the impact. Thanks, that helps me a ton. I can't manual, and trying to jump the bike didn't work. This is much easier to at least visualize.
Glad this helped Doug. Don’t worry, that manual will come eventually 👊🏻
Around 10:00, you're talking about the "right speed" to approach a drop (and not hop before it). But in certain circumstances, you can't get to that ideal speed you need to just fly off a drop, like there's no run-in, or the drop is just after a turn, or whatever. So, in some cases, hopping at the lip of the drop CAN be useful, especially if you don't have the speed.
no doubt! there's a time and place for sure but if not timed or done perfect, the outcome is "no bueno" hence Rob and Rich's point about different drops and "if there's something in front of the drop"...
@@bryanmyers4970 You must be a genius Bryan!! So crazy to me that it gets lost in translation even though we specifically state it.
I keep telling myself, friends, and students that I'm a genius!! Problem is that these 8th graders can see straight through that claim 😂
I totally appreciate this video guys, I still struggle with popping off vs rolling off. I gotta work on that. Even when I sessioned Drop the Hammer, I still found myself popping off when I look at the footage. I feel like it's a habbit one has to break and trust the "science". Hell if a bike without a rider and send it....great idea.
Folks keep saying the spice or salt or fire is gonna come. Maybe that's me. I'm mixed. Learned a lot from the video. Yay. The provocative title "You Are Doing Drops ALL WRONG" is an agitprop stick in the eye, followed by "don't misunderstand us" or "don't freeze frame this or that - just listen!" C'mon, you can't flame with that title and then expect kid gloves while arguing with your viewers the whole time. That said its a journey and props for the doses of humility in the middle. Keep it up.
Indeed!
when iWhen I saw your first videos this technique made perfect sense to me. i Always do that in drop. it's all about speed!
On some occasions, I involuntarily come to a DROP very slowly, I am forced to do a bunny hop or a manual to be able to reach the edge of the drop. I think this is never a good idea since it is difficult to control the fall and the landing place, you never stay in good speed or control position
You guys are great as always!! Rob's humour is even better than his riding!!
Thank you gentlemen for a very clear explication! Keep sending them! 😃
I think the reason it's so controversial is because most people consider drops they find naturally in a trail, where the take-off and landing surfaces are at similar angles. If you don't lean back you will nose dive.
When you leave the lip and shoot the bike out it gets projected forward a bit as you extend the arms and legs. This looks like the hips are back when in reality the bike is moving down and forward to absorb the landing. This video is awesome and something I will practice on every ride. Thanks!
Hey guys, thank you very much for this video. Perfectly explained and illustrated. I have a question (and please do not think I am trying to be an "internet expert"). Would the "load and pop" variant be OK if you get surprised by a drop and not have the speed? Or what would you do in that case? Obviously I will try to avoid such a scenario at all cost, but I have personally experienced that situation with another rider. Thanks up front and I would love to see more of these!
Hey there! I’d certainly use the load and pop in that situation. We’ve all been in that situation unfortunately and you do what you have to to survive when they arise!
@@richdrewtherideseries thx for the answer. In that case I will practice both!
Good clear advice Rich and Rob!
Again Easy to understand and makes sense. the previous drop videos were the same. Thanks again .
Heck yeah, glad you feel that way. It doesn’t hurt to come at it a few different ways. I hope it resonates with more people.
Ok so I tried your technique today on the exact same place you filmed.
Usually I do a pump and hop technique which is usually sketchy though exhilarating. I tried your technique and I was surprised at the outcome.
Wow how much more stable and *boring* your technique is, but one thing I can say is that small drop has become a nothing burger. It’s almost like rolling off a curb!
Thanks for introducing this style, definitely a new arrow in the quiver!
I’m part of the send it crowd but after trying this I’m hooked. I don’t get back but I do preload and *pop* but I’m going to do drops like this for a while and see how I like it.
I recommended your technique to riders today who looked like they were about to crush collar bones and one lad loved it.
Great contribution!
I enjoy watching these "how to" videos so that I can practice doing the exact opposite.... I can't make your job too easy when my wife and I finally get an instructional ride with you this fall! Thank you for the excellent content, I look forward to meeting you this fall!
Haha, touché Casey 👊🏻
Yes bring Rob back. You guys keep each other (and us) honest
From my experience, you are right. I used to do drop with a trial bike, that is with no speed. In that circumstance, you have to unweight the front wheel in order to land the back wheel first, absorb with the legs and land the front wheel. When I first tried to drop with a mountain bike in a trail,I used the same technique. It worked. But then I saw a tutorial video explaining to push the bike instead of unweithing the front wheel. I tried it, and it works much better. The movement is more natural, faster, more efficient and the timing of the manoeuver is easier.
Its “the words” that got you in trouble last time. The “hey, watch me and do it like this” is (and was) very good. Personally, when learning something physical I have always felt going heavy on “the show” and light on “the tell” was most effective.
Story of my life 🤷🏻♂️😉.
yep. way too much waffle but this is how you get 20,000 views on a fairly pointless and unhelpful video.
great vid. keep rob around!
I’ll see what I can do 😉
Really good information and I like the chemistry of you two together. No need to feel defensive or worried about being salty, many of us get tired of people who post something that's unnecessarily critical when all you are trying to do is help people. I may not always execute your techniques, but I always want to listen and learn.
Wish you could make a version of this video for when there is less of a landing, not exactly drop to flat but we ride a lot of natural terrain with 5-10 foot drops that have less of a steep landing. Would love any advice about ways to soften those landings.
Also, we have one drop that trips me up from time to time, it has a slight uphill face that creates some deceleration just before dropping -- not a lip, but a lead-in that creates deceleration in the last 10 feet and then drops 11 feet to a landing that should be steeper than it is. Your suggestion to get on the ground quickly helps, and I work hard at visualization, but unlike some features we do over and over this one still scares me even though I've done it over 30 times now. Welcome any feedback. MANY THANKS!
Exactly right! There’s too many man made technical features in all of these drop and jump videos. They are not realistic on a real trail. Your example is exactly what I asked earlier.
@@Randy_Johnson ....As stated before, we don't have many drops to flat, or really technical drops. Why? Because in NWA our elevation change in most places is minimal, so most of our trails don't go perpendicular to the natural rock shelves, because that would mean losing elevation so quickly. So the builders tend to build parallel to them, and get more "build for their buck" so to speak. There are some drops that are a little flatter and more demanding from a run up perspective in the surrounding trail systems, but in Bentonville Proper, most all of them do have somewhat of a transition that is forgiving. They may have to venture out a bit to hit some flat drops for a video on that. But...drops to flat suck. Just sayin'.... :-)
Your method for drops has been one I feel comfortable with! I'm still a noob tho only 1 year into this sport. Loving it. Also the physics makes sense to me! Even tho mates keep telling me to do it other ways I'm not changing! Hahaha Keep doing what you guys do!
Heck yeah, way to be a lone Wolf…er, panda 😉. One year in, that’s awesome! So much left for you to learn and experience, enjoy it!
@@richdrewtherideseries hahahaha cheers big man 🤙🤙🤙🤙
Great explanations guys. So basically, the movement and position are exactly the same as when sending in staircases with speed, apart for the return to neutral in anticipation of the landing. Will try to see it more like that in the future, thanks!
Can you do some drops to flat examples in the future? Keep on doing what your doing. Love it.
Hey there! That’s the plan. Working on the locations now
Hinging your body on the pedals and matching the bike angle to your landing
I appreciate the advocation for safe riding since my days of pushing the boundaries are gone
I think I saw rob smile a couple of times. Great job guys!
No you didn't, he never smiles ;)
I agree with everything you guys are saying. One of the things about this (these) videos is the actual drop itself. Most of the videos are all on man made, slope drops. No weird entry. No sketchy gap. Nothing to flat. If the trail you are on has a tight corner where exit is say 3-5mph and a (for example) simple 4' to flat , no gap, drop. How would you handle that? THIS is what is always lacking with these how to videos. Change the drop and the technique changes too.
Exactly!
So how would you tackle something like this, have a similar one on my home trail and I´ve yet to come up with a technique that feels safe. This is a great point btw.
@@andrescifuentes5212 I have followed the Lee McCormack way of handling this kind of drop by “popping” the drop right at the edge of the drop. Unload the bike, compress the suspension and pop up 4-8” right before the drop. That way, your bike will have both tires come off the drop at the same time, so the back tire won’t get hung up. When in the air, adjust the bars to the appropriate angle for the landing.
@@Randy_Johnson ...And the counter to that is, now you're interjected another variable, which in my opinion, is the number one way to get hurt if you're an inexperienced rider on flat pedals. SLIPPING A PEDAL. If you hop slightly more than the bike rebounds, and your feet leave the pedals, and it's a 10' drop....it's going to be a bad day. If you're an experienced rider and you've "popped" or "hopped" thousands of times, then you probably have a feel for the timing and it will be fine, and at times depending on the run up, and the need to "clear" something on the landing, it may be the only viable option.
If you're a fairly new rider, I think hopping or popping is actually one of the worst techniques, because you are introducing another variable to the equation that can have a catastrophic effect.
@@willbros1499 Agreed. Hopping and popping are definitely for the more experienced riders. Inexperienced riders should only be doing small drops. My comments were for the more experienced riders. I was hoping Rich Drew would have an answer for larger drops that have more difficult and slower run-ins and flat landings.
Thanks for the video,. Great job on covering everything that could be used against.
You are very welcome Marshall
Thank you for these videos, the two of you are awesome!!
You are very welcome. To clarify though, I’m awesomer right? 😉
@@richdrewtherideseries Lol… Of course!!
This video and the last one has helped me a lot, but I’m having trouble with staircase/waterfall drops. Specifically, tight turns on staircase/waterfall drops. Do you have any videos to reference for this situation?
+1 Like old Pisgah middle black
Great instructions. One thing I would comment on would be to use slow motion when showing the drops being performed. Same with jumps, bunny hops, and everything else. At regular speed it's hard to see the body positioning when performing the feature/skill.
Please do another video on drops to flat. I need a visual! Thanks guys!
Hey Charles! Already working on it dude! Hope to have something for you soon
no you need to practice lazy. maybe turn off the computer and ride the bike??
@@8iamretarded8 Eazy Adrian, I need more people to watch these vids so I can buy more $5,000 bikes! Wait, I don't actually have to pay for the bikes since I make these videos ;)
@@richdrewtherideseries lol I thumb up btw
You 2 are absolute awesome old war horses. Love it 🤘
OMG...Everybody wants to be an armchair critic! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know everything instructors teach on RUclips is all relative to what you're hitting in your local area. Even from the first drop video you did, I fully got what you were saying and it vastly improved my drops instantly, so thank you so much Rich and crew. I guess not everybody can have common sense though. Keep doing what you do guys...It's great!!!!!!
very helpful thanks cant wait to session it!
Well done, dynamic duo right here. 🤘🏾🤙🏾💪🏾
Thank you!!
Looks so simple. You broke it down well. This is my biggest fear- eating it on the landing. Thanks.
Thank you for the video. I better understand the physics of the movement and riding positions needed. New rider and I'm older too :)
You are very welcome Hans!
Thanks for the video, I'll refocus on my drops in the small bike park we have. Wish I could attend a ride series clinic.
You are very welcome! We would love to have you at an event!
@@richdrewtherideseries I live in the Netherlands so that would be a bit difficult ha ha. Tutorials like this are the next best thing for me
Thanks guys. I have 2 questions: 1. what do you do if you can't get enough speed, and 2. how do you adjust your arms and body if the ramp leading to the drop is downhill, because I feel I am pushing on handlebars too much. Thanks
Bummer! Just checked the website and see you were in Minneapolis a couple days ago? Didn't see it posted anywhere local unfortunately.
Thank you for the very good explanations! Hope, I'll try the 3 step technique in a correct way next time on a small drop.
Right now, I try to find a chicken line ;-)
Based on technique and the "physics" ... there should be the same 3 steps with a heavier bike (e-mtb) too? My concerns are, that there is more weight in the front and so the "bike" itself will send into the drop faster than I want.
What you describe would be against the laws of nature. All else equal, gravity pulls heavier object down at the same velocity that lighter objects fall.
not a thing.... more weight in the front... it's all relative to the geometry.... say if you have a balanced Enduro bike at 160mm... if you chucked 180mm forks and a mullet set of tires.... all the weight will be backward..... if you chucked 140mm forks on and even tires the weight would be on the front...
I'm a rookie in this...still alot to learn...why is it I Flip often when I take drops? Based on what you guys brought up I think I need to consider the position of my body
This helped a newbie like me tremendously! Subscribing for sure
Heck yeah Dakota!
Instant subs. Keep up the good work
Thank you guys for the information 🙏🏻
Hi Rich, Hi Rob, thanks a lot for your videos it really helps a lot. I started mountain biking a year ago when everything with the pandemic changed and I've taking it pretty seriuos, i actually love it. your videos has taught me a lot and i get the courage i need to go for it. My question about drops is, does the technique change when you have more travel on the bike like a trail vs an enduro or Dh? Am asking cause i own both trail and enduro bike? Thanks guys.
The technique would be the same regardless of bike category, however, timing may change due to wheelbase. Have fun and be safe. I am sad about Covid, but happy it brought you to bikes!
"7 years vaster" ahahahahahah. Great job Drew Brothers!
I dig it, keep it up Gents.great job.
Thanks Joey 👊🏻